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  • “Ukraine swine flu ‘burns’ lungs”– source

    Russia Today
    Wednesday, Nov 18th, 2009

    British scientists suspect that swine flu virus has mutated in Ukraine. Some doctors say that flu in the country has shown unprecedented symptoms, creating the effect of “burnt” lungs, the Daily Mail reports.

    Sources said that while British scientists are running their tests of the virus samples from Ukraine, some doctors claim the strain is dangerously mutating.

    These doctors even liken swine flu symptoms in Ukraine with those of the Spanish flu that hit the world in early 20th Century, the Daily Mail reports.

    It has also quoted an unnamed doctor in western Ukraine as saying that lungs of Ukraine swine flu victims look strikingly unusual.

    “We have carried out post mortems on two victims and found their lungs are as black as charcoal. They look like they have been burned. It’s terrifying,” doctor said.

    Meanwhile, according to the World Health Organization, no mutations have been registered in virus samples from Ukraine.

    The organization was quoted by AP as saying that preliminary genetic sequencing in British and American laboratories showed the virus from Ukraine is similar to that used for production of the pandemic flu vaccine.

    The WHO said that the infection rate in Ukraine is quite in line with that in neighboring countries like Russia and Ukraine.

    Meanwhile, versions of an H1N1 virus nature keep multiplying.

    “It should be called a Jurassic Flu – the DNA of a woman who died in 1918 Spanish flu was recovered from her corpse,” said investigative reporter Wayne Madsen to RT.

    “The DNA was used to recreate this virus and some of the individuals, especially of the University of Wisconsin, Madison, are now involved in a process to develop the vaccine for H1N1. I don’t think it takes a detective very much time to figure out what could be a ‘cause and effect’ relationship there,” he added.

    Russia is stepping into the campaign to help Ukraine tackle the virus. Prime Minister Vladimir Putin has signed an order to provide humanitarian aid to the country.

    The Ministry of Health and Social Development allocated about US$800,000 to buy medication for Ukraine which has been delivered to the country by air.

    The Ukrainian Health Ministry has registered some 1.5 million flu and respiratory illnesses since the start of the outbreak.

    22 countries have sent aid to Ukraine following an appeal by President Yushchenko.

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    52 Responses to ““Ukraine swine flu ‘burns’ lungs”– source”

    1. Dave Lichtard Says:

      Professor Victor Bachinsky PhD, a coroner in the Chernivtsi region of Ukraine provides evidence that the devastating illness in Ukraine is parainfluenza mixed with the H1N1 virus, a strong indication that we are dealing with a laboratory developed bio weapon.

      http://www.prisonplanet.com/uk.....eapon.html

      A True Test of Faith Reply:

      You hit the nail on the head brother. This is a planned biological attack. One being perpetrated on first Ukraine and next the world, including the United States of America.

      The aerosol technique being used is USA MO. They are attempting to make the so called swine flu mutation begin in a region similar to the how the spanish flu evolved.

      Sadly these not so intelligent minds arrogantly think nobody is hip to their plan. This is a huge mistake. As people here begin dying the people will unite and turn on this corrupt fascist and treasonous government.

      As I said before the elite has totally underestimated the American insurgency that will rapidly emerge. It will make the ones in Iraq and Afghanistan look like grade school bickering in comparison. In the USA people of all social ranks, age and health will create a force like they have never encountered in the history of mankind. We are a resourceful people.

      The thinning of the herd they want so badly will not just occur within the general population, the responsible elite, the jerks imposing this misery on the American populous will be hunted down and slaughtered like the pigs they are.

      For those of us Christians who do not believe in violence this will be a time that truly tests our faith and trust in God. Do’t allow anger to pull you in. God wants us to not only Love thy neighbor but to Love your enemy as well.

      angel Reply:

      VERY WELL PUT!! It’s nice to read Posts that make sense! God bless!

      Steven Reply:

      Didn’t Joseph Moeshe have evidence of this too before he was ultra violently assaulted and made to disappear?

      WORK.BUY.CONSUME.DIE. Reply:

      sorry, i am not going to “love” someone while they try to kill my kids……..fool

      jerusalem Reply:

      Are you going to love the anti_christ?

      Hangtime55 Reply:

      I read :

      ” . . . It is public knowledge that Dr. Jeffrey Taubenberger’s team at Ft. Detrick painstakingly identified each genetic code on the eight RNA gene strands of the 1918 “killer” virus. Once identified, the next step in “reverse engineering” the 1918 killer virus was to access the U.S. Institute of Pathology’s massive “bank” of LIVE VIRUS SAMPLES to begin the “splicing” of the RNA strands – then placing them in plasmid cells. Taubenberger’s task was completed in 2003, and the deadly 1918 virus was successfully cloned and added to the biological weapon arsenal at Ft. Detrick, Maryland . . . “

    2. The Truth Says:

      Over many years we have all been lied to by our Governments… But not just our Governments but many religous leaders. Many things we have been taught are not even in Scripture and millions have swallowed so many lies by these false prophets. If you are a truth seeker please visit the following web site and take the time to read some of the articles… You will be shocked.

      A new audio will be added to the site soon for you to listen to which will save you reading many of the articles.

      http://www.2besaved.com

      Blessings as you seek truth
      Ben

    3. RJ Says:

      Barack Obama has shares in Baxter

      The President of the United States, Barack Obama has shares in Baxter, the company many say is responsible for the h1n1 swine flu pandemic. Back 2005 Barack Obama bought $50,000 worth of stock in two companies.

      Right after he bought the shares also in 2005 Barack Obama (still a senator at that time) introduced the first comprehensive bill to address the threat of avian influenza pandemic. AVIAN Act (S. 969)

      Then it makes it even more interesting that over $60 million dollars was awarded for a vaccine against the bird flu (2007) that at the time did not mutate till afterwards.

      The guy sure knows his planning, I guess that is change you can believe in. From investor to President.
      http://fto.co.za/news/barack-o.....15772.html

      WORK.BUY.CONSUME.DIE. Reply:

      we can change = thank you satan

      Hack Reply:

      it’s yes we can.

      Play his theme song backwards, the whole song. It sounds like a group of people chanting thank you satan. It’s creepy as hell.

      LetUsSeeMore Reply:

      I looked at that article. I’m waiting for a more in depth work up for that fact to be confirmed.

    4. BeTrueSeekTruth Says:

      I didn’t hear this story on the new so I can’t believe it. I only believe what they say on channel 2 because they are all better than me and smarter than me. I have to agree because I don’t want to be seen as an anti social extremist flat earther conspiracy nut. This would hurt my feelings and make me sad. The people on tv know better than me. I’m just a useless eater who will blindly follow my leaders wherever they go. This is good and just.
      I’m going to drink lots of contaminated Milk and use it wash down the free anti biotics I get.
      I’m going to get all my vaccines twice so people will love me for being a lovable fool. They promised extra morphine for me when I’m ready to die from all the toxins they so lovingly inject in me with love and concern. Its a wonderful life.

      Can'tStandThis!!! Reply:

      What’s all this about contaminated milk?! thats one thing i havent heard about!

      WORK.BUY.CONSUME.DIE. Reply:

      farmers inject herd with antibiotics and hormones. hence, if its not organic, you consume this stuff……….

      jerusalem Reply:

      Is this why raw milk is against the law? I am going out to hunt up a crooked farmer today, who will sell me the kind of milk I was raised on. And I am going to use the cream on top to make myself some butter. I am going to start breaking all of the really rediculous and stupid laws like this one, which make no sense. I have always been such a good girl, never broken the law once, but I feel a lovely ‘’spree” coming on. Would anyone like to join me for some raw milk?

      ela Reply:

      one month in US and i’ve ended up with cancer from organic milk bougth from stores
      thanks america
      my cure took over a year and a misscarriage, the safest way to have a clean body, but not the happiest – and i know other girls who got trough the same ‘calvaria’
      if you want enligthment google rGBH + IGF-1 + tumors

      Dr Killdeer Reply:

      You can’t get cancer in one month, idiot. The cancer has been growing for 5 to 7 years before a tumor even reaches a size where it is detectable through our modern, advanced allopathic quack techniques. I don’t know where you came from, butt don’t blame this one on the good ole’ US of A. We are a great nation where quack doctors like me can reap ridiculous profits using quackery on suckers, I mean patients like U. I am a card carying member of the medical mafia and I will use you, abuse you, and rape you when you come to my office with your preventable illness. I want you as a patient for life. I want to extend your worthless diseased life as far as possible so that I can maximize my profits at your expense. “I am Doctor, Hear me roar, I’m a bigger Doctor than before…..”

      amicus curiae Reply:

      ORGANIC MILK does NOT use rGBH.
      commercial milk does in many places in USA
      ela, you need to get educated, and avoid mainstream doctors!
      see http://www.mercola.com

      amicus curiae Reply:

      see http://www.naturalnews.com
      or
      http://www.mercola.com
      for info on RBgH recominant Bovine growth hormones. creates extra IL2 in milk, causes cows much pain and suffering also.
      Cancer council of america finally had the guts to say it IS harmful/!!

      Monsanto, NO ONES Friend invented it,
      FDA lied about the safety (whats new?) and
      now ELI LILLY bought the patents for the drug, they inject.
      industry (read monbastards again) made labelling milk rGBH free an Offence…cos it may? imply it wasnt good for you..
      yeah and…?
      same as labelling GM soy corn etc,
      IF you knew, you wouldn’t buy it.
      they want you be be ignorant and consume their poisons without knowing.
      you could go to
      http://www.rfidamerica.com
      jerri the site manager is an ORGANIC dairy farmer, you may be near her? or she could refer you maybe?
      she and her husband are some of the few that also screen OUT cows that other organic places keep, that have Bovine Johnes disease. Mercola links it to the Human form Crohnes disease!

      Dr Killdeer Reply:

      Thank you Amicus!!! Thank you for posting accurate information. Poor ela has no understanding of cancer nor of organic milk. I personally don’t drink milk, but use raw and fermented organic dairy products. In order to detect most cancer tumors, the patient must have had the disease many years. even a pinhead sized tumor has been around for a while. rGBH is on it’s own deathbed. Posilac sales are down 50% in hte last year. If we don’t buy it, they won’t be able to manufacture and sell it.

    5. Kilrain Says:

      How many packs of cigs a day are assocaited with these lungs? Eastern Europe is very unhealthy.

      Dr Killdeer Reply:

      So is AmeriKa!! It is the unhealthiest nation on the planet. Where have you been, imbecile? Occasionally, for a brief period, like a year or some crap like that, the Limeys take the number one spot. Butt we always recoup. AmeriKa is second to none!!

    6. Quiz this Says:

      “burnt” lungs, how about scared lungs and from what disease.

    7. Mary Says:

      It’s not, ‘Swine Flu’. It’s TB that has gripped the Ukraine. In the first 13 days of reporting about this supposed, ‘H1N1′ virus out of Mexico, 63,000 people died of TB. The WHO has been covering up the spread of TB worldwide for a while now. Do some research and you’ll see for yourself.

      Dr Killdeer Reply:

      Wrong Mary. Wrong as usual. I am an allopathic doctor and I am always right because I am a modern day God!!! I am greater than God the father, God the son, and the Holy Ghost combined!! And I have more money, material posessions, and hott looking Ho babes than they could ever muster between them. Who cares about the Virgin Mary. I like Ho’s!!! TB does not spread rapidly. This is a “gubsamunts altered” virus that was unleashed upon the unwashed masses so that I could line my pockets with big bucks. I convert them immediately to gold, because I don’t want to hold my wealth in a trash currency from a bankrupt, third or fourth world s---hole like America. “I am Doctor hear me roar, I’m a filthy Doctor like before…..”

      u r a lost sheeple... Reply:

      Revelation 14:9-11 (New International Version)

      A third angel followed them and said in a loud voice: “If anyone worships the beast and his image and receives his mark on the forehead or on the hand, he, too, will drink of the wine of God’s fury, which has been poured full strength into the cup of his wrath. He will be tormented with burning sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and of the Lamb. And the smoke of their torment rises for ever and ever. There is no rest day or night for those who worship the beast and his image, or for anyone who receives the mark of his name.”

      Repent sinner! John 3:16

      Dr Killdeer Reply:

      I’ll repent after I spend this fistfull of illgotten money and finish having hott sex with my “tonight Ho”.

      BelieveIT Reply:

      Are you not a sinner?

      Calohan Reply:

      You are right about the Ukraine Mary. Don’t let anyone tell you different, especially the ignorant herin.

      WHAT REALLY HAPPENED IN THE UKRAINE

      Already and by March 12, 1999, the International Federation of Red Cross and Red Crescent Societies, in response to requests from the National Red Cross Societies of four countries, including and near to the Ukraine, had issued a warning over the up and coming explosion of tuberculosis there in the form of an appeal.

      The Ukraine, for some time, has been an epicenter of TB.

      The Ukraine Ministry of Health had taken several initiatives to address the increasing TB crisis in Ukraine. Pilot project areas have been identified in combination with WHO to test the newer methodologies of which improved laboratory training would be the cornerstone. One pilot DOTS style project, backed by the World Bank and the Canadian charity HOPE, was introduced in Odessa.

      TB was already spreading rapidly in the region in the late 1990‘s. In Russia, over 111,000 cases of TB were reported in 1996 — double the number of cases reported in 1991. Reported cases are at about the same level in Belarus, Moldova and Ukraine.

      Officially, and in March of 2004, some 670,000 Ukrainians were infected with tuberculosis, but the International Red Cross estimates the real figure, was, even at that time, three times higher.
       
      WHO had already taken, In 1993, the unprecedented step of declaring tuberculosis to be a global emergency. In 1998, it estimated that by 2020 nearly one billion more people would be newly infected, 200 million would fall sick, and 70 million would die from TB if control measures were not strengthened. Such measures were never really implemented.
       
      So recently when, recently, in KIEV — Eighty-six people have died in Ukraine from flu and respiratory infections, the health ministry said Wednesday, in an epidemic the World Health Organization said COULD be largely due to the A(H1N1) virus……….the emphasis should definitely be placed on the word “could“.

    8. Nada Says:

      “Burnt Lungs” sounds like some kind on Non-biological they are chem spraying the people with.

    9. Check out Says:

      “Listen to coast to coast am” show 11-16-2009 and htt://blog.kieukraine.info/

    10. jerusalem Says:

      1. Buy and drink raw milk, fresh from the cow to the fridge. mmmm!
      2. Buy rainwater drains, attach to roof, set large barrels underneath to catch rainwater.
      3. Drink Noni Juice instead of buying health insurance
      4. Order all my meds online from Mexican pharmacy.
      5. Take a drive to Juarez, Mexico and stock up on over the counter aniti-biotics.
      6. Stop donating to the police department
      7. Fly two amercan flags on property.
      8 Put up privacy fences both front and back to block vision of snoopy neighbors and cops driving by.
      9. Buy stickon letters and make sign on car door which reads…” COPWATCH”.
      10. Buy huge Bible and keep in the car.
      11. Post a sign on front door reading ” CAUTION! ARMED SECURITY ON PREMISIS”.
      12. Do not buy recording of barking dog to keep your house safe. Buy recording of roaring lion to play.
      13. When receiving ”nosy” phone calls, give a lot of disinformation.
      14. When some fan of Obama mentions Obama, reply with…” WHO”?
      15. When you go out, wear a different disguise every time so that you never appear as one person. This is just in case you are being watched.
      16. Think up ”fun things” to leave laying around your house if you suspect that it is being searched when you are not at home.
      17. Purposely store things on your computer to distract and confuse, if you suspect internet spying is going on. Again, # 16 and 17 is using disinformation.
      18. Think up your own ideas and have fun!

      jerusalem Reply:

      And last, but not least….19. Keep changing your website often!

      wingnut Reply:

      jerusalem, i really have to say, #2 is bad advice. I mean the #2on your list, not the real #2 that we all must do. What with all these chemtrails and did you see them globs of gelatinous goo that fell on a small town in washington state over a period of three months? It had living cells in it. Gross! So, unless you gonna set up a still for your water, I wouldn’t trust nothin that falls from the sky no more.

    11. billy no mates Says:

      http://blogs.healthfreedomalli.....dont-know/

      This is not the S W I N E Flu, this is something new – low flying planes spraying over the 29-31st October in the Ukraine. 1000’s of witnesses – then lots and lots of people getting sick.
      This disease destroys the lungs.
      Though, the death rate does seem to be very very low, if this is the beginning, as some would have it, of the planned genocide of 9/10’s of humanity. Maybe they keep trying in the hope that one one of them will be the planet killer.

      US patents the Pneumonic Plague vaccine by UK Government in August 2009
      http://blogs.healthfreedomalli.....t-britain/

      Mary Reply:

      It’s not, ‘Swine Flu’. It’s TB that has gripped the Ukraine. In the first 13 days of reporting about this supposed, ‘H1N1′ virus out of Mexico, 63,000 people died of TB. The WHO has been covering up the spread of TB worldwide for a while now. Do some research and you’ll see for yourself.

      Hack Reply:

      If I see *any* airplane spraying *anything* it will be shot down with steel core ammunition end of story.

      u r a lost sheeple... Reply:

      Watch for the cross jet streams at dusk. Black ops-Blackwater (search it). Donald Rumsfeld.

      tammiflew Reply:

      Confirmed criss-cross spraying near dusk. Sunday night (15 Nov 2009), 20 miles northwest of Washington, DC. Several large jets left impossibly strange contrails (i.e., chemtrails) — the waviness and breakup resembled sand or particulate, not water vapor. Other jets (flying into Dulles Airport, across the Potomac River in northern Virginia) at the same time and apparently similar altitude, left no chemtrails. Expecting something to happen as a result. Maybe it’s mind-suppressing aluminum + barium again. Maybe H1N1 is mixed. Maybe it’s H2N2 this time. Who knows. We’ll know when they get shot down.

    12. Mary Says:

      Check out the WHO website. According to them, almost 398,000 people died of TB in 2008. They have reported NO statistics for 2009. WHY? Look up the symptoms for TB and in particular what the lungs look like. It’s also been written about in many sources that the, ‘1918 Spanish Flu’ was really Tuberculosis. Thank you.

      Dr Killdeer Reply:

      Mary!! Mary!!! Check out the WHO? website? You need to check out the” Abbra,Abbra, Cadabbra, I want to reach out and grab ya’ ” website!!!

      u r a lost sheeple... Reply:

      Bad source of info-they are EUGENICISTS. Homeopathic medicine rules…

    13. Elvenrunelord Says:

      Actually this article is another example of how information gets distorted through bad reporting.

      Anyone who does research will learn that 90% of the people who have died there died from a viral pneumonia. This viral pneumonia causes the lung’s cells to burst and the lungs themselves to fill with blood.

      The blood and inflammation could cause a burnt lung look, the black charcoal effect is dried blood.

      Mary the reason they have no stats for 2009 yet is there is a time turnaround for stats where they are verified and vetted before releasing to the government and public access-points.

      Lack of 2009 stats in 2009 is not anything I would be worried about until 2011.

    14. Michelle Says:

      I’d be careful drinking raw milk. Didn’t Abraham Lincoln’s mother die from it?

      Dr Killdeer Reply:

      She died from syphilis and clap. In those days the allopathic quacks dosed her with mercury (just like today) because they thought the VD came from milk, not from screwing. Do your homework.

    15. Bill Says:

      We should look on the bright side here…. I bet you can get some great deals on airfare and vacation packages in the Ukraine now!!!!

    16. Mildred Says:

      This is a great success for the pharmaceutical giants because they created the evidence for smoking bans in order to stop everyone from so-called burning their lungs out if at all over the course of 50 to 70 years, by which time they were going to die anyhow from one old age disease or another. Now, with pharmaceuticals having won the anti-smoking war and smoke-bans everywhere, artificial nicotine profits are better than illegal drug trafficking, they can afford to branch out to vaccines and really burn out everyone’s lungs, but all at once, in the matter of days. One more chalk-up for the NWO thanks to pharmaceuticals and the power they gained when they created the artificial nicotine market for themselves.

    17. ThomasT Says:

      Just as the two viruses were designed to do, once both were injected or inhaled from chemtrails or sprays.

      see and hear it here http://www.abovetopsecret.com/.....516417/pg1

    18. ThomasT Says:

      Ela…Your organic milk may well been pasteurised, if so, good bacteria was absent, bad not, phosphotase, the enzyme necessary to absorb calcium 90% destroyed, and many proteins damaged. Milk? Raw cow milk, or better, raw goat or sheep milk. Cancer. Get H R Clark PhD NDs latest 669 page work, The Cure and Prevention of All Cancers. Here the 40-year ex-Canadian Govt. cell research biologist used resonance comparison, (for allergenic plant phenols, parasites, bacteria, virus, heavy metals dyes etc,); medical blood tests and a sensitive Geiger counter, (for polonium from in- house radon gas, amalgams, chlorox bleach etc.), to positively identify the causes and pathways of all cancers. The gatekeepers and oncologists scream fraud, false hope, conspiracy theory, junk science, folklore, whenever scientific works are necessarily privately published. The Medical Journals (now exposed as corrupted), that these gatekeepers control, would never allow such natural cures, that are affordable, quick and easy for the layperson to follow, be published.

    19. Tommy Says:

      Great post very interesting.

      http://www.hotelgened.it

    20. Calohan Says:

      My vote goes for Mary’s take on the Ukraine.

      WHAT REALLY HAPPENED IN THE UKRAINE

      Already and by March 12, 1999, the International Federation of Red Cross and Red Crescent Societies, in response to requests from the National Red Cross Societies of four countries, including and near to the Ukraine, had issued a warning over the up and coming explosion of tuberculosis there in the form of an appeal.

      The Ukraine, for some time, has been an epicenter of TB.

      The Ukraine Ministry of Health had taken several initiatives to address the increasing TB crisis in Ukraine. Pilot project areas have been identified in combination with WHO to test the newer methodologies of which improved laboratory training would be the cornerstone. One pilot DOTS style project, backed by the World Bank and the Canadian charity HOPE, was introduced in Odessa.

      TB was already spreading rapidly in the region in the late 1990‘s. In Russia, over 111,000 cases of TB were reported in 1996 — double the number of cases reported in 1991. Reported cases are at about the same level in Belarus, Moldova and Ukraine.

      Officially, and in March of 2004, some 670,000 Ukrainians were infected with tuberculosis, but the International Red Cross estimates the real figure, was, even at that time, three times higher.
       
      WHO had already taken, In 1993, the unprecedented step of declaring tuberculosis to be a global emergency. In 1998, it estimated that by 2020 nearly one billion more people would be newly infected, 200 million would fall sick, and 70 million would die from TB if control measures were not strengthened. Such measures were never really implemented.
       
      So recently when, recently, in KIEV — Eighty-six people have died in Ukraine from flu and respiratory infections, the health ministry said Wednesday, in an epidemic the World Health Organization said COULD be largely due to the A(H1N1) virus……….the emphasis should definitely be placed on the word “could“.