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  • £1,000 penalties for out-of-date ID details

    Alan Travis,
    London Guardian
    Saturday, Nov 22, 2008

    People who fail to tell the authorities of a change of address or amend other key personal details within three months will face civil penalty fines of up to £1,000 a time when the national identity card scheme is up and running, according to draft Home Office regulations published yesterday.

    The Home Office made clear that repeated failures to keep an entry on the national identity register up to date could ultimately be enforced by bailiffs being sent round to seize property.

    But yesterday’s detailed regulations to implement the national identity card scheme make clear that they intend to avoid the creation of ID card “martyrs”, by levying no penalty on those who refuse to register for the national identity card database in the first place.

    The Liberal Democrat peer, Lady Williams, is amongst ID card “refuseniks” who have said they are prepared to go to jail rather than sign up for the scheme.

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    But the regulations show that the main sanction they are likely to face is being barred from leaving the country when it is time to renew their passport.

    The regulations confirm ministers’ intention to make passports a “designated document” which means anyone applying or renewing their passport will be automatically issued with an ID card at the same time. Ministers claim that this does not amount to compulsion but ID card critics disagree.

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    10 Responses to “£1,000 penalties for out-of-date ID details”

    1. Little Jonny No Brain. Says:

      I got my Old style Passport renewed couple yrs back. Even US must recognise it despite not being Machine Readable or Bio-metric passport. So, does that mean I won’t be automatically issued with an ID card for …. let’s see … another 8 years?

    2. expatbrit Says:

      So not quite a voluntary thing! This ID card is a prison without walls. The usefull idiots forcing this through are merely Trustees!

    3. Become a Sovereign Says:

      Don’t cooperate with the evil state! Who owns you?

    4. Maggies Army Says:

      The people of the U.K. successfully overturned the poll tax (Community Charge) by way of civil disobedience by simply refusing to pay. My wages were arrested and it cost me an aditional 10% penalty. Such did not affect my credit rating as non-payment was widespread and considered political. By the time they collected it, I probably would have earned the 10% surcharge had I banked the charge as savings anyway.

      For those not in the know this was a blanket property tax: Whether you lived in an apartment or a mansion you were expected to pay the same. A tax clearly aimed at benefiting the rich.

      This is far more important. Remember the U.K. government’s anti drugs campaign slogan?

      It’s time to use it again: “JUST SAY NO!”

      As for being able to trust the government with such information it’s simple. They can’t be, having lost the entire Child Benefit database, which was but one of many failures by them to protect our personal data.

    5. Juice-Man-78 Says:

      Put ID or Passport in the microwave for 5 sec to fry the chip.

    6. AndreaL Says:

      Anybody who accepts this ID card, biometric tyranny bullshite deserves to be fined if you ask me.

    7. Free-man Says:

      They can stick their Id cards up their ####!!!! I like the microwave idea!! But if you must have an Id card to get a passport, then take their Id card, get your passport, then lose the Id card. Report it missing or stolen, then they will issue a new one!! Then report it stolen or missing, then they will issue a new one!! then report it stolen or missing………….on and on and on!!!! If everyone does this permanently, the shamefull disgracefull issuing office will grind to a halt!!! 322 WE KNOW ABOUT YOU!!!

    8. www.tpuc.org Says:

      http://www.no2id.net and http://www.tpuc.org the latter site is a must for UK people

    9. wildcat Says:

      Thanks Maggies Army for that memory. I remember the Poll Tax all too well – students who shared an apartment (with nobody working part-time jobs) would be exempt from the Poll Tax. A student who stayed at home with working parents would be required to pay the Poll Tax but at a reduced rate. A large family with everyone on minimum wage jobs living in a small house would end up paying considerably far more than a company CEO living alone in a large mansion.

      The Poll Tax was killed off in the end, by the inability to track a constantly moving student population – there are something like 1 million+ students constantly changing accommodation every three months (if not more frequently during the first term). Then in somewhere corporate like London, rents are priced on a weekly basis – people move around that quickly – temp’s, secretaries, PA’s, shorthand writers, typists, all move around as their jobs change.

      The ID Card scheme plans to charge people 80 pounds every time they change address. It will either have to be made simple enough to update online with term-time and home addresses (as with students), otherwise it will just become out of date very rapidly.

    10. Smartcard engineer Says:

      Please, can you PM me and tell me few more things about this?.


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