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A Non-Assisted Building Collapse
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Sunday, June 28, 2009
I wonder why there is no neat little pile of rubble and a bunch of dust….. hmmmmm
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2009-06/27/content_8330067.htm
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June 28th, 2009 at 6:44 am
This is a conspiracy theory it didn’t really happen. The building didn’t fall. You can’t trust the Chinese, they lie.
Reconmarine Reply:
June 28th, 2009 at 11:31 am
1st, LRRP You know NOTHING about China, its culture or current status.
2nd, the reason there isn’t a hot pile on fire under the rubble is because the building didn’t have raging infernos in it and/or multiple fuel tanks inside that added to the fires.
It also wasn’t hit by airplane of a falling sky scraper.
Other then those small points, yeah, it’s totally crazy…
jerry Reply:
June 28th, 2009 at 11:47 am
Your so naive its pathetic, steal framed buildings cant fall straight down into themselves at free fall speed without explosives, how ridiculous your argument is. The media and government has done a great job on you.
michael Reply:
June 28th, 2009 at 11:52 am
the wtc towers did not collapse at free-fall speed. stop lying.
Steve Williams Reply:
June 28th, 2009 at 12:37 pm
They fell at near free fall speed. The difference was small. So stop lying, yourself.
Science is NOT a democracy. You can NOT replace the laws of physics with personal opinions. Scientifically, and by the laws of physics, all three buildings could NOT fallen as they did unless they were assisted by explosive devices. Several times more energy was released than what could be accounted for than by just the kinetic energy that was given by gravity. That extra energy had to come from somewhere. And no, it wasn’t magically beamed in through a hyper-dimensional wormhole from planet Poptart. Some human agent had to provide the extra energy. I’m still betting it was by Mossad demo experts. That explanation has a far greater probability than any other considering that Silverstein had close ties with Israel. Or, at least it was done by someone who had access to nano thermate. Examine the records of who was manufacturing nano thermate for a few months before 9-11, track down as to where the shipments went and how they were used. The culprit(s) should then be exposed. Was Israel manufacturing nano thermate? Were shipments of nano thermate sent to Israel from elsewhere?
So stick that in your Megaphone and blow it out your ***.
9/11 was treason Reply:
June 28th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
Reconmarine, it was not a “hot pile” on fire under the rubble of the WTC towers. To start with you can’t “pile” liquid. The Trade Center buildings had “pools” of molten steel under the rubble. Jet fuel would have to be injected with large amounts of oxygen into a blast furnace in a highly controlled environment to come close to attaining temperatures which could melt steel. Anyone with only marginal intelligence understands this. It is a good thing that most of our marines aren’t as mentally challenged as you seem to be. My suggestion is that you enroll yourself in a physical science course at your local junior college. If you can’t get into a class, I suggest getting your ass down to your nearest Barnes and Noble and pick up a book on the subject. The laws of physics are not yours to twist and alter at will.
It is an insult to all of the “true” Americans on this site to have the government assign an idiot to these comment sections who can’t even create a slightly believable argument in the government’s defense. Of course since you are trying to support an outright lie, it is understandable that you would have great difficulty in formulating any sensible arguments. Your words are void of logic and the structure of your arguments are filled with logical fallacies. How do you wake up each day and feel any pride in what you do?
How does it feel to be a traitor to your country? Do they pay you well? What have they promised you in exchange for spreading this misinformation? Are you not smart enough to realize that you are being used and they will betray you once you are no longer needed? Do you actually believe the crap you say, because if you do, that would explain your foolish decision to work for the devils of the NWO. Whoever it is who is behind your treasonous words is a disgusting person. Someday you will realize that all along you have been helping the wrong side and the damage you have already done may exceed that which you can reverse before meeting your own fate and coming face to face with your Creator who will judge you on your words. On that day, you will not have the NWO supporting you. You will be on your own and anything which you hid behind on this earth will be stripped away. Even the demons who now influence your words will have fled your soul in the presence of the Lord. All of the motivating factors to which you now see as beneficial in your own life will mean nothing on the Day of Judgment. I will pray that your eyes are opened before this day comes.
jereome Reply:
June 28th, 2009 at 2:49 pm
Wrong Jetfuel cant even come close to melting steel under ANY circumstances, because if that was the case then the damn planes would be dropping out of the sky right and left due to the fact that the Jet fuel would be melting their engine components.
9/11 was treason Reply:
June 28th, 2009 at 3:38 pm
jereome – You are right. Perhaps I didn’t clarify that jet fuel could not have been responsible for melting the steel. Just the same, whenever pure oxygen is injected into a combustion process, much higher temperature can be obtained. Jet engines on aircraft are not injected with pure oxygen. My point was that an actual “blast furnace” would need to be present to create the extreme temperatures responsible for melting steel into pools OR thermite\thermate.
LRRP 1968 Reply:
June 28th, 2009 at 5:49 pm
Yeah My Chinese wife tells me the same thing.
I’ll remember that on my next trip.
How’s your Mandarin by the way? Mine’s fluent
Misha Reply:
June 29th, 2009 at 1:28 am
每个国家都说谎了只不是中国.
DUDE Reply:
June 28th, 2009 at 7:53 pm
BUT YOU are an expert on Chinese cultures? What a piece of s--- you are!
USMC Grunt Reply:
June 29th, 2009 at 7:29 am
For everyone still hiding in the cave ……COUGH COUGH ….RECONMARINE….come into the light….ur brainwashed ur the slaves in this cave ….u don’t even know what reality is
Plato – The Allegory of the Cave
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQfRdl3GTw4
you fool Reply:
June 29th, 2009 at 7:49 am
What do you know about China? You say that the Chinese elites would “tell on” the AMerican and Israeli elites that pulled off 9/11. That shows what you know with your grade school logic. f---ing idiot.
Former US Marine Reply:
June 29th, 2009 at 7:50 am
The fake “reconmarine” shows hs stupidity every time he opens that hole in his face.
1. The so-called raging fires were located way the hell up on the 90th floor and fire burns up not down you idiot. The bottom 90% of the building was as strong as the day it was built, UNTIL demolition charges went off.
2. Furthermore, per the NIST report, all the jet fuel burned up within 10 minutes, with 40% burned up in the initial fireball located OUTSIDE the buildings. By the way idiot, jet fuel burns no hotter than normal fires.
3. Also per the NIST report, the fires within the buildings had almost burned completely out; prior to the demolition charges going off. That is why you have thick BLACK smoke you idiot because the fires were out of both Oxygen and FUEL.
4. According to the NIST report, the plane impact damaged 15% of the INTERIOR steel columns on only (4) upper floors, the INTERIOR steel columns above and below these (4) upper floors were 100% intact.
5. According to the NIST report, the OUTER steel columns were only partially damaged on ONE side of the building on (4) upper floors. NO damage was done to the other (3) sides of the building.
6.Furthermore, the buildings EASILY withstood the single plane impacts, only swaying for an instant at 25% of what they were designed to handle and then standing tall as they always had. This is NOTHING like the constant winds of a storm slamming into every side of the whole building for days on end. A tiny 30 foot in diameter plane strike on a few Upper Floors is NOTHING like Hurricane force winds slamming into the whole building from every side constantly hour after hour. The pathetic Plane strike only lasted 1 second and only impacted (4) Upper floors on one side of the building.
5. Basic High School Physics shows that even if you were to cut away 100% of the OUTER and INNER columns on those few upper floors, the top of the building COULD NOT fall straight down through the lower and stronger 90% of the building at freefall speed. Why? Because the strong lower building ALWAYS held up the MINOR weight of the top, there is no change in weight to strength ability of the lower building to hold up the top no matter what kind of damage is done to the top.
Example for traitorous NeoCons and Zionists
A. Hold (2) 10lb bags of bulls---; (1) bag of s--- over empty air and (1) bag of bulls--- over a NeoCon/Zionist’s head
B. Drop both bags of bulls--- repeatedly, until the bag of bulls--- falls straight through the NeoCon/Zionist skeletal structure and muscles to hit the ground at freefall speed or the same speed as the bag of bulls--- dropped through empty air. One may also light the bags of bulls--- on fire along with the NeoCon/Zionist head before dropping the bag of bulls--- if one desires. Makes no difference.
*Bone and Muscle are NOT stronger than steel. The top floors of WTC weighed proportionally the same as the 10lb bag of bulls--- dropped onto a 200lb NeoCon/Zionist traitorous head.
The Zionist Occupied Governments Conspiracy Theory to blame Arabs is 100% stinking BULLs---(just like the bulls--- Holocaust HOAX used to blame Germans yet never allowed to be investigated or one is JAILED or condemned in the JEW mass media). Jews did 9/11 and more and more people are waking up to this fact. Can you say History repeats?? These parasites have never cared about any nation throughout history, only about themseles and their parasitic culture that sucks the blood, culture and money from any nation they invade. They want a one world Marxist Government in which they control the money and direct all human knowledge/behaviors through their Mass Media Propaganda.
I cant wait for the show to begin, whether it be 1 year or 10 years. You traitorous parasites will be hanging from every street corner on Earth. For your culture only knows the qualities of lies, dis-information, propaganda, racism, national traitors and just plain old moral degeneration. I always thought the word parasite was a harsh term but now I know it fits like a glove. If I can go from being completely brainwashed as a child by your Jew Mass Media of lies and propaganda to seeing the truth so easily and clearly, then millions of Americans and billions of humans around the World can as well.
Chris Reply:
June 29th, 2009 at 11:10 am
RECONMARY HERE ARE SOME FACTS FOR YOU TO DEBUNK IF YOU CAN.
1. There were NO raging infernos in WTC 1, or 2 or 7 at anytime. After the initial explosion the smoke from the fires became black, indicating low temp oxygen starved fires. Photographs show victims calling for help in the gaping holes where the planes hit, so how come they were not engulfied by raging fires not to mention the melting steel all around them in those floors?
2. On reaching the floors of the first plane impact firemen reported on their radios small pockets of fire which could be put out by just two lines. Sounds like a raging inferno doesnt it. They were experienced firemen up there dude!
3. 4 inch thick certified construction steel beams can not melt at normal fire temps and any heat will be transferred along the connecting beams in heat transfer dynamics, so in fact, the heat of any temp would spread and further reduce the chances of buckling or melting. It just will not happen in a grid like structure.
4. In the photo and video records the 2nd plane hit explosion on the Sth tower clearly demonstrates that the plane hit the tower at an angle, 80% of the fuel exploded outward into the atmosphere thereby again reducing any chance of a raging inferno as you say. If they plane hit at an angle and lost 80% of its fuel then how come RECONMARY, it was the first tower to fall? It was burning for a shorter period than the other tower?
Please explain MARY….we are all dying to see your scientific notes in crayon.
Artyom Reply:
June 28th, 2009 at 1:51 pm
I really don’t see how this building teetering over onto its side brings useful information to 9-11. It is a totally different building construction and it seems as the earth beneath the building let loose the foundation and main supports. Must have been a careless project by the engineer. He will be in serious trouble if any criminal behavior was detected because any type of corruption that could kill someone as a result usually has extreme penalties. As for these type buildings. The walls outside and inside are usually made of concrete with metal reenforcements. Also compare 11 to 13 floor buildings there with Trade Center 1 and 2 and the distance from top to bottom is much more great. Regardless of what happened September 11th if you drop a slab of this type reenforced concrete on muddy ground from about a 12th floor level.. You’ll get what you see above. Drop from atop of the Trade Center and you can say good bye to the concrete. However, all of it? I don’t know. I am not an engineer.
9/11 was treason Reply:
June 28th, 2009 at 4:25 pm
Check out this failed demolition. Even though several floors in the bottom of the building were taken out by the demolition charges, the sheer strength of the steel structure is demonstrated when the entire top half of the building came to rest, intact, now just a shorter version of the building it once was. Perhaps the charges placed in the upper portions of the building failed to detonate. Even “IF” the top of the WTC towers toppled due to compromised structural integrity resulting from the impact of the planes, I think that if that did result in the tops collapsing, anything below that point would have remained standing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....eature=fvw
heraclitus Reply:
June 29th, 2009 at 8:57 am
Wow…
That’s a much better example than the collapse sited in the article.
Thanks.
June 28th, 2009 at 8:08 am
dam i followed the link above(911 bloger) their was a vid on their about the meat industry if you eat meat watch it
http://www.chooseveg.com/animal-cruelty.asp
sorry bit off topic but watch it
as for the tower block
if a plane brought the un buildings wouldnt it have colapsed sideways at the point the plane hit?
i think so!!
also with building 7 and an explosion it did happen if u watch 911 in plane site u see both towers still in place and then a cloud of dust going up 60 stories? i never hear anyone mention this not sure why im gonna try and find it on you tube and il post a link
used to be proud brit Reply:
June 28th, 2009 at 8:11 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whiXO2T4whk
was this building 7 getting blown up?
Steve Williams Reply:
June 28th, 2009 at 1:10 pm
Thanks for the link. Am downloading the full directors cut from google video right this very moment.
June 28th, 2009 at 8:26 am
was this building hit by a plane? did it have raging fires on multiple floors? did it have weakened steel that eventually failed?
was it built with a typical web design of steel or like the wtc towers or wtc 7?
you guys are hopeless. this is why 9-11 truth has failed.
used to be proud brit Reply:
June 28th, 2009 at 8:47 am
i wastnt really compairing this to 911
and i dont think 911 truth has failed i dont know anybody that thinks it wasnt an inside job
i am a builder and ive seen buildings blown up and i saw 3 buildings blown up that day
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whiXO2T4whk
what is that?
this is positive evidence of a bomb thats fact
did the plane do that no
and if the plane hit was what droped them why didnt it buckle at the point of impact and the top fall that way? (twice)
how come the side the plane didnt hit failed the same time?(twice)
Reconmarine Reply:
June 28th, 2009 at 11:33 am
Let me guess, NONE of you have ever set off demo…
If you had, you would know it is extremely loud and would have been herd and seen for miles away………………..But it wasn’t..
Or did they use a new top secret quiet demo?
used to be proud brit Reply:
June 28th, 2009 at 12:52 pm
did u watch the vid above?
that was a blast that caused that dust cloud both buildings was still in place look for yourself
you cant hear a blast cos there`s no sound on the vid pmsl
but if you wanna hear a blast
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....re=related
what was that a fart
next ur b sayin a plan hit the pentagon
wake up bro
MagnusXO Reply:
June 28th, 2009 at 1:33 pm
Hundreds of people are on record, some watchable right now on You-Tube, speaking of Demoilitions sounding off continuously prior to collapses. Again Recon, how easily your assertions are dismissed.
Steve Williams Reply:
June 28th, 2009 at 1:42 pm
(sigh…)
Regarding the pools of molten metal found underneath the rubble…
The office fires or the burning of the jet fuel were nowhere near hot enough to turn iron or steel molten. Not by a long, long shot. A very long shot.
The kinetic energy provided by gravity was nowhere near enough to turn iron or steel molten. Not by a long, long shot. A very long shot.
The only possible scientific explanation as to why there were pools of molten metal is because metal cutting charges were used as only metal cutting charges would have the ability to turn iron and steel molten.
I’ve just been viewing the reactions of the the rubble clearers and their total surprise at finding pools of molten metal. They were completely flabbergasted.
justanotherkook Reply:
June 28th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
and you have set off demo? I doubt it by your comments. there are plenty of witnesses including NYFD stating ON CAMERA that they heard explosions. your statements are null and have no basis in reality. and you claim to be a marine? what a laugh, a deep belly laugh straight from my soul. go back to your commander and tell him what a failure you are before he notices it for himself.
DUDE Reply:
June 28th, 2009 at 7:54 pm
DID you not hear all the explosions you piece of s---?
jeff Reply:
June 28th, 2009 at 10:22 pm
Who is this twit reconmarine and why isn’t his dumba ss over in someone elses country blowin sh it up.Iv’e seen your posts the last couple days and you are a true patriot moron.Callin people whores and s hit.You sound like a real time lame suck off the gov.Why dont you go post on cnn you chump.
you fool Reply:
June 29th, 2009 at 7:50 am
I guess you missed the testimony of hundreds. Moron.
Dr. Xb0x Reply:
June 29th, 2009 at 9:26 am
My friend’s only alternative guess for the pools of molten metal is, The Shear Friction of all those surfaces rubbing against each other as the building collapsed. Perhaps the friction of the plane ripping through the tower weakened the tower enough to collapse.
Not trying to start a fight just pointing out an alternative theory, that may make sense. There are still to many things that make 9/11 suspicious and the victems deserve an independent investigation.
michael Reply:
June 28th, 2009 at 11:55 am
the 2nd wtc tower to be hit did indeed buckle at the point of impact and did indeed begin to fall towards the point of impact. i did not major in engineering and even I understand that impossibility of the building lifting up on one side and toppling over towards the side of the impact. damn you are dumb.
Reconmarine Reply:
June 28th, 2009 at 12:10 pm
“i did not major in engineering ”
No s---?
But you are still qualified to tell building collapse forensic experts they are wrong?
I know you didn’t got to college but do you see how f---ing stupid you sound?
MagnusXO Reply:
June 28th, 2009 at 1:51 pm
O.K. Recon, you want to talk about experts? Here are some for everyone:
http://stj911.org/
This is Scholars for 911 Truth and Justice. The “Experts”, and they know more than Recon.
http://pilotsfor911truth.org/
This is Pilots for 911 Truth. These guys know all about planes, probably more than Recon does.
http://patriotsquestion911.com/
And this is Patriots for 911 truth, the Grandaddy of them all, where over 2000 “Experts” have put their professional names on the line to question the offical story of 911.
The truth is there, and shills like Recon are all these guys left to keep it from coming out. Looks like they’re outmatched! Remember this:
-”First they laugh at you, then they fight you, and then you win.” Right now, they are fighting. The part where TRUTH WINS comes next! All of this vigilant research is leading us up to it.
If they really had Power over us, they wouldn’t have to lie.
justanotherkook Reply:
June 28th, 2009 at 1:54 pm
recon- you are the one one who sounds stupid and apparantly is stupid. ever been to ae911truth.com? I didn’t think so. I guess Isaac Newton was wrong too? oh, but only on that one day, right? Study the Law of Falling Bodies for more info. ANYONE who says that it was a simple collapse is lying or deluded.
LRRP 1968 Reply:
June 28th, 2009 at 8:51 am
Let me guess, you are a graduate of a government school, right?
used to be proud brit Reply:
June 28th, 2009 at 9:01 am
yeh mum and dad didnt have the funds to give me a good education thats why my spelling so bad lol
LRRP 1968 Reply:
June 28th, 2009 at 9:20 am
Not you, I meant Micheal
tyler Reply:
June 28th, 2009 at 9:07 am
Actually, no plane hit the WTC7 tower.
Go back to your hole.
used to be proud brit Reply:
June 28th, 2009 at 9:12 am
you nutter can you read i said a bomb
dam i thought i was badly educated lol
Not so fast Reply:
June 28th, 2009 at 10:39 am
So I guess we should ignore these facts from 1989 when trying to understand the WTC7 collapse
”We built in enough redundancy to allow entire portions of floors to be removed without affecting the building’s structural integrity, on the assumption that someone might need double-height floors,” said Larry Silverstein, president of the company. ”Sure enough, Salomon had that need.
MORE than 375 tons of steel – requiring 12 miles of welding – will be installed to reinforce floors for Salomon’s extra equipment.
Source of the about information:
http://www.nytimes.com/1989/02.....wanted=all
Dr. Xb0x Reply:
June 29th, 2009 at 9:32 am
Think back to SCI-FI movies of the past. A lot of them featured self destruct mechanisms built into the star ship/base/ whatever. Could the WTC buildings been wired when they where built to have a self destruct mechanism in case they every needed to tear the buildings down? Perhaps the plain crash accidentally set off the Self Destruct Mechanism?
Just a Guess. Of course if this was true it was be easy for them to get on TV and discuss how there was a failure in the mechanism.
don’t jump all over me, I’m just thinking of alternative explanations.
Dr. Xb0x Reply:
June 29th, 2009 at 9:36 am
If one building had fallen do to this I might agree with you.
Yet 3 buildings collapsed. If you flip a coin three times there’s a good bet you wont get tails each time. Hence I cannot agree with your expert opinion.
Dr. Xb0x Reply:
June 29th, 2009 at 9:38 am
ok throw two 50 cent pieces and a nickel in the air. I bet you wont get all tails.
That is a better wtc1-2-7 analogy.
June 28th, 2009 at 9:59 am
Here are controlled demolitions of steel structured buildings:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIBQZKKITls
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z28qQxeBL88
used to be proud brit Reply:
June 28th, 2009 at 10:08 am
heres one i watched from the park it failed only about 7 floors went down and stood up leaning about 70 degrees
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yo5A3O-Wh78
used to be proud brit Reply:
June 28th, 2009 at 10:30 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....onse_watch
this is prob the best vid of wtc 7 there is note u can see the the stucture clearly blown out on every floor
p.s i forgot to mention the failed demo was not steel stucture it was pre fab and bolted together
June 28th, 2009 at 11:56 am
9-11 truth has lost. 8 years and still no new investigation, still no criminal trials, and still no revolution. you guys are lame.
Steve Williams Reply:
June 28th, 2009 at 12:56 pm
No investigation? Bwahahahaha! It’s been investigated and investigated and investigated, and very scientifically. And the investigations yield the result that something is very, very, very wrong. Extremely wrong. That the official government explanations don’t come anywhere near the truth.
Bwahahahaha! The lies that blatantly go on and on despite the fact the truth is right there, just as obvious as can be. I’ve never understood pathological lying. The truth is right there, yet the lies get told anyway despite the fact that they’re obviously total lies. Ok, I’m clueless as to why this goes on. Please explain to me the underlying mental mechanisms that cause this to happen. I admit I have a certain morbid fascination about those who exhibit mental illnesses. It’s sort of like watching a train wreck in action. It’s too horrible to watch, but you watch anyway.
And yes, I’m playing the mental illness card. Because justifying and legitimizing and/or doing murder is mental illness in totality. Murder is absolutely forbidden to all. Period.
michael Reply:
June 28th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
“And yes, I’m playing the mental illness card.”
dude, you can say that again.
Steve Williams Reply:
June 28th, 2009 at 2:49 pm
I’m sorry. You lost me on as to why murder isn’t a form of mental illness. A very repulsive and revolting one.
9/11 was treason Reply:
June 28th, 2009 at 2:30 pm
Go tell your mama you want your mouth washed out with soap because s--- keeps falling out of it and even the people across the Internet can smell your horrid breath. Asshole!
June 28th, 2009 at 2:19 pm
If you follow the link or do your own searching, you will find that this building was built near a body of water and cracks in the “flood-prevention” wall had appeared on Friday. The most logical deduction is that the foundation of this structure was compromised by water which eroded the earth at the base of the building.
Steve Williams Reply:
June 28th, 2009 at 2:52 pm
Personally, I’m going with the “thermal expansion” hocus-pocus explanation.
Just gotta beware of those thermal expansions, ya kno-o-o-www… They’ll getcha everytime!
DUDE Reply:
June 28th, 2009 at 7:55 pm
Like your brain was eroded.
June 28th, 2009 at 3:02 pm
Did the Chi-Coms forget to pour a foundation on this one? Concrete costs money don’t cha know.
June 28th, 2009 at 3:35 pm
Stop feeding the troll.
June 29th, 2009 at 6:13 am
Please learn the difference between the words “then” and “than” they are not Interchangeable. correct use example: If you are going to the store then I will go with you. I would rather eat soup than anything else. I hope all you can grasp the complex difference between these two words.
used to be proud brit Reply:
June 30th, 2009 at 9:22 am
so take the dictionary and stick it up your ***
like anyone gives a ****
who`s the fool the fool or the fool that points at the fool
man their is so much to talk about on here and thats ur inteligent input lol so what if the spellings wrong?
you idot pete
June 29th, 2009 at 8:51 am
ooh! let’s connect everything building related to 9/11. Has the 9/11 blogger dumbass who wrote this articel done any research into lame Chinese buildinbg codes?
nm Reply:
June 30th, 2009 at 5:05 am
waaaahhh! poor little tool. keep crying bitch.