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About this BBC “hit piece” story about WTC 7… THERE IS A HUGE CONTRADICTION HERE!
Sam Cubero
Infowars
Wednesday, July 9, 2008
There are BIG mistakes everywhere in this story. Probably the biggest mistake
is the way the documentary argued that the NYFD firefighters could not fight the fires in
the burning WTC 7 because the collapse of the Twin Towers damaged water lines,
and the documentary even stated that THERE WAS NO WATER to put out the WTC 7
fires!!!
But then they argued that Larry Silverstein’s comment: ‘ They decided to pull it ‘ was
referring to ‘pulling out firefighting operations’…. but there were no firefighting operations
going on in WTC 7, because they previously said that THERE WAS NO WATER !!!
Even the firefighters said that they were not allowed to enter WTC 7 …
They cannot have it both ways… was there a firefighting operation in WTC 7, or not,
because they said there was no water, since the water lines were supposedly damaged.
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Please add this to the big list of mistakes in that BBC hit piece… it’s unbelievable how
dumb these 9/11 official liars are.
Notice how they also conveniently omitted the undeniable evidence of molten metal found
in the basements of all 3 WTC buildings…
Please show all your viewers and readers these facts:
Watch these videos first, and try to explain how 233 C (451 F) temperature flames can cause steel to melt, knowing that the melting temperature of steel is 1532 C (2790 F).
What could cause steel to melt below it’s melting temperature? Do you notice your frying pan, steel spatula, or even your car or lawnmower petrol engine falling apart or melting when exposed to air fire and internal combustions?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_jiCyMkrRM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JithuVAIb7Y
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Nr1eK0sAsY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrUosvSNLCk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cx33GuVsUtE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qa7PN-8T2VY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Yx9NRX37SM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rgyq2H7PpO0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSeaZLYViwU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZ9BofDUXv0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwSc7NPn8Ok
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caCX4dEqD9E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0eC3uns3pA
As you know, open air fires are not hot enough to melt steel.
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July 9th, 2008 at 9:12 am
If someone has any actual proof – one piece of scientifically proven piece of evidence – they have not to date produced anything. Theories that have more holes than Swiss cheese being proffered by weak minds – there is more physical artefacts to prove Jesus was god or that UFOs are landing i.e. ZERO!
Get jobs people – Pray that we can defeat the evil of terror like we are destroying drugs!
July 9th, 2008 at 9:36 am
lokis, surely you are joking right? the “War On Drugs” has been a massive failure and waste of money. the CIA controls the drug trade in much of the world and 9/11 being perpetrated by elements of our government and “ally” governments/intelligence agencies has NOTHING to do with UFO’s or Jesus. Typical tactic though, dont face the facts, just ridicule and deflect. Surprised you didnt mention Elvis and Bigfoot actually ya gullible caveman……(the “evil” of terror is more complex than idiots like yourself would ever want to believe. sadly the world and terrorism in general are not as simple as your mind…..)
July 9th, 2008 at 9:37 am
There is proof lokis. Dr. Stephen Jones tested samples from the WTC sight and found the chemical signature for thermate. There’s proof in the fact that there was molten metal under all three buildings along with tempartures that were way hotter than any building fire could have gotten. There would be a lot more “proof” if the evidence had not been shipped off to china and recycled as quickly as it was.
Bill Manning, editor of the 125-year-old Fire Engineering Magazine, wrote in an article condemning the clean up operation: Did they throw away the locked doors from the Triangle Shirtwaist fire? Did they throw away the gas can used at the happy land social club fire? … That’s what they’re doing at the World Trade Center. The destruction and removal of evidence must stop immediately.
Dr. Frederick W. Mowrer, an associate professor in the Fire Protection Engineering Department at the University of Maryland, was quoted in the New York Times as saying: I find the speed with which potentially important evidence has been removed and recycled to be appalling.
Officials running the “cleanup operation” took pains to make sure the structural steel didn’t end up anywhere but in blast furnaces. They installed GPS locator devices on each of the trucks hauling loads from Ground Zero at a cost of $1000 each. One driver who took an extended lunch break was dismissed.
That’s why there’s not more physical evidence. But there is plenty of proof. You can find it in people’s actions that day, in the physics of the collapses, in the rescue workers own testimony, in the cover-ups that have happened after the fact, you just have to open your eyes and look.
PS – Are we really destroying drugs, lokis? We’re not doing a very good job destroying the heroin coming in from Afghanistan, or the cocaine from South America. Where are you getting your news?
July 9th, 2008 at 10:34 am
Do the BBC really have to make amends for that footage of their little boo-boo on 9-11 when announcing the fall of the WTC7 while it was still standing in the background?
July 9th, 2008 at 10:39 am
I liked the excuse that the lost tapes (precipitively reporting that the tower collapse), we just misplaced. They we filed away in the 2002 archive!
That is quite an amazing mistake to make, but might have been possible if they had filed them in the 2000 archive (or earlier)… Except someone must have booked out the tape a year AFTER it was original filed, as it is unlikely the librarian would have put it back on an empty shelf labelled up a year in advanced (2002)!
July 9th, 2008 at 11:05 am
“watch these videos first, and try to explain blah blah blah …can melt steel.”
You forgot the part about making sure that you are qualified to know what the hell you are talking about.
July 9th, 2008 at 11:11 am
the lower rear section of wtc7 burned for many hours. It fell down and to the back. That dumbass video that keeps being shown is from one angle(the front). Are you trying to tell us that the only correct video is the ones that Jones, Rense and the other sites are showing? You can deny this all you want, but the videos exist. Alex Jones and many others don’t show these videos because of obvious reasons. I’m no Bush fan, but at the most, the Bush administration closed it’s eyes on 9/11. If they are so smart, why haven’t they come up with a better candidate than McCain?
July 9th, 2008 at 11:11 am
tell us brad, what are your qualifications? Where did you go to school? You are a structural engineer correct assclown?
July 9th, 2008 at 11:12 am
all this bs you folks are printing here has been completely debunked. See for yourselves. http://www.debunking911.com
July 9th, 2008 at 11:29 am
hey Brad, does that cracker-jack hack site mention Dov Zakheim or Urban Moving Systems at all? and why are the people behind sites like debunking911.com refusing to admit who they are? some people will forever be blind, obedient sheep……..
July 9th, 2008 at 11:42 am
Brad, how old are you?
July 9th, 2008 at 11:53 am
You are wasting your time arguing with lokis. Whatever proof you present will not be valid for one reason or another. The experts you present will not be credible for one reason or another. Or, when you get close to presenting enough evidence to prove he will change the subject — all the time slipping in an insult or calling you a name.
July 9th, 2008 at 12:18 pm
Lokis, thats the basis for believing the government version, and thats why the real facts are winning out. Because you’ve got nothing except trying to make the facts look ridiculous. Ridiculous to your mind or not they are “facts”. If your waiting for government confirmation you will have a long wait. And to cite the war on drugs. OMG my sides are still hurting from laughing at that one. That was a priceless nugget. more and more the government mouth pieces look like the really whacky people. Why do you suppose that is Lokis??
You really do need to get educated, outside of a government institution. You have my sympathy and my pity.
You can only judge something after hearing all the evidence. If you dismiss actual facts from your weighing up of the situation then you are lying to yourself, not anyone else. And if you are cool with that then so am I. Because at some point you “will” have to weigh up the facts. And the more you do it now the less your head will spin when you come to the realization America isn’t the good guy. Your thinking of some movie you saw. In fact the war on drugs comment makes me think maybe thats where your sources are. John Rambo maybe??
July 9th, 2008 at 1:38 pm
I think that Brad is Brad Davis of the despicable smear attempt on Alex Jones – the same one he pulled on Michael Jackson.
Lokis…you were the result of someone not pulling out quite in time…I’m sure that you parents look askance at you every once in awhile…knowing that you weren’t a planned birth.
Why am I so incensed? Because it’s pieces of afterbirth like YOU that allow for atrocities and false-flag attacks like September 11th to occur.
You indulge in your shared delusion with your fellow 9/11 Official Staters, and implore all of us to do the same…but you seem to be missing one very important aspect of accepting that nonsense and your shared delusion – WHO BENEFITS?
According to your shared delusion, we are less than human and don’t need to be afforded human rights. We can be lied to with impunity. In fact, we have NO RIGHTS that you need to observe or respect.
Do you understand why we REJECT your bullshit lies and prevarications?
I was, until yesterday, engaged in a battle with a completely morally-compromised individual – we kept going back and forth about NONSENSE…he ended up admitting thatthe attack on the U.S.S. Liberty was an attempt to hide/obscure ILLEGAL ACTIONS taken by the Israeli Air Force, that if successfull, would have laid the blame squarely on Egypt. Luckily, our AMERICAN-BUILT intelligence ship was tougher than their shitty little air force.
Here’s the thing…I was listening to that very show last night on my walkman – Alex was discussing how he BUSTED Brad Davis on his ensuing hit piece against 9/11 Truthers, and the tactics understaken to do so. The ONE THING that these tools NEVER do is ADDRESS THE FACTS.
The Drug War…let me guess…you love those bloody pharmaceuticals, don’t you? You are nothing but a REAL useless eater…you will suck on any diseased teat that is offered to you, and you will toe the line like a good little useless eater, won’t you?
Esctasy – good!
Marijuana – bad!
Do you know that there are only three reasons marijuana is made illegal here in the U.S.?
1. Marijuana can cure most ills, including CANCER.
2. Marijauna adis in the INDEPENDENT THOUGHT PROCESS.
3. Most importantly, marijuana cannot be GENETICALLY MODIFIED!
Otherwise, Monsanto and all of those other purveyors of FrankenFoods would be at the forefront making RoundUp-Ready weed and they would ELIMINATE EVERY OTHER MARIJUANA CROP AROUND THE WORLD.
So…Brad, lokis, and any others…you can take your shared delusions of grandeur, your lies to start a war, and you can shove them up your diseased tuchises.
WE THE PEOPLE will not stand for any more!
July 9th, 2008 at 2:21 pm
You know the testimony about the water being damaged and the operations had to pull was from the firefighters, right?
So nice to see PrisonPlanet accusing the FDNY of being part of the coverup.
July 9th, 2008 at 2:25 pm
“They cannot have it both ways… was there a firefighting operation in WTC 7, or not,”
If you listen to the statements of the firefighters in the BBC documentary, they are talking about rescue & recovery operations which had to be called off.
July 9th, 2008 at 2:29 pm
here is a nice graph of the operation:
http://www.bobx.com/911.gif
July 9th, 2008 at 3:54 pm
Hey, nice display of your incompetence, Mr. Jones!
Now, better herd the sheeple twoofers real quick before they might notice how incompetent you are!
And what arfarfarf said.
July 9th, 2008 at 4:07 pm
While there have been some pretty silly explanations as to why the building fell, there has been enormous amount of very meticulous scientific investigation done by people in various fields of endeavour. They did what official government agencies failed to do and continue to fail to do.
And their verdict is that it simply isn’t possible for the three buildings to have fallen on their own footprit without some kind of controlled demolition that happened.
And them’s the facts. No matter how much disinfo is thrown out otherwise.
July 9th, 2008 at 7:19 pm
BBC like CBC like CNN like Fox like ABC like NBC on and on
One comman element–Israel firsters.Reason that a mutual cover-up exists is— Cause,Israel would be exposed as an accomplus in 911 capper.
I posted following comment on 3 sites-” Reason Pelosi does not want to impeach Bush/Cheney or go after Rove–Bush threatens Blackmail–If I hang ,so will Clinton. There is no-way that Bush in 8 months could have planned and put in operation the 911 attacks.Clinton in 1996 funded it( whole operation nukes) and Bush just give the go-ahead.
I was banned for good–Thanks to the assholes at Crocks&liars and ICH and Demo…Down
July 9th, 2008 at 9:33 pm
Three questions!
1. Who benifited from 9/11?
2. Who went to great lengths to prevent any meaningful investigation?
3. If you were innocent of a crime, would you not want an investigation to exonerate you?
I rest my case.
July 9th, 2008 at 10:36 pm
Building 5 was more heavily damaged and stayed standing for years after the attacks.
When’s the BBC coming out with BBC WTC7 Part 3: Debunking Our Own Crooked Propaganda?????
July 10th, 2008 at 12:17 am
NO WATER??? What the hell is this that they are spraying on WTC 5?
Link to photos:
http://www.infowars.net/articl.....lding7.htm
NO WATER? Bullshit. Let me guess…..that water was superimposed by Bin Ladens Photoshop teams, deep in the mountains of Pakistan….right?
BBC, you just did yourselves a terrible disservice, but truth ALWAYS wins, you presstitutes can whore yourselves out, but your souls will answer if you are not made to.
I personally can’t stand traitorous mass murderers. When the economy collapses from the cess-pool of your lies and crimes- I pray that someone or something makes you PAY for what you have done.
July 10th, 2008 at 1:06 am
Hi
I just posted the Silverstein comment as the BBC reported it back to back with his original comment. This is NOT the first time the BBC have done this. Earlier this year I posted the fact that the BBC had removed a reference to Osama Bin Laden being killed as reported by Benazir Bhutto, a day before her House arrest and 2 months before here assassination
Peace
setfree
July 10th, 2008 at 1:07 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-rW3HWC6OQ
The Silverstein Video is on the above link