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Ammunition To Use Against the “New, Improved” Bailout Proposal
George Washington’s Blog
Tuesday, Sept 30, 2008
The financial elite will propose a “new, improved” version of the bailout bill in the next couple of days. Here is some advanced ammunition to use against the proposal:
- Paulson and Congress pretended that the first bailout bill capped the initial round of funding to $200 billion, and capped executive compensation. However, treasury officials have admitted (when they thought the public wasn’t listening) that the restrictions on disbursing more than 200 big ones and CEO compensation were lies that wouldn’t be enforced (you can listen to their statements yourself: here’s part 1 of 5)
- The boys pretended that the bailout was limited to $700 billion. But that was not true (see the final vesion of the bailout proposal on page 40). Indeed, a Bloomberg analyst says that the bailout could balloon to $5 trillion dollars. And remember that “in the months before the March 2003 Iraq invasion, the Bush administration estimated the Iraq war would cost no more than $50 billion“, but it will end up costing at least $3 trillion dollars
- The snake oil salesmen said the bailout was needed to save the economy. But most experts who have looked at the bailout said it wasn’t needed, wouldn’t have worked, and would actually have made the economic crisis worse
Unless the new bailout proposal will actually help Americans, use the above proven lies by the proponents of the original bailout monster to argue that the liars cannot be believed, and that the fruit of the poisonous tree is itself poisonous.
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September 30th, 2008 at 4:30 am
If you were hanging off a sheer cliff by your fingertips and I devised a plan to save you that consisted of putting 30 pound ankle weights on you and called my plan the cliff hanger rescue plan would you consent to my ’saving’ you or take your chances that something better will come along? Of course since I control the media hordes gathered around, when you refuse I’ll just say that you didn’t want to be saved by my cliff hanger rescue plan. Then I’ll apply generous amounts of sunscreen to your fingers because I wouldn’t want you to get sunburn now.
They are lying. Presenting only false choices.
One solution as proposed by Webster Tarpley is to nationalize the fed, make derivative trading illegal and institute a new deal type program to bolster the manufacturing base while serverly penalizing corporations who move manufacturing offshore. Not saying its the BEST solution. But it is an alternative to the false choices. BTW the penalizing corporations for offshoring was my addition to Tarpley’s proposal.
September 30th, 2008 at 5:24 am
welcome to amerika
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=Vv3yuRdD2oE
September 30th, 2008 at 5:24 am
A “Flat Tax” also makes total logic, but we will never see it or logical thinking because Amerika is a fixed game, just like gambling in Vegas, house rules and the odds are in their favor. The American taxpaying slaves are begging for someone to finally watch out for their interests, but in a fixed game the greedy only care for themselves. Ron Paul spoke truth but no-one listened, now he also is no more than a talking head with no action. Where are the REAL paitriots when we need them, oh yes, feeding at the hog trough also…poor lost Americans, you had so many dreams, only to have them stolen from you by the lowly vultures of society…the Politicians, who do not have the right to lick my boots!!!
September 30th, 2008 at 5:30 am
snort snort
September 30th, 2008 at 5:50 am
The “Fed” should be a government institution, always should have been.
Get rid of the “Fed”.
I don’t trust “Fed” leaders any more than I trust bush.
September 30th, 2008 at 5:51 am
Nationalize the Fed….Wow!!! The Fed is a illegal private institution that needs to be abolished.
On June 4, 1963, a virtually unknown Presidential decree, Executive Order 11110, was signed with the authority to basically strip the Federal Reserve Bank of its power to loan money to the United States Federal Government at interest. With the stroke of a pen, President Kennedy declared that the privately owned Federal Reserve Bank would soon be out of business.
The Christian Law Fellowship has exhaustively researched this matter through the Federal Register and Library of Congress. We can now safely conclude that this Executive Order has never been repealed, amended, or superceded by any subsequent Executive Order. In simple terms, it is still valid.
When President John Fitzgerald Kennedy – the author of Profiles in Courage – signed this Order, it returned to the federal government, specifically the Treasury Department, the Constitutional power to create and issue currency – money – without going through the privately owned Federal Reserve Bank. President Kennedy’s Executive Order 11110 [the full text is displayed further below] gave the Treasury Department the explicit authority: ‘to issue silver certificates against any silver bullion, silver, or standard silver dollars in the Treasury.’ This means that for every ounce of silver in the U.S. Treasury’s vault, the government could introduce new money into circulation based on the silver bullion physically held there. As a result, more than $4 billion in United States Notes were brought into circulation in $2 and $5 denominations. $10 and $20 United States Notes were never circulated but were being printed by the Treasury Department when Kennedy was assassinated. It appears obvious that President Kennedy knew the Federal Reserve Notes being used as the purported legal currency were contrary to the Constitution of the united States of America.
United States Notes’ were issued as an interest-free and debt-free currency backed by silver reserves in the U.S. Treasury. We compared a ‘Federal Reserve Note’ issued from the private central bank of the United States (the Federal Reserve Bank a/k/a Federal Reserve System), with a ‘United States Note’ from the U.S. Treasury issued by President Kennedy’s Executive Order. They almost look alike, except one says ‘Federal Reserve Note’ on the top while the other says ‘United States Note’. Also, the Federal Reserve Note has a green seal and serial number while the United States Note has a red seal and serial number.
President Kennedy was assassinated on November 22, 1963 and the United States Notes he had issued were immediately taken out of circulation. Federal Reserve Notes continued to serve as the legal currency of the nation. According to the United States Secret Service, 99% of all U.S. paper ‘currency’ circulating in 1999 are Federal Reserve Notes.
Kennedy knew that if the silver-backed United States Notes were widely circulated, they would have eliminated the demand for Federal Reserve Notes. This is a very simple matter of economics. The USN was backed by silver and the FRN was not backed by anything of intrinsic value. Executive Order 11110 should have prevented the national debt from reaching its current level (virtually all of the nearly $9 trillion in federal debt has been created since 1963) if LBJ or any subsequent President were to enforce it. It would have almost immediately given the U.S. Government the ability to repay its debt without going to the private Federal Reserve Banks and being charged interest to create new ‘money’. Executive Order 11110 gave the U.S.A. the ability to, once again, create its own money backed by silver and realm value worth something.
Again, according to our own research, just five months after Kennedy was assassinated, no more of the Series 1958 ‘Silver Certificates’ were issued either, and they were subsequently removed from circulation. Perhaps the assassination of JFK was a warning to all future presidents not to interfere with the private Federal Reserve’s control over the creation of money. It seems very apparent that President Kennedy challenged the ‘powers that exist behind U.S. and world finance’. With true patriotic courage, JFK boldly faced the two most successful vehicles that have ever been used to drive up debt:
1) war (Viet Nam); and,
2) the creation of money by a privately owned central bank. His efforts to have all U.S. troops out of Vietnam by 1965 combined with Executive Order 11110 would have destroyed the profits and control of the private Federal Reserve Bank.
September 30th, 2008 at 6:17 am
down with the FED.
September 30th, 2008 at 6:19 am
As Goldwater Jr. recently stated, “You don’t leave a dog to guard your food, neither do you let the U.S. Congress take care of your money.” Congress gave us GATT, NAFTA, CAFTA et al, promising that if these agreements harmed the American economy that they would rescind them. Hello? They and various presidents from Carter on down (on both sides of the aisle) opened the door for the abuse by banks and various lending agencies to bring us to the current brink of monetary implosion. The American people are the collateral for the more than $10 trillion in debt with every child born holding part of that debt as their birthday present from our corporate government.
It is time that the American people to wake up and start demanding that our Federal representatives start to incrementally restore the gold standard for the U.S. dollar, call all the bank CEO’S and others into account and brought up on charges for the debackle they foisted on our economy, and retirement savings and investments.
We had our chance with Congressman Ron Paul as our Presidential candidate who wanted to restore our U.S. Constitutional and its mandates. At least we can start listening to his sound advice and demand that our representatives stop abrogating, aborting and ignoring our Limited Republic. Hold their feet to the fire and demand that they follow the covenant they made when they took their Oath of Office to uphold the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights.
September 30th, 2008 at 6:24 am
KG, knows what the hell is going on. Let me add this; Lincoln was killed for the same reason, he tried to fix the internal money , rid the private banks………
September 30th, 2008 at 6:26 am
I’m against the $85,000,000,000.00 bailout of AIG. Instead, I’m in favor of giving $85,000,000,000 to America in a We Deserve It Dividend. To make the math simple, let’s assume there are 200,000,000 bonafide U.S. Citizens 18+. Our population is about 301,000,000 +/- counting every man, woman and child. So 200,000,000 might be a fair stab at adults 18 and up.
So divide 200 million adults 18+ into $85 billion that equals $425,000.00.
My plan is to give $425,000 to every person 18+ as a We Deserve It Dividend. Of course, it would NOT be tax free. So let’s assume a tax rate of 30%. Every individual 18+ has to pay $127,500.00 in taxes. That sends 25,500,000,000 right back to Uncle Sam. But it means that every adult 18+ has $297,500.00 in their pocket.
A husband and wife have $595,000.00. What would you do with $297,500.00 to $595,000.00 in your family?
Pay off your mortgage – housing crisis solved.
Repay college loans – what a great boost to new grads
Put away money for college – it’ll be there
Save in a bank – create money to loan to entrepreneurs.
Buy a new car – create jobs
Invest in the market – capital drives growth
Pay for your parent’s medical insurance – health care improves
Enable Deadbeat Dads to come clean – or else
Remember this is for every adult U S Citizen 18+ including the folks who lost their jobs at Lehman Brothers and every other company that is cutting back. And of course, for those serving in our Armed Forces.
If we’re going to re-distribute wealth let’s really do it…instead of trickling out a puny $1000.00 (”buying the vote”) economic incentive that is being proposed by one of our candidates for President.
If we’re going to do an $85 billion bailout, let’s bail out every adult U S Citizen 18+!
As for AIG – liquidate it. Sell off its parts. Let American General go back to being American General. Sell off the real estate. Let the private sector bargain hunters cut it up and clean it up. Here’s my rationale. We deserve it and AIG doesn’t. Sure it’s a crazy idea that can “never work.”
But can you imagine the Coast-To-Coast Block Party! How do you spell Economic Boom? I trust my fellow adult Americans to know how to use the $85 Billion We Deserve It Dividend more than I do the geniuses at AIG or in Washington DC.
And remember, my plan only really costs $59.5 Billion because $25.5 Billion is returned instantly in taxes to Uncle Sam.
Ahhh…I feel so much better getting that off my chest.
September 30th, 2008 at 6:28 am
Get OUT OF IRAQ and everywhere else we don’t belong and investigate what really happened on 9-11. The answer to that will tell us what we need to do…
September 30th, 2008 at 6:34 am
who’s listening ??????????????
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSxYIBSuBtk
September 30th, 2008 at 6:54 am
Nationalizing the Fed will abolish the Fed. Its just an illustrative way to present it to the CON FED Cattle. You see its 3 words instead of 7 since their attention span evades them at around 5 words. It also points out that the FED which people ass u me is a government entity is not.
September 30th, 2008 at 6:59 am
They want a fascist planet with the superwealthy ruling it all
Since we’re too independent, America must be led to fall
When our credit’s been exhausted to subdue the Middle East,
They’ll install our debtor nation in the body of The Beast
Traitor…Dare call it treason
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uw5dP5gy2Vs
September 30th, 2008 at 7:08 am
Wow! You bloggers today are on the ball. Real good stuff!
Here is a very simple idea I have for a financial crisis. I’m a baby boomer and so are a lot of you reading this. Most of us have investments like 401K’s and so on. These thief’s on wall street and investment bank crooks like JP Morgan have been excepting our money for years for our retirement. Just about at this time baby boomers are calling on the retirement accounts so they can live happily ever after. But the crooks used it as a Ponsi Scheme and the money simply isn’t there. Answer! Create a crises! That’s what’s happening now…so don’t fall for it and don’t give in.
September 30th, 2008 at 7:14 am
They were in such a hurry to implement their plan (Kill the Republic) and then it failed
Why are they not in session today or tomorrow to discuss alternatives to this so called dire threat to the economy ?
They are not in session because they all get paid days off for a Jewish Holiday
I guess the dire threat was only in their minds
Seek the truth and it will set you FREE !!!
September 30th, 2008 at 7:20 am
I’ll never forget Aaron Russo saying in a speech, “The first thing we MUST DO is elimanate the Federal Reserve banking cartel”; after that is done, we can attack the other problems. First and formost nationalize the evil banking cartel! I think we may just do it; the failed bailout plan is a start. Keep the pressure on the Congress…lets take our country back!
September 30th, 2008 at 7:28 am
Bailout is a shell game
The Financial Crisis is a hoax designed to scare the American People into pulling
they’re money out of the bank, cash in they’re 401K, or there pension for cash to hide
under they’re mattress for safe keeping. This plan will leave banks in financial straights,
and vulnerable for the big banks to buy them up at fire sale prices.
The big banks (J.P. Morgan) then buy up banks such as Washington Mutual; a responsible
loan institution for pennys on the dollar ($1.9 Billion). Soon more responsible loan institutions
will be vulnerable for buyout. Japan banks have just in invested $900 billion into J.P Morgan
giving them a huge financial advantage poised to buy up all the good stable loans made to
responsible borrowers.
Meanwhile congress is being rushed into making a hasty bad decision to buy up bad
financial dept ($700 billion+) of tax payers money; money loaned to people who can’t
pay it back. While George and his cronys drink champagne and giggle behind the curtain.
A tribute to 8 years of financial ruin as Bush leaves office.
September 30th, 2008 at 7:48 am
I just had a thought:
I was very pleased that the bail out bill failed, very pleased. Now, the next day 09/30/08, I am also very pleased to see the stock market doing fine, just like if yesterday did not affect it. The difference with today, is that today is a holiday………….it’s Roshashana, a jewish holiday. That means that Isreal is probably, off today. I’m just noting that the stock market seems fine after the failed “bail-out”, I was wondering if today was not Roshashana, how would the stock market react to the failed “bail-out” ????????
September 30th, 2008 at 7:49 am
RE: RON
Great idea! I like it. Unless somone has a better idea, I say we put this one through.
Now… how to make it public, er, that is, VERY public.
Anyone who thinks Ron’s idea will work, pass it on to other news sites and forums everywhere. Get the word out.
September 30th, 2008 at 7:56 am
I just had a thought:
I was very pleased that the bail out bill failed, very pleased. Now, the next day 09/30/08, I am also very pleased to see the stock market doing fine, just like if yesterday did not affect it. The difference with today, is that today is a holiday………….it’s Roshashana, a jewish holiday. That means that Isreal is probably, off today. I’m just noting that the stock market seems fine after the failed “bail-out”, I was wondering if today was not Roshashana, how would the stock market react to the failed “bail-out” ????????
P.S.
I think the House wanted to show us who is really controlling our economy. I’ve been watching the international market and the European market is up, just like us. There was NO crash. So the only country that is having a holiday today is Isreal, hhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
September 30th, 2008 at 7:58 am
#10 Ron,
That is the most awesomest idea, and you should print it off, and send that to the Lou Dobbs show, and to that guy Jim Cramer, and to anyone else who has a show where the idea might be told to people over the airways.
That idea makes a hell of a lot more sense than who they plan on giving it too, which is the criminals who got all of us in this mess to begin with!!!!
September 30th, 2008 at 8:05 am
#10-Ron………….I agree with #22, you should actualy also send it to our reps in D.C., even better send it to Ron Paul.
September 30th, 2008 at 8:09 am
Great Plan Ron, I’ll take half of my share and put into the
“Prosecute Bush, Cheney and their Cronies” Fund.
September 30th, 2008 at 8:40 am
I say, have a “We Deserve It Dividend” bomb: as many people as possible email/copy & paste Ron’s statement to every media outlet/representative and senator out there. If there is an overwhelming amount of people spreading the word, then how can the entire MSM ignore it. Worth a shot? What do you say?
September 30th, 2008 at 8:42 am
Way to go Ron! makes a lot of sense to me. Lets put that to the American people for a vote. Sounds like it would save at least 700+ billion.
September 30th, 2008 at 9:08 am
Just sent Rons plan to my senators and representatives.
September 30th, 2008 at 9:24 am
Vote NO BAIL OUT 2008
Most Financial Experts who have studied the Bail Out 2008 such as Professors, Leading Economist, etc. have said it would NOT work in its current form. This Bail Out will only have one outcome in its current form is to make the sell off faster for the Crooks who are Bailing Out of thier own companies via a Golden Parachute. Why allow them to keep thier Mansions (PLURAL)
September 30th, 2008 at 9:36 am
Thomas Jefferson
“If the American people ever allow private banks
to control the issue of their money,
first by inflation and then by deflation,
the banks and corporations that will
grow up around them, will deprive the people of their property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1V5iCUBEUx4
September 30th, 2008 at 9:37 am
rons an idiot – you mean $425 right?
September 30th, 2008 at 9:47 am
Sorry #10, both your math and your idea of how money works are wrong.
First off, 200 m people splitting up 700 b dollars would = $3500 each, not your sum. Divided into 85b (AIG) would only be $425.
Second, your “plan” would cause instant hyper-inflation, and all these thousands would become worth less, then ultimately worthless. Look for “Duck Tales Inflation Lesson” on youtube. Here is a link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_LWQQrpSc4
September 30th, 2008 at 9:48 am
Ron,
Please! Please! Please! stop sending this email everywhere. I’ve seen this in many forums and blogs. You’re continually making a fool of yourself and everyone else who says “wow! great idea! CHECK YOUR MATH!!! 85 BILLION DIVIDED BY 200 MILLION PEOPLE is 425.00 NOT 425,000! Please wake up.
September 30th, 2008 at 9:56 am
Ron, you’re an idiot – your math is waaaay wrong, by 3 zeros.
What people are getting at the end (if you divide 85 billion bailout of AIG among 200 million people) is $425. That’s it. Four hundred and twenty five dollars. You can buy an iPod and have some change left over.
And the rest of you followers screaming “it’s a great idea”, you guys don’t do any of your thinking, do you? If something sounds too good, it usually is. Yeah, great, let each adult get $425 thousand, right? Do you know how much money is needed for that? You need $85,000,000,000,000,000 which is $85 TRILLION dollars.
As for the bailout, either way, the bankers will get their money. Either they get a $700 billion line of credit to purchase everything and consolidate, or they suck you dry of all investments, banks fold, etc, and only a few big players are alive at the end. You don’t really win either way.
September 30th, 2008 at 10:00 am
Ron’s proposal sounds good, but did anyone check the math? If we gave 85 billion to 200 million americans, it would only amount to $425 each, enough to buy a small flat screen TV. In order to give 200 million Americans $425,000 each, we would need 85 trillion, not billion. So that is not going to happen, but it sounded good. What we need to do is eliminate the Federal Reserve, tell the bankers and creditors we are not paying the 11 trillion debt that we have since it was the Federal Reserve’s funny money anyways, and start printing our own money backed by precious metals so we can be a strong prosperous country again. The greeat thing about a currency being tied to precious metals, is it limits the growth of government and curbs there spending since they won’t be able to print money out of thin air everytime they need it. That is the biggest problem to our current financial situation. They will keep printing and borrowing above our means until we collapse.
September 30th, 2008 at 10:04 am
To # 10 and any who support that idea,
I had a thought like that with the $700 Billion bailout bill, but the math is wrong. I don’t mean to disrespect anyone but it becomes easy to see how so many people can be tricked with not too much effort. And why? Because “we” don’t check our facts.
In the AIG $85 Billion case and 200 million 18+ yr olds . . . . let us do the math.
1 Billion is a thousand million, and 85 Billion looks like this: 85,000,000,000
200 million looks like this: 200,000,000
now, to make the math easier to do, cancel out the zeros in common and you are left with
850 divided by 2 (the same as 85 Billion divided by 200 Million) and you get $425.00 for every 18+ yr old.
Now, if we were to take the $700 Billion “Bailout” and give it to all 301 Million people we’d still only get $2,325.58 per person. In a family of four, that’s $9,302.33 Not bad, but not enough to pay off most cars, let alone houses.
I do like the idea that if we are going to print money, to give it to the people not the big Wall Street Co.’s but I hope this math lesson shows that it won’t do as much as some think it will.
If you read Alexis de Tocqueville’s “Democracy In America” Vol. 1 and 2, you can see that the people will destroy their country when the vote themselves “money” from the treasury.
Yours in the Free Market,
Adam Smith
September 30th, 2008 at 10:05 am
Umm… fuzzy math people – that actually $425 to you and me…
Even the expected $5 Trillion total bailout would only give $25,000 (pre tax) – I say we go with Exec Order 11110 – that’s our only way out of this mess – short of a new revolution.
Let’s not be easy pray for fanciful email chains – if we do the terrorists win!
September 30th, 2008 at 10:35 am
Stop the madness!
Stop chasing ghosts.
Stop falling for the bullshit.
http://illuminatimatrix.wordpr.....symbolism/
Come see reality.
You’ve been warned.
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September 30th, 2008 at 10:53 am
more Americans need to wake up and listen to alex jones
September 30th, 2008 at 11:55 am
“”On June 4, 1963, a virtually unknown Presidential decree, Executive Order 11110, was signed with the authority
to basically strip the Federal Reserve Bank of its power to loan money to the United States Federal Government at interest.
With the stroke of a pen, President Kennedy declared that the privately owned Federal Reserve Bank would soon be out of business.
The Christian Law Fellowship has exhaustively researched this matter through the Federal Register and Library of Congress.
They can now safely conclude that this Executive Order has never been repealed, amended, or superceded by any subsequent Executive Order.
In simple terms, it is still valid.”"
well said!!……..I believe that WE THE PEOPLE have had enough.
ever since the end of the American revolution (please note the root of this word, “revolt”)
The british empire has been at us, in under the table ways, and in some cases, not so under the table….
Lincoln, was shot.
Mcinnly was shot.
FDR was shot AT, however, not hit. (america THen had one of the best economies in the world until FDR’s death.)
kennedy was shot.
The “Free Market Economy”= the british imperial system.
nafta is a failure. (by design)
in the british system, cheap labor, resources, and wealth, were systematicly bled from a people,
or nation, and brought back to the “Crown”, which is the corperate city state of london (not part of england)
the way imperial systems accomplish this, is to militarize “chokepoints”
in trade routs..(british royal navy was the most power weapon of war, and oppression for well over 100 years)
THE AMERICAN SYSTEM: to develope our infrastructure, employ OUR people, NO FED, and PROTECT our interests…. yes, i said it,
PROTECTIONISM…
bring back the 44%import tarif.
push it hard.
push the next president to enact Executive Order 11110!!!
push it hard, get it done…..you will be a hero, chicks will digg you, when you leave office, write a book, and
become wealthier.
i am sending an edited body of this “soap box rant” to every congresssional member,
to obama, (while i plead to him against even trying to mess around with the 2nd ammendment)..
clearly i am not a law proffessor, or a rocket scientist….i am a citizen, yet clearly, it is quite obvious to me what is
happening to our beloved republic
i am a citizen…
i am a constituant…(please note the root of my missspelling of the word constitution)
which you swore an OATH to protect, and defend said document,
and respectfully, as a governing body, as a whole, have FAILED to a point of criminal neglegence, dereliction of duty,
and in many cases, HIGH TREASON!
WE THE PEOPLE have had enough…..
September 30th, 2008 at 12:22 pm
good to see that someof you floride head can still count and know how to divide.
Here is one for you ? xxxx? Illuminati+ ??xxx? NWO scum divided by the 200M armed americans = either a good kill ratio or an opportunity to be free again and hold your head up high
September 30th, 2008 at 1:28 pm
There is a new beginning on the horizon. the big bad boys are now out of the banking business and three large American banks will become leaders in the recovery without any need for a government bailout. They are the bank Of America, J.P. Morgan and Citi Bank. But the big bad Wolves are still not dead. They have some friends in congress that are still trying to give them 700 billion dollars so they can get back in the game of fleecing the American public. The latest trick is a con job to make people believe that there is a new bailout bill being written. But it is the same swindle with the paragraphs put in different places and the words more deceiving. It is now up to the American public to let their Congressmen know that they want the new bailout proposal rejected. The fruits from a poison tree remains poison even if they look good. Lets not let the bankers play golf and enjoy their harems with our bucks.
September 30th, 2008 at 2:06 pm
“”" Wizard of Oz Says:
September 30th, 2008 at 12:22 pm
good to see that someof you floride head can still count and know how to divide.
Here is one for you ? xxxx? Illuminati+ ??xxx? NWO scum divided by the 200M armed americans = either a good kill ratio or an opportunity to be free again and hold your head up high”"”"
works for me
September 30th, 2008 at 2:17 pm
Forget the bailout!
Everyone is quarreling over one more piece of criminal legislation when it is merely a part of a criminal system. You’re playing into their hands by debating this issue. By treating the bailout legislation as a point of contention you are implicitly condoning the system that spawned it.
The banking and political systems that produce this ridiculous drivel have been screwing you and several generations before you.
Don’t fight the system:
Replace it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73×8uOXQjag
September 30th, 2008 at 3:20 pm
I’m with ya’ Melvin! They have lived like rock stars without having earned anything by the sweat of their brow, now let them wallow in their own undoing!
September 30th, 2008 at 3:39 pm
I like the idea of giving everyone in USA exactly $1 Million dollars, for a total cost of only $300 Million dollars.
September 30th, 2008 at 4:31 pm
An Analysis Of The Change Issue
As yet another Presidential election season has come due, it is well worth noting that “change” has become a constantly recurring campaign slogan in American elections. Those intellectuals who opt to continue onward with such a tired refrain are well aware that very little will change for the betterment of the American public-at-large, in spite of the media-controlled flood of campaign rhetoric on behalf of the respective nominees.
Many Americans may well wonder, “Why is it that we desire change in the first place?”
Whereas the Constitution of the United States was originally fabricated in order to give the American citizens a simple guideline for their representative government, more than two- hundred years of incessant Legislation has produced a miasma of orders, acts, statues and laws that are repugnant to the Constitution – each time these ideas have been merged into public policy in the name of change.
read the rest @ http://beholdtheforce.blogspot.com/
September 30th, 2008 at 5:41 pm
Um, EO, If you give every one in the United States 1 million & it totals 300 million, hm, well, that would mean there are only 300 million people in the united states. HERES YOUR SIGN!
September 30th, 2008 at 11:42 pm
“D’OH!!!”
September 30th, 2008 at 11:45 pm
T888: You mean “only 300 people,” right? “D’OH!!!”
October 1st, 2008 at 2:42 am
http://www.obamacrimes.com http://www.thepentacon.com http://www.donaldtrumphair.com yee haw no mo obama. no bama yo mama. LOL
October 1st, 2008 at 5:42 am
“The Economic Rescue Plan”…
The Wall Street Bailout Bill:
Bush McCain Obama et al.
The Realignment of American Politics:
Anderson Baldwin Carter Choate Clemente Gonzalez Gravel Kaptur Kucinich McKinney Nader Paul Perot Sheehan Ventura
October 1st, 2008 at 7:42 pm
false flag then amero very soon. This is classic.