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Anti-war groups turn against Barack Obama after Afghanistan surge
Alex Spillius
London Telegraph
Monday, August 31, 2009
Anti-war protesters are planning an autumn campaign against President Barack Obama’s extension of operations in Afghanistan to coincide with the eighth anniversary of the first bombing of the Taliban.
There is rising disillusion among liberals and peace activists that a president who built his campaign on his opposition to the war in Iraq now views America’s other conflict as a “war of necessity”.
Mr Obama has already added 21,000 extra troops to the 38,000 stationed there by George W Bush. In the next few weeks, he is likely to receive requests from the Pentagon for more when Gen Stanley McChrystal, the US commander in Afghanisan, submits a report on the progress of the war.
It is expected to paint a grim picture and offer the president three options for action: increase troop numbers dramatically, increase them less dramatically or leave them as they are.
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August 31st, 2009 at 10:54 am
We should declare victory and exit the country. Most people in the U.S. don’t give a rat’s rear end what happens to Afghanistan. I don’t think the whole country is worth another U. S. soldier’s life. We are there to secure the country so a pipeline can be built, no other reason. type “gas pipeline” and “Afghanistan” into a search engine. Or try “taliban” and “pipeline”. Look here: http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/oil.html
Guns-n-Gold Reply:
August 31st, 2009 at 11:29 am
Who can tax the trees, and give themselves a raise? Our government can!
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snafuism Reply:
August 31st, 2009 at 11:33 am
you mean we’re not there for the dope?
Social Viability Reply:
August 31st, 2009 at 12:57 pm
I think the dope is what’s called a fringe benefit. Opium production apparently has shot up since the US occupation.
The CIA has to get their funding from somewhere, right?
We’re also in there to fatten the profits of the military industrial complex.
It’s a win, win, win situation…
…unless your an American taxpayer, Afghan or soldier. Then you’re screwed.
Either way, human decency and living conditions do not count for anything in the face of profit and power for the owners of the US government.
Don’t fight the system:
Replace it
http://socialviability.com/
T. R. Eddy Reply:
August 31st, 2009 at 5:03 pm
Not only the “Military Industrial Complex” but just think of all the beautiful vigorish paid on the increased deficit financing. All those that hold interest in the “Fed” are salivating at the further bondage they are placing the average American in. Doesn’t it just thrill you to know you are helping the “Red Shield” rule the world? Their symbol has been a red six pointed star. It is a symbol of Satanic occultism, Kabala.
truthsoldja Reply:
August 31st, 2009 at 10:27 pm
occultism has nothing to do with satanism or the church of satan, those practicioners are worldly occultist. occult simply means hidden, as in the hidden knowledge the illuminati has kept from humanity. this is done for 2 reasons ecause many of mankind are not ready to understand full wisdom and enlightenment and those that believe they do want to hold a grip on the keys. it is up to us to realize these truths and understand them if we wish to defeat the illuminati. boogey men such as satan and a white bearded male figure as god sevres as distractions to the real depth and complexities of gods creations as well as the simplicities we fail to see. so dont fall for the bs u hear on here sometimes and learn what occultism realy is about if ye be seakers of truth. jezus, buddha and several others that are revered in many religions tought occult knowledge, you would be surpised how much real christianity has in common with occultism and gnosticism and not with the many misguided parishoners of today.the key ultimately is u, as a creation and child of god you have it within you to make your reality and this world a better place the kabala is a tool for understanding god and his creation of life it has nothing to do with satan it is only a way to help us in our limited understanding of our creator. if anyone dismisses this or wishes to keep us from knowing the truths because its “satanic” then they wish to keep you as ignorant as the illuminati would prefer u to be.
williamwallace Reply:
September 1st, 2009 at 3:05 am
Dont forget a potencial drug addict too.
El Diablo Muchacha Reply:
September 1st, 2009 at 2:11 pm
Way its always been Soc, google the “Opium Wars” to find out more…
fist of fun Reply:
August 31st, 2009 at 1:45 pm
They’re probably dumping it into the U.S. water supply, hence the slack-jawed apathy.
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Malone Ducklo Reply:
August 31st, 2009 at 8:42 pm
all this money blown on Iraq and Afghanistan we could have developed hydrogen fuel cells and alternative energy and replaced the entire petro infrastructure.
4treasons Reply:
September 1st, 2009 at 12:47 am
victory? how about a bad drunk that should never be remembered again. shoot those who sent them in the first place, then all those in favor of being there
williamwallace Reply:
September 1st, 2009 at 2:58 am
I read an ariticle some 16 years ago from a hightimes magazien when I was 15 talking about how a company called haliburton who built a oil pipeline through afghanistan into russia, was sneeking heroin inside of the pipeline itself so the pressure of the pipes pushed the sealed drugs through customs and borders with out worry of arrests and didnt have to greasing of palms to keep their profits high. So this heroin gets to europe from russia. This article also linked a name I also at the time didnt know about much like that company. His name was ??? Dick Chenney or how ever ist spelled. That devil is friends with bush a skull and bones member who as most know that sociatys history has been funded with opium money and its also where we see the skull and cross bones on all medication that can potencialy be poisionus to people and children causing possible death , the disorder of death LOL.
THE AGGRAVATOR Reply:
September 1st, 2009 at 7:49 am
The CIA knows best, and if they think we should stay there for 50 more years, than they
are right. There isn’t any nwo, a rampant dillusion made up by alex.
fat cat Reply:
September 1st, 2009 at 12:40 pm
The Blue Beam Project will pretend to be the universal fulfillment of the prophecies of old, as major an event as that which occurred 2,000 years ago. In principle, it will make use of the skies as a movie screen (on the sodium layer at about 60 miles) as space-based laser-generating satellites project simultaneous images to the four corners of the planet in every language and dialect according to the region. It deals with the religious aspect of the new world order and is deception and seduction on a massive scale.
http://www.thegrandawakening.com
August 31st, 2009 at 11:14 am
As much as war is showing us the duality right now, the dark forces feed off war quite a bit and its vibration is keeping the collective divided and unconscious.
http://www.collective-evolutio.....ne-update/
August 31st, 2009 at 11:32 am
As much as I despise Obama, escalating the fight in Afghanistan is the best way to fight these f---ers. Increase drone attacks, increase paying for intel from Pakistanis and kill as many of the taliban/al qaeda fighters we can.
Keep fighitng them
Horus Reply:
August 31st, 2009 at 11:55 am
DOD’s MONTHLY spending rate for the global war on terror is currently $12 billion, including $10 billion per month in Iraq. Using a 30-day month, this means DOD is spending on Iraq roughly $2.3 billion per week, $333 million per day, $13.9 million per hour, $232,000 per minute, and $3,867 per second.
Notice how Reconmarine wants to increase these figures.
Dilbert McGunnut Reply:
August 31st, 2009 at 12:49 pm
Why are we fighting people in Afghanistan? If it wasn’t for the oil/gas pipeline project we wouldn’t even be there. If you want to fight them you should re-up.
Truth monger Reply:
August 31st, 2009 at 1:09 pm
Armchairmarine likes other people to do the fightin though. Since he spends his entire day eating cheeze doodles wacking off in his moms basement and making dumb comments on PrisonPlanet he isn’t in very good shape physically. Too fat and weak to run a mile he types ferociously on his computer and pretends he is tough.
Sad little thing he is.
Reconmarine Reply:
August 31st, 2009 at 2:03 pm
Wow…really got me there…..
Pretends to be tough. no, im not talking s---, just telling the truth from what i see….
Woftam-Hunter Reply:
August 31st, 2009 at 5:43 pm
Tell me:
How the hell can you see, with your head up your ass.
cad51short Reply:
August 31st, 2009 at 11:38 pm
“Pretends to be tough. no, im not talking s---, just telling the truth from what i see…”
If what you say is true and we need to fight them…what are you doing typing on a “conspiracy theorists” website all day instead of fighting them?
You’re either a coward or a liar…pick one
El Diablo Muchacha Reply:
September 1st, 2009 at 2:17 pm
Just leave ReconTARD alone, he’s a troll, plain and simple. And hey, I could never run a mile even in the days when I raved (danced) allnite, so have some sympathy for the athlectically challenged among us…
Wow, “athlectiaclly challenged I just invented an new “pollitically correct” nom de plume. OBAMA SUCK MY COCK, will ya?
El Diablo Muchacha Reply:
September 1st, 2009 at 2:19 pm
That should read *sighs*: “athletically challenged”, of course
1984 Reply:
August 31st, 2009 at 4:39 pm
Afghanistan = graveyard for empires
Bernard Sumner Reply:
September 1st, 2009 at 1:32 am
Title: The Young British Soldier
Author: Rudyard Kipling
When the ‘arf-made recruity goes out to the East
‘E acts like a babe an’ ‘e drinks like a beast,
An’ ‘e wonders because ‘e is frequent deceased
Ere ‘e’s fit for to serve as a soldier.
Serve, serve, serve as a soldier,
Serve, serve, serve as a soldier,
Serve, serve, serve as a soldier,
So-oldier of the Queen!
Now all you recruities what’s drafted to-day,
You shut up your rag-box an’ ‘ark to my lay,
An’ I’ll sing you a soldier as far as I may:
A soldier what’s fit for a soldier.
Fit, fit, fit for a soldier . . .
First mind you steer clear o’ the grog-sellers’ huts,
For they sell you Fixed Bay’nets that rots out your guts –
Ay, drink that ‘ud eat the live steel from your butts –
An’ it’s bad for the young British soldier.
Bad, bad, bad for the soldier . . .
When the cholera comes — as it will past a doubt –
Keep out of the wet and don’t go on the shout,
For the sickness gets in as the liquor dies out,
An’ it crumples the young British soldier.
Crum-, crum-, crumples the soldier . . .
But the worst o’ your foes is the sun over’ead:
You must wear your ‘elmet for all that is said:
If ‘e finds you uncovered ‘e’ll knock you down dead,
An’ you’ll die like a fool of a soldier.
Fool, fool, fool of a soldier . . .
If you’re cast for fatigue by a sergeant unkind,
Don’t grouse like a woman nor crack on nor blind;
Be handy and civil, and then you will find
That it’s beer for the young British soldier.
Beer, beer, beer for the soldier . . .
Now, if you must marry, take care she is old –
A troop-sergeant’s widow’s the nicest I’m told,
For beauty won’t help if your rations is cold,
Nor love ain’t enough for a soldier.
‘Nough, ‘nough, ‘nough for a soldier . . .
If the wife should go wrong with a comrade, be loath
To shoot when you catch ‘em — you’ll swing, on my oath! –
Make ‘im take ‘er and keep ‘er: that’s Hell for them both,
An’ you’re shut o’ the curse of a soldier.
Curse, curse, curse of a soldier . . .
When first under fire an’ you’re wishful to duck,
Don’t look nor take ‘eed at the man that is struck,
Be thankful you’re livin’, and trust to your luck
And march to your front like a soldier.
Front, front, front like a soldier . . .
When ‘arf of your bullets fly wide in the ditch,
Don’t call your Martini a cross-eyed old bitch;
She’s human as you are — you treat her as sich,
An’ she’ll fight for the young British soldier.
Fight, fight, fight for the soldier . . .
When shakin’ their bustles like ladies so fine,
The guns o’ the enemy wheel into line,
Shoot low at the limbers an’ don’t mind the shine,
For noise never startles the soldier.
Start-, start-, startles the soldier . . .
If your officer’s dead and the sergeants look white,
Remember it’s ruin to run from a fight:
So take open order, lie down, and sit tight,
And wait for supports like a soldier.
Wait, wait, wait like a soldier . . .
When you’re wounded and left on Afghanistan’s plains,
And the women come out to cut up what remains,
Jest roll to your rifle and blow out your brains
An’ go to your Gawd like a soldier.
Go, go, go like a soldier,
Go, go, go like a soldier,
Go, go, go like a soldier,
So-oldier of the Queen!
Texas Boy Reply:
August 31st, 2009 at 10:09 pm
Why don’t you sign up and go over there to paticipate in the action (and get killed while you are there ???
Liberty or death Reply:
September 1st, 2009 at 12:06 pm
“Al Qaeda” doesn’t exist, and the Taliban is funded by American tax dollars. Get a clue!
August 31st, 2009 at 11:46 am
If memory serves captain…didn’t Barack O’Bama indicate that all troops would be out of Iraq within six months of him becoming president?
Kurk: Hey Spock …………………………………………(long pause)…………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………….you’re absolutely right.
August 31st, 2009 at 11:51 am
Spock: Captain an unidentified alien message is being heard on our emergency frequency, …it’s coming through clearly but it makes no sense.
Captain Kurk: Yes Spock I know….. it’s that ClingAss retard Reconmarine from the federation.
August 31st, 2009 at 11:57 am
Scotty: Captain! We’ve transported an alien up to our ship by mistake! He’s here in the transporter room, and we just can’t get rid of him.
Captain: What’s it’s saying Scotty:
Scotty: He says his name is Jim Lunsford captain and it’s a horrible site! What should I do?
Captain: Emergency Alert! Code Red! Security ….put your phasers on max …to kill.
Captain Pike Reply:
August 31st, 2009 at 1:50 pm
Scotty, transport the alien into deep space at once. Energize!
Captain Picard Reply:
August 31st, 2009 at 3:12 pm
Belay that order and send Jim back to the Prison Planet web site where he should be. He one of the few that makes sense there. Energize now.
Captain Janeway Reply:
September 1st, 2009 at 2:26 pm
No, belay that order (I’M IN CHARGE HERE, GENTLEMEN,) beam him to my quarters, he makes me HOT!
August 31st, 2009 at 12:02 pm
About time the so called left anti-war speak out against ALL THE WAR MONGERS ON THE LEFT THAT ARE SO CALLED JUST NOW THAT THEY ARE IN OFFICE…….
August 31st, 2009 at 12:21 pm
Here’s an idea, anyone who thinks Afghanistan is the good war should either join up and go over there or send their kids. Oh and take Reconmarine with you please.
Liberty or death Reply:
September 1st, 2009 at 12:08 pm
Ha ha, exactly!
August 31st, 2009 at 1:07 pm
There is a reason the brits called their very old war from last century in Afghanistan “The Game” and they could not win it. Nor could the soviets win their war. Nor will we. It would be like the feds trying to fight a guerilla war here against constitutional patriots. Fail…
August 31st, 2009 at 3:47 pm
Those FOOLS in the Obushma Administration need to watch Rambo III – the Afghan people have NEVER been defeated by ANY invading army and THEY NEVER WILL!
August 31st, 2009 at 3:48 pm
It is in a way, a “War of necessity”. To get their hands on all that coke, and the black gold.
August 31st, 2009 at 4:11 pm
wait.. did i just see recon admit too a dislike of obama? thats a step in the right direction. maybe people can change.
August 31st, 2009 at 4:26 pm
The Russians also claimed victory when they left Afghanistan.
Or didn’t they? Was it the British who yelled, hoora we won, as they left to have a cupper?
Is Afghanistan really a country? Isn’t it just a big training area for armies to go on manouvers?
Do they have an army themselves or are we just fighting the Afghan navy?
What’s the legal age too buy alcohol in Afghanistan?
Maybe if America gave every Afghan the american citizenship and enrolled them in to become the next amercan state, the Afghan’s could be taxed into hell and back send every IRS agent knocking on their door with a warrent, put fluoride in their drinking water, declare martial law, put up FEMA camps, give them flatscreen tv’s, give them free press, cutback on farming and let them work in airconditioned offices, Starbucks, Mc Donalds, KFC, Burger King a muslim evangelist on tv every 5 hours (payed and controlled by the government ofcourse), put up three Disney worlds (the country is big enough for it) an Afghan Dr Phil Oprah and Tom Cruise, SUV’s, gasoline 50 cents a gallon, movies and cinemas.
Maybe that would work. It sure did for us.
Shilah Reply:
September 1st, 2009 at 10:36 am
yup… When Ronald Reagan set out to destroy the Evil Empire, someone asked him how he would do it.
He replied, “I’ll bankrupt ‘em.”
& that’s what he did. He coaxed just enough military spending approval out of Congress, that the USSR had to ramp up their military spending & deployments. Afghanistan’s mountains were too much for the Russkies (as for the Brits before them)… & soon the whole USSR went belly-up.
Sound familiar ?
now WE are the ones in Afghanistan, & are going bankrupt.
El Diablo Muchacha Reply:
September 1st, 2009 at 2:33 pm
Yeah, karma’s a bitch, ain’t it?
August 31st, 2009 at 5:03 pm
There are a many countries in the world with groups like the CIA funded Taliban and Al Caeda struggling against the New World Order and we are one of them. As a result anyone having the temerity to mention the Constitution is an American Freedom fighter/terrorist, just as FDR defined in 1933. Our government does not control spending, which delights the Illuminati banks, but hey, this didn’t come over mainstream media, so it must be wrong.
America is the home of the Fourth Reich, and with good reason: MKULTRA
August 31st, 2009 at 6:42 pm
He’s pretending he doesn’t believe in the 9/11 inside job fact, and that someone in an Afghanistan cave masterminded the whole thing. We all know this is absurd. It is very clear now that he is just another tool of the clandestined elite running this mess we call the USA.
No honeymoon here, all we needed was proof he was a lying bastard. Prepare for 3+ more years of rocky road Obama, your making your bed, now your going to have to sleep in it.
El Diablo Muchacha Reply:
September 1st, 2009 at 2:36 pm
I always sleep in an unmade bed, mate.
August 31st, 2009 at 8:42 pm
I wonder what terrorist attack will occur this coming 9/11 ? False flag that is ???
August 31st, 2009 at 9:52 pm
I love how anti war protesters don’t schedule protest in the heat of summer or the dead of winter.
September 1st, 2009 at 4:12 am
What anti-war groups? Do you see any? Anything like a micobus convention of yore? No long hair, no full streets? Where are they?
Small private groups meeting God-knows-where and God-knows-when for God-knows-what are not anti-war groups.
El Diablo Muchacha Reply:
September 1st, 2009 at 2:44 pm
Controlled anti-establishmentarialism to make it SEEM that people give a s--- about killing brown people for oil, does not sit right with me. I wanna see blood, sweat and tears.
September 1st, 2009 at 4:19 am
Al-Qaeda means the base..It originated in a U.S bunker as” The Data Base”..The people that the American Government had been pissing off,needed to be organized and built up..Thats the sickness you pay taxes towards…The left aren’t in power in America..Get it straight..Its a procession of puppets ,all the same..Same agenda..Grab what you can from whomever..Its a pigfest and soon they will kill you ,because your pollution is hurting THEIR families…
September 1st, 2009 at 9:17 am
Clinton Bush Obama are the puppets. We now can all see it. The last true president was JFK but since none have stood up for humanity. The corrupt bankers and war lords are in charge and this will soon end for so many of us. The old regime must die before the creation of the new world. A purification process necessary to clean the dirt and corruption away so it can be replaced with energies of Love,Peace,respect,harmony.
Satanist rule the planet and have put God’s creation in danger. We must and will rise from the long sleep we have gone through and turn our faiths to the light of the God creator of all visible and invisible lives.
I wish all Peace in a more loving world where greed and selfishness does not exist.
Remember Jesus, remember Mother Theresa. These are the true Mentors of humanity.
September 1st, 2009 at 11:27 am
i think the usa should pull all the troops out of afganistan and then bomb that
place with stink bombs.
El Diablo Muchacha Reply:
September 1st, 2009 at 2:46 pm
YAY, STINKBOMBS!! Perhaps they can smell like the crap that comes out of every politician’s mouth!
September 1st, 2009 at 12:05 pm
Hey we spend 48% of WORLD military spending already! Isn’t THAT WAY TOO MUCH?
http://www.globalissues.org/ar.....rySpending
We should be following George Washington’s Great Rule of Conduct.