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    Arctic Ice Grows 30 Per Cent In a Year 190808polar

    Predictions of “ice free” summer for first time in history completely debunked

    Paul Joseph Watson
    Prison Planet
    Tuesday, August 19, 2008

    Alarmist scientists who predicted that the North Pole could be “ice free” this summer as a result of global warming have been embarrassed after it was revealed that Arctic ice has actually grown by around 30 per cent in the year since August 2007.

    Back in June, numerous prominent voices in the scientific community expressed fears of a mass melting of the polar ice caps, including David Barber, of the University of Manitoba, who told National Geographic Magazine, “We’re actually projecting this year that the North Pole may be free of ice for the first time [in history].”

    “This summer’s forecast—and unusual early melting events all around the Arctic—serve as a dire warning of how quickly the polar regions are being affected by climate change,” adds the article.

    (ARTICLE CONTINUES BELOW)


    In February, Dr. Olav Orheim, head of the Norwegian International Polar Year Secretariat, told Xinhua, “If Norway’s average temperature this year equals that in 2007, the ice cap in the Arctic will all melt away, which is highly possible judging from current conditions.”

    As per usual, the reality has failed to match the hype of the climate doomsayers.

    According to collated data from the NASA Marshall Space Flight Center and the University of Illinois, Arctic ice extent was 30 per cent greater on August 11, 2008 than it was on the August 12, 2007. This is a conservative estimate based on the map projection.

    Arctic Ice Grows 30 Per Cent In a Year 190808ice
    Blue pixels represent increased ice coverage over the North Pole in the year since August 2007.

    The video below highlights the differences between those two dates,” reports The Register. “As you can see, ice has grown in nearly every direction since last summer – with a large increase in the area north of Siberia. Also note that the area around the Northwest Passage (west of Greenland) has seen a significant increase in ice. Some of the islands in the Canadian Archipelago are surrounded by more ice than they were during the summer of 1980.”

    But what of the Antarctic down south? Figures tell us that ice coverage in the year since August 2007 has grown by nearly one million square kilometers.

    As The Register article notes, “The Arctic did not experience the meltdowns forecast by NSIDC and the Norwegian Polar Year Secretariat. It didn’t even come close. Additionally, some current graphs and press releases from NSIDC seem less than conservative. There appears to be a consistent pattern of overstatement related to Arctic ice loss.”

    A general cooling trend across the planet is now clearly apparent as sunspot activity, the main driver of climate change, dwindles to almost nothing.

    As we reported last week, A top observatory that has been measuring sun cycles for over 200 years predicts that global temperatures will drop by two degrees over the next two decades as solar activity grinds to a halt and the planet drastically cools down, potentially heralding the onset of a new ice age.

    While the mass media, Al Gore and politicized bodies like the IPCC scaremonger about the perils of global warming and demand the poor and middle class pay CO2 taxes, both hard scientific data and circumstantial evidence points to a clear cooling trend.

    How man-made global warming advocates will spin this one remains to be seen – maybe they will just continue to adopt their current tactic by claiming that any geological or weather event whatsoever, be it hurricanes, earthquakes, droughts or floods, temperature increase or decrease, and even a 30 per cent growth of the polar ice cap – is a result of that evil life-giving gas that we exhale – CO2.

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    109 Responses to “Arctic Ice Grows 30 Per Cent In a Year”

    1. Someone Says:

      Nice.

    2. luke Says:

      do you think the moronic gore brigade might turn things round now and reverse their global carbon tax policies to encourage us to increase our carbon foot prints to release more co2? if we dont this ice cap could spread and engulf the entire planet,(im getting very scared,ninny,ninny)we must take action now(tremble) or in the near future we might see pictures of the endangered tropical parrot perched on the very highest branch of a peepul tree with the impending icecap licking at his shivering feet and fresh snow settled on its colourful beak.we must realease more carbon otherwise the parrots are doomed!were all doomed!!at least the polar bears are ok now though(aaaaaah,there so cute).

    3. Brian Says:

      See this website for more info about 2012 everyone: http://www.howtosurvive2012.com/htm_night/home.htm
      Apparently, the US and most of Europe will be completely destroyed, and the only way to survive the 2km high tidal waves is to build an indstructable boat, of which only 6,000 exist.

    4. luke Says:

      if it continues to grow at this rate we will all be under ice within 20 years!we must act now to save the parrot from certain extinction.my people are in contact with kaballa maddonna and big cheif guru sting.weve a provisional name for a concert against global cooling its called”parrot aid”join me and together we can stop this certain catastrophe.release more co2 now,i urge anyone who loves this planet to go outside sit in your car and just rev your engine at 5000 rpm this might just save us.
      the eskimo’s are coming there taking over the world aghhhhhhhhh!

      willie the pimp Reply:

      ha,ha, parrot aid. dont forget to sign jimmy buffet as the opening act.
      i’d rev to 5000 rpm but my car has a limiter set to 4000,i’ll give it my best though

    5. Alan Says:

      Up yours Al Gore!

    6. SPIRIT777 Says:

      Jesus wins in the end ahhhhhhhh, coooooool :)

    7. Luke Orlosky Says:

      THE SKY IS FALLING!!! THE SKY IS FALLING!!!

    8. Brian Says:

      I sent this article to my country’s Green Party (Ireland). I wonder how offended they will be? My God.

    9. blindboy Says:

      Eat more beans.

    10. Nitehawk Says:

      This is great… Go Alex Go!!
      I love the work that your staff does as well…

    11. vein Says:

      The ’scientists’ that proclaimed the lie about melting KNOW that the rebuttal will get near zero space in the zionist controlled mass media, and that is all they care about.

      Edward Bernays taught that propaganda shouldn’t care about THE TRUTH, but about the perception of ‘the truth’ in the mind of the sheeple. Global warming is a cult, like the belief system held by most people that obsess about UFO’s etc (or even, sad to say, the belief system held by most ‘activists’ that fret about the NWO).

      A genuine scientist can hold a genuine interest in the global patterns of weather systems on the Earth, and their relationship to various factors, including Man. His/her scientific curiosity would be typified by a neutral and dispassionate exploration of facts and theories.

      Cults are typified by dogma, meaningless enthusiasm/fears, and a clear perversion of higher concepts into braindead ‘gossip’. In the UK, we have nut-cases called ‘trainspotters’. They make a cult of the UK railway system, but their thoughts do not alter the validity or realities of the actual rail system, or its rolling stock.

      In other words, large numbers of Humans (some of whom may be highly intelligent) can all devote extraordinary amounts of brain power to a subject, but do it in such a way that their mental processes are utterly wasted, or worse, have a clearly illogical consequence.

      Edward Bernays preached the identification and exploitation of such flawed mass mental processes. L. Ron Hubbard created his ‘religion’ of scientology on the back of exactly such observations. Indeed the cult of global warming can be near perfectly compared to scientology (although for many converts, scientology is established enough now to have no more significance than any other established religion, meaning that THEY cannot be fairly called cultists).

      The irony is that the cult of global warming resembles the vast majority of superstitious religious beliefs seen in ‘primitive’ Man, or in more primitive times. Just as people have been, on many occasions, persuaded to vast vast amounts of their time and energy
      ‘ensuring’ the Sun appeared again, or that Summer returned once more, the high priests of ‘global warming’ demand the sacrifice of almost everything to guarantee tomorrow will have the same type of weather as today. As always, the real game is giving the ‘priest’ class maximum control over the lives, minds, and wealth of the sheeple.

      NOW DO YOU QUESTION WHY ANGLO-SAXON NATIONS HAVE BEEN DUMBING DOWN THEIR EDUCATION OF THE SHEEPLE OVER THE LAST THREE DECADES OR SO?

      David Reply:

      VEIN!!! I also doubt the global warming hype but it is BECAUSE scientists have become politicized prostitutes pimped out by special interest groups on both sides of this argument. The payoff is grant money (LOTS OF IT) and donations. Neither you nor I can really KNOW the truth because the “genuine scientist” you refer to is impossible to spot in this sea of charlatans. Please understand that science is imperfect on its best day and often people use “scientific results” like a drunk uses a lamp post…more for support than illumination.

    12. abel chavarria Says:

      GLOBAL WARMING MY BUTT!!! THE ONLY THING WARMING THIS GLOBE ARE THE IDIOTS THAT ARE TRYING TO FOOL EVERYBODY THAT THIS CRAP IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING… BOY THE VACCINES MUST BE DOING IT’S EVIL DEED!!!!!!!

    13. Gavin Veasey Says:

      Amazing information.

    14. SomeGuy Says:

      Yeah well let’s still not be selfish, better-off-dead people who care nothing for pollutants, eh?

    15. Brian Says:

      Earlier on I sent this article to the Irish Green Party, here is there (typical) response…Dear Mr Casey,
      Thank you for your email. As the National Geographic article you highlighted states: “The melt would be mostly symbolic—thicker ice, pushed against the Canadian continental shelf by weather and Earth’s rotation, would still survive the summer. Recent models suggest that the Arctic won’t see its first completely ice-free summer until somewhere between 2013 and 2030.”

      No one was predicting the Arctic would be ice free this year. Climate is an extremely complex area of research with thousands of factors interacting to produce results which are in themselves difficult to assess. Alex Jones and the people at Prison Planet have their own agenda to push, as much as those who maintain that human activity is altering our climate.

      Kind regards

      Ed Davitt
      Administrative Assistant
      The Green Party / Comhaontas Glas
      16/17 Suffolk Street
      Dublin 2
      Ireland
      Tel: +353 1 6790012
      Fax: +353 1 6797168

      I think that everyone should email this article to them, and other global-warming truth articles.

      Brian.

    16. Thought Police Says:

      At least they know of Alex Jones existence…

    17. George Hayduke Says:

      Ground level ozone is real.

    18. egg on face Says:

      i know how you feel, personally ive seen one of the coolest summers in my memory. Most of the people bitching about “Global warming” Live in places with naturally hot weather.

    19. MARIA Says:

      I don’t understand why it’s showing NO ice on Google Earth. The only ice it shows is on Greenland. I mean who do you believe ?, is there or isn’t there any fucken ICE. What the hell is going on !!!!!!!

    20. Thought Police Says:

      Earlier on I sent this article to the Irish Green Party, here is there (typical) response…Dear Mr Casey,
      Thank you for your email. As the National Geographic article you highlighted states: “The melt would be mostly symbolic—thicker ice, pushed against the Canadian continental shelf by weather and Earth’s rotation, would still survive the summer. Recent models suggest that the Arctic won’t see its first completely ice-free summer until somewhere between 2013 and 2030.”

      No one was predicting the Arctic would be ice free this year. Climate is an extremely complex area of research with thousands of factors interacting to produce results which are in themselves difficult to assess. Alex Jones and the people at Prison Planet have their own agenda to push, as much as those who maintain that human activity is altering our climate.

      Kind regards

      Ed Davitt
      Administrative Assistant
      The Green Party / Comhaontas Glas
      16/17 Suffolk Street
      Dublin 2
      Ireland
      Tel: +353 1 6790012
      Fax: +353 1 6797168

      I think that everyone should email this article to them, and other global-warming truth articles.

      Brian.

    21. Anthony Says:

      now ot be fair e have to think if we actaully saw real ice like was was already on the actic grow it would be different bbut we didn’t see the ice itself grow we saw 2 differnet colors take up differnt spots on the map this video could have easly doctored. i not saying the people here at prisonplanet.com are lieing just like their tell u on this web site don’t belive everything u read,hear or see. and i do thatnk Alex Jones and everyone else at prisonplanet.com for giving us some gray in a blakc and white world. thank you

    22. Thought Police Says:

      Earlier on I sent this Prison Planet article to the Irish Green Party, here is their (typical) response…

      “Dear Mr Casey,
      Thank you for your email. As the National Geographic article you highlighted states: “The melt would be mostly symbolic—thicker ice, pushed against the Canadian continental shelf by weather and Earth’s rotation, would still survive the summer. Recent models suggest that the Arctic won’t see its first completely ice-free summer until somewhere between 2013 and 2030.”

      “No one was predicting the Arctic would be ice free this year. Climate is an extremely complex area of research with thousands of factors interacting to produce results which are in themselves difficult to assess. Alex Jones and the people at Prison Planet have their own agenda to push, as much as those who maintain that human activity is altering our climate.”

      Kind regards

      Ed Davitt
      Administrative Assistant
      The Green Party / Comhaontas Glas”

      Brian.

    23. Anthony Says:

      ummm u can’t just belive this on just this one article there are many more studies saying that global warming is happening then there are that say it that nothing is happening open your eyes its the same people that run everything that ruin our planet! don’t be stupid this video is fake anyone with a map program can do that don’t be fucking stupid this is made by people that say it isn’t real! LMAO just think who those ppl are! the very same people that prisonplanet.com and infowars.com hate. the US goverment GOD U PEOPLE ARE JUST FUCKING STUPID!

    24. Wally Says:

      http://video.google.com/videop.....e%3A+recut

    25. Steve Says:

      Can someone really think that all the pollutants made in our world the last 100 or so years have done no damage to our planet??? To me it’s common sense, maybe not the whole ‘Global Warming’ thing, but there’s no way we are in better shape from all these toxins. Just think about it, the earth never had some of these chemicals polluting before 150 years ago….and now everywhere you look humans drive, fly, produce new agents that are deadly to contact, that can’t be better for the Earth….

    26. Cliff Says:

      I think some people are just too weak to admit that they are wrong about something, Anthony being one of them.

      ‘Man Made’ climate change is nothing more than a tax rising, red tape pushing control mechanism of a scam, pushed by control freaks in the US AND OTHER GOVERNMENTS.

      If the PRIVATE central banks weren’t starting a ‘carbon credits’ trading exchange system to manipulate and profit from and all life on earth wasn’t carbon based, then I might believe the myth that man is causing climate change. Until then, I’ll go where all the real evidence lies – the sunspot cycles that caused the little ice age and probably all the other major climate changes in Earth’s 4 billion year history.

    27. Ken Hall Says:

      Only in “global warming world” would the fact that ice is increasing and polar bear numbers exploding be reason to add polar bears to the “threatened species list”

    28. ravenscull Says:

      After looking at this site and all of the other evidence given to us through various other polititions, oops sorry i actually mean “experts” I and many others must be pooping in our little nik naks.I mean seriously folks all this extra ice,is it not obviously caused by GLOBAL WARMING. All this extra carbon dioxide[ is that not the stuff plants breath ] I have heard from some very stupid scientific folk that it is actually a by-product of global warming, meaning that it increases after GLOBAL WARMING.I dont know people,I mean, who would be silly enough to listen to real experts when it is so obvious our polititions [who would never lie to us honest] are of course right. Truly,it absolutly has nothing to do with making money off the backs of the worlds poor and middle classes by introducing green taxes and other ingenious other green contraptions. No we are in real danger!!! Real danger of having these same “DECEIVERS IN CHARGE” blowing the shit out of us and every thing else.I dont know if they know this but once they do the evil deed [AND THEY WILL] GLOBAL WARMING,that thing we have now,is gonna feel like the ice age. Not only that[ and this is only a guess mind you ]these “people” obviously thrive on extremely high levels of radiation because once they are done,thats all we will have to eat,that is assuming of course we arnt turned into crispy critters.Global warming? Oh yes, I nearly forgot,silly me,once they are done they will be able to say………TOLD YOU SO!!!!!!

    29. Jim Says:

      VISIT “PROPHECIES.ORG AND HISMAILROOM.COM” FOR UNDERSTANDING!!!!!

    30. 911 Truth Says:

      Arctic Sea Ice Refreezes at Record Pace After Record Melt
      http://www.thedailygreen.com/e.....e-47121205

      I for one am more likely to believe that there is a global warming phenomenon. Having a formal education (fire science) on how sensitive the atmosphere really is (i.e. the ban of certain Halon extinguishers and specific Freon refrigerant), I could see how the scientists could be correct on most of it.

      Now, could such data be manipulated and used to support a less than honorable agenda? Hell ya! Does that debunk the data for me, not really. I am a staunch supporter and follower of Alex and friends, however I feel this story may have been only a half-truth, since of course preceding the “record freeze” there was a record melt. This is not to say that the “records” only go back a short time as per satellite imaging compared to the existence of polar ice caps.

      Chemtrails are also phenomenon that had me wondering if there was a government cover-up about global warming. If chemtrails were in actuality a “global cooling” mechanism the reason for such secrecy would make sense. They couldn’t admit its use or subsequently have to admit evidence and belief themselves that global warming was actually occurring.

    31. Anthony Says:

      thank you 911 truth and if that is YOUR video your in my prayers. i hope u win

    32. J.E.P. Says:

      Man-made global warming is still a theory. But by introducing small amounts of chemicals and even organic agents into an ecosystem can drastically alter it so we should proceed with caution. Stand next to some traffic, breathe deeply, and then complain about the polar ice caps. Makes no sense.

    33. Anthony Says:

      cliff to much pro-global warming papers,studies,excetra has come out to completly debunk global warming. and u have to admit that because of the green house gases WE have put out has effected the world in someway and useing them can’t be good for the world in the long run.and again the same ppl that say global warming isn’t true is the US congress and most oil companies! your stupid to think that it dose nothing and to say fuck al gore is wrong atleast he TRYING to help weather or not u belive in global warming u can atleast see that al gore is tryin to help.
      (sorry for the spelling errors i don’t spell so well)

    34. Ken Hall Says:

      Using the argument that the AGW cultists used late last summer when the ice was at a 30 year low (reported as the least amount of ice on record, falsely implying the least amount of ice in history) then this 30% increase in ice over one year surely is a sign of the world heading towards catastrophic cooling is it not?

      I shall explain. As the AGW cult warned, the decrease in ice meant that there was less ice surface to reflect heat back into space and therefore the melted sea ice water (being darker) would absorb more heat and INCREASE the melting… an on-going tragedy in the making apparently. Every year there was to be less and less ice until there would be NO ice at all in the summer, killing all the polar bears.

      IF their argument was valid for decreasing ice, surely the counter-case is also valid. More ice = more heat reflected, less heat absorbed and therefore more and more ice. This should lead to continuous cooling and a severe ice age covering the agricultural lands and cities destroying all world trade and devastating humanity everywhere.

      I have one teeny weeny problem with this. Using their theory, HOW did less ice last year make more ice this year? According to the hysterical alarmists, there is no mechanism for reversing temperature other than reducing CO2 and yet the global increases in CO2 has continued unabated.

      So, what gives? From the point of view of the AGW cultists, what mechanism is in play that allows for global warming to switch to global cooling WITHOUT reducing CO2? And why is this mechanism MISSING from the IPCC endorsed computerised climate models?

      No, it couldn’t be, could it? Could the AGW cultist’s theories be…………….WRONG???? GASP, SHOCK, HORROR!!!

      It just so happens that real climatologists have discovered and have known for a long time what mechanism triggers ice ages and ends them too. Guess what? CO2 is NOT the trigger!

    35. zbigview Says:

      If you believe in man-made-global-warming, ask yourself the question why nowadays politicians all talk about “Climate change” instead of global warming.

    36. zbigview Says:

      Making humans the enemy of humanity and the planet, is creating a feeling of guilt in the conscience of the masses, so they can be manipulated in giving up almost anything…
      my 2 cents.

    37. New World Liberty Says:

      awesome. i hope those polar bears can find water to swim in.

    38. Cliff Says:

      Anthony,

      We are in a CO2 & Oxygen starved stage of the planet’s history. More CO2 means more vegetation, more food and more oxygen. CO2 IS a LIFE GIVING compound.

      REAL ENVIROMENTALISTS fight toxic water pollution, GMO crops, cross species genetic mixing, not CO2 – because they KNOW it is an essentail eliment for life.

      Your cussing and blinding doesn’t show you to be a cleaver person Anthony. It showes you to be more a of frustrated idtiot who can’t accept when they are wrong.

      As for oil companies and governments, they benefit more than anyone from carbon taxes / red tape controles and the higher prices of oil, so don’t give me that fake left right political paradigm nonsence. Grow up and see the wider picture.

    39. Dave Dragon Says:

      You mean to tell me that Mister “The Sky Is Falling” (Al Gore) was wrong? No, Say it isn’t so!

      The man created the Internet and received a Nobel Prize on Global Warming.

      LOL!

      The Earth Heals Itself, always has, always will.

      -Dave

    40. birgit Says:

      Al moron mouth gore..is very quiet right now.
      Could it be the coolest summer in 10 years???????
      Gore needs to move to mars, it’s a lot hotter there, thinking people might believe him then….

    41. Art Says:

      We should make Al Gore eat his tie.

    42. joseph Says:

      This is a classic case of double think. You’re told that the problem is the earth getting too hot, and it’s actually getting colder from the lack of sunspots. Up is down we will soon be told, evil is good. A slave that has no sense, of direction or otherwise, is very easy to keep a slave.

    43. Tim Says:

      What’s next? Al Gore is going to start screaming about global cooling and ask everyone to start burning tires and will ask people to fart more to heat the earth up. The guy is talentless hack who represents the other enlightended global warming morons. Its an absolute disgrace. I want more snow! Bring on the Ica Age!

    44. pimp daddy Says:

      haha awesome. can i have my nobel prize for lying to everyone about the environment also? hmmm and i’m so glad gore did invent the internet. makes it much easier to remind everyone that he’s still feeding on the blood of the innocent. stay warm out there ;)

    45. Joesph McCarthy Says:

      Did Al Gore Invent the Internet?

      http://www.perkel.com/politics/gore/internet.htm

      A question of trust, eh?

    46. Vierotchka Says:

      This ice growth is quite insignificant because it is so thin, it is just thin surface ice.

    47. LipMcNip Says:

      Vierotchka, if the sun has been hot enough to melt all that ice or the alleged greenhouse gases have been strong enough to cause a melt and this is a progressively worsening condition, how in the world are the caps able to “REFREEZE” ice in the first place then??????

    48. Notborn Yesterday Says:

      Hi Vierotchka, thin it may be (is it?), but apparently it wasn’t there at all last year. Either the 30% increase or the 1,000,000 sq km of it in the antarctic. Mm, interesting thought… a million square km of “thin” ice being “insignificant”. In a sense though, given our knowledge of the cycles of warming and cooling that the Earth has been through in the last few hundred years I guess it is.

      We also now find that temperatures have actually been falling since 2002. How insignificant do you think that might be?

      Probably insignificant enough not to stop the “carbon taxes”. Incidentally, who do you think will gain financially through the carbon taxes? Don’t waste too much time thinking about that one. Its insignificant.

      By the way, birgit, its insignificant but although Mars and Jupiter are both experiencing global warming (for goodness sakes don’t let the Martians find out WE are responsible!), Mars is cooler, not warmer than Earth. If you really want to fry Al, send him to Venus. Cheaper to send him via his internet to cyberspace though (with the help of a little …”ice”… of course) *grin*

    49. asdf93248 Says:

      Haha this is hillarious. I sent it to all my co-workers.

    50. Shawn Says:

      Damn reality getting in the way of “science”

    51. Scorpion081 Says:

      Maria:

      GOOD OBSERVATION!!! OMFG!!!

      GOOGLE.COM is most definitely practicing the WORST kind of intellectual dishonesty! This is great!!! How about flooding GOOGLE’s admins with emails about this ungodly garbage. I saved a copy of the ’satellite?’ view of the North Polar region. They have about as much credibility as WIKIPEDIA ( with the mysterious re-edits and so on … ) that amounts to exactly NIL!

      Great work Maria!!!

      -JSSmith

    52. Joss Says:

      I have some ice in my freezer. I can pack it up and send it to the poles. If everyone in the world did this we could build up the polar ice in no time… especially if you buy one of those really powerful freezers with a really low star rating- c’mon people we can solve it from a grass roots level!!

    53. Paulson is an idiot Says:

      The reason confusion like this happens is because Science has turned into a truncated pop-culture cult of statistics and computer model worship.

      As we are finding out, this nonsense does not work for meteorology or economics.

      In fact, computer models were horrible at determining the physics of mini-vans on the road. This caused many of them to flip over unexpectedly while turning.

      Science is not about number crunching, it is about principles of physics and reality. The weather is a perfect example of a dynamic process that can only be forecast in general long term trends.

      Even a computer 5 million times faster than today’s fastest would not be able to predict the weather. Therefore, computer models are useless for this. Yet this is what Al Gore hangs his hat on.

    54. Peter Duffy Says:

      Maria says “I don’t understand why it’s showing NO ice on Google Earth. The only ice it shows is on Greenland. I mean who do you believe ?, is there or isn’t there any fucken ICE. What the hell is going on !!!!!!!”

      hahahahahaha! Considering how angry you are I m asure there is no ice in your pants! hahahahahahaha! LMAO

    55. Peter Duffy Says:

      Al Gore is a c*nt. He would spin this to say “Obviously when it gets hotter it gets colder very soon after”.

    56. jonny Says:

      stupid fools think they know it all ..they think they are little gs gods Al Gore the real loser to Bush a guy that can’t even win a war with people that have nothing ..the people that have nothing will be first to be with the father in Heaven

    57. Giant Shadows Says:

      crisis, what crisis..
      Are we too stupid to know bullshit anymore?
      the sky is falling, send us a few billion and we will fix it…
      Stop being stupid-
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1V5iCUBEUx4
      God bless america(even the stupid ones)
      GS

    58. Gerthy Says:

      Al Gore not only invented the internet but he defeated man bear pig- common people the guys a freaking hero!

    59. Tivana Says:

      Growth of the ice cap? This story is missing one important measurement – the thickness of the ice.

      The ice that was lost was thick – ancient ice is gone and now there is a thin one year expansion of thin ice. This is hardly building up a glacier of ice.
      The quantity of ice is a fraction of what it was.

      The good news though is this ice will reflect more sun back into space and the warmth of the rays will not go into heating the water.

      Peace out,

      M

    60. michaelm Says:

      zbigview said; August 19,2008, “If you believe in man-made-global-warming, ask yourself the question why nowadays politicians all talk about “Climate change” instead of global warming.”
      *
      Spot on, it’s called wiggle room. The fact that they had made the quiet transition quite a time back shows that they know that they were wrong, but to prevent being flagrantly caught out they have bought time with this sleight of hand, but they don’t know how to make the further rhetorical transition, ie, Climate Change to Global Cooling, without being reminded by one and all that they are the very ones who were on about Global Warming in the first place preparing us for the govt sponsored fraud of the Carbon Credits Trading Scheme or Emissions Trading Scheme.

      We know of credibility gaps, but this will morph into an abyss into which they will disappear along with the NWO Establishment without whose all spectrum media, scientific and govt support the Global Warming mongers could not have existed.

    61. Jim Says:

      Global Cooling was all the rage in the mid-70’s.

      Check out this article from Newsweek from the period: denisdutton . com/newsweek_coolingworld.pdf

      And see how many cooling and warming scares there have been in the past: businessandmedia . org/specialreports/2006/fireandice/fireandice.asp

      (remove the spaces)

    62. David Says:

      I’m posting this on August 20, 2008. In the Register article, they have a link to the ice extent graph from August 11:

      http://nsidc.org/images/arctic.....igure2.png

      Compare it to the current graph:

      http://nsidc.org/data/seaice_i.....series.png

      The point that the ice extent was at on 8-11 has changed. It increased slightly.

    63. chantix Says:

      great post! thanks for this.

    64. Jock Doubleday Says:

      Paul’s screw is loose — as usual on this subject. :)

      What an ass.

      Alex, could your boy Paul please find something else to do, besides waste everybody’s time with his idiocy?

      I’ve refuted all of his points in many previous comments answering Paul’s lame-brained, pseudo-science bunk — comments to which he has never replied. I’m sick of Paul’s stupidity. At least his brother Steve has the sense to stay away from subjects he knows nothing about.

      In common sense, science, and observation,

      Jock Doubleday
      Director
      Natural Woman, Natural Man, Inc.
      A California 501(c)3 nonprofit corporation
      http://www.SpontaneousCreation.org
      director@spontaneouscreation.org

    65. HEROZ Says:

      Man, I love reading all of your great comments! Even the haters!

      I live in California where there has been the driest summer in years. There also have been chemtrails that grid the sky at least once a week this whole year.

      I would personally rather deal with “Global Warming”, “Global Cooling”, man made or not than have governments and corporations testing weather manipulation across the planet. Who gives these people the right to do this?

      I believe in human ingenuity and the fact that humans have adapted well to almost every climate on Earth. The consensus is not in, obviously. We should all direct our energy on this subject toward stopping corporate and government weather manipulation.

    66. Mike In Austin Says:

      There is less ice because of the past warming. But the water is freezing again because the earth is now cooling. How can you say the earth is getting hotter if ice is growing? Let me break it down for youse guys who insist on bad science. More ice=colder. Less ice=warmer. If ice grew in the last year, then it got colder. DUH.

    67. adam Says:

      great article

    68. Andrew Says:

      Jock Doubleday

      What are you arguing against? The NASA Marshall Space Flight Center data is incorrect Paul is highlighting you to?

      Can you not see the comparison between the two and the increase in ice coverage which is clearly shows? It’s the same type of image that is used to “prove” global warming!

      It sounds as if you have a vested interest in this data not becoming widely known as you automatically try and attack the arthurs caractor rather than the facts he’s presenting from Nasa data! You also ask his boss to stop him reporting on these facts!

      P.S. Sunspot activity has been almost zero recently!

    69. Heteon Says:

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    70. A.Lien Says:

      I love the fact that the planet will survive and evolution will continue, regardless of what our tiny irrelevant species tries to do to it :)

    71. A.Lien Says:

      Just think.. If there are ever award ceremonies in the future, our species might get recognised as the crappiest. Try to imagine the possibilities if we didn’t win?.. a species WORSE than us? Mad.

    72. DodgaDoga Says:

      Ever notice how Alex Jones always has something to sell.
      Sure, you can have a taste of some free vid, but if you want
      to really chase the dragon, you’re gonna pay. All major credit
      cards accepted!

    73. Herman Says:

      The man-made global warming hoax has been exposed.

      Amazing to see these gullible fools now turn into demonic liars so as to maintain their allegiance to the lie.

    74. llDarkAngelxl Says:

      I was reading many posts here and for those who still believe in Global Warming and for those who think that This is the ONLY article in reference to Global Cooling, are in fact the fools. Science and history of weather patterns including those who study the layers of the earth (And north america is one big block of ice age phenomina)AKA: THE CANADIAN SHIELD- there has already been scientific evidence that also supports this article from YEARS back! Its amazing how people believe in Al Gores Hype, did you see his WALLET lately??

      There is plenty of REAL Scientific Evidence and PROOF to back it up verses the Junk Science the dumbed down are biting into.

      Also, it has in fact been getting cooler if you actually PAID attention to the YEARS passing you by. More snow at winter etc etc…odd weather patterns…does it need to be spelled out in crayon for people to step out and do some serious research on their own?

      Here are some references for those who want to believe that CO2 is a cause for global warming (laughing really hard) WE ARE MADE OF CO2!! Students here in Canada even KNOW This.

      http://www.canadafreepress.com.....020507.htm

      And here is some from WIKIPEDIA http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_cooling

      http://www.politickernj.com/bg.....sponse-act

      Not only that, it amazes me that people on here who commented would knock down a valid SCIENTIST who has MANY more to back him up with REAL true Scientific Evidence…You do realize they measure the Oceans degrees right and the activity of Sun levels?

      It’s amazing what people will do to create MORE TAXES and a larger income bracket for their over-sized wallets. Its funny how the Polar Bear news dropped like a fly from a few years back from apparent global warming tactics, oh and guess what, we still have Polar bears roaming the earth up here in Canada…Amazing that!

      Hadley Climate Center HadAT2 Data shows global cooling in the last year ….. instead of scientific discussions of observed phenomena; http://wattsupwiththat.wordpre.....last-year/

      I suppose if I say that you need to stop breathing so our earth can cool off you would believe that too!

      “Useless Eaters” indeed, sometimes the Elites are right, aren’t they?? (sarcasm)

      Peace!

    75. Mike Knows Says:

      There are more bears now than there ever were before.
      The Zionist controlled media and education has been lying about everything the last 50 years. The truth is always the opposite of what they say. Nobody believes the media any more, it pumps out constant lies, and most of the war stuff is fabricated by actors to make you believe it’s real. The best thing you can do is change the channel or turn off the tube… and do not buy the products they advertise. The news is fake and fabricated and it always has been. The elections and the government is also fake and has been since the 1960’s. Nobody believes any of it any more, and the Zionists running the show aren’t smart enough to realize that they have been exposed and that it is in fact them who are stupid.. not us.

    76. Jim Says:

      :lol:

      PWNED by the last 2 weeks.

    77. job Says:

      why are you haters of zionist? oh yeah, because you are listening to and believe uneducated people on the subject they speak about and profess to be experts………but at least alex is likeable. you are the problem because you choose to believe in fallacy to make yourself feel better? face the facts, you are not using scientific methodology because you doubt the scientists….ALL OF THEM? come on use logic and common sense, not fear…….but oh yeah, that is how they control the masses esp organized religion……..is that the root of your belief system? you cant have it both ways guys……..can you get consistent? You want the truth, but only if you agree with it……..There can be conspiracy and truth in science. Do you have the ability to think about more than one thing at a time?

    78. Michael Says:

      Here is a good example of propaganda:

      This website has an article by some nobody who claims that climate change is a
      hoax. He tries to convince the reader that Arctic ice is growing, not decreasing

      http://www.prisonplanet.com/ar.....-year.html

      In the article he states ” According to collated data from the NASA Marshall
      Space Flight Center and the University of Illinois, Arctic ice extent was 30 per
      cent greater on August 11, 2008 than it was on the August 12, 2007

      However, research at both the NASA Marshall Space Flight Center and University
      of Illinois, both respected research facilities, state the opposite position.
      Arctic ice is decreasing.

      http://www.nasa.gov/centers/go.....tdown.html
      http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/

    79. EcoloTrader Says:

      It’s a joke !
      in the same time, we can read the scientifics of the European space agency …
      Pehaps this person didn’t read exactly a cart…and the date ???

      http://www.ecolo-trader.fr/La-.....tc-149.php

      CRASY !?

    80. ken Says:

      The same idiot politicians and scientists who will not admit 9/11 was an inside job are playing the Liberal Global Warming Hoax.

      You Global Warming idiots will not look at the historical data just as the fascist war mongerers wont look at the 9/11 data.

      Warmth = Life
      Cold = Death

      When there is more CO2 and warmth then plants and life thrive.

      The Sun is the ONLY thing that provides heat and energy to our ENTIRE Solar System you stupid stupid fear mongerers. Withgout the Sun we would not even have planets or a solar system you idiots.

    81. Hu Says:

      Michael, The Arctic Ice Meltdown article from NASA is dated sept.13 2006

    82. John Says:

      Watch at the 2nd video. It’s labeled “Arctic Ice from Sept. 1979 to Oct. 2007″.

      Now tell us again that the amount of ice in the Artic is not decreasing. Of Course it’s decreasing. The last image from Oct 2007 shows almost NO ice. And are you looking at the thick / permanent ice or only the seasonal thin ice??

      Look at the long term trend and not just a short term blip before you start making policy changing predictions. Of course the Ice is thinning. Watch your own video for evidence!!

    83. John Says:

      Pardon me please..

      It’s not the 2nd video. I clicked on the YouTub links at the bottom of the viewer window.

      Please see this video:
      Arctic Ice from Sept. 1979 to Oct. 2007
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xr4CKJ4kH5U

    84. Justin Says:

      I finally figured out the Prison Planet / Alex Jones agenda… develop a conspiracy for EVERY scenerio. Seriously, Global Warming is just a ploy from the Government to get tax $?? And Gore’s interest/motivation in getting the government tax $ is??

      For all of you people who think that Global Warming is not a) real, and b) a problem, move to Venus (or just study up on it). That ‘harmless’ gas we exhale has cooked that planet to the point that metal probes last only minutes.

      For the record, I don’t buy the official story on 9/11, but I don’t understand why we are even debating Climate Change? I think we should error on the side of caution here, because there are two outcomes here:

      1. It’s too late, we destroy our atmosphere, and thus the human civilazation.
      2. It was never a problem to begin with, but we become a more efficient species, and less wastefull.

      Going through the motions as if Climate Change were real is a win/win situation.

    85. DirtBag Says:

      retards, i live in canada, the north is way fukin warmer than it ever was. we barely get snow anymore. maybe try discussing antarctic ice flow. its almost gone.

    86. Mark Says:

      Hmm, I’m in Canada and it’s snowing right now. How does living in Canada make you an expert in Antarctic ice flow? I think you have your poles mixed up

    87. SlyCanuck Says:

      To #95. I’m not sure where you get the information that everyone are retards. And secondly, I have absolutely no clue where you get the information that it’s way “fukin” warmer than it ever was. In fact, it’s been colder in Canada, and throughout the world this past year.

      One last thing, we barely get snow anymore? Are you kidding me, we had the biggest snowfall since 1978 past winter in the Capital region and for the whole of Ontario and Quebec.

      If that doesn’t dissuade you: just last night, we had 32 centimeters of snow in Ottawa. To make sure everyone understands that’s just about 13 inches of snow in 24 hours.

      So, please, get that head out of the sand (or the snow if you really are in Canada, and judging by your comment you probably are not), and face the truth: Global Warming is not happening. Here’s one tip that might clue you in also, they changed Global Warming to Climate Change… how fitting for an agenda to tax the people or the world for breathing out the “Oh so dangerous CO2 gases”, or to actually be able to sustain themselves by having their own farm.

      Wake up and face the truth. And I will end on this note : Denying the truth does not make it any less true.

    88. Glenn Says:

      Money! show me the Money!

      A government scientist claims that his superiors are silencing his public statements on global warming. Well, as the debate rages, we find that there really are two kinds of “scientists.”

      There are those who look at facts and make their judgements based on what they know.

      Their findings can be matched by any other scientist, using the same data and set of circumstances to reach the same conclusions. It’s a age-old practice called peer reviewing. It’s the only true science.

      And then there are those who yearn for a certain outcome and set about creating the needed data to make it so. Usually you will find this group of scientists greatly dependent on grants supplied by those with a specific political agenda who demand desired outcomes for their money.

      They have faith only in themselves. They thus betray that they have learned nothing from man’s recorded history. They are proud. They have not learned the wisdom and the rightness of the inspired advice of long ago: “Do not put your trust in nobles, nor in the son of earthling man, to whom no salvation belongs. His spirit goes out, he goes back to his ground, in that day his thoughts do perish.”—Ps. 146:3, 4.

    89. Providence Divine Says:

      In December of 08 I was in Wisconsin, that is to say last winter. All the locals in the town I lived in (Stevens Point) said that the snowfall they had that year was the most they had received in 20 years. But if the sun shines bright in the sky and the local News tells us its night time, the sheeple would accept without much fuss the authority of the corporate SINdicated propogandists… I mean media…

    90. REPENT Says:

      Just a note: the word percent in the name of the article is one word, not two.
      As far as the subject, i am not surprised. there is more evidence against than for global warming.

    91. Khalil Says:

      As much as I want to believe that “climate change” is a fabrication, I do believe that human beings are damaging this planet, through unsustainable lifestyle activities.

      However, I do agree that there is alot of scaremongering that goes on and we need to weigh up all scientific findings objectively, without agenda!

      With regard to the ice caps, I think this article is mistaken. The article below (ref: AFP – NASA) says that it is the area of “perrenial” ice that is reducing in size & that this is what we should be concerned about.

      http://afp.google.com/article/.....AEGV5W0pqg

      On a seperate point, I read recently on medialens that “carbon capture” technology (put forward by power companies as a solution to the worlds problems) is not even technologically possible and probably won’t be for many years. It is just their way of continuing to make huge profits, whilst fooling the general populous that they are solving the problem of climate change.

    92. Guy Says:

      Khalil,

      That NASA article is out of date. The findings from the Register’s article indicates the following, and I quote “below shows that Arctic ice extent was 30 per cent greater on August 11, 2008 than it was on the August 12, 2007″. Whatever findings were released by NASA came before the disappearance of sunspots in May of this year, which is roughly around the time the earth’s temperature according to the University of Alabam’s temperature graphs, indicated that global temperatures have begun to drop.

      I agree with you however, that we are having a profound effect on this planet through our deforestation and polluting of the environment via real pollutants such as Mercury, Lead, Arsenic, SO2 and so on… but not CO2. I will never be convinced of that, the science is nowhere near concrete. HOWEVER, if someone in these forums can come forward with relevant proof that CO2 is the culprit, I am more than open minded to check it out. But i’m not gonna give credibility to findings coming from a guy who’s usage of electricity per year exceeds 130 000 Kilowatts for his mansion alone. (Gore).

      Keep on keepin’ on though guys.

    93. Steve Says:

      We are only looking at the topological map….the ice sheet has been thinning consistently and is verified by ships measuring the thickness of the ice shelf. However I don’t believe man is the cause of the warming trend with his CO2 emissions. When Mt Pinatubo can emit as much pollution in one day of eruption as tens of thousands of years of mankind……we aren’t as important as we think. Our footprint is real, but it is being over stated to win elections and sell newspapers.

      What we have to this planet will come back to haunt us in other ways. We have wiped out 90% of the species on this planet with our agriculture. We have changed the infra red signature of the planet by changing the plant species. This species extinction event will be recorded in the soil for future generations to see. We’ve already done it, it isn’t something we can prevent because it already happened. How will it hurt us? Who knows. We have left ourselves vulnerable to a blight or disease. A corn, wheat or rice blight for instance. We have become so heavily dependent on a few species that we have cultivated and fertilized……..that when one of them is wiped out by some new strain of virus or insect…..we will lose a significant fraction of our food supply. This could lead to war…..even nuclear war. Where we need to focus environmental policy is where it can make a difference. We have clear data on species extinction. Our efforts should be directed towards crop diversity. We are hooked on corn and rice. If we lose one……we will be in a real world of hurt…..and this sort of stuff comes on fast….unlike global warming which takes decades, a crop failure would have immediate impact world wide. Why would a new bug come along that eats corn? Gee….I don’t know….maybe because we carpeted North America with the stuff and bugs gotta eat too.

    94. Sense Says:

      US Constitution Is Not Inspired By Divinity

      It’s striking that so few truly understand the basis of our Constitution. Arguments that the Constitution is somehow a divinely-inspired document show either a lack of education as to the ideas and principles behind the tenets of the document, or a deliberate attempt to pervert the true intent of the philosophies behind the Constitution. In no way are the Constitution or the Bill of Rights Christian documents. The philosophical underpinnings of each of these documents stem from Locke and Cooke, primarily Locke.

      Read the rest – http://beholdtheforce.blogspot.com/

    95. Dawn Says:

      One of the source articles for this article was written by Steven Goddard on the Register.
      The link above reading “reports The Register” leads to this path on the Register:
      /2008/08/15/goddard_arctic_ice_mystery/
      which has a note of retraction down at the bottom by the editor, saying that the 30% figure is incorrect. Not only that, Steven Goddard himself admitted that he made a mistake on “Watts Up With That” dot com at
      /2008/08/15/arctic-ice-extent-discrepancy-nsidc-versus-cryosphere-today/

      After explaining why he got different numbers, Steven says, “My apologies to Dr. Meiers and Dr. Serreze, and NSIDC. Their analysis, graphs and conclusions were all absolutely correct. Arctic ice is indeed melting nearly as fast as last year, and this is indeed troubling.
      - Steven Goddard”

      What I find amusing is that the article was used at all for a source article by Paul Watson, since the retraction was already there when this article pointed to it. Apparently Paul didn’t take the time to re-read this source article. Normally Paul is very accurate.

      I’m not saying that I believe in the theory of global warming, I’m only pointing out that the basis for Paul’s article here is admitting an error.

      Karmakaze Reply:

      Normally Paul is very accurate? What friggin planet are you from? The guy has not written a single article that wasn’t full of lies or errors.

      You even proved it yourself and you still kiss his ass. What a fucking retard you are.

    96. rats Says:

      @108

      Its called controlled media, of course he had to retract it, he would have lost his job, and probably has little integrity.

      So did the arctic ice disappear as predicted or not? I think you know the answer, and I don’t think you need some media outlet to tell you either.

    97. RSOpen Says:

      If the Arctic Ice increased by 30% from Aug 2007 to Aug 2008, how come the top picture – side by side 2007 and 2008 – doesn’t show it? Isn’t that the reason for the picture? Most of what I assume is the Arctic appears, in the picture, to be maintaining temperatures ranging from 60 to 100 degrees F. According to the chart, yellow is 40 and blue is below and I see almost no yellow or blue – so what is this a picture of?

      Karmakaze Reply:

      Its actually a picture of sea ice coverage. The colours show the various levels of coverage in each area. So for example a 1 square kilometer area may be half covered in ice and half open ocean, and this is marked as and orange colour.

      This is why these liars made this mistake in the first place. They assumed that every coloured pixel meant that that area was totally covered in ice. Now that you know what the colours mean, have another look at the maps. You will see that the relative areas of 90-100 percent ice coverage DECREASED. Thus there was less actual ice in the later map!

      Everyone involved knew this, from the original author all the way to this Watson idiot – how do I know? Easy, if you get hold of the ORIGINAL comparison image (not the one they shrank) you will clearly see the title and the key that these liars didn’t want you to see!

    98. ignert Says:

      I can’t say one way or the other if there is in fact going to be global warming or global cooling on neither, but I can say this. I look out at my pond and some mornings it has ice on it and then in the afternoon it is gone. There this silly little scientific fact that ice freezes and thaws at a certain temperature. So how can you look at new ice growth and think, all is well. It could all be gone in a week, or double in size again. As has been stated, it is the thickness that would matter in this debate, not the square footage.

    99. Mad Says:

      Global warming is a real, but normal, part of the earth’s (and solar system’s) climate dynamics. I’ve lived in northern California for 34 years, or nearly half my life, and I can attest to the fact that summers here have gotten perceptibly warmer in the last decade. People in these parts started installing air conditioners after living for decades without one. The trend seems to have reversed now and things are cooling down. In the process we are getting some weird weather here (late frosts, winter temps swinging back and forth between warm & cold). That may be part of the effect of the climate pendulum reversing and swinging back.

      I’m not so disturbed by the global warming hysteria (and the hysteria is on both sides of the debate!) if it means people being more aware of their consumption habits. Whether we are in a warming or cooling trend, it is imperative that we stop paving over our farmlands, wetlands, and woodlands; that we stop blowing up mountains in West Virginia to feed our demand for cheap energy; that we stop dumping toxic effluvia into our waterways… I could go on, but you get the picture!

      Get a Life Reply:

      I agree, the only issue being we say summer is late this year! It is hot for this month. What we should understand is that the planet does not change per our calender month system. it changes when it is right for it to change itself . We say something is wrong because it is a short time out by our timekeeping. It is right when it is right not when we say so. Parts of Europe were once tropical. Did our evolution and fires bring about the change. Maybe methane discharge off the dinosaurs is to blame. Either way i’m glad they didn’t discover taxation as a way to stop the change or to halt the extinction, otherwise the world might now be a better place. But keep in mind we do still have a few latent dinosaurs in our goverments.

    100. Todd Says:

      I have tertiary syphilis.

    101. jj Says:

      AL Gore is a fucking asshole

      Karmakaze Reply:

      jj is a weak-minded easily manipulated retard.

    102. bobtegner Says:

      The contradiction of “warming causes cooling” is better explained here:

      http://www.gulfstreamshutdown.com/

      where changes in the gulf stream are discussed.
      It’s pretty basic stuff. Warming melts ice into the ocean cooling the currents
      that distribute warm air around the world, triggering global chills.

      Whatever the causes of climate change, only the “interaction model” should be seriously considered. Sunspots to CO2 from all sources and everything between has to be taken into account, putting the whole debate into the chaos realm.

      Too bad it’s become an axe grinding fest!

    103. ConcernedHuman Says:

      To better understand the confusion & corruption humanity is going through, it will be beneficial to read the Quran. Read it for yourself and make up your own mind.
      Dont be manipulated.

      http://www.AllahsQuran.com (read/listen to the Quran)

      http://www.WhatsIslam.com (Islam basics in audio)
      http://www.BibleIslam.com (who was Jesus peace be upon him?)
      http://www.ShareIslam.com (learn about Islam)
      http://www.IslamsWomen.com (70% of new muslims in the west are women, why?)
      http://www.ScienceIslam.com (learn about the scientific revelations in Quran)

      http://www.ChatIslam.com (join free online classes and ask about Islam)

      Peace, mercy & blessings of God be upon you all.


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