CLIFFORD KRAUSS and JAMES DAO
NY Times
Saturday, Nov 7th, 2009
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The local police said that ballistics tests showed there was only one gunman and that none of the casualties had been hit by bullets fired by the police.
But the military and federal investigators pointedly refused to release further details on how the shootings happened, why there were initial reports of multiple attackers and why officials took several hours to correct news media reports that Major Hasan had been killed.
Most significant, officials were not prepared to say whether the attack was the act of a lone and troubled man or connected to terrorist groups, foreign or domestic.
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Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison, Republican of Texas, said Army officials were trying to determine “if there is something more than just one deranged person involved here.”
Ms. Hutchison said in remarks at the base that while Major Hasan was the only one who had opened fire, it was still unclear whether he had planned the attack alone. “That is a question still to be asked,” Ms. Hutchison said. “That is not a question that has been resolved.”
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Whether investigators conclude that Major Hasan acted alone — so that the crime was purely military-on-military — or whether they uncover evidence of any civilian co-conspirators off the base will help determine whether he faces trial by court-martial or in federal court.
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November 7th, 2009 at 4:27 am
a powerful film about jfk and the need for people to be true, very moving a little tear jerking , has a lot of great points and is a must see for freedom lovers http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUY7dl7X_vo
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therealtruethseeker Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 5:18 am
yea, gayfox…..i’m crying my eyes out….give me a freakin’ breal….lol !!!
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Quantummonkeybutt Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 8:03 am
Don’t Mind The Seeker, He’s Just Jealous To Be Such A Cold Hearted & Insecure Bastard That Watching JFK’s Brains Splatter All Over Jackie Doesn’t Make His Eyes Well-Up Or His Blood Boil…
Opening Up To ‘Real Truth’ Means Being Able To Empathize, Not Just Sympathize, Or Feel Nothing At All, With Regards To Others’ Successes And Failures…
Sounds Like You Have A Long, Long Way To Go, Seeker…
QMB
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Richard Kurdt Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 12:03 pm
http://www.allvoices.com/contr.....-vs-israel
Updated report on the US vs. Israel story
Check it out and spread it.
Colonel X Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 6:32 am
Does this ring any bells?
The 9/11 perps’ names were also given in advance as was Lee Harvey Oswald; the FBI always seems to have the names in ‘advance’ but cannot stop these events from going down.
Why?
Because they let them happen. It was a black op set up to further an agenda or policy – like 9/11 – a set up to start a war with Iraq and later Afghanistan. For oil and poppy fields – the Trans- Eurasian pipelina and Caucasas oil is huge. The heroin trade is huge. The banksters are getting rich off these wars, and the Bush, Cheney, Saud and bin Laden families didn’t do half bad either.
Who benefitted?
This probably advances some aspect of a half-wit poilicy to go to war with Iran or at least step up the war. Hassan will probably be shown to be a relative of Achmadinejad or something like that. Remember this: Obama said io his campaign he would end the wars and withdraw all tropps. NOW to change that without any loss of political capital, something has to happen to justify the change. And Gen McChrystal wants more troops for Afgahnistan now. So this was the justification.
Who had the power to cover this up?
Well, let’s start with Gen Cone – God, the guy sounds like Gen Halftrack from Beetle Bailey – but within minutes there was a Crown Vic pulling up with a bunch of suits in it. FBI? CIA? Some other alphabet soup agency? They knew this was going to happen IN ADVANCE – they were just standing by somwhere close. Somebody had/has an op on and they are now covering it up.
The 3 Colonels who came out and spoke – they were saying nothing basically – lots of ‘well we can’t release that information because of an ongoing investigation’. Lots of ‘we can’t release that yet’. That translates to: ‘we are getting our cover story straight and we’ll pass that along later’.
That is all
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Coloenl X Licks Dog cum off faggot boyfriend Reply:
November 8th, 2009 at 12:44 am
Fucking spammer asshole!
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Colonel X Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 6:38 am
Does this ring any bells?
This sounds like the magic bluuet theory all over again. How could one shooter get off that many shots with an FN 5.7 – admittedly it has a 20 shot clip, but where were the MPs?
One of my favorite moivies _ Enemy of the State – WHERE IS THE VIDEOTAPE? They got the tape of the 7/11 store with thsi guy dressed as a jihadist. Where is the videotape of the crime swcene – you can’t tell me there wasn’t one – a location like that had to have security cameras.
The 9/11 perps’ names were also given in advance as was Lee Harvey Oswald; the FBI always seems to have the names in ‘advance’ but cannot stop these events from going down.
Why?
Because they let them happen. It was a black op set up to further an agenda or policy – like 9/11 – a set up to start a war with Iraq and later Afghanistan. For oil and poppy fields – the Trans- Eurasian pipelina and Caucasas oil is huge. The heroin trade is huge. The banksters are getting rich off these wars, and the Bush, Cheney, Saud and bin Laden families didn’t do half bad either.
Who benefitted?
This probably advances some aspect of a half-wit poilicy to go to war with Iran or at least step up the war. Hassan will probably be shown to be a relative of Achmadinejad or something like that. Remember this: Obama said io his campaign he would end the wars and withdraw all tropps. NOW to change that without any loss of political capital, something has to happen to justify the change. And Gen McChrystal wants more troops for Afgahnistan now. So this was the justification.
Who had the power to cover this up?
Well, let’s start with Gen Cone – God, the guy sounds like Gen Halftrack from Beetle Bailey – but within minutes there was a Crown Vic pulling up with a bunch of suits in it. FBI? CIA? Some other alphabet soup agency? They knew this was going to happen IN ADVANCE – they were just standing by somwhere close. Somebody had/has an op on and they are now covering it up.
The 3 Colonels who came out and spoke – they were saying nothing basically – lots of ‘well we can’t release that information because of an ongoing investigation’. Lots of ‘we can’t release that yet’. That translates to: ‘we are getting our cover story straight and we’ll pass that along later’.
That is all
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HEY................THE NAZI HEALTH CARE BILL Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 10:59 am
THEY ARE VOTING ON THE NAZI HEALTH CARE BILL. THE SHOOTINGS ARE A DISTRACTION TO DIVERT YOUR ATTENSION AWAY FROM THE REAL ISSUES. CALL IN TO YOUR STATE REPS AND TELL THEM TO VOTE THIS P.O.S. NAZI TAKE OVER BILL DOWN THREATEN WITH VIOLENCE IF THEY PASS IT THROUGH. IT SEEMS TO BE THE ONLY WAY THEY WILL UNDERSTAND. CALL TODAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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November 7th, 2009 at 5:18 am
american “freedom lovers” aren’t for freedom, they’re only in it for themselves. the freedom to watch incredibility ridiculous tv programs to soothe their empty heads. that’s why they still vote.
i hate to spout an old sinatra tune, “the end is near………..”
have fun believers
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1ts all planned Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 2:37 pm
but hey”we did it MY WAY”!!!
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November 7th, 2009 at 5:44 am
Just another false flag operation. I just knew they would throw out a muslim name at the public. We are not getting the truth at all! This is all by design, to promote terrorism in the USA, and to gain support for the war. Just a fear tactic. Prepare! The urban holocaust will begin soon! Do not fear! They could never beat the American people. They will have to gas us, poison us, or bomb us to get rid of us. We have more guns than the Chinese Army! Just look at what a few people can do by themselves in the biggest military base in the world. Imagine that on a countrywide scale. WE WILL WIN! TYRANNY WILL BE STOPPED! Don’t ever let them convince you to give up your guns! It’s all a mind game!
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1ts all planned Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
joseph:..”they could never beat the american people…” yes, because we watch too much tv !!! Interestingly, having never witnessed combat on american soil in my lifetime, i wonder how americans really will react to ‘war’ here, unless you count 9 eleven as ‘war’, …its funny that , when your neighbor loses HIS job, thats one thing, but when you lose YOURs, well, that something else…. lets hope and pray it does’nt happen , war, that is, but if it does, it probably wont be a’ surgicial” procedure. Lets hope “the pen is mightier than the sword”
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November 7th, 2009 at 6:06 am
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November 7th, 2009 at 7:06 am
Was the Fort Hood Killer a Psychopath or not?
YES or NO?
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HEY................THE NAZI HEALTH CARE BILL Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 10:59 am
THEY ARE VOTING ON THE NAZI HEALTH CARE BILL. THE SHOOTINGS ARE A DISTRACTION TO DIVERT YOUR ATTENSION AWAY FROM THE REAL ISSUES. CALL IN TO YOUR STATE REPS AND TELL THEM TO VOTE THIS P.O.S. NAZI TAKE OVER BILL DOWN THREATEN WITH VIOLENCE IF THEY PASS IT THROUGH. IT SEEMS TO BE THE ONLY WAY THEY WILL UNDERSTAND. CALL TODAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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November 7th, 2009 at 7:44 am
All ballistics tests done overnight!
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November 7th, 2009 at 8:09 am
http://www.KeepTheTruthAlive.com
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HEY................THE NAZI HEALTH CARE BILL Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 11:00 am
THEY ARE VOTING ON THE NAZI HEALTH CARE BILL. THE SHOOTINGS ARE A DISTRACTION TO DIVERT YOUR ATTENSION AWAY FROM THE REAL ISSUES. CALL IN TO YOUR STATE REPS AND TELL THEM TO VOTE THIS P.O.S. NAZI TAKE OVER BILL DOWN THREATEN WITH VIOLENCE IF THEY PASS IT THROUGH. IT SEEMS TO BE THE ONLY WAY THEY WILL UNDERSTAND. CALL TODAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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November 7th, 2009 at 8:13 am
Please, spread around FASTER then the speed of sound?
http://www.thehamsterwheelanal.....-link.html
I have been working hard on trying to understand what is going on, and today I found something that really makes all the pieces fit together. This video in 6 parts is a MUST SEE.
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November 7th, 2009 at 9:15 am
Yes, this “patsy” was programmed alright. Now they even have some mysterious CIA Muslim Cleric saying how disgruntled he was.
Shades of Lee Harvey Oswald immediately after the JFK asassination.
Read On:
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Cleric: Shooting suspect was conflicted over duties
http://www.usatoday.com/news/m.....icts_N.htm
By Chris Hawley and Rick Jervis, USA TODAY
FORT HOOD, Texas — Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, the Army officer who went on a murderous shooting spree here Thursday, confessed to his local imam months before that he was conflicted between his devotion to Islam and his allegiance to the U.S. military.
“If soldiers come to me and have problems fighting other Muslims, what do I tell them?” Hasan asked Osman Danquah, co-founder of the Islamic Community of Greater Killeen, in August.
Hasan also asked about soldiers changing their minds after joining the military and inquired about other members of the congregation. His line of questioning sounded so disjointed, however, that mosque officials suspected he might be a federal agent trying to infiltrate the mosque, Danquah said Saturday.
“I told him, ‘There’s something wrong with you, and if you’re here to gather information, we’re not here to do anything against the government. We’re here to worship,’” Danquah said.
On Thursday, Hasan jumped on a desk and hollered “Allahu Akbar!” — God is great! — inside Fort Hood’s Soldier Readiness Center before firing at soldiers and civilians gathered there, military and hospital officials said. Twelve soldiers and one civilian were killed and 30 others were wounded, some seriously, Fort Hood spokesman Col. John Rossi said. Authorities are calling it the deadliest shooting spree ever inside an American military base. .
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Hasan Is Da Govt Tool Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 9:59 am
Muslim Sunnis do not have clerics or priests.
CIA?
You’re slipping up.
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HEY................THE NAZI HEALTH CARE BILL Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 11:00 am
THEY ARE VOTING ON THE NAZI HEALTH CARE BILL. THE SHOOTINGS ARE A DISTRACTION TO DIVERT YOUR ATTENSION AWAY FROM THE REAL ISSUES. CALL IN TO YOUR STATE REPS AND TELL THEM TO VOTE THIS P.O.S. NAZI TAKE OVER BILL DOWN THREATEN WITH VIOLENCE IF THEY PASS IT THROUGH. IT SEEMS TO BE THE ONLY WAY THEY WILL UNDERSTAND. CALL TODAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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November 7th, 2009 at 9:53 am
About Hasan and his “cleric”
Sunni Muslims do not have priests or “clerics”
Seems as though the CIA slipped up on this one.
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November 7th, 2009 at 10:05 am
..”officials took several hours to correct news media reports that Major Hasan had been killed.”
The media was reading off of a script and the major was supposed to have been killed.
Just like the reporting mistakes regarding Bldg 7 on 9-11.
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BlackOPS Gone Rogue Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 11:06 am
I wonder when the CIA will mkake sure the good Major succumbs to his wounds, I mean, just like Lee Harvey Oswald, Hasan was supposed to die.
Now they got a problem.
Unfortunately, someone will come forward and “off” Mr. Hasan before he has a chance to speak to ANYONE, thus leaving for conjecture for decades, “what really happened”.
Just as in the JFK asassination.
He has probably been transported underground to Langley by now.
I am guessing he is no longer alive as we speak either.
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Huggles Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 11:55 am
And that police sergeant saw Hasan Nidal in his galabia walking and started shooting out of reflex. How much you wanna bet she will succumb to her wounds too.
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November 7th, 2009 at 2:03 pm
this reeks of a cia cover for some sort of project they want to keep quiet. they tend to operate this way. the cia has been exploiting the american people for decades, so why would they stop now? perhaps the victims were involved in some sort of operation the millitary wants to keep quiet.
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November 7th, 2009 at 2:26 pm
i think we will never get the true story.
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BlackOPS Gone Rogue Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
The “true” story in in my name.
The black ops “handlers” rescued two of the Hasan accomplices in Crown Victoria vehicles, leaving the patsy (Hasan) behind.
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November 7th, 2009 at 3:35 pm
To all of the CIA goons who may be probing this site I say to you….
We’re on to you and your boss, PNAC.
We are desensitized by any death numbers lower than the WTC death toll number.
Your FOX News propaganda outlet made us this way.
Thanks for nothing.
The pleasure was all yours…
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November 7th, 2009 at 4:59 pm
BREAKING NEWS
Obama sells the United States to Iran for an undisclosed sum. Also recieves a huge land option and the entire city of Chicago as partial payment.
News at 11.
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November 7th, 2009 at 5:02 pm
BREAKING NEWS
Obama sells the United States to Iran for an undisclosed sum. Also recieves a huge land option and the entire city of Chicago as partial payment.
News at 11.
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November 7th, 2009 at 5:02 pm
BREAKING NEWS………
Obama sells the United States to Iran for an undisclosed sum. Also recieves a huge land option and the entire city of Chicago as partial payment.
News at 11….
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November 7th, 2009 at 5:32 pm
–and that goes for you New Agey/karma/’frequency’ freaks and apologists/explainers for Icke—y’all can eat $hit from my chakra!
Think-What if the headlines had read: “Fort Hood Killer Believed World Run By Shape-Shifting Reptilians”
“Hasan Listened To Conspiracy Theorists David Icke, Alex Jones”
Thank God that wasn’t the case- but it could have been! It is nuts to believe such things however it’s what has been said by a regular guest on the Alex Jones show. Jones has never called David Icke on his reptilians bull$hit. Thanks a lot Icke and you Icketards! Thanks for giving ammo/reason for the media to broad-brush all anti-NWO/truthers as kooks in the eyes of the masses. Thanks a lot Alex- for including that poison in your message. As you yourself Alex have described disinfo agents as being like rat poison-being 99% good food, that it’s the 1% disinfo that ruins everything. You’re message is tainted with that little lump of feces in an otherwise good dish of truth Alex- the poison of whack-job nonsense like what Icke has put out. Just yesterday (thursday) on your show, your own guest Joe complained about Icke and his reptilian crap and you STILL wouldn’t rebuke the BS, you simply said that “Icke has put out 99% good info” BUT ALEX- apply your own rat poison analogy to Icke dammit!! He’s either a purposeful agent or a real asshat- either way he should be shunned like a serious Jew or Adventist shuns pork.
Also you have Alan Watt on often, the guy who said things in his first book which I have like ‘television’ is a jewish/illuminati plot, because it’s really te-LEVI-SION, a term the conspirators made up occulticly don’t you know. Now you consider Watt some kind of ‘expert’ on things, so much that you feature him in your latest film.
He’s not even just ‘disinfo’, David Icke is total whackjob/retard info, at least that’s a proper way to see anyone who believes his crap. Truthers/anti-NWO/Patriots didn’t need that douche Icke giving reason for the mainstream to paint us as kooks/fruitcakes/whackjobs that all believe such retarded crap- that the world is run by shape-shifting reptilians. Icketards who still listen to Icke after the guy has said such nonsence and even claimed to be the ‘Christ for the New Age’ need to get a mental enema and take the REAL ‘red pill’ with a big dose of reality, or better yet just kill yourselves. I notice now that neither Watt nor Icke repeat the most retarded things they’ve said before when they’re on your show.. No doubt at least others have rebuked them enough to make them back off from their most crazy crap.
I hope to God some nutball believer in Icke’s reptilian $hit doesn’t go postal and shoot people. That’s all we need for the sheeple masses to hear- that “a crazed conspiracy theorist” who “believed in a New World Order run by shape-shifting reptilians” went berserk and killed some polititians or whoever. I suppose the same f***sters who did the MK-Ultra whammy on Oswald, Sirhan and McViegh etc. could easily find an Icketard who happens to listen to Alex and program them to go postal like these shooters or drive a bomb truck like they did McViegh. Mind control is real, people have been made to believe they were abducted by extraterrestrials so that the rest of us might see them as more believable since they really believe it themselves. I’m not giving them any ideas that they haven’t already thought of (and done).
Those who are disgusted with the way Alex has Icke on the show often but won’t get Icke to denounce his reptilain $hit need to tell Alex so, and demand Icke apologize for hurting the image of truthers etc. in the eyes of the many.
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November 7th, 2009 at 7:38 pm
Interesting that the 7-11 video was released very quickly compared to OK city bombing and 9-11 videos confiscated and only select ones released only after years of FOIA lawsuits Hmmmmmm.
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November 7th, 2009 at 8:05 pm
This IS what happened:
Five Ft. Hood Soldiers walk into Nidal Hasan’s office asking him to give them the necessary documentation that will declare them “Unfit For Combat Theater of Operations” and they are all packing heat. When Nidal Hasan refuses to give them this documentation they pull out their pistols and threaten Major Hasan and he still refuses, somehow Major Hasan gets a gun away from one of the Soldiers and they all run, shooting as they flee from Major Hasan’s office. Major Hasan gives chase and shoots three of the soldiers seriously wounding one and killing two of them as they flee and two manage to get away.
A female cop enters and witnesses Major Hasan shoot two of the three and shoots Major Hasan, seriously wounding him and miraculously survives and the media puts a massive spin on the entire story making you think Major Hasan is another Bad Muslim when in all reality, he was the savior of this whole event.
While the female cop is busy shooting the wrong guy, the two surviving Soldiers make their way to the theater and shoot up some more people and still manage to get away…..UNDETECTED!
This gives you an idea of how the Mainstream Media puts their spin on major stories long before the facts have all come in. Since Major Hasan, the only real witness in this is incapacitated, the only story you hear is what the other witnesses and the Female cop witnessed during this ordeal.
In order for the media to maintain their so called “Credibility”, Major Hasan will conveniently die from his wounds so that the TRUTH will NEVER BE KNOWN and the Media can maintain their Image as excellent STORYTELLERS.
There is a MAJOR AGENDA with the Obama Health Care voting next week and the Gun Control also which leads me to believe that this Incident has HUGE POLITICAL VALUE in DC before the Voting on both of these bills which goes along with Timothy Geitners statement “Never let an event go by without using it for political benefit”.
YOU ARE BEING LIED TO LIKE YOU ARE STUPID, WAKE UP!
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November 7th, 2009 at 8:09 pm
where’s the thread about these guys?
“Four Afghan soldiers, three police and another person believed to have been an interpreter were killed.”
and how were they killed? guess, c’mon guess, for the brighter contestants here you guessed right, for you plebs, it was “friendly fire” what a fucking oxymoron if there was one.
right, i forgot american blood is worth much more.
jingle bells, jingle bells, jingle all the way……..
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November 8th, 2009 at 12:46 am
Piss off.
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burnout the rich to keep warm Reply:
November 8th, 2009 at 4:03 am
you’re next pleb
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November 8th, 2009 at 8:19 am
There is no more that can be done in the states, its like the titanic hit the iceburg and is sinking fast and instead of getting in the lifeboats yall are bitchin at each other, the ship is not coming back up people. margarita island is full of opportunity cheapest cost of living in the world, 4 cent a gallon gas free health care no taxes, no hurricanes, all food is organic by law. for more info check out http://www.escapethestates.com I have plenty of references from people I have moved down here, jump on the underground railraod and find out what it is like to live in a country that has alot more freedom then the united states. Put your money in a different currency and get out with it and dont look back. soon the dollar will be worth nothing, then you are stuck like a turd in the toilet. thanks for listening, if you need help contact me, My wife and I have plenty of knowledge about living here on margarita island we moved here 3 years ago with 3 small children and 3 dogs. We had to get our kids away from the toxic foods and environment. We can help you escape the states no matter what situation you are in.
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November 8th, 2009 at 4:22 pm
More “Non-news” to keep your attention away from what’s really happening. You morons had better get with the programme and do it fast! While you watch a government staged terror attack at Ft. Hood and Government sponsored media coverage 24/7 your real freedoms (the very few which remain) are being burned on the fires of tyranny in Washington. You have given away your rights and are lambs awaiting the slaughter. You deserve it. You are all cowards and simpletons. I take partial blame for not doing what I could have done in the past … my life in danger for doing what I should have done … but at least I have had the sense to realise that you’re all polishing brass on the Titanic! I got out. I’ve found an island away from the terror and tyranny. Bon Voyabe morons!
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November 8th, 2009 at 9:52 pm
Over many years we have all been lied to by our Governments, but not just our Governments but many religous leaders. Many things we have been taught are not even in Scripture and millions have swallowed so many lies by these false prophets. If you are a truth seeker please visit the following web site and take the time to read some of the articles, you will be shocked.
http://www.2besaved.com
Blessings
Ben
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