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		<title>By: Anisha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anisha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 21:22:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Right On

Thank you very much for your thoughtful words and historic accounts. These are all important considerations that will test each and every one of us American citizens now and in all the days ahead.  

Those are very powerful excerpts from Mr. Jefferson and teachings of the Bhagavad Gita.  We live in a duality where most important considerations are based on a &#039;double edged sword&#039; so to speak.  In other words it can work for us or against us.  Each individual must decide for his or herself.

When push comes to shove, each of us may be &#039;called&#039; to act from the essence of our own conscience. No one is &#039;qualified&#039; to force another to make what they may feel is the &#039;right action&#039;.  

Many religious fundamentalists of all stripes make this dogmatic mistake and forget that each of us are imbued and empowered by our own conscience or soul through our own concept of a universal creator. Consent is always required for anything involving the destiny of a human being.  

There are many degrees of violation of this everywhere today and in the past.  Our &#039;secular&#039; sacred documents drawn by the founders were the templates to create &#039;heaven on earth&#039; where protection of the &#039;whole human being&#039; and their destiny &#039;to pursue happiness&#039; are to be guaranteed and sovereign against those who would disregard such premises. These are &#039;secular&#039; or universal documents so as to allow for all the numerous concepts of spiritual beliefs.  This is still a truly novel construct in our world today.

Yes it is true that a &#039;strong defense&#039; was part of  our dutiful vigilance. Perhaps new and ingenious ways may bloom that may provide us citizens with appropriate &#039;defense&#039; against their tasers and rubber bullets.  That said, however, provocative violence from citizens toward these military police may also prove a futile waste of energy and even lives. 

Dissent and conscientious objection is and always will be at the very essence of what is a &#039;patriot&#039; considering the risk of life and limb involved in such defense of our Declaration and Laws.

The naming of a violent, unconstitutional law such as the Patriot Act does not make it ‘patriotic’, nor does calling the Military Commissions Act make this represent the essence of our true ‘American Military’.  These are outright perversions of our national/individual sovereignty. 

The Ron Paul revolution seems to be made up of many stripes of people who feel we must TRY with all our resources, to take back our country, firstly, through the bicameral system through education and leadership.  

If for some reason this may not be possible, then.........well, we will see what happens.  But first let us try to arm ourselves with knowledge, experience, and wisdom to penetrate the masses through persuasion and competition for the highest dream of the people.</description>
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<p>Thank you very much for your thoughtful words and historic accounts. These are all important considerations that will test each and every one of us American citizens now and in all the days ahead.  </p>
<p>Those are very powerful excerpts from Mr. Jefferson and teachings of the Bhagavad Gita.  We live in a duality where most important considerations are based on a &#8216;double edged sword&#8217; so to speak.  In other words it can work for us or against us.  Each individual must decide for his or herself.</p>
<p>When push comes to shove, each of us may be &#8216;called&#8217; to act from the essence of our own conscience. No one is &#8216;qualified&#8217; to force another to make what they may feel is the &#8216;right action&#8217;.  </p>
<p>Many religious fundamentalists of all stripes make this dogmatic mistake and forget that each of us are imbued and empowered by our own conscience or soul through our own concept of a universal creator. Consent is always required for anything involving the destiny of a human being.  </p>
<p>There are many degrees of violation of this everywhere today and in the past.  Our &#8217;secular&#8217; sacred documents drawn by the founders were the templates to create &#8216;heaven on earth&#8217; where protection of the &#8216;whole human being&#8217; and their destiny &#8216;to pursue happiness&#8217; are to be guaranteed and sovereign against those who would disregard such premises. These are &#8217;secular&#8217; or universal documents so as to allow for all the numerous concepts of spiritual beliefs.  This is still a truly novel construct in our world today.</p>
<p>Yes it is true that a &#8217;strong defense&#8217; was part of  our dutiful vigilance. Perhaps new and ingenious ways may bloom that may provide us citizens with appropriate &#8216;defense&#8217; against their tasers and rubber bullets.  That said, however, provocative violence from citizens toward these military police may also prove a futile waste of energy and even lives. </p>
<p>Dissent and conscientious objection is and always will be at the very essence of what is a &#8216;patriot&#8217; considering the risk of life and limb involved in such defense of our Declaration and Laws.</p>
<p>The naming of a violent, unconstitutional law such as the Patriot Act does not make it ‘patriotic’, nor does calling the Military Commissions Act make this represent the essence of our true ‘American Military’.  These are outright perversions of our national/individual sovereignty. </p>
<p>The Ron Paul revolution seems to be made up of many stripes of people who feel we must TRY with all our resources, to take back our country, firstly, through the bicameral system through education and leadership.  </p>
<p>If for some reason this may not be possible, then&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;well, we will see what happens.  But first let us try to arm ourselves with knowledge, experience, and wisdom to penetrate the masses through persuasion and competition for the highest dream of the people.</p>
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		<title>By: Right On Right On</title>
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		<dc:creator>Right On Right On</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 10:31:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And:

     In spite of the emphasis of the principle of Ahimsa, or nonviolence, in the Hindu, Buddhist, and Jain traditions and in Indian culture, the most famous and widely read of the Hindu scriptures, the “Bhagavad Gita,” is essentially one long argument in favor of karma yoga, or self-realization through action, in which the Supreme Being, Krishna, persuades his disciple Arjuna to fight in a fratricidal civil war that Arjuna would prefer to avoid and sit out. The main point of the “Bhagavad Gita” is that the difficult responsibilities of life should not be shirked, and one should not regard an ascetic withdrawal from worldly activities and actions to be the moral high ground -- certainly not in all circumstances and situations.

     There are many Christian advocates of strictly nonviolent protest whose role model is Jesus, and they should be reminded that according to the Bible, Jesus armed Himself with a scourge to drive the moneychangers from the Temple.</description>
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<p>     In spite of the emphasis of the principle of Ahimsa, or nonviolence, in the Hindu, Buddhist, and Jain traditions and in Indian culture, the most famous and widely read of the Hindu scriptures, the “Bhagavad Gita,” is essentially one long argument in favor of karma yoga, or self-realization through action, in which the Supreme Being, Krishna, persuades his disciple Arjuna to fight in a fratricidal civil war that Arjuna would prefer to avoid and sit out. The main point of the “Bhagavad Gita” is that the difficult responsibilities of life should not be shirked, and one should not regard an ascetic withdrawal from worldly activities and actions to be the moral high ground &#8212; certainly not in all circumstances and situations.</p>
<p>     There are many Christian advocates of strictly nonviolent protest whose role model is Jesus, and they should be reminded that according to the Bible, Jesus armed Himself with a scourge to drive the moneychangers from the Temple.</p>
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		<title>By: kraut</title>
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		<dc:creator>kraut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:24:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>organise, I say, organise well. Speak to people, don&#039;t ring them, writing is safer. Orghanise to throw off this gauntlet of anti libertarian laws created by the neocons to tear democracy in half and install a dictatorship of the powerfull vested interests. 
The Leviathan is alive and well and its eating up the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>organise, I say, organise well. Speak to people, don&#8217;t ring them, writing is safer. Orghanise to throw off this gauntlet of anti libertarian laws created by the neocons to tear democracy in half and install a dictatorship of the powerfull vested interests.<br />
The Leviathan is alive and well and its eating up the world.</p>
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		<title>By: Willson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Willson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 08:58:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And some americans still believe you don&#039;t live in a police state!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And some americans still believe you don&#8217;t live in a police state!</p>
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		<title>By: Anisha</title>
		<link>http://www.prisonplanet.com/as-unlawful-arrests-continue-st-paul-feels-like-a-city-under-siege-for-some-residents.html/comment-page-1#comment-33064</link>
		<dc:creator>Anisha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 07:58:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For all you beautiful young people out there, I am asking you to think before you act!  From the sounds of these comments posted here you may be encouraged and even tempted to commit violence.  Don&#039;t do it whatever you do. Its a trap. There are better ways, less violent ways to commit what has come to be known as conscientious &#039;civil disobedience&#039;. Never ever give your power away through senseless violence.  That is just plain stupid and idiotic.  

I would encourage all of you to maintain your dignity. Please don&#039;t waste it on wannbe Robocops!  It ain&#039;t worth it. We need to take our country back with courage and bravery through the political system worthy of the founders and all those who gave their lives and risk for our inheritance.  

That means we take responsibility for smartening up! It means you shut off the damned propaganda TV and make time to really read our Constitution, Bill of Rights, and Declaration of Independence!  Study it. Get a copy of Thomas Pain&#039;s, &#039;Common Sense&#039;, Jefferson, Adams, Washington,etc.  Re-read the founding fathers.  

You will be amazed how refreshing it is to read their words.  Its as though they are speaking into the future directly to us, right now as we live on the brink of absolute tyranny.  I guarantee it will give you goosebumps! Their words I find very heartening, inspiring, and strengthening because once you understand what they left us, it will empower us and we need not allow fear to paralyse us right now.  To give you an example of how powerful their intent was the first United States seal had words that said, &#039;Rebellion to Tyrants is Obedience to God&#039;. Awesome. 

But keep in mind the biblical, &quot;Vengeance is mine sayeth the Lord&quot;  This seal is not about vengeance, its about vigilance and self-defence against the enemies of our sacred documents, the Constitution, Bill of Rights and the Declaration of Independence.  It was a kind of curse to those who would dare to abuse our sacred documents.  They will have hell to pay! And so be it.  But every citizen wears the mantle of responsibility to uphold and defend these documents against enemies foreign and domestic giving their lives if need be.

Our country was never meant to be an empire, nor do we have kings or emperors.  Our country has never, since the American Revolution, been on such a dark brink of absolute invasion by tyranny.
  
From August 31st to Sept.3rd, the Ron Paul r3volution did something so amazing and meaningful.  15,000 passionate and tenacious defenders of our Constitution from all over the United States sacrificed their time and expense to come to Minneapolis to celebrate and seek empowering inspiration from such tremendous speakers and to celebrate our beginning of a movement the likes of which we have never seen before.  History was made this past week. 

Our revolution will continue until people wake up and join us.  Dare to transform your fears into meaningful acts of  perhaps becoming a Statesman/woman.  Anyway, that’s what we’re doing.  We will not be at peace until we ‘Restore the Republic’ and that cannot happen if some hotheads want to do senseless, stupid violence!  

Because we know that would be the trademark of an ‘agents provocateur’. Save your violence for defence should the time come for such an act.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For all you beautiful young people out there, I am asking you to think before you act!  From the sounds of these comments posted here you may be encouraged and even tempted to commit violence.  Don&#8217;t do it whatever you do. Its a trap. There are better ways, less violent ways to commit what has come to be known as conscientious &#8216;civil disobedience&#8217;. Never ever give your power away through senseless violence.  That is just plain stupid and idiotic.  </p>
<p>I would encourage all of you to maintain your dignity. Please don&#8217;t waste it on wannbe Robocops!  It ain&#8217;t worth it. We need to take our country back with courage and bravery through the political system worthy of the founders and all those who gave their lives and risk for our inheritance.  </p>
<p>That means we take responsibility for smartening up! It means you shut off the damned propaganda TV and make time to really read our Constitution, Bill of Rights, and Declaration of Independence!  Study it. Get a copy of Thomas Pain&#8217;s, &#8216;Common Sense&#8217;, Jefferson, Adams, Washington,etc.  Re-read the founding fathers.  </p>
<p>You will be amazed how refreshing it is to read their words.  Its as though they are speaking into the future directly to us, right now as we live on the brink of absolute tyranny.  I guarantee it will give you goosebumps! Their words I find very heartening, inspiring, and strengthening because once you understand what they left us, it will empower us and we need not allow fear to paralyse us right now.  To give you an example of how powerful their intent was the first United States seal had words that said, &#8216;Rebellion to Tyrants is Obedience to God&#8217;. Awesome. </p>
<p>But keep in mind the biblical, &#8220;Vengeance is mine sayeth the Lord&#8221;  This seal is not about vengeance, its about vigilance and self-defence against the enemies of our sacred documents, the Constitution, Bill of Rights and the Declaration of Independence.  It was a kind of curse to those who would dare to abuse our sacred documents.  They will have hell to pay! And so be it.  But every citizen wears the mantle of responsibility to uphold and defend these documents against enemies foreign and domestic giving their lives if need be.</p>
<p>Our country was never meant to be an empire, nor do we have kings or emperors.  Our country has never, since the American Revolution, been on such a dark brink of absolute invasion by tyranny.</p>
<p>From August 31st to Sept.3rd, the Ron Paul r3volution did something so amazing and meaningful.  15,000 passionate and tenacious defenders of our Constitution from all over the United States sacrificed their time and expense to come to Minneapolis to celebrate and seek empowering inspiration from such tremendous speakers and to celebrate our beginning of a movement the likes of which we have never seen before.  History was made this past week. </p>
<p>Our revolution will continue until people wake up and join us.  Dare to transform your fears into meaningful acts of  perhaps becoming a Statesman/woman.  Anyway, that’s what we’re doing.  We will not be at peace until we ‘Restore the Republic’ and that cannot happen if some hotheads want to do senseless, stupid violence!  </p>
<p>Because we know that would be the trademark of an ‘agents provocateur’. Save your violence for defence should the time come for such an act.</p>
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		<title>By: ruth</title>
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		<dc:creator>ruth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 06:55:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shame on those cops. They are pawns, goons, of the new world order. Shame on them and on the FBI!! How can people sit in their comfy arm chairs and do nothing?! If we liberty, we MUST DO something!! Join Prison Planet. Join Campaign for Liberty. Get informed. Know the Bill of Rights. Know YOUR rights. Don&#039;t let this country down the tubes. As long as mainstream America is too complacent, too distracted, too ignorant, too cynical, and too brainwashed to join the fight for freedom, tyrrany is inevitable. Rise UP people!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shame on those cops. They are pawns, goons, of the new world order. Shame on them and on the FBI!! How can people sit in their comfy arm chairs and do nothing?! If we liberty, we MUST DO something!! Join Prison Planet. Join Campaign for Liberty. Get informed. Know the Bill of Rights. Know YOUR rights. Don&#8217;t let this country down the tubes. As long as mainstream America is too complacent, too distracted, too ignorant, too cynical, and too brainwashed to join the fight for freedom, tyrrany is inevitable. Rise UP people!</p>
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		<title>By: Right On Right On</title>
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		<dc:creator>Right On Right On</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 06:46:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The trick to getting away with that shyte 
is to not get too greedy;
just do one or two at a time, 
then exit, stage right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The trick to getting away with that shyte<br />
is to not get too greedy;<br />
just do one or two at a time,<br />
then exit, stage right.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 06:41:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How dare commoners go outside when the royals are about? DOn&#039;t you pathetic slaves know your boot licking role?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How dare commoners go outside when the royals are about? DOn&#8217;t you pathetic slaves know your boot licking role?</p>
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		<title>By: 1776resister</title>
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		<dc:creator>1776resister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 06:31:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Oh, yeah, I like that &#039;concealed position somewhere at the rear or maybe somewhere near, Pop, pop, pop, yeah, watch them drop.&quot;
Resist the NWO</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Oh, yeah, I like that &#8216;concealed position somewhere at the rear or maybe somewhere near, Pop, pop, pop, yeah, watch them drop.&#8221;<br />
Resist the NWO</p>
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		<title>By: Right On Right On</title>
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		<dc:creator>Right On Right On</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 05:22:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also: if the cops, the Feds, and the military start going door-to-door confiscating people&#039;s guns, that won&#039;t stop us from finding out where they live; in fact it will just encourage us. You don&#039;t need a gun to burn down a house.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also: if the cops, the Feds, and the military start going door-to-door confiscating people&#8217;s guns, that won&#8217;t stop us from finding out where they live; in fact it will just encourage us. You don&#8217;t need a gun to burn down a house.</p>
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