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  • Ashcroft: Obama, Bush Detainee Policies Exactly The Same

    Only difference is how they spell their names

    Steve Watson
    Infowars.net
    Wednesday, Feb 18th, 2009

    Ashcroft: Obama, Bush Detainee Policies Exactly The Same 180209Ashcroft Former Attorney General John Ashcroft has said that the Obama administration’s policies concerning the ‘war on terror’ represent a direct and unwavering continuation of the Bush administration’s approach.

    In an interview with the New Yorker’s Jane Mayer, Ashcroft noted that the only difference between Obama and Bush on detainee policy will likely be how they spell their names:

    John Ashcroft, who was Attorney General when Marri was designated an enemy combatant, makes no…apologies. Interviewed just before the Inauguration, he defended what he described as a “sound decision” to “maximize the national interest,” and predicted that, in the end, President Obama’s approach to handling terror suspects would closely mirror his own: “How will he be different? The main difference is going to be that he spells his name ‘O-b-a-m-a,’ not ‘B-u-s-h.’”

    Ashcroft is best known for his stated desire to introduce camps for U.S. citizens deemed to be “enemy combatants”.

    Ashcroft’s plan, which made headlines back in 2002, called for the indefinite incarceration of U.S. citizens, with the authority to strip them of their constitutional rights and access to the courts system.

    It is far from comforting then that Ashcroft sees no change whatsoever in Obama’s approach to the war on terror.

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    Earlier this month we reported on the fact that one of Obama’s first actions in office was to sign an executive order securing the continued practice of secretly capturing, transporting and imprisoning so called “enemy combatants”.

    Indeed, Obama’s much lauded declaration to “ban” torture and his commitment to close down detention facilities are chocked full of loopholes and hidden clauses designed to allow such practices and premises to be continued.

    Yesterday the New York Times even ran a detailed piece on how Obama’s war on terror resembles Bush’s war on terror a little too closely for comfort, pointing out the following facts:

    • In little-noticed confirmation testimony, Obama nominees have endorsed continuing the C.I.A.’s program of extraordinary rendition and indefinite detention of terrorism suspects without trials.
    • The administration has embraced the Bush legal team’s arguments that a lawsuit by former C.I.A. detainees should be shut down based on the “state secrets” doctrine.
    • The Obama administration has left the door open to resuming military commission trials.
    • The Obama administration signaled a continuation of Bush era policies when it threatened to cease all intelligence ties with Britain if it revealed that a British suspect held at Guantanamo Bay had been tortured into confessing to being part of a dirty bomb plot.

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    25 Responses to “Ashcroft: Obama, Bush Detainee Policies Exactly The Same”

    1. Cassper's Soapbox Says:

      This guy is going to be a real pain in the ass !!

      We need to inform the people as mutch as we can !!
      I make cards,folders and a ton of DVDs and I leave them every where,I also have a stamp that I use .. Stamp everything every where !! by doing these simple little things I think we can beat the hidden agendas ..

      I would like to invite you to look at one of my soapboxes by clicking on my name .. Thanks Cassper ..

      I will not be a slave to no man or what is blanted evil

    2. dave Says:

      who cares what mr. patriot act, john asscroft says? he’s not looking out for you, he’s just another partisan hack. look, obama’s justice department is investigating all the torture memos issued by bush.

      5 years ago john ashcrofrt was public enemy #1 on this site, now u guys look to him for credible opinions? please. there is NO WAY obama is going to be anywhere near as bad as bush was on the torture issue. read the fuckin ny times or a real publication, dont read this doom and gloom b.s.

      Mike Reply:

      and who the fuck do you think owns the ny times, CNN, Time, Fox, ABC, or Disney?
      The commission on Foreign Relations, ran by David Rockefeller. YOU sir, are the fuckin idiot. now go back to sleep you good little sheep you.
      you will be the enemy combatant that is held in the camp, you will be tortured, and held with no rights. You will have no means of attorney, no chance to talk to your parents. You will be disposed of secretly and have no trial. no doom and gloom B.S. here you waste of air, just your idiot, conformist ideas.

    3. Captain America Says:

      Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss.

      Arion Reply:

      Hey Captain America! I quoted the same line from The Who to my friends in the States who are so ga-ga over Obama (and I’m an American…living in Scotland).

      This whole thing may actually go from bad to horrible. Wake up proles!

    4. Tweedle Dee Tweedle Dum Says:

      NeoConCon or Leftwing there really is no difference when they both praise each other for tearing down the Constitution just the same…
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkiH_P-Tz-s

    5. dipsheepdave Says:

      both kerry and bush were both skull and bones, the bohemian grove is a non-partisan “issue”, and the bilderburger controll both sides. I would guess ashcroft would know the legislation that he started so is looking for a pat on the back.

    6. dipsheepdave Says:

      … and obama said israel is sacrosant

    7. Tex Hexman Says:

      This is just shocking news! I can not believe this. The same? Say it ain’t so John, say it ain’t so…
      (click my name for protest music)

    8. ugly shit from germany Says:

      obama will not be able to make america’s global prestige much better. here in germany most of young people are well shot of bush. he had to go and whoever had been elected, he must do his job better than bush did.

    9. Rob Says:

      It has been only four weeks that the poor guy took the office. Please give him some time to settle down

    10. Jeff Wizard Says:

      Thats because someone else calls the shots!

    11. Lev Says:

      There is no way that the “powers that be” (Council on Foreign Relations, Bilderberg Group and Trilateral Commission) would allow someone to even be a major candidate for the presidency let alone get elected if they thought there was any chance that they would actually change anything. If Obama was a real change candidate he would have been ridiculed then ignored just as they did somebody like Kucinich. If Obama was anything other than completely a puppet of his C.F.R.-Bilderberg-Trilateral puppetmasters then he would still be a junior senator from Illinois that nobody heard of. If that. Most likely he would still be just a community organizer. He’s been cultivated by the ruling class and elevated to national prominence. The puppetmasters control both sides which are so close to each other as to be nearly indistinguishable anyway. There IS NO “leftist” candidate that ever has a real shot at even winning the nomination. The system is set up so as to be impossible to be changed from within.

    12. 2headedbeast Says:

      barak & barack (US + Israel= beast bilderburg buddy system)

    13. Flush the Toilet Says:

      FEMA camps for Christians ALLLL Aboard. you can bring your cross but no freedom of speech. And your guns will be gone so just be quiet. The Multi Billions stole all the money
      anyway. And the Government works for them. You can look at all the big yachts but
      only from the FEMA camps if your lucky we will build some near the Water for the View.

    14. Flush the Toilet Says:

      oh and the Peanut Butter well the peanut butter already did a trial run.

    15. Flush the Toilet Says:

      Once in the FEMA camp they will Gulag you or if your lucky they will give you a White
      Phosphorus Show. Hopefully the cross will be Metal as to not burn down with the White
      Phosphorus show. They practiced on the Palestinians next we will get “change”
      those dime things.

    16. sharper Says:

      http://www.ExposingChristianity.com
      The pen is mightier than the sword

      Judaism, Christianity and Islam are all programs to keep spiritual knowledge away from the populace in order to keep humans enslaved by the global elite.

    17. 2headedbeast Says:

      the modern political thought process

      It is better to be feared than loved, more prudent to be cruel than compassionate.

      – Niccolo Machievelli

    18. Rick Truman Says:

      BLACKJACK Part 5 is now up at The London Telegraph.

      http://www.telegraph.co.uk/cul.....art-5.html

    19. It'a a sold out cover up joke Says:

      The freak Show will dictate and you will goosestep like in USSR in the beginning there
      was Jesus and the Church then once the nasties took over the church was dead.

    20. It'a a sold out cover up joke Says:

      First the intellectuals then the christian priest where killed then the people with spines until
      just mindless zombies who will had been crash by nasty russian reds. Well guess who those reds were. Then they came here I saw them on TV trying to start a war with Russia.
      They are not CHRISTIANS they are the I am so special nasty war money grumbing crowd.
      Lets see this group has been kicked out of every country because……….MONEY GAMES

    21. It'a a sold out cover up joke Says:

      Tell me one personwho had ever heard of the New American suck ass Century before 9/11.
      They have been plotting this crap forever. They suck. Nice 9/11 just sort of gave us what
      they wanted like on Q. Please these people always mess with people they sold your jobs offshore. Now everything is screwed up. They don’t care becuase they want all the money.
      They have an INBRED sickness i have been studing it. Makes them nutty. The more inbred the crazier they get and the more money they need because they keep replicating the same DNA in each generation. Its true if you study it.

    22. Dmitri Says:

      Hey, its me!
      I am russian just as many more people what i know in US
      We spreding the word around just like u are.
      Just wanted to say.. keep it up !!!

    23. Zero Bama Says:

      people are too dumb to wake up to this. they, in my mind have it coming.

      Stand by for martial law.


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