With the release of the NIST final report on Building 7 we can safely say that the government remains committed to the ongoing cover-up, and that crucial evidence was simply ignored, fairy tales were manufactured, and that’s good enough for a lot of media. Perhaps a super-majority of media.
As media, “the press,” will not perform its function as society’s government watchdog, and will not pursue the gaping holes in this wizard’s curtain, it’s basically left to us — you and me — to clear up this matter for our fellow citizens. We are at a serious disadvantage, and yet the task is not so daunting as rabid “debunkers” would have you believe.
Let’s defer to one of their own, the former head of NIST’s Fire Science Division (the federal government organization which produced the sham report linked above).
Dr. James Quintere Phd. certainly meets the criteria of “expert” as well as “specialist” and “insider.” Here’s what he had to say about NIST’s 7 year farce investigating the 9/11 building “collapses.”
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Quintere:
“I have over 35 years of fire research in my experience. I worked in the fire program at NIST for 19 years, leaving as a division chief. I have been at the University of Maryland since. I am a founding member and past-Chair of the International Association for Fire Safety Science—the principal world forum for fire research.”
“In my opinion, the WTC investigation by NIST falls short of expectations by not definitively finding cause, by not sufficiently linking recommendations of specificity to cause, by not fully invoking all of their authority to seek facts in the investigation, and by the guidance of government lawyers to deter rather than develop fact finding.”
Alan Miller reports:
“Dr. Quintiere made his plea during his presentation, ‘Questions on the WTC Investigations’ at the 2007 World Fire Safety Conference. ‘I wish that there would be a peer review of this,’ he said, referring to the NIST investigation. ‘I think all the records that NIST has assembled should be archived. I would really like to see someone else take a look at what they’ve done; both structurally and from a fire point of view.’”
“’I think the official conclusion that NIST arrived at is questionable,’ explained Dr. Quintiere. ‘Let’s look at real alternatives that might have been the cause of the collapse of the World Trade Towers and how that relates to the official cause and what’s the significance of one cause versus another.’”
“‘I hope to convince you to perhaps become ‘Conspiracy Theorists’, but in a proper way,’ he said.”
–Former Chief of NIST’s Fire Science Division Calls for Independent Review of World Trade Center Investigation, By Alan Miller, August 21, 2007, Oped News
This degree of honesty and risk to one’s reputation and career is seldom seen from high-level government officials. We must take these warnings and revelations seriously. Much more seriously than NIST has done, considering their best guess is that a “new phenomenon” brought Building 7 down, even though much hotter and longer-lasting fires have never had a similar effect on other high rise buildings in all of history. “Global collapse” just does not happen to steel framed skyscrapers due to fire. It has not happened anywhere in the world before or since that one September day.
I called this article “Bad Faith,” and here is why. As Dr. Qunitere has indicated, the investigation was hindered by “government lawyers,” and thus is clearly tainted. Its conclusions are suspect, and a true independent investigation and “truth and reconciliation” must occur if this matter is to be truly solved: if we are to ever have justice for the crimes of September 11th 2001.
Bad Faith was the White House stalling for 444 days before acquiescing to calls for a 9/11 investigation at all. Witholding millions of documents and access to key witnesses was also indication of cover-up and of acting in “bad faith” rather than as a “good faith” source of information.
Bad Faith is ignoring the many whistleblowers, like Sibel Edmonds, Indira Singh, Colleen Rowley, Harry Samit, Robert Wright and even the sitting Senator Bob Graham who told PBS about the “foreign governments” who were part of the 9/11 plot. But Graham was unable to disclose these “governments” for fear of imprisonment!
Most relevant to the WTC7 building investigation is that all of the steel [which they now attempt to use computers to simulate, as if that was an acceptable forensic substitute] was disappeared from history, and melted down in Asia — ILLEGALLY — and without any justification whatsoever.
Bad Faith is that NIST deliberately misled the public by claiming that “140 decibel” explosives would have been required to take out support columns, knowing full well that evidence of incendiary material (thermate) was found, which produces no such noise. Further, on-scene witnesses heard many, many explosions and reported those, but this is not allowed to factor in to the NIST cover-up.
Bad Faith is also trying to dismiss “conspiracy” at every opportunity, by attempting to argue that because of a particular claim regarding this particular building, no “conspiracy” could have occurred on 9/11 at all. This is ludicrous reasoning on its face.
Even the government’s official story is a conspiracy theory. We are duty bound to investigate the extent and reach of this conspiracy — as in what really happened that day, what preceded the day which allowed it to occur, and what was blatantly covered-up after the fact.
People who don’t trust the Bush regime to tell them the truth about anything else you could possibly name suddenly lose all capacity for critical thought once the “sacred” topic of 9/11 is touched. If these people could just acknowledge that a cover-up exists, that would be the first step to demanding the actual truth.
Perhaps there’s a 12 step process involved in escaping Plato’s cave. One must accept the possiblity of a cover-up, given the blatant and overwhelming evidence of its existence. To deny this is infantile and a clear example of cognitive dissonance.
Why would you accept Bad Faith excuses from a lying, despotic, war criminal regime?
Why?
It truly boggles the mind.
J.D.
Further debunking of the new NIST WTC7 report:
Debunking NIST’s Conclusions about WTC 7: Easy as Shooting Fish in a Barrel, George Washington’s Blog
Links included:
Crimes of the State Blog
http://crimesofthestate.blogspot.com/
NIST WTC 7 Investigation Finds Building Fires Caused Collapse
Report and Recommendations for Improving Building Safety Released for Comment
http://www.nist.gov/public_affairs/releases/wtc082108.html#docs
Former Chief of NIST’s Fire Science Division Calls for Independent Review of World Trade Center Investigation
http://www.opednews.com/maxwrite/print_friendly.php?p=genera_alan_mil_070820_former_chief_of_nist.htm
PBS News Hour, IMPROVING INTELLIGENCE, December 11, 2002
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/congress/july-dec02/intelligence_12-11.html
Debunking NIST’s Conclusions about WTC 7: Easy as Shooting Fish in a Barrel
http://georgewashington2.blogspot.com/2008/08/debunking-nists-conclusions-about-wtc-7.html
August 23rd, 2008 at 4:41 am
I thought I’d add a last set of observation after watching this ludicrous endeavor again on C-Span. Maybe you also noticed the buzz ward from the talking points. It was “elegant”. As if, because the evidence was elegant it was therefore true. The word was used precisely, and on cue particularly when the guy from infowars asked questions towards the end of the “show”. Remember that little episode? Basically the answer he got was no your wrong, it’s elegant get back to me on that off camera, because if it ain’t on the TV it ain’t real bubba.
I don’t remember where I read it, but someone was talking about lies, and how the best lie was an “elegant” one. Maybe it was in Mein Kampf, I’m not sure. I also noticed the choreography in the room. If someone asked a controversial question immediately some poser would ask a talking points question that would try to deflate or mitigate the previously asked question.
I’m telling you friends this deal here is as bold face as it can get. Think of what they are doing here. They are demanding that the entire scientific community throw out everything they know that is true and embrace this “new phenomena”, and all of it’s junk sciences with it. It’s like the State of Tennessee vs John Scopes in a sense all over again and this demand now permeates every sector of our society and government.
Think about it. The excuse for dangerous, poisonous toys, medicines, foods all consumer goods is the FDA and other agencies don’t work any more. Why? They say…because, and that’s the end of the conversation. Anyone with a brain knows why these agencies don’t work any more. It’s because their budgets have been cut to the bone, and their leadership has been replaced with people from the very industries the agencies were supposed to protect us from. Is this even mentioned by our media? No. Not unless something huge happens like Katrina and it’s to big to cover up. In the eyes of the media it’s not to be talked about, because it’s part of the “elegant ‘choreography” that we all live under in our day to day lives.
Bush, and his inner circul never tire for the sophmoric, the frat-boy humor it constantly utters at every chance. Because of the low intellect level that is viral through this group of cads, reprobates and fools they gravitate to ironies that would never pass the smell test in the cheapest of science fiction novels. That it why they have modeled the Bush era after popular entertainment such as 1984, 24, and others.
The model that is really being used is the one never discussed. It’s The Truman Show. Remember what Rove said long ago? It was in response to a reporter who differed with Rove’s facts. Rove said “your problem is your coming from a fact based reality. We on the other hand create reality.” I thought that was very telling, but most did not.
However since those verbose words we have been living in their created reality one way or another. Like mice in a haba-trail we are cut off at every pass, herded into the tubes they wish and fed a diet of imaginary news cycles that contain no substance and the barest of truths. This goes unnoticed to the masses as it remains cloaked to the most enchanted, because of it’s elegance and that is why we who have awakened appear mad to everyone else.
There is a saying some believe to be first uttered by Tiberius Claudius Caesar Augustus Germanicus. He said ‘Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud hatch out.’ They did in a work of fiction, but remain in the mud for the most part today. Will it be the same for us? Will we never really know the truths, the answers to the pleading whys? We are currently on the brink of nuclear war. Our economy is imploding, and the fastest growing industry we have is prisons and security/law enforcement. At any moment America may become a smoldering tombstone to all we were. You would think in this hour someone would at least want to confess, but no. No they find no need to do that. After all my prior statement ‘we are currently on the brink of nuclear war….’ is based on my living in the Truman Show and outside of that created reality to those who pull the levers all may be fine. We however may never know. That’s the problem with elegance. Like art it is in the eye of the beholder.
August 23rd, 2008 at 5:18 am
There’s no end to people’s capacity to produce horse crap and no end in the capacity of people to accept it.
Everyday I lose more and more faith in humanity.
What happened to the intelligentsia who would in past times speak out against such bold-faced lies?
We live in a time where money is God.
So, I guess they have silenced by a pay-cheque (sp?).
August 23rd, 2008 at 5:19 am
NIST, will you please explain how WTC7 fell so fast? If it fell faster than a conventional collapse (I will have to go back to see if this was the case), then how did the Law of Gravity get violated at WTC7? Oh wait, that must be indexed in your report under “new phenomenom”
August 23rd, 2008 at 6:32 am
i work nights.when i got home from work @ 3:00 a.m. CST on the morning of 9-12-01,i turned on faux news just as they were talking about bldg 7 being “brought” down because they said the fires in it couldn’t be put out.they actually showed close up video of the implosion that had to be taken from an adjacent building fairly high up from the ground.you could clearly see dozens of small explosions going off all over the front of the building and then it fell in on itself.they only showed that view one time.i’m sure that whoever was responsible got their ass reamed for it.i didn’t realize the significance of what i saw until several years later.i’m sure all the news networks have equally incriminating videos in their vaults.too bad we can’t get a mole on the inside to deliver the goods.
August 23rd, 2008 at 7:55 am
I’ve argued with a friend who was spoonfed the gaping hole story. I’ve always questioned how the southside of WTC7 could have received the amount (However you want to define the extent of damage) of damage it aquired. The government story stipulates that the damage to the southside of WTC7 was the result of the towers falling and it was debris from those towers that caused the damage to this side of WTC7. Well, alrighty then. Between WTC7 and the towers were two other buildings (WTC5 and 6) and they got clobbered more. But, you know what. They didn’t fall down. So the argument goes on.
August 23rd, 2008 at 7:58 am
I think I read in the NIST Report: “The thermal expansion of the metal structure, due to fires that weren’t adequately kept from rapid thermal expansion due to the sprinkler system being deactivated (water diverted to fire operations at Towers 1 and 2), and also due to the added stress of heat applied from FEMA personel roasting marsh mellows in the vicinity of the WTC complex the day before, added a full 24 hours of additional heat to the metal complex and this was a phenomenom that was quite unique to typical fire/collapse dynamics that we claim to have studied in the past”
Thanks NIST. Smokey The Bear would be so proud of your findings/dillusions.
August 23rd, 2008 at 10:40 am
Pure bologna. Oscar Meyer must be green with envy.
August 23rd, 2008 at 10:50 am
@panamarick
Bloody well said!!
August 23rd, 2008 at 10:58 am
At least we now know not to trust ANY government funded institutions. PERIOD.
August 23rd, 2008 at 11:49 am
Hey everyone, if you want a good laugh, go to one of the other articles posted on this same subject and read the commentary by some person calling themselves “AlphaOmega.” I was actually quite impressed by his ability to type the somewhat lengty post on his PDA keyboard while driving his pizza delivery truck. Thank goodness the speedy delivery of our pies requires no educational prerequisites on the part of the deliverer.
August 23rd, 2008 at 12:05 pm
Great article. As Panamerick said very well, this is an absolute bold faced lie. Everything about 9/11 is. It is high time to take this from ‘conspiracy land’ to the mainstream. If we fail to do that it would be a terrible commentary on humanity in general. To succeed will mean triumph over evil and the empowerment of truth.
August 23rd, 2008 at 12:30 pm
EVIL OF ALL TIES,TRIES AND TIMES
YOU’LL FALL IN FREE FALL SPEED AND ARE GOING TO HELL IN VACUUM SPEED
God means it
August 23rd, 2008 at 1:01 pm
this is the NIST comanders
http://a1259.g.akamai.net/f/12.....50421.jpeg
August 23rd, 2008 at 1:06 pm
this is the NIST comanders reading the WTC 7 report
http://www.gocontinental.com/c.....tooges.jpg
August 23rd, 2008 at 1:14 pm
this is the NIST comanders when asked questions by tha 911 truth seekers
http://www.soxfirst.com/502267.....orneys.jpg
August 23rd, 2008 at 1:26 pm
This is the shirt we should used from now on
F R I E N D S = N I S T C O M A N D E R S
http://www.clown-ministry.com/.....riends.jpg
August 23rd, 2008 at 3:11 pm
Good luck trying to get the MSM to investigate as it is controlled by the same globalist perpeTRAITORS that run parallel to the Cheney/Bush regime.
One only need look to the PNAC for the agenda “Rebuilding Americas Defenses” drawn up a year prior to 9-11 for motive. This bunch not only robbed us of money but they robbed us of our civil rights while allowing corporations to expand overwhelmingly in theirs.
I always ask “WHO GAINED?” Not to hard to see that with the MIC and Cheney’s and Bush’s cronies filling their pockets right in our faces.
Who gained indeed, the cream off the top of TRILLIONS is measured in BILLIONS!
Where are they stashing it all is my question?
August 23rd, 2008 at 7:59 pm
I was a tenant at WTC1 from 1978 to 1980. The ONLY issue people should focus on as the “key issue” is: When the towers were proposed for construction, many New Yorkers were concerned that if the towers fell, they could take-out twenty or thirty other buildings. So, with that in mind the towers were built around a steel “center” grouping of massive steel support columns that in the unlikely event the towers were going down, the floors would pancake on each other straight down around the steel center core. The towers were built to do that.
Here is the key to it all: As designed and in the event of a collapse, the steel cores of WTC1 and WTC2 would be LEFT STANDING. There is NO WAY in hell the center core would come down unless it was demolished level by level to fall with the collapsing floors. No ifs; and; or buts! End of story! Period!
I am really getting tiered of watching people being played for idiots in propaganda plays to confuse valid; indisputable; facts.
This ONE FACT brought forward here is indisputable. It establishes the towers steel center core was demolished to drop with the collapsing floors. The design would have left the steel core intact in the event of collapse.
If you let someone drag you off to speculation and theories it is very counterproductive to the sniper bullet kill shot! The clowns (on the inside) that pulled this off have been laughing all the way to the bank each and every day since September of 2001 without any consequence.
Let this ONE POINT take em down… Make it the key circulating fact across the globe!
There are many other issues that are valid, but none greater than this one fact and this one fact is incorporated into the original design of the towers there for all to see.
It is time that the crap that pulled this off that have laughed all the way up until 2008 gets their asses drug out of their offices and executed on the streets.
Who set up the demolition in advance of WTC 1, 2, and 7?
This is NOT an “if” question, it is “A FACT OF OCCURRENCE” to be answered. Get the people that set the demolition and let the last words out of their mouths be who instructed them to do it.
Walter Burien
Prior tenant WTC1 Suite 2743
Web Site: http://CAFR1.com
August 23rd, 2008 at 8:00 pm
Bravo, Mr. Burien, sir. Bravo.
August 23rd, 2008 at 11:30 pm
hey mike, you were trying to figure out how the fires got so hot, you forgot one, all the files they had on enron (SEC), i am sure that added quiet a bit probably a miracle that more buildings didn’t fall.
August 23rd, 2008 at 11:51 pm
People should start writing e-mails and letters to celebrities and ask why they aren’t doing anything about the world!! ..only few have said anything about 9-11 INSIDEJOB.
Polite e-mails with say, YouTube links..
the silent ones and the supposed “more enlightent” people who you/we could write to:
Madonna
Bono
Bob Dylan ..nothing wrong whit the gov. nowadays huh?
Roger Waters…
P-diddy
Pearl Jam
TOOL
Rage against the MAchine guys
System of a down
..any one else?! i bet there are tons
Who’s hot in Hollywood?
Richard Gere is a buddhist..
Susan Sarandon
Tim Robbins
Wesley Snipes ..should be quite pissed off
Morgan Freeman
Johnny Depp
Keanu Reeves
..to name a few
..basicly anyone who has been “pro” something..i’m sure they’d like to be pro freedom and peace too.
These are the people who can reach people, you know?!
Alot of people sit infront of computers all day and write a lot, so how about writing a nice and polite e-mail about 9-11 TRUTH to these people.
9/11 Chronicles Part One: Truth Rising :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-yscpNIxjI
Could be a good idea to send this link to them so they’d know it’s mostly the young un-known people who have to do all the work and put them selves on the line while they make their movies or recording ther upcoming album
Write to celebs.
August 24th, 2008 at 5:47 am
gnome-sang, you are brilliant! Thanks for the laugh.
Walter Burien, you have brought out again a major point. I’m saddened that many have not addressed it. I accepted this fact a long time ago as another fact for proving an unconventional collapse. Most people here have and that might be the lack of response because we have accepted it. The idiots here who think fires did all this are mute to your comment. Why? Because they don’t know how to refute it. They like listening to the government that stated “There were no 47 interior core columns that went down several dozens of feet into the bedrock for support” What idiots
August 24th, 2008 at 7:39 am
Some say jet fuel brought down the towers, but no jet hit #7, but yet fire brought it down………They are scaredy cats and like being spoon fed shit as long as it makes them feel good. Oh no our loving Govy wouldn’t lie/hurt us!
August 24th, 2008 at 8:41 am
Very astute Linda in RI
August 24th, 2008 at 10:49 am
http://www.onemorepromethean.c.....-collapse/