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  • BART cop shooting protests escalate, turn violent

    Diane Sweet
    Raw Story
    Thursday, January 8, 2009

    Angry protests turned to rioting Wednesday night in response to the January 1st shooting of an unarmed man at a subway station in California’s Bay Area. Police made over 100 arrests, after cars were vandalized, store windows were smashed, and fires blazed out of control on the streets.

    RAW STORY first reported the shooting of Oscar Grant, 22, who was killed by a single gun shot to the back after being pulled from a train along with some friends amid reports of an altercation on Monday, Jan. 5. Johannes Mehserle has been identified as the officer who is alleged to have fired the fatal shot, and has resigned amid alleged death threats.

    The attorney for the family of Grant, John Burris, said the timing of the officer’s resignation didn’t surprise him.

    “He doesn’t want to give a statement because BART could’ve ordered him to do so, and if he didn’t, he could be terminated.”

    Wednesday night, the streets turned into West Beirut after protesters left the station area.

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    NBC’s Bay Area News reports, “The protest Wednesday began peacefully at the Fruitvale Bay Area Rapid Transit station, but forced the closure of that station from about 3 p.m. to 7 p.m. before protesters moved through the city. At one point, reporter George Kiriyama was hit in the arm by a tear gas can. He explained live on television, ‘I’ve been hit. I’ve been hit.’ Kiriyama suffered a bruise to his arm.”

    One of the protest’s organizers, Evan Shamar, blamed others for stirring things up.

    “He said a group of anarchists, who were not part of the organizations hosting the rally, smashed a police vehicle before setting a garbage can on fire,” the NBC affiliate reported.

    The following YouTube video was filmed January 7, 2009 (this clip contains strong language):

    The following video is a CBS5 news clip uploaded to YouTube on Jan. 7, 2009:

    The following footage of protests at the BART station where Grant’s slaying took place was uploaded to YouTube by a protester on Jan. 7, 2009:

    Part two (this clip contains strong language):

     

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    119 Responses to “BART cop shooting protests escalate, turn violent”

    1. BRASS BALLS Says:

      About time

    2. Paul D Says:

      Yes send in the government funded anarchists and then you can let the police of the leash and have them smash the peaceful protesters, lol.

    3. john Says:

      From Seattle to Washington D.C. those Government hating Anarchists get around.

    4. Annnonymomos Says:

      And so it begins…this of course will be ignored by the rest of the countries news outlets…or the story about the stun gun confusion will tide over these ignorant shits. My heart goes out to all of the people who are about to be arrested and/or murdered by riot squads over the next couple days.

    5. Sad Day for the Republic Says:

      I learned about the riots yesterday via this site. no mention on news this am. only small note on fox website. Why haven’t they arrested this cop? If they look at the video that’s enough to arrest him and hold him. if they don’t the riots will get worse. Is this the beginning of total rebellion against the police state?

    6. rats Says:

      Anarchist huh?

    7. mrwickey Says:

      you know its a sad day when “girls gone wild” is considered to be lewd and obscene, and punishable for watching,selling or distributing, but murder by cop is ok…
      And there has been another ‘incident’ in Houston, where someone is lucky to be alive, but was shot by a cop in his own front yard…

      How about some “GUN CONTROL” for the Police????

    8. Anon Says:

      Fuk the pigz its time for payback!
      And to the hopeless chikenshit conformist whinerz hope you enjoy being raped and molested by the law.
      Evil prevails when good men do nothing!
      Discussions = FAILED!
      Diplomacy= FAILED!
      Civility=FAILED
      Due process = FAILED!
      Justice= FAILED!!
      Conformity= DEATH!!!!!!
      The voice of the people= SILENCED!

      Either people wake up and realize that ONLY VIOLENCE solves OPPRESSION and TAKE ACTION,or prepare to take it right up there ass.
      I Prefer to meet my maker by explaining my ACTIONS and not my INACTION!.
      Have mercy on those who seek to wrong us,Give them a fast swift death.
      After all that is there “Justice”they dispensed upon that CONFORMING man.
      By the example the pol ice have demonstrated let us demonstrate 70 fold!
      Or just sit back relax and wait for your fema camp departure drive.
      What will you choose?

    9. timmy Says:

      peaceful protest turns violent = provocateurs

    10. reptile Says:

      Cops hire “anarchists” to instigate, about time it backfires on them.

      Maybe the public needs more classes on how to sit peacfully and let the cops tourture and arrest them

    11. Annnonymomos Says:

      Glad someone else noticed that this happend again in Houston, but he will live. Funny this is that everyone I tell just responds with rolled eyes and says that sucks…

    12. Kris Cantu Says:

      *I wrote this up earlier on InfoWars.com but for some reason it did not make it to the site…

      I rode the BART last night on the way to the Warriors game about 7PM – the overhead speaker said that the Lake Merritt exit was closed due to “civil protest”

      As I passed the Fruitvale exit on the way to the coliseum I could see where Oscar Grant had been murdered. I could literally feel Oscar Grant’s soul screaming out for justice – but it was life as usual for the sports loving crowd.

      Most people going to the game had no idea what had happened, but I did hear a comment from a guy with his buddies drinking a beer in a paper bag – “yeah, he was a thug. they were fighting and the cop took him out”.

      I felt like asking the BART police how they could shoot someone in the back in cold blood? But I knew that the convo would have escalated and my freedom would be in jeopardy, so I remained quiet like a good slave.

      Whatever violence against small businesses or vehicles was staged and provacateured. Just like the comments on this message board.

      Rest in Peace Oscar Grant – your murder WILL NOT go unpunished.

      Welcome to The United States of Terror!

    13. pissed in canada Says:

      they need to instigate the violence so the police can use force and shut down the protest as a whole, the end result is no more ongoing protest and then everybody just forgets about it, it’s bullshit, that is why they get provoateurs to instigate the violence, it will come to a boiling point when day, it will backfire and you’ll end up with 100 riot cops in a morg, wait for the flash point like greece

    14. CANUCK Says:

      It amazes me how much outrage people express everytime a Cop makes yet another tragic “MISTAKE” and blows someone away or Tasers them to death – you’ll recall the taser death at Vancouver International Airport by so-called “Highly Trained” Airport Security.
      You all need to keep in mind the Mentallity of individuals who choose this “JOB” in the first place. They are the type that were sadistic bullies all their lives – they get there kicks from having all this new-found power and control over people. You must realize the average cop has an IQ equal to his or her shoesize, because only a complete moron would want the job in the first place. The old days of “To Serve and Protect” are long gone. Today it’s all about intimidation and control. Cops choose this career because they are morons unable to think for themselves – they need a superior telling them how to think and act.
      They are just goon puppets for the NWO. When the shit hits the fan this year and they are lying bleading on the ground they may just clue in just before they “Checkout”. Don’t be amazed by their behavior – they are just robots afterall and this is what we should expect from them, nothingless. Better the Devil you know, then you can deal with it accordingly.

    15. John N Says:

      A police hit squad is a better alternative to rioting. Go after the scum that instigated this barbaric murder of a citizen.

    16. Oscar Says:

      all the right ingredients for greece riots …except we are better armed, but so are the police

    17. MiyokoGoto Says:

      I bet some disguised protesters are from SJSU, SCU, and other universities. I became the gang stalking victim in San Jose, CA. And I learned pretty much of their size.
      Cops at SJSU can send students to mental hospital for “beliving them to be sucidal or harmful to others” while the students deny what cops say.

    18. Charles Says:

      Anarchist are FUN! Stupid… but fun. I say Anarchist seem to be more like, plants… sent in on someone’s payroll to excite a crowd to riot. What would have happened if they had been real Anarchist… 3 of them would have stolen the cops cuffs, put their hands behind their backs, stepped on their backs to hold them down, while one of their buddies pulled his gun and shot them in the back. Wait, normal people don’t do that… only Police can do that! I forgot where I was at…

    19. Dees Nutz Says:

      Get up, stand up. Stand up for your rights. Get up, stand up. Don’t give up the fight!!!

      -Bob Marley

      That stupid a$$h0le cop should be tried for MURDER!!!!! His resignation is only proof of his guilt. Dam coward!!!!

      FUCK THE POLICE!!!!!

    20. Bobby Heenan Says:

      I saw the video of the incident. I’m sure that it has vanished by now. It looked to me like the cop intended to taser the guy… but… oops… wrong holster. After sending his victim to the promised land, the public servant stepped back and held his head like he didn’t mean to do it. Soooooo sowwwy Mr. government victim!

    21. Stroke dee salami Says:

      FUCK THE POLICE EVERY WHERE!

    22. Rich Says:

      Has anyone seen the video that was taken at this shotting????? ANy have a link?

      PLEASE SEND IT TO ME

      rantingrich1@verizon.net

    23. Ali baba poopypants Says:

      FUCK THE POLICE!!!!!!

    24. Lurker Says:

      Cops are not murderers. This cop obviously overreacted in a stressful situation.
      He made a grave mistake. There is more to this than meets the eye.

      FUCK THE COPS is NOT an appropriate reaction.

      Cops are US, they are people just like us, thrust into often dangerous and stressfull situations, to protect the citizenry from the outrageous actions of those among us that do not respect the rights of others.

      Remember that these cops were reacting to a situation that had gotten out of control. Their stress levels were very high. This cop f#ck’d up and will have to answer for his actions.

      Personally, I feel sorry for him and his family, as well as for Mr Grant and his family.
      This is a tragedy all around.

      Remember that this would never have happened if the people in this train station had acted like civilized human beings.

    25. Ali baba poopypants Says:

      YES IT IS, FUCK THE POLICE!!!!!!!!!!!

    26. Peter in the UK Says:

      Yes I agree with Lurker this BART guy posed a serious threat by threatening the officer with his back…people cant go round offering their backs for officers to shoot at.
      Happens over here too in GB.. why even one guy offered his head to police officers to shoot at not once, not twice, not hree times but 7 why he was pinned to the floor…do these people who use the Tube know you cant go round offering parts of your body for officers to shoot at..why they should be locked up bloody train users.

    27. Ali baba poopypants Says:

      FUCK YOU LIMEY AND THE POLIC!!!

    28. Peter in the UK Says:

      Now did I fire one shot or was it two? cant remeber in all this exitement…so go a head punk turn your back and make my day.

    29. Ali baba poopypants Says:

      Your still pissed cause we kicked your ass in the revelutionary war, and can’t have a gun in the u.k. cause wussy’s!

    30. Peter in the UK Says:

      Us brits are just soooooooooo laide back man, why our cops shot Demenzes 7 times in the head on our tube and we was so coooooool about it.
      We never went round rioting at this blatant murder we just chilled out man.

    31. Jim Taylor Says:

      Like Marvin Gaye used to say: “Let’s get it on.”

    32. Peter in the UK Says:

      You mean you thought you got independance after the revolution? we just went from overt control to covert control, every dollar you pay in taxes go’s to the British crown via your Fedral Reserve Bank onto the city of London, Britian still owns America and YOU DIM WITS THINK YOUR FREE and you aint, The City of London owns America every cent and dollar you have you have it because Britain lets you have it, we own your money, do your homework, I can post you a link to a great American who can tell you just what I have told YOU now….USA IS OWNED BUY THE BRITISH CROWN AND THE BANK OF LONDON…SO THERE.

    33. Peter in the UK Says:

      BY NOT BUY TYPO SORRY

    34. Ali baba poopypants Says:

      Brits lay on there back and shove big purple sauseges up the arses!!

    35. Peter in the UK Says:

      http://land.netonecom.net/tlp/.....erve.shtml

      For all those Americans who think they a free of British control you better read the above link.

      We tax you yanks to the hilt and you think you are free from British control…Ha Ha Ha Ha

      So much for your revolution hey?

      Ho and by the way I dont think shooting people in the back is ok they should take that cop out a beat him up with a club because shooting the bastard would be to quick.

    36. Paul Says:

      @ Lurker
      You are either a cop or someone in your family is one.
      Unless you have been harassed by the police and have had excessive force used against you, you have no place to say.
      FUCK THE POLICE is appropriate.
      Granted, there are good cops out there but respect is a two way street. You want respect that’s the way to approach me, after all it is innocent until proven guilty, right? Act like a dick and expect the same in return.

      The cop that killed this kid should turn himself in. If it was an accident than that still is manslaughter. There was no threat to him. The guy was down on his face and handcuffed with another cop crushing his neck. What possible threat could this PUSSY have felt.

    37. dRapNOid Says:

      Cops are dicks. You have to be a dick to be a cop. They are born dicks and they live their lives as dicks. I don’t even want to hear one sympathetic word for these DICKS because they chose this profession knowing full well that they have to act like a dick to be a cop. They pure and simple LIKE BEING DICKS. This ain’t the old days. These are times when these dicks are stomping all over our rights and enjoying every minute of it.

      There is ABSOLUTELY NO EXCUSE FOR THIS….NONE…ZERO! I don’t give a fuck if he pulled a fucking water pistol. And anyone that sympathizes with those dicks, is simply a dick. Got it, LURKER? He “made a mistake”. Give me a fucking break. His only mistake was to show up for work that day. FUCK him and anyone that makes excuses for him.

    38. Ali baba poopypants Says:

      The city of london should spend some of our money on dentists and tooth brushes PETER!

    39. Ali baba poopypants Says:

      Cops like dicks!!!!!!!!!!Dick a dick!!!

    40. Neo Says:

      PIGS are for the slaughter house. Can’t stop the movement

    41. Dees Nutz Says:

      Peter in the UK is right about where our money goes and the Fed reserve Bank…… Props.

      So what to do now? Look up what happened in the french revolution. The commoners banded together, busted out the guillotines and beheaded each and every one of those royal mutherfuckers.

      So how about it America?
      So how about it UK? Your not so free either being that you live there. And you don’t even have guns!

      Revolution anyone?

    42. Social Viability Says:

      What do you expect?

      You support your governments and then get mad when they do what comes naturally?

      Your government uses the police to govern its citizens. Without the police there would be no government.

      The police aren’t hired to protect you. They cannot protect you because they cannot be everywhere at all times.

      The police are hired to be a show of force – a visible message that you must obey your government or else. The police are not subject to the law because they enforce the law.

      Your government arms men and women that are often incompetent with a firearm, inadequately trained for violent situations and given asinine procedures to follow – such as covering a prone suspect with a gun while another officer cuffs him.

      You support your governments when you vote, when you pay taxes, when you use legal tender and when you accept government handouts.

      And then you become enraged when their police use unjustified violence?

      If you lived in the woods and kept leaving food out for a bear to eat, should you be surprised when the bear attacks you?

      If you don’t like how the government treats you, stop supporting their system. Stop supporting the bankers that prop up your governments and stop listening to the media hacks that keep you convinced that you need banks and governments to run your societies for you.

      All we need to do to unseat our rulers is stop using their money. When we switch to an alternative currency their system will fall. The central banks will dissolve and their political actors will be out of a job.

      Click the link below to explore a new inflation-proof currency, new economic format and new social structure that leaves the criminal bankers and corrupt politicians out of the picture altogether.

      Don’t fight the system:
      Replace it
      http://socialviability.com/

    43. Ali baba poopypants Says:

      Shoot a brit, america for dead brits!!!!!!!!!!!

    44. Peter in the UK Says:

      No we invest it in wars in Afganistan and Iraq but get Americans to fight them making even more money.

      Did you know that Bush is a distant cousin to the Queen? You never knew that did you?

      Did you know that nearly all your presidents have been related to the queen of England?

      So much for thinking you was free from us British.

      Hey and you may have guns but you dont bloody use them do you…look how easy they was taken off you at Katrina.

    45. Neo Says:

      Didn’t say anything that was not already said u guys removed my comment in 3 minutes after I posted it… Who u got working for u dam u guys move quick.
      Can’t stop the movement FUCK the Police

    46. Peter in the UK Says:

      And all you can do is make stupid remarks like shoot a brit or remarks about teeth and dentist…GET A LIFE.

    47. Margret Thatcher Says:

      I like it in the ass like my presidental cousins!! Give me a big purple peter.

    48. Ali baba poopypants Says:

      Peter a tooth brush is for your teeth not your asshole!

    49. Sarah Says:

      Good job Cops you taught this mongrel a lesson he will never recover from. This is warning to anyone involved in 911 Truth movement on what will eventually happen to YOU.

    50. Neo Says:

      “So much for thinking you was free from us British”. What kind of comment is that? America would stomp u crumpet eating mother fuckers in a an instant. Does Britain own the money? Sure but do they own the people of the US and their minds? FUCK no. Death to England Long Live the USA we will fight these NWO bastards to the death boiling point is near.

    51. Peter in the UK Says:

      Neo you wont do jack shit, not you or your fellow countrymen, your full of fucking crap just like us fucking Brits, you are chicken shits, just like us fucking brits…you aint going to do FUCK ALL.

    52. Neo Says:

      LOL Sarah let me guess ur the slut of the NWO? If that was ur son or family member why do I suspect u would be singing a different tune? The guy was handcuffed.. Laying down with 3 or more officers on him.. He was shot in the back… What does that have to do with 911?

    53. Dees Nutz Says:

      All those people who had their Guns taken from them won them back in a landmark court decision. All the legal firearms that were taken in Katrina will be returned to their owners and many already have. You can bet that the people will not let that happen again. I for one will not!

      Martial law is no exeption to the second amendment and those same presedential relatives to the Queen are the ones who made that law. It is the single most important rule to the security of our freedom regardless of the British rule over our money.

      We have the guns and we will bloody use them to defend ourselves when the time comes Pete.

    54. Bobby Heenan Says:

      the guy didn’t offer his back to the cops… HE WAS ON THE GROUND WHEN THE COP BLASTED HIM

    55. Peter in the UK Says:

      Lol I love this me, you yanks are so easy to wind up…lol
      Hey and another thing, how the hell is American going to stomp anyone’s ass with t he likes of Bush and now this Uncle Tom that’s about to run the show?…only guy who aint been related to the royal family but is half British thats because his pappy was a Kenyan that was under British rule so you have a half british uncle tom about to be president…Ha Ha Ha Ha and your constitution says you have to be at least born to two natural born Americans and this Obama is half fucking British even your constitution is a fucking joke.
      And what are you doing about that?…yeah FUCK ALL.
      I am british and i know more about America than Americans and I have never ever fucking been there.

    56. robin of locksley Says:

      I am a citizen of newtopia founded by the greatest brit of all John Lennon why cause im sick to death of hearing things from uptight shortsighted narrow minded hypocrits all I want is the truth

    57. Peter in the UK Says:

      And to all out there I am anti NWO I know who runs this fucking planet and Its the Rothschilds, Jew bankers the Rothschilds, along with his side kicks the Royal family and Rockerfella, your likes of Bush and Obama and Blairs and Browns ar ejust fucking show people to make us Brits and Yanks think we are free and have choice when in fact we are fucking slaves to the Jew Banker and Black nobility…I aint fucking daft and if I had a fucking gun I would fucking use it without a seconds thought…all i can shoot at the system is peas out of my pea shooter and that wont get me fucking far will it?

    58. Peter in the UK Says:

      Bobby Heenan I was being sarcastic when I said he offered his back to the cops but this Ali Baba or what ever took it the wrong way and thought that I was saying it was ok for the cops to shoot people…It was a sarcastic joke, not one of my best but sarcasim none the less. we had De Menzes pined down on one of our Tube Trains and shot seven times in the Head and the fuckers got clean away with it…they murdered a guy told a pack of fucking lies about it and they got clean away with it…now what can you do hey?

    59. MyLastComment Says:

      The time has come to stamp out the idiots who comment on this site.

      Please, here me out.

      Serious discourse is repeatedly disrupted by a growing and relentless group of tiresome-abusive-delinquent-primitive-waste-of-spaces.

      The quality of reporting on this site cannot be faulted. For me, Paul Watson is up there with the most accomplished media commentators. You can’t doubt the research, and the delivery is articulate and convincing. The guy deserves more exposure. Here’s hoping – and expecting!

      THE point it is, it’s very difficult to recommend this site to family/friends/colleagues/acquaintances. The subject matter is unpalatable for most honest hard working folk. It’s not a fair assumption to label this group as “asleep’. They are mostly honest law abiding caring active members of their communities. Nothing wrong with that. We depend on them in the civilised world.

      They simply won’t be “woken up” by the barrage of mindless aggression and blinkered comments contributed by the growing herd of trolls. They switch off. I can’t blame them. It’s a conspiracy, after all.

      The answer is to shut down the comment form. Direct all discussion to the more civilised forums of PrisonPlanet. We have to attract the main stream and lose all the fringe distractors. Until we can achieve that, we will always be labeled as conspiracy nuts.

    60. Peter in the UK Says:

      robin of locksley…and the truth shall set you free…says David Icke now here is a guy who knows the score, hes got this Illuminati and New World Order all worked out…heres a link to his site http://www.davidicke.com/index.php/ take a look whos on the front of his web page Obama the fraud.

    61. Peter in the UK Says:

      MyLastComment…True well put…no more f-ing and going off point from me even if it was a joke…sorry

    62. england expects Says:

      Peter in the uk ??? how very dare you speak like that to our brothers and sisters in the usa like you do? you are a shill and sell out to your class. to all you in the u.s.a . much respect to you all. retribution is a dish best served to the nwo muppets. go get em!!!!

    63. MyLastComment-REALLY Says:

      Ok this will be my last comment.

      WHY are you wasting your time insulting/critising/demeaning each other. Isn’t that what your masters taught you to do? You need to get real. United you might just become something you believe in.

    64. timmy Says:

      Peter: The Constitution is very clear. Article II, Section 1 states, “no person except a natural born citizen … shall be eligible to the Office of President.”

      Says nothing of the requirement for both parents to be native.

    65. s Says:

      “A GROUP OF ANARCHISTS…”

      HOW DOES ONE IDENTIFY A GROUP OF ANARCHISTS, WERE THEY ALL WEARING ANARCHY SHIRTS THEY BOUGHT AT KOHLS?

      IT WASNT ANARCHISTS, IT WAS ANGRY CITIZENS.

      IF WE CALL THEM ANARCHISTS IT MAKES IT LOOK LIKE THE GENERAL PUBLIC ISNT ANGRY.

    66. Margret Thatcher Says:

      Plaes americans be nice to the little Peter he knows not what he says he’s only 12.

    67. s Says:

      PETER IS A FUCKING IDIOT. IF ANYONE ON HERE GETS OFFENDED BY SOME CROOKED TOOTHED BRIT, JUST READ THEIR COMMENT WITH A BRITISH ACCENT AND YOU CAN ONLY LAUGH. GO DRINK YOUR TEA AND EAT YOUR CRUMPETS YOU IGNORANT MOTHERFUCKER.

    68. s Says:

      NO OFFENSE TO INTELLIGENT BRITS, BUT DUMB MOTHERFUCKERS LIKE PETER ARE THE REASON OUR WORLD IS CAVING IN.

    69. Peter in the UK Says:

      england expects, my class? if by that you mean the working class then yes I am a sell out because the working class is just so dumb, no good hoping the working class is going to do anything about their lot.
      If you mean Americans they are in the same boat as us, 911 was so blatant an inside Job and what have Americans done?
      The elite know damned well that they have nothing to fear about any class, they can do what the hell they want to do because we will do nothing.
      And they will wipe most of us out when they have to and in fact they are doing it as we speak.
      Aids, Bird Flu, Cancer, Wars, Famin…and soon nuclear weapons will be used..its to late its over we aint doing anything about it…its over they have won and they won a long long time ago.
      How long had Marx and Hengles used the saying WORKERS OF THE WORLD UNITE and have they? and they never bloody well will…we are thick, stupid, they have bred us that way, to serve to slave and then to die.

    70. Peter in the UK Says:

      s Says: Take your pills mate take your pills.

    71. Margret Thatcher Says:

      Does anyone wany to buy a crown of cum?
      My grandsons were in a circle jerk and made a crown of cum for me but i don’t want it, it’s to salty!

    72. TreasonEqualsDeath Says:

      Treason is punishable by death, and when a so-called servant murders one of our own he should be shown NO QUARTER. You’ll protest when this crap happens, but you won’t stand up to these monsters. They’ve been killing people by the HUNDREDS of MILLIONS for four thousand years, and http://www.subvertednation.com CLEARLY identifies this group with NO PUNCHES PULLED. You either identify and take these people out, without fear, or they WILL bring genocide down on you, and they will continue to manipulate your SERVANTS to murder you for them. This is NOT a game people. They’re coming for YOU America, you are NOT immune. They already run your whole country, so get a grip REAL FAST or it’s GAME OVER.

    73. Peter in the UK Says:

      M Thatcher Does anyone wany to buy a crown of cum?
      My grandsons were in a circle jerk and made a crown of cum for me but i don’t want it, it’s to salty!

      And this guy said I was 12?

    74. Margret Thatcher Says:

      I am your Queen Peter how dare you say im a guy!!
      Well maybe your rite mate i do look like a guy.

    75. Margret Thatcher Says:

      Would anyone like to suck my little PETER?

    76. Dees Nutz Says:

      You see. Now this is what our controllers want…… To keep us all separated and bickering about all the things that we don’t see eye to eye.

      But what about the things that plague all of us. The struggle that we all face everyday together even though we are worlds apart. None of this insulting eachother will solve anything and will only grant the tyrants more power and control over us. If all of us common lackeys around the world could just shut the hell up for long enough to really listen to eachother, we will find that we are all on the same sinking ship. And instead of helping eachother with the liferafts we argue over who gets to go first leaving no time left before the ship takes us all down.

      So wether you eat crumpets or doughnuts does not matter. We all need to realize that those who wish to enslave us are few – we are many. And untill we can put aside all of the bullshit that really means nothing more than hot air, we will never be truly free from the elite.

    77. Peter in the UK Says:

      Tiimy Says? http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/citizen.asp

    78. Margret Thatcher Says:

      You mean cumpet? I like cumpets there salty!!!!

    79. withheldtoprotecttheinnocent Says:

      peter from the isles is completely right , well mostly right , about who owns america. and about all the connections to the house of windsor etc.

      apologies to peter for all the ignorant comments , i nsuspect that an u.s. education and flouride has left most of my country men braindead. but dont be so hard on them . they have been warred against on the highest social engineering levels for more than 60 years.

      as for the cops , or as i call them , the fun haters. the are , were and always will be nothing more than guard dogs for the rich.

      in the end , its all about we the people. and until you ALL get that , we are screwed.

      cheers

    80. Peter in the UK Says:

      Dees Nutz…spot on sir… some on here just cant take a joke even when they are told it was one.

    81. PEAdvocate Says:

      When the cops start shooting unarmed civilians in the back with their sidearm, it’s time for Americans to start shooting back. The biggest myth on this planet is the value of “non-violent protest”. The U.S. government would not have even recognized MLK if he hadn’t preached non-violence – which is exactly what the government wants – passive citizens. MLK and Ghandi were WRONG!!! This government, and the cops, could care less about non-violent protest. Even if the cop thought he was reaching for his Tazer – what makes everyone think that shooting a citizen with a Tazer is okay? It’s a form of torture, which we are supposed to be protected from by the Constitution (cruel and unusual punishment). As we all know, Tazers can be just as deadly (and a lot more painful) as a gunshot wound. Except for the few on this forum that have expressed support for the police, the rest of you lard-heads should be sticking together. The cops and the government WANT to divide and conquer, and this Brit vs. Yank garbage plays right into their hands. We should all agree that both of our governments are fascists, and that we as a people should unite against them. Nuff said!!!

    82. Cassper Says:

      This shit is happening every where .. I live in a small town in Iowa .. pop.2700 .. Here thay pull guns at a routine stops .. Whats next ??

      Im would like to invite you to my little soapbox by clicking on my name ..

      Im fighting ..

    83. Peter in the UK Says:

      withheldtoprotecttheinnocent…..no problem sir …bit of a bugger me for a wind up…the more stupid remarks i get back the more fun I have…I know this guy got blasted in his back and Its way out of order…but like I said we had a Mr De Menzis shot in his head 7 times and the pigs got clean away with it..they know they can just come up to you and shoot you and know they are going to get away with it…and when they can do that is it not over?
      We had another cop just went up to a guy put the gun against the back of his head and blown him away…and he got moved up the ranks…honnest just blown the guy away and never even warned him…just blown his brains out..and do you know what some of the public said over here about De Menzes..well it was his fault because his work visa had expired…I mean come on..what the f-ing hell can you say to that?

    84. Peter in the UK Says:

      You know before I sign off here because its 2:30 in the morning …Ron Paul was your only hope…that guy was the dogs dangles as they say over here..Ron Paul a fantastic politician…and so was JFK I chose my Ham radio call sign after JFK hence M0JFK so If I am anti American I have a bad way of showing it dont I?
      My American friends I was only pulling your legs and sorry if I upset anyone and remember ask not what you should do for your country but what your country should do for you…I know its the wrong way round but I like that one better….bye

    85. Joe the Plumber Says:

      So basically those fake “anarchist” (govt. paid) provocateurs are back at it again!!!

    86. Peter in the UK Says:

      So your Joe the Plumber..lol your a good buddy of Mc Cain are you not?…lol
      I like that sign in screen name …Joe the Plumber…good one..like it..lol
      You know a while back during the Thatcher years I was on strike with the miners union and the cops beat the shit out of us because the march was to peacefull in other words they deliberatly caused trouble to defame the strike and the protest…never forgot thato ne the riot police even battoned women and children who had nothing to do with the march and when you see that happen it changes your whole life.

    87. NT Says:

      March for what? The chess move would be to let this man get off…let him get back on the beat…..then smoke his ass……..Stop marching and showing your hand…..then only thing marching is is cathartic…..don’t protest and make a lot of noise or create attention and then destroy your community……chill out….let it boil over and when he gets back on the street….he has 2 weeks at most to live….its been past time to grip up…..SHOOT BACK SHOOT BACK SHOOT BACK SHOOT BACK SHOOT BACK SHOOT BACK SHOOT BACK

    88. Cincinnatus Says:

      My friend was shot by Seattle Police on New Years Eve.
      I am completely distraught over this incident.

      You will see more and more events like those of increased magnitude over a shorter time frame. These events will climax in 2012, it’s like a bouncing ball, as it nears the end it bounces faster and faster…then checkmate.

    89. Peter in the UK Says:

      Thing is though NT they have been tooling up for years and they have all them concentration camps waiting for you over there…Haliburton got the 520 million contract or was it KBR a part of Haliburton to build some new and maintain existing camps to put you all in when you do kick off.

      here is a link about the camps http://www.jesus-is-savior.com.....merica.htm

    90. Peter in the UK Says:

      Cincinnatus my friend was shot by the police…mind you he was robbing a bank at the time.
      Sory…Sorry I cant help myself.

    91. Peter in the UK Says:

      and just when you think things are bad this happens
      http://www.rense.com/general84/shell.htm

    92. Peter in the UK Says:

      http://www.rense.com/general84/shell.htm and you think the guy on the tube station got a raw deal.

    93. NT Says:

      that’s fine but even in this case….if two people got together and basically stalked this cat he wouldn’t have a chance….it doesn’t always have to be a movement…..one step at a time….if crooked police and politicians had unfortunate accidents across the country somebody would get the message

    94. jambroni Says:

      It’s so fucked up how that cop probly will never be prosecuted for what he did. Things like this make me fear cops, so much for protect and serve.

    95. Rev.JimBo Says:

      Peter in the UK — any one who is aware knows what you are saying is correct .
      Do not be drawn in by some of the posters — they are either on the Computer in their parents basement posting as they pop zits on their face or they work for the man or more probably both .

    96. rats Says:

      with timmy

      peaceful protest turns violent = provocateurs

    97. Kris Cantu Says:

      Let me offer the definitive reason why this was murder:

      THE COP HAD TO TAKE HIS THE SAFETY OFF BEFORE HE SHOT.

      Case closed. Murder.

      Rest in Peace Oscar Grant.

      Welcome to The United States of Terror!

    98. bill Says:

      This is very sad. I used to be an MP. Fortunately, I never had to use the weapon. I got out because I was to nice, treated people with respect, and tried to talk before any violence was needed, and believe it or not it really WORKED, I was well liked. The department made me get out because I was respectful and nice ( no bullshit). There are very few occasions where you are fired upon, but it goes back to the ATTITUDE of the cops. They are cocky, think they are above the law etc. Obviously, not all cops are like this, but there seems to be way too many now a days. The system is designed for us to fight us so “they” have control (Divide & Conquer). Wake-Up you dumb asses.This video is clear. This is wrong and the cop should be put to jail. This is happening WAY to often . I did believe in diplomacy first. Everything has failed, I believe that now this is going to get ugly because NOTHING else is working. What if this young man was your son,relative, loved one etc. would you supporters of this cop fell the same way or since it happened to you, or would it be different. This is the problem with everything, it has to directly happen to you before you will do something about it, or voice your opinion etc.. I am white and this is WRONG. African-Americans are treated wrong and I don’t see how anyone else doesn’t see this. Maybe this is why they are starting to shoot at cops, do you blame them. Again, put yourself in their shoes. Change the training, attitude, system, and maybe we can get along. Maybe there would be less violence. Again if the system,training etc. was designed to benefit all of us “they” would lose control , and that’s why the brainwashing/mind control training continues. All this is for one thing CONTROL.Wrong is wrong no matter what color-race-ethnic group it is. This is sad and my prayers go to this young mans family and loved ones,Very sad. I don’t blame the people for getting violent.

    99. Not A Slave Says:

      It would be hilarious if, after sending in the provocateurs, the cops went brutal on peaceful protesters, and one of the peaceful protesters had enough of it and ripped some cops’ heads off with a shovel or something.

      Anarchist Reply:

      Then they would say it was an angry anarchist or some kind of provocateur.

    100. Karema Says:

      Re:
      peaceful protest turns violent = provocateurs —– not always, and not so in this case. Look what happened during the Rodney King event. African American don’t need provocateurs to get the heat up.

      And don’t get me started about that communist guy in the video trying to sell his snake oil
      And African Americans normally don’t fall for that Communist crap. Notice that commi talking about the revolution in the video? They talk about capitalism and yo u see the same ones trying to hustle their communist newspapers and make some capitalist profits at these various rallies. All they know is “revolution.” they don’t care about the various issues they only want to recruit more people into their sorry groups. I don’t know one single Communist country I would want to live in. And notice, they are not in a hurry to leave for China.

      If the American people would wake up realize that we are stronger when we are together and not separate on race lines we would be a much stronger force. We need grass roots leaders to come forward. I really admire Luke from “We Are Change” It took one vision and turned it into a world wide movement. He is just a kid, but seriously that kid is more man than many men twice his age in this nation. I hope he finds a good wife and get married soon just to keep him grounded and out of trouble.

    101. Ted Says:

      Obama can’t be POTUS.

      Since no congressman and senator objected on 1/8/09 to Congress’ count and certification of the electoral vote which would have turned resolution of Obama’s eligibility issue over to Congress, rendering moot both the Berg and Lightfoot cases, Berg finally does achieve standing on the issue of actual harm, to be addressed at the 1/9/09 SCOTUS Conference on Writ of Certiorari. Obama’s failure to submit evidence of his constitutional qualification for the 1/9/09 conference will mean he cannot thereafter challenge Berg’s request to enjoin the 1/8/09 Congressional electoral count and certification, albeit retroactive, scheduled for SCOTUS conference 1/16/09. Moreover, Chief Justice Roberts has scheduled a full Court conference on the Lightfoot case 1/23/09 in the event there needs to be a Constitutionally mandated action, the Inauguration itself, to enjoin retroactively.

      Checkmate! (WHERE IS THE NEWS MEDIA?)

    102. Smooooth operatorrr !.... Says:

      Protesters you guys are not changing shit until your all armed. You can’t even protest anymore without cops surrounding you and entrapping you somehow and staging something.

      peter poopy pants needs his Royal ass kicked by an AMERICAN. Fucking British. Go fix your levy, I hope you sink.

    103. joetruth Says:

      I was on the train at the station the same time as the shooting took place. From what I saw live and later saw on the unclear recordings, the cop made a big mistake, but it definitely appeared to be a mistake. Guns do go off accidentally, it happens all the time, even by trained professionals. I’m sure if he wanted this guy dead, he could have done it a hundred other ways instead of being in front of about 500 witnesses. What many of you don’t realize is that Oakland totally sucks and the people here look for any reason to riot and break shit. When the Raiders lost to the Bucs in the superbowl they did an even bigger riot, and what poor losers the whole town looked like. It’s funny how one scumbag gets shot by a cop and they protest and riot, but when scumbags shoot each other on a daily basis here, no one riots or gets upset at all.

    104. Outraged Again Says:

      Ok, this is off topic, but for those who have not forgotten 911 and seek additional information, get your popcorn ready and check this informative flick at:
      http://video.google.com/videop.....7672451515
      Share with all.
      –Peace

    105. mike Says:

      Check out this new video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTkAnp1-dK4

    106. ill.rider.math,.mattics. Says:

      THE GREECE RIOTS, STARTED in a SIMILAR SAME WAY. po.psyop.cia.s.cover

      ****“He said a group of anarchists, who were not part of the organization—-****

    107. Gary Says:

      That man did NOT need to be tasered in the first place. He was fully under police control, and was
      not a continuintg eminent threat to the police. He was face down on the ground with an officer’s knee to the back of his neck. He was unable to defend himself in that position. He was NOT convicted of any crime by a court of law, and was therefore innocent. The police are trying to justify the cold blooded murder of an innocent man. If this cop is not made an example of by harsh sentencing, then there should be roits all over the country. This bullshit has to stop. Cops are reaching for their tasers instead of using their brains. Tasers, in ALL forms MUST be made illegal. They’ve been labeled as torture devices by those in global power. If things don’t change then the rule will revert back to “an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth, a life for a life”.

    108. agentbluescreen Says:

      This is the exact strategy whereby the Police State will so disasterously destabilize civilian authority so that the Gestapo can be moved in “to save us’ – remember the army moved in to quell the race riots?

      Well now its cilil law and order riots for white peoples rights!!!

      NO JUSTICE = NO PEACE!!

      TRY THE DOMESTIC 911 CRIMINALS!

    109. mike Says:

      IT LOOKS LIKE EVERYONES AT HOME ON THERE COMPUTER

    110. agentbluescreen Says:

      The reasoning behind Posse Comitatus (no military at home) is that within the ‘homeland’ realm of The Constitution THERE MUST BUT BUT ONE SYSTEM OF JUSTICE FOR ALL !!(including presidents!)

      A standing army is not simply a tool of tyranny, it is a tyranny by definition!

      NO JUSTICE = NO PEACE!!

      TRY THE DOMESTIC 911 CRIMINALS!

    111. Dale Says:

      Why was’nt the shooter arrested?

    112. David Duke Says:

      He’s the mayors son.

    113. David Strokeafeller Says:

      Steal money!

    114. Tyranny Police Says:

      Page 1 of 2 11/27/06 2:07 PM
      Published: 1/6/06 Section: Page: A1
      Suspect killed in arrest attempt
      By: Andrew Sirocchi
      Herald staff writer
      A recently released convict with a lengthy record of felonies was shot and killed by Kennewick police officers
      Thursday morning after he reportedly tried to run over an officer.
      Andrew Lee Shane, 27, was apparently shot in the neck and head and died at the scene in a cul de sac on the
      3700 block of West 15th Avenue in south Kennewick. Police said Shane, who had no current listed address, had
      an outstanding arrest warrant for failing to see his probation officer.
      Kennewick Police Chief Ken Hohenberg said during an afternoon news conference that the officers “reacted to
      an incident that was really dictated by the suspect.”
      “All reports are that the officers fired at the suspect after he tried to run them over,” he said.
      The incident began at about 8:30 a.m., when police received a report of a suspicious person on West 15th
      Avenue, a dead-end road in a middle-class neighborhood of duplexes and homes. According to a 911 record
      typed by dispatchers, the caller told police an unidentified man was taking water from a faucet at a vacant duplex
      and washing a turquoise Ford Thunderbird.
      The caller also said pillows and blankets were visible when the man opened his trunk, but it was unclear if he had
      been sleeping in the duplex, which has been unoccupied for months.
      Hohenberg said Officer Chris Bennett arrived within 10 minutes of the call but decided to wait for backup before
      confronting the suspect. Officers Juan Dorame and Kenny Melone arrived simultaneously about a minute later.
      After blocking the cul de sac with their cars, the officers approached Shane, who had locked himself in the car.
      A 911 report from the officers indicated Bennett and Melone fired at Shane after he attempted to run Melone
      over with the car. Dorame did not shoot, Hohenberg said. It was unclear how many rounds were fired by the two
      officers, who carry Glock 22s, a .40-caliber pistol that holds 15 rounds.
      Mike Schmidt, who lives in a duplex adjacent to the scene, said he was on the computer when he heard the shots
      but thought the noise was made by a nearby work crew. It was only after he saw police cars that he realized he’d
      heard gunshots.
      “I thought I heard five shots,” Schmidt said, standing astride yellow police tape that roped off the street to his
      duplex. “We’ve lived here four years and it’s a pretty peaceful neighborhood.”
      Vincent Leffler, of Spokane, was part of a work crew digging to replace electric cable for the Benton PUD and was
      just a few hundred feet from the shooting.
      He said his view of the incident was blocked but he heard it.
      “(The officers) were yelling at him the whole time,” Leffler said. “They were telling him to get out of the car and,
      ‘Put your hands up!’”
      Leffler said the entire incident occurred in a few minutes. When the crew went to see what had happened, he
      said, he saw a 1990s Ford Thunderbird with its back windshield blown out and several bullet holes near the
      driver’s side door.
      Leffler said he also saw the officers drag the man out of the car and give him first aid until paramedics arrived.
      Page 2 of 2 11/27/06 2:07 PM
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      Officers discovered later that Shane had a warrant for his arrest for failing to report to a probation officer in Pasco. He had nine
      felonies on his Washington record, including convictions for two robberies, two assaults, theft and forgery. He also had six
      felonies from other states and was released from prison in August, police said.
      According to court records, Shane was scheduled for trial in Benton County Superior Court Jan. 23 on charges of possession
      of methamphetamine and second-degree attempted vehicle prowl. He also was scheduled for a court date next Thursday for
      failing to pay fines on 2004 charges of attempting to elude, 2001 charges of third-degree assault, possession of cocaine and hit
      and run, a 1999 charge of first-degree theft and a 1997 forgery charge.
      Kennewick police spokesman Sgt. Ken Lattin said the officers involved in the shooting were immediately taken to department
      headquarters to receive assistance from the Critical Incident Stress Debriefing Team. All three have been placed on paid
      administrative leave while the shooting is investigated by the Benton County Sheriff’s Office.
      Bennett was hired by Kennewick police in January 2004. Melone has been with the department since November 2003 and
      Dorame was hired in July 2002.
      Hohenberg expressed confidence in his officers and said based on the information he had, he believed they acted properly. He
      said police had interviewed seven witnesses who confirmed officers fired after Shane’s car appeared to be heading toward one
      officer.
      “When confronted with a deadly threat, it doesn’t matter if it’s a gun or a knife,” Hohenberg said. “In this case, it was a
      3,500-pound deadly weapon.
      “These officers were in danger,” he said.
      At the scene Thursday morning, Benton County Sheriff Larry Taylor said Kennewick police had asked his deputies to
      investigate the incident. It’s standard practice to have a separate agency investigate a shooting in which police are involved. The
      Kennewick department also will conduct an internal investigation.
      The fatal shooting was the first in Kennewick since 1982, when Taylor, then a Benton County sheriff’s deputy, shot and killed a
      26-year-old woman involved in an armed robbery. The last shooting that involved an officer in Kennewick was in October 2003
      at the Money Tree, but no one was injured.
      * Reporter Andrew Sirocchi can be reached at 582-1521 or via e-mail at asirocchi@tri-cityherald.com.
      Fatal shooting justified, sheri
      Page 1 of 2 11/28/06 1:28 PM
      Published: 2/22/06 Section: Page: B1
      Fatal shooting justified, sheriff says
      By: Nathan Isaacs
      Herald staff writer
      TCH
      Benton County Sheriff Larry Taylor said Tuesday that two Kennewick police officers were justified in using deadly
      force when they shot and killed a 27-year-old man before he could run over one of the officers.
      Andrew Shane was high on a cocktail of illegal drugs the morning of Jan. 5, according to a toxicology report that
      found methamphetamine, cocaine and marijuana in his blood.
      The repeated felon reportedly had told his newlywed wife and family during the weeks leading up to the shooting
      that he wasn’t going back to jail and that police would have to shoot him, according to the report.
      That included a cell phone conversation with his wife just seconds before his death, Taylor said during a Tuesday
      news conference.
      Shane ignored repeated orders by the officers, say witnesses, and instead locked himself in his blue
      Thunderbird, turned on the car, put it into reverse and began driving rapidly toward Kennewick Officer Kenny
      Melone.
      Believing he was about to be run over by Shane, Melone began to fire his gun at Shane, Taylor said.
      At the same time, Kennewick Officer Chris Bennett, who was standing outside Shane’s driver-side door, also
      began shooting at Shane, Taylor said.
      “In a matter of only a few seconds, the shooting stopped, as well as the threat of being run over,” Taylor said.
      “My conclusion is that the officers had no other options left to them,” he said.
      Benton County Prosecutor Andy Miller agreed with Taylor’s findings that the officers did not break any laws.
      Kennewick Police Chief Ken Hohenberg said an internal investigation also concluded the officers, including a
      third officer, John Dorame, had acted properly.
      All of the officers have since returned to duty.
      A statement from Shane’s family said they were withholding any judgment on the investigation or the shooting
      until they complete their own investigation.
      The family has hired Kennewick attorney Salvador Mendoza to represent them.
      “We have a number of concerns, including whether the police acted negligently by using deadly force and wish
      to investigate before making any final decisions,” the statement reads.
      Mendoza expects to have the family’s independent investigation completed within a month.
      The family is seeking any witnesses who may have something new to add. Anyone with information is asked to
      call Mendoza at 374-1554. Witnesses also can call sheriff’s detectives at 628-0333.
      In an interview with the Herald after the shooting, Shane’s wife, Julie, described her husband of six weeks as “a
      lost soul.”
      She said he recently had been diagnosed with bipolar disorder and hoped treatment would help him give up
      Fatal shooting justified, sheri
      Page 2 of 2 11/28/06 1:28 PM
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      methamphetamine for good.
      Detectives found 25 shell casings after the shooting. Bennett fired 11 shots and Melone fired 14 shots. The officers carry Glock
      22s, a .40-caliber pistol that holds 16 rounds, including one in the chamber.
      Benton County Coroner Floyd Johnson said an autopsy the day after the shooting showed Shane had been shot 15 times, four
      of which were lethal.
      Two of those shots, one to the head and another in the spine close to the head, would have stopped Shane in his tracks,
      Johnson said.
      However, he said, there is no way to know when in the sequence those two shots were fired.
      The incident began at 8:40 a.m., when police received a report of a suspicious person on West 15th Avenue.
      On their way to the house, officers were told the man was suspected to be Shane, who had an outstanding arrest warrant for
      failing to see his probation officer and who had been flagged for being violent with police.
      Shane had nine felonies on his Washington record, including convictions for two robberies, two assaults, theft and forgery. He
      also had six felonies from other states and was released from prison in August.
      He also was facing new criminal charges of possessing methamphetamine and second-degree attempted vehicle prowl.
      Shane was sitting half in the car with his feet outside the passenger door when police arrived. He was holding a utility knife that
      he refused to drop, Taylor said.
      Shane then pulled himself inside the car and locked the doors and slid to the driver’s side, Taylor said.
      All the while, the three officers were yelling to Shane to surrender. Instead, Shane lowered the driver’s window about 2 inches
      and reportedly asked the officers, “Do you guys want a high-speed chase?”
      Dorame then went back to his patrol car and blocked the street. Melone had moved to stand behind the car. Bennett was on the
      driver’s side. When Shane started the car, Bennett unsuccessfully attempted to smash the window and stop him.
      Shane then put the car into reverse.
      It was over in less than three minutes after police arrived.
      “This is a tragic event that has occurred,” Taylor said. “There is pain and suffering from friends and relatives of Andrew’s for their
      loss. But do not forget about the pain and suffering of these fine officers and their families.”
      * Reporter Nathan Isaacs can be reached at 582-1556 or via e-mail at nisaacs@tricityherald.com.

    115. flintlock Says:

      why does everybody insist that every group who yells a little louder and dosent have cameras in their face giving thank yous and mellow (nonincindiary) speeches about solidarity, are anarchists, I want limited constitutional based government, and removal of this sess system of fear and violence for all brothers and sisters of humanity, but I am fucking pissed, every day my nuckles get tighter and tighter every day another Oscar Grant, does anybody remember the boston massacre……its time to yell and kick and scream and slap the shit out of some authority, its like a abused pittbull, sometimes a baseballbat is what is best for it when it turns on you and threatens your family. Maybe when the cops see their neighbors turning on them and rage being displayed in their face, they will surrender to their humanity and just give up the role playing. Anarchists thats a severe generality, many people there many different views of many different things, try again idiots! or stay painting with one color and by numbers all of your life

    116. andrew Says:

      what the hell you people talking bad about protesters. people need to protest. there is alot to protest against right now.

    117. Frank Fuller Says:

      The Truth hurts.Taylor can

    118. Armani Blackburn Says:

      hay how are you doing??? how can watch the show on the computer see you latter alyssa


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