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BBC 7/7 “Documentary”: Just a hitpiece, or something more sinister?
Debunking The Debunkers
Wednesday, July 1, 2009
Last night the BBC aired another of its hatchet jobs on the truth and patriot movements. This one concerning the London attacks of July 7th, 2005.
Even by the BBC’s standards this was a pathetic attempt at debunking. Much of the program was spent debunking unimportant issues and old arguments. At one point they actually even brought up the sign on the bus that said “Outright Terror: Bold and Brilliant” and potrayed it as if we consider it a key piece of evidence.
They brought up Peter Power’s mock terror drills and downplayed the extraordinary coincidence, while making no mention of the fact that on 9/11 there were also drills taking place simultaneously that were eerily like the attacks – OKC aswell, which is the main reason the drills are so suspicious.
To the BBC’s credit, they did mention the fact that metal and tiles were blown upwards by the train blasts. They even interviewed the survivor who made that statement and made it clear that he supported alternative theories. However, this evidence was glossed over.
Just like their 9/11 hitpieces, they did not actually defend the official story. They simply restated the official narrative as if it was a proven fact and then attempted to disprove alternative theories without responding to criticisms of the official narrative. They made out that there was a massive amount of concrete evidence to support the official story and no evidence to support alternative theories. In reality of course, it’s the other way around. The official narrative has been torn apart by many researchers. The film “Ludicrous Diversion” does not even pose alternative theories, it simply points out the many flaws in the official narrative.
Much of the program was spent examining the effect the film “7/7 Ripple Effect” had on the muslim world. Brian Paddick, a Metropolitan Police Deputy Assistant Commissioner, argued in the piece how he felt it was important that the “conspiracy theories” be refuted as they could potentially make it more difficult to prevent “further atrocities”. This is a dangerous spin. As if the “tin foil hat” stereotype wasn’t enough, the BBC are actually subtly implying that these alternative theories are potentially dangerous and by questioning 7/7 you are promoting islamic extremism!
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Throughout the program several attempts were made to potray 7/7 truthers as mentally unstable and dangerous individuals. Threatening emails to a Controlled Demolition company and Peter Power were mentioned and a video clip of WeAreChange UK “harassing” Peter Power was shown. Muad’Dib’s anonymity was potrayed as “sinister” and his arrest was mentioned, as was the fact that he believes that he is the messiah. Kollerstrom ’s holocaust denial was also mentioned and throughout the program, numerous comparisons were made to 9/11, thereby linking the 9/11 truth movement with all of this aswell. It was as if you were watching Glenn Beck.
Towards the end of the program, the BBC mentioned that Tony Gosling was planning on working closer with the muslim community. They even mentioned an event that is going to take place on the 4th anniversary of the attacks at the Birmingham Central Mosque. It seems strange that the BBC would mention this. Was this program just a typical hitpiece? Or was it some kind of preconditioning/predictive programming to associate 9/11 and 7/7 researchers with islamic extremism in preparation for a false flag attack that will be used to defame us further?
After the establishment’s lame attempts to link Von Brunn and 9/11 Truth, it honestly wouldn’t suprise me. This is after all the same corporation that put out a propaganda piece in 2004 called “London Under Attack” which discussed the response to a simulated terrorist attack on three tube trains – effectively predicting 7/7 with Lone Gunmen like precision. Interesting how they made no mention of that in their hitpiece.
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July 1st, 2009 at 8:59 am
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Danny Reply:
July 1st, 2009 at 12:56 pm
That the BBC did not touch the Canary Wharf incident with a barge pole; where alleged suicide-bombers that were supposed to be on the trains were shot by snipers; speaks volumes. Volumes about them only being interested in HIDING the truth.
As does the fact that they lied in saying this was going to be a genuine look at the validity of alternative theories, when the footage of the “ambush” on Muad’Dib was filmed in SUMMER of 2008, nearly a whole year ago. And in that ambush, you already have the BBC “reporter” accusing Muad’Dib of lying about innocent people! If the same BBC reporter had told Rachel North that she was lying about the four Muslim men being the bombers, then at least it would be more fair and balanced even if unprofessional.
Then there was the DECEPTION about “exposing” Muad’Dib as a white man from Sheffield. When had he ever said he wasn’t? Hundreds of thousands of people; if not more; had already heard of him or knew him, so how did they “expose” that which was already publicly available knowledge since TWENTY-THREE years ago when he wrote his book “The Way home or face The Fire”? These people are surreptitious lying bastards.
At least it is getting more people to look at 7/7 Ripple Effect. And Bruce Lait; one of the survivors, who reported there was no Muslim or backpack* where the bomb went off and that the floor was bent upwards; appeared to be grateful for having been sent a copy of it.
* They left that out too.
On the whole this BBC propaganda film only proved 7/7 Ripple Effect’s statements about the BBC right.
AlteredState Reply:
July 1st, 2009 at 3:25 pm
Join the growing army and let your voices be heard. Together we will shake the very foundation of our government and give in to our DEMANDS!!!
http://www.downsizeDC.org
jerusalem Reply:
July 1st, 2009 at 6:14 pm
Well they just don’t make men like they used to, are you sure there is a growing army? If so, give directions, I want to come to a meeting.
Beavis Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 7:09 am
‘Suicides’ in the Ripple Affect Story again..D’oh
reconmarine Reply:
July 1st, 2009 at 2:28 pm
My job, according to my boss Chertoff(not Madoff) is to cover up 9/11 and 777 and I want to publicly thank the BBC for their assistance in same. All top BBC officers are hired by MI5.
Imrie Schroer Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 7:31 am
Reconmarine:
Get a life. You are an idiot.
Beavis Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 7:10 am
As no doubt you are by the CIA.
July 1st, 2009 at 9:10 am
gov.tv what we all expected yes most people on the program was made to look like nutters
thats the first time ive seen the sighn on the bus as with the demolition van i never noticed that before
why wasnt alex on the show they had his face on a tv screen but nothig else?
i dont know the truth only have my own opinions
why didnt they have the black guy who said about the guy with the bandage on his head?
sorry cant remember his name
i know who i think it is but im not an extremest or terrorist either and i love my queen and country i wish she would lynch them all
it was a good job alex wasnt on there he would have just bin made to an ideot like the rest was
used to be proud brit Reply:
July 1st, 2009 at 9:19 am
this is the one i mean
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7y6U_17jysQ
used to be proud brit Reply:
July 1st, 2009 at 9:23 am
this is the one i meanhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7y6U_17jysQ
used to be proud brit Reply:
July 1st, 2009 at 9:25 am
sorry delete the word mean on the link
used to be proud brit Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 1:37 am
it was a mistake obviously
your the idiot for that lol
July 1st, 2009 at 9:17 am
BBC is infested with Zionsts. Practically all of their output these days is purely concerned with protecting and furthering the interests of fascists. They are effectively aiding in the murder of thousands and perhaps millions of people, as their recent disgusting dissembling on the Iranian election was part of a process that, should it succeed, would see British, American, and of course Israeli warplanes carpet bombing Tehran and other targets.
Those good people of Iran, who probably just took part in a far more fair and democratic election that we in the UK, and certainly those in the US, have recently enjoyed, have shown huge popular support for Achmainejad. The fact that the so called allies do not agree witht this result is irrelevant, or should be in a just world that is not poisoned by the activities of Zionism and Western interference generally.
The BBc is despicable, biased and long ago moved from it’s mandate of public service broadcasting, and while I would never advicate violence against the individucal scum who work for it on productions like this latest travesty, BBC employees should understand that they are taking sides, and that they may one day find themselves treated accordingly.
Beavis Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 7:13 am
I found it interesting that Security cameras were operated by Israelis (sic)….
July 1st, 2009 at 9:42 am
The BBC is infested with Common Purpose.
http://www.cpexposed.com/index.php
asshole Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 2:04 am
ahaha hey steve is that another way of not saying the “borg brigade”
thats goes way back , good read . upton sinclair . the profits of religion
The Profits of Religion: An Essay in Economic Interpretation is a nonfiction book, first published in 1917, by the American novelist and muckraking journalist Upton Sinclair. It is a snapshot of the religious movements in the U.S. before its entry into World War I.
The book is the first of the “Dead Hand” series: six books Sinclair wrote on American institutions. The series also includes The Brass Check (journalism), The Goose-step (higher education), The Goslings (elementary and high school education), Mammonart (art) and Money Writes! (literature). The term “Dead Hand” ironically refers to Adam Smith’s concept that allowing an “invisible hand” of individual self interest to shape economic relations provides the best result for society as a whole.
In this book, Sinclair attacks institutionalized religion as a “source of income to parasites, and the natural ally of every form of oppression and exploitation.”
they been at it for a long time
dont ya know steve , “hiho hiho” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....re=related
Beavis Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 7:15 am
…then they just commit ’suicide’ lol.
July 1st, 2009 at 10:06 am
Was a shocking documentary, the camera work was the one that got me. Was almost a guide on to how to discredit a persons view by how they filmed them.
Dave Reply:
July 1st, 2009 at 6:59 pm
lol those unflaterring close-ups, totally shameless
July 1st, 2009 at 10:10 am
I don’t know about the rest of the stuff about 7/7 but I can confirm 100% that the train they are alleged to have boarded from Luton (07:40) was cancelled as their was a power problem between Kentish Town and London Bridge (Sorry to the non UK residents that don’t know what I mean). I know this as in the job I used to have I had access to the real time train running information called TRUST
Even if the train did run they would have got to Kings Cross Thameslink (sorry again to non UK Readers) at approx 0830. Now this is/was 10 minutes walk from Kings Mainline station and then another 10 minutes to get to the tube station platform. This is on a good day. This was a day of disruption on the Rail Network.
Now they are alleged to have travelled at 07:25, when they were just entering the station at 07:21, 4 minutes for 4 guys to buy tickets and find the platform to find a train that may or may not have been delayed, hmmmm. WHATEVER
camera guy Reply:
July 1st, 2009 at 2:37 pm
Plus the fact that they refuse to release any CCTV footage of them entering the station -or being in the station or anything else CCTV related.
Did the BBC mention the use of TATP military explosive?
I’ve made my own conclusions to 7/7 and that is that the bombers were not lone wolves and they had help from a rogue element of a government/intellegence agency/corporate industrial complex entity in order to quell the row over the “downing street memo” that showed Bush and blair agreed to invade Iraq over a year earlier.
The memo had the potential to discredit the whole Iraq war operation and expose the instigators and main players. i.e. show that there was a “Conspiracy” (a secretive agreement) to create war based on whatever they saw fit.
Two months later, London was bombed and all reference to the memo in the media was quelled. So 7/7 worked to protect the iraq war and the build up to the war wasn’t discredited.
Now we see that Oil companies are vying for oil rights to Iraqi Oil fields this week.
BP, Exxon Mobil et-al and they stand to make billions of $$$’s
Is Iraq any better off today?
yes, investment is flowing in.
Was it worth the few million lives?
no.
Bob Reply:
July 1st, 2009 at 9:36 pm
In regards to camera guy’s comment I agree with your general analysis that it is government-sponsored terror, but your assertion that Iraq is better off today is absolutely horrifying. Given that Saddam was a puppet to begin with put in to create instability in the region and doing the bidding of the globalists, it is not surprising that when he got the green light to invade Kuwait he did just that. He was set-up though and all because he wanted to delineate oil in currency other than the dollar, which was expected of him at the time. It’s to be expected that he would use horrible chemical weapons such as serin nerve gas since we sold it to Iraq through Haliburton Incorporated. This of course led to Persian Gulf I and the detonation of three kinds of nerve agents on United States soldiers to hide the evidence of the transaction. Those soldiers and their families who suffered permanent injury or death were then told by the VA departments that they will not receive compensation, essentially denying the existence of the orders to detonate. Doesn’t that put us on their level?
While Iraqis were oppressed to some degree under Saddam and the Kurds were targeted, the country was completely stable and the region at the time was very stable except for the terrorist cells created by the CIA, MI6, and Mossad, using Al-Wahabi terrorists from Saudi Arabia to do their bidding and help spread radical Islam throughout the region. It was not Saddam or Al Qaeda that was committing the major terror attacks in mosques but was instead these terror cells created by western countries to create instability throughout the Middle East and help control Iraqi oil for the United Nations (that’s where the real money is going).
US and British-backed contractors have created an Iraq that cannot feed or educate its population, much less provide much-needed electricity to much of the country. What is the purpose of these investments if not to restore some dignity to the people who have been terrorized now by the west for over six years?
Imagine if someone came into your town and raped your wife, raped your children in front of you and then shot them in the head. Then they took you without charge and flew you to an undisclosed location, torturing you in ways only the CIA and Mossad could know (or train the Al-Wahhabi terrorists in the School of the Americas) until you confess to a crime you didn’t commit. Is that the kind of freedom we want for the Iraqis?
Right now the US generals will not tell the American people how many soldiers they are withdrawing from Iraqi cities, though it is telling that this symbolic act will not result in a single American soldier leaving Iraq (didn’t Obama make that promise to withdraw troops from day one? hmm). We are born to think, so I suggest you all do it a little more
canuck rage Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 4:30 am
ya, iraq is way better off with all that depleted uranium all over the place.
Beavis Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 7:18 am
And also why Dr David Kelly had to be ’suicided’.
July 1st, 2009 at 10:48 am
The subway trains were lifted off there tracks by the power of the explosition! That means, that the explosives were BENEATH the trains! That is, mostly military grade plastic explosives used both by the British AND Israeli armed forces! Thats ALL the evidence we need;the laws of physics;=))
Bob Reply:
July 1st, 2009 at 9:33 pm
In regards to camera guy’s comment I agree with your general analysis that it is government-sponsored terror, but your assertion that Iraq is better off today is absolutely horrifying. Given that Saddam was a puppet to begin with put in to create instability in the region and doing the bidding of the globalists, it is not surprising that when he got the green light to invade Kuwait he did just that. He was set-up though and all because he wanted to delineate oil in currency other than the dollar, which was expected of him at the time. It’s to be expected that he would use horrible chemical weapons such as serin nerve gas since we sold it to Iraq through Haliburton Incorporated. This of course led to Persian Gulf I and the detonation of three kinds of nerve agents on United States soldiers to hide the evidence of the transaction. Doesn’t that put us on their level?
While Iraqis were oppressed to some degree under Saddam and the Kurds were targeted, the country was completely stable and the region at the time was very stable except for the terrorist cells created by the CIA, MI6, and Mossad, using Al-Wahabi terrorists from Saudi Arabia to do their bidding and help spread radical Islam throughout the region. It was not Saddam or Al Qaeda that was committing the major terror attacks in mosques but was instead these terror cells created by western countries to create instability throughout the Middle East and help control Iraqi oil for the United Nations (that’s where the real money is going). US and British-backed contractors have created an Iraq that cannot feed or educate its population, much less provide much-needed electricity to much of the country. What is the purpose of these investments if not to restore some dignity to the people who have been terrorized now by the west for over six years? Imagine if someone came into your town and raped your wife, raped your children in front of you and then shot them in the head. Then they took you without charge and flew you to an undisclosed location, torturing you in ways only the CIA and Mossad could know (or train the Al-Wahhabi terrorists in the School of the Americas) until you confess to a crime you didn’t commit. Is that the kind of freedom we want for the Iraqis? Right now the US generals will not tell the American people how many soldiers they are withdrawing from Iraqi cities, though it is telling that this symbolic act will not result in a single American soldier leaving Iraq (didn’t Obama make that promise to withdraw troops from day one? hmm). We are born to think, so I suggest you all do it a little more.
July 1st, 2009 at 10:56 am
Lots of people i know say “oooooh conspiracy”. I find it entertaining to bring up historical fact an have them dismiss that, then prove it. No one researches things for themselves! Sad really. Its much harder, but finding out the truth is much more rewarding! The really cunning one is Climate change. I consider myself an environmentalist, but all this carbon shite has cleverly devided an taken over a movement which was subversive an now corporatized. Back to conspiracy, we need to take the word back. The coup in Honduras was a conspiracy. Chaves conspired in the military for years. The official 911 story was a conspiracy. I’ve been nicked for conspiracy before!
used to be proud brit Reply:
July 1st, 2009 at 11:40 am
iagree with all your points apart from
taking country back thats
treason
m8 cant be agreeing with that
but agree the word conspiracy does make everone think nut!
which i think is a concpiracy in itself why ?
its always the same reaction you would get with a sheep
me personal i dont try
camera guy Reply:
July 1st, 2009 at 3:03 pm
IT’s the “Conspiracy theory theory”
The theory that the word “conspiracy” is synonymous with the word “theory” therby making the whole movement nothing but just a bunch of “theories” which, by default, mean that they can’t be proved.
I think it’s appropriate to use a different word/phrase instead of the theory connotations attached to the word “Conspiracy”.
It’s well known that the top 10 conspiracies are all carried out by the same entities.
So a bit of redirection in their direction is well overdue.
I’d say “Authorative Entity Rogue Ops” or AERO
because that’s what all of the top 10 are – people with so much $$$ that only they could do this.
nobleUK Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 1:58 pm
i just say its not a theory its a conspiracy
proud HUMAN Reply:
July 1st, 2009 at 3:08 pm
are you not a PROUD brit anymore then….?
don`t get me started on the monarchy(in fact i wont start on them just because i do not wish to be “detained” under the terrorist act for going against the country, sorry i thought it was called having an opinion)
But do yourself a favour and actualy research our royal history there might be a few supprises for you on the way though so be warned
you are talking about a royal family who have nothing but their own self interests at heart…..find that hard to beleive? just read the stories that have been published without any financial gain from either serving or ex PALACE staff who were treated like dirt……..not that they have my sypathies either because they are all part of the RULING ELITE who went to the same schools and social clubs as their MASTERS…..trust me the only way mine or 80% of this countries children will get to the top of any industry (let alone the monarchist or govermental one ) will be by sacraficing their time accepting the “NORM” , and kissing the ass of the one above whichever industry they choose…..it`s who you know not what you know
but most children will be lucky to get anything more than e numbers and neglect anyway cos there are so many things distracting them from REAL LIFE……I think given the choice my babies would rather be TRULY free from any form of greed and thats what the ROYALS stand for in my eyes…………They were never elected by ME…!!!!!
used to be proud brit Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 1:45 am
no im not a proud brit no more this place is a s / whole
proud human you answered yourself for me
quote (i do not wish to be “detained” under the terrorist act for going against the country,)lol
i mabe crap at spelling but i aint stupid
canuck rage Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 4:34 am
I hate the brit monarchy and I wish they would get the fuck out of Canada. Anyone who thinks Canada isnt under their control, is a braindead shmuk.
Dave Reply:
July 1st, 2009 at 7:00 pm
It’s okay for the authorities to charge us, the citizens, with conspiracy, but we’re paranoid nuts if we accuse them of it. It’s just slave conditioning.
July 1st, 2009 at 11:33 am
Wasn’t this,like the rest of the ‘CF’ series wildly in breach of the BBC balanced reporting charter? are they not on dodgy legal ground STATING thefour young Muslims accused in the OCT “GUILTY wihout a proper trial? finally they showed some alleged CCTV footage of the four together in London 77…one blurry still ,blink and you missed it! evidence?
July 1st, 2009 at 11:36 am
it was really pathetic. it just concentrated on singling out the wierdos with ridiculous conspiracy theories. not once did it tackle real issues like why was the bus the only bus in london that day to be redirected by police? it just tried to make out that everyone who has a differing opinion to that of which we were fed is completely mad. i think it was just put on to give everybody an understanding that anybody who questions the official explainations is in some form aiding terrorism or provoking it. thats the feeling i got. if it had talked objectively about certain theories that are important people might have been convinced. all it did was to convince me that they dont have answers to our questions and it was just a childish hit piece aimed at name calling and exposing nutters and trying to tar everbody who has questions with the same brush. massive failure on the part of the bbc.
Beavis Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 7:40 am
Yea rite Captain Pish ( what a great handle ). .. or why it was directed to Tavistock Square qv Tavistock Institute….Illuminati mind control Institute, plus the sick advert on the side of the bus. These shits truly are the sperm of Satan.
July 1st, 2009 at 11:57 am
the overall tone of the show was that if you don’t believe the official version your either a nutter, a twitching looney holocaust denier, a potential terrorist or even worse a muslim! i personally thought it was quite a skillfully well made piece of ministry of truth propaganda… the problem is that for those of us who understand how very wrong things are in the world shows such as this only confirm what we already know… that the mainstream media can’t be trusted and is corrupt and rotten to the core.. but for joe average who caught bits of it inbetween flicking about channels looking for porn then it was pretty convincing…. that said it went out at 9pm.. the same time that most of the sheeple will have been watching big brother
Dave Reply:
July 1st, 2009 at 7:05 pm
‘Twitching loone holocaust denier’ – that’s another thing they want people to think, that if you question the Holocaust you’re violent or a Nazi. Even the mainline ‘truth movement’ supports this propaganda for the most part, but the Holocaust upon scrutiny is as credible as the official 9/11 story. Holocaustdenialvideos.com
July 1st, 2009 at 12:59 pm
I thought it was rather good actually. Certainly put some of the silly ideas to bed.
July 1st, 2009 at 1:15 pm
you above, Big Brother’s started
July 1st, 2009 at 1:25 pm
Rather “it did put some silly people to bed!
Don’t believe any thing until it is officially denied
BBC” British Bullshit corporation” is dying….
Respect !
Fair and Balanced Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 5:36 am
Ok, so that story the BBC broke last week about British complicity in torturing suspected AQ was a lie? And when they broke the story of the “sexed-up dossier” – that was a lie too?
If the BBC is dying then it will be replaced by corporate funded “mainstream media” – and then you’ll complain about that. You can never lose when your world-view is so duplicitous.
nobleUK Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 1:57 pm
to be fair bbc news were thrown of the hms invicible for asking ‘demoralizing’ questions @ the outbreak of hostilities/straight up jack of iraq but since then theyve had to tow the line
July 1st, 2009 at 2:05 pm
http://www.thegrandawakening.com/
July 1st, 2009 at 2:14 pm
roll out ano0ther one… the prob is with these programs that only people that know the truth watch them and die in the wool old farts who wouldnt bleive 9/11 was an inside job if you showed them every peice of evidence there is.. most people i know cant be arsed watching that stuff.
i watched it and found it amusing how they give you the info they want you to look at. punch and judy show nonsense. the only thing is that they were trying to demonise even more folk than usual with this tripe.
July 1st, 2009 at 2:50 pm
This bus was specifically rerouted this spot because for a reason. The poor sap that was supposed to be part of the ‘TRIAL’ 0peration, didn’t know that he was going to be blown to fuck. It was rerouted and blown up in Tavistock Square, check out these people, Tavistock Institute……and get the picture. The Ilumminati work on masonic numbers and squares.
July 1st, 2009 at 2:52 pm
This programme was so shabbily put together, that it looked like an overt attempt to deflect people from looking into 7/7. Whatever one believes about the events of that day, there is a legitimate case for a public judicial inquiry. The show, however, made out that anyone who wanted an investigation was a closet Nazi or religious maniac. It used straw men, innuendo and smear to make everyone look like a kook who wanted answers. Why now?
templi Beholder Reply:
July 1st, 2009 at 3:19 pm
I bet there are lots of people who know the truth about these 2 incidents. And who are fretting right now about what will be their fate if they don’t cough up the goods and go public. What a dilemma for them eh? Wouldn’t want that in my life.
Doesn’t pay to work for them. ANY of them.
Beavis Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 7:46 am
Yea templi…..Tony Bliar is shitting his pants. That’s why he wants the Iraq War (!) enquiry in PRIVATE with some hand picked TOOLS.
nobleUK Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 2:29 pm
possbly due to it being 7/7 next wk and that 7/7 ripple effect has exploded after they arrested Muad’Dib they need to discredit the movement possibly
July 1st, 2009 at 3:15 pm
I could not help but feel that they somehow made it so distorted that NO-ONE will gain anything from the show but a “feeling” that it could only have happend the way it was stated in “the” official report…..
also the show started with the beleif that it was going to seek the truth and ended up just being an attack on anyone who refutes the MAINSTREAM STORY…….basically it was an hour of my life wasted……..dont listen to the bbc
Take care out there
July 1st, 2009 at 3:19 pm
Was there any word about the New Zealand nurse who testified to hearing TWO explosions in Tavistock square and is now dead? or themystery maintenance work on that 30 bus pre 77?
July 1st, 2009 at 3:23 pm
Nice one, Steve. Common Purpose is a particularly malicious cancer that’s infesting this nation.
Learn how Common Purpose has subverted freedom and the value systems in Britain in order to shift into the ‘post democratic age’. How they get charity status, I have no idea!
Brian Gerrish for PM, John Harris for our next King!
Also check out http://www.fmotl.com for all the info you will ever need on how to beat the corrupt and deceitful court system, police and bankers at their own game!
Rediscover our Common Law and British Constitution!
asshole Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 2:09 am
chris
The ancient Greek philosopher Sokrates taught his students that the
pursuit of truth could only begin once they start to question and
analyze every belief that they ever held dear. If a certain belief passes
the tests of evidence, deduction and logic, it should be kept. If it doesn’t,
the belief should not only be discarded, but the thinker must also then
question why he was led to believe the erroneous information in the
first place. Not at all surprising was the fact that this type of teaching
didn’t go very well with the ruling elite of Greece. Many political leaders
throughout history have always sought to mislead the thinking of the
masses. Sokrates was tried for “subversion” and for “corrupting the
youth”. He was then forced to take his own life by drinking poison.
Throughout history it has never been easy being an independent
thinker! Today, our ruling government-media complex doesn’t kill
people for pursuing the truth about the world. (At least not that I am
aware.) They simply label them as “extremists” or “paranoid”, thus
destroying their careers and reputations in the process. For many
people this is even worse than drinking poisonous Hemlock!
DOES THAT MEAN SOKRATES WAS AGAINST “COMMON PURPOSE” BECAUSE IT GOOD FOR US
AHAHAHAH
July 1st, 2009 at 3:37 pm
The key to seeing that this documentary is intellectually dishonest is that it did not mention
once that the number 30 bus that blew up was the only one (not the route but the actual bus) to be diverted on that day. The silence on this was glaring and the reasons for it are clear. Trying to explain away that the only bus to be diverted was the one that blew as mere coincidence would be too much even for the Orwellian BBC. Easier by far to practice their devious art by focusing on unimportant points and claiming that these are central to those who doubt the official theory. Throw in a holocaust denier and the pie is cooked to perfection!!
Beavis Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 7:51 am
This is how they queer the pitch. Chuck in Hamas or Holocaust deniers and it fucks up the story everytime.
July 1st, 2009 at 4:53 pm
“far more fair and democratic election that we in the UK,”
It’s MORE THAN, not MORE THAT….
Why are so many morons writing “It’s MORE brute force and ignorance THAT such and such” all the time? More THAN you cretins!!!!!
Beavis Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 7:52 am
Go back to your Wok.
July 1st, 2009 at 5:18 pm
There was an email exchange between Muad’Dib and the BBC people producing the Conspiracy Files program, prior to the “ambush” on the street. Terms were not agreed for Muad’Dib’s participation in the program. He wanted a guarantee that they would show 7/7 Ripple Effect on prime time, and then He would take part in their program. So that even if they did make a hit-piece (like they have done), the truth would already have been shown to the British people.
Then; in full knowledge that terms had not been agreed; they went and started filming Him to use the footage in their program, asking Him all sorts of insinuating and downright baffling questions. This is why He refused to speak a word to them and passed by them. They have no honour.
The makers of this BBC program are liars because they pretended to set out to genuinely appraise the alternative theories concerning 7/7. But that footage of Muad’Dib on the street was filmed a year ago, in Summer of 2008. Did you notice the “reporter” accusing Muad’Dib of lying about innocent people? ONE YEAR AGO?
So they never had ANY intention of being fair, right from the start. They didn’t bother telling you, the viewer, that the footage was a year old, in order to protect the illusion of their impartiality.
Another deception was them presenting the incident they themselves fabricated, as them “exposing” Muad’Dib as a white man from Sheffield. To the hundreds of thousands who knew Muad’Dib or had heard of Him before, this was not a surprise. He has NEVER denied being a white man from Sheffield! But we do not exist or are irrelevant to the British Bullshitting Corporation. The revelation of who He is, is not new at all, and has been publicly available knowledge since TWENTY-THREE years ago, when Muad’Dib wrote the book “The Way home or face The Fire”. If a substantial number of people have only been exposed to this fact now, it has a lot to do with the very same BBC stonewalling Him for all those years until they could no longer pretend He does not exist.
They are now obviously afraid of the impact that 7/7 Ripple Effect is having, and judged that more damage would be incurred by ignoring it than by attempting to colour it the way they want people to see it. The latter being what they set out to do in their program. But; having seen it; I reckon they have shot themselves in the foot. The ripple effect is becoming a tidal wave and cannot be stopped either by them sticking their heads in the sand or by attacking it with weak ad-hominem arguments. All they have done is feed the wave, accelerate it.
Anyone else notice that Canary Wharf wasn’t mentioned even once? I wonder why.
Anyone notice that the interviewer did not ask Peter Power: “if it was only an office exercise with no bearing on what took place, then why did you say ‘we had to jump from slow-time thinking to quick-time doing’?”.
“We had to suddenly switch the exercise from fictional to real” – Peter Power.
http://www.youtube.com/v/JKvkhe3rqtc
“We had to jump from slow-time thinking to quick-time doing” – Peter Power.
http://www.youtube.com/v/sEbUQiYOGjU
Just an office exercise aye Peter??
And how about the laughable assertion that the four Muslim men dropped their ID’s away from the blast locations so that they would be found intact and everyone would know who did it? Talk about clutching at straws aye?
Let’s be clear – if they really were terrorists who wanted everyone to know they did it, then they would have specified their targets in the videos. They would also not have made the videos in 2004 because there would be a risk of the videos being found prior to the attack. They would have filmed themselves the night before the attack, or the very morning of the attack. Leaving ID’s at the scene, when there would possibly be hundreds of other ID’s belonging to other people, would not provide a reasonable signature of who-dun-it. Not to mention that Mohammed Sidique Khan’s ID was found in three separate blast locations according to the official report. This makes no sense unless someone planted it, after the event, and this also was not addressed in the BBC hit-piece. You see, why would two terrorists who wanted everyone to be SURE who did it; according to the BBC; carry ID belonging to a third terrorist, when this would only cause a big question mark in people’s minds about whether or not this meant the evidence was planted by another party?
The Truth MAKES SENSE. Lies don’t. That’s how you know it’s the Truth.
This Conspiracy Files program helped to drive home what is said in 7/7 Ripple Effect about the BBC being a government propaganda organ and that it lies to the British people. For doing such a good job of that, I’m very grateful.
July 1st, 2009 at 7:07 pm
The BBC is enabling comments at their ‘BBC the Editors’ Site; worth a look. Also see the 3,200+ comnents at the “Caught up in a conspircay theory” thread.
July 1st, 2009 at 10:07 pm
There is one point constantly over looked by the authorities, MSM and alternative media.
You might not remember it, you might not be aware of it, or have seen it….BUT I DO!
I remember seeing two senior West Yorkshire Police officers reading a prepared statement on the BBC News, They said that Shehzad Tanweer had left £120,000 in his bank account…Tanweer was 17 when he allegedly blew himself up and he worked part-time in his dad`s chip shop. WYP said the had no idea where the money had come from.
Then the trail goes cold, we must remember that 7/7 allegedly cost around £9,000. We must also remember that the security services said the alleged bombers plotted crimes in order to raise money for future acts of terror…of course, no crimes were committed. We are also told the alleged bombers made several expensive trips to Pakistan…yet they plotted crimes to raise money…lots of contradictions here!!
Anyway, I made an FOI (freedom of information) request to West Yorkshire Police, they delayed and made excuses, but eventually said they had no record of Tanweer`s £120,000 or the WYP statement. WYP suggested I contact the Metropolitan Police, so I did with another FOI request…of course, we had the same delaying tactics, but they eventually came back with the same answer, “we don`t know what you are talking about”.
It is my belief that British Intelligence put the money in Tanweer`s account as part of the plot, but then the plot changed and someone forgot to remove the money and now they are trying to cover it up. There is one other possibility. Two middle aged guys dressed up as WYP officers and then fabricated the entire story, which they read out in front of WYP HQ to BBC cameras….the question is WHY? Why would someone commit such a serious crime to peddle a false story???
There are many sites who claim to dedicate their efforts to finding the truth about 7/7, yet they constantly miss this cherry!!
Because the authorities have covered up this evidence, I`ll have no alternative, but to report possible crimes of impersonating two West Yorkshire Police officers!
July 1st, 2009 at 10:49 pm
I want my mommy!
Beavis Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 8:11 am
You’d sell your mother…if you knew who she was.
July 1st, 2009 at 11:25 pm
Poor workmanship all round I’d say, and these people are being paid to do this stuff. 99% of truthers work for free and still put the services to shame. How pathetic is that. Whatever side you are on, no one can deny this fact.
canuck rage Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 4:42 am
great point. also they have to extort money to do it.
July 2nd, 2009 at 1:14 am
Zionist controll Britain and the BBC! The false flag attcks were carried out by Mossad after first gaining controll of the subway cameras, wich they conveniently turned off.
But people, people…you think this is the best they can do? HAH! This was a simple TEST! To see how far they could go, and still get away with it! Next time they might be trying that out with a NUKE!
But even if they didn’t it would’t make a difference! You think Israel and Britain are in an alliance? Do you honestly think that Jewish Zionists would allie with white christians, and considering as “trusted partners”
9/11, 7/7…MUAHAHAHAHAA!!! Simple tests! To cause wars to keep the west busy. Zionists never liked the “unipolar world order” anyway. They dont like being totally relient on America, that one day might turn against them. Why do you think they have been arming China ever since the days of Henry Kissinger?
Zionists wont be sadisfied untill America and Nato are gone! Or rather drained to death! It’s not really they “hate” the west in any way. They simply want to continue raping the middle-east and treating the local arab population as cannon folder, without having the west interfear in there plans in any way! Zionists grand plan was to make China a superpower. To keep the west busy, and to except the new “Multipolar world order” where Israel naturally gets it’s share of the pie, not dependent anymore on who happens to controll the “white” house. The war with Iran will be the FINAL icing on the cake! To keep the west busy while they continue to rob and rape the arabs! Zionists have stated very clearly that if Israel goes down, the WHOLE WORLD goes down with them! That is why they have stockpiled up to 400 nukes, and half of them will go to Europe, if push comes to shove! These terrorist “attacks” are in reality mossad EXERCISES! They are planning to see western public reaction, so they can use this while planning THE BIG ONES! If the west ever tries to cross with Zion again they will…they will make us all PAY! The west had 2 choices…cotinue down the current path of “controlled demolition” planned carefully by the Zionists, and if the people rise up against them…they BLOW UP EVERYTHING!!! Outsourcing-immigration-endless wars…ALL designed to “bring the house down” You either go down peacefully, or violently! Zionists will “outsource” the entire US-Europe economy just like they did to the Soviet Union! Remember, THEY controll both the European-American centrall banks, AND media! They OWN your house and the news you watch! The Soviets had the guts to treat Jews as second class citizens! Israel would never forgive how they teamed up with Hitler, and how Stalins forces allowed the Germans still after Stalingrad to rampage in Poland killing MILLIONS before they finally “intervened” Israel taught them a lesson!
You think Chinas rise to SUPERPOWER was a simple “coincidence” Kissinger and hes buddies “aranged” that! To profit the US military industry with another enermy…HAH! Even the Pentagon is powerless with the zionists! Zion wants the west to live under eternal arms race and war, and an outsourced economy to weaken it, so no one will ever be able to challenge Israel or push her around again! They have already made that very clear to the “Obama monkey” They will built as many settlements AS THEY WANT! And if the Obama monkey knows whats good for hin, hey’ll stay out of it!
You think the collapse of the United States is caused by a “couple of mistakes” Because America “missed the moment” in Afghanistan?
The Soviet Unions collapse had NOTHING to do with Afghanistan, but with there failing economic and agricultural productioin, and the Solidarity movement in Poland that was related to that. They were already on there knees 10-years before they began to officially withdraw from Afghanistan! Likewise, Americas economic collapse has been CAREFULLY planned! Immigration+outsorching will bring her down to her KNEES, and the Zionists grand alliance with China(western weapons for Chinas communist mass murder dictators)will keep them busy. Afghanistan…it’s just a distraction IDIOTS!!!
Zionism is all about SURVIVAL! And after ther global economic collapse that will rip the west apart like cardboard, Israel aims to SURVIVE AT ALL COST!!!
Fair and Balanced Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 5:46 am
Congratulations – you are an enormous racist!!
July 2nd, 2009 at 2:32 am
Gerard Colby (earlier known as Gerard Colby Zilg) is president of the US National Writers Union where he previously held various chair positions. From 1997-2001 he served as chair of the Vermont section.
He worked on ..
* Du Pont: Behind The Nylon Curtain (1974) as the author. The book was the subject of a landmark federal case that won promotional rights for authors. It was re-released as Du Pont Dynasty in 1984.
* Thy Will Be Done, the Conquest of the Amazon (1995) as co-author with his wife, Charlotte Dennett.
* Into The Buzzsaw: Leading Journalists Expose the Myth of a Free Press (2002) as collaborator. The book is an anthology on the current state of investigative journalism in the US and was a Amazon.com top ten best seller.
Currently (2003) he is working on a book with Dennett about the U.S. in the Middle East.
In 2003 he received the National Press Club’s “Arthur Rouse Award for Press Criticism” for the book Into the Buzzsaw: Leading Journalists Expose the Myth of a Free Press (Prometheus Books, 2002) that was edited by the co-award winner Kristina Borjesson.
Colby has appeared on radio and television and lectured at colleges and national conferences.
He lives in Burlington, Vermont.
[edit] References
* Du Pont: Behind The Nylon Curtain. Prentice-Hall, 1974. 600+ pages,by Gerard Colby Zilg,ISBN 0-13-221077-0
* Du Pont Dynasty: Behind the Nylon Curtain. Secaucus NJ: Lyle Stuart, 1984. 968 pages,by Gerard Colby,ISBN 0-8184-0352-7
* Thy Will Be Done, the Conquest of the Amazon: Nelson Rockefeller and Evangelism in the Age of Oil HarperCollins, 1995, Hardcover. 960 pages, by Gerard Colby and Charlotte Dennett, ISBN 0-06-016764-5; HarperCollins: Janice Temple, 1996, Paperback. 1008 pages, ISBN 0-06-092723-2
* Into The Buzzsaw: Leading Journalists Expose the Myth of a Free Press Prometheus Books, 2002. 392 pages, by Kristina Borjesson as editor, ISBN 1-57392-972-7
HERE IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF ESTABLISHMENT BLACK LISTING AND CENSORSHIP AND COERCION FOR EXPOSING THE CORRUPT AND CRIMINAL ORGANISATION CALLED “DUPONT” NO DIFFERENT TO THE “VATICAN SLOP” AND THE ROCKERFEELA SLOP AND THE ROTHSCHILD SLOP
EXPOSE THE DUPONT DYNASTY AND GET THIS BOOK SCANNED AND ONLINE ITS IMPORTANT !!!!!
July 2nd, 2009 at 2:36 am
IlluminatiKilledMJ Says:
July 1st, 2009 at 6:53 pm
HAVE TO AGREEE, MICHAEL WAS A HIT, A DISTRACTION KOOLAID FOR THE MASSES
TO KEEP EVERYONES EYES OFF THE REAL ISSUES
ITS LIKE THROWING A BONES INTO THE MIDDLE OF A PACK OF DOGS
July 2nd, 2009 at 2:38 am
Well said sir.
July 2nd, 2009 at 3:06 am
DuPont
E.I. du Pont de Nemours and Company was founded in July 1802 as a gun powder mill by Eleuthère Irénée du Pont on Brandywine Creek, near Wilmington, Delaware. Du Pont later evolved into one of the world’s largest chemical companies, and in the 20th century led the polymer revolution by developing many highly successful materials such as nylon, teflon and kevlar. Today, DuPont is a multi-national chemicals and health care company with 2002 revenues of $24.5 billion.
Gerard Colby (Zilg), had written a book on the DuPont family named “Du Pont: Behind the Nylon Curtain”, which was nominated for a National Book Award in 1974. When the first edition came out, the DuPonts played hardball with publisher Prentice-Hall and anyone who dared review the book favorably. Prentice-Hall caved in and slashed its print run and advertising, despite high demand. Ultimately P-H let it go out of print altogether. In 1984 Lyle Stuart re-released an extended version named “Du Pont Dynasty: Behind the Nylon Curtain” that seems also to be under boycott (counting results of a google search).
http://www.stephentvedten.com/.....dustry.pdf …. CHAPTER 14
WHO IS WHO IN THE CHEMICAL (POISON) “INDUSTRY”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DuPont …. E. I. du Pont de Nemours and Company (NYSE: DDPRA, NYSE: DDPRB, NYSE: DD) is an American chemical company that was founded in July 1802 as a gunpowder mill by Eleuthère Irénée du Pont. DuPont is currently the world’s second largest chemical company (behind BASF) in terms of market capitalization and fourth (behind BASF, Dow Chemical and Ineos) in revenue. Its stock price is a component of the Dow Jones Industrial Average.
In the twentieth century, DuPont led the polymer revolution by developing many highly successful materials such as Vespel, neoprene, nylon, Corian, Teflon, Mylar, Kevlar, Zemdrain, M5 fiber, Nomex, Tyvek and Lycra. DuPont has also been significantly involved in the refrigerant industry, developing and producing the Freon (CFCs) series and later, more environmentally friendly refrigerants. In the paint and pigment industry, it has created synthetic pigments and paints, such as ChromaFlair.
DuPont is often successful in popularizing the brands of its material products such that their trademark names become more commonly used than the generic or chemical word(s) for the material itself. One example is “neoprene”, which was intended originally to be a trademark but quickly came into common usage.
Beavis Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 10:44 am
Agent Orange…
July 2nd, 2009 at 4:54 am
I missed it. They’ve gone Digital now. I don’t have a TV for 9 months anyway. Oh my God, My life is ruined. It must be tattooed all over my face. I feel dreadful, I missed a BBC Organ of the State Hit Piece.
The population are ready for more such questions now that we are told the day before this programme repeatedly that we are in the deepest recession for 50 years, contradicting affirmations that actually ‘Green Shoots’ are just around the corner. (Was 60 years formerly).
Come on folks, be like me and give society the heave-ho. Oh no, sorry that’s impossible; since I gave up on society 45 years ago (really!) after the Military Industrial Complex killed my Mother. (She worked for them and died of Pancreatic Cancer).
Maybe it’s on the iPlayer …. Yawn … !
July 2nd, 2009 at 11:16 am
I was in London on that evening for the launch of Nick Kollerstrom’s book on 7/7. It seems they had timed the BBC programme to coincide with that.
The original plan for the launch, in an alternative bookshop, had been mysteriously cancelled, and so they booked a room in the Bertrand Russell room of Conway Hall. That’s in the South Place Ethical Society, and should have been a very suitable venue. Then on the 911forum.org.uk a certain johnnyvoid was putting it about that the meeting had been cancelled, whilst the organiser was insisting that it hadn’t. Clearly there was wrecking going on. When I arrived, a group was being told by officials that the meeting had been cancelled. They told me that the organisers, not the hall had cancelled, but another version on the 911forum was that the hall had cancelled because of threats.
Then the organiser, Daniel, turned up. He tried to get an alternative room at the same place, then said we were going to Plan B venue. That was a Thai restaurant which was closed. Someone said it had been closed for a week. We then moved on, getting lost on the way, to Plan C, which was a tiny noisy room in a pub. Half an hour or so later they arranged for a slightly larger noisy room in the same pub.
Nick gave a brilliant off-the-cuff talk, and we had a question and answer session, under some difficulty because of the noise. Then Daniel gave a talk, not on his book ‘The fourth bomb’, but claiming that the London branch of We Are Change was a British Ministry of Defence front organisation, naming six of its members as working for the Ministry of Defence or MI6. I have to say that absolutely no evidence for this was presented, despite repeated requests for him to do so. This rather hijacked the meeting and dominated subsequent discussion in the 911forum. Today (Thursday), the 911forum is down because of technical problems.
Following the meeting, some of us watched the BBC broadcast, but we couldn’t have the sound on because there was only one sound control for the whole of the pub.
However you interpret the detail, I think it’s clear that there was serious wrecking going on.
On the broadcast itself, as a Brit, I can say that it was probably quite effective propaganda for anyone unaware of the issues. It was about what I’d expected. As regard Brian Paddick’s remarks, I saw that as being ambiguous, and thought it might have been intentionally so. To suggest that the British authorities could have been involved in any such thing over here would be much more outrageous than suggesting that 9/11 might be an inside job. He just could not have gone any further without being seen as a loony. Recently another top cop called for an investigation into 7/7, saying that we should be prepared to “think the unthinkable”.
I think, though, that linking 7/7 to 9/11 was for Mike Rudin a gaff. Enough people in the UK are aware of the 9/11 issue, and take it seriously, for that to sound out some alarms. What the programme has done is to raise the profile of the issue, whilst quite respectable people are calling for an official inquiry. And with Nick’s book, when I’ve read it I should be able to talk to ordinary people about 7/7, though it will be some time before I shall be able to do so as freely as I can now do on 9/11.
Beavis Reply:
July 7th, 2009 at 10:46 am
These Fuckers would shit on their breakfast.
July 2nd, 2009 at 1:23 pm
Having written the piece about the wrecking of Nick Kollerstrom’s booklaunch at the same time as the BBC broadcast, in which I wrote “Recently another top cop called for an investigation into 7/7, saying that we should be prepared to ‘think the unthinkable’”, I heard on the BBC Radio news that that same top cop has now had his book banned in UK shops.
The Times, which has already serialised much of the book wrote, “Copies of a book by Scotland Yard’s former anti-terrorism chief were today removed from the shelves after the Attorney General obtained a last-minute injunction preventing it from going on sale. The ban on sales of The Terrorist Hunters by Andy Hayman was issued by a High Court judge just before midnight after a hearing conducted by telephone conference call. ” See:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/t.....623672.ece .
Someone in the UK Ministry of Truth must be working overtime.
July 2nd, 2009 at 1:52 pm
didnt see it, to be honest these pieces by the bbc make me sick, il try and fight the urge i to throw up i guess its on the propaganda replayer for the sheeples