News corporation uses photo from pro-Ahmadinejad rally, claims it represents anti-government protest
Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet.com
Thursday, June 18, 2009
The BBC has again been caught engaging in mass public deception by using photographs of pro-Ahmadinejad rallies in Iran and claiming they represent anti-government protests in favor of Hossein Mousavi.
An image used by the L.A. Times on the front page of its website Tuesday showed Iranian President Ahmadinejad waving to a crowd of supporters at a public event.
In a story covering the election protests yesterday, the BBC News website used a closer shot of the same scene, but with Ahmadinejad cut out of the frame. The caption under the photograph read, ‘Supporters of Mir Hossein Mousavi again defied a ban on protests’.
The BBC photograph is clearly a similar shot of the same pro-Ahmadinejad rally featured in the L.A. Times image, yet the caption erroneously claims it represents anti-Ahmadinejad protesters.
See the screenshots below (click to enlarge).
“Well I guess it sure was a popular fictional rally for Mousavi, because I later noticed while browsing the news sites a familiar picture on the BBC’s lead Iran story – it shows the same crowd, zoomed in to cut out Ahmadinejad,” a reader told the WhatReallyHappened website. “It is clearly the same protest as in the background are the same tree and odd circular building. However, the BBC managed to outdo the LA times in quality reporting – their actual comment under the photo from the huge PRO-Ahmadinejad rally reads ‘Supporters of Mir Hossein Mousavi again defied a ban on protests’ – a blatant lie and deliberately misleading description of what is actually occurring in Iran!”
As soon as the truth about the misrepresented images surfaced on the WhatReallyHappened website yesterday, the BBC changed the photo caption on their original article. The caption now reads, ‘Tehran has seen mass demonstrations by all sides since the disputed election’.
This is not the first time the BBC has been caught red-handed using crude image and video framing techniques for the purposes of political propaganda.
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During the fall of Baghdad in April 2003, the BBC and other mainstream news outlets broadcast closely framed footage of the “mass uprising” during which Iraqis, aided by U.S. troops, toppled the Saddam Hussein statue in Fardus Square.
The closely framed footage was used to imply that hundreds or thousands of Iraqis were involved in a Berlin Wall-style “historic” liberation, yet when wide angle shots were later published on the Internet, footage that was never broadcast on live television, the reality of the “mass uprising” became clear. The crowd around the statue was sparse and consisted mostly of U.S. troops and journalists. The BBC later had to admit that only “dozens” of Iraqis had participated in toppling the statue. The entire scene was a manufactured farce yet the propaganda technique of blocking wide-angle shots from being broadcast convinced the world that the event represented a triumphant and historic mass popular uprising on behalf of the Iraqi people.
Whatever your views on the legitimacy of Ahmadinejad and the accuracy of the Iranian election results, the fact that the Anglo-American establishment and its media organs are exploiting and fanning the flames of chaos in Iran to provoke further instability is unquestionable.
Indeed, the U.S. State Department, which routinely demonizes the Internet as a tool of extremists and terrorists when it is used to criticize U.S. foreign policy, took the unprecedented step today of requesting that Twitter.com “delay planned maintenance work so that Iranian protesters can continue to use it to post images and reports of unrest,” according to a London Times report.
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June 18th, 2009 at 2:33 am
In every country all over the world. THE PEOPLE are growing weary of the elite pushing them around and telling them what to do. I fear however their anger may be misdirected and used for violence against innocent people, since many in this world dont know exactly WHO is pulling the strings and making money. If we allow violence, greed, and lack of simple human compassion to blind us, then WHAT is the purpose of fighting against the oppressive New World Order?
One thing is for certain however, Tyrannic Empires always topple, imploded by their own corruption. Ancient Greece, Rome, The British Empire, The Third Reich Germany, The United States.
Reconmarine Reply:
June 18th, 2009 at 3:42 am
Why you anti-gov’t scum! You need to man up and join the military and be a tough guy like me, and then you’ll really know what’s going on. We need to do what needs to be done to take on these islamo-fascists that keep blowing things up, and lock up anti-American scumbags that dare call our great nation a “Tyrannic Empire”.
Boy, you’re lucky I don’t call in DHS so you can get the swat-team you deserve for thinking like that.
Uh-Huh Reply:
June 18th, 2009 at 3:59 am
Reconmarine, do you actually get paid to spew this crap or is it just a hobby? Yaaawwn, ah well.
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June 18th, 2009 at 4:32 am
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sanity Reply:
June 18th, 2009 at 7:21 am
i’m sorry i just can’t see this as being right for Prison Planet to report on. this story is a matter of voters right in iran, and BBC has been doing a better job of reporting it than PP and jones and watson have no right to go picking on BBC for playing around with pictures when they A) didn’t give a shit about iranians until they thought they had a hold on B) a bullshit story about a mistake made with the pictures.
so what if they used the same picture? has it swayed anyone’s opinion in general? what the fuck is watson trying to say? is he supporting ahmadinejad? that would be the biggest “fuck you” to ppl against global wars and fascism ever seen on PP.
to be quiet honest, i’m disappointed. there was a perfect opportunity to make a fake sensationalist story out of the Air France deal. then, PP headed out to D.C. for some press conference, which they’ve neglected to publish anything about. then, there was the shootings by racists all over the country who have been identified as conspiracy theorists, and PP didn’t bother to cover that either. NOW, only NOW, is PP trying to start blabbing about “new world order” by showing that BBC was doing a better job in covering current issues in world news than they are. i don’t know about the rest of you folks, but this stinks of bullshit all over.
god bless the protesters in iran, regardless of what photo they appear in.
fuck this shit.
Dave Reply:
June 18th, 2009 at 7:22 am
Dude it’s called sarcasm, that’s not really the reconmarine guy it’s the other person who parodies him.
warren buffett Reply:
June 18th, 2009 at 3:43 pm
That’s the fake Roconman.
Andrew Reply:
June 19th, 2009 at 3:15 am
Reconmarine
Your ignorance is overwhelming your first in line to get your flu shot aren’t you. I was in the military and I was ignorant and helped manage funds for a little exercise called vigilant warrior later I found out it was an exercise to deceive the Fighter Pilots that scramble to eliminate terrorist threats which occurred on 9/11. Military doesn’t pay you to think nor do they tell you what the truth is. Alex researches and digs deep for the truth and gives it to us with source documents to back up what he says. Oh yeah I was in the marines and OOhrah to me means BRAINWASHED, man up you say HA! your part of a crime syndicate funded by bankers and the global elite have fun with your contract.
Wez the Aussie Reply:
June 19th, 2009 at 3:22 pm
I’d say it’s probably a hobby. A paid shill wouldn’t be so obviously ridiculous.
Support peaceful demonstrations Reply:
June 21st, 2009 at 10:59 am
Well maybe they could have used pictures of the MILLIONS of Iranians in the streets who are supporting change in their governemnt instead.
PP is WAY off the wall here supporting theocratic, cheating government of a guy that could easily lead Iran to war with the west and has absolutely no respect for human rights.
What’s up with PP? It is sick, and I’m with Sanity on this one (his post above).
BTW Reply:
June 18th, 2009 at 4:14 am
Btw, before anyone starts crawling up this trolls ass, because of his “service” to our country you should read this first:
“REGARDING THE TROLL “Reconmarine”:
Any Active Marines or Former Marines out there? If you want to get a laugh regarding the troll named “reconmarine” please listen to his fraudulent story here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..re=related
I could not keep track of how many times he lied and made stuff up about his Marine Corps service. Again, if any “real” Marines wants to see a TROLL wiggle in his nasty lies just listen to him describe his supposed service in the Marine Corps. Again, any real Marine who has served in a fleet Marine Battalion can smell his lies right off the bat. Little pussy pretends to be “Force” Recon.
I was going to debate this idiot but now I know for sure, 100%, that he never served a single day in the Corps. Waste of my time. The guy is a fraud and liar. I am always amazed at the psychotic ability of some people to lie and pretend to be someone they are not. Sad & Pathetic.”
Andrew Reply:
June 19th, 2009 at 3:18 am
Force Recon doesn’t mean anything if you represent a global crime syndicate called america’s military.
itssoobvious Reply:
June 18th, 2009 at 4:26 am
http://www.prisonplanet.com/ac.....dence.html
Just go look for yourself how he states that we should all be “arrested and re-educated.” I called him out in this yesterday, he came back and said it wasn’t him.
Hey reconfag, there is a picture right next to the name. If it is not you, then someone sure has you pegged.
Oh, and your video? Well, it is boring and not good.
lol Reply:
June 18th, 2009 at 5:40 am
Lock up anyone who disagrees with you huh? You think thats the “American” thing to do. That sounds more like what they do n some communist country. I think youre either a pinko, a parody, or a straight out dumbass, Recon. I also think you have never served a day in our military, because you dont know your ass from a hole in the ground as far as the armed forces are concerned.
Many patriots shed their blood fighing fascists just like you who would tow the line of a system HELLBENT on destroying the American way of life, wiping your ass with our Constitution, and stamping out the American dream. All enemies of our country shared your same dream of “locking up and torturing those who disagree” Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Augusto Pinochet, Saddam Hussein, Reconmarine. Birds of a feather flock together.
Im sure youd have anyone who disagrees with you wear a gold star too, huh. People like you humor, frighten and sadden me. You humor me because your vision of freedom sounds exactly like slavery. Frighten me because people you really do come to power and KILL alot of innocent people, and sadden me because if this murderous way of life is truly your twisted vision of America, them i guess i am “un american”, because I am against violence and genocide. The rebellious and righteous blood of our forefathers runs in my veins and it terrifies you.
TRUE patriots refuse to obey a tyrannical system, a runaway government that has long since tossed its citizens overboard. A system of banking elite that taxes us to the point of destitution. A system that cannot wring enough money out of everyones pockets to satisfy its greed and corruption. TRUE patriots speak up when they feel something is wrong. Not clam up as you do, and bend over. Telling the bankers to ram it deeper this time, youre not in debt enough. You wanna be able to scream Ben Bernankes name when he does it.
YOU are NOT a patriot reconmarine, youre a nationalist. A loyalist to the government that has hijacked The sovereign Nation of the United States of America. By your own definition George Washington, Thomas Jefferson and John Adams are “terrorists” By your own definition you are an admitted TRAITOR to the United States.
Had this battle taken place in Colonial times, I bet you would have been Benedict Arnold.
agreed Reply:
June 18th, 2009 at 5:51 am
Reconmarine said:
“……..We need to do what needs to be done to take on these islamo-fascists that keep blowing things up, and lock up anti-American scumbags that dare call our great nation a “Tyrannic Empire”…….”
Yeah thats exactly what tyrants don’t do, abuse their power and lock up anyone who says they are evil, power hungry and wrong.
The way you can contradict yourself in a single paragraph is simply beyond amazing, and defies the simplest of human logic. You are simply off your rocker.
Dave Reply:
June 18th, 2009 at 7:24 am
Do you really think the reconmarine guy would write “You need to man up and join the military and be a tough guy like me”. I know his stuff is normally pretty over the top, but this is clearly not written by him. It’s by the dude who writes this stuff as him all the time, it’s pretty damn funny.
World is sick of its leaders Reply:
June 18th, 2009 at 6:05 am
Your waste of tax dollars called the DHS cant find a 6 foot 5 inch tall CAVE MAN on KIDNEY DIALYSIS, whos supposedly “the most violent, dangerous terrorist leader in the world” let alone me, who speaks not of violence, but of opposition.
Spare me your fantasies of world genocide of anyone who disagrees with you. Youre nothing but a troll who spams this site constantly on every single subject. You have no life other than that of a forum troll. I bet you dont even have a job. Im probably paying extra taxes just to fund your internet account and welfare money.
if anyone is Anti-American Reconmarine, it is you. Your views are against everything this great country stands for.
Doc Freedom Reply:
June 18th, 2009 at 6:51 am
“Worlds” reply is right on!
Jerusalem Reply:
June 18th, 2009 at 11:49 am
World…the fact that they can’t find the ”Caveman”, just happens to describe my chain of thought the past week. I also have been thinking about the fact that they havent been able to find the mom and her 3 year old daughter, who took off and disappeared with a known sex offender recently. Now think about the fact that the gov’t has us all sitting here petrefied with fear, because we ”know” that they can trace, track, watch our every move, and be at our doors in 5 minutes, if we try to hide when things get rough. Are we sure they COULD? Then why cant they find that little girl and her mom? Are we certain that this ability of the gov’t, is not SIMPLY PROPAGANDA??????????? Anyone????
Red Reply:
June 18th, 2009 at 7:11 am
I do hope that Reconmarine was joking and that that reply was dripping with sarcasm because that is the most unAmerican thing I’ve heard in a looooong time!
reconmarine Reply:
June 18th, 2009 at 4:39 pm
Ha ha, you know me too well and what a prankster I am!
Yes, my REAL attitude is truth, justice, and liberty for all. And, of course, plenty of s’mores and ice cream for anyone who wants them. Nothing says happiness like s’mores and ice cream! Personally, I prefer my s’mores with rocky road, but if you should happen to prefer strawberry, that’s alright, too.
Dyne Reply:
June 18th, 2009 at 7:31 am
Threatening harm against a person for exercising his freedom of speech? Sounds like talk coming from a stooge working for a tyrannical empire.
bonkers Reply:
June 18th, 2009 at 7:36 am
reconmarine is just a lonely girl that needs a good piece of a**.
Try a broom,madam mama
bonkers Reply:
June 18th, 2009 at 7:57 am
reconmarine is just a lonely girl that needs a good piece of a**.
Try a broom,madam mama.
Post you pic. my dog id lonely too.
Leslie Reply:
June 18th, 2009 at 8:18 am
look, reconmarine removed his picture. guess the guy that said you looked like a monkey in another blog got to ya. DON’T EVER TALK ABOUT BEING MILITARY. MY FATHER FOUGHT AND DIED FOR THIS COUNTRY SO I COULD QUESTION WHAT THE LEADERS ARE DOING WITH THIS NATION. IT IS MY CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT, ALONG WITH EVERY OTHER UNITED STATES CITIZEN. Let me reiterate: YOU MUST NOT BE THAT IMPORTANT TO YOUR MILITARY IF YOU HAVE TIME TO BE ONLINE POSTING TO BLOGS.
THIRD PARTY Reply:
June 18th, 2009 at 8:38 am
reconweaknessmarine,you are a typical uneducated retardocon.
reconmarine Reply:
June 18th, 2009 at 4:49 pm
Not anymore! I’ve been attending adult education classes at night and it’s done wonders for me as I can now spell correctly and I no longer use pidgeon-english grammar, usually, although admittedly, sometimes I still slip up as you’ll see for yourselves. I’ve discovered that one is never too old to learn and I would recommend to everyone to keep cramming knowledge in your noggin for as long as you can. The more you know, the less you don’t know.
RECON!!!
Hoo-rah!
Midnight Mint Reply:
June 18th, 2009 at 9:17 am
Reconmarine, I’m so sorry you so brain washed that you think that there is nothing going on and people with the freedom of speech is expressing and providing documents and the truth to teach the people what is going on in the world and that your taught to think us “Americans” are the terrorist…your suppose to be protecting us not them were standing up for people who cant get a voice out.. were protecting them because people such as yourselves are brain washed to think were the enemy, now let me ask you somthing if your mother was part of the “movement” to speak up for others would you attack her and subject her as a terrorist? probably because, your taught to think for the NWO, Royal Blood Families.. If you were intelligent as you think you are.. before you start spewing your bs on us… and your penny threats do your F***ing history.. Were not telling you to “TAKE OUR WORD ON IT” but go and do your damn research with proven documents that can back your a** up because if you can’t then… your just as convincing as Glenn Beck which the majority of people can actually tell that he is working for the “elite” that’s why i don’t trust FOX News, CNN, CBS, ABC, and all them controlled Media Networks and never will.
By the way.. here some key things you might want to research while your doing your finding on the repeated history research.. that was not taught in school but only mentioned; “Bilderberg” “Bones and Skulls” “FEMA Coffins” “FEMA Camps” “Bill Hicks” “David Icke” “Prescott Bush” “Illuminati” “Google Search: Naval Amphibious Base in Coronado, California” “King Gorge III” “Rockerfellers, Morgans, Rothchilds, Aldrich and Warberg” “Behemoth Group” “Flight 93″ “9/11th Truth” “We Are Change” “Freemason” “Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger father (Gustav S.) was a Nazi” “SR/JR Bush are both Bones Men from B/S Brotherhood” “Religion and its Multilevel Branches of Multi-Religion” “Donald Rumsfeld father General Feld Marschall Maximilian Freiherr Von Weichs” “Jesuit order” “Queen Semiramis Slave Queen of Ancient Babylon” “Chemtrails” “Royal Blood Family Tree” “Building 7″ “9/11 inside job (Professors claim that the free fall speed was controlled? signs of Bomb explosion to create pancake effect to fall at free fall speed[9.8 seconds]) “93 landed in cleveland, OH at 10:45am) “Cathy O’Brien” Marden Bush, Jr. Bush’s Brother who worked for “Secoracom/Stratistec” He was board and director from 1963-2000 a security company for airlines.. “Black Water Private Military/Mercenaries” “Blair Freemason” “Moloch” “Dr. Looses License for cureing AIDS/Cancer” Obviously the people who are greedy dont want people to get better they want them to deal with the virus/cancer and pay them money for 100,000+ drugs to take that does barely anything for the cause.
“The American Dream Never Happend. The American Nightmare is Here.”
Daniel Boone Reply:
June 18th, 2009 at 12:16 pm
That a way to tell’em! Also go to Rense.com and look up “To Kill A Tree-Conclusion-The War On Humankind” and check out “Albert Pike” and the Illuminati connection and manipulation of the Free Masons. Do your homework son before you call others out!
DB-
Daniel Boone Reply:
June 18th, 2009 at 12:19 pm
That last comment from Daniel Boone was aimed at “ReconnMarine”.
Daniel Boone Reply:
June 18th, 2009 at 12:30 pm
Also “Reconnmaring” you have brothers here amongst you who care and love their country, but we cannot buy into deception and we are all doggedly determined to get to the bottom of things and cast out the architects of all this chaos and corruption and pain….Wake up man…We all need to work together. All we are about is getting to the absolute truth….What is happening is not normal.
Ray Reply:
June 18th, 2009 at 9:19 am
If being a man is rapping little boys in front of their mothers and then rapping the mothers… no thanks. I will stick with my civilian job and really help the society instead of going after invented and fictional bogeymen fabricated by the CIA.
Anthony Reply:
June 18th, 2009 at 10:54 am
didn’t get it…who is doing that? all of them?
keep on doing what your doing and contribute…K.I.S.S.
reconmarine Reply:
June 18th, 2009 at 4:59 pm
Hi, Ray. That’s “raping” not “rapping”. Rape is doing something grossly unacceptable to another person. Rap is speaking in rhymes while a record keeps being moved back and forth in rhythmic patterns .
I’ve been attending adult education classes at night and I’ve been learning how to spell. No dog is too old to learn new tricks!
RECON!!!
Hoo-rah!
Jerusalem Reply:
June 18th, 2009 at 11:32 am
Recon…..I’ve been reading your posts, and have only one thing to say. You may be fooling all the rest of these people, [ or maybe not], but you arent fooling me, for one single minute. Your ”role” is kinda ”cute”, yeah, provides laughs, but soon you will need to get serious, cause the ”prophetic timeclock” is running away with us.
dookie-barrell Reply:
June 18th, 2009 at 12:07 pm
Recon Marine is lost, and not to be found.
Daniel Boone Reply:
June 18th, 2009 at 12:10 pm
Hey fucking idiot….Why don’t you shut your ignorant dumb ass up?
Paul (MN) Reply:
June 18th, 2009 at 12:22 pm
Once this is all over Government will be obsolete.
Retartedrecon Reply:
June 18th, 2009 at 1:40 pm
Hey recon why don’t you call DHS then he can sue you direct. You don’t seem to understand much and locking up people that say were going tyrannical is tyrannical.
So reconlatrine your an fbi agent right?
BobSam Reply:
June 18th, 2009 at 3:29 pm
You are a Nazi shitbag.
hawkeyej85 Reply:
June 23rd, 2009 at 10:58 pm
You are truely a dumb ass!!! You are the kind of person who believes it is better to do more evil so you can have your way of life. FUCK YOU! You want war I bet you’ll get it dumb ass when the USA invades Iran I bet nukes will FLY!!!
Rings True Reply:
June 18th, 2009 at 3:43 am
What you say above rings so true. It’s very refreshing. In fact, I would say you have a lot of potential as a leader yourself with that kind of vision.
I can see very clearly that the real battle with humanity today is not so much in trying to arrest everyone in the NWO, but it is in learning to think straight. If enough people could start learning to think clearly and objectively, then the NWO’s power would quickly evaporate.
As for “many in this world dont know exactly WHO is pulling the strings and making money”. I would refer you to this statement “People in their IGNORANCE THINK that their future lies in the hands of their political leaders and their governments, little realising that their politicians and governments are today but the puppets of the Old Sorcerers, a relatively SMALL group of totally unscrupulous men whose only desire is for TOTAL power over, and who themselves are but the servants of the Dark Forces, of which there are ten representatives in the world – five in the East and five in the West.”
I cannot prove whether it is true or not, but I have seen enough of the big picture that this statement provokes a visceral response in me. The above statement came from here: http://tinyurl.com/kvxs3o
David Reply:
June 18th, 2009 at 5:45 am
How in the hell are we supposed to believe that the most domineering men on the planet are friends who are sharing power with each other? This whole NWO thing is an infant idea. We graduate into understanding once we realize how powerful our own minds are.
Doc Freedom Reply:
June 18th, 2009 at 6:52 am
“Rings True” reply is also very clear and appropriate.
bonkers Reply:
June 18th, 2009 at 7:43 am
I agree with most of what you are saying, except I know when you say evil men there has to be a few wo-men in charge also.
Jerusalem Reply:
June 18th, 2009 at 11:54 am
Strangely enough…..NOT.
rik thomas Reply:
June 18th, 2009 at 8:46 am
yeah, we need some help here in the united states. really! reconmarine, who is now getting smart enuf to charicature his own charicature – if we believe him- is an internationalist equal opportunity mercenary shill. he wants to serve with mexicans, canadians, aussies etc. in killing american citizens. the enemy of decency and humanity has taken over most of the official guns and war hardware of the US war machine. reconmarine likes torture, lies, murder and bankrupting the US. that’s true as god is our witness.
you see reconmarine, we’re not going to serve the devil anymore. we remember what we were taught about the nobility and background of the constitution and bill or rights and we have absorbed the truth of the gospel. we don’t know everything, we know little, but we know we will not die against the greatness we have inherited. we are becoming americans…
god bless us and forward now!
there is no more time to wait. stand up and say what needs to be said and take your stance.
Tim Reply:
June 18th, 2009 at 12:19 pm
I’ve been following this story very closely, researching it from every possible source to get first hand accounts. The information coming from Twitter, Facebook and various other sources are showing the seeds of a peaceful revolution against tyranny.
What will the end be?, I have no idea. But it appears these demostrations that pack the streets are far more than just minor politcal protests against elections fraud, but cries for Liberty & Freedom. The pictures and video coming in from Iranian people is not of 100’s or even 1000’s but hundereds of thousands, packing the streets as far as the eye can see.
This is looking very much like the Iranian revolution of 30 years ago as the support of the people is mounting, even in the face of execution as declared by the official Iranian gov’t.
We are also now seeing a split among the Mullah’s of the supreme ruling council who elect the Ayatollah.
I ask that we all keep the Iranians who are seeking Liberty & Freedom in our hearts and prayers.
The Iranian people have never been the American people’s enemy the same as the American people has never been the Iranian people’s enemy. They desire Freedom & Liberty the very same ideals as the founders of our Nation. Freedom & Liberty are fundamental to all mankind in our struggle to maintain and secure our most basic of human rights. The turth is, we all have a common enemy, the oppressive policies of corrupt people who seek power to deny us all Liberty & Freedom.
charles Reply:
June 18th, 2009 at 9:04 pm
reconmarine is a well known idiot on this website
hes a patriotic sheeple.
remember patriotism is a type of racism.
uncleeddie Reply:
June 21st, 2009 at 8:44 pm
Dumb Dumb Dumb Dumb. The Alex Jones Sunday show makes everything clear. Iran is still under constant CIA attack. The people of Iran are between a rock and nuclear attack. Any revolution with a 1984 color attached ends in even more fundamentalist control. However if that event doesn’t happen Obama will have to bail out those naughty Israeli’s who kind of went over the edge with a major bombing attack on Iran. Unfortunately some eggs (millions of Iranians) will be broken. But as promised Obama will bring real change.
blobfromslob Reply:
June 18th, 2009 at 11:24 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....annel_page spawn of 9-11
D. Ramesh Reply:
June 20th, 2009 at 7:16 am
These are the signs of rot and decay of the Briton.The Britons were the pioneers of false propagana to suit their convenience.One feels happy that they been branded again as liers.Will the World Body take appropriate action against the persons involved in this racket!Similarly action is required against the Americans who are spreading racile discimination against nonwhites!
john Reply:
June 22nd, 2009 at 6:54 am
HELLO they are not from the same photograph,
a 5 year old could see that
how can you change the angle of a photograph, the lighting is completly different
the crowd looks different, where’s the man stood on the railings taking the photo at the front of the crowd & the bbc’s photo is of better quality, tbh it could be a photo from any event, but not the same one thats in the Lame Ass Times which is probably not even from the recent election
i generally agree with the majority of stuff on this site but this one is complete crap
June 18th, 2009 at 2:56 am
Nice to see my Licence Fee money is being put to good use. The BBC has a long history in aiding the Imperialist aims of the US and the UK in that part of the world. In 1953 the start of the coup that toppled Mossadegh was signalled by a broadcast on the BBC World Service. The role of the British is often overlooked. (Source Web of Deceit: Mark Curtis)
The role played by the BBC and CNN have been particularly important in the so called Colour revolutions. A must read is William Engdahl’s timely new book “Full Spectrum Dominance” that explains this in greater detail than I can express here.
bonkers Reply:
June 18th, 2009 at 7:49 am
I personally do not think Iran is evil in the seance that it has bad evil leaders; because if Iran was the usa and england they would round up all cnn bbc reporters and waterboard them under the excuse that they are terrorist, now would not they do so in a heart beat.
June 18th, 2009 at 2:58 am
Yeah I believe you. Looks like in Iran their ready to kick the shit out of the Knights of Maltah. The Knights of Maltah control the Fed which in turn is controlled by the Vatican. Arrest the bankers? More like arrest the Knights of Maltah and bring the Vatican to justice.The USA will be free from this tyranny once the Knights of Maltah are defeated and the Vatican is held accountable for it’s world deception. This will ultimately put Alex Jones to rest as the police state really does not exist but The Church state does. . . . . in due time your path leads to me.
JC Reply:
June 18th, 2009 at 3:15 am
Oh come on, You know you’re only BSing yourself. It goes beyond one group, one religion, one side. It’s a -global- problem, remember that.
Dave Reply:
June 18th, 2009 at 7:29 am
Nah it’s the Zionist Jews at the top.
Dave Reply:
June 18th, 2009 at 7:30 am
People who say it’s the Vatican just confuse things so that people like Alex can then say “it’s not just one group”. It’s not, it’s Jewish people who are running things. Has the fed chairman been a representative of different groups in it’s existence? No, it’s always been a Jewish person.
Warship Reply:
June 18th, 2009 at 9:11 am
Nah… its the Reptilians. lol
T7.62 Reply:
June 21st, 2009 at 12:50 am
Whats a Jew?
rik thomas Reply:
June 18th, 2009 at 8:52 am
steady boys. instead of fighting phantoms, go to your heritage. who are you?
what does it mean to be an american? the whole world is watching and moving.
lead.
Jerusalem Reply:
June 18th, 2009 at 11:59 am
”UP, BARAK! For this is the day in which the Lord hath delivered Sisera into thine hand; is not the Lord gone out before thee?” So Barak went down from mount Tabor, and ten thousand men after him. [Judges 4;14.
insantiy Reply:
June 18th, 2009 at 6:31 am
Number 1 – Where’s your evidence that the Knights of Malta and the Pope rule the world? Just out of curiosity?
A great way to bring yourself closer to the truth is to hold yourself accountable for what you post.
Number 2 – The NWO is like a murderer breaking into your house at night. Tell me, does it matter if they are Jewish? Catholic? Muslim? Communist? GET THE GUN AND DEFEND YOURSELF. It doesn’t matter who it is – the solution is the same. Wake up to the fact that we are being set up for control network, depopulation, and enslavement. The documents of many think-tanks, UN organizations, and symposiums prove this beyond a shadow of a doubt – and the actions of our politicians are incrementally making it a reality.
It doesn’t matter who is behind it – the solution is to undermine this system they’ve created with real freedom. Freedom is not a concept, a thought, a virtue – it is a way of life. It is self-sufficient, self-reliant, independent, personal responsibility on all matters from economics to defense, decentralization of the economy and structures of governance. We have the technology to organize ourselves – Senators, big government, and even corporations are antiquated structures that are about to go extinct – hence the bailouts and over-regulations.
insantiy Reply:
June 18th, 2009 at 7:11 am
On a side note – there really is still an Order of the Knights of Malta. The history is amazing, and the fact that they are still around since the 600’s AD is notable. If they are politically active, I’d say its in a supportive role. They don’t seem to have the capacity to be dictating to anyone – nor did they ever during their history. They are an arm of a smaller cog at best – so it seems.
http://www.orderofmalta.org/english
Dave Reply:
June 18th, 2009 at 7:33 am
As a group there’s no such thing as ‘the NWO’. NWO is the name of the plan for world domination, not the people behind it. It’s the Zionist Jewish international bankers who are the ones behind it.
T7.62 Reply:
June 21st, 2009 at 12:55 am
What is a Jew? Who is a Jew?
T7.62 Reply:
June 21st, 2009 at 12:53 am
It does matter who is behind it.
June 18th, 2009 at 3:07 am
I knew what was happening with this election before the results even came in. It was obvious that the entire thing was being set up from the moment a bomb went off at one of the mosques in Iran, I knew at that moment that the US were trying to do something to change iran from within. Mousavi is the US’s guy. He is the new Saddam Hussein, the puppet bought and paid for to change Iraq from the inside to do the wests bidding and he has the full backing of all the wests media, ONLY this time it will backfire upon the US in a spectactular way as the majority of people in the world today are more aware of what is going on today thanks to the internet. The truth will come out about this whole saga before the year is out and the US administration will have rotten egg on their faces.
densz Reply:
June 18th, 2009 at 3:46 am
You’re right, they will have egg on their faces, but the problem is that faces are all they are. Egg on your face is a good example, if you put your face in the hole people can throw pies, eggs. someone gets hit, get a new face. We need to take the screen down.
bonkers Reply:
June 18th, 2009 at 7:55 am
yea the shit that cnn and prime time news networks in the west is spewing out make most people sick and you turn it off.
rik thomas Reply:
June 18th, 2009 at 9:11 am
maybe maybe. hold your fire, boys. but move NOW. do what you need to do. don’t worry about mortagages and jobs so much. you gonna hang onto all that until the FEMA camp?
get local and radical. break the mind control. don’t plead or depend on the system. get your neighbors together to meet your needs. do it now.
it’s too late to be stupid or shy. don’t threaten anyone, but get your neighbors together.
the emergency is now. it’s a hot takeover as alex says. break the power of the local government.
set up more and more independent systems of neighbors.
whatever you need to do personally. do it now. don’t die hanging on to nothing.
alex has given us a road map back to our founding documents. to the bible. add to that what you know today. break the personal mind control and make the new choices.
those who are hopelessly dependant on the system will die. they cannot conceive of anything different.
rik thomas Reply:
June 18th, 2009 at 9:23 am
it is as alex has said: the system has shown nothing but the intent to kill you. be honest.
now, to understand that, you are going to have to have alternatives.
the alternative is you. shake out the cob webs. do your best, but don’t depend for even one moment on the system. the system is ready to kill you. now. if you become very afraid and you lose your head, we can’t help you. we can’t carry anyone with us. we are not against anything.
;do what needs to be done now. step by step and day by day. if you need to read the bible for a week alone, do it. whatever. do what is neccesary to center yourself. be calm and remember all those who have shown a way. if you can’t do it, no problem, god bless. the time will come when you will say, “no, i won’t do this.” they may be telling you to get a death shot, a vaccine.
they may be asking you to inform on your neighbors. you may go to a public meeting and realize you must speak up. you are not going to change anyone’s mind, now it is about our eternal soul it seems to me.
god bless
June 18th, 2009 at 3:37 am
BBC : YOU DIRTY ROTTEN FILTHY BASTARDS
June 18th, 2009 at 3:42 am
Also watch out: the BBC is trying to get people to build support for right-wing Nazi Party the BNP.
Fair and Balanced Reply:
June 18th, 2009 at 5:32 am
That’s utter nonsense. The BBC is viewed by BNP supporters and their ilk (the kind of people who post theories of Jewish control and the like on here) as a pinko liberal multiculturalist leftist organisation. Nothing could further from the truth. It’s even run documentaries where undercover reporters have exposed the BNP leader’s blatant racism.
bollocks Reply:
June 18th, 2009 at 6:29 am
total bollocks. they dont get enough coverage!
Champion Reply:
June 18th, 2009 at 10:24 am
The BBC trying to get people to build support for the BNP? You are out of your fucking mind.
jp Reply:
June 19th, 2009 at 4:18 am
BBC – Big Brother’s Cheerleaders
June 18th, 2009 at 4:15 am
I think every person that reads this article should spread it far and wide on the internet just to get the word out that BBC is Full of Shit
June 18th, 2009 at 4:37 am
So where is the verticle black speaker system in the supposed fake picture the BBC portrays if this is a sham? Yes, because crowds of people never get pissed off in the same place twice. Logically, then Washington D.C. protests have never existed either.
bonepeeler Reply:
June 18th, 2009 at 7:40 am
Nice. Sadly it falls on deaf ears here…
June 18th, 2009 at 4:42 am
Secondly, why is the flag count different in the BBC photograph?
June 18th, 2009 at 4:43 am
The media creates the reality it wants the public to believe.
Hitler lead the way with propaganda, and the NWO liked what they paid for.
June 18th, 2009 at 4:51 am
BBC is populated by toilet pondscum,99% of the entire corporation are pedestrian supremacist wannabees ,hard core marxist government secret service (10%)ten percenters and outright government stooges. Coupled with that the cabal behind this Nazi propaganda outfit got the compromised government to tax every television owner and have the money given to them.But then again, the British, mostly like to be servants becuase the in awe of the ‘ superior blue blood’ masters. and will remain so. For the record, the entire ruling classes of the UK are pure European nobility. None of them are originally form the UK. The common stock UK citizen are subjects of the Queen AND HAVE BEEN made to believe and accept that they are lesser mortals. The blue blood rulers are the surviving flotsam from the scum of nasty prussian debris that most of Europe have earlier beheaded as in france or literally cremated and buried for their tyranny. It’s only in decaying England that they have managed to continue causing trouble, but rest assured that inbreeding, poor genetics,corruption etc have laid seige on them severely and once the queen croaks, it will be literally good night to their nerve center, as the remaining family are to mediocre to remain relevant.
rik thomas Reply:
June 18th, 2009 at 9:41 am
the whole ruling structure is a hologram. it’s in our heads. money is just pieces of paper.
do you get that? center yourself.
what in gods name do you thing jfk, mlk, bobby, and malcolm were talking about?
why the hell do you think they were killed?
we don’t have to be them or jesus, we just have to get the message and stop serving the system that has now reached end times. get ready for…. what? the rapture. 2012? aliens? planet x?
the road map is here already. we are here. you are here.
here you are. you are no longer an accomplice in the matrix. you have seen the matrix.
there is nothing specific to be done…, for everyone. everyone is now responsible for themselves.
who the hell are we? that is the question the NWO has brought to us. that is their work and they have worked hard to help you get to this point. to be a human under god.
the rulers and those who serve them are caricaturing themselves and you.
they keep desperately hoping you will show them how to be a human. they have given up.
okay men under god. who is your god?
June 18th, 2009 at 4:53 am
Third I assume the picture the L.A. Times used has changed for some reason yet this picture no any other is found in the June 16th article. Nor is it found in any of the photo galleries…I smell something funny about auto suggesting the BBC has faked the photographs without any substantial proof thereof. This is almost as bad as a No Plane Theory quaff.
June 18th, 2009 at 5:13 am
what if it’s just that someone messed up and couldn’t find the right picture and tried to wing it?
d Reply:
June 18th, 2009 at 8:19 am
yeah, that’s probably what happened…news people are lazy and do things like this to save time….I mean how many times have I seen photographs on PP articles that are not related AT ALL to the article???? Too many to mention.
June 18th, 2009 at 5:23 am
Looks to me like they made a simple mistake, hardly the dark art of propaganda. There are plenty of legitimate pictures they could have used which would have got the message across just as well so why not use them? It’ll be some picture researcher not doing their job as thoroughly as they should – not the dark hand of foreign office interference.
People make mistakes in articles on here all the time and they later get corrected. It’s no big deal.
June 18th, 2009 at 5:30 am
bbc at it again http://whatreallyhappened.com/.....ideos.html
June 18th, 2009 at 5:31 am
http://www.facebook.com//video.....amp;ref=nf
erm… the BBC are full of propaganda but if you actually look you will see that there are millions on the streets in teheran and accross the world protesting this election fraud despite the brutal backlash of the regime… bet you americans wish you could have bothered to leave the house when you lot were cheated of your right to vote….
June 18th, 2009 at 5:38 am
It’s not even the same image..
The perspective is different
The protesters are different
The number of windows open on the building in the background are different.
There are balloons in front of that orange sign in one image but not the other.
Just a few examples…Lots of differences if you actually look at the image.
craig Reply:
June 18th, 2009 at 12:52 pm
erm sorry to correct you here but there is such a thing as taking shots from different angles during the same protest at different times so theres bound to be differences.
June 18th, 2009 at 5:47 am
The BBC is a disgrace- how the British are willing to pay for this crap is beyond me.
Our False Prophet appears to have no idea what a golden opportunity he is passing up… overthrow this evil regime without firing a single shot… get their Armageddon-inspired nuke program off the world stage… and free 30 million people all at one time.
But the boy wonder is too stupid to see it… or somehow just doesn’t care?
And isn’t this what George W Bush told you was going to happen in the Middle East?
Maybe that’s why Barack Obama has so little apparent interest in finishing the job in Iran… no matter how much it benefits the US and free world.
http://reaganiterepublicanresistance.blogspot.com/
Urban Moving Systems Reply:
June 19th, 2009 at 5:03 am
Ronald Reagan was a pathetic coward who allowed ex-CIA head Poppy Bush run his criminal foreign policy. im amazed at how many people still fawn over that pathetic establishment shill Ronald Reagan.
June 18th, 2009 at 5:53 am
Glad to see someone mentioning TV license on this – everyone is paying for a system to lie to them – as proved by the retraction of the pic from the article when highlighted.
Fuck the government, fuck the media!
Lets get people that want to do an honest job into these positions
Lets get people that are passionate about these industries in there to provide non biased views & give all sides of issues!
June 18th, 2009 at 6:04 am
It used to work – this sort of propaganda. It still does get plenty of idiots out from under their rocks and causing trouble – but its now unsustainable. If something doesn’t happen in the first 24-48 hours – nothing is going to happen. Too many people will figure out whats going on, the money used to bribe or pay protesters and organizers starts to run dry and the illusion falls apart.
This is the end of the elitists – caught red handed and losing credibility faster than they can create another crisis. They are wondering now whether they should pull the “big one” whether they will be immediately found out or if that is their very last chance.
I got news for them, they will be found out immediately, and instead of inciting a war between America and our brothers and sisters of freedom elsewhere in the world – we will mostly likely join together to ferret out the scum infecting our nations once and for all.
Its the elitists – pulling our strings – screwing with the economy – stoking the fires of war and manipulating us all into empty pockets and early graves after a brief, empty existence.
End these people – bring our troops home back where they belong – patch things up with these people around the world we have exploited and manipulated for centuries. We’ve got more in common with our declared “enemies” than the scum doing the declaring.
jp Reply:
June 19th, 2009 at 4:24 am
I agree
June 18th, 2009 at 6:16 am
way to go you scum of the earth bbc another criminal gang of rich greedy lazy lying arrogant pigs
June 18th, 2009 at 7:05 am
I’m all for fair reporting, but this article is inaccurate. If you study the images closely you will notice the crowd is not the same. Look specifically at the flags in the crowd. On the Ahmadinejad image there are orange and green flags all over the place. On the second image there aren’t any. The first image was taken in Valiasr square on June 14, 2009, a pro Ahmadinejad rally. The second on June 16th in the same square, another rally organised by the government. This isn’t the same event.
Getty images (the source) caption’s the second image as follows: Unrest Continues After Iranian Presidential Elections. http://www.gettyimages.com/det.....mages-News
The LA Times image is not a Getty Image, but Getty also covered the event: http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/88491213/AFP
Even if it is correct that BBC captioned the image incorrectly (and lied) it is also not correct that the image on BBC is a crop of the image on LA Times.
If we’re seeking the truth we need to make sure that we have the facts first.
Dave Reply:
June 18th, 2009 at 7:34 am
Okay but if you’re right, it’s still the same premise right? A pro-Ahmadinejad rally presented as an anti one.
Fran Reply:
June 18th, 2009 at 9:26 am
Absolutely. The BBC definitely misrepresented the facts. My argument is that it doesn’t help the truth cause to point it out with “bad” facts. Not checking facts could end up discrediting the truth movement more than it discredits the BBC or other elitist controlled media.
June 18th, 2009 at 7:49 am
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June 18th, 2009 at 7:50 am
“Reconmarine Reply:
June 18th, 2009 at 3:42 am
Why you anti-gov’t scum! You need to man up and join the military and be a tough guy like me, and then you’ll really know what’s going on. We need to do what needs to be done to take on these islamo-fascists that keep blowing things up, and lock up anti-American scumbags that dare call our great nation a “Tyrannic Empire”.
Boy, you’re lucky I don’t call in DHS so you can get the swat-team you deserve for thinking like that.”
What the hell kind of bullshit garbage reply is this??? Nobody that regularly reads what Alex Jones has to say would post this trash. “Join the military and be a tough guy like me. then you’ll really know what’s going on” HAHAHAHAHAHAHAhahahahahahaha……………..
(catching breath)…… bwahhhhhhhhhHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. that’s exactly what we need – brainwashed idiot tough guys who will rat their free-thinking fellow americans out to the Unconstitutional Department of Homeland Security. seriously – is this guy for real, or what? sounds like a fake to me.
Reconmarine Reply:
June 18th, 2009 at 8:19 am
Relax, Gary, im just angry because im GAY FOR SPIDERMAN.
I want him to shoot me in the sphincter with his webbing.
Ker-pow!
reconmarine Reply:
June 18th, 2009 at 5:05 pm
Ha ha! Just kidding!
June 18th, 2009 at 8:20 am
not a fake just a plain ol idiot
June 18th, 2009 at 8:31 am
FUCK MYSELF
June 18th, 2009 at 8:32 am
IM SUCH A DUMBASS
mikey Reply:
June 18th, 2009 at 7:14 pm
Hear hear
June 18th, 2009 at 8:40 am
recon,change your post mane to sphincter boy.
June 18th, 2009 at 8:41 am
lest we not forgert the BBC editing out a truth 9/11 banner from the live aid concert on the 5 second delay
l Reply:
June 18th, 2009 at 8:46 am
i forget. link please?
jp Reply:
June 19th, 2009 at 4:34 am
…editing OUT ??? What about the editing IN, of building seven’s ”collapse” before it was ”pulled” ??
The BBC are run by and for elitists……it’s only fools and paid trolls, that don’t know this.
June 18th, 2009 at 9:35 am
Come on, its not the same picture.
Tread Reply:
June 18th, 2009 at 10:46 am
What, are you serious?
June 18th, 2009 at 9:37 am
Brits are brainwashed to think they are smarter than Americans.
craig Reply:
June 18th, 2009 at 12:37 pm
have you actually had a conversation with a brit?
jp Reply:
June 19th, 2009 at 4:44 am
I don’t think so……but I’d bet my ”bottomed” dollar that they are smarter than you !
June 18th, 2009 at 9:40 am
Heard an interesting news story this morning mentioning YOUTUBE. It said Youtube is relaxing its ban on graphic videos so the world can see the violence in Iran. (Yet here in American they’re shutting down Alex Jones and censoring 9-11 Truth videos.) All of the sudden YouTube cares about this sort of thing. This makes is clear to me that there’s a hidden agenda.
Sleazy P. Martini Reply:
June 18th, 2009 at 9:54 am
The agenda isn’t hidden from me
Champion Reply:
June 18th, 2009 at 10:27 am
Hidden? Clear as fucking day for anyone with a functioning braincell or two.
June 18th, 2009 at 10:30 am
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June 18th, 2009 at 11:03 am
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June 18th, 2009 at 11:11 am
I am just sitting here LAUGHING at you people.
You wacko’s believe EVERYTHING is a conspiracy. E V E R Y T H I N G ! ! !
You do it to yourselves ya know. Every time a major, important world news event comes out, all of a sudden there’s a major conspiracy hiding the truth and America is always the bad guy.
Man I would HATE to be you paranoid nut jobs.
1984 Reply:
June 19th, 2009 at 12:29 am
USA is undoubtedly involved in this. You’d have to have your head in the sand not to understand this.
jp Reply:
June 19th, 2009 at 4:51 am
”USA is undoubtedly involved in this. You’d have to have your head in the sand not to understand this.”
…..or up someone’s ass !
lol
T7.62 Reply:
June 21st, 2009 at 1:11 am
Question everything. Start with the translation of the word America.
June 18th, 2009 at 11:15 am
Haven’t read all of the replies, but as a Christian, I can tell you that The Bible says there will be unrest and take-overs, and all that you can name, and it is happening. Stay close to Jesus, and please, don’t curse me, nor Him. He is your reason for being, and He is still in control of all. He is the only way. Listen to Alex. He knows what is going on. There is nothing that we can depend on our leaders for. Not anymore. Love to all.
Peter Orwell's 1984 UK Reply:
June 18th, 2009 at 12:08 pm
Jennilynde,I do not know Alex Jones but I do like his web site and what he does write,I make my own mind up.Some people talk bad about Alex Jones and I am aware of what they say,however I feel I must point out to everyone that “IF” there was a God “IT” would hate,first the Chosen of the Synagogue of Lucifer’s viper’s and then all of the human race with WMD and the brain span of ant’s.Please do not dispair and I wish all of you a happy and peacefull life.
June 18th, 2009 at 11:47 am
To all you who put your comments here at Alex Jones web site,please try to understand,first your tv and your news papers belong to the Chosen [they understand Goebbels way] In Orwell’s 1984 little UK the Goebbels Chosen BBC and the news papers are the same,have a nice day.
June 18th, 2009 at 11:52 am
Every time an empire falls it is the “end of a world.”
Did anyone mention the BBC announcing the collapse of WTC7 around 20 minutes before it happened?
Did anyone mention the original propaganda role of the BBC during WW2? They had a guy to deliver all Churchill’s nightime chats because the brave leader was too drunk.
We are dealing with a crime/banking ring that is over 200 years old and has been manipulating reality for years.
An Ike/Rense, http://rense.gsradio.net:8080/.....09_hr3.mp3
or Ike/Jones exchange will help in establishing a context.
BTW the stuff about the shape-shifting reptilians …? It was a metaphor for psychopaths.
But it helped keep Ike safe because he could be dismissed as a nut case.
June 18th, 2009 at 12:24 pm
Sorry, here is the link for the conversation between Alex and David Icke (forgive the spelling in the previous post.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/th.....-icke.html
June 18th, 2009 at 12:42 pm
AJ’s website claims:
“In a story covering the election protests yesterday, the BBC News website used a closer shot of the same scene, but with Ahmadinejad cut out of the frame”
This is clearly not true upon close inspection of both photos. It’s not the same crowd, it’s not even the same day. While it could be an example of BBC’s sloppy / lazy journalism, the claim that the BBC is intentionally engaging in deceptive propaganda is unprovable, and unfounded.
And the jump to conclusions by the AJ crowd and their association with Ron Paul is EXACTLY what makes the liberty movement look bad and unpalatable to the mainstream.
After stunts like this, is it any wonder they call use conspiracy cooks?
You are a shill Reply:
June 18th, 2009 at 1:11 pm
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/s.....p?t=196431
June 18th, 2009 at 12:49 pm
everyone that i know here in england knows that the bbc are the media arm of the gov. afterall it is part funded by parliment and the rest is funded by the tv license which you can refuse to pay AND you can also refuse the tv license inspectors entry into your house so that they cant check if you have a tv(for those of us who live in the uk and have no idea you can do this). the general public in this country have a tendency to wear blinkers and follow the line given out by mi5 news plants in the tabloids(alex has exposed this previously)so as far as im concerned this is obviously an attempt to force a passive regime change in iran.
to judy: yes i’ve always known that the bbc was used to transmit coded signals to resistance fighters in europe and yes i have seen the footage of wtc 7 before it collapsed, this is old news but its still worth mentioning.
June 18th, 2009 at 12:53 pm
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June 18th, 2009 at 1:06 pm
This Iranian election just seems wrought with fraud. Seems to me like Del Dover has the best take on it I’ve seen yet – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5doiiGgcGGM
June 18th, 2009 at 1:30 pm
It doesn’t look like the same scene…
The BBC picture is missing all the flags/banners, so are you sure it’s only a closer shot???
June 18th, 2009 at 1:35 pm
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June 18th, 2009 at 2:09 pm
The Brits are known as pathological liars and morbid when it comes to propaganda and falls news. They have screwed the entire world for the last three hundred years and are still active with USA as their protective shield.
The only regret is that the Germans and the French are not bothred despite the fact that the Brits screw them as well, from time to time (last Iraq war is a good example – remember fredom fry and the destruction of French wine in the streets of USA).
Now with China, Brazil and other emerging nations the history may be changing for better alternative. Let us pary.
June 18th, 2009 at 3:33 pm
For More BBC lies have a look at the “BBC, The Editors” site and see the comments on a number of threads relating to conspircaies and 911. Examples are “No mystery” and ‘Caught up in a Conspiracy theory” which commenced when Mike Rudin did a hachet job on the “911 self styled truthers’.
In the ‘Mystery solved’ segment Rudin claims that NIST had finalised their report and found ‘no mystery’ with the No 7 collapse. Of course after that, NIST admitted to 2.25 seconds of free fall and the 9 scientist led by Niels Harrit have published their paper on the finding of thermitic residue in the dust of the twin towers.
The BBC will not advise the British people of these developments and leave the false information on the record.
It woud appear pretty clear who now controls the BBC and it is not the British people who pay all the licences fees to keep it going,
Time to ban the BBC until they correct the false information provided by Mike Rudin and condoned by the BBC and free themselves from sectional lobbying.
June 18th, 2009 at 3:35 pm
i agree with you Dave
June 18th, 2009 at 6:28 pm
LOL,
We know all the countries use media propaganda.
Iran and the missile photo. China and the train photo by wildlife.
When you put the Iraqi and this blunder together, you go O.K. a simple reporter error.
Then you ask people how this reporter error happened on 9/11???
You know..the one where the girl reports WTC 7 going down before it ever happened.
She could have saved a lot of lives if she used those same psychic powers to predict the Twin Towers getting hit.
And yet people still cannot believe.
June 18th, 2009 at 6:31 pm
I think we have been tricked into thinking that Iran is ‘evil’, it’s part of the lead up to the third world war really….Iran and her Islamic neighbours going to war with Israel. Also if I had spy’s all over my country im pretty sure i would implement the same kind of methods, i mean come on, western counties can send agents over there and when they get found and trialled we go crazy?! like that stupid cnn or fox reporter and those British troops way back. they get caught spying and we go ‘YOU CANT DO THAT!’ ‘GIVE OUR GUYS BACK!’
mikey Reply:
June 18th, 2009 at 7:17 pm
Who installed the shah again?
June 18th, 2009 at 8:56 pm
In fairness, there is a chance this could have been the work of a lazy intern as well.
June 18th, 2009 at 9:07 pm
Uncle Sam needs your help
http://www.pentwhistle.com/
June 18th, 2009 at 11:32 pm
What i find shocking is i thought pp would do a much better job covering the situation in iran. I am an iranian and a regular pp visitor for years now. but this is not cool, Iran is on the verge of revolution and it seems no news site wants a thouroughly report on it. CMON Pp.
June 19th, 2009 at 12:47 am
What Iran needs is stability and development of infrastructure. Ahmadinejad can deliver that and has the intention to deliver it. Destabilising Iran and the Ahmadinejad government plays into imperialist designs for triggering chaos in the Middle East.
“Voters rights” are not as important as the right of Iranians including future generations to development of their nation. Get the British Empire out of Iran and out of the Middle East.
Even if elections were suspended for the next 20 years so that Ahmadinejad can get on with developing the nation – especially including civilian nuclear energy on a grand scale – then that would be fine. In fact, it would be a good thing – good for Iranians present and future. Pakistan’s situation is similar.
Elections are often used by the British Empire as an excuse to interfere with nations’ development and to oust dirigistic leaders. The British Empire uses accusations of “genocide” for similar purposes.
June 19th, 2009 at 12:54 am
Anyone remember when the BBC reported that building WTC 7 had fallen – but in clear view behind her was WTC 7 still standing!
Trouble is that everyone won’t just down tools & refuse to work until change happens & the scum bags of government (not all politicians) & pig media moguls (again not all of them) get the hell out! Until WE stop everything – because WE are the cogs in this machine – the operators will continue run us as they like by feeding us this crap!
Imagine if that happened – the elitists would actually panic, WE have the numbers – We have the power but are lead to believe we have none. Well my Tax money pays for this government to build more nuclear weapons & machines of war & I have no say whatsoever in the matter. People are homeless & starving in this country (Obviously not the the extent of africa or other 3rd world countries) but it is an issue – stop making bombs & bullets – make shelters & useful building to help with this problem. Pump more money into the NHS (these people are the real heros of life – not a soldier blowing stuff up in a country that DID NOT attack the UK or the US (Iraq, Afghanistan – Soon to be Iran?!) – I appreciate our military forces, they are the best in the world, but lets start thinking about solving our problems at home before we take Democracy to nations that are built on religion & tribal law – Democracy won’t work there – It doesn’t fucking work here!
All it takes is for us to start making the government ask us for permission to use OUR money to fund their wars – ofcourse we would say a big resounding NO! pretty soon it would become apparent – the rogue element of the givernment would not have OUR money to fund their bloodlusts.
June 19th, 2009 at 1:38 am
On Monday morning on BBC Radio 4’s Today programme (07.15 am) when discussing Ahmedinejad’s rally, BBC reporter Jon Lyne warned us, “Not get into a numbers game”.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/e.....5_06_2009/
On Tuesday morning on BBC Radio 4’s Today programme (07.12 am) when discussing Mousavi’s rally, BBC reporter Jon Lyne proclaimed, “Huge numbers, maybe even as many as two million”.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/e.....6_06_2009/
Until I hear the BBC explain their definition of hipocrisy, I don’t know how I can anymore trust them when it comes to reporting this issue.
June 19th, 2009 at 2:07 am
They are not the same rally. One of them is an Ahmedinajad rally, the other one is a recent rally organized by the clerics, which Ahmedinajad was not at, look at the photo posters they have.
June 19th, 2009 at 4:11 am
While there may be some validity to your questioning the BBC’s veracity, it is eclipsed by your obvious mistake: They are clearly not the same rally…
June 19th, 2009 at 4:34 am
Excuse me, but you all need to just chill out and not even respond to “reconmarine” because from the little that I have seen he was probably Not a Marine, Not a Recon Battalion Marine, and certainly not a Goddamn Force Recon Company Marine. So please, when you answer “Alleged reconmarine” don’t disparage MY Marine Corps. This guy seems to be one of many who probably washed out of Boot Camp (Usually 60% don’t make it) and is the perfect example of a Wannabe who chose the Marine Corps finest. For the record, I served in 1st Recon Bn, and in 1st Force Recon Company, Camp Reasoner, Danang Vital Area.
Recon Bn. and Force Recon are quite different, Battalion units are in support of Regiments while Force Recon,which is both Para and Scuba trained, for a larger “Force” such as a reinforced Division with three Regiments in the field of battle order (i.e. Initial attacks in Iraqi Freedom with 1st Marine Division, Reinforced). Force Recon usually is controlled by the Fleet Marine Commanding Officer not just the Division CO, where Recon Battalion would be spread out to screen the movements of the 3-4 Battalions of each Regiment. Recon Battalion’s CO would report to the Commanding Officer of the Division. I hope I have shown my credentials are valid.
Any Soldier, Marine, Sailor, yes even Air Force and Coast Guard, Reservist or Active duty personel who are serving their country is doing their job. I served with the best in the Marine Corps but I respect every man or woman, even gay, lesbian, WHATEVER who serves our country. Let us not disrespect anyone or give the time of day to those who cannot abide by this axim. I thank all of you who serve now or have in the past, BUT also all of you who support our great country. And it is AahRuhRah like the Submarine horn called a Claxion that signals that the sub is diving. This is heard on all the old movies about submarines, Recon Marine both Battalion and Force know this from training for beach recon missions. Semper Fi to all.
June 19th, 2009 at 4:46 am
Oops I made a typo “Recon Battalion” is usually in support of a Division not just a Regimental Force. Force Recon usually has longer range reconnaissance missions than Battalion. There are several great books on the campaign of the 1st Marine Division’s epoch longest attack in Marine Corps history, In the case of Iraqi Freedom, the 1st Marine Division’s 3 Regimental Forces probably had elements of 1st Recon Battalion attached to each Regiment’s Command. Some younger Recon Marine will have to give more info on this as I believe that a Light Reconnaissance unit now exists that uses fast moving vehicles. I am from the Old Corps in ‘Nam, but as ‘Chesty’ Puller once famously said, “Old Corps, New Corps, its still the Marine Corps”. Perhaps some other REAL Recon Marines can fill in the gaps.
June 19th, 2009 at 5:15 am
Hey RECONMARINE how can you be so stupid? D
June 19th, 2009 at 5:52 am
marinelurp
Any Soldier, Marine, Sailor, yes even Air Force and Coast Guard, Reservist or Active duty personel who are serving their country is doing their job. I served with the best in the Marine Corps but I respect every man or woman, even gay, lesbian, WHATEVER who serves our country. Let us not disrespect anyone or give the time of day to those who cannot abide by this axim
Sorry pal, but saying they’re just doing their job by blowing up innocent civilians is poor.
And the part about not giving the time of day to those who abide by this axim – is another way of saying “Shut up if you’re not with us”. that is not FREEDOM that you claim to love & protect – that is Oppression – you are over riding anyone elses opinion & voice by making that statement.
Why were America in Vietnam? how was America under attack? How was America’s freedom under threat? & you got your asses handed to you by a superior enemy – they had knowledge of the terrain, weather – pretty much everything. There was no reason for America to get involved & all of those soldiers on all sides involved to die for a war that wasn’t your to put your noses into.
I’m sure you are going to comeback with a remark or whole diatribe about how your buddies died (of which their death was needless & premature, most definately pointless) but just saying you were just doing your job is a mute point because soldiers are human, humans have the will & CHOICE of saying NO – but all those that went to Vietnam didn’t & those that did say no were branded cowards or communists – obvious showing of a system that uses ignorance to perpetuate itself – meat for the grinder so to speak!
If you are in the Army, Marines, Navy, air Force – it is a service to the country – & I think that word – SERVICE – needs to be reminded to those in the SERVICE – you are not the authority & you wouldn’t have your nice uniforms, guns & bombs without the mass population slaving away to supply you with those things – so stick “Let us not disrespect anyone or give the time of day to those who cannot abide by this axim” where the sun doesn’t shine – oh yeah thats right – you’re a Yank that went to Vietnam – so you think the sun does shine out of you ass!
June 19th, 2009 at 3:10 pm
Im not surprised at all .
Iranians demonstrated outside the BBC headquaters in London against its evil propaganda but the BBC did not show such demonstration . i waited 2 days < checked the Arabic BBC too nothing . i cant even bear to watch the Arabic BBC (which is normally ok to watch ) it is so biased against Iran . they want to do the same thing they did for General Mossadeq and replace him with another pUppet like Mr Pahlavi . NO more , iranians are too proud to tolerate another Puppet , like we have in the Arab world unfortunately .
June 19th, 2009 at 3:12 pm
look at the round Building with the orange banner on it , it is the same Picture , photoshoped by the BBC , they simply deleted Ahmadinejad and his platform .
June 19th, 2009 at 9:39 pm
Just got an email from Heather Smith of Rock the Vote. She says that “Young Iranians have taken to the streets to make their voices heard. Stand with them in their fight for basic rights. This week voters in Iran led an uprising at the polls, but vote suppression and fraud has cast the results in serious doubt. And now people are dying in the streets and in university dorms to have their votes counted
Sign our statement of support with the Iranian people who want free and fair elections I stand with young people in Iran and across the world in support of free and fair elections and against voter suppression and censorship. Last November we were free to dance in the streets or stew at a bar. We could text our friends and update our facebook status. We could get uncensored news online and on TV. It was a free and fair election Votes were counted and our country had a free and fair transition of power. Right now it is the opposite in Iran, there is no free flow of information – text messaging is turned off., Facebook is disabled, journalists are told they face grave consequences for filming the protests. This is nothing less than a fight for democracy and basic human rights. Our generation is leading a young voter revolution at home and abroad, and we will not let oppression get in our way. Show your support for the young voters in Iran. Go to our website sign our statement of support and then upload your message to young Iranians through videos, pictures and text. You can also get an image of support to post on your Facebook and Twitter profile pictures (At Rock the Vote we’ve already changed ours.) We will compile your messages and get them to young people in Iran. (Trust us we know people) We stand in solidarity with those protesting and dying for fair elections, free speech and a life free of oppression. I hope you will too. Rock the world. Heather”
Tell me why I am feeling nauseated. What are they up to? Are they trying to use these people’s responses to push for a war with Iran? At least on this one they didn’t ask for money. Can somebody generate a petition or statement that says we don’t want to destabilize Iran. That we are aware of their lying propaganda. They have that huge list of people who donated to the campaign. I wish I wasn’t one of them. I wish I could get my money back.
June 19th, 2009 at 10:40 pm
this is a test
June 20th, 2009 at 6:16 am
BBC are dirty commies, help Britain by voting and promoting the BNP. They will get ride of the trash!
We are trying to set up a similar nationalist group in Canada
June 20th, 2009 at 8:51 am
hi
I AM an IRANIAN LADY.
I surely say that AHMEDINEJHAD cheated in this election against all the iranian people which chose and loved MIR HOOSEIN MOOSAVI as their predsident.
he is the great lier.and he and MR.khameneii.the LEADER of IRAN with the help of ARMY dont let peple even protest freely for their rights.
please say all the world:Ahmedi nejhad Is a lier…terrorist
all iranians hate him.
he is against the people.we all love Moosavi as the President of us
T7.62 Reply:
June 21st, 2009 at 1:35 am
What government on this planet is for the people? Agendas are disguised and people are deceived.
June 20th, 2009 at 8:52 am
کسانی که این روزها شاهد مناظره احمدی نژاد با میر حسین موسوی بوده اند چیزی را مشاهده کرده اند که شگفتی هر کسی را بر می انگیزاند. احمدی نژاد بی باکانه و بر خلاف قانون، هاشمی رفسنجانی ریاست مجلس خبرگان رهبری، امام جمعه موقت تهران و رئیس تشخیص مصلحت و نیز ناطق نوری رئیس بررسی مفاسد از جانب رهبری را غارتگران بیت المال خواند بی آنکه بیمی از عواقب کار خود داشته باشد! در این میان برخی مردمان ساده اندیش ایران نیز که هنوز فکر می کنند هاشمی مرد قدرتمند سال های پیش است به استقبال سخنان احمدی نژاد رفته وی را قهرمانی می خوانند که هاشمی را به مبارزه می طلبد. اما به راستی در جمهوری اسلامی چه خبر است؟ پشت پرده این ماجرای شگفت آور که مشروعیت کل نظام جمهوری اسلامی را به خطر انداخته چه گروه یا کسانی بوده، چه هدفی را دنبال می کنند؟ آیا آن طور که بسیاری می پندارند این ماجراها و زیر سوال رفتن حاکمیت سی ساله انقلاب توسط احمدی نژاد را صرفا باید در حد یک کنش محدود انتخابات ریاست جمهوری دید و یا اینکه قضیه به پروژه ای بسیار فراتر بر می گردد؟ این نوشتار بر آن است که ثابت کند هدف احمدی نژاد و حامیان قدرتمندش چیزی فراتر از پیروزی در انتخابات ریاست جمهوری است و به عبارت دیگر هدف ایشان تغییر نظام جمهوری اسلامی به حکومت عدل اسلامی است که در آن حتی این جمهوریت نیم بند نیز وجود نداشته باشد!
ادعای کلان نوشتار حاضر: در زمان حیات آیت اله خمینی، آیت اله مصباح یزدی روحانی ای بود که به خاطر سوابقش چندان مورد اعتماد آیت اله خمینی نبود اما با درگذشت وی، با حمایت آیت اله خامنه ای، مصباح یزدی به تدریج قوی و قوی تر شد تا امروز که هدف دیرینه خود در نفی جمهوریت را نزدیک می بیند. نخستین بار در نیمه نخست دهه هفتاد، مجله شما – ارگان حزب موتلفه اسلامی- پیشنهاد تغییر جمهوری اسلامی به حکومت عدل اسلامی را مطرح کرد اما به واقع کسی که نظریه پرداز این نظریه بود نه موتلفه بازار که آیت اله مصباح یزدی بود. برای درک عمیق تر موضوع، باید ابتدا دو قرائت عمده پر هوادار نظریه ولایت فقیه در میان هوادران این نظریه را معرفی کرد:
1) بر مبنای نظریه نخست که متعلق به آیت اله جوادی آملی و حامیان وی است ولایت فقیه در واقع ولایت فقها است. اگر ولایت فقیه را آنگونه که وی تبیین می کند بپذیریم آنگاه علاوه بر شخص خاص رهبری در این زمان، آیت اله خامنه ای، دیگر فقها نیز هر یک به فراخور شان و جایگاه خود سهمی در این نوع حکومت خواهند داشت.
2) نظریه دوم، نظریه ای متعلق به آیت اله مصباح یزدی است. بر مبنای این نظریه، ولایت فقیه، ولایت شخص خاصی است که در واقع به زعم ایشان نایب امام زمان بوده، فرامین وی بر تمام مراجع و… ارجحیت دارد.
پس از این مقدمات باید وضعیت گذشته و فعلی را تبیین کنیم: مصباح یزدی که با حمایت شخص رهبری آیت اله خامنه ای توانسته است شاگردان و هواداران بسیاری را به گرد خود جمع کند از اوایل دهه هفتاد در پی اجرایی کردن نظریه خود بوده است. در نظریه نخست تا حدی برای جمهوریت -هر چند نیم بند- جایی وجود دارد اما در نظریه مصباح، جمهوریت در بهترین حالت خود یک تزیین و آرایش به شمار می رود. جناح راست حاکمیت با رهبری فکری مصباح و رهبری سیاسی موتلفه در سال 76 می رفت تا رویای مصباح را جامعه عمل بپوشاند که با شوک انتخاب خاتمی و حمایت هاشمی رفسنجانی، این پروژه برای سالها دچار وقفه شد. به تدریج و با انتخاب احمدی نژاد، حامیان مصباح کوشیده اند با ریاست اجرایی احمدی نژاد پروژه خویش را پی گیرند با این تفاوت که در طول این سالهای وقفه، صف بندی های جمهوری اسلامی دچار تغییرات اساسی شده است. هاشمی که خود را به نوعی همتراز رهبر می دید از همان دهه هفتاد حساب خود را از این پروژه جدا کرده بود و از این نظر همواره مورد کینه باند مصباح قرار داشت اما بخشی از محافظه کاران از قبیل ناطق نوری، حسن روحانی و.. نیز به تدریج و با تجربه سالیان و دیدن خطرات آن برای کشور از این پروژه جدا شده اند.
در اینجاست که با پیروزی احمدی نژاد دو صف بندی بزرگ در جمهوری اسلامی ایجاد شد. یک سوی صف بندی، اتحادی نصف و نیمه از حامیان نظریه جوادی آملی با رهبری فکری وی و برخی مراجع تقلید، هاشمی رفسنجانی به عنوان رهبر تکنوکراتها و تا حدی رهبری سیاسی و نیز اصلاح طلبان تشکیل شد.
در سوی دیگرمیدان، آیت اله خامنه ای به عنوان رهبر سیاسی، مصباح یزدی رهبر فکری، سپاه به عنوان بازوی نظامی و احمدی نژاد به عنوان رهبر اجرایی قرار داشتند. این گروه که با حذف اصلاح طلبان اعتماد به نفس فراوانی یافته بودند کوشیدند در قالب پروژه پالیزدار و با افشای سوابق فساد هاشمی و دیگر حامیان محافظه کار آن، این بخش از حاکمیت را نیز از حکومت حذف کنند. این پروژه برای خود جنبشهایی مثل جنبش عدالت خواه و… نیز تاسیس کرد تا نبرد قدرت را حرکتی مردمی نشان دهد اما پالیزدار که عضوی از ستاد احمدی نژاد بود اما حاضر به معامله بر سر دزدی نبود به جای اجرای پروژه رسواسازی هاشمی و هوادارنش کوشید کلیه جریانهای فاسد را بر ملا سازد. او در این افشاسازی به شعارهای خوش رنگ و آب احمدی نژاد نیز دل بسته بود اما به خاطر افشای فساد باندهای هر دو گروه، پروژه حذف هاشمی در آن مقطع تعطیل و پالیزدار عضو سابق ستاد احمدی نژاد به زندان فرستاده شد. در ادامه ماجرا، جریان مصباح با حمایت احمدی نژاد وارد انتخابات ریاست جمهوری دهم شد تا پروژه ناتمام را کامل کند که ناگهان با اقبال مردم به خاتمی روبرو شد. این گروه که از اقبال خاتمی و عدم توانایی میر حسین در جذب رای بالا مطمئن بودند کوشیدند با ترفندهایی، خاتمی را مجبور به کناره گیری کنند اما با افزایش محبوبیت موسوی، جریان مصباح متوجه شد که توان پیروزی در انتخابات را ندارد و در صورت تقلب وسیع نیز خود به خود مشروعیت حاکمیت به زیر سوال می رود و بنابراین تصمیم گرفت در پروژه ای زیرکانه، با زدن هاشمی و ناطق به دو هدف برسد:
این جریان کوشیده است از یک طرف با متهم کردن هاشمی توسط احمدی نژاد بر محبوبیت احمدی نژاد بیفزاید و از سوی دیگر با متهم کردن او می کوشد پروژه ناکام مانده به دست پالیزدار را تکمیل کند. اگر رهبری جمهوری اسلامی از حضور کسانی مثل موسوی نیز ممانعت می کرد پروژه ایشان بدون حضور مردم و لذا با مشروعیت زدایی از حکومت به انجام می رسید اما آنان برای حفظ ظاهر به حضور مردم احتیاج داشتند. از آنجا که احتمال پیروزی موسوی ایشان را مجبور می کرد که برای پی گیری اهداف خود به تقلب وسیعی روی آورند که قابل پنهان کردن نبود ایشان که از سو ظن مردم به هاشمی آگاه بودند کوشیدند با اتهام به هاشمی هم او را ناموجه تر از پیش ساخته در موقع مناسب از حاکمیت خارج کنند و هم بر رای احمدی نژاد افزوده، تا نیاز کمتری به تقلب باشد و با درصد کمتری تقلب به پیروی برسند.
اما در این میان نکته مهمی که مغفول می ماند آنست که با متهم کردن هاشمی و به ویژه ناطق نوری، مشروعیت جمهوری اسلامی به شدت مورد تردید قرار می گیرد که البته اتحاد مربع برای آن نیز فکر ی اساسی کرده است. اینان پس از انتخاب احمدی نژاد، گروه هاشمی را حذف کرده به مردم اعلام خواهند کرد که آیت اله خامنه ای از مدتها پیش به دنبال حذف این غارتگران بوده که در نهایت با کمک احمدی نژاد موفق شده است و بدین طریق، احمدی نژاد نیز به قهرمان ملی تبدیل می شود.
اما چرا آقای خامنه ای باید به دنبال حذف هاشمی، ناطق و.. باشد؟ آیا این حذف به دلیل فساد ایشان است؟ جواب به این پرسش منفی است چرا که در طیف هوادار احمدی نژاد نیز گروه کثیری افراد فاسد وجود دارند. کسانی چون آیت اله محمد یزدی که غارتگری شان اگر از هاشمی وامثالهم بیشتر نباشد کمتر نیست. بنابراین باید برای حذف ایشان توسط آقای خامنه ای به دنبال دلایل دیگر ی بود. دلیل و به عبارتی علت اصلی را از یک سو باید در همان نگاه نظریه نخست -نظریه جوادی آملی- به نظریه ولایت فقیه و از سوی دیگر ادعای همترازی امثال هاشمی دانست.
هاشمی رفسنجانی با توجه به سوابق و شخصیتش حاضر نیست کل اقتدار خود را به آقای خامنه ای واگذار کند. نظریه جوادی آملی نیز حامی وی است اما کسانی چون آیت اله یزدی بر خلاف هاشمی حاضرند در ازای دریافت پاداش، خود را به تمامی در اختیار آقای خامنه ای قرار دهند و بدین علت هاشمی و دیگر مخالفان نظریه مصباح باید از صحنه حاکمیت حذف شوند.
چند شاهد بر مدعا: در وجود نظریه مصباح که در کتابهای وی و هوادارانش نوشته شده شکی وجود ندارد. در اینکه نظریه رقیبی نیز توسط جوادی آملی نگاشته شده نیز شکی نیست. پس در این مقدمات نمی توان تردید کرد اما آیا احتمال اجرایی شدن این نظریه در این انتخابات، صرفا از ذهن یک داستان نویس نشات گرفته و یا اینکه شواهدی بر آن وجود دارد؟
شاهد نخست آنکه، احمدی نژاد با نام بردن از هاشمی و ناطق مشروعیت نظام را به کلی به چالش کشید و این موضوع نمی تواند بدون اجازه آقای خامنه ای باشد. در این جا سوال این است که آقای خامنه ای برای چه هدفی باید چنین مجوزی به احمدی نژاد بدهد؟ تبعات عمل احمدی نژاد برای مشروعیت جمهوری اسلامی آنقدر خطرناک است که صرف یک انتخابات ریاست جمهوری نمی تواند آن را جبران کند. از سوی دیگر مافیای رهبری تلاش خواهد کرد پس از حذف هاشمی و حامیانش با این ادعا که رهبری از ابتدا با این باند فساد مخاف بوده، مشروعیت خود را در اذهان حامیانش دوباره بازسازی کند.
شاهد دیگر ماجرا نحوه برخورد احمدی نژاد با مراجع تقلید است. در بیشتر سالهای پس از انقلاب، دولتها کم و بیش کوشیده اند نظرات مراجع را لحاظ کنند اما دولت احمدی نژاد کمترین بهای لازم را به مراجع تقلید داده است بی آنکه از این شیوه خود بیمی داشته باشد. آیا دلیل عدم نگرانی دولت احمدی نژاد از مراجع تقلید حمایت شدید آقای خامنه ای از احمدی نژاد نیست؟ در نظریه مصباح طبیعتا جای چندانی برای مراجع تقلید نیست چرا که آنها رقیب ولایت خواهند بود. در این راستا به یاد بیاوریم حملات نوری زاد- فیلمساز حامی احمدی نژاد- به آیت اله مکارم شیرازی که بدون ترس از عواقب کار خود به راحتی یکی از پرنفوذترین مراجع تقلید را مورد حملات پیاپی قرار داد. نوری زاد هیچ گاه به خاطر حمله به مکارم شیرازی محاکمه نشد چرا که او مورد تایید رهبر و در راستای پروژه یادشده مامور حمله به مکارم پرنفوذ بود. در همین راستا به یاد بیاوریم سخنان مکارم شیرازی پس از دیدار با آیت اله صافی که در برابر نوری زاد اعلام کرد که آروزی نابود کردن مرجعیت را به گور می برید. یادمانن نرود مکارم شیرازی این پاسخ را به اصلاح طلبان یا لائیکها نداد بلکه به نوری زاد حامی احمدی نژاد و ولایت فقیه داد.
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خلاصه مطلب آنکه شواهد نشان می دهند پیروزی احمدی نژاد در انتخاب دهم، تنها یک پیروزی انتخاباتی نباشد بلکه هدف اصلی و استراتژیک آن، نابودی جمهوریت نیم بند جهوری اسلامی و ایجاد حکومت عدل اسلامی – فاشیسم اسلامی – است. آگاه سازی مردم از این پروژه قطعا یکی از راه های از بین بردن این پروژه خطرناک است. شاید ادعای این نوشتار با وجود همه شواهد نادرست باشد اما این پروژه آن قدر برای کیان این کشور خطرناک است که احتمال آن نیز باید مورد بررسی دقیق و افشاگری گسترده قرار گیرد.
June 22nd, 2009 at 10:17 pm
Thank you for exposing the BBC, Prison Planet.
The CIA/MKO/Zionists are really enjoying the chaos in Iran, aren’t they?
June 23rd, 2009 at 6:57 pm
Really ???
Do you really want us to buy this ??? This is definitly not the same photo !!!
Is it the best you got ???
June 24th, 2009 at 11:14 pm
First for all those BLIND WESTERN media fans here is the truth to get your facts right:
- This is not about who won elections its about was it an opportunity for WEST and CIA to inject their propaganda
- Ahmadinejad is a conservative group head
- Mousavi is a less conservative group head , and NOT a SECULAR or LIBERAL something group head (he himself and his family actively participated in 79 revolution) and here lies the trick:
Since WESTERN gov dont find anyone suitable PERSON to fit their design of destabilizing IRAN, like they did in IRAQ and PAKISTAN since IRAN is pretty much one sect and one nation with one ideology and complete unity they started misleading the TRUE western viewership into believing that Mousavi is actually a LIBERAL or SECULAR or some WESTERN-suited politicians. This way they first tried to pose him as a Freedom fighter or liberator or something.
This was a political fight between a conservative and a less conservative person, thats it.
While thousand of innocents die more deadly and tragic death due to USA and UK bombings in IRAQ,AFGHANISTAN and drone attacks in PAKISTAN the WESTERN media is least interested in any such news and nor willing to show any such footage even if it mistakenly mentions them.
Here they are running 24×7 footage of these protest, repeating them again and again and doing their own commentary in order to brainwash the WESTERN audience to put IRAN as a DEMON and the protesters as some holy angels. I have carefully observed their words and the way they are almost GUIDING these protesters as to what to do next, where to gather, how to re-group etc. And they are even educating them on ways and means to protest e.g they are telling that the protesters should protest on 3rd 7th and 40th day of the first death on 18th. Similarly they are in search of every tiny bit of NEWs that can go against IRAN as a state. e.g they keep repeating that 4 IRANIAN players showed sympathy with protesters. Back on May 12 2007 , 50 innocents were brutally murdered in broad day light in KARACHI , PAKSITAN by the MQM , an ally party of President MUSHARRAF who is a WESTERN puppet but the WESTERN media (except for the first 3 days and only for few minutes in main news) was least bothered to follow it up because it was not a good opportunity to cash their WESTERN interest.
There are even reports of WESTERN media showing pro-Ahmadinejad rallies as pro-Mousavi rallies and following link is one such proof:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/bb.....ganda.html
Who konws may be NEDA was killed by one of the anti-gov rioter’s gun. But we can see how well they manipulate the story.
Welcome to the world of MASS MEDIA DECEPTION !!
June 25th, 2009 at 12:41 am
A very close friend of my very close friend is in Tehran now – & has said that the UK news media is blowing the protests & demonstrations COMPLETELY out of proportion.
The close friend of my friend is a UK resident, To me the word provided by this person is more accurate & shows up the Shit that ALL – every single news agency – feeds us.
Sorry chaps but the light of truth is now on you & the lies you are creating & perpetuating.
So everyone turn off their tv at news time & actually start living & making up your own mind about the world & how you interact with it & each being of that world!
If we all choose to ignore the “Story” they try to put over to us – they will have no power & our military won’t be forced into an unjust – highly illegal – childish war.
If we all acted & treated each other with the majesty & honour that we are all capable of as a species, then all of the differences we have would dissolve & we would view this world/surrounding in a new & wonderful way
June 29th, 2009 at 11:00 pm
some american agents involves in recent situation,,,,,miir miossovie is also
June 29th, 2009 at 11:02 pm
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