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		<title>By: truthmonster</title>
		<link>http://www.prisonplanet.com/beyond-right-wing-and-left-wing.html/comment-page-1#comment-12284</link>
		<dc:creator>truthmonster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 14:00:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HEY VAL YOU COMMIE PIG.

WE DONT LIKE YOU
WE DONT WANT YOU
YOU ARE NOT WELCOME IN OUR COUNTRY.

BETTER DEAD THEN RED.

ANYONE WHO ASPOUSES COMMUNISM IS A FAILURE AND CANT GET BY ON HIS OWN MERRIT.



LOOSER.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HEY VAL YOU COMMIE PIG.</p>
<p>WE DONT LIKE YOU<br />
WE DONT WANT YOU<br />
YOU ARE NOT WELCOME IN OUR COUNTRY.</p>
<p>BETTER DEAD THEN RED.</p>
<p>ANYONE WHO ASPOUSES COMMUNISM IS A FAILURE AND CANT GET BY ON HIS OWN MERRIT.</p>
<p>LOOSER.</p>
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		<title>By: vladimir</title>
		<link>http://www.prisonplanet.com/beyond-right-wing-and-left-wing.html/comment-page-1#comment-12193</link>
		<dc:creator>vladimir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 11:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Americans can&#039;t pin down their terms because their thinking has always been based on impressionism and pragmatism (the American version of empiricism). The word &quot;liberal&quot; when applied to economics means &quot;lassez-faire&quot;; when applied to social institutions it means contrarily &quot;utilitarian and egalitarian&quot; when coming out of the mouth of a social liberal and &quot;controlled and collectivist&quot; when coming out of the mouth of a social conservative. Today, in Europe the word &quot;neoliberal&quot; means what &quot;neoconservative&quot; does in America. The neoconservatives started out as economic liberals, not social liberals; and their ideas are still anything but utilitarian and egalitarian. 

The terms Left and Right originally referred to the seating in the États Générals (Constituent Assembly) of the First French Republic. The social liberals (Jacobins) on the left and the social conservatives (Girondistes) on the right. For well over a century the terms Left and Right were applied in Europe to politics and to philosophy with perfect clarity. Hegel was  politically and socially conservative, so those who followed him loyally were considered Right Hegelians, the most notable example being Martin Heidegger, who signed his correspondence with &quot;Heil Hitler!&quot;. Those who took his logical method but turned his political and social theory on its head were considered Left Hegelians, notable examples being Ludwig Feuerbach (love as the binding force in the universe) and Karl Marx (social contradictions resolve themselves in revolution leading eventually to the emancipation of mankind). 

In only one other nation is there today more confusion regarding the terminology Left and Right, and that&#039;s in Russia. There, where the cult of the &quot;brilliant leader&quot; Joseph Stalin has hopelessly muddled all clear ideas in politics and philosophy, Marxists are regarded as on the Right and their opponents as on the Left. People should study the Great French Revolution, from which the terms originate, or give up using them altogether.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Americans can&#8217;t pin down their terms because their thinking has always been based on impressionism and pragmatism (the American version of empiricism). The word &#8220;liberal&#8221; when applied to economics means &#8220;lassez-faire&#8221;; when applied to social institutions it means contrarily &#8220;utilitarian and egalitarian&#8221; when coming out of the mouth of a social liberal and &#8220;controlled and collectivist&#8221; when coming out of the mouth of a social conservative. Today, in Europe the word &#8220;neoliberal&#8221; means what &#8220;neoconservative&#8221; does in America. The neoconservatives started out as economic liberals, not social liberals; and their ideas are still anything but utilitarian and egalitarian. </p>
<p>The terms Left and Right originally referred to the seating in the États Générals (Constituent Assembly) of the First French Republic. The social liberals (Jacobins) on the left and the social conservatives (Girondistes) on the right. For well over a century the terms Left and Right were applied in Europe to politics and to philosophy with perfect clarity. Hegel was  politically and socially conservative, so those who followed him loyally were considered Right Hegelians, the most notable example being Martin Heidegger, who signed his correspondence with &#8220;Heil Hitler!&#8221;. Those who took his logical method but turned his political and social theory on its head were considered Left Hegelians, notable examples being Ludwig Feuerbach (love as the binding force in the universe) and Karl Marx (social contradictions resolve themselves in revolution leading eventually to the emancipation of mankind). </p>
<p>In only one other nation is there today more confusion regarding the terminology Left and Right, and that&#8217;s in Russia. There, where the cult of the &#8220;brilliant leader&#8221; Joseph Stalin has hopelessly muddled all clear ideas in politics and philosophy, Marxists are regarded as on the Right and their opponents as on the Left. People should study the Great French Revolution, from which the terms originate, or give up using them altogether.</p>
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		<title>By: val cardwell</title>
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		<dc:creator>val cardwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 01:20:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a life-long Communist, Cuba Venezuela, Bolivia,etc are my ideal, however Regarding fighting the Bilderbergers, I am quite willing to work with non-Communists against these fascist freaks. They are the bigger picture, and we&#039;d better see it, before it&#039;s too late! The only people I cant/won&#039;t work with are racists and military apoligists. Americans are very confused about socialism, probably due to the brain-washing that goes way back to the Macarthyite Witch-Hunts of the 50s and the &quot;Red Scare&quot; rubbish when innocent people had their lives ruined for being Communists. &quot;home of the brave/land of the free,&quot; my foot!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a life-long Communist, Cuba Venezuela, Bolivia,etc are my ideal, however Regarding fighting the Bilderbergers, I am quite willing to work with non-Communists against these fascist freaks. They are the bigger picture, and we&#8217;d better see it, before it&#8217;s too late! The only people I cant/won&#8217;t work with are racists and military apoligists. Americans are very confused about socialism, probably due to the brain-washing that goes way back to the Macarthyite Witch-Hunts of the 50s and the &#8220;Red Scare&#8221; rubbish when innocent people had their lives ruined for being Communists. &#8220;home of the brave/land of the free,&#8221; my foot!</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://www.prisonplanet.com/beyond-right-wing-and-left-wing.html/comment-page-1#comment-11943</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 21:33:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The best way to accomplish nothing is to divide our representatives into two sides. One conservative right and the other liberal left. Throw some gas on the fire by sterotyping them, liberals love taxes and republicans care only for corporations. Then let the fighting begin and watch as nothing gets done. The solution? Take on one topic or bill at a time. Use common sense. Example: The Mexican border, put up a triple layer fence from Brownsville,TX. to San Diego. Period. Allow only a set amount of skilled people in per year.               Gas prices: Solution: Stop speculators unlimited buying if they have no assets to back it up. This would cut the price of gas in half. Also on gas prices. Common sense item number 2: Follow  the money. Why hasn&#039;t some congressional commity hunt down and analyse where every cent goes when we pay $4.25 per gallon? WHO GETS THE MONEY? Probably the wall street bankers and the fed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The best way to accomplish nothing is to divide our representatives into two sides. One conservative right and the other liberal left. Throw some gas on the fire by sterotyping them, liberals love taxes and republicans care only for corporations. Then let the fighting begin and watch as nothing gets done. The solution? Take on one topic or bill at a time. Use common sense. Example: The Mexican border, put up a triple layer fence from Brownsville,TX. to San Diego. Period. Allow only a set amount of skilled people in per year.               Gas prices: Solution: Stop speculators unlimited buying if they have no assets to back it up. This would cut the price of gas in half. Also on gas prices. Common sense item number 2: Follow  the money. Why hasn&#8217;t some congressional commity hunt down and analyse where every cent goes when we pay $4.25 per gallon? WHO GETS THE MONEY? Probably the wall street bankers and the fed.</p>
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		<title>By: Barry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 19:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t forget, people are interpreting this as religious vs. non-religious (UU churches have a large number of atheists and agnostics) as well and exploiting that unnecessary wedge.

see:

http://vyoma108.blogspot.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t forget, people are interpreting this as religious vs. non-religious (UU churches have a large number of atheists and agnostics) as well and exploiting that unnecessary wedge.</p>
<p>see:</p>
<p><a href="http://vyoma108.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://vyoma108.blogspot.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: truthmonster</title>
		<link>http://www.prisonplanet.com/beyond-right-wing-and-left-wing.html/comment-page-1#comment-11837</link>
		<dc:creator>truthmonster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 18:06:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WE NEED A CONSTITUTIONAL OPPOSITION ORG.WHATS GONNA HAPPEN AFTER THE NWO CONFLICT ?NOTHING.WE HAVE NO PLAN OR PEOPLE TO STEP INTO POWER AFTERWARDS.WE NEED A CONSTITUTIONAL OPPOSITION FORCE TO COMBAT AND OFFER A REAL CHOICE AGAINST  LEFT / RIGHT SOCIALISM</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WE NEED A CONSTITUTIONAL OPPOSITION ORG.WHATS GONNA HAPPEN AFTER THE NWO CONFLICT ?NOTHING.WE HAVE NO PLAN OR PEOPLE TO STEP INTO POWER AFTERWARDS.WE NEED A CONSTITUTIONAL OPPOSITION FORCE TO COMBAT AND OFFER A REAL CHOICE AGAINST  LEFT / RIGHT SOCIALISM</p>
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		<title>By: Phishybongwaters</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phishybongwaters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 17:09:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well you are all obviously commie pinkos....
&gt; read sarcasm &lt;

There is no left and right, it&#039;s a manufactured paradigm to keep us passive.

When explaining the nature of the Matrix to Neo, the Architect said that to get people into the program, to enslave them fully, they had to provide the illusion of choice where there is none.

That&#039;s EXACTLY where we are at.  For christ sake, the dems and repubs agree with each other more than they disagree.  The dems, when they won back the house, did NOTHING to overturn the insanity the Bush regime created, they rubber stamped it.

Bush and Kerry are cousins!  It&#039;s all a shame to keep everyone fighting against themselves, instead of fighting the real fight.

but it doesn&#039;t matter, to be pro peace is to be anti-american, that&#039;s the official policy, right down to banning the peace sign during the Iraq invasion, then, when people still showed it, they changed it to &#039;V for victory&#039;.

A country that founded itself on the basis of peaceful existence, a country that fought in 2 world wars to provide and secure PEACE, is now saying to be pro peace is anti-american.  That says it all. 

We need to dismantle this fake left right scam, we need to remove ALL of the talking heads from the media, and we desperately need to get the youth involved as they are the only ones that can save us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well you are all obviously commie pinkos&#8230;.<br />
&gt; read sarcasm &lt;</p>
<p>There is no left and right, it&#8217;s a manufactured paradigm to keep us passive.</p>
<p>When explaining the nature of the Matrix to Neo, the Architect said that to get people into the program, to enslave them fully, they had to provide the illusion of choice where there is none.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s EXACTLY where we are at.  For christ sake, the dems and repubs agree with each other more than they disagree.  The dems, when they won back the house, did NOTHING to overturn the insanity the Bush regime created, they rubber stamped it.</p>
<p>Bush and Kerry are cousins!  It&#8217;s all a shame to keep everyone fighting against themselves, instead of fighting the real fight.</p>
<p>but it doesn&#8217;t matter, to be pro peace is to be anti-american, that&#8217;s the official policy, right down to banning the peace sign during the Iraq invasion, then, when people still showed it, they changed it to &#8216;V for victory&#8217;.</p>
<p>A country that founded itself on the basis of peaceful existence, a country that fought in 2 world wars to provide and secure PEACE, is now saying to be pro peace is anti-american.  That says it all. </p>
<p>We need to dismantle this fake left right scam, we need to remove ALL of the talking heads from the media, and we desperately need to get the youth involved as they are the only ones that can save us.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 16:29:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lets call them &quot;Right Nut&quot; &amp; &quot;Left Nut&quot;</description>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 16:17:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amen to that!</description>
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		<title>By: Anne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 15:18:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s the Hegelian philosophy played out to make us get along with the NWO without realizing it until it&#039;s too late. 

This is the core of the problem - to weed out the hudges and grudges from the rest of us - so we can fight our real enemies and stop fighting each other.

Hudge and Grudge are caracters described by the great G.K. Chesterton a hundred year ago:
http://chesterton.org/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s the Hegelian philosophy played out to make us get along with the NWO without realizing it until it&#8217;s too late. </p>
<p>This is the core of the problem &#8211; to weed out the hudges and grudges from the rest of us &#8211; so we can fight our real enemies and stop fighting each other.</p>
<p>Hudge and Grudge are caracters described by the great G.K. Chesterton a hundred year ago:<br />
<a href="http://chesterton.org/" rel="nofollow">http://chesterton.org/</a></p>
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