An independent public inquiry should be held into how suicide terrorists were able to carry out the July 7 bombings, Scotland Yard’s former head of counter-terrorism says.
Andy Hayman, who was Assistant Commissioner for Special Operations at the time of the bombings in 2005, is the first figure from the security establishment to break ranks and call for an open inquiry.
Almost four years after Mohammad Sidique Khan and his Leeds-based cell carried out the bombings, Mr Hayman says that he is “uncomfortable” with the official position that an inquiry would divert resources from the fight against terrorism. In his book, The Terrorist Hunters, extracts from which are published in The Times today, Mr Hayman says: “Incidents of less gravity have attracted the status of a public inquiry — train crashes, a death in custody, and even other terrorist attacks. How can there not be a full, independent public inquiry into the deaths of 52 commuters on London’s transport system?
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“There has been no overview, no pulling together of each strand of review, no one can be sure if key issues have been missed.”
Survivors of the July 7 bombings and families of the victims are taking High Court action over the refusal to grant them an independent inquiry.
June 20th, 2009 at 5:17 am
No inquiry, just ask Alex Jones to explain it to you.
reconmarine Reply:
June 20th, 2009 at 9:03 am
and if you read his book, or even watch his previous interviews, he in now way whatsoever thinks 7/7 was carried out by anyone but the bombers and maybe a support structure of theirs. He does not think non terrorists were involved.
Chris Diminie Reply:
June 20th, 2009 at 11:11 am
What are you talking about? The police were doing a terror drill involving the bus and subway car that blew up that day. Not to mention the bus (that exploded) was the only bus in the city that was diverted to another location by police before it blew up.
And the security cameras in the London Underground were disabled that day too, so someone involved would have to have access to those as well.
I thought that information was in Terrorstorm, but I haven’t seen it in a while.
I may also have misunderstood your comment, were you saying that Alex thinks Al-Qaeda alone attacked London on 7/7, without inside help?
I would like to read more on this, can you post a link?
reconmarine Reply:
June 20th, 2009 at 12:02 pm
Chris- If all you do is watch terror storm or listen to conspiracy theorists, then that is all your going to know about the subject. Try diversifying your sources.
Do you really think Alex Jones is going to tell you about things that debunk his crazy claims?
Also, try to wrap your mind around the implications of your theories. Do you realize how many people would need to be involved, how previous things have not been able to be kept secret,etc????
You are only getting parts of the story and without the entire picture, of course things look at of place..
Look at how the same people completely distort the truth of really happened on 9/11. Every single 9/11 theory has been debunked, yet, they keep repeating them, over and over again.
MaryP Reply:
June 20th, 2009 at 12:48 pm
Recon: What 9-11 theories have been “debunked”? The “Official Story”..yes, that has been proven false and misleading and does not present the true FACTS! Explain Bldg seven please, and thermite, thermate, steel melting fire, and on and on and on…..your right, if that was your implications, 9-11 offical story has been DEBUNKED!
Scott Reply:
June 20th, 2009 at 2:20 pm
Dont forget about NORAD letting them get anywhere near the twin towers in the first place. I can even get out the country with a creased passport, makes hijacking and flying a jumbo jet into a major capital city without F18s intercepting look near impossible – which it is.
craig Reply:
June 20th, 2009 at 5:02 pm
yep was mentioned in terrorstorm but what i witnessed on that day and the day after 7/7 was the infamous interview on the bbc news that was conducted by a certain Peter Powers of Visor Consultancy who was running drills at exactly the same times, locations AND the excact senarios that the “excercise” was run for. also you are correct that the underground cameras were disabled but the police claimed that a power surge took the system down. if you search the bbc’s online archives you will be able to find the original articles explaining this. additionally some strange reports came out that when investigators came to examine the trains that were targeted it was discovered that the metal underneath the blast zone were bent upwards from underneath the train suggesting that the explosives were planted on the underside of the targeted trains.
7/7 in the uk has been almost forgotten about and should be pursued as vigorously as the 9/11 incident. oh and before i forget to mention it do a youtube search for wearechangeuk interviews peter powers…makes for some interesting viewing.
go go gadget p3nix Reply:
June 20th, 2009 at 5:53 pm
Good post chris. Don’t worry about the resident disinfo-bot. Notice how he doesn’t address a single one of the facts you present. He is just a trained monkey who vomits out his list of tired-ass bromides and talking points when he’s not straight flame-baiting. I would suggest simply ignoring the fooking troll, as it’s possible his pay is contingent on how many posters he can get to engage with him.
craig Reply:
June 20th, 2009 at 5:12 pm
oh and btw recon it wasnt the 9/11 truth movement that coined the term “conspiracy theory” it actually was your OWN goverment.
Truth before Servitude Reply:
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:42 pm
I can see why you have that opinion. If you are indeed a Marine, it would suck to have to face up to what it is you really serve. So, naturally you’re going to seek peace in the matter by focusing on the “debunkers”. All of whom never really debunked anything.
Charlie Reply:
June 30th, 2009 at 2:23 pm
What great TV viewing that’s great for the rating lol . The ripple effect what a load of bollocks I was in the military and was in northern Ireland . Let me take one aspect of the bomb under the tube theory as reported by some survivors . I was 20 metres next to bomb in Northern Ireland when it went off. How the fuck did I know where it went off. It all happens in milliseconds. I am sorry to say I am not racist but met a Muslim interpreter in Bosnia during the conflict what a nice guy but have to say there is bad in all religions and that has been happening for century’s. As for MI5 planning it all , those extremist out there would love you to think that. You people out there open your eyes there is no conspiracy by the government just mad extremist with ideas of how to get to paradise when all they will find is a ticket to hell at the expense of innocent people.
June 20th, 2009 at 5:51 am
I liked this article. In it, they note how there are never enough resources to investigate the official story, but plenty to stop people from smoking weed. Not that they are doing any better at stopping people from having their weed than they are at getting people to buy their bullshit on 7/7.
martin Reply:
June 20th, 2009 at 7:57 am
in the UK theyre paying the employees of the emergency ambulance service to attend a GAY RIGHTs parade in brighton, not enough people will be attending, so they get paid 40 pounds to attend, 70 bucks, the storys in the daily mail newspaper
reconmarine Reply:
June 20th, 2009 at 9:05 am
not good but also not applicable.
2 different agencies.
Last year Oregons school budget fell short by 8 million dollars.
They spent tent times that on our roads…..That doesn’t mean they could have taken road money and spent it on the schools. (They should be able to) but that over simplistic thinking isn’t realistic at all…………….
But it sure deos help you guys with your conspiracy theories……
reconmarine Reply:
June 20th, 2009 at 9:06 am
not good but also not applicable.
2 different agencies.
Last year Oregons school budget fell short by 8 million dollars.
They spent tent times that on our roads…..That doesn’t mean they could have taken road money and spent it on the schools. (They should be able to) but that over simplistic thinking isn’t realistic at all…………….
But it sure deos help you guys with your conspiracy theories……
craig Reply:
June 20th, 2009 at 5:05 pm
not applicable? and how do you come to that conclusion?
Daklo Reply:
June 21st, 2009 at 5:07 am
reconmarine; you are sure that conspiracy theories are just theories, but your postings do not contain complex arguments (as opposed to simplistic thinking), and are in essence veiled ad hominen attacks using the “conspiracy theory” label. Governments, like any large organisation, contain many criminals that frequently work together for their own enrichment. The question is the scale that such conspiracies can achieve, and when they grow to such an extent they actually become socially acceptable and in the open. I see this as the point Alex Jones is actually trying to wake you up to; global players are pushing to make global unelected government acceptable. So much power in the hands of so few is only going to create tyranny, and your accusations of “conspiracy theories” misses this simple truth.
expatbrit Reply:
June 22nd, 2009 at 3:13 am
Reconwanker – you are an evil shit
June 20th, 2009 at 6:53 am
I’ve got another 50 odd Ripple Effect going out. The people ARE being told, inquiry or no inquiry. It’s only a matter of time before the whole house of cards comes crashing down.
June 20th, 2009 at 8:24 am
I think Terrorstorm is the best film on 7/7…spread this one out.
Ripple Effect not bad, but he sounds a bit strange the guy who made it and narrates.
June 20th, 2009 at 9:32 am
I do Terrorstorm too. I just get bored knocking out the same DVD’s, so do a whole range of them. I wish someone came out with a comprehensive expose of how mind programming is used against the people.
June 20th, 2009 at 11:05 am
a comprehensive expose of how mind programming is used against the people
got to this link for it
http://www.mindcontrolforums.c.....lon_2.html
GWScam Reply:
June 20th, 2009 at 10:23 pm
A DVD about mind-programming. There’s sites and info galore. But no really useable DVD’s that I know of.
June 20th, 2009 at 11:15 am
Good News!!
June 20th, 2009 at 11:20 am
S.O.S. – stands for Same Old Sh…t
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June 21st, 2009 at 6:06 pm
SNAFU
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June 20th, 2009 at 4:22 pm
Im glad someone has mentioned 7/7 again. Yes there should be a full public inquiry, not a private one. Too many elements not making sense in this and why no inquiry so far?
Charlie Reply:
June 30th, 2009 at 2:30 pm
get real the ripple effect is made by some daft bastard from sheffield uk who has just been arrested for pervertin the course of justice he is not muslim sound muslim but aint.
June 20th, 2009 at 5:08 pm
i was watching the news when this came out and sorry to say but it wont be a public enquiry and it aint gonna happen before the next general election.
June 20th, 2009 at 6:08 pm
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June 20th, 2009 at 7:27 pm
7/7/7 Hmmmmm! 9/9/9 maybe?
June 20th, 2009 at 8:26 pm
“We the people” doesn’t include us.
June 20th, 2009 at 8:30 pm
Alex is wrong he says the pentacon is speculation clik here watch the video and disagree with alex you will get to the head of the line and tell him to watch this http://www.thepentacon.com/eyeofthestorm.htm if this man isn’t an operative of F B I why did he lie about where his car was in front of the pentagon on 9-11??
June 20th, 2009 at 9:45 pm
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June 20th, 2009 at 10:12 pm
Great information, I will be linking back to you and going to look around at your other posts.
June 21st, 2009 at 5:23 am
If YOU are willing to make the ultimate 7/7 Truth doc I am willing put put up cash to help get a copy into as many London homes as posssible. The doc so far are good but no doc contains ALL known info.
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June 21st, 2009 at 6:20 am
i’m right here with everybody. low paying job, bills mounting up, wife and kid. But i gotta tell you. everything you read, everything you hear, everything both sides say, is all designed to draw your attention away from what really matters. If you worry about what Fox news says, and worry about what Alex Jones says, you’ve missed the picture. though Alex may be right about what is going on, i think even he loses sight of what really matters. We aren’t just coming closer to the end of cash, rights and everything that makes America great. we’re coming closer to the end of the world. Closer to the coming of the Lord. Spread His word. not the meaningless words of man.
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June 21st, 2009 at 11:54 am
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June 21st, 2009 at 9:51 am
reconmarine….. i shouldent but i will reply if only to avert others from listening to your troll bullshit personally i would much rather bash the liveing fuck out of you but this will have to do you cock .the only bus that blew up was the one the police diverted to tavistock square mmmm odd out of all the buses only that one ??? they was conducting a terror drill to that day one involeving a undergroud bombing of a train and one involeving a bus you are to dumb to be real so you are a agent and a scumbag and any of you other trolls out there we the people will probally looses this fight i have no doubt but im gonna take some of you motherfuckers with me if we all do that we will prevail and thats all we have to do give up are safe lives go for the hard times against thease people now and we may have a chance good luck all freedom rules
June 21st, 2009 at 11:49 am
I think the New World Order will officially declare a One World Order on 13/13/13
June 21st, 2009 at 11:52 am
And I will tell you this:
All of their Mystic Calculations and use of mystic numbers are wrong since they are playing with the Calendar based on Jesus Christ’s birth, a thing they don’t believe in in the first place. So their numbers, although, they respect the Masonic BS Mystique, are wrong to start with!
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