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		<title>By: The Audacity of Hype &#171; Responsibility-Freedom Demands It</title>
		<link>http://www.prisonplanet.com/cap-and-trade-and-the-illusion-of-the-new-green-economy.html/comment-page-2#comment-434386</link>
		<dc:creator>The Audacity of Hype &#171; Responsibility-Freedom Demands It</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 17:20:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] off Billions of Dollars in administrative program costs.  You would do well to read the article at prison planet about what the current offering from Mr. Obama and team will do.  It is not a pretty picture and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] off Billions of Dollars in administrative program costs.  You would do well to read the article at prison planet about what the current offering from Mr. Obama and team will do.  It is not a pretty picture and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Domul Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Domul Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 13:04:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anyone have anything of substance to say on this website, or simply conspiracy theories and copy and pasted wikipedia articles? The right truly are a dying breed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone have anything of substance to say on this website, or simply conspiracy theories and copy and pasted wikipedia articles? The right truly are a dying breed.</p>
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		<title>By: metnav</title>
		<link>http://www.prisonplanet.com/cap-and-trade-and-the-illusion-of-the-new-green-economy.html/comment-page-2#comment-421092</link>
		<dc:creator>metnav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 00:29:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even ten years ago, if I had suggested that the majority party’s proposed bill would be withheld from the minority party two hours from the vote — and then one copy was grudgingly provided, to be shared by all 435 Representatives , you would have looked at me like I was a crazy person…….

Well that’s exactly what happened a week ago  Friday when Congress voted on and passed the infamous HR 2454 Cap and Trade/Carbon Emissions Bill. Final vote: 219 Yea, 212 Nay. A little after 3 am on that very same day a 300 page amendment was added to the original 900+ pages. This is the longest suicide note in history and will further hasten our downward economic spiral. The Senate looks to debate it this Fall where it will likely get nowhere. Friday’s vote may have been a gift to the POTUS for the upcoming UN meeting knowing there’s little chance of it getting thru the Senate. Before Friday’s vote I made my feelings known to our Democratic Congressman. I see he voted No but I’ve no idea what his real motivation was. Some that voted Yes received calls 20:1 urging a No vote and they still voted Yes.

This is about more than just higher electricity rates. It’s a massive redistribution of wealth, further limits our freedoms all under the guise of reducing an essential trace greenhouse gas, and does next to nil for energy independence. This Manmade Global Warming/Climate Change House Of Cards is tumbling down. Every week more and more new contrary evidence is seeing the light of day. The Mainstream Media won’t report it, but this vital information is getting out to those that want honest debate on this important issue.

Looking past the Senate this Fall we have the December Copenhagen UN meeting on a new Global Warming Treaty. Remember the Kyoto Treaty? Well you ain’t seen nothing yet. I shudder to think what the U.S. delegation would love to commit us to for years or decades forward. Lastly there’s the EPA waiting in the wings to regulate all things CO2. Recently a leaked string of internal EPA e-mails detailed suppression of evidence that undermines the CO2 argument. Many derided the career EPA employee as not being a climatologist. Well Mr. Carlin has a physics degree. Al Gore is no climatologist or scientist but he’s allowed to testify before Congress on this issue. Madness!

Remember Friday’s vote, because if this horror show is implemented on the American public it will blow up in our face as it has in every country this has been tried. At what cost in dollars and individual freedoms? Mark your calendar in RED, because that is the path we are heading toward. Contact your Senators and ask them if they’re prepared to defend a Yes vote for this misguided Bill. Let them know a NO Vote will ensure your support next election cycle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even ten years ago, if I had suggested that the majority party’s proposed bill would be withheld from the minority party two hours from the vote — and then one copy was grudgingly provided, to be shared by all 435 Representatives , you would have looked at me like I was a crazy person…….</p>
<p>Well that’s exactly what happened a week ago  Friday when Congress voted on and passed the infamous HR 2454 Cap and Trade/Carbon Emissions Bill. Final vote: 219 Yea, 212 Nay. A little after 3 am on that very same day a 300 page amendment was added to the original 900+ pages. This is the longest suicide note in history and will further hasten our downward economic spiral. The Senate looks to debate it this Fall where it will likely get nowhere. Friday’s vote may have been a gift to the POTUS for the upcoming UN meeting knowing there’s little chance of it getting thru the Senate. Before Friday’s vote I made my feelings known to our Democratic Congressman. I see he voted No but I’ve no idea what his real motivation was. Some that voted Yes received calls 20:1 urging a No vote and they still voted Yes.</p>
<p>This is about more than just higher electricity rates. It’s a massive redistribution of wealth, further limits our freedoms all under the guise of reducing an essential trace greenhouse gas, and does next to nil for energy independence. This Manmade Global Warming/Climate Change House Of Cards is tumbling down. Every week more and more new contrary evidence is seeing the light of day. The Mainstream Media won’t report it, but this vital information is getting out to those that want honest debate on this important issue.</p>
<p>Looking past the Senate this Fall we have the December Copenhagen UN meeting on a new Global Warming Treaty. Remember the Kyoto Treaty? Well you ain’t seen nothing yet. I shudder to think what the U.S. delegation would love to commit us to for years or decades forward. Lastly there’s the EPA waiting in the wings to regulate all things CO2. Recently a leaked string of internal EPA e-mails detailed suppression of evidence that undermines the CO2 argument. Many derided the career EPA employee as not being a climatologist. Well Mr. Carlin has a physics degree. Al Gore is no climatologist or scientist but he’s allowed to testify before Congress on this issue. Madness!</p>
<p>Remember Friday’s vote, because if this horror show is implemented on the American public it will blow up in our face as it has in every country this has been tried. At what cost in dollars and individual freedoms? Mark your calendar in RED, because that is the path we are heading toward. Contact your Senators and ask them if they’re prepared to defend a Yes vote for this misguided Bill. Let them know a NO Vote will ensure your support next election cycle.</p>
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		<title>By: Shear'Ree</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shear'Ree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 16:06:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>www.1dayforamerica.org</description>
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		<title>By: kebcreation</title>
		<link>http://www.prisonplanet.com/cap-and-trade-and-the-illusion-of-the-new-green-economy.html/comment-page-2#comment-419112</link>
		<dc:creator>kebcreation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 04:20:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ehhum the cap and trade is for us. They will not downsize if anything they will upgrade. If this president came from a poor background he has a short memory. His allegiance is to the world government and the carbon thing comes straight from their greedy minds. Too bad they and he so far are getting away with it all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ehhum the cap and trade is for us. They will not downsize if anything they will upgrade. If this president came from a poor background he has a short memory. His allegiance is to the world government and the carbon thing comes straight from their greedy minds. Too bad they and he so far are getting away with it all.</p>
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		<title>By: URCARBONUSELESSEATERS</title>
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		<dc:creator>URCARBONUSELESSEATERS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 04:15:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrdDoSM9r2M</description>
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		<title>By: URCARBONUSELESSEATERS</title>
		<link>http://www.prisonplanet.com/cap-and-trade-and-the-illusion-of-the-new-green-economy.html/comment-page-2#comment-419103</link>
		<dc:creator>URCARBONUSELESSEATERS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 04:07:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carbon (pronounced /ˈkɑrbən/) is the chemical element with symbol C and atomic number 6. As a member of group 14 on the periodic table, it is nonmetallic and tetravalent—making four electrons available to form covalent chemical bonds. There are three naturally occurring isotopes, with 12C and 13C being stable, while 14C is radioactive, decaying with a half-life of about 5730 years.[7] Carbon is one of the few elements known since antiquity.[8][9] The name &quot;carbon&quot; comes from Latin language carbo, coal, and, in some Romance and Slavic languages, the word carbon can refer both to the element and to coal.

There are several allotropes of carbon of which the best known are graphite, diamond, and amorphous carbon.[10] The physical properties of carbon vary widely with the allotropic form. For example, diamond is highly transparent, while graphite is opaque and black. Diamond is among the hardest materials known, while graphite is soft enough to form a streak on paper (hence its name, from the Greek word &quot;to write&quot;). Diamond has a very low electrical conductivity, while graphite is a very good conductor. Under normal conditions, diamond has the highest thermal conductivity of all known materials. All the allotropic forms are solids under normal conditions but graphite is the most thermodynamically stable.

All forms of carbon are highly stable, requiring high temperature to react even with oxygen. The most common oxidation state of carbon in inorganic compounds is +4, while +2 is found in carbon monoxide and other transition metal carbonyl complexes. The largest sources of inorganic carbon are limestones, dolomites and carbon dioxide, but significant quantities occur in organic deposits of coal, peat, oil and methane clathrates. Carbon forms more compounds than any other element, with almost ten million pure organic compounds described to date, which in turn are a tiny fraction of such compounds that are theoretically possible under standard conditions.[11]

Carbon is the fourth most abundant element in the universe by mass after hydrogen, helium, and oxygen. It is present in all known lifeforms, and in the human body carbon is the second most abundant element by mass (about 18.5%) after oxygen.[12] This abundance, together with the unique diversity of organic compounds and their unusual polymer-forming ability at the temperatures commonly encountered on Earth, make this element the chemical basis of all known life.
Carbon compounds form the basis of all known so far life on Earth, and the carbon-nitrogen cycle provides some of the energy produced by the Sun and other stars. Although it forms an extraordinary variety of compounds, most forms of carbon are comparatively unreactive under normal conditions
Carbon is the fourth most abundant chemical element in the universe by mass after hydrogen, helium, and oxygen. Carbon is abundant in the Sun, stars, comets, and in the atmospheres of most planets. Some meteorites contain microscopic diamonds that were formed when the solar system was still a protoplanetary disk. Microscopic diamonds may also be formed by the intense pressure and high temperature at the sites of meteorite impacts.[29]

 
&quot;Present day&quot; (1990s) sea surface dissolved inorganic carbon concentration (from the GLODAP climatology)In combination with oxygen in carbon dioxide, carbon is found in the Earth&#039;s atmosphere (in quantities of approximately 810 gigatonnes) and dissolved in all water bodies (approximately 36,000 gigatons). Around 1,900 gigatons are present in the biosphere. Hydrocarbons (such as coal, petroleum, and natural gas) contain carbon as well—coal &quot;reserves&quot; (not &quot;resources&quot;) amount to around 900 gigatons, and oil reserves around 150 gigatons. With smaller amounts of calcium, magnesium, and iron, carbon is a major component in very large masses of carbonate rock (limestone, dolomite, marble etc.).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carbon (pronounced /ˈkɑrbən/) is the chemical element with symbol C and atomic number 6. As a member of group 14 on the periodic table, it is nonmetallic and tetravalent—making four electrons available to form covalent chemical bonds. There are three naturally occurring isotopes, with 12C and 13C being stable, while 14C is radioactive, decaying with a half-life of about 5730 years.[7] Carbon is one of the few elements known since antiquity.[8][9] The name &#8220;carbon&#8221; comes from Latin language carbo, coal, and, in some Romance and Slavic languages, the word carbon can refer both to the element and to coal.</p>
<p>There are several allotropes of carbon of which the best known are graphite, diamond, and amorphous carbon.[10] The physical properties of carbon vary widely with the allotropic form. For example, diamond is highly transparent, while graphite is opaque and black. Diamond is among the hardest materials known, while graphite is soft enough to form a streak on paper (hence its name, from the Greek word &#8220;to write&#8221;). Diamond has a very low electrical conductivity, while graphite is a very good conductor. Under normal conditions, diamond has the highest thermal conductivity of all known materials. All the allotropic forms are solids under normal conditions but graphite is the most thermodynamically stable.</p>
<p>All forms of carbon are highly stable, requiring high temperature to react even with oxygen. The most common oxidation state of carbon in inorganic compounds is +4, while +2 is found in carbon monoxide and other transition metal carbonyl complexes. The largest sources of inorganic carbon are limestones, dolomites and carbon dioxide, but significant quantities occur in organic deposits of coal, peat, oil and methane clathrates. Carbon forms more compounds than any other element, with almost ten million pure organic compounds described to date, which in turn are a tiny fraction of such compounds that are theoretically possible under standard conditions.[11]</p>
<p>Carbon is the fourth most abundant element in the universe by mass after hydrogen, helium, and oxygen. It is present in all known lifeforms, and in the human body carbon is the second most abundant element by mass (about 18.5%) after oxygen.[12] This abundance, together with the unique diversity of organic compounds and their unusual polymer-forming ability at the temperatures commonly encountered on Earth, make this element the chemical basis of all known life.<br />
Carbon compounds form the basis of all known so far life on Earth, and the carbon-nitrogen cycle provides some of the energy produced by the Sun and other stars. Although it forms an extraordinary variety of compounds, most forms of carbon are comparatively unreactive under normal conditions<br />
Carbon is the fourth most abundant chemical element in the universe by mass after hydrogen, helium, and oxygen. Carbon is abundant in the Sun, stars, comets, and in the atmospheres of most planets. Some meteorites contain microscopic diamonds that were formed when the solar system was still a protoplanetary disk. Microscopic diamonds may also be formed by the intense pressure and high temperature at the sites of meteorite impacts.[29]</p>
<p>&#8220;Present day&#8221; (1990s) sea surface dissolved inorganic carbon concentration (from the GLODAP climatology)In combination with oxygen in carbon dioxide, carbon is found in the Earth&#8217;s atmosphere (in quantities of approximately 810 gigatonnes) and dissolved in all water bodies (approximately 36,000 gigatons). Around 1,900 gigatons are present in the biosphere. Hydrocarbons (such as coal, petroleum, and natural gas) contain carbon as well—coal &#8220;reserves&#8221; (not &#8220;resources&#8221;) amount to around 900 gigatons, and oil reserves around 150 gigatons. With smaller amounts of calcium, magnesium, and iron, carbon is a major component in very large masses of carbonate rock (limestone, dolomite, marble etc.).<br />
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		<title>By: parade of fools</title>
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		<dc:creator>parade of fools</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 03:49:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The governments campaign against global warming would be funny if the consequences were not so serious. The US has been for many years suppressing technologies that would create more energy with less fossil fuels, The inventors of these new technologies are either paid off or are buried with there patents, The government does not care if you conserve energy or not they just want you to pay more for it. Its just not fossil fuel only the new game in the future is water, that&#039;s right water the billionaires of this country with the help of there political cronies have been buying up the water rights through out the country. Did you ever wonder why the Bush&#039;s bought 98,000 acres of land in South America? No it was not to build condos it is get control of the water rights. Ted turner owns 2 million acres in the US alone I not saying his intentions are to control water because at this time I don&#039;t know what his intentions are for this land, but I can tell this its not to sit there doing nothing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The governments campaign against global warming would be funny if the consequences were not so serious. The US has been for many years suppressing technologies that would create more energy with less fossil fuels, The inventors of these new technologies are either paid off or are buried with there patents, The government does not care if you conserve energy or not they just want you to pay more for it. Its just not fossil fuel only the new game in the future is water, that&#8217;s right water the billionaires of this country with the help of there political cronies have been buying up the water rights through out the country. Did you ever wonder why the Bush&#8217;s bought 98,000 acres of land in South America? No it was not to build condos it is get control of the water rights. Ted turner owns 2 million acres in the US alone I not saying his intentions are to control water because at this time I don&#8217;t know what his intentions are for this land, but I can tell this its not to sit there doing nothing.</p>
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		<title>By: poorboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>poorboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 22:38:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Most Powerful Military Force in the World is the American People
http://www.pentwhistle.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Most Powerful Military Force in the World is the American People<br />
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		<title>By: Archangel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Archangel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 19:57:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cap-and-Trade will lead to black market energy, brownouts and food shortages.  In most of the country, you can die from heat stroke, hypothermia or starvation without an adequate, reliable source of energy.  Would you rather live in a high-rise condo or on land with good water as this social experiment unwinds?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cap-and-Trade will lead to black market energy, brownouts and food shortages.  In most of the country, you can die from heat stroke, hypothermia or starvation without an adequate, reliable source of energy.  Would you rather live in a high-rise condo or on land with good water as this social experiment unwinds?</p>
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