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CIA-Linked Intel Center Releases Highly Suspicious Bin Laden Tape
Shadowy terror leader pops up right on time again to get Obama’s wars back on track as public opposition hits an all time high
Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet.com
Monday, September 14, 2009
The shadowy figure of Osama Bin Laden has popped up once again out of nowhere and right on time to re-energize the war in Afghanistan at the most politically opportune moment for the White House, strengthening deeply held suspicions that the terror leader has been dead for years and is merely being artificially resurrected as a sock puppet to rescue a failing geopolitical agenda.
Sky News reports today that in an audio tape, Bin Laden insists that Barack Obama is “powerless” to halt the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, which is an odd statement to make in light of the fact that Obama has expanded the war in Afghanistan as well as Pakistan and only overseen a mirage of a withdrawal in Iraq.
This latest tape arrives on the back of the deadliest month ever for U.S. forces since the September 2001 invasion. According to CNN, the August death toll of 46 U.S. troops was the highest monthly toll of the eight year conflict.
Recent public opinion polls also show that “opposition to the war in Afghanistan is at an all-time high” on the back of an obviously rigged election that returned U.S. puppet President Hamid Karzai to power.
President Obama has come under increasing pressure as his hollow promise of “change” evaporates and the wars in Afghanistan and Pakistan are rapidly expanded beyond anything the Bush administration even attempted. Cue the entrance of Bin Laden to provide the perfect justification for increasing the U.S. presence in Afghanistan and enabling the White House to dismiss critics as Al-Qaeda sympathizers.
Bin Laden’s talking points, or those ascribed to him by whoever made the audio tape, once again stoke strong suspicions that this is merely another propaganda stunt manufactured by the U.S. military-industrial complex, because they echo criticisms made of Obama domestically that he has cozied up to the Israeli lobby and has retained Bush appointees like Defense Secretary Robert Gates and General Robert Petraeus.
Bin Laden’s alleged audio tape will do nothing whatsoever to harm Obama’s agenda in Afghanistan and indeed it will be cited by the White House as a reason for keeping and expanding America’s presence in the country – which is what makes the alleged tape all the more suspicious.
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First and foremost, the notion that Bin Laden has been dead for many years is accepted by a growing number of intelligence analysts and academics.
This was explored last week in a Daily Mail article which asked the question, “What if everything we have seen or heard of him on video and audio tapes since the early days after 9/11 is a fake – and that he is being kept ‘alive’ by the Western allies to stir up support for the war on terror?,” noting further that this “breathtaking theory” was “gaining credence among political commentators, respected academics and even terror experts.”
The theory first received an airing in the American Spectator magazine earlier this year when former U.S. foreign intelligence officer and senior editor Angelo M. Codevilla, a professor of international relations at Boston University, stated bluntly: ‘All the evidence suggests Elvis Presley is more alive today than Osama Bin Laden.’
Prof Codevilla pointed to inconsistencies in the videos and claimed there have been no reputable sightings of Bin Laden for years (for instance, all interceptions by the West of communications made by the Al Qaeda leader suddenly ceased in late 2001).
Prof Codevilla asserted: ‘The video and audio tapes alleged to be Osama’s never convince the impartial observer,’ he asserted. ‘The guy just does not look like Osama. Some videos show him with a Semitic, aquiline nose, while others show him with a shorter, broader one. Next to that, differences between the colours and styles of his beard are small stuff.’
There are other doubters, too. Professor Bruce Lawrence, head of Duke University’s religious studies’ department and the foremost Bin Laden expert, argues that the increasingly secular language in the video and audio tapes of Osama (his earliest ones are littered with references to God and the Prophet Mohammed) are inconsistent with his strict Islamic religion, Wahhabism.
He notes that, on one video, Bin Laden wears golden rings on his fingers, an adornment banned among Wahhabi followers.
Further evidence that Bin Laden is dead is explored at length in the Daily Mail piece, but the source of the audio and video tapes alone is enough to all but conclude that they are being coming straight out of the U.S. military-industrial complex.
The new audio tape was again released by IntelCenter. As we have exhaustively documented, Intelcenter is an offshoot of IDEFENSE, which was staffed by a senior military psy-op intelligence officer Jim Melnick, who has worked directly for Donald Rumsfeld. The organization released the “laughing hijackers” tape and claimed it was an Al-Qaeda video, despite the fact that the footage was obtained by a “security agency” at a 2000 Bin Laden speech.
IntelCenter was also caught adding its logo to a tape at the same time as Al-Qaeda’s so-called media arm As-Sahab added its logo, proving the two organizations were one and the same.
The Pakistani based Al-Qaeda group Jundullah, formerly headed by the alleged mastermind of 9/11, an organization which enjoys the funding, support and protection of the CIA, also produces propaganda tapes and literature for As-Sahab and in turn IntelCenter.
Several of the previous Bin Laden tapes have been denounced as fake, including a 2002 audio tape which was not authentic according to a Swiss research institute. Experts at the Lausanne-based Dalle Molle Institute for Perceptual Artificial Intelligence compared the tape with 20 earlier recordings of Bin Laden and concluded that the November 2002 tape was fraudulent, in other words that it was someone pretending to be Bin Laden.
We have just about lost count of the amount of times IntelCenter has released a tape from “Al-Qaeda” or “Bin Laden” at the most politically expedient time for the government, whether that be Bush or Obama. The most infamous was the Bin Laden tape that appeared just before the 2004 election that both Bush and Kerry attributed to George W. Bush gaining re-election.
Given the timing of this release, when opposition to the war in Afghanistan is at an all time high, when 9/11 truth is firmly back under national scrutiny following Charlie Sheen’s letter to the President, along with August being the deadliest month in Afghanistan for U.S. troops, the motivation behind releasing a fake Bin Laden tape is abundantly clear and strongly indicates that the Obama White House is replicating the same crude propaganda ploys served up during the eight-year tenure of the Bush administration.
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September 14th, 2009 at 10:26 am
sure does NOT look like the same man to me. center for global research and whatdoesitmean.com have some news for you. love sandie
REX-84 Reply:
September 14th, 2009 at 10:55 am
Clearly a fake, or he’s a pawn. Doesn’t really matter. It’s fear mongering and mindless drivel to confuse the masses, false flag ops and more police state tactics to come. Innocent American lives will be lost, I give it less than a year.
http://www.rex-84.info
snafuism Reply:
September 14th, 2009 at 12:51 pm
on second glance, I think it’s George Clooney with a nose job.
tophuggles Reply:
September 14th, 2009 at 4:18 pm
I think it means that Israel and the US are upto something. These videos turn up in pairs so I suspect a second one will turn up after a horrific terror act and this will mean the War on Terror Convey will move onto Syria or Iran. Either way, Israel will open a front on the Lebanon and a 300 mile buffer zone will be grabbed on account of the important Litani River waters. Israel needs water and land so the Lebanese will have to give theirs up.
REX-84 Reply:
September 14th, 2009 at 6:18 pm
I couldn’t agree more.
william b travis Reply:
September 14th, 2009 at 10:57 am
james carville and other high ranking democrat operatives
were in afghanistan to help fraud the vote
bin laden is and has been for years a high ranking asset of the cia
911 was a fraud the buildings were hit by missles
and all the video footage was manufactured
check it out for yourself it s on youtube
mash Reply:
September 14th, 2009 at 7:19 pm
Dear william b travis,
I adamantly disagree with you on two points; 1) Osama was, not is, a CIA asset as he is dead even according to Benezir Bhutto. 2) Only the Pentagon was hit by a missile timed to coincide with a jet liner doing a fly-by so eye-witnesses would believe it was the jet liner. Only a Govt. agent would pass dis-info like missiles or laser beams brought down WTC 1, 2 & 7. Two aweful Govt. shills made a ridiculous documentary called “September Clues” to discredit the 9/11 truth movement. I posted comments on their youtube video debating them only to have my remarks quickly removed and a reply sent to me laced with horrendous profanity & homosexual slurs by one of the makers of the film(which was also curiously not posted on the video page). Strangely I am banned from posting any more comments on their dis-info video. Drekx Omega turned me on to the best documentary thus far explaining how the Pentagon attack went down. This video is a must see and just as important as the Loose Change series for all truthers. I hope you’re not a subscriber to the ill-logic/dis-info that “September Clues” promotes.
PLEASE WATCH THIS MUST SEE VIDEO!!!: National Security Alert – Sensitive Information
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5FhQc-LJ-o
spukester Reply:
September 14th, 2009 at 11:02 am
yup… zyOps distraction #5237
false flag #2 on the way. Time to head to Costco or Sams. Pinto beans are still cheap.
br549 Reply:
September 26th, 2009 at 5:45 pm
Yeah, the GMO ones.
LMAO Reply:
September 14th, 2009 at 11:05 am
LMAO
Change you can believe in. Anyone who can google can quickly find out Osama was a CIAGENT and an assett of the american people (Government).
If Obama was’nt a stooge he would denounce this Osama propaganda, just like JFK denounced the CIA and was in the process of destroying it before Bush Sr. Shot him in TX.
LMAO Reply:
September 14th, 2009 at 11:07 am
LMAO
Change you can believe in. Anyone who can google can quickly find out Osama was a CIAGENT and an asset of the American people (Government).
If Obama wasn’t a stooge he would denounce this Osama propaganda, just like JFK denounced the CIA before Bush Sr. Shot him in TX.
Dee Reply:
September 14th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
Looks like Obama’s twin to me — always did.
Jim Reply:
September 14th, 2009 at 4:01 pm
If this is the real Osama, then that would make the rest of the photos Ive seen a fake. This photo clearly shows a Diastema(gap between the teeth) between the Maxillary central incisor’s, this photo wich is far older http://www.corrupt.org/data/files/osama_bin_laden/ shows the gap between the Maxillary and the Canines while there is little noticible space between the Incisor’s. If you google Osama photos and pay speacial attention to the teeth you will notice that the majority of them have these little observed but big discrepancy’s. Ive even seen photos wich clearly show no teeth. Unless this guy has a wide variety of poorly crafted false-teeth or this is just another false-photo.
No To NWO. Reply:
September 14th, 2009 at 6:03 pm
His mannerisms look different to me. He is more “docilic” and feminine. He’s very humble for a guy who bombed the WTC in ‘91 and eluded capture from the World’s foremost superpower.
The Jury Reply:
September 14th, 2009 at 8:37 pm
This is a nicely written article. Thank you Paul Joseph Watson.
Jim Shores Reply:
September 14th, 2009 at 9:32 pm
The NWO cannot attract talent. Evidently the same stupid demons that made a mess out of 911 are still calling the shots down at the NWO clubhouse (the White House) and will continue to screw-up until they bring the whole thing down. Pitiful fools!
September 14th, 2009 at 10:33 am
Osama Bin Laden is no longer a person per se… It is simply a description or a label. Like Elvis. He’s dead, but there are 1000s of folks who dress up like him and answer to the name “Elvis”. Something tells me that someone in the “Taliban” can buy a decent camera off of ebay and make a quality “we hate you and will kill you” video.
Horus Reply:
September 14th, 2009 at 12:27 pm
His trademarked face has sold us on the successful “war on terror” franchise. He will take his place in the corporate hall of fame along side Colonel Sanders, Betty Crocker, and Aunt Jemima.
Does anyone recall his famous slogan? How about this one: “Hostility toward America is a religious duty, and we hope to be rewarded for it by God . . . . I am confident that Muslims will be able to end the legend of the so-called superpower that is America.”
Not quite as catchy as “finger lickin’ good”.
Jim Shores Reply:
September 14th, 2009 at 9:35 pm
We are still a Super Power, we just need to get rid of the losers that are scaming the world that only know how to lie, steal, murder, corrupt and worship Satan. FOOLS!
Drekx Omega Reply:
September 15th, 2009 at 5:51 am
Yes, OBL is very much a corporate logo, for the so called war on terror. The inspiration for this particular face, (chosen from the Bin Laden family, as Bush oil partners,) was to do with it’s long and sinister quality. Tim Osman, CIA asset, has been groomed to fill the shoes of that sinister fictional character from the Sax Rohmer novels, Fu Manchu. And note he is unusually tall for an Arab, very much in keeping with the awesome stature of horror films actor, Christopher Lee.
Yes, Tim Osman, aka OBL is a well packaged corporate trademark, with international marketing behind him. He could surpass Hammer Films from the 1960s…
In many ways he is a fictional character, as he does not serve in any capacity, save that of an actor in Illuminati movies.
September 14th, 2009 at 10:34 am
i think bin laden found the fountain of youth cause he never seem’s to age, plus hes wrinkle free, i need to know his secret
FountainOfYouth Reply:
September 14th, 2009 at 3:10 pm
Gotu Kola. Its very popular in india, and other warm areas.
September 14th, 2009 at 10:39 am
sky news blows.
September 14th, 2009 at 10:51 am
Martyr for his people, 911 was an inside job!
http://pakalert.wordpress.com/how-911-was-done/
September 14th, 2009 at 10:51 am
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September 14th, 2009 at 10:54 am
Do you have friends and family who just don’t get it about 911? Do you want to throw cold water in their face or just slap them and say “HEYWAKEUP!” Try this instead. Print one of these and calmly ask them to read it. You’ll be glad you did.
http://www.thegoodseed.com/Wha.....On%209.pdf
September 14th, 2009 at 10:56 am
What is the difference between Husein Obama and Osama ? This is not a trick question!
it is a serious question? My take is BOTH are Musslim and the Osama works for his cousin
Obama! LOL
Thompson Reply:
September 14th, 2009 at 11:16 am
The difference is that Osama is employed by Christian Intelligent Service(C.IA) long before Obama.
Jim Shores Reply:
September 14th, 2009 at 9:37 pm
Thompson, WEAK BS. You are fired!, signed David Rockefeller
Little Miss Sunshine Reply:
September 14th, 2009 at 12:15 pm
Bishop, you muslim hater!
Jim Shores Reply:
September 14th, 2009 at 9:37 pm
I am starting to hate little sunshine.
September 14th, 2009 at 11:05 am
Yup DEAD!
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,41576,00.html
September 14th, 2009 at 11:09 am
This stuff is so fake. We can make the same stuff on a single core netbook using MSPaint and Windows Movie Maker.
September 14th, 2009 at 11:12 am
Ben N. Venzke and a Rita Katz of SITE Intellegence put this crap out again.
Looks like Site/US Gov/Mossad ops has put out another load of crap. Site last got caught putting out the 2007 Bin Laden fake video
Copy this URL page below and then check out “SITE INTELLEGENCE” on the web.
Our government and media, and esp. Israel in action, as they continually concocting a war.
All the propaganda on Bin Laden comes from “SITe” in Florida. (SITE Intelligence Group)
See the last fake video they made below….
http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....01817.html
It is so hokey, the guy looked like a fake from a mile away. When outed, SITE said, great, now that Bin Laden knows “SITE” can no longer be trusted with his videos, he will stop sending them to us. And, conveniently Bin Laden stopped sending original tape to them! What tripe! This is special ops! Or Spys in action.
One guy with a pulse on this problem is Freeman
Freeman lashed out at his critics Tuesday evening, releasing a statement blaming “the Israel Lobby” and “unscrupulous people with a passionate attachment to the views of a political faction in a foreign country” for his exit.
“The tactics of the Israel Lobby plumb the depths of dishonor and indecency and include character assassination, selective misquotation, the willful distortion of the record, the fabrication of falsehoods, and an utter disregard for the truth,” he said. “The aim of this Lobby is control of the policy process through the exercise of a veto over the appointment of people who dispute the wisdom of its views, the substitution of political correctness for analysis, and the exclusion of any and all options for decision by Americans and our government other than those that it favors.”
Said Freeman : These type of cover story happens when the truth comes out and the spooks get dimed out!
September 14th, 2009 at 11:16 am
And OBL went on to say…
“Boogity Boogity Boo!”
September 14th, 2009 at 11:16 am
Wow he looks awesome for a dead guy.
September 14th, 2009 at 11:17 am
Why does this picture look graphed in.
September 14th, 2009 at 11:19 am
I was wondering when some new fake Osama footage would come out. Isn’t Sky News owned by neo-cons? Even though that msnbc clip about the 10th amendment was a good idea, keep in mind newsbusters.org is a neo-con site.
September 14th, 2009 at 11:21 am
I’ve been saying for years that they will never find him. If he is dead, it doesn’t matter.
He will be forever remembered as the “Face to Chase”
In the year 2125, they will still have tapes like this.
Not at all surprised by this. Are you?
September 14th, 2009 at 11:24 am
He’s an impersonator. You can tell he’s much too young, even with the dyed grey beard. No deep age lines on the face. OBL looked like a walking corpse back in ‘01. Think he aged regressed in 8 years? hahahahah Nice try though CIA
September 14th, 2009 at 11:25 am
ps- his hands too. young hands.
September 14th, 2009 at 11:27 am
MY SEVEN YEAR OLD COULD PASTE AND CUT A BETTER PICTURE.THE TIMING IS PERFECT.THESE MORONS CANT EVEN SCAM GOOD ANYMORE,THIS IS SOME WEAK SHIT.THE YELLOW JOURNALISM WILL RUN THIS INTO THE WEAK MINDED AGAIN AND AGAIN,AND AGAIN.
phishybongwaters Reply:
September 14th, 2009 at 11:45 am
umm, that picture IS bin Laden, this article is about an AUDIO TAPE
rAT Reply:
September 16th, 2009 at 9:54 pm
got me!!!! hahahahahahahahahah
September 14th, 2009 at 11:30 am
There were never any planes, and I dont even think there is a city of New York. So that must mean there is no Osama. This life is all a conspiracy, I dont even think I am here nor there. I am lost help the boggyman is out there that evil goverment….. Where is my tye dyed shirt and my dreadlocks man….
phishybongwaters Reply:
September 14th, 2009 at 11:45 am
Then why take the time to post nonsense like that here?
shocked and awed Reply:
September 14th, 2009 at 12:27 pm
Cause he’s already choaked his chicken for the day and that leaves him with 23 hours and 59 minutes worth of time on his hands.
Ronda Reply:
September 14th, 2009 at 2:33 pm
I’m kinda hoping some hippie kicks your ass.
September 14th, 2009 at 11:34 am
How much more evidence do we need before the sheeple will wake up and see 9/11 for the lie that it is and the fraud that the war on terror is? While you’re queing up to get your vaccine with mercury and squalene as an added bonus because your government loves you and has your best interests at heart maybe you will have an awakening epiphany that will release you from the grip of the type of mentality that demonises does who have the courage to ask questions. Does of you who believes implicitly in the goodness of government are like lemmings walking blindly to the cliff.
If Obama was sure that 9/11 was commited by evil islamists he would offer up the proof with a new 9/11 investigation as demande by Charlie Sheen. But of course Obama knows well that 9/11 was an inside job just as “how dare you, how dare you” Clinton drug dealer said with false self righteousness, the same self righteousness that he issued his “I did not have sex with that woman”.
September 14th, 2009 at 11:34 am
should of gave him a nose job.
too bad we have old pictures of bin laden to look at.
oh ya.
I think the CIA forgot about the old pic’s of bin Laden we can look at.
come on CIA, this is the new age. try to be a little more intelligent. I know that is hard for the CIA. You all did go to college. Got brainwashed and think you are smart. YOU ARE NOT INTELLIGENT> COLLEGE WILL NOT DO THAT FOR YOU. It will get you a job. That is all. They know you got brainwashed to fear for your job if you buck the system.
The CIA may as well of had my Pic here and called me BIN Laden. Or does the CIA still think that black guys and chinese guys and Saudis all look alike to us dumb caucasions?
They don’t. They are all individuals.
September 14th, 2009 at 11:36 am
I’m still blown away by the fact that so many people still believe these tapes are real. I’ve always wondered why it is that only Intelcenter can manage to find these “tapes” and no one else.. hmm I wonder. It’s not much of a shock to find out Americans are some of the dumbest and most gullible.
September 14th, 2009 at 11:37 am
http://www.thegoodseed.com/Wha.....On%209.pdf
Do you have friends and family who just don’t get it about 911? Do you want to throw cold water in their face or just slap them and say “HEYWAKEUP!” Try this instead. Print one of these and calmly ask them to read it. You’ll be glad you did.
September 14th, 2009 at 11:44 am
Hey, his beard went from black to grey again. More CIA fakery!
September 14th, 2009 at 11:48 am
Hussein, Hussein, Hussein,Hussein, Hussein, Hussein, Hussein, Hussein, Hussein,
Say it a few more times and maybe it will have some relevance to anything. It’s his damn middle name, get the heck over it and start fight the crap he’s ACTUALLY done.
Who cares what his middle name is? WHO CARES what religion he follows, look at your countries founding documents. America was born to allow people to practice WHATEVER RELIGION THEY CHOOSE.
Stop harping on the Hussein / Muslim angle, it’s meaningless, he’s expanded the spying/torture/indefinite detention/bailouts/wars/ etc etc
And all you wanna talk about is Hussein? yeah, Obama and Osama are cousins and working together, Elvis was the lead hijacker, and Jim Morrison planted the thermite at the trace center.
pfft
Little Miss Sunshine Reply:
September 14th, 2009 at 12:13 pm
Could not have said it better myself!!!!
jody fouse Reply:
September 14th, 2009 at 2:30 pm
preachin’ to the choir bro awesome point
September 14th, 2009 at 11:53 am
looks LIKE SNOOP DOGGY DOGG’s double.// YO YO YO listen up… I iz the baddiz mothafizzle.. you see me but ya kno I am UntochaBU..
so how many of you chumps still buy the alQaeda did 9/11?? You people ought to go check out http://www.iamthewitness.com that site is off the hook, dawg!! PEACE!
September 14th, 2009 at 11:53 am
This man does not look sickly like Osama did, walking with a cane down a mountain. I remember Osama had a kidney problem.
September 14th, 2009 at 11:56 am
Hi everyone, how are you all. Yes the tape is real and me and the family are doing great,thankyou. My new wife sue has been on my ass about staying home but I really need to blow some shit up,you know what I mean. I am tired of being in this fucking cave,so next week me and the boys are sneaking out,fuck this shit. Cant wait
Jim Reply:
September 14th, 2009 at 5:30 pm
I heard Osama Executed his wife… He lifted her dress and saw Bush
craig Reply:
September 15th, 2009 at 8:26 am
lol not bad
September 14th, 2009 at 12:09 pm
I am the boogy man. Please support the war against me.
Pathetic
September 14th, 2009 at 12:32 pm
He knew the FED would never get audited he hiding in the basement. shhhhhhhhhhhhh
September 14th, 2009 at 12:35 pm
I can’t find a full transcript of the recent Osama statement anywhere. The quotes I have seen do not sound Osama-esque. They sound far too closely tailored to internal american politics, which does not concern him. He’s repeatedly on the record saying he makes no distinction between civilian americans and government/military americans, and to my knowledge has never used the term “neoconservative” in any prior statement.
September 14th, 2009 at 12:36 pm
HE LOOKS MORE AND MORE LIKE A RABBI WITH EACH NEW VIDEO.
I know the kidney thing was all rubbish because you know he wud have been hooked up quick time
like any rabbi would tell you.. Yu need a KIDNEE, Goyim? why, Fuck you.. You aren’t on the chosen list.
But for BRATHA Osama, ANYTHING.. OY vey.
Hip Hip Hurray to OSAMA(MOSSADMAN)BEING THE NUMERO UNO zionist the world has ever seen.. well because the real osama would rather DIE attached to a kidney dialysis Machine than to have that dubious honor.. WHICH HE DID FOR YEARS AND YEARS NOW!
SO THE QUESTION REMAINS: WHO THE FUCK IS THIS GUY? huh? anyone know?
nader paul kucinich gravel Reply:
September 14th, 2009 at 2:37 pm
AIPAC still thinks it works…
September 14th, 2009 at 12:37 pm
Its Wag The Dog time again !!
More infotainment Al-CIADA material.
September 14th, 2009 at 12:46 pm
Bin Laden is alive, I tell you! I had him over for lunch last week with Michael Jackson and Heath Ledger.
September 14th, 2009 at 12:48 pm
There were no planes there is no new yourk it is all a conspiracy!!
9/11, the belief that 9/11 was “an inside job.” There are 9/11 Truthers and even Firefighters for 9/11 Truth, a website started in 2008.
In fact, in this past season of the FX drama Rescue Me, a firefighter in one episode mentions his belief that 9/11 was “an inside job.” It turns out the show’s writers added this assertion because the actor playing the firefighter, Daniel Sunjata is a “Truther”; but the real firefighters on set working as script advisers reportedly were offended by his allegations. Meanwhile, the Firefighters for 9/11 Truth claim the government destroyed evidence that a third building, 7 World Trade Center, was blown up and their site hosts a petition asking Congress to look into the possibility that “exotic accelerants” destroyed the buildings.
There’s no evidence that firefighters buy into 9/11 conspiracy theories at higher rates than the rest of the population. A 2007 Zogby poll found that 26 percent of Americans believe the government “let it happen.” A 2006 Scripps-Howard poll found it was more than a third.)
But some firemen do believe the government was behind 9/11 and use their status as first responders to draw attention to their statements.
The most common conspiracy theory held by firefighters is that the Twin Towers –as well as a 7 World Trade Center– collapsed not because planes crashed into them but due to a “controlled demolition.” On Sept. 11, an NBC reporter quoted New York Fire Department Chief of Safety Albert Turi as saying he believed there were explosives planted in one of the towers. After the attacks, the New York Fire Department interviewed firefighters to create an oral history of 9/11. These tapes –which were not released until 2005– contain numerous references to explosions heard just before the buildings fell.
As to the firefighter claims about 7 World Trade Center, the National Institute of Standards and Technology, which investigated its collapse, concluded that “blast events inside the building did not occur and found no evidence supporting the existence of a blast event.”)
Another common theory is that federal agents found three of the planes’ four black boxes and then hid or destroyed them because they contained incriminating evidence. Nicholas DeMasi, a firefighter formerly with Engine Company 261 in Queens, was quoted in a 2003 book saying that he was there when federal agents made the discovery. Another first responder corroborated his account. Although his allegations are contradicted by The 9/11 Commission Report, which says the boxes were never found, many Truthers choose to believe there was a cover-up.
Do other professions marshal their own expertise to poke holes in the official story? Absolutely. Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth claim that the physics of the towers’ collapse as evidence that they could not have fallen exclusively because of the planes’ impact. They point to its “free fall” pace, the “lateral ejection” of steel, the “mid-air pulverization of concrete.”
Pilots for 9/11 Truth have their own set of theories that focus on the planes’ black boxes and flight paths, arguing, for example, that the hijackers of American Airlines Flight 77 would have had to perform an extremely difficult aerial maneuver to hit the Pentagon where they did.
Lawyers for 9/11 Truth argue that the 9/11 Commission investigation was inadequate.
Scholars for 9/11 Truth and Justice (not to be confused with its rival, Scholars for 9/11 Truth), tackles scientific aspects of the towers’ collapse, such as the alleged residue of explosive materials like thermate in the dust at Ground Zero.
One notable group that does not have its own 9/11 truth group is the police force.
Now, it goes without saying that there are people who don’t believe it was a conspiracy and within that group exists a subset of people intent on debunking the conspiracy claims –debunkers debunking the Truthers– and that’s followed by debunkers debunking the debunkers.
The fascination
I must admit, I have a weakness for conspiracy theories but I have a catch-all for most of them: I don’t believe them, however, if incontrovertible evidence surfaces that the theory is true, I wouldn’t be surprised. I don’t believe the lone gunman theory behind JFK’s assassination but that’s not good enough; It doesn’t matter what I believe, it only matters what I can prove and as far as I can tell, there’s no immutable proof that Kennedy was killed, say, the way Oliver Stone portrayed (though I loved the film).
As for the 9/11 Truthers, George Bush and Dick Cheney would have to admit it first hand on Sean Hannity’s program for me to even take an interest, and after they said it, they’d better well show some evidence beyond their words that proves it. Otherwise… well, it’s kind of like watch a fish tank. You sort of observe it, then, you get tired of it until that one first inflates itself and turns colors or something.
I had a Truther argue with me that the Pentagon was actually hit by a Navy missile, attacked as part of a fiscal cover-up. According to this theory, then-Secretary of Defense Don Rumsfeld said we’re $32 trillion dollars over budget in a black DOD budget and we don’t know where the money is, and the next day, the people who died were the ones auditing that part of the Pentagon budget.
“So if we took out the Pentagon ourselves with a Navy missile, what happened at the Trade Center?”
“Ah, those planes were radio-controlled into those buildings.”
So what you’re telling me is that the United States is responsible for flying the airplanes into the World Trade Center?”
“Absolutely, yes. 110 percent YES! And people need to wake up!”
How about some logic?
Do you have any idea how much effort it takes and how many people have to be involved, complicit and remain silent to maintain the kind of conspiracy being alleged here?
Do you have any idea how much temptation there is on the part of at least one of them to blow the whistle and ultimately to reveal the story, and be a hero, not to mention be rewarded with substantial profit for such revelations by writing the definitive book and then getting the concomitant movie deal?
I said this to my Truther conversationalist and he said, “Don’t worry, they’ll wait till they’re on their death bed and then they’re going to spill the beans –like they always do. That’s what people do when they work for the government.”
“If you’re so talented that you can pick apart these explanations about what happened on 9/11, why haven’t you written a book on all this? You’d make a king’s ransom and you’d do your country an incredible service to establish the truth.”
“I don’t wanna be murdered! Because we live in a police state!”
He added that he plans to move to another country.
Sorry, but it is almost impossible to keep a conspiracy of this magnitude a conspiracy. And yet, the enormity of the effort needed to do that does not occur to these people. They wave that away as if by sleight of hand. We can’t even keep secret some governor having an affair with a woman in a completely different hemisphere.
Why, even, would you bomb more than one building? If you take the premise that the United States needed a reason to invade countries in the Middle East, which is one of the rationales used by Truthers to explain the motives behind the attack, why would you need to use four planes? If you had destroyed just one tower, wouldn’t the effect have been the same?
But, they would have you believe that the plan required the lives of a few thousand people and not a few hundred, and that the plan was intentionally made more complex even though it didn’t need to be, just so the cover-up would be more difficult to uncover.
And that’d be followed by a mountain of details about this explosive, or that building design, or the lack of debris field. The Truthers have an encyclopedic collection of details –it’s common among conspiracy theorists– millions of details they can toss into a conversation whether they’re relevant or not, true or not.
What’s particularly fascinating is that their zeal is the same regardless of the theory. Compare, for instance, the Truther with the Birther.
And it’s a good comparison, too, because the people who tend not to believe the Truthers are the same ones inclined to believe the Birthers, and the ones who think the Birthers are nuts are the same ones who grant complete deference to the Truthers.
Does this not strike you as odd?
The funny thing is, if you answer that question, as to whether it strikes you odd, you’ll say no, it doesn’t. And then you’ll go about trying to convince me why the theory you believe in is correct. But not that other theory. Only nutbag “conservatards” believe that, or only “lieberals” believe that.
What is it about conspiracy theorists? Truthers, Birthers, Death Panelers, Holocaust Deniers, Moon Landing Freaks and Secret Society Nutjobs. They all seem cut from the same cloth. They believe what they want to believe, facts be damned.
A theory
I wonder: Do you think any of this has to do with this populist notion that so many people hate the government? If you dig down below the surface enough, do you find that the people propagating these theories ultimately have a deep-seeded mistrust of the government?
The idea of hating your government, or at the very least, mistrusting it, again, seems driven by one’s politics. You pick the issue base on your political ideology. If you dislike the current president, you might tend to align with the Birthers; you might even be one.
If you despised the previous president, you’re more inclined to side with the Truthers, and you might even be one.
And despite the clear polarities represented in those two conspiracy theories, the progenitors and supporters and believers of each, think exactly alike. They’re like rabid, crazed sports fans. The fact that half root for the Pittsburgh Steelers and the other half root for New England is beside the point; both sides, though totally opposite ideologically, are exactly alike neurologically.
Of course, they’d be hard pressed to see that, I suspect, since that would be yet another reality they would insist on denying. All while disparaging you, of course. But that’s another commonality they have which we need not get into; they’ll prove that one on their own.
As I say, I may have a place in my heart for conspiracy theories but I have a better place in my mind for logic and facts.
Don’t you?
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Peter Wolf Reply:
September 14th, 2009 at 3:24 pm
Could you post shorter comments next time President Christian ?
A very large percentage of your post wasnt really adding anything of any interest and could easily have been edited out and you would still have got point across adequately.
Remember its not the amount of words in a post that proves that you are somehow more enlightened than everyone else but the actual content of it.
Some conspiracy theories hold water and others dont and yes some of those who have certain beliefs can get a little bit carried away and havent always thought things through properly.
Disseminating between the two involves critical thinking and logic and facts.
This is all subjective of course because your logical conclusion may be completely different to mine and my own logic and thinking concludes that the official version of events is bullshit.
You are not really saying anything new here.
Myself i dont believe the conspiracy theory that is the official version of events mostly because i dont believe the word of criminals and liars and career politicians and their attendant Muppet Media and i dont buy into their politics of fear and scaremongering.
I havent seen any convincing evidence that proves the official story and answers the multitude of unanswered questions satisfactorily.
Canada Reply:
September 14th, 2009 at 5:54 pm
President Christian,
First off, why do you call yourself president? Are you president of your high school drama club? Or is that just a fantasy title?
Did you ever get taught to read between the lines? Did you know that the majority of people, no matter what you do, lie through their teeth, letting others hear what they want to hear, including yourself? Did you know that? Anyone in power, including police and other authority figures lie like the son of a bitch that they are. That’s how they got their positions of power. They obey their masters and without question. When you get old enough and deal with enough people, you’ll figure that part out.
You ask how all those people could keep such a thing covered up? You don’t know how the ones at the top work do you? Does the mafia Don tell all his men what his plans are? And if someone ever rats on them, is he not in witness protection programs run by the very government that you’re talking about? Who is going to rat out the government?
Should those people go to the mafia, in their witness protection programs? Maybe the Mormons have one and can keep them safe. Use your brain if you have one.
Anyone that has a family is threatened by death if they reveal anything. First they will kill the parents and wife and children of any rats. Then they will kill them. What don’t you understand? The police are powerless to act against these kinds of sick people.
And if the police are scared to death of them, then who in his right mind is going to tell all. Only a few know everything. The pawns don’t know crap except what they were ordered to do. The cowardly rest just keep their mouths shut, afraid of dying.
Are you that stupid or just not street smart? You weren’t aware of this?
You go believe whatever your feuhrer (leader) has to say. Believe everything they say.
When you see what’s awaiting you, you’ll wish you used your brain a little bit more.
I do notice that the ones who call the people who stand up names have no evidence for backing up their claim. They just call them a nut or crackpot. Without evidence.
Seriously, only a crazy nut will believe a fool that shoots shit out of his mouth with nothing to back it up. And you’re one of them. These people here have facts upon facts that point the finger at a coverup. Then some shithead comes along and demands WHO DID IT? And when you can’t answer that, they walk away smug as if they’re enlightened fools. They laugh. Laugh at the deaths of those who jumped off those towers. They laugh at people who want justice. They laugh at people who mention God. They laugh at the women and children raped and murdered overseas. They laugh.
So if I were to kill your parents, your girlfriend if you have one, children if you have any, you would think that’s funny and laugh? Those very people you defend would.
The concerned ones would want justice for you, yet the majority would laugh until it happens to them. Then they cry. Boo Hoo
What comes around goes around. It’s a known fact.
Murray Rothbard Reply:
September 14th, 2009 at 8:42 pm
you’re a fucking fag dude
Alison Reply:
September 15th, 2009 at 5:04 am
President Christian your comment has failed, and represents wasted effort on your part.
You are arrogant for assuming that some people here will be stupid enough to swallow your tripe.
However, I wish to thank you. After all, we all need tests of our critical thinking skills. Although reading your piece was a real drag, it was interesting spotting the various little tricks you used in making it up.
Guess what, dude? All efforts like this are misguided. You would be better off completely ignoring what 911truth people are talking about. Posting this kind of rubbish only keeps attention, focus, and critical thought (of the genuine kind – not your so-called “logic”) on the debate.
You are therefore working against your own best interests. What are you going to do when the pressure becomes too great? You might have to run for it! Now that would be exciting!
Everybody is fed up to the back teeth with your cointelpro shit. But by all means keep posting it, as I said before, it helps the truth one way or the other.
Defending the Official Story, given all the facts we now have at our disposal, is evidence which could support a legal case for complicity with mass murder.
You are finished.
Love Alison
September 14th, 2009 at 12:55 pm
TWO MINUTES HATE:
Emmanuel Goldstein
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmanuel_Goldstein
http://www.facebook.com/people.....0026485722
http://whatreallyhappened.com/.....stein.html
http://www.orwelltoday.com/twominutes.shtml
September 14th, 2009 at 1:17 pm
One great tool to awaken people would be for amateurs to get a Osama look alike, make a fake video and leak it out, let MSM go nuts on it then reveal it’s a fraud made by amateurs, just an idea here
Eric Reply:
September 14th, 2009 at 2:24 pm
Not going to work.
Anything that is not handed to them from inside will not be shown on the MSM. So you can fake all you want but they are not going to bite to put it in the MSM. Remember who owns the MSM……
Jim Shores Reply:
September 14th, 2009 at 9:42 pm
It is MSN for crying out loud.
September 14th, 2009 at 1:19 pm
I said it over three years ago, and I linked to pertinent articles on Osama’s death back then- “Osama bin Dead! Sheeple bin Ba-aa-amboozled Again!” > >
http://www.ibrattleboro.com/ar.....4153924134
September 14th, 2009 at 1:39 pm
And STILL the sheeple see not…
They are truly living in the Matrix these days…
September 14th, 2009 at 1:42 pm
Great drama! Can’t wait till the sequel.
September 14th, 2009 at 2:28 pm
Ozzie is and has always been a CIA operative, even though he’s dead, his image alone makes people pee in their pants. Amazing.
September 14th, 2009 at 2:38 pm
that guy sold me a losing lotto ticket last friday in Dearborn, Michigan
September 14th, 2009 at 2:46 pm
Shades of “Weekend At Bernie’s”. This guy’s been dead for years. Bhutto even announced it on CNN in an interview. Look what it got her. Croaked from the inside. Come on Traficant!
Wez the Aussie Reply:
September 14th, 2009 at 2:58 pm
Sorry robertsgt40 – I didn’t notice your post, but, great minds think alike !!! LOL
September 14th, 2009 at 2:57 pm
How can people NOT realise, that this is simply absurd? Hey, have any of you guys posting here seen, Weekend at Burnie’s? Maybe it should be renamed, Weekend at Osama’s !! LMAO
Ang Reply:
September 14th, 2009 at 6:42 pm
Lol Good one! Weekend at Binladdy’s….Oh my! what you could do with photoshop on this one. Get rid of the two guys from the movie in a pic, replace them with any of the “cast” in our government, and put those shades on Osama…
September 14th, 2009 at 3:15 pm
They just found bin laden in manhattan? I think he was plotting against chuck shumer.
September 14th, 2009 at 3:15 pm
I posted a video about this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FanFR2C5ZOA
A Muslim by the name of Daniel J Hill who predicted 9/11 says that Muslim Terrorists are going to fly private Jets in Most of the United States major cities with suitcase bombs and detonate them over the cities
September 14th, 2009 at 4:11 pm
Yes, it’s looking more and more like Osama bin Laden = Emmanuel Goldstein. I don’t even know if the former ever existed. It is just a symbol of evil, something to rally around.
September 14th, 2009 at 5:20 pm
It’s a fraud! The usa is collapsing and they are using this lie to distract people away from a rigged American government that the people no longer want. Stop the killing now! Stop killing the people with your swine flu vaccine as well….It’s genocide! The people are fed up! We are sick of the endless killing that has gone on since before we were born. The Rothschild’s and the Rockefeller’s were warned to stop and they have not stopped…we are sick of you. It’s time to arrest the Rockefeller’s and the Rothschild’s and hang them! and get rid of this scum from the planet once and for all. Down with tyranny… free the people! Everyone has woken up to the fact that the government’s of the west are a fraud! The people will not let this go on. END THE KILLING NOW BEFORE THE GOVERNMENT FALLS. NO MORE KILLING> NO MORE OIL> BRING OUT THE FREE ENERGY! Throw the bums out and arrest them.
September 14th, 2009 at 5:25 pm
Boy, he sure does have a good sense of timing. It’s almost as if he was working for them. Hmm. Bend over kids.
September 14th, 2009 at 5:28 pm
I was going to say that it is really Bush Laden because I saw it on Fox news…
But then I thought that even though there are many people are still sleeping and will NEVER get it. It was brought to my attention that the question should be focused on
who there next phantom BOOGIE MAN will be???
Any Ideas…
September 14th, 2009 at 6:07 pm
This guy has more lives than a fatcat. I want to know his secret of living and dying. Nice trick CIA but this nonsense is not going to fool the American people anymore. The people is marching hard and the Global Elites is on the run….we are coming to get you banksters…WAKE UP AMERICA!!!WAKE UP!!!!!!!
September 14th, 2009 at 6:57 pm
wow… we have some books published in here… (people when you write a book and go on and on and on… people will not listen, keep it simple stupid)
I wonder if there is someone that has access to voice print.. They can take a known copy of bins voice and compare it to the impostors… ? That would be undeniable proof that the CIA/Obama/Bush/PTB are screwing with us for their own propaganda.. I never thought in a million years Obama would follow exactly in Bush and Cheney’s footsteps… it just goes to prove their working for the NWO/PTB…~! Does anyone reading this know of any software that could do this simple task???
September 14th, 2009 at 7:16 pm
I’m trying to figure out the not so subtle nuances of Charlie Sheen. Everything about the man, which has been well documented, seems to be relatively uncontested. Yet he seems to walk through the rain drops almost effortlessly, including him going mainstream about 9/11. After stating his doubts about 911 he was rewarded with the highest paying salary for a TV show??? I would assume that would have been career cryptonite!!
Meanwhile, I would like to review the cinematic history of the Sheen family. Charlie appeared in both Wall Street and Platton directed by you know who..Thats Right Oliver Stone whom Alex himself has discredited as a sell out company man whose last two movies (World Trade Center and W.) were by his own words an outright distortion of the facts. Carlies father, Martin, narrated the opening credits to Stone’s JFK, including a myriad of other associations in the entertainment world (that of which I can still make no sense) but I would visit spirituallymart.com for further information (not to say I agree with all the accusations). When trying to analyze a criminal conspiracy one needs to establish the basics. The who,what, when, where, and how. Basic stuff really. I have put my career on the line on Alex’s show to state, in no uncertain terms, that based on my observations on 911 as a first responder and my subsequent research with 16 years of investigative experience, 911 was an inside job. I’m just trying to figure out how Alex and his people fit into all of it!
September 14th, 2009 at 7:25 pm
I bet they picked him up in Afghanistan when they picked up the bin Laden family members in the U.S. after 911 when all planes grounded in U.S., and he’s in Saudi with his ultra-rich family or hanging out in Barain with the ultra-rich crooks there along with Ken Leigh, etc.
September 14th, 2009 at 7:39 pm
http://www.KeepTheTruthAlive.com
September 14th, 2009 at 8:37 pm
Bin Laden was seen Sunday at the Camp Casey Korea (aka Pilipino hookerville) snack bar–ordered a large Polish sausage …with fries!
September 14th, 2009 at 8:40 pm
President “christian” is the such a fucking faget.
September 14th, 2009 at 8:55 pm
It’s the voice of Osama bin Zombie yearning for bra-a-ins… bra-a-ins… bra-a-a-a-ins…!
September 14th, 2009 at 8:58 pm
PRISON PLANET MEMBERS VIDEO CHAT
DR DEAGLE EXPOSED!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZQ0UkogiGA
September 14th, 2009 at 9:12 pm
So, just curious, what happened to Charlie Sheen? Here we are, about one week later, and the truth movement is in the same shape as it was before “20mwtp.” I’m sorry Alex and Charlie, but that was a very pathetic attempt to further the movement. At the most, 20mwtp only got about 2 minutes of coverage on one T.V. program, and most people more than likely already forgot about it or don’t give a rat’s ass about it. How was that the best thing you have ever done? When are you going to do something that will progress the truth movement? Right now it is kind of at a stand still, you better pull something big out of your ass soon.
September 14th, 2009 at 9:34 pm
ok alex – i guess bin laden came out to steal the spot light from charlie sheen…ha ha ha….it’s all part of the 9/11 conspiracy…ha ha ha ha
September 14th, 2009 at 10:38 pm
OBL has gotten a lot of comments here, must still be an emotional hot button. Do you think there would be as many comments if a Saddam Hussein tape was released from when he was alive? It worked some researcher is going to come in and read these and analyse and use these comments for their next move. Don’t even respond and this thing will die on the vine
September 14th, 2009 at 10:57 pm
bin decomposin has been dead since 2002. AL-CIA-DA has to keep the OOGA BOOGA shit flowing to justify the illegal occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan, and now Pakistan.
soon, there’ll be a bloody, violent civil war and revolution, with lots of hangings in the U.S.S.A., followed by a power vacuum that might actually cause another right wing tyrant to take control of the country on the heels of the revolution.
but, one can hope, that at least 70 million well armed, non brain dead Amerikan’s will have enough sense to dirt nap the whole entire GOP party, and many of the dinocrats, wherever and whenever they may find them, and ensure that this does not happen that way.
time to get the hemp neckties ready. build the gallows. it’s time for a necktie party!
September 14th, 2009 at 11:34 pm
OSAMA BIN LADEN……The modern day BOOGEYMAN! Instead of using the boogeyman to scare children into going to bed, the modern day boogeyman is scaring citizens into OBEYING their governments every whim, much like drones will obey. Osama is the equivalent of bigfoot (the legend remains, yet there is no proof, but it makes for a good campfire tale) I think this is an age of embarrassment and stupidity for America.
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September 15th, 2009 at 1:41 am
In reference to a few links posted by other members concerning previous Al-Qaeda tapes I would like to state the following:
No Arab would trans-literate an Arabic word into English with “As” for a definite article. Why? Because in Arabic the word is spelled A L S A H A A B. When spoken, the “L” is silent and is not pronounced.
Thus, the “As-Sahab” spelling indicates that the logo creator either:
A) Speaks Arabic as a native language, but is illiterate (doubtful).
Or
B) The creator of that logo does not speak Arabic as a native language and is not familiar with the proper writing and spelling of Arabic text. In other words, he types it the way he hears it. It’s akin to writing “Olova Saddin” when you really mean “All of a sudden”).
As an aside, “Al-Sahaab” is Arabic for “The Clouds”. I am not aware of any symbolism in Arabic/Muslim literature or culture that would lend significance to that name within the context of Bin Laden’s or Al-Qaeda’s dogma.
However, the English expression “Dark clouds are gathering” is rather common and is full of ominous symbolism, the type of symbolism Al-Qaeda or a similar EEEEEEEVIL organization would use as they try to scare us.
Personally, I think whoever came up with the name for Al-Qaeda’s alleged propaganda/news arm is not an Arab nor a Muslim and did so knowing the target audience is English speaking.
Finally, I find it hard to believe that Al-Qaeda (based on what we have been lead to believe is its goal by the mass media) would include English text in its logo seeing as such a move would give legitimacy to the English language/speakers.
After all, that is the same “audience” Bin Laden views as “infidels”. So why show the “infidels” respect by including “English” in the logo?
Lady K of NYC Reply:
September 15th, 2009 at 8:20 am
I read somewhere that “Al Qaeda” means “The Toilet”. Is that true?
Eckhart Reply:
September 15th, 2009 at 1:22 pm
That depends. How low is your IQ?
September 15th, 2009 at 2:11 am
I am puzzled. The so called sites that Bin Laden posts his messages from are all registered and operated either in Canada or the USA, among which for example is Muslim.net which you can check the whois owners and operators easily and find out. The guys who are posting and sending messages around the world are in Qatar, a small Middle Eastern Country that has the largest military US base in The world. The TV station that receives tapes from Bin Laden without ever “being able to tracck where they came from, LOL” is Aljazeera (Qatar also). This TV station is dedicated to keep Bin Laden so called messages alive since he was invented. This little country Qatar exhibits power much more sizeable than its tiny size in the Middle East.
September 15th, 2009 at 2:13 am
http://911essentials.com says everyone knows Osama is dead just like the credibility of most of everyone working for the government.
The game is over and there will be arrests, trials and imprisonment for people committing crimes against We The People and the Constitution.
If you work for the government carrying out tyranny, then expect to be treated harshly and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
You might now want to think about another field of work … oh that’s right you work for the government because you can’t get a real job in the real world. Only one in the controlled, illegal and corrupt system that you think is going to go on forever.
“Things that can’t go on forever … don’t”.
Neotrix Reply:
September 15th, 2009 at 2:43 am
First off, I dont believe Osama was ever in charge of the “attacks”but merely a scapegoat for the government and Order to blame for this “terroistic” attack. They repeatedly use him as a constant reminder to the unwary American that terrorism lurks behind every door and every corner. I stick by my belief that 9/11 was an inside job that Bush was just a puppet for. how timely for Osama to stick out his head and say hey remember me!
I agree whole heartedly with bringing down the New World Order and the Bildeburg Group however the fact that considering they run the planet….there needs to be as said before a MASS exposure… We cannot take down just one at a time. They have the contacts, the infuluence, the money to weasel their way out of any charge we can bring against them.. I mean not to dishearten the cause. Only to remind that we need to expose all of them at one time. WATCH ALEX JONES NEW VIDEO OBAMA DECEPTION!!
Now another topic that i would like a reply from anyone ….A website known as Representative Press. I strongly dislike this website which just says exactly what the Group told the public. This site is an anti-anti-government site. A revolutionary idea but one that i feel needs to be eradicated or brought to the attention of my brothers. This site must be removed!! It puts doubt to us my friends. And curious new members of our cause my be disheartened.
Nosce te Ipsum
September 15th, 2009 at 2:44 am
last i hered he was very sick and dieing this guy looks pretty healthy to me lol
September 15th, 2009 at 3:32 am
After GulfWar I, While watching ABC News, Diane Sawyer popped up to announce an interview with “the man who would be the most dangerous man to America”. That made me pay attention. She had the interview that I can’t find a trace of any more with Osama Bin Laden in his cave. He looked retarded, and he announced that he was going to destroy America (1991 or 1992, can’t remember the exact date). I told my wife then that they were preparing this bastard for a big thing.
This interview took place. He was introduced as the man who would be the most dangerous to America, back then. Is it possible to find that interview? Obviously Internet was not in public use that much back then, this is before Internet took that big jump in the public arena.
September 15th, 2009 at 3:42 am
The “boogie man” cave people from the movie BABE IN TOYLAND are coming to get us, RUUUNNNNNN!!!!
September 15th, 2009 at 3:55 am
Sitting in a cave in Afghanistan he was able to plot an operation that fooled the CIA, FBI, US Airforce, Civilan Airports, Security defenses around the US, US embassies abroad, and so on to bring about not only 4 simultaneous attacks by little men who can’t even stand a fist, but with their little Cessna piloting training and box cutters they were able to manoeuver large Boeing planes as if they were extremely professional piolts, and navigate them exactly where they wanted to hit (Unbelievable, isn’t it?), but also to bring down America as this so called Bin Laden said in 1992. This retarded man has changed the ordinary life of Americans, and in less than 20 years, he seems to have accomplished what he presumably said from his cave in 1992, the destruction of America. America has spend trillions “fighting” this retarded man, and is on its way to bankruptcy.
September 15th, 2009 at 4:12 am
I can’t get on Infowars anymore , I get this ” Apture ” mutimedia plugging B.S. ?!?
P.S. Recommended by the New-York Times and Reuters !!!
September 15th, 2009 at 4:17 am
Puzzled, are you sure he’s not working for them hence “avoiding them”? Even if he’s not this man is old and dying, this means that his successor with be youthful and is yearning to prove himself. Bin Laden isn’t bringing anything down by himself. It takes alot of manpower to bring down a planet.
September 15th, 2009 at 4:18 am
And whose to say the trillions spent on finding him aren’t put into other pockets or used to finance this bogus war.
September 15th, 2009 at 4:58 am
No need to unravel the lies that mainstream media and the utterly messed up CIA spins.
Just assume that everything’s a lie until you research it. That will save on your electrical bills and maybe Al Gore will stop global warming by keeping his yap shut.
September 15th, 2009 at 6:46 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....rofilepage
September 15th, 2009 at 6:49 am
According to Benizir Bhutto Bin Laden was murdered by Omar Sheik, the same ISI agent who wired $100,000 to Atta just before 911 at the request of the Mosaad/CIA. The fact that she had her head blown off right after revealing the truth about ole “Timmy Osmond” lends some creedance to her story don’t you think?
September 15th, 2009 at 6:53 am
Al Gore, whats his history? At the time i was quite young,
I liked him a lot more than Bush.
Would he have become a decent president or would Builder Berg group had his ways with him?
In my eyes there isn’t democracy in one single country.
Just more end less dictating.
The elector system is kind of bad tho. Herd from numerous sources that Al Gore got more votes
however due to the elector system he lost the election.
Is this true?
Billo Reply:
September 15th, 2009 at 8:03 am
Yes
September 15th, 2009 at 6:54 am
lol
time to bring out the boogeyman for his yearly appearance!
the real guy is dead. –> http://whatreallyhappened.com/....._dead.html
September 15th, 2009 at 6:59 am
No no, let me tell you this: All Islamic so called Jihadists are stupid pawns that believe anything in the name of Islam. They can be used of course, and the Saudi kingdom and Qatar spend a lot of money to spread their ignorance among the Islamic peoples. They want the Muslims to believe that their is a Jihad against the West. Look at the newest message; he or whoever is using his name or using him(The CIA for sure) is asserting that 911 was done by him, and not an inside job. He is assuring the Stupid muslim peoples that it is him that did 911, as well as telling the American peoples that he did 911 not the US secret government.
September 15th, 2009 at 7:01 am
So………………, they are bringing down the US in his name (and he won). He was a pawn that was used and is still being used, and the goal is to bring down the US.
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September 15th, 2009 at 8:13 am
Plus they end up owning our country and our citizens become defacto indentured survants. It’s like a crazy fiction novel where the bad guys win. The novel wouldn’t even sell well because it’s a very un-satisfying tale. Fiction turned into facts we have to live with.
September 15th, 2009 at 8:24 am
Osama is dead. He was undergoing Dialysis prior to Sept. 11, 2001. Do you think they can do that in a cave? I think not.
September 15th, 2009 at 9:53 am
What a relief!! I was so worried and started to miss the man. He’s been dead for a long time now, never find him never will. They (and we know who they are) had to bring this tape out to encourage the American people for support of the war in Afghanistan. Without the thought of Bin Laden still being out there, Americans would demand a pullout of the sandtrap.
The other day on the nightly news I saw a picture of the guy who supposedly masterminded the 9/11 attack (the one they want us to hate). I don’t know how to spell his name but you’ll get the jist of it, Kalid Shake Muhammad. It was two photos, one where he was captured all shaved face and sleepy eyed. The other was one where he was all bearded up and towel on the head. Now that photo looked exactly like Bin Laden.
Our government had to make up an “Arch Nemisis” for George W. In order to go over to Iraq, we had to get attacked with mass casualties. Even though supposedly the Afghans took responsibility, the white house pointed fingers at Hussein. We all know how that ended up.
The only reason we went to Afghanistan was to secure the Poppy Plantations and make sure Heroin and other drugs make their way to our shores.
September 16th, 2009 at 5:34 am
After the media showed fake planes melting into the WTC Towers on 9/11, you’d have to be an idiot to believe anything the news, err, propaganda ministry says anymore.
See it and belive it…
http://tinyurl.com/lervfx
September 16th, 2009 at 7:36 am
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September 16th, 2009 at 10:48 am
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September 16th, 2009 at 3:35 pm
The comments to an article about Osama’s tape in the Independent are worth viewing (you might wish to scroll over the article though).
http://www.independent.co.uk/n.....87342.html
September 22nd, 2009 at 5:58 pm
stupid americans will believe everything hah.