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C.I.A. Outlines Pakistan Links With Militants
MARK MAZZETTI and ERIC SCHMITT
NY Times
Wednesday, July 30, 2008
Flashback: Intimate links between ISI, CIA, Al Qaeda exposed
A top Central Intelligence Agency official traveled secretly to Islamabad this month to confront Pakistan’s most senior officials with new information about ties between the country’s powerful spy service and militants operating in Pakistan’s tribal areas, according to American military and intelligence officials.
The C.I.A. emissary presented evidence showing that members of the spy service had deepened their ties with some militant groups that were responsible for a surge of violence in Afghanistan, possibly including the suicide bombing this month of the Indian Embassy in Kabul, the officials said.
The decision to confront Pakistan with what the officials described as a new C.I.A. assessment of the spy service’s activities seemed to be the bluntest American warning to Pakistan since shortly after the Sept. 11 attacks about the ties between the spy service and Islamic militants.
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The C.I.A. assessment specifically points to links between members of the spy service, the Directorate for Inter-Services Intelligence, or ISI, and the militant network led by Maulavi Jalaluddin Haqqani, which American officials believe maintains close ties to senior figures of Al Qaeda in Pakistan’s tribal areas.
The C.I.A. has depended heavily on the ISI for information about militants in Pakistan, despite longstanding concerns about divided loyalties within the Pakistani spy service, which had close relations with the Taliban in Afghanistan before the Sept. 11 attacks.
That ISI officers have maintained important ties to anti-American militants has been the subject of previous reports in The New York Times. But the C.I.A. and the Bush administration have generally sought to avoid criticism of Pakistan, which they regard as a crucial ally in the fight against terrorism.
The visit to Pakistan by the C.I.A. official, Stephen R. Kappes, the agency’s deputy director, was described by several American military and intelligence officials in interviews in recent days. Some of those who were interviewed made clear that they welcomed the decision by the C.I.A. to take a harder line toward the ISI’s dealings with militant groups.
Pakistan’s prime minister, Yousaf Raza Gilani, is currently in Washington meeting with Bush administration officials. A White House spokesman, Gordon D. Johndroe, would not say whether President Bush had raised the issue during his meeting on Monday with Mr. Gilani. In an interview broadcast Tuesday on the PBS program “The NewsHour with Jim Lehrer,” Mr. Gilani said he rejected as “not believable” any assertions of ISI’s links to the militants. “We would not allow that,” he said.
The Haqqani network and other militants operating in the tribal areas along the Afghan border are said by American intelligence officials to be responsible for increasingly deadly and complex attacks inside Afghanistan, and to have helped Al Qaeda establish a safe haven in the tribal areas.
Lt. Gen. Martin E. Dempsey, the acting commander of American forces in Southwest Asia, made an unannounced visit to the tribal areas on Monday, a further reflection of American concern.
The ISI has for decades maintained contacts with various militant groups in the tribal areas and elsewhere, both for gathering intelligence and as proxies to exert influence on neighboring India and Afghanistan. It is unclear whether the C.I.A. officials have concluded that contacts between the ISI and militant groups are blessed at the highest levels of Pakistan’s spy service and military, or are carried out by rogue elements of Pakistan’s security apparatus.
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July 30th, 2008 at 5:13 am
Pakistanis cannot do it,
only CIA can
July 30th, 2008 at 6:44 am
I already wrote an article myself about just this. Petraeus and the Iraqi ambassador to the US said the war on Al-Qaeda in Iraq is actually being won. You would naturally go….uh, what? But I already said a month and a half ago that Afghanistan and Pakistan would become the new fronts in the struggle for Middle East conquest. If you look at the video still a little closely, you will see an unmistakable eye in the triangle. This suggests an NWO hand in this (yeah obvious I know) and it’ll come out that the video of that Maulavi guy was created by some security company or CIA or whatever. If you want to get a general idea of what will happen in Pakistan and Afghanistan next, then read this.
http://warofillusions.wordpres.....d-chapter/
July 30th, 2008 at 7:29 am
They should have just talked to Sibel Edwards about what she knows and saved the tax payer the $25,000 junket trip
July 30th, 2008 at 7:47 am
think about this. in order to have a legal nuke shooting match, you must first piss of a country with nukes. not to mention India just took a pretty hard hit and is looking to get some payback. (they have nukes also) ponder that for awhile and see how it unfolds.
July 30th, 2008 at 7:53 am
Here’s the thing about the CIA.
Q. Why should it be trusted?
A. It shouldn’t
It, and all of its intel, should be regarded subjectively. Like one regards a fictional novel rather than as objective fact.
Why?
Because despite checks and balances, and congressional oversight, within the organization itself, from its very inception, you have on the one hand individuals devoted to the constitution and individuals who seek to undermine it.
Without getting into detail, the result of this internal conflict is that the intel it provides is always going to be laced with uncertainty. This is an inherent feature rather than a temporary ailment. Therefore, such info should generate discussion certainly, but it should never be the BASIS for going to war or making other significant state decisions.
So go ahead and create Intel Agencies, gather information. But always regard them and the intel they provide with skepticism and a sense of humor. Don’t allow them to
assume a role of legitimacy that is not in accord with their very DNA. Don’t be compelled to act on the information they provide. Keep such agencies at the service of society, rather than allowing them to become the masters.
When the Intel agencies are allowed to assume a master role, the lunatics have taken over the assylum.
July 30th, 2008 at 7:59 am
Well, well. Isn’t all to obvious that the smoke and mirrors are finally coming home to burn and cut the hands that thought they could manipulate them. Seems the “boys” are eating their hubris just a few short years after paying the ISI for “terrorist services rendered”. Could it be actually that the level of compartmentalization has turned into an object of curtain unveiling for the rest of the world. No matter, as the American “Intelligence” services have been compromised on orders from above to perform dismally, thus requiring a “military option”. Whilst our attentions are diverted to Israel and Iran, perhaps the next piece in the “bunker edition” of RISK that the Honorable Mr. Cheney is playing is that of Pakistan which holds definite short term gains against the Russians that cannot be obtained economically through Persia at this time. The extended saber-rattling of the Israelis will not deter the combined forces of Iran, who can easily amass a significant response with the aid of Syria and Hamas, who clearly won the last conflict. While on the other hand, Pakistan could provide an easy “media win” with a few air strikes and properly-placed “currency incentives” to the political understudies who, no doubt have already been treated to some Las Vegas “conferences” with the caretakers from Virginia. But the entire wicked circle continues. Makes you wonder just WHAT these fellows REALLY get out of it?
July 30th, 2008 at 9:03 am
You do know that the USA invaded Afghanistan and Iraq hand-in-hand with Iran? Please, do not tell me you are so stupid that you do not know Iran was America’s ally and partner in these invasions.
Therefore, obviously, there are two sides to the Afghanistan War, Pakistan and Iran. If the USA is on Iran’s side (which this time is most certainly the case), then, by definition, it is against Pakistan.
Remember how the jewish soviets of the USSR invaded Poland hand-in-hand with the nazis, starting a little thing we now call WW2. Oh, that’s right, you don’t remember this, because history teaching afterwards attempts to whitewash certain facts.
What you masters do is always infinitely more devious and less straightforward than the stories they give you in you mainstream media. For them, there is no black and white, just successful uses of power, and unsuccessful. Anything that gets the job done is right in their eyes. Only failure is ever defined as wrong.
Blather, like the propaganda in the article above, is simple meant to make the dumber sheeple that feel smarter than the rest because they read ‘The Guardian’ or the NYT, active loudmouths. These loudmouths then explain to the other sheeple why we so need to be at war with ‘Eurasia’ (or ‘Eastasia’, depending on the month of the year).
The way to fight the monsters is to NEVER EVER get involved with the bulls**t minutiae that exists in the mainstream media to ensnare the time and thoughts of the unwary, self-defined, ’smarter’ Human. How were the nazis best dealt with? Daily research every little thing they did, and spend hours arguing with them? Or recognise that they were evil is design, purpose, and execution, and sweep them out of power?
Unless you are researching the daily variations and strategies in black propaganda programs disseminated by psy-op organisations like ‘The Guardian’ and NYT, you actually make yourselves stupider reading such publications. You become like a person who is pretty damned certain that the world is round, but has to argue daily with people that insist that it is flat. From that perspective, you can consider the NYT as one massive TROLL (in the internet meaning of that word).
July 30th, 2008 at 9:40 am
Not only should the CIA not be trusted, but typically the opposite is true of their publicly relayed intention(s).
Let’s face it, where does the CIA obtain its directive? They don’t work for us (of course), and they don’t work for the politicians (sell out pawn bitches).
This is pure CFR mandate. This is about the “globalization” of the middle east.
Unfortunately, I know “educated” individuals who don’t even realize it, but effectively claim that if it wasn’t in the New York Times or Washington Post or on CNN, it didn’t occur and or isn’t newsworthy. Whereas speaking to these people is better than speaking to a Christian Republican W supporter, it isn’t better by much. And of course these “educated” people have graduated from Illuminati schools. All this tells you is that there is a consistant level of brainwashing that we must all overcome. But alas, most don’t wish, for some reason or another, to deprogram themselves.
Al Qaeda is a CIA organization (funded and trained CIA faction of the Mujahideen). And this group only exists in Iraq because of the CIA.
There are some good comments here already. It’s nice to see.
Yes, this is all smoke and mirrors. Yes, the history we’re taught is pathetic and filled with half truths, propaganda, and outright lies. I really do hate this place and I can’t wait to get the hell out of this fictitious, house of cards malignant planet. I surely hope we wipe ourselves out, because I can’t imagine the universe being infected by the organisms who control this place. These Illuminati bloodlines are the worst forms of life that have ever existed. May they wallow in their own filth and despair prior to amazingly painful deaths.
July 30th, 2008 at 12:41 pm
WHO THE HELL GAVE THE CIA THE POWER TO GO TO ANOTHER COUNTRY AND DEMAND ANSWERS.
TELL THEM TO KICK ROCKS AND SLAM THE DOOR ON THEM.
EVERYTHING BAD THAT HAS HAPPENED TO ANY COUNTRY IN THE LAST 50 YRS HAS BEEN FROM THE RESULT OF THE CIA’S ACTIONS.
THE CIA ARE THE TERRORIST.
July 30th, 2008 at 1:19 pm
“Pakistan’s tribal areas…” in country of 180,000,000?
It’s OK to bomb tribal areas?
July 31st, 2008 at 3:41 am
Vein and Chuck are right.
The Pakistani ISI, which actually DOES fund Terrorists, gets its money from the USA and the CIA. Where else do you think the $$ billions that the USA gives Musharraf goes?
The recent Jaipur and Ahmedabad bombings and the assassination of Benazir Bhutto were CIA/ISI operations. The USA and the CIA WANT to destabilize the Middle East.