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Civilian Genocide, Dead Americans Cost Of U.S.-Russia Proxy War
Media portrays US/NATO client state Georgia as victim despite war crimes provocation to launch conflict
Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet
Monday, August 11, 2008
The truth behind who is primarily responsible for the bloodshed unfolding in South Ossetia and surrounding areas has been buried by the western corporate media. Georgian forces, with a green light from NATO and the support of American and Ukrainian mercenaries, launched a brutal attack targeting civilians and Russian peacekeepers timed to coincide with the opening of the Beijing Olympics so as to temporarily deflect attention before the inevitable Russian response, by which time the global media machine kicked into high gear to smear Russia as the villains of the entire piece.
To accept such a characterization is not parroting Russian military propaganda, it is a reflection of the stone cold fact that Georgia was responsible for the first provocation - which itself amounted to a war crime - that launched the conflict.
That is not to hide from the fact that Russia’s unrelenting response continues to slaughter untold numbers of innocent people.
The initial Georgian bombardment of the provincial capital Tskhinvali was primarily directed to achieve maximum civilian casualties, with residential areas, hospitals and the university being targeted, leading to at least 1500 civilian deaths according to both western and Russian sources.
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“The air and artillery bombardment left the provincial capital without water, food, electricity and gas. Horrified civilians crawled out of the basements into the streets as fighting eased, looking for supplies,” reported the Associated Press.
Reports of the initial carnage metered out by Georgian forces and the slaughter of Russian peacekeepers are difficult to find, because they have already been buried under the deluge of condemnation about Russia’s heavy-handed response.
American citizen and resident of South Ossetia Joe Mestas described the war crimes he witnessed being carried out by Georgian forces, back by U.S. support, against innocent civilians.
Watch the clip.
“I thought that since U.S. is supporting Georgia there would be some control over the situation in South Ossetia and that there would be a peaceful solution to the conflict. But what is happening there now it’s not just war, but war crimes. George Bush and [Georgian president] Mikhail Saakashvili should answer to the crimes that are being committed – the killing of innocent people, running over by tanks of children and women, throwing grenades into cellars where people are hiding,” Mestas said.
“The war is when military fight against military. But the Georgian army is killing innocent civilians. This is genocide,” he added.
A prime example of media bias in shielding Georgia from responsibility for the carnage is the fact that news outlets like the BBC continue to report that 1500 civilians have been killed in Georgia, with the obvious inference being that these are victims of the Russian onslaught. But these victims were not killed in Georgia, they were killed in Ossetia - by Georgian forces.
As the Chimes of Freedom Blog elaborates, “While the Ossetians claimed over 1000 dead the BBC neither reported this or any newsreel coming out of Ossetia showing the destruction caused by the Georgian shelling of the breakaway republic. All we are getting is one-sided reports of the destruction being caused by the Russians.”
“The BBC is giving carte blanche to the Georgian point-of-view to be aired on its services while nothing whatsoever is being heard from the Ossetian side. The BBC’s repetitive playing of a statement by George Bush, given several days ago, without balancing these against statements from the Russian side indicates where the BBC is coming from.”
Other mainstream news outlets are either aping the portrayal of Georgia, which enjoys the support of the American empire and NATO, as a poor isolated little country under brutal assault by the big bully Russia, or simply ignoring events altogether and obsessing about John Edwards’ extramarital affair.
In reality, Georgia is being used as a proxy client state through which the U.S. and NATO are advancing their geopolitical motives - to the cost of Ossetian, Georgian and Russian civilians alike caught in the middle of the carnage.
As Professor Michel Chossudovsky explains, “Georgia is an outpost of US and NATO forces, on the immediate border of the Russian Federation and within proximity of the Middle East Central Asian war theater. South Ossetia is also at the crossroads of strategic oil and gas pipeline routes.”
“Georgia does not act militarily without the assent of Washington. The Georgian head of State is a US proxy and Georgia is a de facto US protectorate.”
The price of the U.S. and NATO’s latest proxy war is already being paid with the deaths of thousands of innocent civilians - along with American mercenaries supporting Georgian forces.
According to the president of South Ossetia, Eduard Kokoity, the bodies of black men were found at the site of one battle near a school.
Russian envoy Dmitry Medoyev indicated the men may have been American mercenaries.
“In yesterday’s attack, the advancing tanks were supposedly crewed by Ukrainians. Two unidentified bodies found today are said to have black skin. Possibly they are Americans but we can’t say for sure yet. We will be able to publish the official conclusions after carrying out special tests,” Medoyev said.
Last month, the United States, Georgia, Azerbaijan, Armenia, and Ukraine conducted Immediate Response 2008, a joint training exercise said to be in “spirit of the NATO Partnership for Peace program,” according to Blackanthem Military News. Immediate Response 2008 was held at the Vaziani Military Base in Georgia.
In another report, a woman interviewed by Russia Today in Tskhinvali, South Ossetia, talked about the presence of Georgian troops with American insignias. “There are lots of bodies over there, a lot of people have been killed, mostly Ossetians, but also Georgians, they had American emblems on their forearms and they were in black uniforms,” she said.
Black uniforms are a trademark of Blackwater and DynCorp mercenaries (see Chris Hedges, America’s Holy Warriors). DynCorp’s presence in Eastern Europe is well documented, particularly in occupied Bosnia where it engaged in sex-trafficking and prostitution.
In a Friday press conference, Chairman of Russia’s State Duma Security Committee Vladimir Vasilyev said without U.S. aid, Tbilisi would have been unable to start military operation in South Ossetia. “The further the situation unfolds, the more the world will understand that Georgia would never be able to do all this without America,” said Vasilyev. “In essence, the Americans have prepared the force, which destroys everything in South Ossetia, attacks civilians and hospitals.”
It is entirely feasible the U.S. has “prepared the force” with mercenaries as well.
Michel Chossudovsky explores the reasoning behind Georgia’s act of provocation that launched the conflict.
US-NATO military and intelligence planners invariably examine various “scenarios” of a proposed military operation– i.e. in this case, a limited Georgian attack largely directed against civilian targets, with a view to inflicting civilian casualties.
The examination of scenarios is a routine practice. With limited military capabilities, a Georgian victory and occupation of Tskhinvali, was an impossibility from the outset. And this was known and understood to US-NATO military planners.
A humanitarian disaster rather than a military victory was an integral part of the scenario. The objective was to destroy the provincial capital, while also inflicting a significant loss of human life.
If the objective were to restore Georgian political control over the provincial government, the operation would have been undertaken in a very different fashion, with Special Forces occupying key public buildings, communications networks and provincial institutions, rather than waging an all out bombing raid on residential areas, hospitals, not to mention Tskhinvali’s University.
The Russian response was entirely predictable.
Georgia was “encouraged” by NATO and the US. Both Washington and NATO headquarters in Brussels were acutely aware of what would happen in the case of a Russian counterattack.
The question is: was this a deliberate provocation intended to trigger a Russian military response and suck the Russians into a broader military confrontation with Georgia (and allied forces) which could potentially escalate into an all out war?
With rhetoric from figures like President Bush and Condoleezza Rice becoming increasingly heated towards Russia, the potential for an escalation in tensions is readily apparent.
Only the most naive would believe that the U.S. missile defense shield is anything other than a bulwark against Russian military expansion, and Russia’s response in resuming bomber patrols across the Atlantic sends a clear message.
Knowing that Americans remain completely unconvinced about the necessity of attacking Iran, have the Neo-Cons in control of the White House lit the blue touch paper for a wider war that could swing the U.S. election in favor of pro-war candidate John McCain?
Or is this merely payback for Russia lending their expertise in building Iranian nuclear reactors?
The motives will become clear in due course but what’s certain is that innocent lives will continue to be lost as the American empire lurches into its next theatre of conflict and the Neo-Cons play a deadly game that could have devastating wider consequences.
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- Russia and Georgia on the brink of war as four planes are shot down and 15 civilians killed in South Ossetia fighting
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- Georgia says Russia deploying troops in South Ossetia
- Russia could not let Georgia get away with S. Ossetia - Medvedev
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- Russia does not want “bad relations” with U.S. - Russian FM Lavrov
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August 11th, 2008 at 4:17 am
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1010224.html
The band of ZIONIST troublemakers and the lure of loot(USD$)
2 Israeli firms say they left Georgia before fighting
By Amos Harel
Two Israeli security companies, Defensive Shield and Global CST, announced yesterday that they had completed their projects in Georgia before fighting between that country and Russia broke out on Friday. The two are among several Israeli companies advising Georgia on security matters, training its army and occasionally supplying it with weapons.
Defensive Shield, owned by Brig. Gen. (res.) Gal Hirsch, said all its employees, including its subcontractors, are no longer in Georgia. It said it completed the work it had been contracted to do, and that all its contracts with Georgia had been approved by Israel’s Defense Ministry. Security systems services company Global CST, managed by Maj. Gen. (res.) Israel Ziv, said it finished its work in Georgia at the end of July.
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Russia expanded its bombing blitz against neighboring Georgia yesterday, targeting the country’s capital for the first time, while Georgian troops pulled out of the breakaway province of South Ossetia, as Russia demanded, the Associated Press reported.
Georgia launched a major offensive to regain control over South Ossetia overnight Friday, and some 1,500 people have reportedly been killed there since then, with the death toll rising. South Ossetia split from Georgia in the early 1990s and has since built up ties with Moscow.
A retired senior Israeli officer who recently trained troops in Georgia said yesterday he was surprised that the Georgians faced off against Russia, since they have a much smaller army.
“They got into an adventure that I wouldn’t have chosen to get into, based on the level of professionalism I saw in my visits to the Georgian army,” the officer said. “Who knows where this will end.”
“This is an army that was in the process of disintegrating over 15 or 16 years,” the officer added. “This process required reconstruction, and that’s where the Israelis entered the picture, along with companies from other countries. But everything was very, very basic. We dealt mainly with basic training for the units. It will take a long time until the military forces there will advance to a high professional level. The Georgian army cannot under any circumstances be a serious rival to the Russians at present.”
The officer also stressed the difference in military might: “Georgia is a small country, with barely 4.5 million people,” he said. “They have a small army - to be honest, not much different from that of a Third World country.”
The Georgians began reorganizing their army in 2002, with American assistance. Since the collapse of the Soviet Union in the early 1990s, the Georgian army has primarily been comprised of remnants of Red Army units.
August 11th, 2008 at 4:45 am
Great article Paul!
I’m having trouble concentrating on anything else right now.
This could be potentially catasrophic on a large scale!
Too bad half the people I work with didn’t know anything about it before I told them this morning, says it all really.
Mike
London
August 11th, 2008 at 5:42 am
my butt itches
August 11th, 2008 at 5:49 am
Maybe they will nuke Moscow and then say “Moscow didn`t get nuked you conspiracy theorist!”
August 11th, 2008 at 5:53 am
“Future World Order” - 2:18
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DfaUfJNGoE
August 11th, 2008 at 5:54 am
Good article Paul, with the exception of your use of the term Russian “Peacekeepers.” That is Orwellian doublespeak terminology.
There is no such thing as a Russian, American, or the most common, United Nations “peacekeeper.” The proper term is stormtrooper.
August 11th, 2008 at 5:59 am
Thanks for this good article, Paul Watson!
August 11th, 2008 at 6:12 am
Excellent reporting Paul Watson!!!
You have routed out: The story behind AND within the story
August 11th, 2008 at 6:19 am
Great article Paul Watson!!!
You have routed out: The story behind AND within the story
August 11th, 2008 at 6:22 am
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/t.....468106.ece
Paris Hilton mocks McCain in spoof ad
August 11th, 2008 at 6:25 am
Quite possibly the most interesting read I’ve had this morning. It’s clearly a work of fiction, and purely for entertainment purposes, seeing that none of your sources are valid and your purported connections to the United States are assumptive at best.
It worries me that you assert these accusations as truth. I hope you realize that Americans are smarted than falling for these falsehoods…
August 11th, 2008 at 6:26 am
Quite possibly the most interesting read I’ve had this morning. It’s clearly a work of fiction, and purely for entertainment purposes, seeing that none of your sources are valid and your purported connections to the United States are assumptive at best.
It worries me that you assert these accusations as truth. I hope you realize that Americans are smarted than falling for these falsehoods…
August 11th, 2008 at 6:44 am
Such a war shows why we need a european union We need to be united so we can stop the USA and Russia playing our nations as pawns in their own geopolitical battle.
We do not want tour continent to be a battle ground for big powers the only way to avoid that is for us to unite. To prevent internal and external enemies harming us.
August 11th, 2008 at 6:46 am
I’am deepest disappointed, but the truth is, that only the Russian empire has committed many genosides in the area of the former Sovjetunion, started with the former republic Novhorod-Velykyy. Alex Jones abuses here knowingly the concept Genoside.
August 11th, 2008 at 6:52 am
Yeah enjoy your European Union you moron
August 11th, 2008 at 7:25 am
arg4gh
Thanks a lot
As an Ukrainian, I prefer a free Ukraine. Actually, also without any union. But I’m not a dictator…
August 11th, 2008 at 7:26 am
It is ironic that the only way to world peace is through war. A war of the world against israel. Destroy israel!
August 11th, 2008 at 7:35 am
I understand your interest in reporting the fullness of the story…but the information provided here is weak. the pics and film is great but I can’t understand it the way you have it layed out. keep up the truth seeking…
August 11th, 2008 at 7:51 am
Personally, I’m waiting for the REAL and TRUE story to come out in the New York Times, Washington Post, and on CNN.
So what do we really know here? We know that some people, mostly lower class individuals and a few soldiers, are being displaced, injured and killed. By whom and why seems to not be as clear. It’s certainly clear that Georgia has no air force, so any aerial bombing is being conducted by the Russians.
Last night while watching the Olympics, W (the misleader) was on for a few minutes, acting only as stupid as he knows how to act, and Bob Costas asked him about the Georgia/Russia conflict. W acted (in both words, tonality and body language) like he was hiding something. It left me with the feeling that this entire conflict is orchestrated and that we have no idea what the truth is here.
August 11th, 2008 at 7:52 am
The simplicity of how they work? Tell me, if it’s so simple, and so criminal, why is it tolerated and allowed to work? The only thing that is simple to see here is that Alex Jones and his cohorts plan to press you with fear into watching his movies and downloading from his site.
These ideas of yours having nothing to do with my being braindead, and everything to do with your inability to understand simple, human logic.
August 11th, 2008 at 7:53 am
I bet this thing is not over very quickly, at least the tension..
On it’s own, Georgia’s actions on this scale make no sense..bad vibes,peeps.
But..nations/countries are an illusion any way. It’s all run by the money-world. And the russians are just as the same as US, the elite is the elite…jukos, gazprom, lukoil..what have you.. the companies will always make more money, and with wars they make alot.
dirty european socialist:
You can shove the EU! It’s all ready just the same as the US,just not as out of control.
Nothing good came out with the EU, it’s just costing tax payers more money, and gathering (..or trying) the nations under the same book of law that is a laugh. The only people profiting is the elite and the crime world..and the later is owned by the former.
Hope they brake up the EU.
August 11th, 2008 at 8:01 am
I’m so damn sick of this shit, we need to get rid of bush and the fuckin NeoCons have our military come home and start cleaning house in Washington. It wasn’t Russia that attacked Georgia!!
It was Georgia backed by American SOP and black water that started this shit.We should March emedeatly on Washington.
It’s the rockefellers and the rothschilds behind this…remember they wont to kill 80% of us we really need to stand the hell up!!
August 11th, 2008 at 8:04 am
Here’s an interesting article, which supports Paul Watson’s reporting:
http://en.rian.ru/world/20080811/115953426.html
It’s from Russian Media, but you need to decide who is telling the truth about what is happening in South Ossetia
August 11th, 2008 at 8:23 am
Dont accept what is going on-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1V5iCUBEUx4
GS
August 11th, 2008 at 8:27 am
Giant Shadow’s—That band sucked very badly.
Now do you have something to add to the conversation???
August 11th, 2008 at 8:37 am
There is some serious anti american sentiment here. Why don’t you people be a little more cautious of the info coming out of Moscow.
Nikki, you’re right this article is weak. Stop trying to propagandize americans against there own country. People don’t forget that we are here to help incourage open debate, and remember that just because people lied about our foriegn policy, doesn’t mean that the U.S. is evil or should be destroyed. Evil triumphs when good men do nothing. So be the change you want to see. Get active get involved, don’t judge from your computer screen.
August 11th, 2008 at 9:04 am
“These ideas of yours having nothing to do with my being braindead, and everything to do with your inability to understand simple, human logic.”
Georgia attacking a small republic such as South Ossetia comiting war crime, with the benediction and may be even the help of the united state and the EU just because Georgia is now a member of Nato and wondering why people are outraged, is to be ever a troll or a brain dead.
Are you working for black water or the roten part of the CIA at the service of the neocons we have to purge?
Just wondering.
August 11th, 2008 at 9:06 am
If any of you watch the news in California, USA, there was recently an incident at the San Francisco Zoo. 3 guys were shooting rocks from a sling-shot at a tiger. So, the tiger jumped over the barrier, killed one and the other two escaped.
Funnily enough, that is exactly what America is doing right now, it’s pocking at the tiger, Russia, in order to make it mad. The only problem is that that tiger will jump over the barrier, and he will kill one, probably Saakashvili, and the other two, let’s say NATO, will run away, again.
The middle east has always been a heat zone, but if you haven’t noticed, in any conflict in the world, “USA” always somehow blinks through.
Why does America not just concentrate on the fact that we are about to go into a Second Great Depression?!?!?!?!
August 11th, 2008 at 9:08 am
Also, why is it okay for the US to completely invade Iraq, but Russia is attacked then it is a war crime for it to defend itself???
August 11th, 2008 at 9:14 am
“There is some serious anti american sentiment here”
It does not matter if we leave in USA, Russia, Georgia or Ossetia we are all the victims of our extremists.
So we have to arrest all these scourges and parasites, the GW Bush, the Puttin, the Mikhail Saakashvili and others similar craps and slam them in prisons togethers where the can kill each others at will so that the rest of us can leave in peace.
We know what we have to do. This is simple really.
August 11th, 2008 at 9:17 am
A great danger is upon us. the ashkenazi jews have interbred with reptilians, even now they work to bring the antichrist through the 8 spoke star gate! We are living in a giant sigil follow the rabbit down the hole, take the red pill, you dont know even half of the truth! watch the entire series the reptilians are making their move!
http://hashemsfilms.com/index2.....&cid=1
August 11th, 2008 at 9:34 am
Could this be the plan?
Georgia, which wants to join Nato and has the BTC pipeline south of South Ossetia, provokes the violence in South Ossetia to draw the Russians into a conflict, which, once settled, may actually help Georgia join NATO and have NATO peacekeeping troops stationed in South Ossetia?
This would establish a bulwark between Russia’s North Ossetia and Georgia proper, where the BTC pipeline is actually situated.
If this is what is happening, it would be another classic example of the Hegellain Dialectic at work
August 11th, 2008 at 9:35 am
Gee…
What “Marching Orders” did Condi give Georgian President Saakashvili in Tbilsi, during her visit to Georgia just one month ago, on 10 July 2008?
Honestly!?!…
It’s about time for a missile defense system to be placed around he Worlds International Banking Vampires and Oil Cartels!
Innocent children, women, and men are destroyed daily.
August 11th, 2008 at 9:54 am
BREAKING: GEORGIA ASKS CHINA FOR HELP AGAINST RUSSIA
Zbig’s plot to pit the Chinese against the Russians thickens. I hope it fails miserably.
http://www.voanews.com/english.....-voa32.cfm
August 11th, 2008 at 10:06 am
I just hope the rightious prevail, but most likely it will just be more humans, either who are good or bad or both. Like always..still not able to get along. and then the unprovokers get the death caught between money grabbing defenders of indoctrtinated fascisms and false hatreds in a blob of misunderstanding of truth.
August 11th, 2008 at 10:16 am
Once again the media has only given half of the story. And, once again, the US is backing the country that is killing innocent people.
When I first heard the story I thought, “That damn Russia! Leaves those people alone.” Then I make a point to find out what is really going on and the history of it and I learn that Russia is actually trying to protect the Ossetians. It’s absolutely ludacris.
The people that gobble up whatever the media tells them will no doubt look at Russia as the bad guys in this. It just irks me so much!!
Someone made the connection that Condi Rice just visited Georgia last month. Obviously not a coincidence!
August 11th, 2008 at 10:30 am
Underground reports hold that Georgian capital has fallen.
August 11th, 2008 at 11:07 am
Interesting report but horrible quoting on the American witness Mestas. Very shoddy work. It’s that sort of mis-representation of details which leads to mistrust, debunking and a lack of confidence in the work being done here.
August 11th, 2008 at 11:35 am
The United States of American..DOES not torture…G.W. Bush
August 11th, 2008 at 11:45 am
Comet Holmes left astronomers speechless when it brightened by a factor of one million times. This astounding event was unprecedented in the annals of cometary astronomy.
For those of you who may be curious about why the MSM censored Comet Holmes click on signs at;
http://www.thetruthportal.com
August 11th, 2008 at 12:09 pm
http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/index.php?
August 11th, 2008 at 1:55 pm
Georgia may have been the initial aggressors, but Russia was also immediately ready to respond, suggesting a deeper level of intent.
Russia may be seeking a window of opportunity to redefine the region. Perhaps Russia intends to expand it’s territory, declaring the Caucasus as part of its sphere of influence.
What message is Russia sending the West?
Russia has a strong economy and no national debt. The bottom line is that they hold a trump card over Americans — Iran. All they have to do is flood Iran with weapons.
The U.S. may try to counter through Ukraine and Central Asia, but I agree that this is a sideways attempt by the U.S. to ignite an open battle with Iran.
I suspect that this move may be welcomed by both sides, however, as Russia seeks to expand it’s control and the Neo-Cons seek war with Iran.
Either way, civilians lose.
August 11th, 2008 at 2:10 pm
Impeach now!
August 11th, 2008 at 3:17 pm
arg4gh You are the ignorant moron. We need the union to protect us.
E-rich So you hate the USA and the EU so let me guess you hate white people fuck off. We want our nations to stay strong fuck off and mind your own business.
August 11th, 2008 at 3:49 pm
I have been searching for news of these ongoing atrocities. Alex Jones’ websites are the only place I learned that water supplies were cut off to S. Ossettia one month ago. This was a clear provocation and one of the signals of impending genocide.
Is there any way to keep a world-wide awareness of this type of thing? Is there a website that could serve as a clearing house for an awareness of power, food and water being deliberately withheld from civilian populations?
Where ever this type of thing occurs…war is imminent…irregardless of one’s position (political) on the “sides” involved.
Is there a clearing house for these signs of worsening tensions and other events that foreshadow aggression? Is there no humanitarian agency that pays attention? Or is there so much trouble everywhere that noone can keep track of it?
Perhaps all I can do is pray…but prayer can sometimes assuage.
August 11th, 2008 at 4:12 pm
AMY GOODMAN: Can you talk about significance of this, in terms of nuclear warfare in Russia? Do we have anything to fear along those lines?
COL. SAM GARDINER: Absolutely. Let me just say that if you were to rate how serious the strategic situations have been in the past few years, this would be above Iraq, this would be above Afghanistan, and this would be above Iran.
On little notice to Americans, the Russians learned at the end of the first Gulf War that they couldn’t—they didn’t think they could deal with the United States, given the value and the quality of American precision conventional weapons. The Russians put into their doctrine a statement, and have broadcast it very loudly, that if the United States were to use precision conventional weapons against Russian troops, the Russians would be forced to respond with tactical nuclear weapons. They continue to state this. They practice this in their exercise. They’ve even had exercises that very closely paralleled what went on in Ossetia, where there was an independence movement, they intervene conventionally to put down the independence movement, the United States and NATO responds with conventional air strikes, they then respond with tactical nuclear weapons.
To read more or watch the broadcast; http://www.democracynow.org/20....._killed_as
August 11th, 2008 at 7:31 pm
@All the idiots
I can’t believe how retarded some people are. One claims that Russian peacekeepers are not peacekeepers while ignoring the fact that while the US and NATO “peacekeepers” were bombing the crap out of Serbia to protect the Muslim extremist terrorist organisation, the KLA, that had received support from both Osama Bin Laden AND the US before the supposed “ethnic cleansing”, Russian peacekeepers were successfully keeping the peace in South Ossetia.
Later the US peacekeepers were bombing the crap out of Iraq, and threatening Iran, and US/NATO peacekeepers were letting Israel bomb the crap out of Lebanon.
And all that time Russian peacekeepers KEPT THE PEACE in South Ossetia.
Then, the US/NATO/ISRAEL started arming, training and egging on Georgia, and NOW the peace is shattered.
Next another retard says that Georgia doesn’t have an airforce, when even in the MSM they reported that Russians had bombed a Georgian factory making SU-25’s - the ex-Soviet equivalent of the A-10 ground attack aircraft.
Not only does Georgia have an airforce, they MAKE THEIR OWN PLANES. No airforce indeed! Interestingly, Georgian aircraft are the same as Russian aircraft, so if Georgia wants to make Russia look bad, all they have to do is bomb their own civilians!
Then there is THIS idiot:
“Russia may be seeking a window of opportunity to redefine the region. Perhaps Russia intends to expand it’s territory, declaring the Caucasus as part of its sphere of influence.”
Are you fucking kidding me? You are talking about an ex-soviet bloc nation, that is ON THE BORDER of the Russian Federation, and the US is equipping, training and egging on Georgia, as well as trying to force NATO to accept them as a new member, and you think RUSSIA is trying to expand its influence? Seriously fucking retarded!
“What message is Russia sending the West?”
Simple: “Stop trying to surround us with your fucking weapons, and cutting us off from our own strategic interests!” Are you that frigging dense that you don’t get the clear message?
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@Everyone
The plan here is obvious - wait for China to be tied up with the Olympics, create a war to tie Russia up, and Iran is easy game…
Except of course, as usual the retarded American leadership have no frigging clue and have once again got themselves in the shit. Just like Iraq and Lebanon, this is going to backfire MASSIVELY against US interests, not just in Georgia, but the whole Caspian region, AND now Iran can feel confident that any assurances given them by the Russians WILL be kept.
Unlike the US, Russia WILL fight to protect it’s allies, while the US never risks US troops for anything other than their own interests. All those little fence sitting nations will be taking notice, and you can be sure that unless the US gets directly involved to support Georgia, not one of those nations will ever believe US/NATO promises ever again.
That is, US/NATO/Israel is fucked, and they know it. That’s why they are whining so hard!
August 11th, 2008 at 7:45 pm
@Everyone
Can you imagine being the leader of the Czech Republic or Poland right now? You know that Georgia was given the same assurances that you have been given by the Americans that if you side with the US, the US will protect you.
Now you are watching Georgia get smashed by the Russians, and the US is doing nothing but talk about a Security Council resolution that EVERYONE (even the US) knows the Russians will just veto, and now the Georgians are even having to beg CHINA to intervene on their behalf.
I would be shitting myself right about now, if I was them.
August 11th, 2008 at 8:38 pm
The U.S has total Convicts in the whitehouse along with the congress running it’s as they screw the country into the ground and steal everything they can get there dirty hands on , and the U.S citizens are sitting around smoking dope getting drunk and waiting for Football season but China and Russia could be getting ready to confront this country as there gonna sooner than the other dopers running this corrupt country think as our fearless president struts his ass around the world dictating to Georgia / Iran / China and Russia and YOU the Americans as you let him do it instead of throw him in the trash can and recycle his ass into something constructive like Jail forever and waterboarding Than we’ll see if the President supports his own CIA which stands for Crooks In Action , The President said he was the Uniter not the devider do you remember ! And when he always spoke on the state of union’s addresses he allway’s told us that the economy was strong he meant his buddie’s and his economy was doing just fine as you are now going broke average Americans.
Now Americans you need to ( You Tube NSPD 51 / HSPD 20 ) and enjoy it as you will be seeing this take place pretty quick as Martial Law is and will be established in this once U.S of A .Welcome to the United States of Northren Mexico Amerimexicans Da . 2005 Signing of the NAU . And more cheap labor coming soon from prison camps right here in the U.S .
August 11th, 2008 at 9:19 pm
To me the US played both sides for the betterment of themselves - and just enough information was given to them to spark off the right amount of tension on both ends. This strategy was to raise the Kremlin’s anger that would roll out the (red) carpet for the self-proclaimed jewish politicians in the west. BUT I wouldn’t be surprised if this doesn’t irritate China and bring them to the table. McCain already threatened this will be a seriously dragged out event. With a repeat of history’s war tales, ‘long-term’ is nothing new and has remained faithful for it’s profitable benefactors. Nevertheless, taking on China, Russia and Iran may be God’s vengeance on the provoker. No question He’s had about enough of it. When it comes down to it, these are His people who are being massacred. They have no weapons, no preparation, or a rock in their hands, and they’re being plummeted by heavy artillery as if they were war tanks. Families were purposely sought out in their homes, like the German Nazi’s who barged in to machine gun them under their beds. Children deliberately run over with tanks, keeps evil’s hobos licking their chops. But you can bet your life on it, as long as God exists, there will be hell to pay for the perpetrators. Keep calling out to Him. When heaven appears silent, He’s moving tremendously behind the scenes. These demonic powers you’re seeing and hearing about, will not last as long as you think.
August 11th, 2008 at 10:34 pm
And I saw Satan fall from the sky as lightening. If governments don’t glorify God, then as Christians with a duty and a responsibility to mankind, must resist.
August 11th, 2008 at 10:38 pm
please stop posting that link to that boring shit band of yours. that limp dick garbage makes Emo sound like iggy and the stooges.
i had to watch this video five times to get a pulse back: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jt856_nRxQk
August 12th, 2008 at 12:47 am
What might be the ramifications of initiating a False Flag Operation in Beijing, God forbid?
August 12th, 2008 at 2:04 am
@BCinfoseeker
“What might be the ramifications of initiating a False Flag Operation in Beijing, God forbid?”
Unleashing the worlds largest army? Even if the US killed ten Chinese soldiers for every one they lost, the Chinese would still have soldiers standing on the battlefield while the US was reduced to sending kids and old men/women.
August 12th, 2008 at 2:27 am
GOD help me. They have declared war on me. My life has been utterly destroyed. Such evil has brought me to the lowest point I could have ever imagined. They have attacked my mind body and spirit. An attack on the body is one thing but to attack a persons mind over and over is far worse. What evil men devise such wicked schemes. They commit their evil deeds for all to see and pretend as they do nothing. But GOD sees all. Look around at the planet you are on. Look at the universe you are traveling through. Look at the big ball of fire hanging in space. What GOD we have. He created all things. Who do you serve that will stand with you before the Creator of the universe on the day of judgement? Do you think you will be able to blame others for your actions on that day. It appears men in their arrogance and pride do not fear even their own creator. Believe me when I say the scariest thing you will ever see or experience is your creator. Father let justice be done upon all of those that come against me. Evil shall not prevail. You are being caught in your own devices and you dont even see as you condemn your own souls.
August 12th, 2008 at 12:54 pm
Get webster tarply off of prison planet alex, he is obviously a n.w.o. agent,and he’s an egomaniac who does not even listen to what alex says, he interupts and is rude.
August 12th, 2008 at 1:49 pm
DONT BELIVE RUSSIAN MEDIA THEY LIE !
August 12th, 2008 at 1:51 pm
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August 12th, 2008 at 4:10 pm
Didn’t we go through all of this during WWI and WWII? Just what we need; Another World War!!! It seems that because we Americans are getting to be harder to convince that Iran has any kind of nuclear weapons abilities, Russia, it looks like, is probably going to be “postered” as the next ‘Bad Boy’. Yes. Russia has lots of nukes! Russia was our trusted “boogey man” before, so why not again?
We can also expect that while Russia eventually will become the target of the media, that the Washington DC will decide to bomb the daylights out of Iran anyway and do it unnoticed by the media. There’s the perfect political cover!!!
-JSSmith
August 12th, 2008 at 7:19 pm
Karmakaze,
You obviously care deeply about these issues. I appreciate that you even use specific details.
I suggest that you turn the volume down a bit if you want people to actually listen to important things you have to say. Your offensive, emotional tone is self-defeating.
It’s a microcosmic example of how we yell AT each other rather than communicate.
How is anything going to change for the better if people can’t even respect each other on a personal level?
Too bad.
August 13th, 2008 at 6:32 pm
Before everyone starts yelling that the US, Nato, Neo-cons, Bush et al are behind this.. isn’t it possible that Georgia has been pulling the stings itself?
First, they start asking about joining NATO, and once the NATO nations are getting friendly and supportive, Georgia goes for a bit of a land-grab in Ossetia, under the mistaken belief that NATO will back them if it all goes wrong. No need to tell anyone about this little plan, just in case their new-found friends don’t like the idea at all.. another case of the little guy using the fact that he has big friends to cause trouble, thinking he can get away with it, like the smug little kid at a school who thinks he can get away with whatever he likes, because he is in with the big kids…
Just look at Yugoslavia during WWII as an example.. the Serbs, Croats and Bosnians picked the side they wanted to be on, and then used their support to push their little ethnic feuds up a notch.
There doesn’t have to be a big, complicated conspiracy about this..Just human nature doing business as usual, sad as it is.
August 13th, 2008 at 7:32 pm
Try this website for details of the Russia/Georgia/US situation. http://www.onemorepromethean.com
The US had 1000 soldiers in Georgia for a training/wargames project called Immediate Response 2008, and have been funding the Georgian military since 2002.
August 13th, 2008 at 11:30 pm
Here we go again.
August 14th, 2008 at 3:59 am
Thanks God, there are some sane people left in this world, who wrote this article.
Greetings from North Ossetia.
August 14th, 2008 at 8:20 am
I think the American government should be forced to pay for this crime and the American MEDIA need to get with the program or they will lose in the end media playing games with human life needs to stop I am thinking they have crossed the line long ago WE THE PEOPLE will deal with them soon
August 14th, 2008 at 12:42 pm
This country is on a one way trip of it’s programing. This and many more issues like it are all a part of their plans to turn ourselves against eachother. Divide and enslave has always been the theme. The upper 2% think they have all the power, because they have the world involved in all their lil sceems, like insurance, money, terrorisim, global warming, the space program, hunger, homelessness, prisons, global warming, sports, oil prices, video games, energy costs, so called reality TV shows, personal comunications, and a long list of other distractions.
They have learned to manipulate the world under one plan in particular. And they are getting better at it. Economics. By it’s very deffinition of it’s process, is the blueprint by which they have enslaved the world as a whole.
We DO have the power to change all this. By controllinmg the very thing that they can not effect, no matter how crafty or brutal they may become. Your FREEWILL. They can’t take that away from you. It is THAT very freewill that has led you to this very place. By understanding, and helping others to do the same, is being a freedom fighter of the freewill.
Wellcome to the winning side. It is a new day!
August 14th, 2008 at 12:56 pm
has anyone else noticed that Bush and the other neocons seem to now prefer using the term “extremists” instead of “terrorists” in their speeches?? This is very concerning. At least when Bush referred to the terrorists, most people could assume he meant anyone who was Arabic, but now, when the aristocrats call their enemies “extremists” that is such a broad definition of who an extremist could be. We all know that they really are referring to patriotic 1st-amendment loving, anti-NWO civilian Americans like you and me. Frightening.
August 14th, 2008 at 4:52 pm
A friend of mine who just happened to be vietnam vet was murdered in the hosp for not having insurance I am sure. People the fascist run the prison, hosp and schools, We all need to ban together, the enemy are the rich, they kill, lie decieve to keep their happy luxuries lifestyles.
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