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Cow tax proposal on ‘methane emissions’ would threaten agriculture and push carbon tax
Ken Hamilton
Wyoming Farm Bureau Federation
Thursday, Nov 20, 2008
“With the economy in bad shape and the possibility of a deep recession looming, the Environmental Protection Agency is proposing to levy new taxes—on cows and pigs,” American Farm Bureau Federation Director of Regulatory Relations Rick Krause told Wyoming Farm Bureau members at their annual meeting. Krause spoke in Sheridan on Nov. 7.
“This is no laughing matter,” Krause said. “The cow tax and the pig tax are parts of a larger scheme by the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) to regulate greenhouse gases under the Clean Air Act.”
“Under the proposal, if a state charged the “presumptive minimum rate” from the EPA, the cow tax would be $175 per dairy cow, $87.50 per head for beef cattle and a little more than $20 per pig,” Krause explained.
Krause explained that the U.S. Department of Agriculture says that a producer with more than 25 dairy cows, 50 beef cattle or 200 hogs would emit more than 100 tons of carbon and be subject to the permitting requirements. “These thresholds would impact 99 percent of dairy producers, over 90 percent of beef producers and 95 percent of hog producers in the United States,” Krause stated.
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According to Krause, the EPA has issued an Advanced Notice of Proposed Rulemaking in preparation to regulate automobile greenhouse gas emissions under the Clean Air Act (CAA). “The regulation of automobile emissions automatically initiates other provisions of the CAA,” Krause explained. “One of those provisions requires permits from anyone who emits more than 100 tons of a regulated pollutant per year and there are millions of sources that emit more than 100 tons of carbon.”
The Title V permits, that are essentially a cow and pig tax, are supposed to contain provisions designed to reduce or eliminate the emissions of the regulated pollutant. “Cows and pigs methane emissions come from natural and biological processes,” Krause stated.
“The economic costs to producers from the cow and pig tax would be great and could cause the cost of beef, pork and dairy prices to rise,” Krause continued. “The cow and pig tax would impose severe penalties on livestock producers in the United States without effectively reducing greenhouse gas levels in the atmosphere.”
The comment deadline for the cow and pig tax is Nov. 28. Visit www.wyfb.org to find the link for information.
In other national issues, Krause addressed endangered species issues, including the wolf.
“I remember back in 1993 we were talking about how they will continue to change the numbers of wolves required,” Krause said. “Unfortunately, our assumption was accurate and even though there are five times more packs than needed for recovery, it has come down to a federal judge in Montana.”
“They are arguing there is no genetic exchange,” He said. “Well, the whole reason in the first place they were introduced is because they could not get here on their own. How are you going to have genetic interchange?”
“So what are we going to expect from the Endangered Species Act in the next four years?” Krause asked. “While only time will tell, we can expect no amendments to the ESA as those who are opposed to common sense management will work to keep it as is.”
The Wyoming Farm Bureau Federation is the state’s largest general agriculture organization. Members work together from the grassroots to develop agricultural policy, programs and services to enhance the rural lifestyle of Wyoming.
Contact: Ken Hamilton, Executive Vice President, 307-721-7712, khamilton@wyfb.org
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November 20th, 2008 at 5:15 am
This is preposterous. The main source of atmospheric methane is termites not cows and pigs. This is just another way for the elites to take our money from us.
November 20th, 2008 at 5:19 am
when are the people going to say “enough is too much” ???????? the environMENTAL morons keep pushing the buttons flying in their “corporate jets” and there’s no reaction !!!!!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/profile.....iew=videos
goldieshouse.piczo.com
November 20th, 2008 at 5:30 am
when do we people get a farting tax ?
November 20th, 2008 at 5:48 am
how does money changing hands from one person (the citizen slave) to the state( master of citizens) change methane emissions? So our federal Nazi’s are demanding we pay them for the of owning our own livestock. Transfer of wealth in no way changes emissions. if it is that big of a problem then money changing hands won’t fix it. Another insanity from the federal nazi’s. Enough is enough. Greed is the creed.
November 20th, 2008 at 6:21 am
ricomaan207 Says:
November 20th, 2008 at 5:15 am
This is preposterous. The main source of atmospheric methane is termites not cows and pigs. This is just another way for the elites to take our money from us.
{tounge planted firmly in cheak} I just consulted with the MY personal junk scientist and he says that the source of 75% of all greenhouse gas in the United States is generated in one particular building inside the capitol beltway.
November 20th, 2008 at 6:40 am
How much farther are we willing to be pushed? Wtf!? Do they really want a Revolution?!
November 20th, 2008 at 7:26 am
Yes, they want a revolution. It would go a long way to destroying the middle class. Then they can send us a 3rd party champion to save America.
November 20th, 2008 at 7:27 am
Roflol …Oh my goodness sakes…Okay…what about the wild boars emitting all that gas? Our pigs ham and bacon say the elites are full of horsesh-t.
November 20th, 2008 at 7:32 am
The World has gone CRAZY
What are they thinking or should I say are they thinking ?
Time for real change to occur
Get back to the basic principals of the Constitution and we may be able to stop the fall of the Republic
No Fed, IRS Dept of this & that etc
It is time people lets get to it
November 20th, 2008 at 7:35 am
NO LIVING BEING should have to pay ANYTHING to ANYONE, to exist ANYWHERE on this planet. Money does not exist in TRUE reality. The people instigating this thievery have NO control over the “things” in nature that just are, no matter how much money/power/control they seek to accumulate. This corrupt system will only stop when WE THE PEOPLE stop fueling it.
November 20th, 2008 at 8:06 am
…which will then finish off the remaining existing family farms…
This is why REAL farmers should not cooperate with the government in regards to filing out tax census papers, implanting RFID tags, or anything else like that.
In the future, untagged livestock will only be able to be sold “black market”. Tagging will be the way they determine how many cattle or hogs you have for tax purposes on the larger farms.
The bigger the farm and the more gullible the farmer, the easier it will be for them to implement such robbery.
In Calhoun County WV we already are “required” to pay head tax on goats and sheep, as well as the usual dog tax. Somewhere along the line they simply slid that into the tax laws? I guess so, because for years it was not there and all of a sudden it was…
Farmers, real ones and not agribusiness men, know what to do. The Amish are standing up to the RFID. Smaller farmers are NOT reporting livestock and not tagging.
Paying someone money does not make any less methane. Last time I checked, methane could be used as a fuel? Anyone ever hear of methane generators? I have an acquaintance who got a government grant years ago to BUILD one…
So, they give you money to build a methane generator and then when you have one they make you pay to use it? Come on….
November 20th, 2008 at 8:22 am
It would be nice not to have pools of pig crap lying around but I think it should be the responsibility of the pig’s owner and not the taxpayers!
And didn’t we pay for our cow fart study already? Where are the results?
And how is this tax going to reduce so-called greenhouse gases anyway? The only thing I see being reduced is American agricultural competitiveness.
This is stupid. We have MANY other more important problems to solve!
November 20th, 2008 at 9:35 am
i’ll say it again….
Green is RED!
November 20th, 2008 at 10:04 am
So, what they are basically saying is that the dinosaurs were made extinct by their own greenhouse gasses made by their gas? Not likely. This is just pomp and circumstance to get more of your money to line their own pockets…
November 20th, 2008 at 10:21 am
barak = israeli, president barack….
hussein = saddam hussein, iraq…..
obama = osama, afghanistan
November 20th, 2008 at 10:43 am
How long until I have to pay just to fart?
November 20th, 2008 at 11:02 am
Pay As You Flush [comrades]
HOUSEHOLDERS would be charged for the amount of water they flushed down the drain under a radical new blueprint to cut consumption, the Sunday Mail reports…..
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,,24658934-2,00.html
haha yeah people are gonna pay by the flush.. this money will be required to pay the
Water Conservation Officers [ toilet inspectors ]
Of course they will need to change the laws a bit to increase “access” to the civilians homes… but hell,
they’ll most likely just make the WCO’s a special branch of the Carbon Footprint Police…who, working as
another branch of Bylaw Inspection, already have the requisite permissions.
I heard somebody say once [ about the future..] that we would have Big Bro sooo far up our asses, that we would learn to enjoy it.
Looks like Big Brother is about to gain access…
November 20th, 2008 at 12:01 pm
This is already in place in many places.
Where I live they measure how much waste we put into the sewer and get charged for it.
I am tempted to route my sewer into my neighbors living room while he is vacation.
November 21st, 2008 at 1:23 am
Totalclarity, you and I think a lot alike ! I am somewhat of a left libertarian with views very similar to Proudhan at least in regards to land ownership.Actualy I have no problem with exclusive land ownership as long as everyone ,including the very poor, are alloted a fair share of land that is suitable as living space and some sort of self sustaining activity. I like you and Proudhon believe that this planet exists for the good of all its inhabitants,and has been given to us by a force beyond ourselves for free.I do not know anyone who paid or earned the right to be born and live upon this earth,but yet we were born here,so surely we do have a right to live and thrive upon this planet without paying another human being !
Now when it comes to matters of land use or regulation ,I am not quite so liberal.The fact of the matter is that we do have one planet to share,and if any portion of the earth is truly harmed in some way we are all effected. I have noticed that many consevitives are opposed to land use regulations,but are readily in favor of laws which regulate the things a person does with their own body ! They just do not understand that while we share the same planet,no one has to share the same body ”unless we are talking about co-joined twins ”!
I can not stay on line much longer,but let me tell you that I am interested in forming a new left libitarian party and I am looking for people with beliefs similar to those that you hold.If you are interested in talking to me further please contact me at this e-mail adress .
shwoniervr@verizon.net
November 21st, 2008 at 2:16 am
“With the economy in bad shape and the possibility of a deep recession looming, the Environmental Protection Agency is proposing to levy new taxes”
Bull crap. Creating new taxes or raising taxes will make things worse.
November 21st, 2008 at 10:53 am
WE SHOULD ALL SHIT IN A BAG AND SEND TO WASHINGTON.THESE BASTARDS ARE ASKING FOR A ASS KICKING.
November 21st, 2008 at 12:25 pm
Get ready Daisy – you’re going to be put down because the veggie enviro-MENTAL-ists want tax the methane you fart in order to supposedly save the planet from the none existent ‘cow made’ global warming.
You too Snouty! Pigs are going to be taxed out of existence as well! Along with all the other animal life that dares to burp and fart.
Thank you enviro-nutters! Makes me wonder what type of planet you’re going to save for us – for it sure won’t be a one that is full of life and joy!
November 21st, 2008 at 4:09 pm
The answer to all this bullshit is what the answer was to 1776! Wake up . There enslaving each and every one of us. Wealthy,corporate mongers. You get to where you detest the Rich only wanting more Power ! They want to take the so-called little we might have. Greedy Bastards! Its getting so close to mankind speaking back with a Bang! Its just like History repeating itself. Why are they trying to put us in misery. How can they go past the mirror and look at themselves in it? They must not have one bit of respect for what life gave them.
November 21st, 2008 at 4:37 pm
You know, the More and More i think about this, its so Damn criminal it isn’t funny!! the Family farmer with this new Tax is going to be the end for them even having a chance? You damn right we best fight AGAINST this Bill they want to enforce. Its a move for Corporate business to steal this business away from the working men and women, on Farms . These Farms were handed down by ancestors and family to the Family Members! These were farms that made it through a depression earlier in our generation. You can see it. corporate want to take these lands away best way they know how to! Tax us for it! There trying to take your farms away from you and me. Your grandfathers and there grandfathers are turning over in there graves over this crap! And good reason too! What is Legally yours, No one can take away Unless the Government takes it by raising taxes and you can’t pay them. Thats the only way possible. Then, they’ll have CONTROL of the Farms to raise THEIR cattle on. They’ll make it so unaffordable to you and me,wonder where we’ll get our food then. Those Steaks we use to Grill on the weekends? We won’t be able to afford a steak in due time. DON”T ALLOW THIS TAX TO HAPPEN PEOPLE! If it passes on the farmer, it will sure as hell affect you and me then too! They can’t stand an AMERICAN owns land they believe they own or want. So what do they do? Raise taxes so you can’t afford to make ends meet, then they come in and say they Own it, because you weren’t able to pay your taxes. They take it, and Order you off that Land! Order you out of the house your Grand dads and Fathers built and worked and gave it to you. There going to try to Take something that is YOURS! Don’t let them By God! Throw this Bill in there faces and Make them taste the shit they’ve been feeding all of us for Far too Long! Who the FUCK do they think they are any more? They DON”T want you to make it so you loose your land and they will come in and take it! Makes you wonder if this is what they want with this whole country again like they did back in 1776? Better educate yourselves people. History is repeating itself and what isn’t set to yet sure as hell will!
November 21st, 2008 at 9:08 pm
This is crazy…
November 22nd, 2008 at 10:17 am
http://www.madehow.com/Volume-5/Gelatin.html
You know, these corporate managers are after one thing Profit!I worked for a company that processed all that Mad Cow Bone from Back in 2001 from England ,France and Germany. They weren’t worried to much what that Infested animal Bone went into. So why would they worry if we rebutt them taxing the Farmer for such? They did NOTHING to stop where that Bone was being used for. It went into Pharmacueticals. CapsulGel or Fiser Company, received the Gelatin, Unknowing that There Product which went into making pharmacueticals was processed with the Mad Cow Brought over to the United States back in 2001. The Topic i highlighted at top, is an explanation why i lost my Job of over 16 years, and what this animal bone and the process rendered back into our Food Chain. The Company back then was Knox Gelatin of Sgt. Bluff, Iowa. They have changed names again since then. Those Pharmacuetical companys have no idea that animal bone was used in there Processes. So yes, they push things through only if it benefits them and its usually on a financial note!
November 22nd, 2008 at 12:03 pm
“Under the proposal, if a state charged the “presumptive minimum rate” from the EPA, the cow tax would be $175 per dairy cow, $87.50 per head for beef cattle and a little more than $20 per pig,” Krause explained.
let the bidding start at $175 per head, do i hear 180? 180! 180-180-180-185? 185! we have $185! $200….$200….. do i have $200?…. $200!.. we have $200!
….do i hear $225?
December 10th, 2008 at 4:02 pm
Maybe they will wake up when they are all starving because they put all the farmers out of buissness!!!
December 12th, 2008 at 10:48 am
How else do you all propose that you counter the carbon emissions your livestock produce? I understand your concern that this will crush small farmers… but how else do factory farmers pay the toll they have created on the environment?
With 18% of global warming coming from your livelihood, what measures are you taking to reduce these numbers?
What alternatives do you suggest?
March 10th, 2009 at 12:28 pm
Wow, I just have to comment on how ignorant a lot of you are being (except for Susanne.) Do none of you realize why they are doing it?
Cows and livestock in general are a huge cause of global warming. They produce an estimated 15% of methane emissions if not more!
The whole point of the tax is to encourage farmers to raise less of these animals so that less methane is being produced from them.
What are the alternatives? Well they can try to come up with a more digestible diet for livestock so they don’t produce as much methane, but how realistic is that? That too would cost a lot of money, and I doubt that anyone will put the effort into it. The only other way would be to quit eating meat. Simple. Then farmers will be forced to raise less cattle. But that too is unrealistic because americans are so obessed with their meat they just can’t part with it!
Trust me, I love meat just as much as the next gal, so I don’t necesarily want it to come to that! In fact that way would be even worse for farmers and the economy. So if you can come up with a better plan go right ahead and propose it instead of bashing a tax meant to help our world.
Believe it or not but global warming is not science fiction; there is so much proof out there that it exists; and if you know that global warming exists and what the expected effects are, there is no way that you would be bashing this bill right now, you would be supporting it.