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Debate Post-Mortem: Obama’s Bin Laden, Romney’s Bad-Guys, And Mali, Manipulators & Moar Centrifuges

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Oct 22, 2012

Was it just us – or was that a bit of a snoozer? Some fascinating ‘off-topic’ debates that dragged us from Mali to Massachusetts 1st grade math scores, and from Bayonets to Obamacare. Some reasonable amount of agreement between the two on foreign policy punctuated by flip-flopper and weakling name-calling. Ironically, given our boxing-match meme – the counterpunches were incessant though Romney seemed to play defense more and Obama appeared to more urgently change the discussion (with little impact). Lots of braggadocio on naming multi-syllabic foreign towns and leaders. Obama won the drinking-game challenge by a long-way 53:34. Obama also won the ‘time-spoken’ challenge (by the narrowest margin of the 3 debates) 41:42 to 41:07. Obama’s odds of an election win levitated modestly from the beginning (from around 59.5% to 61.5%). Of course, Wal-Mart got very, very quiet when the cheap China import bashing started, but luckily it too was based on generic 10 second attention span talking points, and led nowhere, so the Waltons can get back to doing what they do best. So far an Obama clean-sweep on our scientific study, which of course was highly irrelevant: all the truly important foreign issues (EU, China economic ascendancy, Japanese decline) were ignored. Why? The “Mr. Chairman will get to work” of course, showing once again who is truly in charge.

Obama’s Intrade Odds rising modestly…

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and wins the drinking game…

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Bloomberg Full Headline count:

OBAMA

*OBAMA SAYS ‘WE ARE REBUILDING ALLIANCES AROUND THE WORLD’
*OBAMA SAYS PEOPLE IN BENGHAZI MARCHED AS A U.S. FRIEND
*OBAMA SAYS ROMNEY’S STRATEGY HAS BEEN ‘ALL OVER MAP’
*OBAMA SAYS HE IS GLAD ROMNEY FINALLY REALIZES AL QAEDA IS ISSUE
*OBAMA SAYS ’1980′S CALLED WANT FOREIGN POLICY BACK GOV.ROMNEY’
*OBAMA SAYS ON FOREIGN POLICY GOV. ROMNEY IS ALWAYS WRONG
*OBAMA SAYS ROMNEY’S SOLUTIONS DO NOT PROVIDE A STRONG U.S.
*OBAMA SAYS IN MIDEAST NEED TO PROTECT WOMEN/RELIGIOUS MINORITY
*OBAMA SAYS ‘SYRIANS WILL HAVE TO DETERMINE THEIR OWN FUTURE’
*OBAMA SAYS ‘U.S. IS PLAYING A LEADERSHIP ROLE IN SYRIA’
*OBAMA SAYS ROMNEY THOUGHT CAPTURING QADDAFI WAS MISSION MUDDLE
*OBAMA SAYS ‘ROMNEY DOES NOT HAVE DIFFERENT IDEAS ON SYRIA’
*OBAMA: EGYPT NEEDS TO STAY FRIENDLY TO ISRAEL, THAT IS RED LINE
*OBAMA SAYS ‘OUR ALLIANCES HAVE NEVER BEEN STRONGER’
*OBAMA SAYS ROMNEY IS PROPOSING ‘WRONG AND RECKLESS POLICIES’
*OBAMA: ‘POLICIES YOU ARE PROMOTING DON’T HELP SMALL BUSINESS’
*OBAMA SAYS ROMNEY WANTS TO SLASH FUNDING FOR EDUCATION
*OBAMA SAYS GOV. ROMNEY’S ‘MATH DOES NOT WORK’
*OBAMA SAYS THE NAVY HAS CHANGED WE DON’T USE HORSES/BAYONETS
*OBAMA SAYS MY TEAM VISITED YOUR WEBSITE ‘IT STILL DOESNT WORK’
*OBAMA SAYS ROMNEY DOES NOT UNDERSTAND A MODERN MILITARY
*OBAMA SAYS ‘IF ISRAEL IS ATTACKED, I WILL STAND WITH ISRAEL’
*OBAMA SAYS IF I AM PRESIDENT IRAN WILL NOT HAVE NUCLEAR WEAPON
*OBAMA SAYS EVERY FACTCHECKER SAYS APOLOGY TOUR IS NOT TRUE
*OBAMA SAYS ROMNEY WAS INVESTED IN COMPANY INVESTED IN IRAN OIL
*OBAMA SAYS ‘WE HAVE SHOWN STRENGH IN IRAN’ AND IRAN IS WEAK NOW
*OBAMA SAYS FIRST TRIP I TOOK AS CANIDATE WAS TO TROOPS
*OBAMA SAYS WHEN I WENT TO ISRAEL WENT TO YAD VASHEM
*OBAMA SAYS WHEN ROMNEY CAMPAIGNED HE DID FUNDRAISERS,MET DONORS
*OBAMA SAYS HE IS PLEASED ROMNEY IS ENDORSING HIS POLICIES
*OBAMA SAYS ROMNEY SWITCHES HIS POSITIONS ON MIDDLE EAST
*OBAMA SAYS ROMNEY ‘WANTED TO ASK PAKISTAN OK TO KILL BIN LADEN’
*OBAMA SAYS ‘AL QAEDA IS WEAKER NOW THEN WHEN I TOOK OFFICE’
*OBAMA SAYS CHINA IS BOTH A POTENTIAL PARTNER AND ADVERSARY
*OBAMA SAYS WE LOSE COMPETITION WITH CHINA IF EDUCATION SLASHED
*OBAMA SAYS ROMNEY INVESTED IN COMPANIES THAT SHIP JOBS TO CHINA
*OBAMA SAYS ‘U.S. EXPORTS TO CHINA HAVE DOUBLED’
*OBAMA SAYS ‘U.S. IS A PACIFIC POWER’
*OBAMA SAYS ‘CHECK THE RECORD’ ON ROMNEY AND AUTO INDUSTRY
*OBAMA SAYS ROMNEY ‘KEEPS TRYING TO AIRBRUSH HISTORY’
*OBAMA SAYS ‘ROMNEY FOREIGN POLICIES ARE WRONG AND RECKLESS’

ROMNEY

*ROMNEY SAYS ‘NUMBER OF DISTURBING EVENTS’ IN MIDDLE EAST
*ROMNEY SAYS ‘SEEING DRAMATIC REVERSAL’ FROM ARAB SPRING TO NOW
*ROMNEY SAYS ‘WE CAN’T KILL OUR WAY OUT OF THIS MESS’
*ROMNEY SAYS ‘NEED MUSLIM WORLD TO REJECT EXTREMISM ON OWN’
*ROMNEY SAYS ‘IRAN IS ON THAT PATH TO A NUCLEAR WEAPON’
*ROMNEY SAYS ‘ATTACKING ME DOESN’T PROVIDE MIDEAST SOLUTIONS’
*ROMNEY SAYS ‘I WON’T WEAR ROSE COLORED GLASSES FOR RUSSIA’
*ROMNEY SAYS ‘SYRIA IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US’ IRAN IS ONLY ALLY
*ROMNEY SAYS ‘NEED TO MAKE SURE INSURGENTS ARE ARMED’
*ROMNEY SAYS WANTS SYRIAN INSURGENTS ARMED IN RESPONSIBLE WAY
*ROMNEY SAYS ‘I DON’T WANT OUR MILITARY INVOLVED IN SYRIA’
*ROMNEY SAYS I WISH U.S. SAW PASSION FOR FREEDOM IN THE MIDEAST
*ROMNEY SAYS HE AGREES WITH HOW OBAMA HANDLED MUBARAK/EGYPT
*ROMNEY SAYS IRAN’S AHMADINEJAD SAYS U.S. DEBT IS SECURITY ISSUE
*ROMNEY SAYS ‘AMERICA MUST BE STRONG. AMERICA MUST LEAD’
*ROMNEY SAYS ‘WE ARE GOING TO CUT 5% OF DISCRETIONARY SPENDING’
*ROMNEY SAYS ‘OBAMACARE DOESN’T SOUND GOOD, CAN’T AFFORD IT’
*ROMNEY SAYS I HAVE SPENT MY CAREER BALANCING BUDGETS
*ROMNEY SAYS ‘THE PRESIDENT HASN’T BALANCED A BUDGET YET’
*ROMNEY SAYS ‘IF ISRAEL IS ATTACKED, WE HAVE ISRAEL’S BACK’
*ROMNEY SAYS ‘NUCLEAR CAPABLE IRAN IS NOT ACCEPTABLE’
*ROMNEY SAYS ‘I WOULD TAKE ON STRONGER IRANIAN SANCTIONS’
*ROMNEY SAYS ‘IRAN BELIEVES THIS ADMINISTRATION IS NOT STRONG’
*ROMNEY SAYS IRAN SAW WEAKNESS FROM THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION
*ROMNEY SAYS ‘OBAMA BEGAN U.S. APOLOGY TOUR IN MIDDLE EAST’
*ROMNEY SAYS OBAMA SKIPPED ISRAEL ON HIS APOLOGY TOUR
*ROMNEY SAYS ‘AMERICA HAS NOT DICTATED OTHER NATIONS’
*ROMNEY SAYS IF OBAMA IS ELECTED I SEE IRAN CLOSER TO BOMB
*ROMNEY SAYS IF OBAMA ELECTED I SEE SYRIA WITH 30K DEAD
*ROMNEY SAYS WITH OBAMA OUR INFLUENCE IS RECEDING
*ROMNEY SAYS IT IS NOT TIME TO DIVORCE PAKISTAN
*ROMNEY SAYS PAKISTAN ‘IS TECHNICALLY AN ALLY’ DON’T BLAME OBAMA
*ROMNEY SAYS PAKISTAN HAD U.S. ANGER BEFORE BIN LADEN RAID
*ROMNEY SAYS ‘I SUPPORT DRONE STRIKES’ BELIEVE OBAMA IS RIGHT
*ROMNEY SAYS ‘WE NEED TO DO MORE THAN KILLING BAD GUYS’
*ROMNEY SAYS ‘CHINA WANTS A STABLE WORLD’
*ROMNEY SAYS CHINA WANTS THE ‘WORLD TO BE FREE AND OPEN’
*ROMNEY SAYS ‘NEED TRADE RELATIONS WITH CHINA THAT WORK FOR US’
*ROMNEY SAYS ‘OUR GOODS ARN’T COMPETITIVE WITH CHINA’
*ROMNEY SAYS ‘CHINA NEEDS TO PLAY BY THE RULES’
*ROMNEY SAYS ‘CHINA HACKS OUR COMPUTERS, STEALS IP,COPIES GOODS’
*ROMNEY SAYS IT’S CLEAR THAT CHINA DOES NOT WANT TRADE WAR
*ROMNEY SAYS ‘CHINA CAN’T JUST ROLL ALL OVER US’
*ROMNEY SAYS ‘ATTACKING ME’ WON’T CREATE JOBS IN THIS COUNTRY
*ROMNEY SAYS ‘I WOULD DO NOTHING TO HURT AUTO INDUSTRY’
*ROMNEY SAYS AUTO INDUSTRY NEEDED A MANAGED BANKRUPTCY
*ROMNEY SAYS ‘I WANTED TO HELP AUTO INDUSTRY GET ON FEET’
*ROMNEY SAYS ‘I DON’T WANT TO GO BACK’ TO OBAMA POLICIES
*ROMNEY SAYS ‘I DON’T WANT GOVERNMENT TO PUSH WAYS INTO SCHOOLS’
*ROMNEY SAYS PRESIDENT’S PATH WOULD HAVE U.S. TOWARDS GREECE

Overall: (ironic subliminal word groupings: Nuclear Military Get World, Sure People Want World Make America, and Just Years)

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Word-Counts:

Romney 8,745 words – a debate record for him – for a pace of 213 words per minutes – just shy of his record-breaking pace of Debate #1It would seem “WORLD”, America, and military played an important role in his evening’s discussion with Iran (23) > Pakistan (15) > Israel (14) and 3x Centrifuges…

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Obama’s 7,740 words once again lagged Romneys and his pace decidely slower at more “I…I…I…” dominated 185 words per minute. It seemed ‘making sure’ and ‘leadership’ were his buzzwordsbut the key areas for discussion (in order of importance) by instances: Iran (20); China (18); Israel (17); Pakistan (4); Mali (2); Africa (1); Europe (1)

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and Europe scored a perfect ‘nill points’ on the Global foreign policy discussions… (though Romney mentioned Greece twice)

So Romney wins word-count and talking-speed, Obama wins time-spoken and drinking-game… 2-2 and tie is broken by Intrade odds rising by around 2% – the winner and still the incumbent – Barack Obama…

This article was posted: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 at 3:02 am





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