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  • DHS Proposes U.S. Gun Laws to Fight Mexican Drug Cartel Violence

    Kurt Nimmo
    Infowars
    March 12, 2009

    Roger Rufe, Homeland Security’s head of operations, wants to further erode the Second Amendment. Rufe told lawmakers more restrictive gun control and law enforcement may be needed in the Southwest United States in response to the drug war in Mexico, according to the Associated Press.

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      According to Congress and the DHS, the Second Amendent and the right to gun ownership is at the root of Mexican drug cartel violence.
       

    Rufe also said protecting border may require “deploying military personnel and equipment to the region if other agencies are overwhelmed.” He did not specify what circumstances would trigger a call for troops. “We would take all resources short of DoD (Defense Department) and National Guard troops before we reach that tipping point,” Rufe told lawmakers on a House homeland security subcommittee. “We very much do not want to militarize our border.”

    Democrats joined the chorus rallying against the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

    In order to solve the problem of violence associated with the drug cartel war in Mexico, Rep. John Tierney (D-Mass) said during a House subcommittee hearing on Thursday that the government should think about imposing further restrictions on the Second Amendment. “Let’s examine our gun laws, let’s cut down on U.S. drug consumption, let’s ask there to be more resources to root out drug money laundering,” said Tierney.

    Instead, we should examine the role of the U.S. government in the illegal drug trade. As former DEA agent Cele Castillo has told Alex Jones on numerous occasions, the DEA and CIA are intimately involved in drug smuggling. Castillo has “personally witnessed CIA drug smuggling operations funneled through terrorists that were also involved in kidnappings and the training of death squads on behalf of the U.S. government,” writes Michael Webster for the American Chronicle.

    Evidence of this surfaced on September 24, 2008, when a Grumman Gulfstream II jet crashed near Cancun, Mexico with 4 tons of cocaine onboard. The plane had the same registration number as a CIA transport plane used to ferry prisoners to Guantanamo Bay between 2003 and 2005.

    CIA involvement in cocaine trafficking in partnership with the Contras was so rampant in the 1980s that the CIA’s Inspector General Fred Hitz was obliged to testify before the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence admitting as much.

    In 1999, it was estimated by the Department of Justice that that $100 billion in drug funds were laundered in the U.S. each year. Catherine Austin Fitts, the former Assistant Secretary of Housing under Bush Senior, placed the figure at $250 to $300 billion (see Fitts’ Narco-Dollars for Beginners:
    How the Money Works in the Illicit Drug Trade
    ). Others place the figure closer to $1 trillion annually.

     

    So important are illicit drug profits for Wall Street and the banksters, Richard Grasso, Chairman of the New York Stock Exchange, to flew to Colombia in 1999 to meet with a spokesperson for Raul Reyes of the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Columbia (FARC), the supposed “narco terrorists.” It was explained at the time that Grasso was dispatched “to bring a message of cooperation from U.S. financial services” and discuss foreign investment and the future role of U.S. businesses in Colombia. In fact, as a Wall Street mob boss, Grasso was talking with the Marxist FARC in order to keep to the circulation of cocaine bucks surging through Wall Street financial institutions.

    In February, the United Nation’s Office on Drugs and Crime Executive Director Antonio Maria Costa told an Austrian magazine that drug money has been the only thing that has kept many major banks in business. “In many instances, drug money is currently the only liquid investment capital,” said Costa.

    In 2008, the U.S. Justice Department opened an investigation into money transfers conducted by Wachovia bank. It is alleged that Wachovia transferred funds from drug deals in the United States to Mexican and Columbian money-exchange houses, or casas de cambio.

    It is not only Wachovia, however, that is suspected of laundering money for the drug cartels. American Express International Bank, Bank Atlantic, the Union Bank of California, the Sigue Corp. and others, according to the Justice Department, have resolved cases of money laundering to avoid federal prosecution.

    The Mexican Attorney General’s office says many of the casas de cambio are part of an elaborate system which funnels drug money through U.S. banks, on to European banks and then back to the U.S. and Latin America (see The Banking Industry’s Dirty Little Secret: Money Laundering For The Drug Cartels).

     

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    If Rep. John Tierney was sincerely interested in ending drug money laundering, he would take his investigation to Wall Street. Of course, if he did that, he would likely be the victim of an unfortunate accident.

     

    But then the idea here is not to put an end to the lucrative Mexican drug business. Instead, it is a cynical effort to contrive yet another excuse to chip away at the Second Amendment and take guns away from law-abiding American citizens that have nothing to do with the problem-reaction-solution drug war in Mexico.

    Roger Rufe and the Ministry of Homeland Security will eventually call for the deployment of troops but this has nothing to do with ending the violence along the border – or ending illegal immigration for that matter.

    “The State Department recently estimated U.S.-originated guns were used in 95% of Mexico’s drug-related killings,” the Wall Street Journal reported earlier this week. “Ms. Napolitano has promised a total of $45 million more for border protection next year, but it’s unclear how much of that would be directed toward stemming the flow of guns and money to Mexico.”

    In other words, the problem is not illegal immigration or the bankster spawned drug cartel war in Mexico – the problem for the government and the global elite is the American people, their guns, and archaic belief in the Second Amendment and the Constitution.

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    40 Responses to “DHS Proposes U.S. Gun Laws to Fight Mexican Drug Cartel Violence”

    1. Town declares independence Says:

      A Maine town has declared its right to local self governance. This is the way for towns to go to protect their constitutional rights.

      “Today the citizens of Shapleigh, Maine voted at a special town meeting to pass a groundbreaking Rights-Based Ordinance, 114 for and 66 against. This revolutionary ordinance give its citizens the right to local self-governance and gives rights to ecosystems but denies the rights of personhood to corporations. This ordinance allows the citizens to protect their groundwater resources, putting it in a common trust to be used for the benefit of its residents.

      Shapleigh is the first community in Maine to pass such an ordinance, which extends rights to nature, however, the Ordinance Review Committee in Wells, Maine is considering passing one in their town. These communities have been under attack by Nestle Waters, N.A., a multi-national water miner that sells bottled water under such labels as Poland Springs.

    2. Dilbert McGunnut Says:

      Hey DHS here is a suggestion. CLOSE THE F*CKIN BORDER! If you don’t want Mexico’s problems HERE then close the border. They say they don’t want to militarize the border? WTF. Here is a question, why do U.S. Army bases have fences around them? Why do some people put fences around their businesses or private property? To keep people out! So why have a border if you are not going to prevent people from crossing it. The border could be closed in a week if the gov’mint wanted it closed. I was sure they would close the border within a week of 9/11 but here it is years later and it’s still open.

      Blaming U.S. gun laws (or lack of gun laws) for the problems is Mexico is absurd. Do they expect us the swallow this BS?

      P O F Reply:

      To answer your question. Yes they expect us to swallow this BS. And some people actually will. Your answer of closing the border is too simple, and too effective for our government to actually do it. Not to mention, they MSM likes to leave out the weapons used by the drug cartels as many can not be purchased in the US, unless you are getting them from the Military, CIA, etc..,

      truth911 Reply:

      they cant pit up a fence , look at the Berlin wall , look at Israel, walls dont work , if they put up wall , the money would stop flowing to the bankers and our bought off criminal government. i say drug test them all . all government employees monthly drug test from the cop who thinks he works for the good guys all the way to the criminal puppet president test them all

      dennis gaudet Reply:

      i agree 100%

      Cpt_Invictus Reply:

      Yes, they do as a matter of fact expect you to swallow the bullshit. Even more so, they have funnels on stand by to cram down your throat so they may just poor the bullshit into your system. Introvienius systems are being developed to pump the bullshit into your system with other systems in the works to monitor the amount of bullshit in your bloodstream from near space. Hell, even talking about the bullshit that they will use to make you full of shit is becomeing illegal. Even knowing that you are being forced to accept bullshit into your body is illegal. WAKE THE FUCK UP PEOPLE!! You want a tangible clue that the bullshit you are eating every day is by force? Just try to fight back! Go to walmart and ask for some 9mm auto…or 7.62. If you find it at all, its twice as much as it was this same time last year, if you are able to get it at all!! WAR IS COMMING!! Fight!! Or die on your knees with bullshit being pumped into ever hole of your body.

    3. Billo Says:

      I don’t trust any of those creeps. The competition must be making inroads to our government sponsored drug running and money laundering. Let’s not be rushed into any rash decisions.

    4. dan from ohio Says:

      first they call us supporters of Ron Paul and the Constitution terrorist and now our Constituional rights are to blame for another countries civil war.Has DHS ever considered that the cartels would simply buy their weapons from south American countries who oppose the US?This is just another nail in the coffin for the US.I say let the war for this nation begin.I would rather go down fighting than live in this nightmare which is coming upon use fast…lock and load everybody!

    5. Gary S Says:

      Yes, but keep in mind, if the border was closed, the drug flow would be bottle necked and then, what would their goon squads do? Police get perverse joy out of busting doors and heads in drug raids. What a shame the police do not understand that that sort of training is gearing them up for martial law.

      As for guns laws, it is one more way they are moving to seize guns and label those who possess such collections as potential criminals. If anyone needs to be disarmed, it’s the psychotic feds and their goon squads.

    6. Joel Says:

      I haven’t heard a good argument without invoking slippery slope why requiring further identification, not even limiting gun sales themselves, is unconstitutional…”A well regulated…”

      Let’s get this straight, the government can’t/won’t make sweeping gun law changes because of the number of people who are adamantly opposed – however, you don’t have any constitutional right to buy a gun if your plan is to smuggle it to Mexico and use it in drug violence. Am I missing something here?

    7. Tumbler Says:

      This is BS. This is a back door way to get guns away from the people that need them the most right now. I’m not about to give up my basic human right to self defense when they left the borders open to any POS that wants to come in and hurt our citizens, sell drugs and smuggle immigrants in to take our jobs. The criminals will be the only ones with guns and that includes some police that shouldn’t have one. I’m not about to give up my rights out of necessity, the way Mexico and other countries have only to find themselves in slavery and criminals running the show. It’s getting that way here in America too. Both parties have the same goal , The NWO integration.
      It’s time for all who are supposed to protect and serve to really think about who you are serving, and will you carry out unlawful orders. Will you defend us against the domestic enemy? The masses have woke up and armed. You better get it through your hard heads that you are the publics employee, or else you will become fodder trying to disarm the core of people who founded this country. Consider your selves surrounded.

    8. desertstorm91 Says:

      History repeats itself. Hitler starting printing money he needed to fund his plans of conquering countries (US invading countries). This in turn caused massive inflation (the US is on its way). The economy fell. Hitlers hench men rounded up all citizens arms and enacted gun laws. The economy crashed and he blamed the Jews for its fall. Then the slaughter of millions began. Beginning to sound alot like the US is headed in the same direction….

    9. truth911 Says:

      the dhs is one of those criminal agencies

    10. SENATOR CRAIG Says:

      People, the QUESTION THAT NEEDS TO BE ASKED IS,FROM WHERE AND FROM WHOM ARE TONS OF MILITARY GRADE AUTOMATIC RIFLES BEING SMUGGLED INTO MEXICO AND THE DRUG CARTELS HANDS? WHAT IS A KNOWN FACT IS THAT THE U.S. GOVERNMENT TRAINED AND SUPPLIED HUNDREDS OF MEXICAN MILITARY OFFICERS ON AMERICAN BASES,(IN THE PHONY WAR ON DRUGS) TO COMBAT THE DRUG CARTELS, HOWEVER WHAT THE JACKASSES DID’NT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT IS THAT THOSE OFFICERS WERE PART OF THE CARTELS ALL ALONG.

    11. Ted Says:

      Don’t give up any of your freedoms. Demand more!

    12. Cherri Says:

      Yep, take away the guns of the people who are having to defend their property and family from these illegal lawbreakers. The government will NEVER EVER EVER stop illegal immigration so they certainly don’t want “we the people” stopping it either.

    13. BRIAN PEPPERS Says:

      DHS is the real terrorist organization! They think everyone is a terrorist, they are lame in the head and want to take everyone’s rights from them while leaving the people defenseless to defend themselves! F.U.B.O!

    14. bea Says:

      Do you recollect the days of Al Capone? Alcohol was a lucrative income! Alcohol was against the law.
      Now we have the Mexican Cartels and the U.S. Gov. Drugs is a lucrative income! Selective drugs are against the law.
      Big Pharma most of their drugs and somehow legal. Competition God’s herbs and supplements. FDA is coming against God’s herbs and supplements bad bad for you!
      Soon will be against the law.
      Does anyone see the correlation?
      ALCHOHOL LEGALIZED STOPPED THE GANGSTERS LUCRATIVE INCOME
      LEGALIZED THE SELECTIVE PLANTS & IT WILL STOP ALCIADA,DRUG CARTEL LUCRATIVE INCOME
      STOP THE UNLEGALIZATION HERBS AND SUPPLEMENTS, HOMOPATHIC PHYSICIANS NO MORE PHARMA & ORTHODOX MEDICINE.
      TO BEGIN TO IMPLEMENT ANY OF THE ABOVE WILL CUT INTO GREED, AND POWER
      THE U.S. IS THE BIG PRIZE . WHY SHOULD THEY SHUT THE BORDER?

      AS LONG AS PEOPLE KEEP FEEDING OFF MAINSTREEM MEDIA,
      DON’T READ. DRINK FLORIDATED WATER. TAKE A PILL FOR GOD KNOWS WHAT.
      DEPEND ON THEIR CHILDEN TO BE BABYSITTED BY THE FEDERAL SCHOOLS.
      NO ONE HAS ASKED WHAT THE HELL ARE WE DOING IN APHGANISTAN!!!!!
      OUT OF IRAQ INTO APHGANISTAN, OUT OF WWI INTO WWII, OUT OF WWII INTO KOREAN WAR, OUT OF KOREAN WAR INTO VIETNAM WAR OUT OF VIETNAM WAR INTO IRAQ,
      GREED, POWER, HEY KEEP SWALLOW THAT US GOOD GUYS THEM BADS GUYS PILL
      AND THEY WILL EVEN DELIVER YOUR BODY BACK WITH CAKE FILL COCAINE COFFIN FOR FREE!!!!
      THE FROG IN LUKE WARM WATER AND DOESN’T KNOW THE POT IS SLOWING HEATING UP.SLOWWWWW KILL, SLOWWWWW KILL, SLOWWWWW KILL , SLICE BY SLICE IN SMALL INCREMENTS. THAT’S HOW.
      IF YOU HAVE GUNS YOU ARE BAD. HOW CAN I PILAGE IF YOU KEEP SHOOTING AT ME?
      I LIVE ALONG THE MEXICAN BORDER, I’VE SEEN THE BACK PACKS STRAYED ALONG THE DESERT. BUT I ALSO KNOW THE AREA. WITH THIS STIMULUS BAILOUT GOING TO FOREIGN INVESTMENTS WE ARE IN FOR ONE HELL OF A RIDE. UNEMPLOYEMENT, HUNGER, MOTHERS AND NOT TO NICE WHEN THEIR CHILDREN ARE COMING TO THEM TO HAVE THEIR BELLYS FILLED. THE COMMON PERSON IS NOT YOUR ENEMY …..THEY ARE THE ONES WHO HAS THE MAJORITY OF THE WEALTH AND THEIR APPETITES ARE NEVER SUFFICED. WHEN YOU ARE DESTINED TO CRAWL ON YOUR BELLY ALL THE DAYS OF YOUR LIFE AND HAVE THE EMPTY TASTE OF DUST FOR BREAKFAST, LUNCH, AND SUPPER, EVERYTHING WILL NOT BE ENOUGH,
      IT’S TIME TO KILL THE SNAKE.

    15. Hereward Says:

      My understanding is that most of the weapons being used by the Mexican drug gangs are functional military weapons — i. e. fully automatic — and are coming from sources unknown, with many coming through Central America, not the U. S. To blame Mexican problems on the 2nd Amendment is therefore a complete non sequitur. If every American citizen were disarmed, it would still have little to no impact on drug violence in Mexico.

      dennis gaudet Reply:

      the mexican goverment is saying theyre coming from here yet refuse to turn over any serial numbers so the weapons can be traced back to the source. sounds like bs to me.

    16. gravel kucinich paul nader Says:

      “HOMELAND”

      Nazi

    17. dan from ohio Says:

      well what will we do when they order new gun restrictions?I doubt much.It seems the American people have been programmed not to resist when Government dictates new laws against their rights.I hope I.m wrong,let the revolution begin…

    18. Mark Says:

      The gov pigs are pushing the envelope. I do not think anything will be done. They are already picking up the ones that make the most noise, no reaction yet! People are too fat, dumb and happy. No one will complain until they are years into the camps, then some will write books lamenting that they should have done something!!

    19. changedname Says:

      When it comes to”laws” being passed that illegally infringe on our constitutional rights we should NEVER comply! These laws are not legal and to put it in GWB’s words those words written on paper they call laws are nothing but a G**d**n piece of paper! We know that they can never be real laws so why comply? We have to uphold the true laws of the land or we lose them and our freedom!

    20. Gary B Says:

      O.K. Go ahead.. take all our guns – go right ahead. Then what will happen next is that the mexican drug cartels will still have machine guns, and will be using them on US soil. The next thing to happen will be … can anyone guess??? They will shoot back at the US cops shooting at them (and they will probably prevail). The Mexicans will kill off all the cops that get in their way, buy the rest of them out, and have a real stranglehold on a defensless American citizenry.

      GO RIGHT AHEAD… SEE WHAT HAPPENS.

      You shall reap as you have sown.

    21. skd Says:

      “out of my cold dead hands”

    22. skd Says:

      communism = j e w i s h invention

    23. Prospector Says:

      I say let’s give the NWO HELL FOR BREAKFAST!!!!!!!!!

    24. preparenow Says:

      Alert, Government is destroying once fired brass.

      Guns aren’t the only thing Obama is banning

      I believe this is a further attempt to limit the amount of ammo available to the people by ending the sale of once fired brass military to the civilian market.

      I know it may not make a difference but we need to try and stop this. At least let your congress critters know we want this stopped.

      http://www.jpfo.org/alerts03/alert20090313.htm

    25. Forced Freedom Says:

      This is proof that the people that are in the Government of what used to be America are INCOMPETENT and must be recalled ASAP!

      The problem I see is that the average person in America does NOT “PAYOFF” their Politicians so NOTHING is done until they meet with the LOBBY and get their fill of money and then they will bow to the wants and needs of them since they pay and we don’t, at least directly.

      This is just another STUPID attempt at stealing our means of protecting ourselves because they know that when they get our guns, we become their slaves almost overnight.

    26. Senator Craig Says:

      >>>>>>hey guys read here<<<<<<

      http://pencildicksvstheworld.b.....rearm.html

    27. thegaindeli Says:

      Yes!!! That means I don’t have to worry about my Wachovia Bank shutting down. We may need to think about legalizing some drugs to help pay down the deficit. I guess we could do a limited time experiment anyway? With the kind of money that drugs generate – of course there’s going to some agencies involved. I don’t do drugs so I’m not really worried about it. Everyone has the ability to make their own choices… Don’t blame the U.S. Government for individual drug problems!

    28. James Says:

      While I agree with the majority of the comments here I think we are missing the main point.
      The point is that the Constitution is the law of the land in the USA. And every elected person and military is sworn to uphold and protect it.
      If these people, (elected) fail to uphold and protect the constitution it is time to hold them accountable. Lets quite playing games and do what is right according to the law. (Constitution)
      The USA is a soverign country with its constitution to protect it. It should be enforced accordingly.
      What is appears is that the present goverment is playing the public for stupid. If the gun issue at the border was serious the border would be closed. To disarm the public is unconstitutional and dangerous.
      The bad thing about it is is that the american public is stupid and buys into it instead of holding these lawless turn coats accountable for breaking their sworn promise to uphold the constitution and protect america.
      Its pass time to start protecting our constituional laws.
      It is time to get organised. The goverment is already trainning troops and opening camps for anyone who dissagrees with it.
      If you are not organised with suffishent numbers better to stay out of sight and out of mind.
      For now hold your elected official accountable. Then we will see what happens.

      Ogg Reply:

      Not to go off-topic, but where is BoB’s birth certificate?

    29. T Says:

      The CIA runs drugs, wake up out there.

    30. wethepeople Says:

      waiting for the new revolution…
      are you ready?
      april 21st is as good as any,
      to take back ‘we the people’

    31. Wolfgang Says:

      The criminals in mexico dont need our semi auto weapons,they can buy all the fully automatic weapons they want from many countries around the worls…this is just another bogus bullshit attemp by homeland gestapo to snatch away our 2nd amendment right to own and bear arms…
      fuck you gestapo ..your not getting my firearms without a fight…you fuckers at dhs need to dust off a copy of the Constitution and read it…. your sworn to uphold and defend it..if you dont then you are all traitors and committing treason and should be arrested and put away…
      God save the Republic from scum like this…..

    32. Bobby Says:

      I often hear people calling Alex Jones a conspiracy theorist,etc. Then, you read stories like this, and so many others covered by Alex, and you start to think that the conspiracy is against him. Are Americans totally blind? These stories are actually admitted in the Main Stream Media. Does that make them more believable, when we have seen how the main stream media hides the truth from Americans on all kinds of issues like crime, illegal immigration, drug gangs, and government sanctioned racism against whites,etc. We live in a state of delusiion.

    33. Robert Says:

      Has anyone seen BHO’s birth certificate?

    34. Robert Says:

      I’ll keep my freedom
      I’ll keep my guns
      and on 4/15 I’ll keep my money, too
      You can keep the “change”


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