Comments on: Does Memory Reside Outside the Brain? http://www.prisonplanet.com/does-memory-reside-outside-the-brain.html Wed, 11 Nov 2009 08:47:26 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: ethan http://www.prisonplanet.com/does-memory-reside-outside-the-brain.html/comment-page-1#comment-170718 ethan Wed, 18 Feb 2009 14:31:07 +0000 http://www.prisonplanet.com/?p=1935#comment-170718 check out http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog, there is an article on the subject of memory and the brain. check out http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog, there is an article on the subject of memory and the brain.

]]> By: bizfixer http://www.prisonplanet.com/does-memory-reside-outside-the-brain.html/comment-page-1#comment-170108 bizfixer Wed, 18 Feb 2009 10:04:25 +0000 http://www.prisonplanet.com/?p=1935#comment-170108 BTW, if you ever wondered about whether you should bother to respond to an article or thread, let me say how much I enjoyed reading the well considered arguments on both sides. Thanks to all who posted. Thanks also to the author for the original article. It reaffirms my desire to protect the liberties we have: so that we may continue to enjoy the freedom to share ideas such as these. Freedom to all who care to defend it, Biz BTW, if you ever wondered about whether you should bother to respond to an article or thread, let me say how much I enjoyed reading the well considered arguments on both sides. Thanks to all who posted. Thanks also to the author for the original article.

It reaffirms my desire to protect the liberties we have: so that we may continue to enjoy the freedom to share ideas such as these.

Freedom to all who care to defend it,
Biz

]]> By: bizfixer http://www.prisonplanet.com/does-memory-reside-outside-the-brain.html/comment-page-1#comment-170099 bizfixer Wed, 18 Feb 2009 09:59:29 +0000 http://www.prisonplanet.com/?p=1935#comment-170099 It's amazing how profound we can be after smoking copious amounts of pot. It’s amazing how profound we can be after smoking copious amounts of pot.

]]> By: pootytang420 http://www.prisonplanet.com/does-memory-reside-outside-the-brain.html/comment-page-1#comment-33058 pootytang420 Thu, 04 Sep 2008 07:45:04 +0000 http://www.prisonplanet.com/?p=1935#comment-33058 It's amazing how much we do not know about ourselves. It’s amazing how much we do not know about ourselves.

]]> By: Bob http://www.prisonplanet.com/does-memory-reside-outside-the-brain.html/comment-page-1#comment-32957 Bob Thu, 04 Sep 2008 03:08:54 +0000 http://www.prisonplanet.com/?p=1935#comment-32957 The brain, as a whole prolly stores memory. Not in a computer sort of way, but in a billions of years of random evolution sort of way. The brain, as a whole prolly stores memory. Not in a computer sort of way, but in a billions of years of random evolution sort of way.

]]> By: Jeddy http://www.prisonplanet.com/does-memory-reside-outside-the-brain.html/comment-page-1#comment-32718 Jeddy Wed, 03 Sep 2008 20:14:45 +0000 http://www.prisonplanet.com/?p=1935#comment-32718 In this context how do if anything is real? A person who is prone to vertigo will fall to the ground and see the world spinning around him.He will fall if he tries to stand. The most amazing part of this is that ears determine what's up and what is down. So there certain functions which are not a part of the brain - the brain simply acts as processor. When we touch something, the feeling we get is in our hands, what we do not think about is that the information about what we touched went to the brain and came back and so we are made feel what it is, it is not a result of our hands. Our hands bio-mechanical constructs. Administer a powerful anaesthetic and we will not be able to feel anything at all, till the anaesthetic's effect is worn off. As for memory it is the same thing. We remember not because the brain enables to remember, the brain acts as processor of everything we have experienced, it does not explain it simply goes through a vast database and pop comes out the answer. For instance I am very bad in remembering faces and names - I meet someone find out his name and later I don't recall ever meeting him as soon as he leaves. Our memory is our entire body, all our emotions all our thoughts. If the brain were to store all that every second that goes by, just like a hard drive which crashes the same thing will happen to the brain. Supposing you hurt yourself, the pain will remain, the brain will continue sending back mesages that the body has been damaged. The feeling of pain is killed off with pain killers. So the contact with the brain is temporarily cut off. It is the job of the brain to inform no remember. Days later when the wound has healed and no one talks about then we brain sends a signal of some pain experience and it is our body responding to that experience putting all the facts together, some made and some true, it is the part of the body which is able to come up with the story - it has nothing to do with the brain. A horrible example is the story of amputees who feel their lost arm or leg is still with them, it is the brain playing tricks because it has not adjusted to a missing body part which it controlled. So memory is our entire body - the brain provides the required responses nothing more than that. Our entire body stores a great deal of information - that is why no one has been able to find any clue as to where store memory. In this context how do if anything is real? A person who is prone to vertigo will fall to the ground and see the world spinning around him.He will fall if he tries to stand. The most amazing part of this is that ears determine what’s up and what is down. So there certain functions which are not a part of the brain – the brain simply acts as processor. When we touch something, the feeling we get is in our hands, what we do not think about is that the information about what we touched went to the brain and came back and so we are made feel what it is, it is not a result of our hands. Our hands bio-mechanical constructs. Administer a powerful anaesthetic and we will not be able to feel anything at all, till the anaesthetic’s effect is worn off. As for memory it is the same thing. We remember not because the brain enables to remember, the brain acts as processor of everything we have experienced, it does not explain it simply goes through a vast database and pop comes out the answer. For instance I am very bad in remembering faces and names – I meet someone find out his name and later I don’t recall ever meeting him as soon as he leaves. Our memory is our entire body, all our emotions all our thoughts. If the brain were to store all that every second that goes by, just like a hard drive which crashes the same thing will happen to the brain. Supposing you hurt yourself, the pain will remain, the brain will continue sending back mesages that the body has been damaged. The feeling of pain is killed off with pain killers. So the contact with the brain is temporarily cut off. It is the job of the brain to inform no remember. Days later when the wound has healed and no one talks about then we brain sends a signal of some pain experience and it is our body responding to that experience putting all the facts together, some made and some true, it is the part of the body which is able to come up with the story – it has nothing to do with the brain.
A horrible example is the story of amputees who feel their lost arm or leg is still with them, it is the brain playing tricks because it has not adjusted to a missing body part which it controlled. So memory is our entire body – the brain provides the required responses nothing more than that. Our entire body stores a great deal of information – that is why no one has been able to find any clue as to where store memory.

]]> By: Rossn http://www.prisonplanet.com/does-memory-reside-outside-the-brain.html/comment-page-1#comment-32698 Rossn Wed, 03 Sep 2008 19:31:41 +0000 http://www.prisonplanet.com/?p=1935#comment-32698 James, if I were to guess I'd say that book is by Prof Stanislav Grof who has extensively studied the effects of LSD and so-called spiritual experiences. On one occasion a boy (although Grof perceived him as a ball of light) appeared to him in one of these controlled LSD sessions and gave his name as well as his mother's name, address and telephone number in Romania and asked if he would call her and tell her that her son was ok. After much agonising over some days Grof decided to call the number and gave the message to the stunned woman who started sobbing, explaining that her teenage son had died the week before. Ponder that for a while.... James, if I were to guess I’d say that book is by Prof Stanislav Grof who has extensively studied the effects of LSD and so-called spiritual experiences.
On one occasion a boy (although Grof perceived him as a ball of light) appeared to him in one of these controlled LSD sessions and gave his name as well as his mother’s name, address and telephone number in Romania and asked if he would call her and tell her that her son was ok. After much agonising over some days Grof decided to call the number and gave the message to the stunned woman who started sobbing, explaining that her teenage son had died the week before.
Ponder that for a while….

]]> By: James http://www.prisonplanet.com/does-memory-reside-outside-the-brain.html/comment-page-1#comment-32689 James Wed, 03 Sep 2008 19:14:04 +0000 http://www.prisonplanet.com/?p=1935#comment-32689 This is also an argument that could be used to support the existance of the human spirit and life after death.I first encountered this idea of the brain being comparable to a tv or radio in a book called ''LSD AND THE SEARCH FOR GOD''. I do not recall the author of that book.At that time I was looking for a way to argue rationaly for the exsistance of the supernatural.When I came across this comparison it then occoured to me that I had found that argument.Contrary to the teaching of certain people that when the physical brain dies so does concisnous,the brain is only the receptor and decoder of reality,both physical and spiritual.While we are in a physical plane of existance the brain acts as a mediator allowing us to function in that deminsion. Ultimatly it is erronious to say that the natural world and the supernatural are seperate.Both deminsions are intricatly linked together to form reality.The human brain is a vital part of that link.Also certain drugs and activities such as prayer act as catylysts that can more or less change the channels of the brain,either allowing us a stronger link to the spiritual deminsion or perhaps with certain drugs and behaviors weakening our ability to interact with the spiritual deminsion. This is also an argument that could be used to support the existance of the human spirit and life after death.I first encountered this idea of the brain being comparable to a tv or radio in a book called ”LSD AND THE SEARCH FOR GOD”. I do not recall the author of that book.At that time I was looking for a way to argue rationaly for the exsistance of the supernatural.When I came across this comparison it then occoured to me that I had found that argument.Contrary to the teaching of certain people that when the physical brain dies so does concisnous,the brain is only the receptor and decoder of reality,both physical and spiritual.While we are in a physical plane of existance the brain acts as a mediator allowing us to function in that deminsion.

Ultimatly it is erronious to say that the natural world and the supernatural are seperate.Both deminsions are intricatly linked together to form reality.The human brain is a vital part of that link.Also certain drugs and activities such as prayer act as catylysts that can more or less change the channels of the brain,either allowing us a stronger link to the spiritual deminsion or perhaps with certain drugs and behaviors weakening our ability to interact with the spiritual deminsion.

]]> By: ron heringhauser http://www.prisonplanet.com/does-memory-reside-outside-the-brain.html/comment-page-1#comment-32666 ron heringhauser Wed, 03 Sep 2008 18:04:16 +0000 http://www.prisonplanet.com/?p=1935#comment-32666 This makes a good case for reincarnation. This makes a good case for reincarnation.

]]> By: Gaetano http://www.prisonplanet.com/does-memory-reside-outside-the-brain.html/comment-page-1#comment-32584 Gaetano Wed, 03 Sep 2008 15:38:23 +0000 http://www.prisonplanet.com/?p=1935#comment-32584 The confusion comes from not understanding this basic pronciple. A human is a spiritual being residing in or near their body and they store their mind (mental images, memories etc,) next to them. that is how past life recall is possible. The memories travel with the spirit to the next life. And yes, the brain stores no memories but instead operates as a switchboard or conduit between the spirit and the body. The confusion comes from not understanding this basic pronciple. A human is a spiritual being residing in or near their body and they store their mind (mental images, memories etc,) next to them. that is how past life recall is possible. The memories travel with the spirit to the next life. And yes, the brain stores no memories but instead operates as a switchboard or conduit between the spirit and the body.

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