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Ex-FBI Agent: Why I Support a New 9/11 Investigation
Coleen Rowley
Raw Story
Wednesday, July 15, 2009
In the absence of my being there in New York City to stand with the 9/11 families, first responders and survivors, I offer the following statement in support of your goal of a new investigation into the attacks of September 11th and the NYC CAN campaign to place it on the ballot for November.
At the time of 9-11, I had been an FBI agent for over 20 years. My main responsibilities by then were teaching criminal procedure to FBI agents and other law enforcement officers, mostly about 4th Amendment search and seizure, 5th and 6th Amendment law of interrogation, right to attorney and constitutional protection of rights to “free speech”, due process, habeas corpus, and against cruel and unusual punishment. A week before 9-11, I and the rest of the FBI’s ethics instructors were mandated (as a result of an earlier public FBI scandal) to give a one hour PowerPoint presentation, a form of remedial training on “law enforcement ethics” which I accomplished in a fairly perfunctory way, just reading the slides.
After 9-11, with the knowledge I had of the bitter internal dispute inside the FBI that was being hushed up but had kept some of our better agents from possibly uncovering more of the 9-11 plot before it happened, I couldn’t forget two of the slides in that Law Enforcement ethics curriculum: “DO NOT: Puff, Shade, Tailor, Firm up, Stretch, Massage, or Tidy up statements of fact.” And “Misplaced Loyalties: As employees of the FBI, we must be aware that our highest loyalty is to the United States Constitution. We should never sacrifice the truth in order to obtain a desired result (e.g. conviction of a defendant) or to avoid personal or institutional embarrassment.”
The official dissembling and excuse-making about the true causes and prior mistakes that gave rise to and allowed the terrorist attacks to happen, almost immediately ushered in the Bush-Cheney Administration’s egregious and lawless, post 9-11 “war on terror” agenda which bore no connection to the original causes and no connection to the goal of reducing terrorism and making the world safer. When I got a chance, about 8 ½ months after 9-11 to tell what I knew, I did so and my disclosures led to further investigation by the Department of Justice Inspector General and figured in the 9-11 Commission Report.
But it was way too late for this emerging bit of truth that has continued to leak out in dribs and drabs to have any impact. The laws themselves, especially the criminal procedure ones rooted in the Constitution that I had spent my career teaching to law enforcement, have largely gone up in smoke. Having seen the cost of remaining silent, I publicly warned, a few months after my first memo, against launching the pre-emptive invasion of Iraq. But false agendas had already filled the vacuum created by lack of truth. And we are still dealing with the disastrous consequences of these unjustified, pre-emptive wars.
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Let me therefore simply repeat the request I made to the Senate Judiciary Committee in June 2002: “Foremost, we owe it to the public, especially the victims of terrorism, to be completely honest. I can only imagine what these crime and terrorism victims continue to go through. They deserve nothing but the complete, unfettered truth.”
Therefore, I fully support the 9/11 families, first responders, survivors and over 60,000 other New Yorkers who have endorsed a new 9/11 investigation in New York City as advanced by ballot referendum this coming November election.
Coleen Rowley is a former FBI staff attorney who turned whistle-blower after witnessing repeated failures within the bureau to properly investigate alleged 9/11 co-conspirator Zacarias Moussaoui. She was one of three Time Magazine Persons of the Year in 2002.
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July 15th, 2009 at 6:26 am
Wow! The FBI as it used to be…gotta love ‘em.
July 15th, 2009 at 6:50 am
There are always a few good apples in every basket.
July 15th, 2009 at 7:36 am
Coleen is also the person who warned the FBI terrorists were taking flying lessons in Arizona but the people above her did not heed her warnings! The upper echelon of the FBI could learn from a simple saying that has been passed down in human history…”Pride goeth before fall” Way to go Coleen, we love you for your honesty and determination. Don’t stop seeking the truth….
July 15th, 2009 at 7:44 am
1) She in NO WAY thinks 9/11 was an inside job
2) Yeah she worked at the FBI but she had NOTHING to do with terrorism.
3) She has an ethics complaint, not “it was an inside job” complaint.
4)Just because you have a security clearance, TS in here case, doesn’t mean you get to see everything TS. You have to have a need to know. Everything she is speculating on she knows from the media and here say. She doesn’t know the whole story..
Just like you guys
Truthteller Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 7:53 am
Again, like you I totally trust the FBI. they have been caught lying too, but I dont care. Blind obedience. Its bliss. Only super secret military men like you know the whole story. Well, even if you dont the CIA and other intelligence people who outrank you totally wouldnt lie so you can trust them. I know you will.
reconmarine Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 10:26 am
did i say I totally trust the FBI? NO.
I support another investigation into 9/11
I was just stating the facts before you guys completely distort them
Truthteller Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 10:39 am
Woah man, im on your side! I trust the official story as well! I dont care if the 9/11 Commissioners are compromised people either! I mean, you have Lee Hamilton who helped contain Iran-Contra(and helped many criminals like NOrth,Bush etc. escape jail), he helped contain watergate and other major crimes, and you have Ben Veniste who likewise was involved in numerous cover-ups and containments of scandals/crimes by the powerful, but do we care? No! the 9/11 commission confirms what we FEEL. And thats what matters. You are the man.
The real reconmarine Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 3:11 pm
Mockery to hide a real reply.
Not a new tactic, but very telling of your collective inability to logically discuss this topic.
Truthteller Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 5:10 pm
Mockery? No sir, I mean every word I say. This is how people see us. Sorry to break it to you.
duh Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 8:16 am
And just like yourself you do NOT know the full story.
The real reconmarine Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 3:12 pm
I never said i know the entire story, but Ive researched it quite a bit and confident in what i know and my sources.
Im also big enough to admit when Im wrong or if i dont know something.
Genius Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 9:46 am
I know reconmarine and I can assure you that he is a CherryMarine and into things that would make a sexual deviant blush, perhaps he needs to work faster or else we release certain videotapes we have in our possession, get to work Son there are too many people asking questions!
The real reconmarine Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 3:13 pm
Nobody on PP knows me personally.
A cherry marine? Whats that? a Boot or a fagot? Either way, not the case. But you keep talking about me and not the subject.
CherryMarine Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 6:17 pm
Hey baby, you done with those 9/11 homophobes yet?
Tell them to fuck off baby, then come to bed.
LRRP 1968 Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 2:43 pm
So the ethics complain has ot do with her thinking that the investigation was unethical? Why in the world would the FBI run an investigation that would alert someone concerned with ethics?
Why would anyone be afraid of a new investigation?
If you have nothing to hide then you have nothing to worry about, right?
The real reconmarine Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 3:29 pm
People covering up things about 9/11 is illegal and it all should be disclosed.
Certain aspects are confidential for good reasons, but NONE of what was covered up was to cover up 9/11 being an inside job.
Anyone who thinks 9/11 was a controlled demolition and/or a total fake attack made to look like Al Qaeda has no idea the implications of their accusations. The ability for the US gov to keep something of this size secret is completely unrealistic and you only have to look within prison planet archives to find the hundreds of articles showing how the gov couldn’t keep much smaller illegal things secret. EVERY SINGLE TIME, good people, like Coleen Rowley, blow a whistle. Op Northwoods, USS Liberty, etc, etc.
We can’t even dump a bucket of water on a terrorists head on a small military controlled island in Cuba, but you think 9/11 could be planned for a period of over 25 years and kept secret from everyone, including our enemies?
YEAH RIGHT.
All of that combined with the fact all of the “evidence” showing a supposed controlled demolition, inside job, remote controlled planes, pentagon missile, etc are easily debunked, it proves your theories are bullshit.
Yesterday PP had an article about how China is resisting the supposed NWO. If thats the case, which you guys say it is. then that further proves 9/11 wasn’t an inside job. The Chinese would never allow the US to do 9/11, loosing trillions in weapons sales and watching their economy drop like a lead balloon. It would be the perfect opportunity for the Chinese to get ahead of the US in the super power race. All they would have to do is out us for 9/11 and we would be done with. No shots fired.
Instead, they standby watching us arm and fund Taiwan, intervene in their internal struggles with pollution and human rights and deflate the RMB in its global stance. Yeah right…..
T. R. Eddy Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 5:20 pm
Reckon they will ever investigate the huge upsurge in short sales of the airlines involved just days before 9/11? They promised one as did the German government. To date? Nothing. There was even a twenty million dollar profit left standing in one account. Now, if it had been Osama and company doing the short sales it would have been all over the news. Obviously it was someone they don’t want you to know about. Hmmmm, now who could it be? I have my suspicions but lacking an investigation who knows?
mn Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 5:35 pm
Buzzy Krongard. Google him Eddy. Ex-CIA whos company handled the put options.
LRRP 1968 Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 5:56 pm
I’m just wondering how you are so sure of all this? What information do you have that no one else seems to be aware of?
LRRP 1968 Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 5:58 pm
They managed to keep Operation Paperclip secret for 40 years with tens of thousands involved.
You can easily keep something secret that only a couple of hundred people or less know about. If you were involved would YOU have blown the whistle?
LRRP 1968 Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 2:45 pm
So you are certain she doesn’t think it’s an inside job. What else did she tell you when you talked to her?
The real reconmarine Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 3:29 pm
Did i say that?>
Are you just making up shit again to avoid responding to the topic?
LRRP 1968 Reply:
July 16th, 2009 at 5:09 am
NO, you are. You made a definitive statement with nothing whatsoever to back it up with. You made statement on the belief of the agent, you made that statement not as an “I think” or “probably”. Unless she addressed that directly in her statement – she didn’t – you have no way to know this, yet you make a definitive statement as if it was fact. As you always do.
I have been reviewing your posts and virtually every you say constitutes your opinion based on someone else’s opinion.
July 15th, 2009 at 8:53 am
Re: The real reconmarine who says:
July 15th, 2009 at 7:44 am
1) She in NO WAY thinks 9/11 was an inside job
Unless you know this women you have no way of knowing if she beleives it was an inside job or not. There is nothing in the article that states she beleives it was an inside job. . .and it matters not if she beleive it or not. . .that is irrelevant. What is relevant is that she supports a new investigations by an independent council. If this happens than perhaps we will find out if it was an inside job or not.
reconmarine Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 10:27 am
she was interviewed by Tom Hartman on Air America and he asked her..
Listen to it retard
Truthteller Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 10:40 am
Yeah tard! Because if this woman doesnt think there was some sort of inside involvement, then shes the final word!
The real reconmarine Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 3:31 pm
I didnt say that, Im saying what she has stated publicly to prevent you tards from lying about her stance on 9/11, attempting top turn her into a truther, which she is clearly not.
My point with that is, if she was concerned with ethics, then she would be super fucking pissed about MASS MURDER. She hasn’t said shit about that other then she knows Al Qaeda did 9/11
Truthteller Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 5:14 pm
Im agreeing with you! Calm down! You and I know “al qaeda: did it, some questionable “Bin Laden” tapes say so, the #2 guy in “al qaeda”(who is it this month? Is it still “former” British intelligence asset Al Zawahiri?) said so, the government said so, our pathetic media said so, and thats good enough for us! God, isnt “al qaeda’ terrifying? Arabs are so scary right? Better support the war profiteers so they will keep us safe! I know you will….
The real reconmarine Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 7:47 pm
Truthteller (yeah right)
if you think the last 25 years of the worlds collective intelligence agencies and operatives have all been apart of this massive secret, then you go ahead and keep thinking that. You are clearly unable of logical thought and have been damaged by conspiratorial bullshit.
Everything YOU know is because your conspiracy theory websites have told you.
I’ve been there, face to face with terrorist, there not CIA operatives or fake. i know people at the tip of the spear fighting these cocksuckers. I would love to see you get beat down to the ground after telling them they are fighting a fake war.
Over here in reality, NOTHING would stop the worlds elite warriors from bringing the fight to the front door of everyone your theories implicate, if those theories were more then just wild unsubstantiated bullshit. You can keep being a smart ass and hide behind your computer screen like a little child, but your theories are almost all lies, your a disgrace to America and those that protect it.
You sit on a conspiracy theory website that blames the US government fro 9/11 and talk about how your freedoms are being eroded.
If you aren’t able to reply to me in a logical manner, then it should be clear as day why nobody takes you or your fellow conspiracy theorists serious. YOUR AFRAID.
Think about it. Everyone here bashes me all day, saying Im wrong YET NOBODY has taken me up on my offer to debate…..Hmmmmmmm
whack-a-troll Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 11:14 pm
You spend nearly every waking hour of your life trolling this message board trying to be a thorn in Alex Jones’ side. Why don’t you call up his show already and really show us what you’re made of? Tell the screener that you’re the legendary re-con marine and that you have been to the mountaintop and you will easily debunk all his theories. I’m sure you’ll get right to the front of the queue. I doubt you’ll do it because you know you’ve got nothing except the usual fistful of talking points and feigned righteous indignation. I know you’ve got big dreams. You probably think you’re going to be the next Hannity or Rush. The truth is you’ll never amount to even a pimple on Alex Jones’ ass. You’ve got no game. Sorry, but that’s the truth of it.
July 15th, 2009 at 9:05 am
She sounds like a real Patriot to me – God Bless Her!
July 15th, 2009 at 12:28 pm
great job
thank you FBI agent
July 15th, 2009 at 1:10 pm
Wonder if we will find out about the ” false Flag” maneuevers in the S.W. region termed #5 by FEMA /H/S- NEL 09 July 27-31–Also the new Gun Legislation HR 45 and the SB 2099 attached to an IRS provision tells me the Government is running scared of the fact that the public has taken down 1.5 billion rounds of Ammo-They should be scared, that is good, even the use of foreign troops to do their “Crowd Control ” studies (they were afraid to use US troops as that did not go very well before (2X) I don’t think the US people will be happy campers with Brits, Aussies, Mexican, Canadians in large numbers -pushing around citizens and looking for weapons-( sort of sounds like Nazi Germany “37 before the “eugenics” practiced by Hitler- Hmmmm these guys are also for eugenics…….
July 15th, 2009 at 1:24 pm
Long time ago FBI killed US citizen John Dillinger and made him immortal outlow hero – in books and films
but FBI didn’t kill any of Osama Bin Laden US business partners.
July 15th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
It doesn’t matter what anyone’s personal opinions and feelings one way or another regarding the collapsing of the WTC buildings.
The buildings fell in a way that totally contradicted the laws of physics as per the official government explanation. Since the laws of physics can’t be wrong, then the official government explanation must be wrong.
What this woman thinks or feels about 9-11 are completely irrelevant. Personal opinions and feelings can not and do not replace scientific facts. If a veteran professional like her can’t see that the actual scientific facts don’t match to the supposed “scientific” explanation provided by NIST, then something is seriously wrong. Cognitive dissonance?
Neither NY city nor NY state nor federal police agencies have made any effort to investigate as to why the facts don’t match up with the official explanation as to why the buildings fell. This is extremely odd.
The real reconmarine Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 3:33 pm
Steve-
If you only watch 911 truth films, then of course you will think that way.
NOTHING about the way the towers collapsed defied the laws of physics or anything other scientific reality. Keep drinking the truther koolaid though…….
Steve Williams Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 4:24 pm
Bwahahaha!
1. Jim Jones used Flavoraid, not Koolaid. The phrase “drinking the koolaid” keeps being used even though it’s not correct. The correct idiomatic phrase should be “drinking the flavoraid”. Toss in the word “grape” if you want to be more technical.
2. My field of expertise is sub-sub-sub-quantum physics. And I’m very extremely aware of what the laws of physics are and how they come to be. And what they do at both the micro and macro levels. At all levels of existence, the law of cause and effect operates in the exact same way. Kinetic energy provided by gravity couldn’t have possibly caused the buildings to literally vaporize, therefore some other agent provided the vaporization energy.
I can write down the equations that describe how everything fractalizes from an extremely tiny point out of the Uniform Field. Can you? If you can, please do so. Although, expect me to correct you if you do it wrong. My OCD of being an annoying perfectionist doesn’t permit me to tolerate wrong answers.
I’ve long been both repulsed and morbidly amused by you. I know you’re a troll, a shill, a deliberate disinfo agent whether self-appointed or working for someone else. I’m curious as to which you are. The level of ignorance you display is an obvious put on as no one could possibly be that damn totally stupid, so what’s your real intention and goal?
The real reconmarine Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 8:11 pm
Steve-
Im not gonna pretend to be quantum physicist, but Ive got a firm grip on reality.
Of the 200 some experts, physicists included (more qualified then yourself) that NIST used to look at the thousands of pictures and videos (most of which you and I have not seen) NONE of them think that the collapse of any of the WTC buildings defied any laws of physics. 125 of them were from Non government groups. The world leading engineering schools, forensic experts, etc. Basically, the worlds leading structural engineers, building collapse forensic experts, PHYSICISTS, etc.
Why do you think NONE of them agree with you?
You know Im a troll? Really? Because Im able to debunk all the conspiracy theories you spew on a daily basis? Writing me off as an “agent” is a cop out and something many here do as a way of not having to admit they are playing a big game of make beleive. If im so dumb, why dont you debate me on the radio and we can later post the links here and on youtube. You can email me at brownjj0@hotmail.com
The buildings didn’t “vaporize”. That is ridiculous. If you think the thousands of tons of concrete should have stayed in tact as each acre of concrete and steel landed on it like some weird cartoon, then the answer to why a so called “sub-sub-sub quantum physics” experts is trolling conspiracy theory websites talking about a subject you clearly don’t know anything about or are being clouded by your whack political view is understandable.
The fact that the collapse of the world trade centers are the most studied building collapses in the history of the world, and NONE of the peer reviewed papers have shown any evidence or signs implying a controlled demolition or that some external factors were involved in the towers falling, is sufficient for me. BUT, since your a self described expert, maybe you should introduce your own theory, and maybe it will be the first in the world to pass peer review showing the towers collapse was something other then what the worlds leading experts all have agreed on already….
Good luck with that.
. Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 5:15 pm
Keep drinking the neocon and MSM kool-aid.
LRRP 1968 Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 5:59 pm
They did defy physics but you ignore that when I presented the rationale.
The real reconmarine Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 8:11 pm
and the experts just missed this?
. Reply:
July 16th, 2009 at 4:42 am
NO, the experts didnt. NIST has how many? 50 at most?(but their aides! lol) And they all get checks from the Gov? AE911truth has 700. Checkmate.
LRRP 1968 Reply:
July 16th, 2009 at 5:13 am
“and the experts just missed this?”
Probably not. They just failed to mention it. Which is why I am so suspicious at the whole thing.
How about posting a link to the 125 experts and who they are. For some strange reason I am unable to locate a list.
Steve Williams Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 8:10 pm
@ real reconmarine
NOW you’ve REALLY managed piss me off! After I had made the previous above reply to you, I got to thinking about it and how what an ignorant putz you are and I no doubt was completely wasting my time replying to you, the answer to something that had been puzzling me for quite sometime just popped into my mind. I had previously figured out the equation which caused the Uniform Field to start fractalizing, but I couldn’t figure out how the fractals could “know” what to create at more macro levels. But because of you, I finally knew the answer: the direction of fractalization.
Draw a point on a sheet of paper. Draw short two lines sprouting from that point. Draw a point on the ends of those two lines, and then draw two short lines sprouting from them, and so on and so forth. 1 becomes 2, 2 becomes 4, 4 becomes 8, 8 becomes 16, etc, etc.
Information is being conveyed what to create at more macro levels by what directions the two lines are sprouting out of the point. Change the direction of the sprouting and different information is being conveyed. Since at this level of smallness, spacetime doesn’t yet exist, so instead of there being 360 degrees of possible direction, there are infinite degrees of possible direction. Which mean there are infinite possibilities of different information.
I don’t yet know if these points are spinning, but if they are, then their direction of spin will also have some sort of information expression. But mostly, the information is conveyed by the direction of fractalization.
I have a very strict sense of science ethics:
1. Do no harm.
2. I must do things as absolutely correctly as possible for me to do so at the moment.
3. I must always give credit where credit is due. If I use someone else’s work to get get me where I got to, then I must say so. If someone else enabled me to accomplish something, then I must say so.
So, even though it absolutely pisses me off to do so, I must give credit to you in helping to accomplish one of the most important and crucial things ever done in physics. While your contribution wasn’t done in exactly the most dignified of ways, it was done. Therefore, the credit is yours and by some truly bizarre and twilight zone twist of fate, you are now in physics history. While others may find this all very hilarious, things are as they are. If I hadn’t been steaming about what an ignorant putz you are, things would have been a lot different. It might have taken me months or years to figure out how information was being conveyed if you hadn’t been part of the process.
Sigh… so yes, for this particular moment and for this particular circumstance, you get to use the I’m-so-cool emoticon.
Ha! The aliens who have been buzzing our planet with their spacecraft may be currently more technically advanced than we are, but I’ll just bet dollars to donuts that they don’t know what we now know. The fact that they’re still using spacecraft at all to travel from one system to another indicates they don’t. Not that there’s anything wrong with using a spacecraft as an RV or science platform, of course. But mostly, a spaceship for transportation is just so yesterday. A primitive anachronism.
July 15th, 2009 at 3:03 pm
sigh… typo…
Insert the word “are” between “feelings” and “one way” in the first sentence. One of these daze, I’ll actually learn to master the art of writing.
July 15th, 2009 at 6:17 pm
will the Real Real Real Reconmarine please stand up….
I think if I wanted to be taken seriously on this particular forum, I would change my screen name. Just throwing that out there…
Steve Williams Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 7:17 pm
The real reconmarine, or at least the original one, is pretty distinctive. I usually can tell which is original by the distinctive ignoramous putziness displayed and the total obtuseness to anything that’s even vaguely close to reality.
Although, I do find the masqueraders hilarious sometimes. Reconmarine has groupies. Hmph. Apparently, I’m not considered important enough to have groupies…
The real reconmarine Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 8:13 pm
well since people are afraid and unwilling to debate me or address the topic, they have to pretend they are me, in attempt to discredit me.
Maybe Ill change my screen name
Why is everyone so afraid?
July 16th, 2009 at 1:19 am
Thank you for your courage,Coleen!
July 16th, 2009 at 1:57 am
hey you piece of shit,why would someone debate complete and total absurdity.You twist everything up to your advantage.It`s like debating with a five year old.You have stained your consciousness up to a point that you will probably be reborn as a shit fly.Born in shit and destined to wallow in the shitstem life after life until you learn that kerosene CAN NOT melt steel.You pathetic little shit fly.Now fly away to another pile of shit before I crush you.I think it was che guevara that said this once “I envy you in america,for it is you who live in the belly of the beast that will fight the ultimate battle”
July 16th, 2009 at 2:33 am
Recon,
You are a legend. These chumps can consider themselves debunked.
July 16th, 2009 at 2:35 am
best thing about this is that she doesn’t even support the (non)Truth movement. lol
You chumps are eating this shit up
The Real reconmarine Reply:
July 16th, 2009 at 4:40 am
Does my dick taste good?
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