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  • Federal agents hunt for guns, one house at a time

    DANE SCHILLER
    Houston Chronicle
    Wednesday, July 1, 2009

    In front of a run-down shack in north Houston, federal agents step from a government sedan into 102-degree heat and face a critical question: How can the woman living here buy four high-end handguns in one day? The house is worth $35,000. A screen dangles by a wall-unit air conditioner. Porch swing slats are smashed, the smattering of grass is flattened by cars and burned yellow by sun.

    “I’ll do the talking on this one,” agent Tim Sloan, of South Carolina, told partner Brian Tumiel, of New York.

    (ARTICLE CONTINUES BELOW)

    Federal agents hunt for guns, one house at a time 250509BANNER

    Success on the front lines of a government blitz on gunrunners supplying Mexican drug cartels with Houston weaponry hinges on logging heavy miles and knocking on countless doors. Dozens of agents from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives — sent here from around the country — are needed to follow what ATF acting director Kenneth Melson described as a “massive number of investigative leads.” All told, Mexican officials in 2008 asked federal agents to trace the origins of more than 7,500 firearms recovered at crime scenes in Mexico. Most of them were traced back to Texas, California and Arizona.

    Among other things, the agents are combing neighborhoods and asking people about suspicious purchases as well as seeking explanations as to how their guns ended up used in murders, kidnappings and other crimes in Mexico.

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    53 Responses to “Federal agents hunt for guns, one house at a time”

    1. Gary S Says:

      You wonder if these traitors ever consider that their bosses are the biggest arms dealers in the world? Do they ever wonder how many guns, bombs, vehicles etc the US government sells to terrorist nations like Israel? Do they even know or care that the same bosses are the ones shipping in the drugs and thus the backbone of the drug cartels?

      I guess when you’re in law enforcement, thinking is not required.

      CivilianResistance Reply:

      well, i would tell them the following if they were to knock on MY door and ask me these same questions: Well “officer” my only reply to your question would be stating the Mexican drug cartel/munitions investigation report was considered incomplete by the GAO. Second, only 17% of arms and munitions that were confiscated from Mexican cartels were linked to the US. So I recommend you go “investigate yourself” and if your wondering what i mean by that, it means to go “fuck yourself!” (Thus I slamming my door in their face)

      rik thomas Reply:

      the problem is. these guys have turned the whole forces into traitors.
      but we have to be smart and actively remove the bad apples. actively.
      that eventually may hearten any non-demons left.

    2. Morgan Says:

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    3. me Says:

      if they really want to stop all of the drug cartels the only solution would be to legalize drugs. but hey uncle sam hates competition. and what sense would that make all of our children and ourselves would be hooked drugs they would be just to available. we know prohibition doesnt work.

      Tom Reply:

      Since the CIA is the biggest drug dealer in the world, stopping the flow of drugs into the U.S. will be impossible. It’s also the biggest money maker, which, during tough money times like these, still makes tons of moolah for the dealers. The number of traitors and people supporting the drug trade outnumber those of us who would stop it, especially at that high level. What an insidious way to steal guns; one house at a time will work since the Illuminati have nothing but time on their side. And you’re right about prohibition – it doesn’t work. Especially when the agency(s) that are supposed to stop it not only don’t stop it, but actually help the other side instead….

    4. jack rabbit Says:

      Read Orwell’s 1984 – yes – go get a copy and read it! The guards in 1984 carried “truncheons” – ours carry automatic rifles.

    5. asshole Says:

      asshole Reply:
      June 19th, 2009 at 5:04 pm

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDkhzHQO7jY ….. George Carlin – We Like War

      In Context: US Military Spending Versus Rest of the World

      When the US Fiscal Year 2009 budget request for military spending came out in early 2008, Travis Sharp and Christopher Hellman (mentioned earlier) projected the spending of other nations planned for 2008 thus allowing comparison between US military spending and the rest of the world:

      * Pie chart
      * Comparing US with others
      * Top spenders ranked (and sources)

      Pie chart

      Comparing US with others

      In other words,

      * US military spending accounts for 48 percent, or almost half, of the world’s total military spending
      * US military spending is more than the next 46 highest spending countries in the world combined
      * US military spending is 5.8 times more than China, 10.2 times more than Russia, and 98.6 times more than Iran.
      * US military spending is almost 55 times the spending on the six “rogue” states (Cuba, Iran, Libya, North Korea, Sudan and Syria) whose spending amounts to around $13 billion, maximum. (Tabulated data does not include four of the six, as the data only lists nations that have spent over 1 billion in the year, so their budget is assumed to be $1 billion each)
      * US spending is more than the combined spending of the next 45 countries.
      * The United States and its strongest allies (the NATO countries, Japan, South Korea and Australia) spend $1.1 trillion on their militaries combined, representing 72 percent of the world’s total.
      * The six potential “enemies,” Russia, and China together account for about $205 billion or 29% of the US military budget.

      Top spenders ranked (and sources)
      Military spending in 2008 ($ Billions, and percent of total)Country Dollars (billions) % of total Rank

      Source: U.S. Military Spending vs. the World, Center for Arms Control and Non-Proliferation, February 22, 2008
      Notes:

      * The figure for the United States is the budget request for Fiscal Year 2009 and includes $170 billion for ongoing military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan, as well as funding for the Department of Energy’s nuclear weapons activities.
      * All other figures are projections based on 2006, the last year for which accurate data is available.
      * All countries that spent over one billion per year are listed.
      * Due to rounding, some percentages may be slightly off.

      If you are viewing this table on another site, please see http://www.globalissues.org/ar…..y-spending for further details.
      United States 711 48.28% 1
      China 121.9 8.28% 2
      Russia 70 4.75% 3
      United Kingdom 55.4 3.76% 4
      France 54 3.67% 5
      Japan 41.1 2.79% 6
      Germany 37.8 2.57% 7
      Italy 30.6 2.08% 8
      Saudi Arabia 29.5 2.00% 9
      South Korea 24.6 1.67% 10
      India 22.4 1.52% 11
      Australia 17.2 1.17% 12
      Brazil 16.2 1.10% 13
      Canada 15 1.02% 14
      Spain 14.4 0.98% 15
      Turkey 11.6 0.79% 16
      Israel 11 0.75% 17
      Netherlands 9.9 0.67% 18
      United Arab Emirates 9.5 0.65% 19
      Taiwan 7.7 0.52% 20
      Greece 7.3 0.50% 21
      Iran 7.2 0.49% 22
      Myanmar 6.9 0.47% 23
      Singapore 6.3 0.43% 24
      Poland 6.2 0.42% 25
      Sweden 5.8 0.39% 26
      Colombia 5.4 0.37% 27
      Chile 4.7 0.32% 28
      Belgium 4.4 0.30% 29
      Egypt 4.3 0.29% 30
      Pakistan 4.2 0.29% 31
      Denmark 3.9 0.26% 32
      Indonesia 3.6 0.24% 33
      Switzerland 3.5 0.24% 34
      Kuwait 3.5 0.24% 35
      South Africa 3.5 0.24% 36
      Oman 3.3 0.22% 37
      Malaysia 3.2 0.22% 38
      Mexico 3.2 0.22% 39
      Portugal 3.1 0.21% 40
      Algeria 3.1 0.21% 41
      Finland 2.8 0.19% 42
      Austria 2.6 0.18% 43
      Venezuela 2.6 0.18% 44
      Czech Republic 2.5 0.17% 45
      Romania 2.3 0.16% 46
      Qatar 2.3 0.16% 47
      Thailand 2.3 0.16% 48
      Morocco 2.2 0.15% 49
      Argentina 1.9 0.13% 50
      Ukraine 1.7 0.12% 51
      Cuba 1.7 0.12% 52
      Angola 1.6 0.11% 53
      New Zealand 1.5 0.10% 54
      Hungary 1.3 0.09% 55
      Ireland 1.1 0.07% 56
      Jordan 1.1 0.07% 57
      Peru 1.1 0.07% 58
      North Korea n/a n/a 59
      Global Total (not all countries shown): 1,472.7 100% n/a

      Why does the US number seem so high when the budget announced $517.9 for the Department of Defense?

      Unfortunately, the budget numbers can be a bit confusing. For example, the Fiscal Year budget requests for US military spending do not include combat figures (which are supplemental requests that Congress approves separately). The budget for nuclear weapons falls under the Department of Energy, and for the 2009 request, was about $29 billion.

      The cost of war (Iraq and Afghanistan) is estimated to be about $170 billion for the 2009 spending alone. Christopher Hellman and Travis Sharp also discuss the US fiscal year 2009 Pentagon spending request and note that “Congress has already approved nearly $700 billion in supplemental funding for operations in Iraq and Afghanistan and an additional $126 billion in FY’08 war funding is still pending before the House and Senate.”

      Furthermore, other costs such as care for veterans, health care, military training/aid, secret operations, may fall under other departments or be counted separately.

      http://www.globalissues.org/ar…..rySpending

      AHAHAHHAHA TOUCHE

    6. asshole Says:

      Kurt Vonnegut “Primary Description of “Government” :”Government” is a granfalloon, a scam, a hoax, a fraud, a swindle, a theatrical tragicomedy, and a form of parasitism or cannibalism kept in place by certain fraud-words, by superstition, by idolatry, by gullibility, by lack of thinking skills, by brainwashing, by mass hallucination, by terror, and by violence — also characterized by compulsive lying, economic rape and value destruction, serial killing, war mongering, mass murder, quackery of the deadliest kind, primitive “alpha-ape” behavior, and the abuse of hierarchical systems.”

      Jim Lunsford Reply:

      Hey Asshole! On a dz (for skydivers) that is always shouted out for everyone around to say “what”. Thought I’d share. Anyway, I loved vonnegut. That quote is typical of him, and today it goes on my facebook. Thanks, Jim

      rik thomas Reply:

      RIP kurt…
      there are a few of us here old enuf to have learned to read.
      you were a great singer :)

      a worthy successor to the great samuel clemens
      he was a great dancer…

      hey just tryint to educate the kids….

    7. wayne kahler Says:

      I’m happy with any kind of action that the FBI can take. I want to be able to go into Mexico since
      it is so close to me. We MUST protect our border cities

      generajones4u Reply:

      HOLD IT——– Why dont you arm yourself and grow a pair of balls instead of putting off things on someone else claiming your happy that BATFaggets and FBI are raiding peoples houses because they bought firearms when it is a known FACT that cartels and criminals in Mexico carry fully automatic weapons, rocket launchers, and grenades that are shipped up from Central America and elsewhere. Then u say “we MUST” protect are border cities????…………Get your head out of the sand, buy an AK47, and quit BITCHING. I hope you realize reality and notice that the cartels are running freely up and down the border while BATFaggets and FBI are busy in Houston pissing on peoples rights. NEXT time vote with your wallet, buy a firearm, and read the Constitution.

    8. asshole Says:

      “Constitution” as a One-Word Lie
      “There never did, there never will, and there never can exist a parliament, or any description of men, or any generation of men, in any country, possessed of the right or the power of binding and controlling posterity to the ‘end of time,’ or of commanding for ever how the world shall be governed, or who shall govern it; and therefore, all such clauses, acts, or declarations, by which the makers of them attempt to do what they have neither the right nor the power to do, nor the power to execute, are in themselves null and void. Every age and generation must be as free to act for itself, in all cases, as the ages and generations which preceded it. The vanity and presumption of governing beyond the grave, is the most ridiculous and insolent of all tyrannies… Every generation is, and must be, competent to all the purposes which its occasions require. It is the living, and not the dead, that are to be accommodated.”

      – Thomas Paine, Rights of Man

      In his pamphlet, ‘No Treason: The Constitution of No Authority,’ attorney (one of the few good ones) Lysander Spooner wrote in 1870:

      “The constitution has no inherent authority or obligation. It has no authority or obligation at all, unless as a contract between man and man. And it does not so much as even purport to be a contract between persons now existing. It purports at most, to be only a contract between persons living eighty years ago… we know, historically, that only a small portion of the people then existing were consulted on the subject, or asked, or permitted to express either their consent or dissent in any formal manner. Those people, if any, who did give their consent formally, are all dead now… and the constitution, so far as it was their contract, died with them. They had no natural power or right to make it obligatory upon their children… they did not even attempt to bind them. That is to say, the instrument does not purport to be an agreement between anybody but “the people” then existing; nor does it… assert any right, power, or disposition, on their part, to bind anybody but themselves…

      The constitution itself, then, being of no authority, on what authority does our government practically rest? On what ground can those who pretend to administer it, claim the right to seize men’s property, to restrain them in their natural liberty of action, industry and trade, and to kill all those who deny their authority to dispose of men’s properties, liberties and lives at their pleasure or discretion?”

      When I first read Spooner’s pamphlet it was an assault on my whole knowledge structure. It triggered a process of questioning many concepts: “Constitution” (so-called) — what does this word represent in reality? If Spooner was right, then it represented but an empty fraud. It also meant that words did not necessarily correspond with reality. There were “fraud-words” which served only to mislead. And if there is no valid “constitution,” then what does the word “country” mean? What does it really represent? Similar questions followed about “government,” “state,” “king,” “law,” etc. In the Introduction by James J. Martin to Spooner’s “No Treason” I read:

      “Since late Neolithic times, men in their political capacity, have lived almost exclusively by myths [more appropriate: "fraudulent fabrications" or "murderous misrepresentations!"] And these political myths have continued to evolve, proliferate, and grow more complex and intricate, even though there has been a steady replacement of one by another over the centuries. A series of entirely theoretical constructs, sometimes mystical, usually deductive and speculative, they seek to explain the status and relationships in the community…

      It is the assault upon the abstract and verbal underpinnings of this institution which draws blood, so to speak… those who attack the rationale of the game… are its most formidable adversaries.”

      Spooner also attacked words and phrases like “the government,” “our country,” “the United States,” “member of congress,” “King,” “constitution of the United States,” “nations,” “the people,” “emperor,” “divine right,” “president,” “monarch,” “ambassador,” “national debt,” “senator,” “judge,” etc. He implied that these were all fraud-words to dupe the gullible. In a letter to Thomas F. Bayard, Spooner wrote:

      “In practice, the constitution has been an utter fraud from the beginning. Professing to have been ‘ordained and established’ by we, the people of the United States, it has never been submitted to them, as individuals, for their voluntary acceptance… very few of them have ever read, or even seen it; or ever will read or see it. Of its legal meaning (if it can be said to have any) they really know nothing; and never did. Nor ever will know anything.”

      Spooner indicated that the people who masqueraded as the so-called “government” could be more accurately described as fraudulent impostors or a “secret band of thieves, robbers and murderers.”

      This is how Rick Maybury described the creation of the so-called “US Constitution” in his article “Profiting from the Constitutional Convention” in the Investment Newsletter “World Market Perspective,” Vol. XVII, No. 11, Nov. 1984 (WMP Publishing Company, P.O. Box 2289, Winter Park, Florida 32790, USA — free sample issue on request):

      On March 10, 1783, at the town of Newburgh, New York, a group of generals met to plan a military coup. The generals offered the leadership to an officer the troops had respected and admired for many years… [F]or several days the officer pondered whether or not he would accept the offer to become military dictator of America… [F]inally, on March 15, 1783, he announced his decision to decline. His name was George Washington…

      …[T]he First Constitutional Convention which commenced on May 14, 1787 had George Washington presiding. This is the convention that created our current constitution. The procedures and results of this convention have long been held to be legal, ethical, constitutional, patriotic and in every other way proper… [I]t was held in secret. It had a hidden agenda. It was surrounded by clandestine meetings in which numerous deals were struck. The delegates intended to draw vast amounts of new power into the hands of the federal government and they violated every restriction their legislatures tried to impose on them. The First Constitutional Convention was actually a military coup. The history books do not describe it this way, but that is what it was…

      It may have been the slickest, smoothest, most well-lubricated coup any nation has ever experienced. To this day, most Americans do not understand what was really done to them. They look back on it all and smile wistfully.”

      The implications of the falsely-called “US Constitution” being a fraud and a hoax are far-reaching and very difficult to confront by most:

      1. In reality there never has been and there isn’t now a “country” or “nation” called the “United States of America.” (The fact that several hundred million people think of themselves as “Americans” constituting “the American nation” is at best a convenient, shared fiction, but doesn’t constitute reality.)

      2. There never has been and there isn’t now a “government” of the “USA” — there have only been hucksters who masqueraded as “government” and suckers who believed them.

      3. All the falsely-called “Presidents,” “Secretaries,” “Congressmen,” “Judges,” “Ambassadors,” etc. have been liars and impostors. (All these people have been — and are now — “ordinary naked humans” hallucinated by most as being exalted, when in reality they are mere liars and impostors.)

      4. Spooner’s reasoning also applies to all the “American States” as well as all other pretended “countries” — all the “political systems” in the world are fraudulent hoaxes, all the “government officials” are liars and impostors — albeit unwitting.

      5. In reality there never have been and there aren’t now any so-called “laws” in any of these pretended “countries.” (To regard some of the noises and scribbles that emanate from the mouths and pens of political impostors as “the law” is a stupefying and debilitating hallucination.)

      6. In addition to what is now being done to expand freedom in the world, some radically different strategies need to be developed and implemented.

      [Of course, terrocrats don't like certain things being questioned. For example the so-called "14th Amendment" to the pretended "US Constition" states: "The validity of the public debt... shall not be questioned."]

      Spooner indicated that the people who masqueraded as the so-called “government” could be more accurately described as fraudulent impostors or a “secret band of thieves, robbers and murderers.” fREDERICK mANN

      Jim Lunsford Reply:

      Anarchy. It has worked, and it will work again. No state. Less corruption. More prosperity. Less war.

      Andy Jackson Reply:

      “…at the Revolution, the sovereignty devolved on the people; and they are truly the sovereigns of the country, but they are sovereigns without subjects…with none to govern but themselves….”. CHISHOLM v. GEORGIA (US) 2 Dall 419, 454, 1 L Ed 440, 455 @DALL (1793) pp471-472.
      Not anarchy but a republican form of government. “one in which the powers of sovereignty are vested in the people…”Blacks law dictionary 4th pg.824
      Under common law you have to honor your fellow man and do no harm. The state is commanded to protect you. With a small state, you are free to do commerce without having to stay home with your gun to protect your property as you would with anarchy. Big difference. We have the best system in the world if we would only wake up and state ” I am sovereign and nobody(state) can harm me unless I’ve harmed another flesh and blood man”. Remember a true common law grand jury of 25 good men can remove anyone from office and bring any indictments. Check out the grand jury in your city, it won’t have the constitutional 25 but 21 or 23, etc. and so it can be controlled by the D.A.

      rik thomas Reply:

      yeah andy
      you’re getting somewhere.

    9. STARMAN Says:

      I HATE TO ADMIT IT BUT 11,000 PEOPLE HAVE LOST THIER LIVES IN THE RECENT
      MEXICAN DRUG WAR MOST OF IT FROM THE PARENT GROUP MEXICAN MAFIA
      YES IM AGAINST GUN TAKING BUT MEXICO IS IN THE MIDDLE OF A DRUG REVOLUTION
      AND NOT THE GOOD KIND. WHAT CAN BE DONE

      1. FORCED DEPORTATION AND PERMANENT BAN OF ALL ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS WHO
      COMMIT CRIMES

      2. CHECKING OF ALL MATERIALS GOING IN AND OUT OF MEXICAN BORDER . OH
      BY THE WAY LIBERALS OTHER COUNTRIES DO THAT ON THIER TROUBLED BORDERS

      3. CREATE A PRISON SOUTH OF EL CENTRO CA WITH IMMEDIATE DEPORTATION
      WHEN CRIMES ARE SERVED .

      OR WE CAN GO BACK TO THE FAILED GUN CRACK DOWN PROGRAM

      Jim Lunsford Reply:

      What can we do? What we should have done a long time ago. Legalize drugs completely! This would end the need to smuggle items we so desperately want here. This would eliminate the violence associated with said activity. This would eliminate the only way people die from weed, it’s laws. This would eliminate the ruination of our civil priviliges through the drug laws and the corruption of our police forces. Ad naseum.

      LUCY LIB Reply:

      Yes Jim, exactly. My doctor has prescribed hemp erbs for me for a long long time and I am able to think more openly now. Legalization of drugs for all is an excellent idea JIM. I will reccomend this in on nest Obama youth camp Director’s town hall meeting.

      CA GIRL

      stormcrow Reply:

      I agree. Mexico makes Al Capone’s Chicago look like a boy’s camp. The money made by the Black Market would make even the Fed take notice.

      Legalize and close the Black Market trade.

      LUCY, You sooo crazy!

      STARMAN Reply:

      GOOD IDEA BUT YOUR STILL NOT DEALING WITH ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION
      WHEN YOU LEGALIZE POT GANGS ARE VERY EFFECTIVE AT THEFT PROSTITUTION
      ETC. ETC.

      Matzo Man Reply:

      I don’t think the CIA would allow this. It would put them out of business.

    10. LUCY LIB Says:

      Good work, YES WE CAN ! eliminate crime in CA and everywhere. It is very simple, no guns, means no killing. Get it?? You guys must learn the ways of the NWO peace movement. Nancy Peeosi understands it. With CA having alledged budge problems we certainly do not need guns. GUN=BAD. I know your rhetoric about the costitution 2nd amendent but it is just needed to be updated. Now stand up and support Kool Pres Obama’s million boy peace troops. Recruiting soon. The will use water pistols and pellet guns only in extreme circustances when the criminal refused to go to one of our Obam Youth camp learning centers with free gov internet and free broadband Television. How can you disagree with a president who wants such wonderful free technologies. If we get chips than we can save money on printing paper money and minting coins. All this can be recylcled metals along with all the guns you are donating.

      CA OBAMA YOUTH CAMP DIRECTOR :)

      you bimbo Reply:

      still not funny. stop trying.

      GIBBS Reply:

      I think she is funny. I laugh all the time at the press. They are funny too. Thinking they actually can ask questions. LOL

      Matzo Man Reply:

      Well everybody has a right to their opinion. She really needs to come on down to Bridgeport, CT in some of our “not so good” neighborhoods and walk around at night talking real loud.

    11. JJ Says:

      #########EUROPE GOING CRAZY#########

      SIGN AGAINST THE INAUGURATION OF BOMBODROM.

      It would be the largest training area in Europe and essential in the preparation of military intervention of NATO and the EU.

      [FOR GERMANY]
      https://www.campact.de/bomb/sn1/signer

      Read info:
      http://www.militarybases.twoday.net/stories/762920

    12. Karen Says:

      Be sure to start your video and record the session when they come. Get your neighbors over with their cameras. Call the news.

    13. Karen Says:

      Be sure to start your video and record the session when they come. Get your neighbors over with their cameras. Call the news.

    14. velovet Says:

      Having seen first hand what happens in a country, where only the military and police were armed, I remain forever a strong advocate of the 2nd Amendment. What should not be tolerated is gun running across borders, and into a country where firearms are handed over to cartels, to destabilize government. Illegal sales detract from those of us who follow the rules. Without question, illegal arms sales will continue even if all legal gun owners in the U.S. are totally disarmed. Until the border with Mexico becomes a “real ” barrier, nothing will change, no control will be meaningful. Also, despite the liberal mindset of needing to save everyone, Mexico should make a stronger effort to solve it’s own problems, and regain control of their own country. Sadly, that seems now to be impossible.

    15. pissed Says:

      Just expect Alex to be called a racist or white supremacist.

    16. pissed Says:

      Just expect Alex to be called a racist or white supremacist.

    17. a congress traitor Says:

      wide open southern border only contributes to many of mexico’s problems.

    18. Granny Says:

      Let’s see, if I buy more than one gun on the same day does that mean that I’m suppling someone with guns and will the FEDs will be knocking at my door? Hmmmm.

      “Lucy Lib” Look up what has happened to England’s crime rate since the people are not allowed to have guns. They now have more crime than ever because the criminal’s are the only one’s with guns. Get informed lady!

      People kill people, not guns.

      you bimbo Reply:

      shes “joking”, or at least trying to. its a VERY bad comedy act that pops up here from time to time. dont respond to it.

      Granny Reply:

      Well, she sure had me convinced. And yes that’s bad comedy. Got me all riled up for nothing :)

    19. jollyroger Says:

      Stop and consider how many of these weapons were brought in from overseas.
      They did not come from any gun shows or legal dealers. I would certainly not be too surprised to find out how many of the weapons came from Isrealhell, China or some African nation.
      As long as there is a war on drugs, there will be a war on liberty.

      LUCY LIB Reply:

      Such speech as that mr hollyroger would be expected from a pirate. East Indies Trading company next. I suppose you want to start up slavery again.

      Obama Youth camp organizer
      CA GIRL

    20. Baron Von Balsa Says:

      Let me see if I understand this? Illegals who steal guns (break in to our homes) then sell those stolen weapons to drug gangs. Now then, in order to prevent this terrible activity we need to give up our right to self defense? Perfectly acceptable, lets also get rid of the 1st amendment as there will be no way to back up your mouth without a gun anyways. Golly, why don’t we just annex Mexico any ways? Why do we have to go across the globe to bring liberty when we could just start with Mexico and call it good. Heck, we probably have a third of their population up here anyways! Don’t get me wrong, I really do like Mexico a lot. So much so that I think it would be nicer if I didn’t have to mess with that border nonsense any more. We could then also just keep our firearms, and just arrest and imprison these illegal as normal non-illegal criminals. Seems a whole lot simpler to me and in the end we would all be alot better off.

    21. Libertarian Says:

      Here’s what happens when they take the right to be armed away from the public at large:

      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new.....a-U-S.html

      Reject all gov’t agencies.
      Educate yourself, independantly.

      Safe.

    22. flek Says:

      More broken window policy.
      Create a problem where there really isn’t one, and create a bogus industry to ‘fix’ it.
      stupid is as stupid does.

    23. HKTac45 Says:

      The FBI are investigating the stolen SS numbers used to purchase firearms in America. They are not “busting down doors and confiscating firearms”, only following the only leads they have being serial numbers of confiscated firearms in Mexico traced to innocent Americans whos only crime was to have thier SS numbers or firearms stolen. Legalizing drugs will not make them free, criminal elements will still be in the business trying to compete with legal sellers by most likely upping the violent tactics since I’m sure they aren’t too well versed in business ethics. Legalizing pot? Good. Legalizing crack and meth? Probobly not so good.

      rik thomas Reply:

      troll or brain damaged. look at the handle.

    24. mike Says:

      ASSHOLE——THANK YOU FOR THE GREAT INFORMATION ON HOW THE AMERIKAN MILITARY IS CRUSHING THE REST OF PLANET EARTH WITH IT’S RUN AWAY MILITARY BUDGET..THANKS AGAIN!

    25. audited for not tying shoelaces Says:

      It is in vain,sir,to extenuate the matter.Gentlemen may cry”Peace! Peace!”_ _but there is no peace.The war is actually begun!The next gale that sweeps from the north,will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms!Our brethren are already in the field!Why stand we here idle?What is it that gentlemen wish?What would they have?Is life so dear,or peace so sweet,as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery?Forbid it,Almighty God!I know not what course others may take;but as for me,give me LIBERTY or give me DEATH!

      Patrick Henry – March 23,1775
      Boston Tea Party Speech
      Virginia joining the American Revolution…

      Tom Reply:

      Yes, but Americans have to DO something. Everyone seems so adept at typing and quoting when what we need to be doing is shooting and DOING. There are two million foriegn troops on American soil, all armed and ready to KILL US – meanwhile, all of OUR troops are overseas fighting phoney-baloney wars precisely so that they won’t be here on our soil to help defend our country. Couple that with America’s inability to get moving while time is running out, and you’ve got a soveriegn nation dissolving into nothing. We’ve had way too many wake-up calls and still nobody is doing anything.

    26. Matzo Man Says:

      “The best we can hope for concerning the people at large is that they be properly armed.”

      -Alexander Hamilton

      rik thomas Reply:

      jesus thats a great and accurate analysis.

    27. global plantation serf Says:

      Eternal Vigilance – they didn’t say this for nothing. You have to always watch these clowns.

    28. audited for not tying shoelaces Says:

      im watching you guys give up your 2nd amendment,bcause youre on point whether you like it or not,after 3 centuries its gettin pivotal now,small reminder:
      1775=american revolution
      1776=bavarian illuminati

      It is in vain,sir,to extenuate the matter.Gentlemen may cry”Peace! Peace!”_ _but there is no peace.The war is actually begun!The next gale that sweeps from the north,will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms!Our brethren are already in the field!Why stand we here idle?What is it that gentlemen wish?What would they have?Is life so dear,or peace so sweet,as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery?Forbid it,Almighty God!I know not what course others may take;but as for me,give me LIBERTY or give me DEATH!

      Patrick Henry – March 23,1775
      Boston Tea Party Speech
      Virginia joining the American Revolution…

    29. walt Says:

      So far I see the government blamed, cartels, illegal aliens- except the people.
      Guess what? All crime is caused by “People”.
      Want to stop drug murders, cartels, crimes, drugs period? Stop doing drugs!!! Every person that does drugs is the support for all of the drug crimes- yes YOU are responsible for the murders and all the problems associated with your drug habit, because you know it happens yet you support it. So it all starts with “people” doing the right thing!!
      In fact, all crime in the world would stop if people just stopped crime. Imagine- there would be no need for cops, law enforcement, even laws. And all that money wasted in law enforcement could be used in growing food crops, building homes, living well. There would be no need for guns or weapons, no need for a government, each person would help each other in all ways, no one would be hungry, no murder, no theft, nothing but peace.
      It doesn’t start with governments, it starts with “people” who are willing to give up greed, selfishness, and their egos.
      The reality is there are people in this world that will kill you for no reason, whether in your home or in church. They will rape your family while you are forced to watch, they will steal and sell babies, burn you alive and when it happens, the victims always say it was a regular day and there was no sign of such a thing happening to them. To think you don’t need a gun is foolish. In the old days you never ventured into the woods without a gun- it was foolish not to unless you were willing to be bear or lion food. A gun is a way of life even for the righteous.
      I had a lady argue strongly against guns and that she would never have one in her home. I told her the fact that I have a gun protects her even though she lives many miles away. She said I was full of it! So, I made her a small and nice looking sign for her front door that read “This is a gun free home”. She wouldn’t put it on her door and when I asked why, she said “Well there’s no reason to advertise I don’t have a gun”! Case and point! The fact that the criminal doesn’t know if there is no gun protects her. She got mad- that means she knew I was right.

    30. flek Says:

      Hey Walt…that’s like explaining to mice how you’ve convinced a cat not to be a cat.
      A silly piece of Utopian wishful thinking. People were and always will be criminals against their fellow man…it’s our nature. Possibly because humans have no predators, nature makes us our own predator…who knows. Dealing with what we are is better then wishing to be what we are not. Yes, what we do to each other is a shame.
      In my opinion, we have the technology to feed, clothe, and shelter everyone on this planet…never mind ‘where will we get the money…blah blah” We can very well do so, yet we chose not to. If those basic needs were a worry of yesteryear, then I believe our species could pick itself up again and attain the prominence we once had.
      Will this ever happen? No idea, maybe when we have droids that do menial jobs so we can explore our full potential. Imagine what we could accomplish without the stress of worrying where our next meal would come from, our clothing, our shelter. What most people don’t realize is that these three things is all we really need in the physical world to survive. The rest are just toys…and it’s amazing how we still fight over our toys.
      We need to grow up, or change our attitude of what is really important.
      I think that day will come when we no longer pay fools to drop balls through hoops.


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