Top trends forecaster gives chilling prediction for next year

Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet.com
Tuesday, December 2, 2008
The country’s top trends forecaster, who accurately predicted the “panic” of 2008 nearly a year before it unfolded, is now ominously suggesting that next year will come to be known as “the collapse of 2009″.
Gerald Celente, CEO of Trends Research Institute, sent out a letter to his subscribers announcing that he had purchased a domain name called “Collapseof09.com”.
Around this time last year, Celente sent the following message to his subscribers;
In 2008, Americans will wake up to the worst economic times that anyone alive has ever seen. And they won’t know what hit them. Just as they were in a state of shock on 9/11, they’ll be frozen in fear when the Economic 9/11 strikes at the heart of Wall Street.
Dismiss this trend forecast at your own peril. If you believe everything will be all right, and that the ship of state is sailing along just fine, toss this out and go about your business.
Having correctly forecast the “Economic 9/11″, Celente is warning that people should prepare for something much worse in 2009.
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As we reported last month, Celente recently told Fox News that by 2012 America will become an undeveloped nation, that there will be a revolution marked by food riots, squatter rebellions, tax revolts and job marches, and that holidays will be more about obtaining food, not gifts.
Celente’s accuracy is widely heralded since he correctly predicted the 1997 Asian Currency Crisis, the subprime mortgage collapse and the massive devaluation of the U.S. dollar.
In 2007, Celente forewarned that “giants (would) tumble to their deaths,” which is exactly what we have witnessed with the collapse of Lehman Brothers, Bear Stearns and others.
Celente has stated that the current financial downturn will ultimately lead to nothing less than revolution.
“There will be a revolution in this country,” he said. “It’s not going to come yet, but it’s going to come down the line and we’re going to see a third party and this was the catalyst for it: the takeover of Washington, D. C., in broad daylight by Wall Street in this bloodless coup. And it will happen as conditions continue to worsen.”
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December 2nd, 2008 at 12:29 pm
Pull out your armor gear & get ready for Civil War II. Fight for God, family& close one’s, because people will take from you what they don’t have!!!!!
December 2nd, 2008 at 12:32 pm
When the powers that be, let Obama win, that was a clue of a collapse. When would the U.S. government allow someone name Barack Obama win the Presidency if it were not a last ditch effort to save the U.S. in the world.
December 2nd, 2008 at 12:38 pm
Riots in 2012? People won’t wait that far. But indeed let’s be honest, US is finished and they are holding the inevitable cos they want it to collapse in 2009 during Obama presidency. They want to give lil bush junior some rest since he stood loyal to it’s masters behind him.
Let’s not forget that as much people deny or ridicule me when I say WW3 is inevitable when will happen in 2009 the truth is that it will no matter what people want. It’s necessary not for us but for them to have it, I’ll call it the greatest harvest of souls this world has ever seen, 6.8 billion people to 500 million, although I think that probably they won’t manage to reach that number, I think that about 1 billion will somehow survive by hiding or something like that. Guns and food will only keep us alive they won’t save you though, nor will gold or silver. The only one that can save you is Yahshuah and His Father Our Father, YHWH.
December 2nd, 2008 at 12:49 pm
Score!! Its about time lets get it done and over with already. Replace the system.
December 2nd, 2008 at 12:53 pm
It’s funny, I can’t tell my wife these things, she doesn’t want to hear it. I did manage to get food stored and I have stored up some ammo but never got on the gold bandwagon but we have cash. Good luck folks!
December 2nd, 2008 at 1:01 pm
So you like action movies huh? Well here we go “Last Action Heroes”
December 2nd, 2008 at 1:02 pm
I wonder when we’ll see the first shot of the coming revolution. My guess is that the mainstream media will be the first target because of their complicity in the destruction of the US.
Where do you think the first shot will be fired?
December 2nd, 2008 at 1:05 pm
If only the general public would open their eyes… if only our parents had opened their eyes… this storm has been forecast for the last 100 years!
“Imagine an American based christian organization poisoning water supplies to bring the second coming quicker”
December 2nd, 2008 at 1:08 pm
The Founding Fathers would not cower.
December 2nd, 2008 at 1:13 pm
This is a very sad time… it sounds “exciting”, it sounds “like a movie”, but this is all too real… the more you research, the more you realize we are more than likely going to die… the question, however, is will you die on your feet… or on your knees…
G-D bless everyone… G-D speed… and best of luck in the coming Revolution/Civil War
December 2nd, 2008 at 1:18 pm
This isn’t about riots. This is about creating an economic situation capable of feeding a Global War. Take Iraq as a tiny example. Blair and Cheney exterminate the nation with their invasion, and murder millions, destroying everything linked to a first-world lifestyle. However, those that survive the onslaught don’t disappear or starve. Their economy simple adapts to their circumstances, leading to millions of Iraqis desiring to work for those that have destroyed their nation, because that is the only option they have. If the only real way of earning in Iraq is being a member of the stooge army or police-force, then that is what an amazing number of them are prepared to do.
SEE THE ECONOMIC COLLAPSE IN THE USA IN TERMS OF WHAT PEOPLE WILL HAVE TO ACCEPT IN ORDER TO CONTINUE EXISTING. What happens to the american public when hyper-inflation wipes out pensions, savings, and other investments? Will they starve, or lose their homes? Obviously not. Will they become economic slaves to whosoever rules America, having to operate in whatever form the demons demand? Of course they will.
The sheeple don’t need banks to be well fed and housed slaves. The sheeple don’t need pensions or investments to work as slaves each and every day. THE SHEEPLE SIMPLY NEED TO HAVE EVERY CHOICE AND OPTION REMOVED FROM THEIR LIVES. A war economy is a “what other choice do we have” economy, and that is the whole point.
Stop thinking according to rules that no longer apply. Even economists fail to ask “why”, focusing instead on “how”, and the obvious mathematical logic that economic theory follows. Yes, capitalism has ended in any form that you understand, but to fully realise what comes next, you have to seek an insight into the minds of the demons that have worked so successfully to destroy capitalism.
Citizens of the modern first world were too happy, comfortable and fixated on a safe future to stand behind anything approaching a Global War. The demons had to change all this, and they have using the simple mechanism of:
1) massive house value bubble
2) mortgages for all justified by subsequent massive increase in value of property purchased.
3) endless loans issued against the ever increasing value of the property owned.
This virus was perfected in the UK, and exported everywhere else. Like a computer virus implementing a ‘botnet’, once the world banking system was fully infected, the activation of the true purpose could happen. The greed of the sheeple used to destroy everything that protected the sheeple financially.
December 2nd, 2008 at 1:23 pm
It’s not all bad. Our simple society is about to get a big dose of reality. I wonder what this means for American Idols ratings?
December 2nd, 2008 at 1:29 pm
one word…..MONSANTO
December 2nd, 2008 at 1:30 pm
Boo! Be very afraid everyone. I seriously don’t think an all out assault is in the cards. Other than false flags and fear tactics, when have the NWO ever executed a mass destruction? 9-11 type incidents are their modus operandi, for now anyway. The fear mongers predicted another W incident before he left office as if it was inevitable. He’s not gone yet but it looks like he’s leaving the next false flag for his successor. We’re all going to die some day anyway so make a choice to be prepared but not live your life in fear.
December 2nd, 2008 at 1:38 pm
Since 11.25.2008, we have some rumours here in Germany, that retiered army personal is
goinig to be recalled!!!!!!!!!! Here is the original message, where it evolved from.
Do you know something about this? Real or Hoax?
SUBJECT: Recall from Retired Status
A. Name:***** *****
B. Retired grade: E-6
C. Serial Number: ***-**-****
D. PMOS:
E. Current mailing Address:
F. Date Retired: 10 OCT 86
Petty Officer *****, You have been selected for recall to active duty for a period of not less than three years; or a period of time which will extend beyond your 55th birthday or 30 years active Federal service whichever is sooner and; You will not be eligible for voluntary release from active duty during the period for which recalled, but may be released from active duty for the convenience of the Government; and while recalled, You will be subject to all provisions of the Uniform Code of Military Justice including discharge from the pursuant thereto and all Navy regulations including those providing for administrative reduction; but any administrative separation from the will be accomplished by releasing you from active duty rather than by discharge, except where other action is directed by Headquarters, Department of the Navy.
1. Enclosure
Report of Physical Examination
To give you an idea of how incredible this is, the last time the United States made a “general mobilization” was in December, 1941.
General mobilization orders usually take 120 days to show an effect, which translates into late February, early March, 2009.
Sadly, this time frame fits with my prediction that the United States government will financially collapse by the end of February and de-monetize the US dollar as a currency, wiping-out the life savings of every citizen and paving the way for introduction of the AMERO to replace the dollar.
Involuntary recall is part of all enlistment contracts in the military. Whenever anyone joins the military, they sign a contract for their Military Occupational Specialty (MOS) and are told in writing they are subject to being involuntarily recalled into military service FOREVER.
This general mobilization will involve literally millions of Americans and will prove incredibly disruptive to millions of families and to businesses throughout our nation. The big question is: WHY?
Why is this being done?
It seems to me that there are only two possibilities:
1) We will be in another (huge) war within the first 6 months of 2009 OR;
2) the government will collapse and they fear being forcibly overthrown by hostile citizens angry at losing everything.
For my part, I hope the latter is not the case because if the politicians think the military can, would – or even could – protect them from their own citizens, they are sadly mistaken.
Here in the USA, 95 million law-abiding citizens own over 212 million lawful firearms. If even ten percent of those gun owners were to rise-up to overthrow the government, the entire Army, Navy Air Force and Marines would be outnumbered more then ten to one – even with this general mobilization!
Any military members foolish enough to fight the very citizens they swore to protect, would quickly find themselves dead. Any foreign troops brought in from overseas would be cut down with a brutality they cannot even imagine.
What is amazing to me about this is the absolute, total silence about it in our “main stream” media. No information about this mobilization is being mentioned as news anywhere in US media except in outlets such as this web site.
More details as they become available. . . . . check back.”
Quelle: http://www.fourwinds10.com/sit.....1227479352
December 2nd, 2008 at 1:38 pm
Probably the first shot will be fired after US soldiers are already patrolling the streets.
December 2nd, 2008 at 1:40 pm
I was just reading in our local paper (Sacramento Bee) how the forclosures are turning around and how everyone should run out and buy, buy, buy. It is soooo tempting to jump on and say yeaa!!! we are back to the glory days.
But the cold hard truth is that my wife and friends are in the commercial construction industry and that industry is dead on its feet. No backlog (work to build) for 2009. WHat does that mean for Sacramento? It means by next March there will be lots of construction workers and managers (all with 75K to 200K salaries jobless). That also means the suppliers and support companies will also go bust. This will be a wave that will plunge Sacramento into a depression like no other. THese folks buy boats, cycles, and toys, toys, toys. They also eat out and buy lots of stuff from the malls etc. This will hit home next year and will be bad. Remember, the economy is judged by the constuction industry and I can tell you 100% that what is happening to this industry is EARTHSHATTERING. Like Bear Stearns, WaMU etc, the big rock solid construction companies are starting to layoff the office staff and superintendents now. They know what is coming in the economy because the capital has dried up.
So, why do the papers not look ahead? Well, for one they are all idiots that can’t see the whole picture. They see the narrow topic they are trying to sell. Look around and talk to your friends who likley are in various industries. What do their companies see???
In the end the USA no longer produces many products. Our labor pool has priced itself out of the market and our unions have pension plans that are overboard. What I would give to be a retired state worker in California. That is what is killing Ca besides the illegal aliens that consume billions a year.
In the end, expect a terror attack (in the USA) to help keep the peasants in line when TSHTF.
Lock and load!
December 2nd, 2008 at 1:49 pm
It’s not the mainstream media, Alex is in the mainstream, more corporate media.
December 2nd, 2008 at 1:54 pm
Be careful what you wish for because you just might get it – and don’t listen to these iditot doomsdayers when you make that wish.
The 2009 economic downturn was predicted by Marty Armstrong who knew about cycles – financial, political and civilisation cycles (when they rise and fall) these are not cycles of exact economics but more importantly, “symptoms of something else”. A wave of conciousness, God, energy coming from the cosmos, who knows what it is but it’s the same thing driving global warming to the year 1999, is electric oreven etheric in nature that drive these events up or down. The precise date for the downturn is mid march 2009 which will continue to 2011 coupled with a downturn in the longer 224 political cycle which will result in political and economic “change” as has been predicted by many pundits – they won’t tell you how you how they came to this conclusion however because it gives them more power over everyone and a chance to influence the events to change them to suit their hidden agenda. It simply means change, a new idea which can be positive or negative. – and we have a change coming with obama. But if everyone had this ‘time machine’ information then there’d be more of a level playing field – google martin armstrong and read his excellent paper on this subject – you will then have the same power as the illuminati use to influence world affairs and maybe make it more peaceful, understanding, compassionate and forgiving. Instead of being asleep in the matrix, become “the One” by being able to understand the source code of life cycles and be the change YOU want to see.
December 2nd, 2008 at 2:02 pm
JD i’d imagine the first shot would be fired in a major city.
It’ll probably come down to militias of people who were enlightened or sensed something wrong and left before everything fell apart. I know after reading many comments on this site theres a great number of you that aren’t “bunkering” that will be mobile in remote locations. You’re bound to run into others who are out to survive. Strength in numbers in the only way to survive. It might also come down to these militiamen/survivors fighting off the gov. as well as zombies. 4th generation guerilla warfare can beat a 3rd generation warfare army, thats why we can’t win in Iraq. After watching some youtube videos of the Irish in the 70’s I realized that Molotov cocktails are the best way to break up formations. You hit one man in armor, catch him on fire, and it will disable him, and a few other people trying to help put him out. Also aim for unarmored spots- legs, feet, etc.
heres more info on 4th gen warfare if you don’t know much about it, read up http://globalguerrillas.typepa....._gene.html
December 2nd, 2008 at 2:09 pm
Those who are manipulating the economy is doing so for FEAR just like they pushed the “terrorism” fear card. Now it’s the ecomomic fear that’s created. I believe the global elite have had problems dealing with the devaluation of the dollar because many nations buy in currencies other than the U.S. Dollar.
December 2nd, 2008 at 2:12 pm
Tie this in with Jeb Bush’s entreatment to his fellow treasonous Republicans to set up a Shadow Government (What… ANOTHER one?!?) and it’s not difficult to see that those bastards will be causing mayhem and division every single second that Obama is in control. If you thought the GOP thugs gave Clinton a hard time for his pettyfogging escapades, wait till you see how many tens (if not hundreds) of millions of dollars of federal funds they squander filling the nation’s courts with childish, jealous, corrosive challenges to every single move the Democrats try and make to (supposedly) bring the country together.
I wonder how Ron Paul will do out of any talk about a third party. Seems to me he’s in the fron running already.
December 2nd, 2008 at 2:20 pm
A theory, Bernanke, et al. are not stupid. Why take all those dollars now? Well, if you are about to destroy your most lucrative central bank, best milk it whilst it still has value and, buy assets in other currencies, and you can sell a fraction of your new assets to pay off the debt you owe, just after you implode the system
December 2nd, 2008 at 2:42 pm
I disagree with the forecast. We are very close to an intermediate term bottom in the stock market, probably around 6800-7200 on the Dow. Once that low is registered there will be a choppy but significant advance throughout most of 2009. That advance will recover perhaps half of the 2007-2008 losses before rolling over to the real crash, a multi-thousand point move down to perhaps the area of the 1987 crash, Dow 1700-2200.
To recap, once the intermediate low is registered, conditions will be somewhat better through 2009. If you’re locked into the stock market now, you’ll get a chance to sell at better prices in a few months. Of course, not one person in a thousand will do so.
December 2nd, 2008 at 3:00 pm
24 THX91101 Says:
December 2nd, 2008 at 2:42 pm
I disagree with the forecast. We are very close to an intermediate term bottom in the stock market, probably around 6800-7200 on the Dow. Once that low is registered there will be a choppy but significant advance throughout most of 2009. That advance will recover perhaps half of the 2007-2008 losses before rolling over to the real crash, a multi-thousand point move down to perhaps the area of the 1987 crash, Dow 1700-2200.
To recap, once the intermediate low is registered, conditions will be somewhat better through 2009. If you’re locked into the stock market now, you’ll get a chance to sell at better prices in a few months. Of course, not one person in a thousand will do so.
MAN ARE YOU STUPID.
CITING CHART FORCASTS.
THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH A WORTHLESS FIAT CURRENCY. DUMMY.
THE MARKET IS A REACTION TO THE CRISIS, NOT THE CAUSE OF IT.
GEEEEZE.
HERE’S THE PROB.
1 DOLLAR OF WORTHLESS PAPER FIAT CURRENCY BACKED BY NOTHING.
IS WORTH JUST AS MUCH AS 1 QUAD ZILLION DOLLARS OF FIAT CURRENCY BACKED BY NOTHING.
THEY ARE BOTH WORTH NOTHING.
ADD TO THAT THE PRINTING OF 11 MILLION QUAD ZILLION WORTHLESS FIAT CURRENCY DOLLARS MAKES IT WORTH EVEN LESS THEN NOTHING, IF THATS POSSIBLE ?
THE MARKETS ARE SPECULATION, BASED UPON DOLLARS , WORTH NOTHING.
UNDERSTAND ?
December 2nd, 2008 at 3:10 pm
Interesting that CNN Propaganda network claims the terrorist in the attack were linked to Al Qaeda and one of the detainees at Guatanomo. Interesting that Obama announced that his first executive order is to CLOSE GUATANOMO and hold trials for those accused. For some reason the Neocons want Gautanomo detainees to remain. Was this terrorist act an attempt by the Neocons to scare Obama into not releasing Guatanomo detainees?
December 2nd, 2008 at 3:15 pm
In my opinion the most significant events that will occur will be on or around 2011-12 and will be caused by our collective will to manifest something incredible.. I believe that if 60-70% of the population began to meditate on an end to universal suffering and violence, and the demise of the entirety of Illuminated cults ~ It will become our reality. Mr. Jones seems to sway as far away from some important topics here as much as possible, maybe for reasons of his credibility, though maybe we should remember the fact that most of these esoteric cults who have such power to manipulate the population are well… esoteric, meaning they are well aware of, and practicing, all of the spiritual aspects present in this pivotal time period and the power it wields for anyone who uses it. They would just relish in the fact that all the vast majority believes is the physical reality void of any spiritual aspects, further perpetuating our fear and ignorance. And possibly bringing the manifestation of their vision during the already underway galactic alignment everyone so conveniently disregards because they rendered our own will useless through spiritual ignorance. Now when science has arrived at proving spiritual realities(research david wilcock) and it is well-known by multitudes, the outcome of this alignment is MUCH more likely to be POSITIVE if we could only wake up. We need to and point the needle in one direction. I think focusing on things like this will move us in the wrong direction. Sure protect yourself and others, buy food, but don’t let them scare you too much, research and maybe support the more productive sides of this situation. Focus on the downfall of them as the outcome. We have A Choice. http://Www.myspace.com/jacksonfreebords
December 2nd, 2008 at 3:17 pm
When the elite control the system you need inside information to be truely sure.
Do you realise how much money it takes to control markets?
These people are making fortunes off the back of the unsuspecting.
Thats how they shift wealth.
The rule is to do what the majority dont do.
If you want to make money in the markets get a novice to trade on a demo account intra day.
You will do the exact opposite trades to them on a live account, exit and enter as they do.
Thats how the elite work, but on a much larger scale.
The Forex market is the best for this system. The novice always gets eaten alive!!!!!
THINKING OUT OF THE BOX KEEPS YOU FROM BEING TRAPPED or EATEN.
The only problem is you will not try this method because it is egoless.
December 2nd, 2008 at 3:24 pm
THX……..you might have a point if this crisis had not been planned and orchestrated by the world shadow government which is quickly bringing us into the New World Order. There is absolutely nothing cyclical on the horizon. One world government to one world currency and one world religion. This is the New Age. I urge everyone to read Enroute to Global Occupation by Gary Kah. We’re not coming out of this. This is paydirt for Christianity.
December 2nd, 2008 at 3:25 pm
Anyone game, dont do more than five trades a day and dont overleverage. Thats it.
The novice has to think they are trading a live account.
Fear, greed, and emotion will be their enemy. whilst you clean up.
Remember, NO EGO!!!
December 2nd, 2008 at 3:32 pm
Well done. Read now of THE MEGA COLLAPSE OF 2009! Click link: http://patriotscave.blogspot.com/
December 2nd, 2008 at 3:55 pm
I think it’ll be a combo of police state/civil war. Or more accurately, police state/chaos. Some cities will be controlled, others abandoned, and there will be chaos in a lot of places. Any groups that try to organize (outside the the control of the ruling police state, that is) will be targeted and driven back into a chaotic state.
This will be triggered by a second 9/11 event, giving an excuse to implement the police state. From there, most will cooperate, some will fight, at first. As things continue to fall apart, more will fight.
We’ll definitely be a 3rd world country in under 10 years.
December 2nd, 2008 at 3:57 pm
“There will be a revolution in this country…”
Yes, there will. The corrupt politicians and criminal bankers have become so blatantly fraudulent that their end cannot be far away.
But the revolution will not come at the muzzle of a rifle; it will come with the switch to an alternative currency.
All we need to do to unseat our rulers is stop using their money. When we switch to an alternative currency their system will fall. The central banks will dissolve and their political actors will be out of a job.
Click the link below to explore a new inflation-proof currency, new economic format and new social structure that leaves the criminal bankers and corrupt politicians out of the picture altogether.
Don’t fight the system:
Replace it
http://socialviability.com/
December 2nd, 2008 at 4:03 pm
why stock up on money or save it, if it’s not gonna be worth anything? what are you gonna need it for?
December 2nd, 2008 at 4:17 pm
an alternative form of money? are you high? I dont think the same thing that causes a problem wil fix it, maybe an economic system based on resources not pieces of paper with no intrinsic value based on supply and demand, zeitgeist predicted that we’d need food riots and a total colapse, i’ll welcome it, stock up on ammo !
December 2nd, 2008 at 4:45 pm
Social V….. it is illegal to have a competing currency in the USA. Don’t think that the money changers haven’t thought about a revolution. They have that is why our next attack will be so bold that cities will be destroyed and the fear will paralize the country long enough for any chance of an organized revolution to occur.
December 2nd, 2008 at 5:07 pm
revolt-revolt-take the country back-execute the puppet masters-bring the msm to justice-reverse the unjust laws and regulation imposed on the american people-make the laws for the people and not corporations-disolve the corporations-bring back public execution for treason-hold our leaders to a higher standard-change-change-change-prosecute the tyrants of 911-set the record straight-rewrite our made up history books with truth-teach our children truths and values-end the poisoning of the american people-execute those who knowinglt poison us-pull dna patents-outlaw gmo foods designed to kill people-execute the gmo developers-if we get our country back-clean house-give rights back to the states and the people-simplify the law so we do not need a lawyer to buy a home-end the fed-take back our national parks and treasures-boot the un out of the country-better yet take away thier diplomatic imunity and prosicute those bastards-sever the ties with isreal-make this place home of the free again-
December 2nd, 2008 at 5:07 pm
All of this is very unfortunate. I mean this shit is crazy scary! Ive been looking into the N.W.O for a few years now. These days you cant trust what anyone says. You must make your own assumption I guess. Why must every move someone makes be out of fear? Fear of government, fear of money loss, food shortage, disease, aliens, religion, and on and on! Just shoot me and get it over with! F@%$ all this fear shit. Id rather just die and come back at a later date. If gods/aliens are real, than they need to come on and fix this. Seriously… Or I guess I could keep trying to let friends know about these things while they look at me like Im crazy! Either way, when someone can give me a location to hide from all these super powers of the earth and beyond, please let me know. I’ll be hear waiting.
-Concerned Human
December 2nd, 2008 at 5:08 pm
We know who is doing this and we know why. What we have to do is share this knowledge to all. Then when we rise from the ashes of the aftermath we have to bring to justice these evil people and rebuild our societies in an open and truly transparent way.
December 2nd, 2008 at 5:16 pm
the plan.
1.HANG THE BANKSTERS.
2.HANG THE TRAITORS
3.PRINT GREEN BACKS DEBT FREE.
4.CLOSE THE BORDERS AND STOP ALL IMPORTS.
5.REBUILD STEEL INDUSTRY
6.OPEN ALL CLOSED OIL WELLS
7.CHARGE 1 BUCK FOR ANYONE WHO WANTS TO KICK GEORGE BUSH’S ASS.
8.BREAK UP ALL CONGLOMERATES OVER 10 BILLION IN ASSETS.
9.STOP ALL WARS, BRING ALL TROOPS HOME ADOPT A MESS WIF US N WE NUKE YOU DEFENSE.
10.FEED UNLAWFULS TO OUR PETS IF THEY DONT GO HOME
11.GET OBAMA’S WIFE A FACE LIFT.
12. HANG ORIELY, THEN SHOOT HIM, BURY HIM, DIG HIM UP AND SHOOT HIM AGAIN THEN THROW HIS AZZ INTO THE SEA.
13.OUTLAW PARTY POLITICS
14.MAKE A TAX RETURN THE STANDARD TO VOTE. NO JOB, NO VOTE
15.LEGALIZE POT AND HEMP PRODUCTION FOR FUEL AND INDUSTRY.
16.SHOOT BARNEY FWANK AND HIS FELLO PEDIFILES
17. APPLY DEATH SENTENCE TO BE CARRIED OUT AFTER GUILTY VERDICT FOR ANY COKE OR CRAK OR HERION OR METH DEALER/MANUFACTURER.
18. WIPE OUT INNER CITY GHETTO GANGS.
19.WRAP BILL AND HILLIARY IN US FLAG AND BURN IT.
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ANY OTHER IDEA’S?
East Reply:
March 4th, 2009 at 6:26 pm
You forgat Dick Chaney,Donald rumsfeld and Condolisa Rice
December 2nd, 2008 at 5:16 pm
Our founding fathers are rolling in their graves, as is JFK and ronald reagan.
December 2nd, 2008 at 5:21 pm
I agree with Neil. We need to inform others about why this is happening, and who is responsible. And we need to do it fast before they shut us all off the Internet in the last stages of their takeover.
I have in the past suggested to an American forum site, that their members should pool their finances and purchase a couple of pieces of software. One is generically called an “email spider” which harvests email addresses from the Internet, in their millions, if you want to.
The other is a bulk-emailer, which takes those millions of email addresses and sends out a message tailored by you, with pertinent links to web sites like Prison Planet’s financial crash reportage.
I think you can pick up an email spider for about $75, and you can either purchase a bulk emailer and download it, or buy a bulk emailing account, hosted online, in which you create your messages with their software, and send them out. I think the downloaded version is the best idea, so that you control it; and not somebody with the phoney patriot act sitting like a chip on their shoulder.
In fact, if anybody has such an email spider, and the key to go with it, I would appreciate having a copy. I am desperate for an email spider, and a bulk-mailer, and haven’t got the funds for them. I would use them to publicize my web site on the issue of the annexation of Canada to the US and Mexico:
http://www.habeascorpuscanada.com
HABEAS CORPUS CANADA
Anybody ablel to contribute a viable copy of an email spider and bulk emailer with the functioning keys, please send me an email, with the software attached in a zip, to: crazyforcanada@hotmail.com
Thanks in advance.
Kathleen Moore
Montreal, Canada
December 2nd, 2008 at 5:26 pm
My personal predictions for 2009:
There will be no “ultimate” collapse of the economy.
There will be no American civil war or revolution.
Sheeple will continue to whine, but no significant changes will occur.
It’s gonna be “business as usual” by corporate America so consider buying more stocks.
If you can’t beat’em, join’em.
December 2nd, 2008 at 6:09 pm
Anyone remember when Yahoo had the message boards on ALL the Yahoo News stories? It was the most free form unfiltered free speech forum on the internet. They removed it in 2005 on the pretext that certain users were “abusive”. The cure was far worse then the disease!! Tens of thousands of users could say what ever was on their mind about anything including the story in question. Too bad it’s gone along with many of our civil liberties!!
December 2nd, 2008 at 6:11 pm
FDR is rolling in his grave as well.
every measure he put up had to be taken down to de-regulate the economy, and he even said “I will not turn this nation into the united states incorporated”
December 2nd, 2008 at 6:17 pm
Still don’t understand how The “Federal Reserve System” caused this mess? A short / FREE book is available (in HTML & PDF format) at: http://MeetTheSystem.org
December 2nd, 2008 at 6:18 pm
What’s new. I kind of thought the bloodless coup happened are fair time ago. Crashes and depressions are always used by the big shots to consolidate even more wealth and power within their network of control.
December 2nd, 2008 at 6:29 pm
Dont frett poeple, worrying about this wont help, besides, we will die one day anyway regardless. So my advice to you is to enjoy what little good times we have left.
December 2nd, 2008 at 6:30 pm
people at work are intersted in borring my alex jones movies canadas waking up but it might not matter if the gov. gen. gives the seperatists a 5 year mandate
December 2nd, 2008 at 6:38 pm
i’m currently listening to the alex jone’s replay talking about fake new’s and the canadian media is giving this coup the fair and ballenced treatment
December 2nd, 2008 at 6:49 pm
Install a shower filter for your family to filter out the contaminants.
December 2nd, 2008 at 6:58 pm
Every word is true and it is not based on a human plan, but an ancient one.
December 2nd, 2008 at 7:47 pm
The Collapse of the ” NAIVE BUBBLE ”
Finally
December 2nd, 2008 at 7:54 pm
#40 truth monster,
20. end the fed, revert back to 50 independent states.
21. remove washington DC as the capital of the US.
22. install 1 term limits.
23. if you’ve never had to make ends meet, your unable to run.
24. if you have more than 100k in your bank, your unable to run.
25. abolish any money from special interest groups as unlawfull.
next ideas?
December 2nd, 2008 at 8:06 pm
Yeah…and the people here will wonder if it’s going to interfere with the Stanley Cup.
December 2nd, 2008 at 8:53 pm
55 Sad Day for the Republic Says:
December 2nd, 2008 at 7:54 pm
#40 truth monster,
GOOD ONES
NEXT ?
December 2nd, 2008 at 8:57 pm
I love that you still got these douches playing the markets, fuck man go to the casino, you’ll find it rigged about the same, the house always wins, plus the funiest shit i heard, a guy i know invests in citigroup, he’s like great time to buy in, meanwhile i’m trying to explain to him, the second they get FED infusion they are just gonna dilute the shares LMAO, if your playing the stock market right now to get ahead, jump on the money changer wagon, fuck, greed can get the best of us.
Don’t buy stock… or gold… or foreign currency, last i checked they aren’t edible and taste like shit anyways,
I used my money and bought this
-Big horn III 4 season tent by cabelas.com (great intermidiate shelter while you build something more permanent) 700$
-Excalibur crossbow with scope 600$ (guns need bullets, bullets are only used once, arrows can be built of of bone and wood)
-Enough gas to get me the fuck away from civilization 75$
-various non GMO seed 50$
-2 months supply of non perishables 150$ (for when you can’t find good huntin or fishing)
-fishing equipment (tackle, rods, reels) 150$
-4 thermal sleping bags -10F 400$
-flint for fire 5$
-cast iron frying pan 20$
-axes 75$
-wood saw 30$
other various shit Total cost is approx 3000$, this is for 4 people as well
people should be doing this, Playstations and big screen tv’s will be useless very soon
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:01 pm
43 Griot Says:
December 2nd, 2008 at 5:26 pm
My personal predictions for 2009:
There will be no “ultimate” collapse of the economy.
There will be no American civil war or revolution.
Sheeple will continue to whine, but no significant changes will occur.
It’s gonna be “business as usual” by corporate America so consider buying more stocks.
If you can’t beat’em, join’em.
If you can’t beat’em, join’em
WE’LL REMEMBER YOU WHEN WE HANG THEM.
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:02 pm
Playstation and XBox do kick ass by the way, i think i’m gonna miss that form of entertainment the most, FUCKKKKKK!!!!
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:12 pm
The country’s top trends forecaster, who accurately predicted the “panic” of 2008 nearly a year before it unfolded, is now ominously suggesting that next year will come to be known as “the collapse of 2009″.
FOR THE RECORD, THE FOUNDERS KNEW THIS 237 YRS AGO.
GERMANY LEARNED THIS IN THE 30′S
ROME FOUND THIS OUT TOO
IT’S FIAT CURRENCY. IT’S WORTH NOTHING.
IT’S ONLY GOOD FOR 90 YRS THEN THE COUNTRY EMPLODES.
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:17 pm
Getting rid of the monetary system is the only way we can be free from this cycle of b.s.
We can remove these people from power, put new laws in place to protect our rights, and
be educated about it. But people will forget, the rich will lobby our politicians under the table, and eventually the elite will climb back to power. And its because of our system, its not the elite. the system creates greedy, selfish people. Thats what our fore fathers didn’t understand. they did there best but they didn’t look at the big picture. Just as many free soceities havn’t. We have to be real as to were are problems come from and look at the big picture. a lot of people don’t agree. If that is true to you then let me ask you this.
If you hate how your leaders treat you than why do you support the system that allows them to treat you like that? HMMM???
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:22 pm
#40 Truthmonster
26. Nuke Israel
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:30 pm
Educating yourself to the reality of the worlds situation can leave you overwhelmed. Positive action to protect yourself is advised my friends…
Take care and prepare for the times ahead.
Kind Regards
PS – Stay tuned to prison planet because they will have the news first.
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:33 pm
@ truth monster.
You are a perfect example of someone who DOES NOT look at the big picture.
unless its a joke, I’d really think up some new constructive, realistic ideas if I was you.
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:36 pm
Obama Vows US Military Rule Over Planet As 1 Million Soldiers To Secure Homeland:
http://www.cherada.com/articul.....e-homeland
Even worse for the American people is that in Obama’s preparations for Global War they are to be totally militarized on a scale not seen since Adolph Hitler and the Nazis militarization of the German peoples during the 1930’s
December 2nd, 2008 at 10:01 pm
this IS part of the agenda.
the sheep will stay asleep until they can’t eat
December 3rd, 2008 at 12:14 am
I would like to respond to the comments by truthmonster. You do not bother me or anyone else with a good heart. Obviously you are useless to the discussion. I recommend to everyone:
1) Storable food
Self defense is avoidance and anticipation
2) Debt reduction
3) Form a team of people who will gather with you in times of crisiss
4) Prepare to evacuate quickly
5) Home School NOW! Imagine they pull the pin when your children are at school and they use them to blak mail you!
6) Stay tuned and have low tech communications so you can’t be cut off
7) Expose the liars on the media to the truth
9) Invest in tangibles – tools, infrastructure, example metal and wood lathes
10) Turn off the tv and spend time with your partner and children.
Aex jones is my primary source for information becasue he is value and information focused not petty trivial stupidities….
December 3rd, 2008 at 12:39 am
People who want to avoid future hardship would do well to begin preparing now before it’s too late. I feel sorry for those working for worthless dollars while the wise ones are at home preparing ferverantly for what is to come. Solar power generators, freeze dried food to last years, purchase of silver coins, seeds for growing food, organizing neighbors in buildings to open up the roof to grow vegetables, purchase of solar panels, learning the skill of building panels for others when economy fails, gathering up local barterers for service exchange such as hair cuts, reading about bartering services, supplies, etc. Stop watching television and get on the ball!
December 3rd, 2008 at 1:47 am
Just want to say to all the ‘Zeitgeist’ bozo’s.
You always talk about the ’self fulfilling prophecies’ in the Bible…try this one on for size. The Bible states in the last days that persons will kill Christians and think they are doing God’s service. It also state that the Anti-christ will hate both Jews and Christians. Sound familiar?
Yes, you lothe both the Jews and the Christians. Does it piss you off to know that you, yourself are fulfiling prophecy while we speak?
Ha ha ha ha. I can imagine God having a great laugh at this one.
Remember, “EVERY KNEE WILL BOW.”
Even so, come quickly Lord Jesus!
December 3rd, 2008 at 2:15 am
YEA KEEP IT COMING WITH THE INFO!!!! IF IT WAS NOT FOR INFOWARS.COM & THIS SITE,, I WOULD NOT KNOW HALF THE SHIT THAT IS GOING ON……MAINSTREAM NEWS IS FOR THE SHEEP!!! THE FUCKING SHEEP. PEOPLE WE WILL START OVER BETTER THEN BEFORE… ITS HARD BUT WE MUST HAVE A LITTLE FATE… TRY ANYWAY… ITS VERY HARD FOR ME… THIS CITY SUCKS..BIGTIME. AND I WILL BE HERE WHEN THE SHIT HITS THE FAN..THATS GOING TO SUCK….TRYING TO GET DOWN SOUTH MUCH BETTER THEN THERE. THE BIG CITYS ARE ALL SCUM,,,WELL MOST OF THE PEOPLE HERE!!!!
WE WILL BE THE NEW SONS OF THE REPUBLIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LIVE FREE OR DIE…….REVO76-OUT
December 3rd, 2008 at 2:30 am
the inevitable will happen,too much bad karma has been built up and has to be worked out. How could so many americans be so ignorant and so stupid for so long? we`re in for more trouble all over the world. Don`t be afraid, be prepaired.Get your feet back to the ground.Raise awarenes and unite, together we stand, divided we fall.Greetings from switzerland to all of you. Love lone wolf
December 3rd, 2008 at 3:16 am
The amerikan sheeple both ignorant and arrogant- going over the cliff… into oblivion..
December 3rd, 2008 at 5:37 am
The Illuminati love numbers. They are sacrosanct to these scumbags. I venture to say that someone in the group has a bet that before 99 years are up, that they can totally control the US and the money supply. Why do I say this? Dec. 24th, 1913, Federal Reserve Act passed ‘congress’. Oh sure, there were only three members in attendance (on Jekkyl Island), but they planned it that way for that very reason. Forward 99 years. December 23rd, 2012. Mayan calendar runs out. No one knows exactly WHAT that really means, but does anyone REALLY think this is a coinkydink?
Not me. I say J.P Morgan’s ilk are preparing to collect that one dollar bet from the Rothschild scumbags. Or a variation thereof.
December 3rd, 2008 at 7:02 am
More evidence that being complacent will no suffice. Learn to garden. Get some guns. Get some gold. Prepare for the worst. Hope for the best.
December 3rd, 2008 at 7:21 am
Day after day the precisely evidences that are emerging about, the filthy criminals, the global elites of NWO are attempting to ignite wars and thats by using the terror attacks on civilian targets such as in Mumbai terror attacks in the India. Its more clear ever than before that the criminals of the NWO are planing to drive the United States of America to other endless wars to continuing the devastation on the USA economy and world economy as well. Just as those criminals of the NWO did drive the USA into war on Iraq a few years ago, the same sorrow, filthy and criminals group today are attempting to create the same preconditions and the same circumstances for igniting war between nations who are populous by all means.
Those criminal groups, the illuminaties, the luciferians, the neo conservatives and all other secret societies, those filthy criminals of NWO whose qualities are based on criminality and on the complex of the inferiority, on the filthiness and on the fuolness, on devil worship, on the Lucifer worship and on the teachings of the zionism, they teach the childrens on the elementary schools to worship the zionism.
The free and the truthful people whose the glorious and the honourable stance for the liberty for the entire humanity shall prevail and shall continue the defeating the defeated criminal NWO.
December 3rd, 2008 at 7:35 am
Everything Alex has been saying would happen, is coming down all at once. Its grim baby. I think I’m going to start coming to terms with the possibility that this is the end. I mean really the end. Man. If anyone wants to come and visit me at my patriots cave blog you are welcome. Its not all expose NWO yada yada all the time, I have fun stuff too like free stuff, spiritual books you can get for free. contests. remote viewing experiments. Deep space scanner. world-wide prayer chain in case you need help. Its not all serious you dig, because this stuff gets depressing and we need to have fun a little too. Come to the cave and see us. all are welcome. all religions too. here is the link: http://patriotscave.blogspot.com/
December 3rd, 2008 at 7:45 am
Hey guys,we are all living proof that the sheeple can be woke-up,some sooner or later than others.Keep knocking on the doors of perception as they will awaken one by one at a time.Twenty five years for me and I have knocked on a lot of doors,maybe even yours.One or more of them may be on a jury where you are a defendent and will be in a position to free you.This can work at an exponential rate which includes the bandwagon effect.
Quitters can’t win and winners don’t quit.
December 3rd, 2008 at 7:55 am
Mohammed al-Saedi (#76),
If the “NWO” (”criminal groups, the illuminaties, the luciferians, the neo conservatives and all other secret societies” sic) are defeated and will continue to be, how can you explain the stunning successes witnessed in just the past decade? Every year that has passed since the millennium has seen more chaos and fragmentation than in any time since the beginning of the modern period and the revolutions in North America and France. The revolution has reached every corner of the globe and no religion, doctrine, or community will be left unenlightened when this phase of the great work is completed.
December 3rd, 2008 at 8:20 am
Is Celente taking from the notes of the Web bot guys? Predicting doom these days is like shooting fish in a barrel.
The elites will pre-empt any revolutionary movements with depopulation measures — like epidemics or geo-catastrophes — so that the population will willingly submit to a high-tech dystopic lifestyle insofar as it ends the suffering.
Whatsoever happens, the elites must keep the power grids up for the majority of the time. The foremost instrument of political socialization these days is the TV. As long as there is a TV operating in every home there will be at least one person in every home lazy enough to watch it and thus open to subliminal input manipulation.
Thus there are two things the patriotic hacker must consider attempting as the empire unwinds. 1) Hacking into and taking down the power grids and DoD satellite systems. This will bring an end to consent manufacturing through illusion made possible by the television and it will force people out of their homes to mingle and talk and re-establish a sense of community. 2) Someone must, absolutely must, hack and destroy TIA. The “watchlists” are the most dangerous threat to free humanity. On those lists are the names of everyone with a brain enough and gall enough to know that fascism is a suicidal ideology and to express such to their contemporaries.
We must take down the TV-enabled propaganda matrix to re-establish localism and community and we must destroy the secret surveillance police state infrastructure.
Will this cause chaos? You bet. But I for one would rather live in the Wild West of the 1800s than in Philip K. Dick’s dystopia as described in his book “The Penultimate Truth.”
December 3rd, 2008 at 9:41 am
1) PHIL form brooklyn, relax.
2) crisis -reaction-solution.
3) gerald, tell me something i dont know.
December 3rd, 2008 at 10:36 am
It’s been said by many, but I’ll still add my voice. Start saving those tins of long life bake beans, dried food stuff, and basically essentials that will last and not take too much fuel to cook. Get creative people. Don’t think it will never happen. We all never thought the big banks would go belly up either. I’ve been pestering my friends for the past 5 years since 2003, as I ’smelt’ something on the horizon even then. I have gone on radio saying as much in 2003. Now they don’t think it is so funny any more, me badgering them to start saving essentials and updating them.. Now myself and they have amassed several non perishable goods where we do not have to rush out in a panick should ’something’ happen suddenly.
Diana.
December 3rd, 2008 at 10:44 am
Stock up on food,water and survial needs. If finances allow buy some decent camping gear. Better to have and not need than to need and not have.
December 3rd, 2008 at 11:42 am
I’m a top market forecaster and I see a bottom in the stock market about Dec 12-15. The lead time for a bottom in the stock market and the actual bottom in the economy is about three months.
December 3rd, 2008 at 11:51 am
M website is http://www.buildagreaterworld.com
December 3rd, 2008 at 1:47 pm
PHILFROMBROOKLYN, IM IN NY TOO. FUCK THIS SHIT INDEED. ILL SEE YOU WHEN THE SHIT HITS
December 3rd, 2008 at 2:04 pm
Hey PHIL I’m in CT! I hope this guy is wrong but market forecasters are a dime-a-dozen.
Hey “Cycle Wave Master” would you bet your life on it?
December 3rd, 2008 at 4:55 pm
83 Puppets4Doom Says:
December 3rd, 2008 at 10:44 am
If finances allow buy some decent camping gear.
Great advise Doom. If things really get bad these stores will be looted in no time.
Checklist should include a tent and a good hunting knife.
Leaving town for the woods may be the only option for some.
The scouts moto, BE PREPARED.
Good hunting is cheaper than supermarkets which may be empty.
December 3rd, 2008 at 6:31 pm
How about that airline food?
December 3rd, 2008 at 6:33 pm
Alex Jones for President!!!!!!!!
December 3rd, 2008 at 9:05 pm
84 Cycle Wave Master Says:
December 3rd, 2008 at 11:42 am
I’m a top market forecaster and I see a bottom in the stock market about Dec 12-15. The lead time for a bottom in the stock market and the actual bottom in the economy is about three months.
AND I’M MARY POPPINGS. GET A LIFE.
December 3rd, 2008 at 9:12 pm
68 David Says:
December 3rd, 2008 at 12:14 am
I would like to respond to the comments by truthmonster. You do not bother me or anyone else with a good heart. Obviously you are useless to the discussion. I recommend to everyone:
1) Storable food
2) Debt reduction
3) Form a team of people who will gather with you in times of crisiss
4) Prepare to evacuate quickly
5) Home School NOW! Imagine they pull the pin when your children are at school and they use them to blak mail you!
6) Stay tuned and have low tech communications so you can’t be cut off
7) Expose the liars on the media to the truth
Self defense is avoidance and anticipation
9) Invest in tangibles – tools, infrastructure, example metal and wood lathes
10) Turn off the tv and spend time with your partner and children.
Aex jones is my primary source for information becasue he is value and information focused not petty trivial stupidities….
OBIOUSLLY YOU ARE AN IDIOT, I HAVE BEEN AN ALEX JONES GROUPIE SINCE MAY 93, AND YOU ? I HEARD ALEX’S FIRST SHOW EVER ON THE NET, AND YOU ?
I SIMPLY POINT OUT NEWBIES FOOLISHNESS AND KNOWITALLNESS EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE WRONG.
I HAVE FORGOTTEN MORE ABOUT THIS STUFF THEN YOU KNOW.
FROM TIME TO TIME I MAKE A SMART REMARK TO LIGHTEN THINGS UP, YES WE’RE SCREWED BUT THERE’S NO SENSE IN LOOSING OUR HUMANITY BECAUSE OF IT.
IF YOU CHECK OUT WHAT I SAY, YOU’LL SEE I’M RIGHT.
December 3rd, 2008 at 9:19 pm
HEY DAVE, I KNOW WHAT YOUR PROBLEM IS, I POST WHAT THE IDIOTS SAY AND RESPOND IN CAPS DUMMY.
YOU CANT EVEN DETERMIN WHATS MY COMMENT AS COMPARED TO OTHERS.
GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR AZZ DUMMY. EXPECIALLY IN THIS SUBJECT. THESE EVERYTHING IS GONNA BE FINE COMMENTS IN THIS SECTION ARE PEOPLE HOPEING TO GET PEOPLE(FOOLS ) BACK INTO THE MARKET, JUST LIKE ON MARKET CHAT BOARDS.
THEY ARE PREDATORS LOOKING FOR A BUCK.
December 3rd, 2008 at 9:21 pm
david says
4) Prepare to evacuate quickly
AND WHERE DO YOU EXPECT TO GO ? EVERYTHING YOU NEED AND MORE IS AT HOME, IF YOU BUG OUT, YOU’LL HAVE EVEN LESS.
STAND YOUR GROUND DUMMY, ONLY COWARDS RUN.
December 4th, 2008 at 12:36 am
The present is a time of overwhelming interest to all living. Rulers and statesmen, men who occupy positions of trust and authority, thinking men and women of all classes, have their attention fixed upon the events taking place about us. They are watching the relations that exist among the nations. They observe the intensity that is taking possession of every earthly element and they recognize that something great and decisive is about to take place–that the world is on the verge of a stupendous crisis.
December 4th, 2008 at 12:37 am
The calamities by land and sea, the unsettled state of society, the alarms of war, are portentous. They forecast approaching events of the greatest magnitude. The agencies of evil are combining their forces and consolidating. They are strengthening for the last great crisis. Great changes are soon to take place in our world, and the final movements will be rapid ones.–9T 11
December 4th, 2008 at 4:37 am
The problem with seeing the bottom in the stock market is that it does not consider any possible exterior factors. Webbot has been saying for a long time that something very big will happen on December 10th, how would that affect your bottom on the 12th to 15th?
December 4th, 2008 at 4:51 am
94 truthmonster Says:
December 3rd, 2008 at 9:21 pm
david says
4) Prepare to evacuate quickly
AND WHERE DO YOU EXPECT TO GO ? EVERYTHING YOU NEED AND MORE IS AT HOME, IF YOU BUG OUT, YOU’LL HAVE EVEN LESS.
STAND YOUR GROUND DUMMY, ONLY COWARDS RUN.
Yes David stand your ground when your house is burning and you are a single parent with little kids choking.
You need to have the option of getting out quickly with everything in transit ready to go.
You will be suprised how little you need to be a surviver and when those instincts kick in you will give yourself the best chance of survival.
December 4th, 2008 at 5:19 am
buy gold and silver.
December 4th, 2008 at 7:09 am
LOL! so we will see 2000 on the dow then? The bottom will be below 2000 a year from now.
I have no WS agenda like u. U wall street morons are astounding.
I’m a top market forecaster and I see a bottom in the stock market about Dec 12-15
December 4th, 2008 at 7:10 am
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This is a planned and executed collapse
of America’s financial underpinnings:
Planned Destruction of America
http://planneddestructionofamerica.blogspot.com/
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December 4th, 2008 at 7:53 am
Peter Schiff wrote this in October.
There is no way I could do this so I’m going to get screwed big time
By Peter Schiff
October 10, 2008
If you are a mortgage holder who is either struggling with crushing payments, bitter for having overpaid for your home during the bubble, or who has extravagantly refinanced when prices were rising, the government’s landmark $700 billion bailout package has an important message for you: stop making your mortgage payments . . . immediately. Furthermore, if you believe that with some planning and sacrifice you may be able to meet your mortgage obligations, the government’s message is clear: relax, don’t bother.
While angry voters have labeled the package as a bailout for Wall Street, it is more akin to a “Get out of Jail Free” card for anyone who acted irresponsibly during the boom. Here’s why.
Nobody likes foreclosure, least of all politicians. The new law clearly indicates that the government will make major efforts to reduce foreclosures through “term extensions, rate reductions and principal write-downs” of the troubled mortgages that it buys from the private sector. In other words, your new landlord will bend over backward to keep you in your home. The legislation telegraphs this by including a provision that extends until 2013 the exclusion of loan reductions from taxable income.
When a financial institution holds a mortgage, homeowners must live with the fear of foreclosure. Private institutions only have obligations to shareholders. In the case of a defaulting borrower, they will look to recover as much of their principal as possible. If foreclosure is their best option, they will take it in a heartbeat.
The government has no such obligations. Its only goal is to keep voters happy. After supposedly bailing out the fat cats on Wall Street, no politician wants to be accused of evicting struggling families. Once you understand this, all of your anxiety should melt away. Why pay your mortgage if foreclosure is off the table, and if you know that lower payments, and possibly a reduced loan amount, would result? A tarnished a credit rating is a small price to pay for such a benefit.
Unfortunately, this boon will not extend to those foolish individuals who either made large down payments or resisted the temptation of cashing out equity. The large amount of home equity built up by these suckers, I mean homeowners, means that in the case of default foreclosure remains a financially attractive option. As a result, these loans will be much less likely to be turned over to the government.
If your mortgage does become the property of Uncle Sam, the growingly popular impulse to “just walk away” should be replaced by “just stay and stop paying.” No one will throw you out. After a few months, or years, of living payment free, you will get a call from a motivated government agent eager to adjust your loan into something affordable.
To bolster your bargaining position it will help to be able to claim poverty. As a result, if you have any savings, spend it soon, before they call. Buy a bigger TV, a new wardrobe, or better yet, take a vacation. After the hardship of spending all of your refi cash, you probably deserve it. If you have any guilt just remember, Washington argues that consumer spending is the best way to stimulate the economy. Living beyond your means is a patriotic duty.
If you do get the opportunity to live for a while with no mortgage payment, don’t make the tragic mistake of using your extra cash to pay down your credit cards. As the growing level of credit card defaults will soon push credit card companies into bankruptcy, we can expect a similar bailout plan for American Express and Discover Financial. When that happens, expect massive balance reductions for Americans who can demonstrate the inability to pay. The bigger your balance, the greater the benefit.
Taxpayers, however, will not be so lucky. The savvy investment strategists who see the government turning a tidy profit on its mortgage purchases have not factored in the incentives that will discourage nonpayment. The only way the government will be able to profit would be to buy the mortgages at deep discounts to actual loan values. However, if the purchase prices are too low, the plan will bankrupt the institutions it is trying to bail out. On the other hand, if it substantially overpays, which seems far more likely, it will bankrupt the nation.
In any event, as more and more borrowers succumb to the allure and safety of nonpayment, look for the number of troubled assets to swell. This will ensure that the $700 billion merely represents the first installment in what will be a multitrillion-dollar plan. Just as government policies provided the primary impetus in blowing up the housing bubble earlier in the decade, its latest attempt at market manipulation will only result in making a terrible problem far worse.
December 4th, 2008 at 8:45 am
As the past indicates, big changes come in jumps and jolts, so we can probably expect at lot of changes hitting us and others all around the world in a big wave. What to do? I wish I had an idea.
My guess is that the USA political structure will break up, like Dr. Igor Panarin predicts. His time line is 2011 to 2012, so there is probably time to get ready. No need to panic – - just plan on a simplier life out of the metro areas.
December 4th, 2008 at 10:24 am
This guy is amazing. He has correctly predicted so many events it is uncanny. I’m going to start storing food for the future! Check out GloomBoom.com for other interesting economic news.
December 4th, 2008 at 11:32 am
Battle down the hatches, the worse is yet to come!
December 4th, 2008 at 11:34 am
Buy all the gold and silver you can. The dollar is gonna collapse.
December 4th, 2008 at 12:55 pm
Buy What?
beans, metals, then what?
when to SELL precious metals?
Will lead, D.U. best any coins?
December 4th, 2008 at 1:43 pm
Truthmonster you don’t ‘keep things light!’ – you may have been here since the dawn of time but your taunts add nothing. Also my friend, you say that having a fast escape route planned and practiced is cowardice. I’m sorry that you do not understand asymetrical warfare. Please explain how staying with your family in the line of fire is bravery???? I was sure my list of things to prepare would tweak your ego because instead of using your knowledge for the good you fill these boards by repeating idiocy. I would suggest that everyone read carefully your posts you ‘rank pulling’ mocker.
Bravery is getting your family out – bravery is preparing and uniting with your friends. Bravery is not fighting in a blaze of glory like a rambo movie. Bravery is infiltration, evassion, sabotage and decapitation. If you advise people to stay and fight you are leading them to death or camps.
I suggest constructive comments that take in the scope of the problem. Mocking people helps nothing and repeating their stupidity is pure ‘mockingbird’ regardless of your justifications. If I misjudged you I am sorry but the crash of ‘09 impies preparation and purpose.
I would love you to say what you would advise in the coming times….
December 4th, 2008 at 1:48 pm
The secret of force is not to fight but to flow with – use your opponents energy against them. That is why prison planet is brilliant – It takes their confessed plans and exposes it to the light. I suggest emailing this out to everyone so that they can think for themselves. We must use this collapse to galvanise and mobilise the people against the elite.
Kind Regards
David
December 4th, 2008 at 7:53 pm
I agree with the Schiff analysis. If you’re underwater on a home mortgage, walk away from it and go rent an apartment. The Mortgage Forgiveness Debt Relief Act of 2007 allows exemptions from “capital gains” (unpaid mortgage installments) with no tax liability. You’ll be one of millions of citizens making this decision so do it while you can – they could rescind the act when the deluge begins. Another possibility – 401K and IRA assets will be “frozen” in an ever sinking stock market. The extent of this disaster bodes some welcome changes – the end of the two party system in America. We will survive this ordeal.
December 5th, 2008 at 12:48 pm
the trouble i have every time i hear about revolution in america, is that first of all, the people who caused the problems are the very same ones engineering the so called revolution, the same people who each time they set up one of these revolutions, are not content to simply overthrow a particular set of rulers, but to do it with a very large dose of psycho-drama theater, for ex: the french revolution, where psyops, mental tortures, street theater was rampant, I expect the street theater in revolution america -complete with ear ringing 3 a.m. wake up calls from god- will make fellini and dali look like amateurs
December 5th, 2008 at 3:54 pm
Good points guys; THX91101 and winnie all of need to sensibly prepare because celente is rarely wrong…
December 6th, 2008 at 11:37 am
a fast escape route planned and practiced is cowardice.
MY GOD YOUR AN AZZ.
I’M NOT GOING ANYWHERE AND I SAID NO SUCH THING. EVERYTHING I NEED IS HERE AT HOME. ON THE ROAD I’LL HAVE NOTHING NOT EVEN SHELTER.
KISS MY ASS YOU STOOGE.
GET A FKEN CLUE.
YOU CAN SPELL, BUT YOU CANT COMPREHEND WHAT YOU READ.
GEEEZE.
December 6th, 2008 at 11:40 am
AGAIN I SEE YOUR PROB IDIOT, I QUOTED SOMEONE ELSE.
I ANSWER POSTS IN CAPS DUMMY, THATS THE SECOND TIME I SAID THAT.
CANT YOU FRIGGEN READ ?
December 6th, 2008 at 11:47 am
LET IT ALL CRASH.
I PAID CASH FOR MY MODEST HOME. I HAVE A DIESEL GEN. TO RUN MY WELL 300 GALLONS OF USED MOTOR OIL TO RUN IT I GOT FOR FREE AT THE OIL CHANGE PLACE DOWN THE STREET., LOTS OF GAME IN THE MOUNTAINS. WILD TURKEYS IN MY BACK YARD.
I’VE BEEN PREPARING FOR THIS SINCE 93.
SEVERAL TIMES IN OHIO THERE WERE BLIZZARDS AND THE ROADS WERE CLOSED SO I STAYED HOME FROM WORK, WALKED INTO MY STORAGE AND BROKE OUT ROAST BEEF IN THE CAN, SOME RICE AND VEGS, OPENED A 2 LIETER BOTTLE OF SODA AND WATCHED TV WHILE EVERYONE ELSE SCRAMBLED AND COMPLAINED.
EVERYONE ONCE IN A WHILE I GOT UP AND THREW A LOG INTO THE BEN FRANKLIN STOVE AND SAT BACK DOWN.
DURING THE POWER OUTAGE IN 2001, I WAS THE ONLY WITH POWER AND FOOD FOR 50 MILES IN EVERY DIRECTION.
LET IT CRASH, JUST A BUMP IN THE ROAD FOR ME. I CAN GO YR’S WITHOUT LEAVING HOME..
AND HOW ABOUT YOU SMARTY PANTS ?
December 6th, 2008 at 4:44 pm
Thursday, November 20, 2008
November 20, 2008
I could see families coming together to share a Thanksgiving Meal. Jesus said: “My people, when your families come together, you should ask them to pray a rosary so that all of you could come together at the time of the Warning and martial law. You may even advise them how to prepare for this coming tribulation at the refuges. Your prayers to bring family members back to My sacraments will be answered most after the Warning when they will be more open to your evangelization efforts. I love My people and this Warning experience is My mercy for all sinners to be saved. You have free will to choose to follow Me and those, who do so, will find My reward on earth and in heaven.”
December 6th, 2008 at 9:29 pm
When people call for revolution, they don’t know what they are asking. Revolutions, by their definition, are not pretty. Think the French Revolution, the Russian Revolution or Pol Pot’s killing field.
Lowell McKown
Amarillo, Texas
December 7th, 2008 at 7:47 am
Truthmonster…your arrogance will be your downfall. The starving, angry masses will eventually come across the smoke from your stove, the noise of your generator, and the light from your modest house. Sure you will keep some at bay, but in the end your will become an ideal target. While I understand your preparedness, and have done so myself, do not think you will be safe (armed or not) sitting around, gloating in comfort while other suffer.
December 7th, 2008 at 10:50 am
The guy who wrote that Jesus Said “Jesus said: “My people, when your families come together, you should ask them to pray a rosary so that all of you could come together at the time of the Warning and martial law. You may even advise them how to prepare for this coming tribulation at the refuges. Your prayers to bring family members back to My sacraments will be answered most after the Warning when they will be more open to your evangelization efforts. I love My people and this Warning experience is My mercy for all sinners to be saved. You have free will to choose to follow Me and those, who do so, will find My reward on earth and in heaven.”
JESUS SAID NO SUCH THING – your meme is tained with Roman catholic idead – no rosary existed. this is known as False doctrine to the point of being funny. what is your biblical sitation. IN FACT – there is not free will. and ther rest of your lie is not worth anyones time to listen to go away to another page.
December 7th, 2008 at 3:49 pm
People in this country have a short memory. Back in the 1970’s we had riots and major fires in at least 45 major US cities. For example, bank branches in Newark, NJ had sand bagged machine gun nests in their lobby. National Guard troops with loaded rifles were stationed on roof tops, etc. Back in the 1930s the army was called in to clear out WWI vets in Washington, DC. There were labor strikes where Pinkerton Guards were called in to shoot or beat up strikers. I am not saying a revolution is going to happen and that there will be any organization to it, but even Paulson alluded to civil unrest unless economic events stablized.
December 7th, 2008 at 4:03 pm
Positive Change For – We The People
The current Bush Administration and the possible coming Obama Administration need to be about positive change for We the People if this nation is to survive this economic malady.
The current Bush Administration and the possible coming Obama Administration needs to avoid at all costs any continued rape, extortion, and destruction of a nation with traditions and redeeming heritage like no other in the world.
America stands for more than the pillage and intimidation of other nations. America stands for freedom, human rights and development of individual dreams.
If America wants change; wants to save We the People; wants to grow We the People; seeks to encourage We the People; and continue to protect, defend and preserve We the People; and wants the following outcomes:
• Boost and stimulate the economy,
• Decrease and eliminate current consumer debt,
• Decrease the national debt and save America from certain economic demise,
• Encourage national consumer saving,
• And fund a more transparent bail out than the current one offered Wall Street, and Citibank -
Then I recommend that the United States Treasury offer every working United States citizen a $1500 voucher per month for one or two years to be applied towards just their debts such as current outstanding:
• Mortgage loans,
• Auto loans,
• Credit card debt,
• Medical expenses,
• And verifiable personal debt.
If the employed United States citizen does not continue working then the voucher stops until they are employed again:
• Each month that the United States citizen is employed, the individual will receive the $1500 voucher.
• The United States citizen must be working 35 hours a week whether fulltime or part-time. United States citizen must always be working to receive the $1500 voucher.
• United States citizens who are self employed must show that they are earning a living each month working 35 hours per week to receive the $1500 voucher.
If the United States citizen is in college or technical training fulltime, they too receive a $1500 voucher paid to them, the parent, or their guardian:
• As long as they maintain a “C” average grades each reporting period and
• United States citizens cannot double dip and get $1500 for being in school and $1500 for working.
Each United States citizen child under the age of eighteen who lives at home with their biological parents, foster parents, or guardian will receive a $500 voucher each month which is to be used towards schooling, meals, school related activities, tutoring, school supplies, etc.
• The $500 student voucher will continue for one or two years as long as the United States citizen child remains in school.
• If the United States citizen child leaves school, is expelled, drops out or is excessively absent from school, then the $500 voucher will cease until the student returns to school, fulltime and carries a average “C” grade each month/quarter.
It does not matter that the United States citizen is in the military. The same voucher options apply to the United States citizen active duty member and their dependents:
• Each active duty military personnel will receive a $1500 voucher each month and each dependent will receive a $500 voucher a month.
The following United States citizens will receive a voucher option each month:
• Retired over 65 years of age
• Disabled
• Certified seriously mentally ill, as determined by national standards.
Will be eligible for a $1500 voucher each month to augment or supplement any earnings the individual receives from retirement funds or disability funds to be applied to pay down any and all debt. If the above United States citizens are also caring for a minor United States citizen child then that child is eligible for the same $500 voucher afforded other children stated above.
By initiating the above vouchers, the United States will save money, save assets, save consumers the loss of their homes, prevent bankruptcies, promote economic growth within the nation and significantly decrease the national debt saving our great nation from another Great Depression.
**Voucher fraud, black-marketing in vouchers, and extorting individuals using vouchers as a weapon will result in racketeering charges, loss of property and long-term, irrevocable community service commitments.
December 7th, 2008 at 4:22 pm
120 Tom Says:
December 7th, 2008 at 3:07 pm
Beware, a jew judge dicked away OJ, because of Goldman intervention. OJ was set up by Goldman and jews. And the final assault will be upon all remaning gentiles. Therre will be no return to economic normalcy and prosperity until all zionist jews are expelled to Israel.
OH GO FK YOURSELF, THEY PUT HIM AWAY FOR ARMED ROBBERY DUMBAZZ.
December 7th, 2008 at 4:23 pm
118 DestroyerofWorlds Says:
December 7th, 2008 at 7:47 am
Truthmonster…your arrogance will be your downfall. The starving, angry masses will eventually come across the smoke from your stove, the noise of your generator, and the light from your modest house. Sure you will keep some at bay, but in the end your will become an ideal target. While I understand your preparedness, and have done so myself, do not think you will be safe (armed or not) sitting around, gloating in comfort while other suffer.
I WILL DROP THEM AS FAST AS THEY COME, AND EAT THEM.
December 7th, 2008 at 6:12 pm
2008 panic.
2009, collapse…
2010 round ups
1012, worldwide police state.
STOP THE FREEAKS.
December 7th, 2008 at 6:42 pm
more will be revealed…………9/11/01 was just the beginning of the obviousness of the extortion, rape and pillaging of the American and world citizenry………..the gig is up, Amerikaka showed its hand and Bush and his cronies still live high off the land……..everyone I know is unemployed and not all can apply for unemployment benefits……….now what?…make no mistake about it, there are many of us who know that the only reason they did not steal the election this time is because they want to enjoy the last crumbs while they watch the sheeple squirm…….this is beyond disgusting and there is no where to go………
December 7th, 2008 at 7:11 pm
It does sound like you are prepared truthmonster, I would still suggest having an escape plan. This is just a pure common sense thing similar to practicing with your family a fire drill. I understand your points but repeating the foolish is time wasting. Here’s a question for you and everyone else. What are you doing to prepare for this collapse?
I don’t care about useless flag waving whilst my family suffers. I am living in Austalia in a state called Queensland. Guess what the government has done? They have as of the 1st of december put flouride in our water! We are all under attack and need to consciously check our selves becasue my spirit tells me the world is in for a massive shift in power, wealth and liberty.
Kind Regards
December 7th, 2008 at 9:59 pm
Cmon now guys. You can do better than this phony zio-fraud Celente. He predicted what last year what was obvious 5 years ago- when it was already a foregone conclusion to everyone but the MSM/gov media whores? This guy Celente is full of shit and getting paid a pretty penny while peddling himself as the expert. Why, we at ABC News were researching intensively on the ‘çoming housing crash’ in winter 2002. Now THAT is foresight and trend prediction. Give us a break and start demanding credit for the REAL pioneers, prophets and heros who actually DID predict this- LONG BEFORE anyone else and they took the lumps/ostracsim for it. Like Peter Schiff, Grant Jeffrey (14 years ago when derivatives were first being “developed as a scam).
PLEASE STOP giving credence and furthering the careers of mediocrities.
Another jewish plagiarist touted by the jewish mob media.
December 7th, 2008 at 10:05 pm
truthmonster you should be on me me me space
December 7th, 2008 at 11:16 pm
I feel sorry for those who have there heads stuck in the sand.
Denial will get ya nowhere folks. Prep and prep pretty darn fast
cause the hammer is comin down
December 8th, 2008 at 1:28 am
In 2005 i moved from Australia to the United States to work in the lucritive video game development industry, at that time i knew very little about and did not care a great deal about politics or the issues which exist today. At first America appeared to be the great nation that i thought i was entering, but after spending more and more time looking into the issues that were presenting themselves, finally taking an interest in politics and the world stage i realized that my worst fears had been realized….. The conspiracies were all true!
I then spent three years researching and doing all that i could to spread the world, but the more time i spend trying to warn those around me; the more it became apparent that these Americans were indeed crippled by fear, stupidity and had become blind to the reality that surrounded them in absolute darkness. I should feel sorry for the American people, i should feel bad because i know what is coming, i know how tough their lives about to become….
But i don’t, the American people need to wake up… Will this be their alarm clock?
December 8th, 2008 at 8:42 am
You guys make it sound like dawn of the dead! lol
December 8th, 2008 at 11:38 am
keep all your weapons and store them where ready to defend with plenty ammo
bad moon arising
we have already lost 95 % of our retirements
wall street s bad deals
with derivatives ..cdo ’s and some other crooked deals
get the book for your family and friends
December 8th, 2008 at 8:56 pm
I think your right voiceofcommonsense. G’day from queensland. Unfortunately I dont think its contained to America. The world is in danger from these control freaks.
Kind Regards
December 9th, 2008 at 11:10 am
#15 MICRODOOF: WHY DO YOU THINK THEY’VE STEPPED UP THE CHEMTRAIL SPRAYING? PEOPLE WOULD RATHER BELIEVE IT DOESN’T EXIST OR ITS NORMAL EVEN THOUGH ITS RIGHT IN OUR FACES AND NOTHING NORMAL ABOUT IT. REDDING CA.
December 11th, 2008 at 12:20 pm
Secret CON-gress meeting WAS March 13th!! oh-ate. Financial breakdown in September 08, PAST TENSE!!! Total GOV-URN-MENTE’ COLON-ASPE’ in FEB 2009!!!
December 11th, 2008 at 5:34 pm
put detergent in the molotov cocktails[petrol bombs] makes the flame stick to things like napalm does.buy ammo .
December 11th, 2008 at 7:34 pm
oldville you are right about defense but not your advice about bombs. Peaceful resistence, everyone rising as one, this is the way my friend. The infowar is being won by the truth movement. You watch and believe it because if you thought that we were exposing the evil few before – wait until they go too far. Over night they will be hunted down and bought to justice. They know they’ve lost all credibility and are losing their grip. I predict even faster growth for alex once he establishes a cable truth network.
As regards those who are quick to get it on, I suggest peaceful takeovers at the local level, kepp your beliefs quit until you get in and expose and change thing from the ground up. Take care over there in America because your name is being sullied by your government. Everyone here hates the Australian goverment and think that they are all liars.
Kind Regards
January 13th, 2009 at 10:35 am
I think all in all the forex market is easily the fastest growing in the world, obviously not by the standard of capital but by new investors. Indeed, its a great time to be a trader.
January 23rd, 2009 at 5:20 am
B Hussein Obama’s first order to free Muslim prisoners most of whom vowed to kill American innocent men, women and children is hardly any surprise. However, it would be a lot easier and safer for us to build a monument on the DC Mall to the fallen Muslim Pilots of 911. Maybe that will be his second executive order?
January 25th, 2009 at 9:07 pm
Wow there are a lot of uninformed and or just plain wacko posters here. Guess what u religious wackjobs. There is no religious apocalypse coming. There is no jesus coming from the sky. Can u nuts stop trying to kill everyone? U christofascists are just the same as these islamofascists. Get over urselves already. U don’t own my future or that of the destiny of man. People have been saying the rapture is nigh for 1600 years. So think about it.
February 16th, 2009 at 8:37 am
Blah blah blah. How many times people predict the end of the world and how incredible that everyone predicted all the previous calamities. Well at least this author is working the capitalist system to their advantage and selling fear (wonder is hee is keeping dollars or euros)
The comet is coming and the sky is falling….
As far as America is concern we’ll get out of this situation (as always) stronger and better and by 2010 we’ll be talking about the future because we are a country of go getters and not Cassandras
February 20th, 2009 at 11:43 am
If I hear one more stupid illuminati statement I will projectile vomit. There is no Illuminati…just a bunch of greedy billionaires who attempt to concoct with one another…but remember Greed, by nature, is a natural repellent…mistrust attracts mistrustful peiople by and large…they feed off each other…and justs when any plan coalesces, one of them screws the other…a slippery slope attempt to control the world.
Are we going into a depression? sure…will there be hardship? sure…Will the US lose is #1 rating? sure…Will it descend into darkness? ridiculous…it will become a 6th rate country supported by its new found nationalism…but buying a Fiat will be out of the question!
Some common sense is needed folks…hardship brings on pain and then resourcefullness…though I do recommend having your own legal firearms, as some will not adjust calmly.
March 5th, 2009 at 8:30 pm
If Mr. Celente is correct in his view of 2009, that explains why the US in not in the Bible during the end of days.
If you know Jesus Christ as your personal Saviour, then you have nothing to worry about. He will take care of our every need!
March 15th, 2009 at 5:52 pm
Why are the Mousketeers or ANYTHING they say relevant?
March 22nd, 2009 at 6:32 pm
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