There’s already money going into developing geoengineering plans to combat rising temps on this planet. Shell Oil has stepped forward as an early supporter. There are a myriad suggestions on how to use mega-engineering projects to combat global warming. Sulphurous gases sprayed into the upper atmosphere. Blocks some solar radiation. Billions of aluminized, hydrogen-filled balloons in the stratosphere. Huge reflector mirros in space. Send the sun’s rays away from earth. Making the oceans more carbon dioxide absorbent. Takes CO2 out of the atmosphere. The United Nations’ IPCC has already begun to catalog proposals for large scale geoengineering.
Geoengineering has two major attractions. Governments like it because it can appear simple and means taking expensive action. Does not depend on conservation or asking or forcing people to change their energy use patterns. Corporations–maybe an oil company–can like it because it means huge expenditure of government money to hire private companies and engineering experts to carry out the geoengineering. This could make military and space exploration costs look tiny. Imagine in a few years: an entire planet of TV viewers glued to their sets to see if the International Atmopsheric Control Agency and its vendors can save humankind for only a few trillion dollars, or rubles if the US is bankrupt by then.
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Here’s a research paper outlining some of the more prominent geoengineering proposals to combat global warming. Here’s a BBC version of what is being talked about. Here’s a CNET blog about one suphates proposal.
As you would predict, there are geoengine-naysayers. Geoengineering could be just another big, bad attempt by man to control the complex climatic systems he doesn’t fully understand. Interestingly, the anti-geoengineering arguments often sound much like the arguments from folks who say global warming is hooey. Don’t do it, says one UCLA scientist. When some of these proposals were first made back in 1990, they faced widespread scorn. Now the media thinks they are being taken seriously. Just wait for the Congressional hearings next year. Like Alan Greenspan pretending he can manipulate the US eocnomy.
Of course, there are no current international treaties or even informal agreements about who or how or when any geoengineering could be done, or even tested. It could be like the early days of the atomic weapons race, tests going on all over the atmosphere. Sulphates vs. aluminum balloons, think of it as the gaseous Olympics.
August 19th, 2008 at 3:44 am
Yesterday: “There are no chemtrails”…
Today: “They are persistant contrails – ask NASA. You’re just being paranoid”…
Tomorrow: “Persistant contrails are actually good for the planet – and to make them even more effective, well, we’ve come up with this idea…”
August 19th, 2008 at 4:42 am
“To make them more effective in saving us from global warming we will just add a little bit of liquid H5N1, just a tiiiny little bit!”
August 19th, 2008 at 8:12 am
Why not just do a global push towards organic food vegetarianism. It will help out in more ways than a giant mirror in the sky.
Think about it.
August 19th, 2008 at 11:58 am
iSNT it intresting when the planet is reported to be cooling,,into an ICE AGE…what are the effects of these condinitonings to the planet to depleate the heat we have now…is this a good thing for us..or are they trying to push us into an earlier ice age.
August 19th, 2008 at 12:04 pm
rember the sun isnt preduceing heat now sense 400 days. or more. ..hat maeans no new light is comeing down on the planet…or as much as needed.. to heat the whole planet…if we remove the heat thats inplace…well
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August 19th, 2008 at 12:59 pm
We need meat to survive! That’s why not. Why eat poisoned veggies, organicism doesn’t exist… this earth will poison and destroy the species that is damaging it.
August 19th, 2008 at 1:11 pm
6,666B/
6,602,224,175 the real mark
a mark is a signifing thing..not an mystical force..
August 20th, 2008 at 4:33 am
Does history repeat itself? Zecariah Sitchin and other authors have transalated Sumerian cuneiform tablets illustrating how an extraterestrial race: the “gods” came to this planet in search of gold to use in its pulverized form as part of a plan to repair the damaged atmospheric layer surrounding their planet, Nibiru. After experiencing the back breaking labor of mining the gold themselves they eventually produced a slave race that was a cross between the primitive earthling women and their men. They used their women as the vehicles for in vitro fertilization.
Whether this is truth that’s been carefully hidden from us or myth is an issue for another time. What are the chances though that our science community would be proposing very similar things after the same set of circumstances have played out on this planet. Even if they are misrepresenting the evidence to a large extent? These cuneiforms are tens of thousands of years old. The extraterestrial race called themselves the Annunaki. Also known as the Anakim in modern Bible translations.
Consider these Bible passages:
Deutoronomy 1:28 Where are we going up? Our brothers have caused our heart to melt, saying: “A people greater and taller than we are, cities great and fortified to the heavens and also the sons of the An´a·kim we saw there
Numbers 13:33 And there we saw the Neph´i·lim, the sons of A´nak, who are from the Neph´i·lim; so that we became in our own eyes like grasshoppers, and the same way we became in their eyes.”
August 20th, 2008 at 8:14 am
This sounds like another BIG waste of time and money. Global warming is not a proven scientific fact and there is no universal agreement among scientists that it is even a problem!
Sounds like another SCAM to me… kind of like putting poisonous fluoride in your water:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dental_fluorosis
August 20th, 2008 at 4:31 pm
@Article
This just goes to show you HOW desperate the elites are for you to NOT stop paying them for your energy needs. Why is there money going into putting MORE pollution into the atmosphere to offset the pollution they are already putting into the atmosphere, but just about nothing (in comparison) is being spent on REDUCING pollution!
Take THIS technology, which won’t need to put more pollution into the atmosphere, but ALSO stops you from having to pay the elites for your energy needs:
“CAMBRIDGE, Massachusetts (Reuters) – A U.S. scientist has developed a new way of powering fuel cells that could make it practical for home owners to store solar energy and produce electricity to run lights and appliances at night.
A new catalyst produces the oxygen and hydrogen that fuel cells use to generate electricity, while using far less energy than current methods.”
“Current methods of producing hydrogen and oxygen for fuel cells operate in a highly corrosive environment, Nocera said, meaning the entire reaction must be carried out in an expensive highly-engineered container.
But at MIT this week, the reaction was going on in an open glass container about the size of two shot glasses that researchers manipulated with their bare hands, with no heavy safety gloves or goggles.”
“”It’s cheap, it’s efficient, it’s highly manufacturable, it’s incredibly tolerant of impurity and it’s from earth-abundant stuff,” Nocera explained.
Nocera has not tried to construct a full-sized version of the system, but suggested that the technologies to bring this into a typical home could be ready in less than a decade.”
http://uk.reuters.com/article/.....1020080731
Cheap, efficient, non-polluting, AND you can have one in your own home, ending the need for you to pay for electricity at least, and if efficient enough, even for car fuels.
Where is the money to make THIS a reality in ten years?
Did you notice who this article says are KEEN on geoengineering? Is it any wonder that AEI and all these elite mouthpieces push THAT idea rather than the far saner, and far better for both the environment and YOUR wallet, MIT system? The largest source of anthropogenic CO2 is electricity generation. If we got rid of THAT source, we could very easily reduce CO2 emissions to safe levels. So why not?
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@Ed Concern
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Yesterday: “There are no chemtrails”…
Today: “They are persistant contrails – ask NASA. You’re just being paranoid”…
Tomorrow: “Persistant contrails are actually good for the planet – and to make them even more effective, well, we’ve come up with this idea…””
What do you think is causing contrails to become more persistent? It’s the increase in humidity (atmospheric water vapour) and higher atmospheric temperatures. “Chemtrails” are evidence of global warming!
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@Moron Patrol
““To make them more effective in saving us from global warming we will just add a little bit of liquid H5N1, just a tiiiny little bit!””
Apt name. You ARE a moron.
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@food
“Why not just do a global push towards organic food vegetarianism. It will help out in more ways than a giant mirror in the sky.”
It won’t help anywhere NEAR as much as the MIT system, in more ways than one.
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@WarLoPo
“iSNT it intresting when the planet is reported to be cooling,,into an ICE AGE…”
The reports are LIES. See:
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/co.....ths/2.html
“what are the effects of these condinitonings to the planet to depleate the heat we have now…is this a good thing for us..or are they trying to push us into an earlier ice age.”
Neither. The affects are bad, but they are trying to NOT have to give up their best money earner, fossil fuels. The MIT system is the LAST thing they want to have happen, and whether you believe in AGW or not, you HAVE to agree, not paying for electricity is a GOOD thing for US.
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@WarLoPo
“rember the sun isnt preduceing heat now sense 400 days. or more. ..hat maeans no new light is comeing down on the planet…or as much as needed.. to heat the whole planet…if we remove the heat thats inplace…well”
Jesus you are a retard! “no new light is comeing down on the planet”? Are you fucking nuts? A sunspot minimum happens about every 11 years, and this time is no different than any other time in the last two centuries. Stop falling for the elites BULLSHIT!
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@BeTrueSeekTruth
“What are the chances though that our science community would be proposing very similar things after the same set of circumstances have played out on this planet.”
None. Very few scientists have even suggested geoengineering, and they were talking about last ditch methods if nothing is done in time to prevent catastrophic warming. The far BETTER idea is to reduce CO2 output. Which is why the elites prefer geoengineering.
“Even if they are misrepresenting the evidence to a large extent?”
The only people misrepresenting the evidence are the people hired by the elites to do just that: the liars and deniers who are tying to fool you into believing that TENS OF THOUSANDS of scientists world wide are lying to you.
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@Robert
“This sounds like another BIG waste of time and money.”
That it is! It is also a trick. They want you to keep paying for one lot of pollution and then pay for another lot of pollution to offset the damage done by the first lot. Then they will get you to pay to fix the damage the second lot causes and so on.
The MIT system I showed above is far saner, cleaner, cheaper AND has the added benefit of depriving the elite of a lot of their money, and keeping it in YOUR pocket. That’s why the elite don;t want you to even THINK about supporting the MIT system.
“Global warming is not a proven scientific fact”
Yes it is. Not even the liars and deniers claim otherwise. What THEY say is that WE aren’t causing it, even though it is 95% certain that we are, and in science, that is a VERY high probability figure. The fact is, it is real, and we are causing it.
“there is no universal agreement among scientists that it is even a problem!”
Actually there is. Of the tens of thousands of climate scientists, only a small handful say we aren’t causing global warming, and a few more are saying that maybe the damage won’t be all that bad.
In science, that is pretty much universal.
Of course if you try and include people who know nothing about climate science (like medical doctors) then there a maybe a few tens of thousands who doubt AGW. But that is out of the MILLIONS of such people (medical doctors etc), and is directly attributable to the LIES being pushed by fossil fuel company paid liars and deniers and their corporate media allies.