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  • George W. Bush’s Legacy: A $ 10 Trillion National Debt

    Doug Mataconis
    Below The Beltway
    Sunday, Oct 5, 2008

    By the time he leaves office, George W. Bush will have increased the national debt more than any other President in American history:

    With no fanfare and little notice, the national debt has grown by more than $4 trillion during George W. Bush’s presidency.

    It’s the biggest increase under any president in U.S history.

    On the day President Bush took office, the national debt stood at $5.727 trillion. The latest number from the Treasury Department shows the national debt now stands at more than $9.849 trillion. That’s a 71.9 percent increase on Mr. Bush’s watch.

    But wait, there’s more:

    The bailout plan now pending in Congress could add hundreds of billions of dollars to the national debt – though President Bush said this morning he expects that over time, “much if not all” of the bailout money “will be paid back.”

    But the government is taking no chances. Buried deep in the hundred pages of bailout legislation is a provision that would raise the statutory ceiling on the national debt to $11.315 trillion. It’ll be the 7th time the debt limit has been raised during this administration. In fact it was just two months ago, on July 30, that President Bush signed the Housing and Economic Recovery Act, which contained a provision raising the debt ceiling to $10.615 trillion.

    Of course Bush didn’t do it alone, for six years he had a Republican-controlled Congress that helped him do it. Because of both of them, the Republican Party has lost all credibility with the American voter as the party of fiscal conservatism. It will take a long time to earn that reputation back.

    Thanks a lot, Mr. President. For nothing other than a boat load of debt.

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    63 Responses to “George W. Bush’s Legacy: A $ 10 Trillion National Debt”

    1. Sylvain Racine Says:

      I do not get you American people. I thought that Bush and his neocons were against market regulation, that they were against “socialism”. So, if after eight year of no regulation and of no to socialism, why the hell the national debt has more than double?

      Is this a sign that your country is totally finished?

    2. mythicshadow Says:

      welcome to amerika

      http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=Vv3yuRdD2oE

    3. "C" Says:

      The Bush family and their cohorts are all NAZI’S…
      Nazi’s steal, lie, cheat, control and kill…and they have done all of this to America!
      …the end game is : the whole world will now suffer.
      …The Nazi plan of world Control is now running on all cylinders…

    4. Brian Swartz Says:

      The time is now if you dont store food and weapons you will be under total control in the breadlines, the American people must now stand up and fight back, or is it too late?

    5. Christar999 Says:

      I realize now why I was picked on in school & at work my whole life…
      I am not a mindless drone!
      Most of my fellow slaves are threatened by my abilty to generate independent, rational thought!
      This cannot be tolerated!
      Therefore, my personality and free will must be annihilated through endless humiliation and demorilization until I finally submit.
      But I have never submitted, and I never will!
      I am a unique, and free willed individual, and I always will be!
      I will continue questioning authority, and I will continue seeking the truth about everything in this world!
      America deserves free hydrogen energy technology!
      Americans deserve affordable, naturally grown, non-gmo food!
      America deserves monetary independence from the Federal rserve by printing its own currency!
      America deserves to be free!
      To say this is not blasphemy or insanity, it is truth!

    6. melvin Says:

      After the program has been in place for a few years and its proven success the memory of prisons will exist only in a nightmare.

    7. melvin Says:

      There has to be a replacement for the ineffective and expensive prison system that serves only as a revolving door to criminals. It is costing the government 25 thousand dollars a year to house an inmate only to have them return after release. We are doing something wrong and the problem has to be corrected for the sake of the tax payer and victims of brazen criminals.

      An organization calling itself: ASS WHIPPING INC. is lobbying for the licence to rehabilitate lawbreakers after they have been found by the courts to be guilty of a major crime. Upon being released into the custody of ASS WHIPPING INC. the guilty party will receive a good ass whipping and if necessary put under the long term custody of ASS WHIPPING INC. The state will be billed for the service. It is estimated that the cost to the taxpayer will be only 10 thousand a year for each lawbreaker in custody. It would result in the closing of all prisons and a savings of over 250 billion a year.

      Prisoners released to the custody of ASS WHIPPING INC. will be treated humanely unless they break the rules. There will be no detention cells because each criminal under their custody would be free but under close supervision. The supervisors of the program will all be trained with a mind on rehabilitation and severe punishment for lawbreakers. Each person in custody would recieve a surgically implanted device which will signal their supervisor if any of the rules were broken. After the program has been in place for a few years and its proven success the memory of prisons will exist only in a nightmare.

    8. jos boersema Says:

      First mistake of revolutionary Americans over the past 4 weeks: you`ve yet to organize yourselves and to comprehend real economics. Real economics is pretty much exclusively about work and pay for work, rather then investments that make a person rich while others work. It is all on my site, simple really, but I guess I can truly say by now I am a voice in an empty dessert, in the desert of human intelligence, or rather lack thereof.

      Here a great blueprint, just finished up some more important details, on how you can get organized in a (I think) truly democratic fashion:
      http://www.jhwh.be/party/nl/david-we/index.en.html This is a party “system” (as it where) that generates top notch democratic control (as I see it) for an organized group of any size (from 1 persons to millions, up to nation size), with the aim of having many such groups function side by side to take over your country and set it right. What better way to make a country democratic then to organize yourselves rigorously democratic in the way the country should be organized as a true democracy ?

      It will be hard right now for “them” to label a party as I outlined as illegal, but if there is some economic chaos and perhaps some (faked or real) violence going on (precisely what they need to install more oppression), that will make it easier for them.

      People planning to do “actions” should seriously considder that there is no better excuse for a dictatorship to implement further controls then a violent resistance. Indeed if there is no violent resistance they will perhaps make on up, as they did (IMHO). First get the USA public on board in majority. That could mean waiting out the first stages of dictatorship. I think it is a strategy to considder: first let the situation develop as it does without wild maveric actions that will do no good except feed the press and make the USA public afraid and cling to dictatorial government. Once there is mood swing in the USA public, because people are feeling pressure and notice a lack of reason for the oppression (if any), then it might be a better time to start with reconstructing. Maybe that mood swing will be right there from the start, or maybe there will be immedeately a chance to win if they start with a dictatorship and economic collapse, but maybe the public will first remain clinging to the state. I figure it is very important to asses that so as not to start with a counter productive strategy.

      What is the strength of the enemy in terms of physical power, weapons and so on ? What is the popularity of the regime ? What is the power of the regime over its own oppression apparatus ? How are these likely to change ? How is the public in majority going to view actions of different nature ? Going grabbing guns and march on military posts could merely bolster the army resolve against the people. In such fight we might lose valuable members who would want to risk their lives !

      Very important to have a sensible strategy, and its first aim will always need to be to get and have the majority of a public behind you. First thing to do is be the moral high-ground, and remain there, that builds popular support and eventually victory IMHO. Whatever you do: first think it through real hard, look at it from all possible angles and all possible outcomes, and what the costs and potential benefits could be. Compartmentalization is also a good idea: local groups are only known locally to each other, cooperation with other groups does not imply the need that everyone knows everyone I guess, for fear of spies, traitors, and people getting tortured until they reviel things.

    9. Howard in Shantytown U.S.A. Says:

      Congratulations!

    10. mythicshadow Says:

      our servicemen are bringing home a nasty surprise

      http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=JjRXb6juOa0

    11. NWO feeds on fear Says:

      Fade the monetary sysyem out. We don’t need it.

      I saw the new zeitgiest movie. That is the best piece of work ever made. Ever.

      Capitalism, socialism, communism, facism = monetaryism (all the same)

      There are clear ways to defeat this. It requires your help. Watch Zeitgiest Appendum!

      Alex, although you are Christian, you should add this as a bonus movie on prison planet.

      It is the best truth film…..it beats anything you’ve done Alex. That is okay to say because it is not a competition.

    12. NWO feeds on fear Says:

      Zietguist Addendum………..It has solutions!

    13. godlywarrior Says:

      hey number 12..i do think zeitgeist was very informitive, his view on religion is completly false info. not facts. the date jesus was born on was sept 9 or so. not dec 25, Jesus christ does not fit with the rest of the pagan beliefs, he lumps together. although the take on nwo is for sure , jesus christ was and still is the son of god who was raised from the dead to take away the sins of mankind. He will make every knee bow and every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is lord to the glory of God the father. Nwo is a lucifer religion. they worship lucifer the light bearer, a.k.a SATAN, so the reigion part of zeitgeist actually helps in some way the agenda of the nwo which is too abolish truth and push the true God and his son out of schools, office and out of americans hearts and minds . all these things going on were fortold in the revelation of Jesus Christ in the true word of God. Which is the Bible. God will be proven true and every man found to be a liar. It will take place in this lifetime

    14. 10commandments Says:

      Rudy – this is CQLJ. Now the site is not identifying me so this is a new moniker. Look at spirituallysmart.com Make your own judgment and don’t let the fact that it is not favorable toward Catholicism sway you or anyone else. I was a die-hard Baptist and my research led me to enough questions about my church that I effectively got kicked out by the loving pastoral staff! Truth is not always pleasant but it is our only hope of freedom.

    15. sUE Says:

      There IS a loving, merciful God who loves us and we are his children! He gave his ONLY begotten Son to die for our sins so we might have eternal life! I STRONGLY suggest ALL non-believer’s, including Jews, get your heads out of your asses and ask God’s and Jesus’s forgiveness and worship them both and ask for Jesus into your hearts and lives and NOW, UNLESS you all want to fry in hell forever?! We ARE,ARE in End Times, sheeple and ONLY God and Jesus can save us from these pure evil Satan worshipping pure evil bastards FROM BOTH PARTIES AND WORLDWIDE, PURE EVIL NWO! FACT! God DOES exist and he spoke to me LITERALLY, FACT! I knew he existed and had faith before he spoke to me but then he spoke to me and I have been blessed by him speaking to me! Wake up and repent and be saved or burn in hell forever! Your sins are not to low that you can NOT be saved from them and have eternal life so repent and NOW! We ARE in End Times sheeple! ONLY God and Jesus can save us! And stay away from Catholic church as I totally believe Pope worships Satan too and Catholic Church is tainted and corrupted too, i.e. petofile priests,etc.!

    16. G Says:

      Godlywarrior is right! I have an acquaintance who was foiled by these zeitgiest followers, for only a little while… then he realized the truth..I pray that all of you will see it for what it is, yet another distraction from the reality.
      Thank you for sharing the truth , I am going to show my friend this post!

    17. jebradstreet Says:

      Hey, let’s not get out of line here! We do not only get to thank Bush for a load of neverending debt so get it straight! We must also thank him for the death of Americans, Iraqis and too many others to name here. The woman who accused him of rape and Mr. Hunter S. Thompson are just a few who fought a battle that can only end with the happy, wealthy death of Gearge Walker Bush.
      He is the most stupid mastermind in history. We can also thank him for steps toward Martial Law and the constant state of fear for the American people.
      I hope he is a happy man as soldiers die everyday.
      http://www.butwhy.today.com

    18. 10commandments Says:

      When our savior said “take up my yoke for it is light” he was not telling us to go into bondage but to come out of bondage. We were to replace our yoke to sin and its enslavement with the freedom of Jesus Christ by repenting and serving him as lord and savior. He is the only hope of freedom. America has cast off that light yoke and there is no other alternative but a heavy yoke. Can we learn and turn or will we burn? I fear that we have murdered too many babies already and glorified the despicable “alternative lifestyle” that God said was an abomination too long and gone too deeply into other sins to escape destruction. Get ready!

      Challenge – would someone look into spirituallysmart.com regarding the ownership of this website and program and tell me why or why it is not valid? I am not in any way connected with that site so this is not an advertisement.

    19. jos boersema Says:

      Dudes, if you think jesus is coming to save you, you will get disappointed: jesus is a remake of ancient paganism mixed in with Torah/Tenach. If I recall correctly the first law from G.d in the Torah is not to “worship anyone besides the creator” to make no image of a god and worship it as if it is anything more then a dead piece of furniture, for which there isn`t even a proper use !

      Damn you creatures, pull yo head out of yo hole.

    20. Andy Says:

      and people still have the gall to brand him a “conservative” hahahah, probably the least conservative president in history .

    21. Ican Says:

      Bush and his daddy Herbert Bush are two of the worlds most dangerouse public officials. There administrations breed a dialogue of corruption steming from organized drug cartels to murder. Bush and his associates of a global government will engineer a stronger world a world were there is no religious oversight of the laws like ”take your hat off thats a sign of respect, dont smoke pot id rather you drink and drive and murder, get rape’t by your dad but remember you can’t do anything about that big belly etc” yeah i know bush blew up those towers but who cares. There is a level of wants and needs on this planet and with over 6 billion people this limit is over exceeding rapidly. Depopulation is somthing the elite want, depopulation is somthing we need. now who’s ready for a better life where you can learn all day and live much longer with out fucken stupid people bickering about what sex you marry. or who you vote for. Don’t you people see what this new world order is about. Its destroying religion, the very thing prevents society from achieve its goals OVERTHROW THE RELIGION

    22. Porky pig Says:

      …Ah-bdi…be damn !!! The buddhists say ” Your ennemy shows you your weak spots “!!!
      Some might argue that the weak spot is the wallet !!! I’m afraid that the
      ” Wallet black hole syndrome ” might just be a symptom , and that the bottom line
      is more , shall we say , ” depressing ” !?!

    23. Lookout Says:

      If you have any stocks, I predict a first hour dead cat bounce tomorrow at opening and a plunge of 1000 to 3000 points. Tomorrow will be black monday!

    24. Joe in JT Says:

      Once again “W” Bush leaves his familiar legacy. Take over a company (Babusto, Texas Rangers baseball team, United States of America) completely ruin it financially, and suffer no conscequences because his last name is “Bush”. As always to save the organization, good honest people waiting in the wings come in behind Bush to “sweep up the mess he leaves behind.” This time he left a 5 trillion dollar turd on our plate, and we’re all going to have to take a bite.

    25. H&K G91 LOCKED AND LOADED Says:

      Isnt it funny how many world changing historical events have occured since Bush has been president? Its pretty incredible actually…Coincidence? I dont think so…

    26. H&K G91 LOCKED AND LOADED Says:

      Oh… Please please please vote for my band… it only takes 5 seconds, and we win the chance to play before a big audience to send out our message…Break The Illusion
      http://blog. metal-hammer. de/15-minutes-fame-wer-rockt-offenbach-vor-slayer/

    27. H&K G91 LOCKED AND LOADED Says:

      Oh… Please please please vote for my band… THE HAND OF GLORY … it only takes 5 seconds, and we win the chance to play before a big audience to send out our message…Break The Illusion
      http://blog. metal-hammer. de/15-minutes-fame-wer-rockt-offenbach-vor-slayer/

    28. i just watched zeitgeist part 2 :) Says:

      YOU MUST WATCH THE NEW MOVIE ZEITGEIST PART 2 ITS AMAZING. AND IF YOU HAVE NOT WATCHED PART ONE WERE HAVE YOU BEEN IN THE PAST YEAR? ITS THE MOST VIEWED MOVIE OF ALL TIME!!!! GO WATCH NOW – http://WWW.ZEITGEISTMOVIE.COM

    29. none Says:

      alex jones is a NWO butt kisser- go to youtube.. bill cooper and alex jones

    30. yoyoyo Says:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPS7ksrKk8Y

    31. Texan 1 Says:

      It is up to 11.35 Trillion dollars now.

    32. John Says:

      ZEITGEIST IS TOTAL CRAP, THE PEOPLE THAT MADE IT SHOULD BE EMBARASSED OF THEMSELVES. IT CAN BE DEBUNKED IN 5 SECONDS.

    33. Joey Says:

      JOHN is an idiot and is probably some fox news employee. LOL employee after seeing ZeitGeist addendum I laugh at that now.

    34. chris s Says:

      This John guy is an idiot , he could not debunk 1 thing from that movie in 10 mins let alone the whole movie in 5 seconds. Get a brain John open your eyes asshole!!

    35. chris s Says:

      Joey not John

    36. Really Says:

      Diversionists Operatives you are ineffective; Why would any sane person attack plausable ideas repeatedly without an operational agenda, or refute a topic w/o using critical argumenititive points? These “religious” and “profanity” diversionists are on the same federal payroll and laughingly transparent. Above all else, Counter-Op attacks reflect the effectiveness of Truth-sites like infowars.com! Post on, uselful shekels!

    37. nyvoice Says:

      Lol ,John must be in denial about Christianity’s true origins…I know it’s hard to let go of Jesus..The movie which attempts to debunk Zeitgeist was made by some kind of missionary institute…Of course they’ll say that whoever came up with the information for Zeitgeist are devil worshippers.They need their slaves to keep coming to church and giving them money.

    38. G Says:

      Join in on my new blog:

      http://www.propagandawerks.blogspot.com

    39. WEREFEAT Says:

      Well, you can watch Zeitgeist 2 if you want to. The lies start about minute 55 when they tell you that environment is dominant and genetics is second in line. From then on, if you know things, you will see the “Serpent” in action. Sometimes true, sometimes a huge lie to get you to the wrong side of things.
      Don’t get me wrong, these are lies, not mistakes. Genetics has been known since time immemorial.
      If you would like to know more about Communism, check out this guy’s site: http://home.mira.net/~andy/index.htm. That should solve a lot of your troubles. Or, if you really don’t like “racism” or “feminism”, or “classism”, or “sexism” or “elitism”, or “fascism”, or “nationalism”, just go to http://www.cpusa.org/ and join up. They endorsed Obama, so you know they aren’t “racist”. How could you explain that to your mom?
      Sheesh…

    40. NoBozos Says:

      I am sure NWO daddy Bush and Lucifer will be proud of their idiot son. For the rest of us, he has been a nightmare. If not just the trashing of the economy, but he and his minions in congress have shredded the constitution, made America hated in the eyes of the world, brought the church down to his sick little evil level, and endangered the future of every one of us. May all the pulpit pimps, wonks and apologists who gave him cover for his reign of terror get their view lots on the Lake of Fire, next door to your favorite boy George and his daddy, a poor Dana Carvey inpersonator.

    41. Andrew Says:

      Not all of Zeitgeist is crap–it has done a good job of waking people up. However, the part that claims Christianity comes from astro-theology and that Jesus never actually existed is totally bogus. Check out nowheretorun1984’s stuff on youtube. The sun worshippers tried to co-opt Christianity a couple of hundred years after Christ. Right now, the important thing is to join forces against the New World Order. But, it is important for people to know that they don’t have to give up their Christianity in order to “wake up” to the way things really are.

    42. Lookout Says:

      My country,’ tis of thee,
      sweet land of liberty, of thee I sing;
      land where my fathers died,
      land of the pilgrims’ pride,
      from every mountainside let freedom ring!

      2. My native country, thee,
      land of the noble free, thy name I love;
      I love thy rocks and rills,
      thy woods and templed hills;
      my heart with rapture thrills, like that above.

      3. Let music swell the breeze,
      and ring from all the trees sweet freedom’s song;
      let mortal tongues awake;
      let all that breathe partake;
      let rocks their silence break, the sound prolong.

      4. Our fathers’ God, to thee,
      author of liberty, to thee we sing;
      long may our land be bright
      with freedom’s holy light;
      protect us by thy might, great God, our King.

    43. Aussie Says:

      Headline reads: ~ George W. Bush’s Legacy: A $ 10 Trillion National Debt

      Should read: ~ Through inaction…the American people’s legacy…amounts to a $10 Trillion National Debt “and rising”

      “Through Inaction”…get it…”INACTION”

      Blame everyone except yourselves…it’s the “modern” American way!!!

    44. NWO feeds on fear Says:

      Christians….if the NWO feared Christians, there wouldn’t be a church on every city block. What they don’t want you to know…..you won’t. The truth won’t be on every city block. Also, do you really think it is fair to preach that only those who follow Jesus will be saved? Are you kidding? This institution is set in place to break you down with fear and to make you sit on your ass and wait for Jesus when the time is most critical to get off your ass. If you are a Christian, you are separating yourself from what you really are. If you are Christian and either Democratic or Republican…….I really feel sorry for you. Break away from the institutions that keep the world at war.

      When America killed the indians, the kidnapped the children and forced Christianity on them. They also made them learn English and made them adapt to all the institutions that we are trapped into today. Those poor Native Americans. How Christian does that sound to you?

      More blood has been shed because of religion than any other institution in the world. All religion is the same at its core.

      Also, research King James. See the blood that guy has on his hands. Would you let Charles Manson write your New Testament?

      Guess what day it was that Martin Luther nailed those documents on that door…….Halloween.
      I dare you to research that one. Be carefull, it is a deep rabbit hole.

      If you want to worship Jesus, take your pic…..there is like thirty dudes with the same story that you can choose from.

      “But what about Revelations?” you may ask. If they control the past and our history books, they will control the future. They make the prophecy and then they fulfill it. It is all a part of the institution. Respect your enemy. Not only are they smart, but they may not even be human. They created all the languages. Language is an institution. The old testament has some truth to it in the creation story and the Tower of Babel. They split up the language and made different races specifically so we would never come together and find out what we really are.

      The Bible is distorted truth. The Sumerian Texts were the first version of the Old Testament. What is wonderful about it is that it is more specific. Wouldn’t it make sense to start where it all began…..Sumer…..Mesopotamia. They don’t teach that in Sunday school, do they?

    45. jerry Says:

      His masters (NWO) will welcome him with open arms and declare “well done good and faithful servant”. This whole family called “The Bushes” leave a chemtrail of cancer in whatever they set their hands to.

    46. Paul T Says:

      Hang the bastard up by the testicles and shoot him in the head, publicly. Useless scum.

    47. edjoy74 Says:

      I will never forget the time my dad who was Anglican (you Americans call it Episcopalian) (I am Canadian) and mom and I made the mistake of begging dad to go to church with us. I never was into the Catholic faith even from childhood and was baptised Catholic, First communion, Confirmation and married there. Well dad would just go through the rituals and only four times did he ever go with us. I remember when there was the collection of money and dad would call the head priest “dollar bill” and how right he was. Dad would make the dollar sign when the priest and others would make the sign of the cross. I remember my dad never wanted holy pictures in the house. Mom would put them up and there would be a big fight over all that and he smashed quite a few of them.

      Yes the Vatican, the Jesuits, the royal family of England, all the secret societies along with the Illuminati, and the Zionist Banksters are all cashing in and look at the situation today of all the homelessness. This is just the beginning. I remember when 911 happened and everyone was backing Bushwhack like as if he was a hero. Does Bushwhack appear like a hero to you all today. When Bushwhack first came into office I yelled my head off – I knew that something was very wrong indeed. Both parties are corrupt and the same holds true here in Canada and worldwide. All this homelessness can happen to anyone. This is hardly even the beginning of what is yet to come. We haven’t seen anything yet. Do you think that the Catholic church will bail out the people – no way. This is a punishment as well for people’s greed and stupidity as well. God brought on the evil Bushwhack family and the other evils to punish us from turning away from Him. I don’t care for the Catholic church but I am still a Christian. This is a punishment and a terrible one indeed.

    48. OldSchool Says:

      Enough with all the godspeak. It’s up to US to repair the damages. Gods going to let evil people destroy his antfarm with no resistance at all?…. sad…..
      Sir Rothschild is the financier/banker of the entire catholic church (including the pope) and he is a known elitist and neocon.
      In Revelations, the 4th seal broken means 25% of the global population will die, right? It fits right in with the Illuminati Playbook (depopulation). Will you just wait for it, or will you fight back?
      Yes our foes are pure evil, but our focus now is revolution, not religion. Texts are of little help in times of violence, oppression, and destruction. If you are a man of god, will you allow yourselves to be slaughtered like sheep, or will you go down in a blaze of honor and glory. Either way, our nemesis awaits us. What will your fate be? If you believe in God, know that he shall comfort you and welcome you. If you are not, then you know your destiny. Even through our spiritual differences, we shall and will combat these demons and send them back to hell. But, we will still do this fighting side by side, as one massive army, all bretheren united to fight a single cause. In this stage of the game, the religious implications from EITHER side of Zeitgeist dim in comparison to critical matters of every person on this planet.
      You see folks, this a matter that deals with the endangerment of an entire species, not 1 or 2 religions. Yes religion will be discussed in greater detail AFTER we get down to the business at hand. We got work to do brothers!
      Do yourself a favor and go watch Independance Day. Just think of the aliens as the Neocons and elitists, as one day, you will find yourself fighting for YOUR independance and freedom, and liberty.

    49. Kenneth Says:

      Noami Wolf speaks out! Declares state of emergency, Bush coup in America has begun. Asks for help from all Americans.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XgkeTanCGI

    50. HillbillyJihad&TheBubbaLiberationFront Says:

      Aaawwwhhh….shucks Paa!!! Now we can’t “Thermally Expand” like Mayberry should!!! That fuckin’ Barney Fife and his “BULLET” is such a danger Paahh I don’t know what to think!!!! Fuck It…It’s On!!!! “All ‘HAIL’ Thermal Expansion!!!”

    51. Katz Says:

      The three persons ‘proud to be an American,’ ‘reasonable judgement,’ and ‘destructive self centeredness’ were hitch hiking together on the congressional reform superhighway. How did corporate fascist federal government stop in his 57 Chevy to pick up one and leave the other two stranded? When destructive self centeredness got in first he said, “my two buddies are insisting on voting for a third party candidate and the voting process must be free, fair and have NO computerized machines and a true ability for a good recount. Also, I’ll bribe you to drop me of at Wall Street and my buddies are going to Main Street.”

    52. Roman Says:

      This sounds like its all republican bashing. The democrats are just as guilty since they controlled the house during much of this disaster.

    53. ACL Says:

      Obama or McCain will not change anything. PERIOD

    54. The Seditionist Says:

      LEADERLESS RESISTANCE

      The concept of Leaderless Resistance was proposed by Col. Ulius Louis Amoss, who was the founder of International Service of Information Incorporated, located in Baltimore, Maryland. Col. Amoss died more than fifteen years ago, but during his life was a tireless opponent of communism, as well as a skilled Intelligence Officer. Col. Amoss first wrote of Leaderless Resistance on April 17, 1962. His theories of organization were primarily directed against the threat of eventual Communist take-over in the United States. The present writer, with the benefit of having lived many years beyond Col. Amoss, has taken his theories and expounded upon them. Col. Amoss feared the Communists. This author fears the federal government. Communism now represents a threat to no one in the United States, while federal tyranny represents a threat to everyone . The writer has joyfully lived long enough to see the dying breaths of communism, but may, unhappily, remain long enough to see the last grasps of freedom in America.

      In the hope that, somehow, America can still produce the brave sons and daughters necessary to fight off ever increasing persecution and oppression, this essay is offered. Frankly, it is too close to call at this point. Those who love liberty, and believe in freedom enough to fight for it are rare today, but within the bosom of every once great nation, there remains secreted, the pearls of former greatness. They are there. I have looked into their sparking eyes; sharing a brief moment in time with them as I passed through this life. Relished their friendship, endured their pain, and they mine. We are a band of brothers, native to the soil gaining strength one from another as we have rushed head long into a battle that all the weaker, timid men, say we can not win. Perhaps…but then again, perhaps we can. It’s not over till the last freedom fighter is buried or imprisoned, or the same happens to those who would destroy their freedom.

      Barring any cataclysmic events, the struggle will yet go on for years. The passage of time will make it clear to even the more slow among us that the government is the foremost threat to the life, and liberty of the folk. The government will no doubt make today’s oppressiveness look like grade school work compared to what they have planned in the future. Meanwhile, there are those of us who continue to hope that somehow the few can do what the many have not. We are cognizant that before things get better they will certainly get worse as government shows a willingness to use ever more severe police state measures against dissidents. This changing situation makes it clear that those who oppose state repression must be prepared to alter, adapt, and modify their behavior, strategy, and tactics as circumstances warrant. Failure to consider new methods and implement them as necessary will make the government’s efforts at suppression uncomplicated. It is the duty of every patriot to make the tyrant’s life miserable. When one fails to do so he not only fails himself, but his people.

      With this in mind, current methods of resistance to tyranny employed by those who love our race, culture, and heritage must pass a litmus test of soundness. Methods must be objectively measured as to their effectiveness, as well as to whether they make the government’s intention of repression more possible or more difficult. Those not working to aid our objectives must be discarded or the government benefits from our failure to do so.

      As honest men who have banded together into groups or associations of a political or religious nature are falsely labeled “domestic terrorists” or “cultists” and suppressed, it will become necessary to consider other methods of organization–or as the case may very well call for: non-organization. One should keep in mind that it is not in the government’s interest to eliminate all groups. Some few must remain in order to perpetuate the smoke and mirrors vision for the masses that America is a “free democratic country” where dissent is allowed. Most organizations, however, that possess the potential for effective resistance will not be allowed to continue. Anyone who is so naive as to believe the most powerful government on earth will not crush any who pose a real threat to that power, should not be active, but rather, at home studying political history.

      The question as to who is to be left alone and who is not, will be answered by how groups and individuals deal with several factors such as: avoidance of conspiracy plots, rejection of feeble minded malcontents, insistence upon quality of the participants, avoidance of all contact with the front men for the federals–the news media–and, finally, camouflage (which can be defined as the ability to blend in the public’s eye the more committed groups of resistance with mainstream “kosher” associations that are generally seen as harmless.) Primarily though, whether any organization is allowed to continue in the future will be a matter of how big a threat a group represents. Not a threat in terms of armed might or political ability, for there is none of either for the present, but rather, threat in terms of potentiality. It is potential the federals fear most. Whether that potential exists in an individual or group is incidental. The federals measure potential threat in terms of what might happen given a situation conducive to action on the part of a restive organization or individual. Accurate intelligence gathering allows them to assess the potential. Showing one’s hand before the bets are made, is a sure way to loose.

      The movement for freedom is rapidly approaching the point where for many people, the option of belonging to a group will be nonexistent. For others, group membership will be a viable option for only the immediate future. Eventually, and perhaps much sooner than most believe possible, the price paid for membership will exceed any perceived benefit. But for now, some of the groups that do exist often serve a useful purpose either for the newcomer who can be indoctrinated into the ideology of the struggle, or for generating positive propaganda to reach potential freedom fighters. It is sure that, for the most part, this struggle is rapidly becoming a matter of individual action, each of its participants making a private decision in the quietness of his heart to resist: to resist by any means necessary. It is hard to know what others will do, for no man truly knows another man’s heart. It is enough to know what one himself will do. A great teacher once said “know thyself.” Few men really do, but let each of us, promise ourselves, not to go quietly to the fate our would-be masters have planned.

      The concept of Leaderless Resistance is nothing less than a fundamental departure in theories of organization. The orthodox scheme of organization is diagrammatically represented by the pyramid, with the mass at the bottom and the leader at the top. This fundamental of organization is to be seen not only in armies, which are of course, the best illustration of the pyramid structure, with the mass of soldiery, the privates, at the bottom responsible to corporals who are in turn responsible to sergeants, and so on up the entire chain of command to the generals at the top. But the same structure is seen in corporations, ladies’ garden clubs and in our political system itself. This orthodox “pyramid” scheme of organization is to be seen basically in all existing political, social and religious structures in the world today from the Federal government to the Roman Catholic Church. The Constitution of the United States, in the wisdom of the Founders, tried to sublimate the essential dictatorial nature of pyramidal organization by dividing authority into three: executive, legislative and judicial. But the pyramid remains essentially untouched.

      This scheme of organization, the pyramid, is however, not only useless, but extremely dangerous for the participants when it is utilized in a resistance movement against state tyranny. Especially is this so in technologically advanced societies where electronic surveillance can often penetrate the structure revealing its chain of command. Experience has revealed over and over again that anti-state, political organizations utilizing this method of command and control are easy prey for government infiltration, entrapment, and destruction of the personnel involved. This has been seen repeatedly in the United States where pro-government infiltrators or agent provocateurs weasel their way into patriotic groups and destroy them from within.

      In the pyramid type of organization, an infiltrator can destroy anything which is beneath his level of infiltration and often those above him as well. If the traitor has infiltrated at the top, then the entire organization from the top down is compromised and may be traduced at will.

      An alternative to the pyramid type of organization is the cell system. In the past, many political groups (both right and left) have used the cell system to further their objectives. Two examples will suffice. During the American Revolution “committees of correspondence” were formed throughout the Thirteen colonies.

      Their purpose was to subvert the government and thereby aid the cause of independence. The “Sons of Liberty”, who made a name for themselves dumping government taxed tea into the harbor at Boston, were the action arm of the committees of correspondence. Each committee was a secret cell that operated totally independently of the other cells. Information on the government was passed from committee to committee, from colony to colony, and then acted upon on a local basis. Yet even in these bygone days of poor communication, of weeks to months for a letter to be delivered, the committees without any central direction whatsoever, were remarkable similar in tactics employed to resist government tyranny. It was, as the first American patriots knew, totally unnecessary for anyone to give an order for anything. Information was made available to each committee, and each committee acted as it saw fit. A recent example of the cell system taken from the left wing of politics are the Communists. The Communist, in order to get around the obvious problems involved in pyramidal organization, developed to an art the cell system. They had numerous independent cells which operated completely isolated from one another and particularly with no knowledge of each other, but were orchestrated together by a central headquarters. For instance, during World War II, in Washington, it is known that there were at least six secret Communist cells operating at high levels in the United States government (plus all the open Communists who were protected and promoted by President Roosevelt), however, only one of the cells was rooted out and destroyed. How many more actually were operating no one can say for sure.

      The Communist cells which operated in the U.S until late 1991 under Soviet control could have at their command a leader, who held a social position which appeared to be very lowly. He could be, for example, a busboy in a restaurant, but in reality a colonel or a general in the Soviet Secret Service, the KGB. Under him could be a number of cells and a person active in one cell would almost never have knowledge of individuals who are active in another cell. The value of this is that while any one cell can be infiltrated, exposed or destroyed, such action will have no effect on the other cells; in fact, the members of the other cells will be supporting that cell which is under attack and ordinarily would lend very strong support to it in many ways. This is at least part of the reason, no doubt, that whenever in the past Communists were attacked in this country, support for them sprang up in many unexpected places.

      The efficient and effective operation of a cell system after the Communist model, is of course, dependent upon central direction, which means impressive organization, funding from the top, and outside support, all of which the Communists had. Obviously, American patriots have none of these things at the top or anywhere else, and so an effective cell organization based upon the Soviet system of operation is impossible.

      Two things become clear from the above discussion. First, that the pyramid type of organization can be penetrated quite easily and it thus is not a sound method of organization in situations where the government has the resources and desire to penetrate the structure; which is the situation in this country. Secondly, that the normal qualifications for the cell structure based upon the Red model does not exist in the U.S. for patriots. This understood, the question arises “What method is left for those resisting state tyranny?” The answer comes from Col. Amoss who proposed the “Phantom Cell” mode of organization. Which he described as Leaderless Resistance. A system of organization that is based upon the cell organization, but does not have any central control or direction, that is in fact almost identical to the methods used by the Committees of Correspondence during the American Revolution. Utilizing the Leaderless Resistance concept, all individuals and groups operate independently of each other, and never report to a central headquarters or single leader for direction or instruction, as would those who belong to a typical pyramid organization.

      At first glance, such a type of organization seems unrealistic, primarily because there appears to be no organization. The natural question thus arises as to how are the “Phantom cells” and individuals to cooperate with each other when there is no intercommunication or central direction? The answer to this question is that participants in a program of Leaderless Resistance through phantom cell or individual action must know exactly what they are doing, and how to do it. It becomes the responsibility of the individual to acquire the necessary skills and information as to what is to be done. This is by no means as impractical as it appears, because it is certainly true that in any movement, all persons involved have the same general outlook, are acquainted with the same philosophy, and generally react to given situations in similar ways. The pervious history of the committees of correspondence during the American Revolution show this to be true.

      Since the entire purpose of Leaderless Resistance is to defeat state tyranny (at least insofar as this essay is concerned), all members of phantom cells or individuals will tend to react to objective events in the same way through usual tactics of resistance. Organs of information distribution such as newspapers, leaflets, computers, etc., which are widely available to all, keep each person informed of events, allowing for a planned response that will take many variations. No one need issue an order to anyone. Those idealist truly committed to the cause of freedom will act when they feel the time is ripe, or will take their cue from others who precede them. While it is true that much could be said against this type of structure as a method of resistance, it must be kept in mind that Leaderless Resistance is a child of necessity. The alternatives to it have been show to be unworkable or impractical. Leaderless Resistance has worked before in the American Revolution, and if the truly committed put it to use for themselves, it will work now.

      It goes almost without saying that Leaderless Resistance leads to very small or even one man cells of resistance. Those who join organizations to play “let’s pretend” or who are “groupies” will quickly be weeded out. While for those who are serious about their opposition to federal despotism, this is exactly what is desired.

      From the point of view of tyrants and would be potentates in the federal bureaucracy and police agencies, nothing is more desirable than that those who oppose them be UNIFIED in their command structure, and that every person who opposes them belong to a pyramid type group. Such groups and organizations are an easy kill. Especially in light of the fact that the Justice (sic) Department promised in 1987 that there would never be another group that opposed them that they did not have at least one informer in. These federal “friends of government” are intelligence agents. They gather information that can be used at the whim of a federal D.A. to prosecute. The line of battle has been drawn. Patriots are required therefore, to make a conscious decision to either aid the government in its illegal spying, by continuing with old methods of organization and resistance, or to make the enemie’s job more difficult by implementing effective countermeasures.

      Now there will, no doubt, be mentally handicapped people out there who, while standing at a podium with an American flag draped in the background, and a lone eagle soaring in the sky above, will state emphatically in their best sounding red, white, and blue voice, “So what if the government is spying? We are not violating any laws.” Such crippled thinking by any serious person is the best example that there is a need for special education classes. The person making such a statement is totally out of contact with political reality in this country, and unfit for leadership of any thing more than a dog sleigh in the Alaskan wilderness. The old “Born on the fourth of July” mentality that has influenced so much of the American patriot’s thinking in the past will not save him from the government in the future. “Reeducation” for non-thinkers of this type will take place in the federal prison system where there are no flags or eagles, but abundance of men who were “not violating any law.”

      Most groups who “unify” their disparate associates into a single structure have short political lives. Therefore, those movement leaders constantly calling for unity of organization rather than the desirable unity of purpose, usually fall into one of three categories.

      They may not be sound political tacticians, but rather, just committed men who feel unity would help their cause, while not realizing that the government would greatly benefit from such efforts. The Federal objective, to imprison or destroy all who oppose them, is made easier in pyramid organizations. Or perhaps, they do not fully understand the struggle they are involved in and that the government they oppose has declared a state of war against those fighting for faith, folk, freedom and constitutional liberty. Those in power will use any means to rid themselves of opposition. The third class calling for unity and let us hope this is the minority of the three, are men more desirous of the supposed power that a large organization would bestow, than of actually achieving their stated purpose.

      Conversely, the last thing Federal snoops would have, if they had any choice in the matter, is a thousand different small phantom cells opposing them. It is easy to see why. Such a situation is an intelligence nightmare for a government intent upon knowing everything they possibly can about those who oppose them. The Federals, able to amass overwhelming strength of numbers, manpower, resources, intelligence gathering, and capability at any given time, need only a focal point to direct their anger. A single penetration of a pyramid type of organization can lead to the destruction of the whole. Whereas, Leaderless Resistance presents no single opportunity for the Federals to destroy a significant portion of the Resistance.

      With the announcement by the Department of Justice (sic) that 300 FBI agents formerly assigned to watching Soviet spies in the US (domestic counter intelligence) are now to be used to “combat crime”, the federal government is preparing the way for a major assault upon those persons opposed to their policies. Many anti-government groups dedicated to the preservation of the America of our forefathers can expect shortly to feel the brunt of a new federal assault upon liberty.

      It is clear, therefore, that it is time to rethink traditional strategy and tactics when it comes to opposing a modern police state. America is quickly moving into a long dark night of police state tyranny, where the rights now accepted by most as being inalienable will disappear. Let the coming night be filled with a thousand points of resistance. Like the fog which forms when conditions are right and disappears when they are not, so must the resistance to tyranny be.

      “If every person has the right to defend–even by force–his person, his liberty, and his property, then it follows that a group of men have the right to organize and support a common force to protect these rights constantly.” —The Law. Frederick Bastiat Paris, 1850.

    55. Afi K. James Says:

      Obama or McCain will not change anything. PERIOD

      You heard that right.

    56. Lord_Tek Says:

      I really hope anyone who is an objectivist would object and condemn Greenspan for his actions and so called “theories and Ideas.”

    57. PCtrust Says:

      ‘Rainman’ W.B. can’t handle the math, besides what’s a few trillion
      between firends?

    58. PCtrust Says:

      ‘Rainman’ can’t handle the math, besides what’s a few trillion
      between friends?

    59. jos boersema Says:

      58 The Seditionist Says:

      October 6th, 2008 at 6:33 am
      > LEADERLESS RESISTANCE

      100% correct, thanks !

      Phantom cell resistance: the way to go. No central coordination, but cells operating on their own best judgement.

      Basic rules of operations: don`t say to anyone whom you know or what other groups there are, unless those other people you might know told you specifically you could disclose some of their identity, and what specifically. Once someone starts blathering their mouth about people he/she knows, disclosing info of identity that is not the minimum necessary for real goals, then you know you are dealing with a dangerous amateur or spy. Group size should also be kept low. 10 people is quite a few already ?

      There is a devastating risk with a centrally directed resistance. Curiously: the resistance in Europe WW2 Holland was controlles at least in part by the allies, who later usurped power again, letting many of the dogs in power. This way the enemy plays both sides, so that they would actually fight for the resistance movement into a winning situation if the people support that, since they would then take over the system from that angle again should the resistance win. They don`t really care for either opression or limited capitalist freedom: they just try to be the greedy leaders in either. They will try to play well meaning leaders / figures as well, use them as straw men to let the resistance they know / control grow bigger, removing them or corrupting them later.

      But what kind of goal must the resistance have ? What is the common purpose to fight for ?

      I think it should still be: the hearts & minds of the people for a justice & a system that works, because without ideological control over the hearts & minds of the security apparatus and a section of the people large enough (passive support), they still can`t maintain control. So a major goal will have to be I think to work for basic rules of justice. Once parts of the security apparatus and a majority of the people actively seek general improvement in terms of justice and who is in power and why and so on, resistance activities will get easier and easier, and eventually the fall of the regime becomes possible.

      I would of course suggest this ultimate goal: http://www.jhwh.be It is a law system. It is important to realize that violent activities are what the state will use as pretext for “laws” that allow indiscriminate incarcerations, torture, and so on, particularly to bolster support within the security apparatus. Basic “better income for the poorest” and “fair trial” are very good things to campaign for as a start, reduction of greed of the most wealthy, and military peace with other nations.

      I feel that this fight, if it comes to a fight, could end up being the worst most difficult resistance fight ever, because the technology has never been as dramatically developed and different from before. The state has tremendous resources in theory, in weapons and intelligence gathering. Technology allows for great power by few over many, compare that with the middle ages, or even WW2.

      Shouldn`t let it come to a dictatorship, maybe it can still be avoided. That requires major breakthrough ideologically about economics & finance.

      (By the way my own party-system is also leaderless resistance (see my site). Of course the petition on my site is the opposite of secrecy, something to keep in mind if you expect state violence I guess, potentially directed at everyone in the “progressive” category.)

    60. Earl Mojo Says:

      search the internet for

      HACKING RFID

    61. Nathan Says:

      This is what Americans wanted and they got it. Remember all the Jesus talk in 2004 to get Bush reselected? Remember all the God and country rhetoric used by the republicans? And who could forget the fear mongering that made many Americans support torture and beat their flabby chests shouting “this is the greatest country on earth”. It looks like Joe six pack came up a few beers short in the common sense department while the bible thumpers in office raided the treasury and destroyed America. Hey Joe six pack and family, we told you so!

    62. PRODIGAL TRON Says:

      please read Revelation chapter 15
      that is my license plate # The Truth will set you free…………:0)

    63. John Crippen Says:

      The Legacy of George W Bush, A Collection of Conflicting Opinions. I think folks on here will really appreciate this book. Available at Amazon.com


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