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Georgia freemasons at loggerheads over admission of black man to lodge
Chris McGreal
London Guardian
Saturday, July 4, 2009
There is much about Freemasonry that remains shrouded in mystery to the outside world. But a group of members in the US state of Georgia appear to have clarified one thing – the supreme being in which all Masons are required to believe is not likely to be black.
Freemasonry lodges in Georgia are at loggerheads over the admission of a “non-white” member to an organisation that was founded on the principles of the Enlightenment but which is apparently still struggling to catch up with the latter part of the 20th century.
Now the issue is headed for a Masonic trial and the state courts after some lodges in Georgia sought to revoke the charter of one in Atlanta for admitting Victor Marshall, a 26-year-old African-American army reservist, last autumn.
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The Atlanta lodge has fought back in the state courts by seeking to block the move on the grounds that is based on “racial animosity and hatred”.
The row blew up after Marshall attended a celebration in Savannah in February to mark the 275th anniversary of a lodge in the city. Although there are other Masons of colour in Georgia, including Asians and Hispanics, some members were disturbed to encounter a black man and laid a complaint that he did not belong.
“There were ill-informed brethren who were surprised that there was an African-American brother,” David Llewellyn, a Freemason and lawyer for the Atlanta lodge, told the New York Times, “and some of them were very upset”.
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July 4th, 2009 at 5:53 am
The Freemasons racist?! Naaaaa! Can’t be lol.
Just shows you how these fuckers view the rest of the world, there is white, then, oh yea, thats it, everyone else is sub-species.
MAD DOG Reply:
July 5th, 2009 at 12:17 pm
EVERYONE KNOWS THIS, WHATS YOUR POINT ?
PiP Reply:
July 6th, 2009 at 2:10 am
So what the fuck is wrong with that:
July 4th, 2009 at 6:15 am
This is a staged event. They will allow a black man in and publicize it. The reality is they wont publisize when they boot him out in a few months. The question is does this idiot really know what he is getting into? http://www.thegrandawakening.com/index.html
July 4th, 2009 at 8:38 am
This is for publicity they so can delay it and eventually open the doors. This will be used as we can’t let you in, yet and everyone is happy.
Imrie Schroer Reply:
July 6th, 2009 at 7:11 am
More like it, lol.
July 4th, 2009 at 8:47 am
There are many black mason lodges here in the south “Prince Hall Lodge” downtown in black neighborhoods , mostly black members. I* don’t see the fuss, they will let in dupes of any race..
Papillon Reply:
July 5th, 2009 at 7:59 pm
Prince Hall lodges are the “separate but equal” cover… but they aren’t equal and never have been.
People need to just wake up and smell the brimstone burning in those houses of occultic practice. Most don’t know the true nature of the lodge. Their own books tell them that they have to figure it out on their own and they will only get as much “light” as they are able to receive.
“Morals and Dogma” page 321 is clear: Lucifer bears the light. It’s a cult of Lucifer.
If you’re too dumb to figure out what you’re involved in then they are happy to just continue to mislead and use you whether you are white or black.
July 4th, 2009 at 11:02 am
yeah right, the free masons are white racists…. none of them promoted: abortion of whites, immigration, race mixing, afirmative(?!) action, “multiculturalism”,etc…. keep joking.
July 4th, 2009 at 12:32 pm
http://www.thegrandawakening.com/index.html
Come see the REAL truth and not the partial truths you get here.
July 4th, 2009 at 12:43 pm
The Prince Lodge was a lodge setup by Blacks or Black Masons. The Masonic Lodge inspected and accepted the Prince Lode under Charter and validated them. The inception of the prince Lodge was done by Blacks and not the Grand Lodge. The result is that Blacks were required by the request of the Prince Lodge to attend their own Seperate Lodoges. Prince Lodges can be found in Maine, Vermont, Washington, California, Georgia, or anywhere there is a sizable Black Population. There are instances where Blacks have been in the regular Lodge ie: Thurgood Marshall, etc and in many cass Prince Lodge membership was adequate to transfer in areas without sizable Black Populations. Anyone else was free to join the regular Blue Lodge. A similar thing happened with the Knights of Columbus when the Catholick Church banned it’s members from joining the Masonic Lodge and took the ex lodge member catholicks and formed the KoFC.
Since I was raised to the level of Master Of the Royal Secret and held the earned rank of 32nd Degree I probably know a little more about it that the people writing the article or anyone else on this board except possibly my Fraternal Brother Alex.
As to the specific case, I think it’s way past time for the Local Lodges who do discriminate to be held to a true standard of Masonic Values and divest themselves of some of the social impediments placed upon ther membership by lowly values of racial seperatism. I can personaly vouch that there are a lot of Blue Lodges that are just festering pits of good old boy ass kissers and cock suckers who think joining the Lodge is their ticket to being something other than white trash.
T.R. Eddy Reply:
July 4th, 2009 at 3:52 pm
“I believe in “GOD”. Really? Which one? No Christian can truly be a Mason. They incorporate anyone that professes to believe in “GOD”. Satan claims he is “god” and has as worshipers the ancient sect called “Pharisees”. They preach the same thing Masons do; “The Fatherhood of “GOD” and the “Brotherhood of man”. See what Christ says of these lying hypocrits in the 8th chapter of John. Scripture tells Christians not to “yoke themselves with unbelievers (in Christ)” Yet Masons welcome just about every non-Christian belief in. No true Christian can follow the Bible and belong to these groups that welcome non- Christians into membership.
AbuBakerSmith Reply:
July 5th, 2009 at 8:18 am
Tranny Eddie, I’m sure you learned all this stuff on the internet which would certainly make you an authority.
scott Reply:
July 5th, 2009 at 10:02 am
abubakersmith you dont need the internet wo know what TR is saying is true, just crack open a bible if you can find one.
not a brainwashed idiot Reply:
July 6th, 2009 at 1:03 am
Give me a break, masons worship the Jesuit order! You cannot be a true christian and be a mason of the 33rd degree. the rest of the masons below them are clueless to their eveil doings. They rape children, they answer to the P-2! they have luciferian worship services on the 33rd degree.
MAD DOG Reply:
July 5th, 2009 at 12:19 pm
WHO CARES
FK YOUR LODGES.
Elder Observer Reply:
July 5th, 2009 at 2:26 pm
I am also a 32nd degree Mason, and what this brother said is correct. People need to do their research. The fact that Masonry is has been setup as a scapegoat organization by other agendas should tell you all something. I am also an honorary member of a foreign lodge, and I consider Masonry in some other countries to be more enlightened than in the Southern USA.
July 4th, 2009 at 12:50 pm
I know a lot of Masons and the general feeling is that, yes, blacks should not be allowed to be Masons. BUT, the blacks have their own Mason lodges, they’re called Prince Hall Masons. Even Prince Hall Masons feel that blacks should be of Prince Hall. Why isn’t anyone asking this black man why he would want to join this “racist” organization instead of joining a Prince Hall lodge? I’ll tell you why, the whole purpose is to destroy yet another organ of white unity. Does no one find it ironic that if this becomes mainstream that blacks will now be able to be members of both organizations, while whites will not? Think about it, every single organization that whites have traditionally used has either been “integrated” or is under constant attack to become so. This would not be an issue if there weren’t a endless list of non-white organizations allowed to operate with impunity.
AbuBakerSmith Reply:
July 4th, 2009 at 12:57 pm
The Prince Lodge was accepted and Chartered by the Grand Lodge many years ago. Members of the Prince Lodge have the same rights to demit as any member of A@AFM and AFM. The Lodges not permitting Blacks and vice a versa are not abiding by any order from Grand Council but acting on their own convictions. The Supreme Council decided this matter years ago when they accepted the Prince Lodge as Members of the .Greater Masonic Order.
scott Reply:
July 5th, 2009 at 10:05 am
masonry is gay, any large group of males tends towords queenishness, abubakersmith sits on the council of supreme queens
Light Seeker Reply:
July 4th, 2009 at 9:47 pm
To Sad Says. I think you are the most ignorant person I’ve ever seen outside of the KKK. Prince Hall accepts white, black, blue, etc. If you’ve received that information that they don’t from a “reliable” source. I think you need to rethink where you get your information. The F&AM lodges of roughly 10 southern states are the only ones to discriminate who they allow in. This Brother picked the lodge that he wanted to join, because guess what. You can do that in the real world in Freemasonry. Pick a lodge that you want. Join a racist organization. The organization isn’t racist, its the people in it that are racist. Obviously you despise black people because you were probably too dumb to get into a Prince Hall lodge and a racist lodge allowed you in. Oh, and the Prince Hall lodges formed before the “mainstream lodges” formed in the US ( do a little research before you run your mouth). The “mainstream lodges” didn’t allow blacks in so they were forced to form another stream of Freemasonry. So to sit here and argue that everything was okay in the beginning and this is a new issue is a mute point. Discrimination isn’t allowed in Freemasonry everywhere. I really hope you are not a Mason. I would be insulted that a person of ill mind like you would be allowed into the Craft.
AbuBakerSmith Reply:
July 5th, 2009 at 8:14 am
Light Seeker, do you see a lot of people inside of the kkk?
The Prince Hall Masonic Lodge descends from a lodge of Black Freemasons in Boston begun by a Black man by the name of Prince Hall.
Prince Hall Free Masonry began during the War of Independence, when Prince Hall and fourteen other free black men were initiated into Lodge # 441 Irish Constitution attached to the 38th Regiment of Foot of the British Army garrisoned at Castle Williams now called Fort Independence, at Boston Harbor on March 6, 1775. Later, they applied for and received a Charter from the Grand Lodge of England.
After Prince Hall passed away, the lodge ceased to function. Many years later, Black Masons established their own Prince Hall Masonic Grand Lodge. They subsequently issued charters to Black men for subordinate lodges.
scott Reply:
July 5th, 2009 at 10:05 am
still gay, prince hall, abubakersmith
MAD DOG Reply:
July 5th, 2009 at 12:19 pm
THEY ALREADY HAVE BLACK LODGES, THEY’RE CALLED CRACK HOUSES.
July 4th, 2009 at 1:21 pm
GET OVER IT LODGE BROTHERS
SATAN LETS EVERYONE WORSHIP HIM THE SAME………..
BLACK WHITE ,ASIAN ,MEXICAN
CAN’T WE ALL JUST BET ALONG
atonix Reply:
July 4th, 2009 at 2:48 pm
Yes, but seems that he prefers white, succesful, inbreed people.
July 4th, 2009 at 2:26 pm
These people that have so called wisdom, beyond normal people. Need to lear the Civil war is over. They are brilliant in some things and complete and utter morons in others. Truly sad, who would want to be part of that wimp organization anyway?! Oh Wow, you know how to build the Sears Tower. But you are to stupid to see beyond the color of a person.. What a bunch of losers.
masonsingenesis Reply:
July 5th, 2009 at 7:20 am
um slaves built it designed it and put it together they just robbed your retirement to pay for it. they are not stupid and they are not people. when you get past that you will be on your way.
MAD DOG Reply:
July 5th, 2009 at 12:22 pm
DIVERSITY IS A PLANK OF THE COMMUNIST MANIFESTO
YOU LIBERIAL PUKE MAKE ME SICK.
BLACKS ARE A BUNCH OF SAVAGES WHO HAVE HAD EVERYTHING HANDED TO THEM FOR ALMOST 200 YRS.
AND TO WHAT RESULT, THE INNER CITIES ARE WAR ZONES.
BLACKS ARE UNCIVILIZED SAVAGES… TRIBAL WARRIORS AND NOTHING MORE.
July 4th, 2009 at 2:26 pm
*learn was a typo*
July 4th, 2009 at 5:05 pm
You call this a fucking story on the freemasons?
Article begins…
“There is much about Freemasonry that remains shrouded in mystery to the outside world.”
And there is even more mystery thanks to Alex. As he completely avoids delving into the orders….”because he doesn’t want to factionalize the NWO”. This is the typical reason he gives and throws up at anyone that actually tries to delve into the Knights of Malta connections to the Jewish and Vatican establishments.
Even Leonard Horowitz was recently on the show, yet nothing mentioned about his membership in the Knights of Malta. Could have at least asked him about and let Len lie and say the Knights are nothing but a good society that benefits mankind.
The Knights of Malta and its historic and present membership is key to understanding the NWO. The connections are some of the most profound and relevant, particularly the related societies of the order. And what about the monarchy elite…like the Pilgrim Society?
Nope…not a word…I can hear the crickets chirping. Oh wait…I hear Alex frothing…”Bilderbergers, Bilderbergers, CFR, CFR…!!!
Did you get your Alex Jones ringtones yet? The NWO cannot fail unless you have one. Crucial.
July 5th, 2009 at 12:34 am
If you examine the subject closely you will find out that all of freemasonry is based upon the Judaic. It all funnels from Jewish mysticism, occult and Kabbalah.
And you will find it was the Jews that actually opened the first masonic lodges in the U.S.
And Jews were the high level funders of the boats and journeys that were used during the black slave trade from Africa to the U.S.
This isn’t Jew bashing. Look it up…the real history is all there.
Did you get your Alex Jones ringtones yet? The NWO cannot fail unless you have one.
Crucial.
eyeWiSheYecouldsmackU Reply:
July 5th, 2009 at 7:24 am
2:9 “I know your works, oppression, and your poverty (but you are rich), and the blasphemy of those who say they are Jews, and they are not, but are a synagogue of Satan.
:19 “I know your works, your love, faith, service, patient endurance, and that your last works are more than the first. 2:20 But I have this against you, that you tolerate your woman, Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess. She teaches and seduces my servants to commit sexual immorality, and to eat things sacrificed to idols. 2:21 I gave her time to repent, but she refuses to repent of her sexual immorality. 2:22 Behold, I will throw her into a bed, and those who commit adultery with her into great oppression, unless they repent of her works.
3:8 “I know your works (behold, I have set before you an open door, which no one can shut), that you have a little power, and kept my word, and didn’t deny my name. 3:9 Behold, I give of the synagogue of Satan, of those who say they are Jews, and they are not, but lie. Behold, I will make them to come and worship before your feet, and to know that I have loved you.
read much?
not a brainwashed idiot Reply:
July 6th, 2009 at 1:11 am
America is in trouble as it is the protector of the fake jews, the zions! america is backed, financed and ran by fake jews…zions! were in big doo-doo
July 5th, 2009 at 4:34 am
There is much about Freemasonry that remains shrouded in mystery to the outside world.
Well no more if you care to look here: http://www.thehiddenrecords.com/
And here: http://www.keyofsolomon.net/
And here: http://oneism.org/
These three websites are a wakeup call; learn what they are hiding, for what they are hiding belongs to us all,
The picture is astonishing and it’s our history. our incredible history this is what religion is also hiding.
July 5th, 2009 at 5:52 am
This is good stuff…thanks for the links Robert.
AbuBakerSmith Reply:
July 5th, 2009 at 8:10 am
read the ahiman rezon, all that stuff is leading people down a rabbit hole
scott Reply:
July 5th, 2009 at 10:08 am
Ahiman Rezon = SUPER GAY
July 5th, 2009 at 6:47 am
It’s about time…..,infowars and prisonplanet must expose them…
freemasonry have to be investigate, if we want to reveil the truth
about those corrupted Monks.
This secret Cult, is like a Cancer to humanity…..
if we don’t do something….80 % of humanity will die…!
eyeWiSheYecouldsmackU Reply:
July 5th, 2009 at 7:27 am
10:32 These are the families of the sons of Noah, after their generations, in their nations. Of these were the nations divided in the earth after the flood.
11:1 The whole earth was of one language and of one speech. 11:2 It happened, as they traveled east, that they found a plain in the land of Shinar, and they lived there. 11:3 They said one to another, “Come, let’s make bricks, and burn them thoroughly.” They had brick for stone, and they used tar for mortar. 11:4 They said, “Come, let’s build ourselves a city, and a tower whose top reaches to the sky, and let’s make ourselves a name, lest we be scattered abroad on the surface of the whole earth.”
11:5 The LORD came down to see the city and the tower, which the children of men built. 11:6 The LORD said, “Behold, they are one people, and they have all one language, and this is what they begin to do. Now nothing will be withheld from them, which they intend to do. 11:7 Come, let’s go down, and there confuse their language, that they may not understand one another’s speech.” 11:8 So the LORD scattered them abroad from there on the surface of all the earth. They stopped building the city. 11:9 Therefore its name was called Babel, because there the LORD confused the language of all the earth. From there, the LORD scattered them abroad on the surface of all the earth.
11:10 This is the history of the generations of Shem. Shem was one hundred years old and became the father of Arpachshad two years after the flood. 11:11 Shem lived five hundred years after he became the father of Arpachshad, and became the father of sons and daughters.
JUST OPEN THE BOOK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
scott Reply:
July 5th, 2009 at 10:09 am
amen
MAD DOG Reply:
July 5th, 2009 at 12:23 pm
FART
PiP Reply:
July 6th, 2009 at 2:17 am
O Grow up you blithering Idiot,
Its just a big boys club.
July 5th, 2009 at 10:27 am
By their fruits shall ye know them. Beware of men who come to you in sheeps clothing, for inwardly they are ravening wolves.
The Masons apron is made from the sheep of a lamb. The New WTC Center is full of Masonic symbolism……..hiding in plain sight. Why would a new tower dedicated to freedom and liberty be awash with Satanic symbols and then have its original name, Freedom Tower changed to ONe World Tower ?
Christ spoke out against the Pharisees and Saducees who were hypocrytical vipers practicing Satanic rituals and money exchanging in the Temple Of God and imposing usuary and economic tricks upon the poor and ignorant of His day. this is why this cabal of vipers and satanists had Him executed. They did not want any opposition to their cozy little club and way of life.
Masons are Satanic………the firts mason was not Nimrod by the way, it was Cain who slew Abel. he entered into a pact with Satan to kill his bro. and then keep it secret. He was then given the title by satan himself as Master Mahan. Modern English translates this word to Mason. Master Mason.
July 5th, 2009 at 10:48 am
A lot of dumb comments from people who think it’s a good idea to go to war with every group and faction on this planet at the same time, needlessly.
Alex knows what he’s doing, true leadership also consists of judgment and picking your fights wisely. Only then do you stay on the path to victory.
MAD DOG Reply:
July 5th, 2009 at 12:23 pm
ALEX IS A REPORTER, NOT A GENERAL OR THE SAVIOR.
GEEEZE.
July 5th, 2009 at 3:47 pm
Actually Alex is an actor, director, author, publisher, owner of his own syndicated radio show and in 2000 was a Republican candidate for Texas state representative.
So he is not just a reporter. And certainly not a general or a savior.
He is a business man, well financed and someone who had wishes to acquire more power politically. Just look at his history with some of the intrigue related to others in his profession, the latest being with the Rense affair on the network. Then you have the Stew Webb and Hartwell incident. Alex wants to be the truth monopoly…no doubt about it. But by being the monopoly also wants to dictate what is to be considered as relevant and as truth. If he doesn’t want it…then he chucks it and belittles the caller or listener who wants to talk about it. It has happened to many times to dispute it and in that context he himself is quite the tyrant.
In a recent show with Bermas, Alex stated that he (Alex) should run for political office to be on the inside…this was in regards to the climate change issue and carbon tax.
But here it is. Something is up with Jones. I have listened to his show almost from the beginning. And I have listened to his detractors that speculate he is an agent, shill…whatever. I can’t put any of those labels on him…but, something isn’t quite right with Jones. I have seen it at times in his mannerisms where something suspect sticks out.
Why? Because…anyone that truly makes this much noise about the elite would have an “accident”. And now a pending deal with satellite radio and possibly a television show. I mean…c’mon now. I have listened to Alex’s show long enough to know when he runs around an issue and noticed contradiction and certain times where the old red flag has gone up. A lot if incidences being staged for effect have also been considered.
My conclusion…Alex is working with some aspect of U.S. intelligence as a gatekeeper or someone to draw in people to his site and keep track of them through the NSA. He is the official “town crier” who stands on the bow of the ship as it is sinking telling you how the hole ended up in the hull. He has claimed he puts more truth out there than anyone and basically puts himself out there as being the headliner of the truth movement. He bullies over anyone that offers up an alternative viewpoint that he does not agree with or think is relevant and quashes any open-minded investigation into certain areas of the NWO. If he were truly effective in any meaningful way he would be regarded as a terrorist and on the no-fly list.
If I am wrong then I am wrong. If I am right, then I am right. He and this issue won’t matter much because powers greater than all of us will be on the move. So I can’t blame Alex for being smart enough to make a couple a bucks off selling his ringtones and e-foods to his fans.
My conclusion…
He, at times, manufactures his own drama to perpetuate his image for self-serving reasons and does this under the war cry of delivering truth to the people. And he does actively censor certain subject in a strange hyper-defensive non-rational manner. If this were absent then I would have no criticisms about him. Other than he has turned himself into a raspy-voiced triple chinned porker frothing at the mouth overly-dramatic Texan. But that description would be a credit to his quality.
July 5th, 2009 at 5:37 pm
SEIZE ALL MASONIC LODGES and turn them into veterans centers and homeless shelters
July 5th, 2009 at 6:37 pm
Things are so mixed up now, it’s up to only the individual to seek the truth of things. You can poke your head out and listen to what others have to say, but that doesnt mean it’s an absolute truth…again it’s up to the individual to decide, which may take a lifetime to achieve. Mason’s teaching’s come from egyptions as well. This Georgia event is just a sector of the Mason Community. It’s like shitty cops giving good cops a bad name. That is the situation here in my opinion.
July 5th, 2009 at 9:06 pm
View an actual photo of Jones at the Bilderberg meeting in Virginia. Shocking. http://www.patriotscave.blogspot.com
July 6th, 2009 at 5:53 am
freemasons have been using black people for such a long time especially in rap/hip-hop music. Jay-Z loves placing masonic symbolism in his songs, music videos, his clothing line and you can’t call the man ignorant. I’m sure this Georgia lodge are nothing more than what Bill Cooper would call porch masons with no idea about the true Masonic agenda for the world. Rap culture has shaped the world now more so than rock music and any other music genre and there is nothing but satanic masonic symbolism throughout this culture…
go watch the Lenon Honor films about the occult and hip-hop which break down such people as P.Diddy, Eminem( he is white but he promotes a black art), the masonic tie-ins with the deaths of Tupac and Biggie..even if your not fan of the music it is such a good video especially his take on the Rihanna song Umbrella…scary stuff.
http://www.youtube.com/LenonHonorFilms
http://www.lenonhonorfilms.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSGX1JwMelY