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	<title>Comments on: Glaring and damning errors already apparent in new BBC WTC 7 hit piece</title>
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		<title>By: Angela Ayre</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angela Ayre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 15:19:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I woke up in 2006 with a few other members of my family who followed.
My god these people think we are all idiots, the food and water treatment is just not working on me.  From 06 on I see everything in a different way.  They feed us shit, they tell us shit so that must make them shits.
As for the BBC, they are just government aided bully boys.  Even if you pay up your license fee they can still come to your house [when it&#039;s dark] and suggest that you don&#039;t really have a license [even though you have it in your hand] and then go on to block the end of your drive sitting in their car while talking on a mobile. Then over a period of months bombard you with threatening letters calling you a criminal - all within the law.
Alex and the like are doing a great job, we just need more like them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I woke up in 2006 with a few other members of my family who followed.<br />
My god these people think we are all idiots, the food and water treatment is just not working on me.  From 06 on I see everything in a different way.  They feed us shit, they tell us shit so that must make them shits.<br />
As for the BBC, they are just government aided bully boys.  Even if you pay up your license fee they can still come to your house [when it's dark] and suggest that you don&#8217;t really have a license [even though you have it in your hand] and then go on to block the end of your drive sitting in their car while talking on a mobile. Then over a period of months bombard you with threatening letters calling you a criminal &#8211; all within the law.<br />
Alex and the like are doing a great job, we just need more like them.</p>
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		<title>By: Shabazz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shabazz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 08:27:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The demolition contractor, Mark Loizeaux says the timing of when the explosions on the columns are set off is critical. He cannot see how thermite or any derivative of thermite could have been used to deliberately demolish Tower 7.&quot;

This is a gross misrepresentation of the hypothesis of Dr. Jones et. al. The well-supported belief is that Thermite was used to cut the core columns, not to implode the rest of the building. Separate explosive charges would have been required to produce the effect we witnessed. This is misdirection plain and simple.

Anyone who&#039;d spent more than 14.7 minutes on YouTube watching anything Stephen Jones said could have figured this one out!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The demolition contractor, Mark Loizeaux says the timing of when the explosions on the columns are set off is critical. He cannot see how thermite or any derivative of thermite could have been used to deliberately demolish Tower 7.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is a gross misrepresentation of the hypothesis of Dr. Jones et. al. The well-supported belief is that Thermite was used to cut the core columns, not to implode the rest of the building. Separate explosive charges would have been required to produce the effect we witnessed. This is misdirection plain and simple.</p>
<p>Anyone who&#8217;d spent more than 14.7 minutes on YouTube watching anything Stephen Jones said could have figured this one out!</p>
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		<title>By: Paulo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paulo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 00:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It´s not to be an expert to see that any building can´t fall down in one piece because of fire. It will fall by pieces during more or less time, as we can see in the past.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It´s not to be an expert to see that any building can´t fall down in one piece because of fire. It will fall by pieces during more or less time, as we can see in the past.</p>
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		<title>By: David Lee Rothschild</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Lee Rothschild</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 03:54:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t watched the whole BBC shit piece, just the Silverstein clip.

Do they even show the building collapse even once?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t watched the whole BBC shit piece, just the Silverstein clip.</p>
<p>Do they even show the building collapse even once?</p>
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		<title>By: Laoe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 02:19:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those in power just cannot accept the fact we will not believe their lies anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those in power just cannot accept the fact we will not believe their lies anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: Karmakaze</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karmakaze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 01:32:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gotta love how far the &quot;Arabs did it!&quot; crowd will go to deny the obvious. In that article they first claim that the absolutely symmetrical and simultaneous collapse is to be expected from a series of small fires scattered throughout the building. In other words, a symmetrical simultaneous collapse does not require special instantaneous detonation of carefully place explosives.

&quot;It turns out that when you have connections that essentially don&#039;t have strength for the loads that they are being subjected to. And you have this massive failure of a column it does not take time. The structure has lost all integrity at that point in time.&quot;

So even though the theorised weakening was localised, the sudden loss of structural integrity in one corner of the building led to a total simultaneous collapse.

Ok, fine I can accept that possibility. But wait! Then Jones is mentioned as having suggested thermite cutting charges were used, and how does the BBC counter that argument?

&quot;The demolition contractor, Mark Loizeaux says the timing of when the explosions on the columns are set off is critical. He cannot see how thermite or any derivative of thermite could have been used to deliberately demolish Tower 7.

&quot;I&#039;ve never seen anyone use a material, which melts steel for demolition purposes. I don&#039;t see how you could possibly get all of the columns to melt through at the same time.&quot; 

So apparently if you use explosives or thermite the timing is CRITICAL; if you don&#039;t get it exactly right you do not get an implosion. Yes, that we have all heard many times before... but wait, weren&#039;t we just told that such perfect timing is NOT needed to gain the results seen?

If the symmetry etc of the collapse is NOT evidence against scattered fires, how can it be evidence against controlled demolition? Either it requires precisely timed and placed detonations, or any kind of scattered fire can do it. You can&#039;t have it both ways.

If it&#039;s the latter, why does it take &quot;months to design and months to prepare the structure for the placement of charges&quot; Why not just set fire to buildings and let &quot;nature&quot; take its course?

Also, according to Loizeaux no one would even try to bring down a building using thermite because it would be impossible to get the simultaneous ignition required to cause an implosion. OK, but who said the people who rigged the building were TRYING to make it implode? Maybe they WANTED it to collapse asymmetrically (thus looking more natural) maybe they intended for only a partial collapse or maybe they intended the building to fall on another building. There are a whole lot of reasons someone may decide to use a method other than that used in controlled demolition. So the fact that thermite is not used commercially for the job in no way proves that thermite could not have been used - this was not a commercial controlled demolition - it was an attack that did not care one bit about possible collateral damage.

In fact it seems to me that the ultimate result was a mistake - something went wrong with both the timing and placement of the charges, and rather than an seemingly natural collapse soon after the first two, they ended up with a long delayed collapse that in the end screamed &quot;DEMOLITION!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gotta love how far the &#8220;Arabs did it!&#8221; crowd will go to deny the obvious. In that article they first claim that the absolutely symmetrical and simultaneous collapse is to be expected from a series of small fires scattered throughout the building. In other words, a symmetrical simultaneous collapse does not require special instantaneous detonation of carefully place explosives.</p>
<p>&#8220;It turns out that when you have connections that essentially don&#8217;t have strength for the loads that they are being subjected to. And you have this massive failure of a column it does not take time. The structure has lost all integrity at that point in time.&#8221;</p>
<p>So even though the theorised weakening was localised, the sudden loss of structural integrity in one corner of the building led to a total simultaneous collapse.</p>
<p>Ok, fine I can accept that possibility. But wait! Then Jones is mentioned as having suggested thermite cutting charges were used, and how does the BBC counter that argument?</p>
<p>&#8220;The demolition contractor, Mark Loizeaux says the timing of when the explosions on the columns are set off is critical. He cannot see how thermite or any derivative of thermite could have been used to deliberately demolish Tower 7.</p>
<p>&#8220;I&#8217;ve never seen anyone use a material, which melts steel for demolition purposes. I don&#8217;t see how you could possibly get all of the columns to melt through at the same time.&#8221; </p>
<p>So apparently if you use explosives or thermite the timing is CRITICAL; if you don&#8217;t get it exactly right you do not get an implosion. Yes, that we have all heard many times before&#8230; but wait, weren&#8217;t we just told that such perfect timing is NOT needed to gain the results seen?</p>
<p>If the symmetry etc of the collapse is NOT evidence against scattered fires, how can it be evidence against controlled demolition? Either it requires precisely timed and placed detonations, or any kind of scattered fire can do it. You can&#8217;t have it both ways.</p>
<p>If it&#8217;s the latter, why does it take &#8220;months to design and months to prepare the structure for the placement of charges&#8221; Why not just set fire to buildings and let &#8220;nature&#8221; take its course?</p>
<p>Also, according to Loizeaux no one would even try to bring down a building using thermite because it would be impossible to get the simultaneous ignition required to cause an implosion. OK, but who said the people who rigged the building were TRYING to make it implode? Maybe they WANTED it to collapse asymmetrically (thus looking more natural) maybe they intended for only a partial collapse or maybe they intended the building to fall on another building. There are a whole lot of reasons someone may decide to use a method other than that used in controlled demolition. So the fact that thermite is not used commercially for the job in no way proves that thermite could not have been used &#8211; this was not a commercial controlled demolition &#8211; it was an attack that did not care one bit about possible collateral damage.</p>
<p>In fact it seems to me that the ultimate result was a mistake &#8211; something went wrong with both the timing and placement of the charges, and rather than an seemingly natural collapse soon after the first two, they ended up with a long delayed collapse that in the end screamed &#8220;DEMOLITION!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Victor T</title>
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		<dc:creator>Victor T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 22:42:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fire bringing down WTC7 is the only excuse they have before officially admitting that they were brought down with controlled demolition. Its quite obvious to anyone with a brain that fire did not bring down this building. Even in the most intense fire imaginable, the building would have still just been burnt to a crisp, NOT collapse. Its impossible and they need to accept the science and no the fantasy. Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fire bringing down WTC7 is the only excuse they have before officially admitting that they were brought down with controlled demolition. Its quite obvious to anyone with a brain that fire did not bring down this building. Even in the most intense fire imaginable, the building would have still just been burnt to a crisp, NOT collapse. Its impossible and they need to accept the science and no the fantasy. Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: newfy777</title>
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		<dc:creator>newfy777</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 21:02:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the building would not have toppled if it had indeed come down from fire..why? because conventional,jet fuel,kerosene,or diesel fire never would have brought this building down..not even a remote chance..not ever..not in this world,with absolute proven laws of motion and gravity..its 1st grade basic physics..the building could have been completely engulfed in fire from floor 1 to floor 47 and it WOULD NOT HAVE COLLAPSED..thats exactly why huge 6 inch thick structual steel is used as the main building framing for Christs sake..so it remains standing upright when and if they catch on fire! DUH! Gosh dern..the media must think the sheep are either stupid,stupider,stupidest or just dead dumb AAAAAAAAAHHHHH!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the building would not have toppled if it had indeed come down from fire..why? because conventional,jet fuel,kerosene,or diesel fire never would have brought this building down..not even a remote chance..not ever..not in this world,with absolute proven laws of motion and gravity..its 1st grade basic physics..the building could have been completely engulfed in fire from floor 1 to floor 47 and it WOULD NOT HAVE COLLAPSED..thats exactly why huge 6 inch thick structual steel is used as the main building framing for Christs sake..so it remains standing upright when and if they catch on fire! DUH! Gosh dern..the media must think the sheep are either stupid,stupider,stupidest or just dead dumb AAAAAAAAAHHHHH!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Swagwoof</title>
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		<dc:creator>Swagwoof</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 07:04:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Barry Jennings said he was alone but kept saying &quot;we&quot; when reffering to his escape. Very odd</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barry Jennings said he was alone but kept saying &#8220;we&#8221; when reffering to his escape. Very odd</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anthony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 01:28:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why are the BBC and Popular Mechanics explaining an event that the U.S. government should be explaining? Why has the 9/11 Commission not been held accountable for not even mentioning the destruction of building 7 in there &quot;official&quot; account of what happened on 9/11? The BBC can shove their hoakey documentary. NIST already stated that there was a low probability of the building coming down as a result of fire, yet that is the same tired excuse they all keep coming back to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why are the BBC and Popular Mechanics explaining an event that the U.S. government should be explaining? Why has the 9/11 Commission not been held accountable for not even mentioning the destruction of building 7 in there &#8220;official&#8221; account of what happened on 9/11? The BBC can shove their hoakey documentary. NIST already stated that there was a low probability of the building coming down as a result of fire, yet that is the same tired excuse they all keep coming back to.</p>
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