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		<title>By: Ken Hall</title>
		<link>http://www.prisonplanet.com/global-warming-advocates-cite-elite-cover-up-conspiracy.html/comment-page-1#comment-35906</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Hall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 19:33:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh and by the way Karmakazi, you claim 0.1 degree warming &quot;trend&quot; over the last decade. 0.1 degrees over a decade is NOT unusual at any time in history and is very much within natural variability and does NOTHING to prove or even corroberate AGW.

That said, the last decade runs from 1998 to 2008. 1998 being the hottest year since the 1930&#039;s. 2008 being about 0.5 degrees AT LEAST cooler. That is NOT a warming trend ANY way you try to twist and spin it. Since 1998 global mean temperature dropped, rose a little for a while then levelled out for a while then dropped again leaving mean global temperatures LOWER than in 1998. 

Only the AGW Cultist&#039;s at NASA under Dr Hansen (who constantly re-jigs his figures to falsely accentuate any warming) say otherwise. All the other global temperature monitoring bodies, show temperatures falling recently and no overall warming for at least a decade.

You can call me all the names under the sun, but computerised climate models did not predict what has actually happened, your wild and desperately childish tantrums notwithstanding.

I suggest that you grow up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh and by the way Karmakazi, you claim 0.1 degree warming &#8220;trend&#8221; over the last decade. 0.1 degrees over a decade is NOT unusual at any time in history and is very much within natural variability and does NOTHING to prove or even corroberate AGW.</p>
<p>That said, the last decade runs from 1998 to 2008. 1998 being the hottest year since the 1930&#8217;s. 2008 being about 0.5 degrees AT LEAST cooler. That is NOT a warming trend ANY way you try to twist and spin it. Since 1998 global mean temperature dropped, rose a little for a while then levelled out for a while then dropped again leaving mean global temperatures LOWER than in 1998. </p>
<p>Only the AGW Cultist&#8217;s at NASA under Dr Hansen (who constantly re-jigs his figures to falsely accentuate any warming) say otherwise. All the other global temperature monitoring bodies, show temperatures falling recently and no overall warming for at least a decade.</p>
<p>You can call me all the names under the sun, but computerised climate models did not predict what has actually happened, your wild and desperately childish tantrums notwithstanding.</p>
<p>I suggest that you grow up.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Hall</title>
		<link>http://www.prisonplanet.com/global-warming-advocates-cite-elite-cover-up-conspiracy.html/comment-page-1#comment-35884</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Hall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 18:33:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Karmakazi, if there was a consensus about man being responsible for warming the planet throughout the 1990&#039;s then the IPCC would NOT have had to make such a big deal of pretending that there was finally sucjh a consensus suddenly being available in 2006.  NOBODY disputes that temperatures rose throughout the 1980&#039;s and 1990&#039;s, and there IS concensus on that, BUT there was a complete LACK of consensus as to the reason for this rise in temperature from right across the scientific community as a whole, or the climate researchers to be specific.

In fact &quot;scientific consensus&quot; is an oxymoron in scientific research terms. There is NO scientific consensus on AGW now. If there was, then we would not be responding to media reports of AGW or the scientific disputes surrounding that hypothesis. 

The pro AGW crowd have to falsely pretend there is consensus by claiming that there is consensus amongst scientists (but only those that agree with AGW) They ignore all those scientists that disagree with AGW, even to the extent that the qualifications, previous achievements, scientific papers published and awards received by any full time research scientists are utterly ignored and even rubbished if their research disputes AGW.

It is interesting to me that you throw labels around with careless abandon such as retard, when you clearly have NO idea who you are dealing with. 

It is easy and so very lazy to retort to simple and crass insults of this sort and this demonstrates how you cannot back up your arguments and you give in and throw meaningless and simple crude insults instead.  This shows that your arrogance is only matched by your ignorance. 

I can understand however why you should feel this way, as it is natural to be aggressive when lonely. After all, your brain cell has been alone for such a long time now. If I ever am available for a brain transplant, I really hope that I get yours, as I would prefer one that has never been used!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Karmakazi, if there was a consensus about man being responsible for warming the planet throughout the 1990&#8217;s then the IPCC would NOT have had to make such a big deal of pretending that there was finally sucjh a consensus suddenly being available in 2006.  NOBODY disputes that temperatures rose throughout the 1980&#8217;s and 1990&#8217;s, and there IS concensus on that, BUT there was a complete LACK of consensus as to the reason for this rise in temperature from right across the scientific community as a whole, or the climate researchers to be specific.</p>
<p>In fact &#8220;scientific consensus&#8221; is an oxymoron in scientific research terms. There is NO scientific consensus on AGW now. If there was, then we would not be responding to media reports of AGW or the scientific disputes surrounding that hypothesis. </p>
<p>The pro AGW crowd have to falsely pretend there is consensus by claiming that there is consensus amongst scientists (but only those that agree with AGW) They ignore all those scientists that disagree with AGW, even to the extent that the qualifications, previous achievements, scientific papers published and awards received by any full time research scientists are utterly ignored and even rubbished if their research disputes AGW.</p>
<p>It is interesting to me that you throw labels around with careless abandon such as retard, when you clearly have NO idea who you are dealing with. </p>
<p>It is easy and so very lazy to retort to simple and crass insults of this sort and this demonstrates how you cannot back up your arguments and you give in and throw meaningless and simple crude insults instead.  This shows that your arrogance is only matched by your ignorance. </p>
<p>I can understand however why you should feel this way, as it is natural to be aggressive when lonely. After all, your brain cell has been alone for such a long time now. If I ever am available for a brain transplant, I really hope that I get yours, as I would prefer one that has never been used!</p>
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		<title>By: Stalin</title>
		<link>http://www.prisonplanet.com/global-warming-advocates-cite-elite-cover-up-conspiracy.html/comment-page-1#comment-35828</link>
		<dc:creator>Stalin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 16:39:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>these paranoid leaders do not like challenge..
the little bird should be careful where he sings..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1V5iCUBEUx4</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>these paranoid leaders do not like challenge..<br />
the little bird should be careful where he sings..</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1V5iCUBEUx4" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1V5iCUBEUx4</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.prisonplanet.com/global-warming-advocates-cite-elite-cover-up-conspiracy.html/comment-page-1#comment-35702</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 12:36:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Their arguments have successfully delayed significant political action to deal with greenhouse gas emissions. Recent research reveals how the roots of this argument stretch back to two hugely influential reports written almost 30 years ago.&quot;

Apparently they forget (or hoped that the world does not know how to research the archives) that 32 years ago Newsweek reported that we were headed to an &#039;Ice Age&#039; due to drastic drops in the global temperature.( http://www.denisdutton.com/cooling_world.htm )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Their arguments have successfully delayed significant political action to deal with greenhouse gas emissions. Recent research reveals how the roots of this argument stretch back to two hugely influential reports written almost 30 years ago.&#8221;</p>
<p>Apparently they forget (or hoped that the world does not know how to research the archives) that 32 years ago Newsweek reported that we were headed to an &#8216;Ice Age&#8217; due to drastic drops in the global temperature.( <a href="http://www.denisdutton.com/cooling_world.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.denisdutton.com/cooling_world.htm</a> )</p>
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		<title>By: Karmakaze</title>
		<link>http://www.prisonplanet.com/global-warming-advocates-cite-elite-cover-up-conspiracy.html/comment-page-1#comment-35662</link>
		<dc:creator>Karmakaze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 10:33:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ken Hall

You&#039;re a retard. Not one thing you said just then was true. Yes, there was a consensus in the 90&#039;s and yes the world is warming! The last decade has seen a 0.1 Degree Celsius warming trend, despite what the liars and deniers tell you.

@RayB

You&#039;re wrong RayB, totally and utterly.

@Zombie America

That dumbarse you are talking to is on YOUR side!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ken Hall</p>
<p>You&#8217;re a retard. Not one thing you said just then was true. Yes, there was a consensus in the 90&#8217;s and yes the world is warming! The last decade has seen a 0.1 Degree Celsius warming trend, despite what the liars and deniers tell you.</p>
<p>@RayB</p>
<p>You&#8217;re wrong RayB, totally and utterly.</p>
<p>@Zombie America</p>
<p>That dumbarse you are talking to is on YOUR side!</p>
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		<title>By: Paulson is an idiot</title>
		<link>http://www.prisonplanet.com/global-warming-advocates-cite-elite-cover-up-conspiracy.html/comment-page-1#comment-35646</link>
		<dc:creator>Paulson is an idiot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 09:09:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The London Times is about as credible as the &quot;Dick Cheney Daily&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The London Times is about as credible as the &#8220;Dick Cheney Daily&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Zombie America</title>
		<link>http://www.prisonplanet.com/global-warming-advocates-cite-elite-cover-up-conspiracy.html/comment-page-1#comment-35611</link>
		<dc:creator>Zombie America</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 04:58:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Atomic bombs warm the planet? There&#039;s a new one I haven&#039;t heard before. 

Did Gore help you form that brain fart?

One more queston: can you get any dumber?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Atomic bombs warm the planet? There&#8217;s a new one I haven&#8217;t heard before. </p>
<p>Did Gore help you form that brain fart?</p>
<p>One more queston: can you get any dumber?</p>
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		<title>By: RayB</title>
		<link>http://www.prisonplanet.com/global-warming-advocates-cite-elite-cover-up-conspiracy.html/comment-page-1#comment-35414</link>
		<dc:creator>RayB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 21:27:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a piece of toilet paper which I would not even wipe my ass with!!!  How many times can someone put &quot;consensus&quot; in a text?  Well, this guy did.  What else could he do since he is obviously lacking the knowledge and brains to understand the science.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a piece of toilet paper which I would not even wipe my ass with!!!  How many times can someone put &#8220;consensus&#8221; in a text?  Well, this guy did.  What else could he do since he is obviously lacking the knowledge and brains to understand the science.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Hall</title>
		<link>http://www.prisonplanet.com/global-warming-advocates-cite-elite-cover-up-conspiracy.html/comment-page-1#comment-35374</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Hall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 20:23:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More revisionism from Climate warming cultists. They are now claiming that there was scientific consensus on AGW during the 1990&#039;s and this has been cynically challenged by industry and political sceptics. What utter BS!!! 

The only thing that has really challenged the hypothesis of AGW as modelled by the cult is the Actual earth on which we live cooling down and the computer model based predictions being wrong!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More revisionism from Climate warming cultists. They are now claiming that there was scientific consensus on AGW during the 1990&#8217;s and this has been cynically challenged by industry and political sceptics. What utter BS!!! </p>
<p>The only thing that has really challenged the hypothesis of AGW as modelled by the cult is the Actual earth on which we live cooling down and the computer model based predictions being wrong!</p>
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