They want to kill us with CO2 while their lies are sufficient

OK well that’s the extreme drooler side, but all those who support a carbon tax R just hippies inside. Hippie = suicidal idiot. Zio-con = suicidal idiot. The real humans R somewhere between. Don’t bother trying 2 educate idiots. They’re the same fukwits woul would elect a nig 4 president – insane

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Global CO2 ALWAYS rises in direct response to the rise in global temperatures, which is caused by the Milankovich cycles. The Ice Age cycle is well known and definitively proven science, and human-caused Global Warming is not.

The belief that Global Warming is caused by human activity makes you an Ice Age denier. And no, you really CAN’T logically believe in both, because the scanty evidence for human-caused Global Warming is completely trumped by the overwhelming evidence for the Ice Age cycle.

So you’re either a Global Warming denier or an Ice Age denier; there is no middle ground.

You seem to confuse the message with the messenger. To all of you nutbags who think that a radio transmitter(haarp) can make weather modification and have an effect on the environment but cant see how 6 billion people living their lives could have any effect…. well.. im not into calling names..use your imagination. but not too much, it seems to lead you astray…

What the Vostok data plainly shows is that global temperatures ALWAYS peak, and they peak SHARPLY, at the close of every warm period between Ice Age glacial maximums. This occurs approximately every 110,000 years, in exact accordance with the Milankovich cycles.

And it isn’t just the Vostok data — sea sediment cores show essentially the same thing, and the ice core, sea sediment core, geologic evidence, and Milankovich cycle all agree on the same pattern and timing for the Ice Age cycle.

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What the Vostok data graph shows us is that each Ice Age glacial maximum lasts about 100,000 years, and that in between each Ice Age glacial maximum there is a warm interstadial, or glacial minimum, which lasts about 12,000 years. On the Vostok data graph, the warm interastadials are represented by the very highest peaks of the graph.

What I’m describing to you is Paleoclimatology 101, Stephen. It is a well know fact that you will learn in any first year Geology or Climatology class that the earth entered the current warm interstadial, or glacial minimum, about 12,000 years ago, and that 12,000 years is about as long as a warm interstadial normally lasts.

A preponderance of evidence of every kind shows that the earth is nearing the very end of the current warm interstadial, and we are on the verge of returning to Ice Age conditions. That is what climatologists were saying during the 1970s, and that situation HAS NOT CHANGED. In fact, newer and additional data, such as the Vostok ice core data that was collected during the late 1990s, REAFFIRMS and REINFORCES the conclusion that the current warm interstadial is almost finished and the earth will soon return to Ice Age conditions.

I’m arguing from the standpoint mainstream climatology, Steve. Global temperatures ALWAYS peak sharply at the close of a 12,000 year-long warm interstadial, just before the onset of a cyclic return to Ice Age conditions. This is college textbook information, and it has been for decades.

The fact is that IN NO WAY does the current theory of human-caused ‘Global Warming’ supercede or ‘trump’ the long-standing, well-established, multidisciplinary evidence that the earth is now at the end, or very nearly the end, of a 12,000 year-long warm interstadial, and that the earth is now on the verge of returning to Ice Age conditions.

Stephen, you wrote:
“Please understand that correlation doesn’t necessarily mean causation.”

If you understood what I wrote above, and if you know how to read the Vostok data graph correctly, you would realize that a ‘correlation’ is exactly what the proponents of the human-caused Global Warming theory are describing. Actually, the onus is on the proponents of human-caused Global Warming to prove their maverick theory, and they have not at all succeeded in doing so.

The CAUSATION of the earth’s long-term climate change during the epochal cycle of the Ice Age glacial maximums and warm interstadials has already been very well proven and established by climatologists as a product of the astronomical Milankovich cycles. You may call that a ‘correlation’ if you wish, Stephen, but it has been the prevailing opinion of climatologists for at least the past 70 years, and IT STILL IS.

When you talk about temperature records over the past one or two hundred years, you are talking about the WEATHER, not climate. To understand climate, you need to look at data that covers not hundreds of years, but THOUSANDS of years.

The data of the Vostok ice cores, which covers the past 400,000 years, shows that global temperature ALWAYS peaks sharply just before the resumption of Ice Age conditions.

When I was a kid we might have two weeks like this in August, but that was about IT. And that was only forty years ago.

The issue isn’t that we haven’t had hotter periods during the existence of earth but that THIS period has happened within the blink of an eye (geologically speaking)—in the last hundred years. Your own heat chart show this spike upward, and there are others on the net that show it still more starkly.

C’mon, folks, do you really like sweating that much?