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Global warming is not our fault, say most voters in Times poll
Ben Webster
London Times
Saturday, Nov 14th, 2009
Less than half the population believes that human activity is to blame for global warming, according to an exclusive poll for The Times.
The revelation that ministers have failed in their campaign to persuade the public that the greenhouse effect is a serious threat requiring urgent action will make uncomfortable reading for the Government as it prepares for next month’s climate change summit in Copenhagen.
Only 41 per cent accept as an established scientific fact that global warming is taking place and is largely man-made. Almost a third (32 per cent) believe that the link is not yet proved; 8 per cent say that it is environmentalist propaganda to blame man and 15 per cent say that the world is not warming.
Tory voters are more likely to doubt the scientific evidence that man is to blame. Only 38 per cent accept it, compared with 45 per cent of Labour supporters and 47 per cent of Liberal Democrat voters.
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November 14th, 2009 at 4:25 am
Produce more Co2
Trees will love you for it
Nobody is going to swallow
these lies and taxes
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Cyberpig Reply:
November 14th, 2009 at 11:34 am
What ever your view is we are still polluting the hell out of this planet, whether global warming is happening or not.
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Bob Reply:
November 14th, 2009 at 1:12 pm
So are you the resident shill piggy?
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Peter Wolf Reply:
November 14th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
Are you saying that there isnt pollution ?
November 14th, 2009 at 5:22 am
“Only” 41% is still way too many…
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storky Reply:
November 14th, 2009 at 6:18 pm
Its amazing that retard AGW-deniers are winning converts. No science supports their assertions. Bush Era anti-intellectualism, No Child Left Behind, has served its purpose. People are less well informed than ever.
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Quacksilver Reply:
November 15th, 2009 at 1:29 am
You twat – you’re working for the same shitholes as Bush is/was – but you just don’t “seem” to get it…
Now, that makes you a very useful idiot – or – you’re just trying to make a living here as a paid troll fully aware of everything… so, take your pick, dick…
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storky Reply:
November 15th, 2009 at 10:00 am
I thought you were ignoring me, pussy.
When I post here, I represent no-one other than myself and receive no compensation.
The company I work for has no political affiliations, but I do know that the CEO has Republican leanings so I avoid political discussions with him.
Either through substandard education or gross incompetence, your fallacious insistence that I am paid only underscores that fact that you are incapable of debating the points.
Quacksilver Reply:
November 16th, 2009 at 1:40 pm
So, you’re a useful idiot working for them for free then… well, that makes sense too since you’re not exactly the sharpest tool in their toolbox…
November 14th, 2009 at 5:39 am
Dont worry the believers will soon wake up when the carbon tax bill arrives in the post.
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November 14th, 2009 at 5:57 am
I have been holding my breathe to reduce my carbon footprint. Come on people join me and stop being so selfish. How much carbon dioxide do you think you have the right to produce. Hail king Obama ! Christ my dog just farted, I guess its time to put him down so no more climate change occurs. It is cold as hell in NJ right now and I know it is because my dog just farted. People can’t you see the obvious science behind this ?
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Nebraska Teabagger Reply:
November 14th, 2009 at 1:07 pm
Too funny
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storky Reply:
November 14th, 2009 at 6:24 pm
Nah, the funniest part is you both proudly wear the teabagger moniker!
Bah ha ha ha ha!
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November 14th, 2009 at 6:29 am
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS GLOBAL WARMING! IF ANYTHING, WE ARE APPROACHING THE NEXT ICE AGE! THAT’S THE REAL INCONVENIENT TRUTH! IT’S ALL ABOUT MONEY AND POPULATION CONTROL!! WAKE UP NOW! NON-COMPLIANCE GETS YOUR COUNTRY BACK!
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MARK OF THE BEAST Reply:
November 14th, 2009 at 1:50 pm
You are correct Joseph. Natural cyclical climate changes are a fuction of the alignmnet of our solar system within the center of the galaxy which changes the behavior of the sun. If any change is due within 10 years it will be a cooling trend with very cold winters.
The imposter, socially promoted, Kenyan born president is just a puppet of the Global Iluminati inbred psychopaths. The larges heist in the histroy of the world has taken place from the American People through corrupt international banking carters. The farce of global warming is simply another scare tatic to rob the American industries and put them out of business along with good competant doctors and hospitals. Comrade Obama, the community agitator from a trashy neighborhood in Chicago is just a man who believes in the NWO plan to destroy the free markets of America and install Marxism which has never worked for any population of any country on the planet, other than the enslave the people into serfdom and poverty. Comrade Obama, the Marxist/Facist has taken advantage of the poor and the ignorant of this country to seize control of land, labor and capital. If he suceeds without a major revolution it will be the first time in history a country has laid down to tyranny without a fight. It is evident that his pupet master George Soros, the Nazi has brainwashed Comrade Obama, and this poor ignorant shill really believes himself to be a world leader even when the entire world laughs at his ignorance. The Bilderberg has found this shill to destroy the greatest country on earth
and he dances to his puppet strings just like a little communist doll. This plan has been a long long time in the making and as a prerequsite the schools and universities were destroyed by polluting the the curriuculums and rewriting history, the television media and newspaper media has been hi-jacked and pukes out nothing but propogand and politically correct crap, the automotive industy which ultimately affects 1 in four jobs in America was systematically destroyed and sold off, the financial markets and banking industry has been forever crippled, and the united states dollar currency is being devalued and destroyed by 200 fat old greedy inbred psychpaths who acutally believe they are some kind of Gods destin to rule the world.
These manics want to control your utilities, food, water, housing, education, and standard of living. It is intentional and systematic destructon of capitalism and the American way of life that has been second to no other nation in the world for over 200 years. All
of this will be gone and Comrade Obama will go down in history along side, Musoulin, Stalin, Hitler, Lenin, Mao Sae Tung, and all the other Hispanic mass murders and dictators who believe liberty and a good standard of living is only for themselves and the people are just slaves and serfs. All is being accomplished through the guise of liberlism and welfare programs for all which has never been accomplished anywhere. Comrade Obama is the biggest liar of all and the very fools that helped to elect this sick Joker will sufffer first and most severly for their ignorance and belief in an imposter. Cormrade Obama has shamed America and been played for a fool by every country in the world.
The biggest heist is yet to come and it is named CAP AND TRADE.
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josephys Reply:
November 14th, 2009 at 2:57 pm
Don’t forget about Codex Alimentarius. The removal of nutrients from our food. Just sickening! I’m not worried. Once they hit our wallets, they will pay the ultimate price when gun owners wake up! Obama is only doing what he is told by the global elites. They have all done what they have been told ever since Kennedy was taken out. It’s just a matter of time before gun owners rise up and take the country back. Look out for more Fluoride in our water too!
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storky Reply:
November 14th, 2009 at 6:34 pm
Of course you haven’t a speck of scientific evidence to support your assertion.
Despite cooler than normal temperatures in the US and Scandinavian countries, Globally, October 2009 was the SIXTH WARMEST October on record. The ten warmest years on record have all occurred since 1997
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November 14th, 2009 at 7:39 am
If you have not heard of the “Iron Mountain Report”, read the report or have watched the video by Stewart Best Video productions, you are deeply in the dark about the true agenda behind what is transpiring at this moment in history.
This report was concluded in 1967 and ALL of the things within this report are coming to fruition RIGHT NOW. So, do yourself a favor and watch this video and you will have a greater understanding of the what, the who, and the why of what is happening to your country.
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storky Reply:
November 14th, 2009 at 7:05 pm
. . . Nostradamus got it right too. Several times for the same predictions, even.
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November 14th, 2009 at 7:59 am
life changing mantras
http://www.AlchemyMantra.com
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November 14th, 2009 at 8:36 am
This is NOT Global Warming…….This IS Global “Freezing MY FUCKING ASS OFF”!
What will it take for people to see the TRUTH?
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storky Reply:
November 14th, 2009 at 6:40 pm
Put on a sweater.
Things will get nice and toasty when this current quiescent solar cycle ends.
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dorky Reply:
November 15th, 2009 at 1:38 am
Right – the temps might go up by some tenths of a degree in the next 20-30 years again… after which they’ll go down again… then up.. down… and well – within a few thousand years we’re in a middle of an ice-age AGAIN… brrrrrrr… dejá-vu?…
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storky Reply:
November 15th, 2009 at 10:03 am
. . . as opposed to the not-at-all-ice-age, you buffoons claim we are currently experiencing?
November 14th, 2009 at 10:34 am
quote;Global warming is not our fault, say most voters in Times poll…..
But yet they can’t see that this flu bug was man made, Baaa ahahah
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November 14th, 2009 at 11:25 am
All I can say is thank God people are finally waking up to the fact this is all drivel. I remember the polls when 75% believed in Global Warming and that it was manmade. Fact is the earth warms, then cools, then warms, then cools, etc, etc. It’s the way the Earth maintains balance.
A lot of data is showing that we have moved into a cooling cycle. Not a big deal by ordinary standards, but the only troubling thing is, we’re overdue for our next iceage. Or is that little factoid just more scientist’s trying to get funding?
If you’re reading this – you are the resistance…
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storky Reply:
November 14th, 2009 at 7:07 pm
Yes, I resist ignorance, misinformation and disinformation.
AGW-deniers have everything going for them except scientific evidence.
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November 14th, 2009 at 2:30 pm
Al Gore is working overtime to desperately explain to the people of this world that if we do not do as he says, then Global Warming will DESTROY THIS PLANET!
What the hell is wrong with people – do they not know THE TRUTH when they hear it?
Al Gore said in San Francisco just this week that he has put all his money where his mouth is, which makes the rest of us hypocrites for not investing our time and money into the same cause he is trying to SAVE US with, by promoting the TRUTH of Global Warming.
This is not just some trivial matter which people can be left to think on their own and decide one way or another. The time is running out and if we do not create a powerful international government to fight this disaster of Global Warming that is coming down the railway like a runaway train, we will all be DEAD.
Do people prefer death instead of defending the need for a global-government to save us from the FACT of Global Warming?
I rest my case.
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john Reply:
November 14th, 2009 at 3:06 pm
You are a fucking asshole and probably a Government plant for this thread! You and Al Gore must be Ass Buddies! THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS GLOBAL WARMING DUMB FUCK!
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johnny5 Reply:
November 14th, 2009 at 3:09 pm
GreenGenius! If you believe Al Gore, why don’t you pay for it so i don’t have to! Dumb shits like you fucking piss me off! You actually believe that if we pay ANOTHER tax, that it will fix global warming? Yeah right! How the hell is money going to fix nature? Stupid dumbass cocksucker!
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storky Reply:
November 14th, 2009 at 6:44 pm
Yeah, you should follow the rants of the Lush Rimbaugh, Glenn Beck and the other Reich-Wing sociopaths who oppose rationality.
Peter Wolf Reply:
November 14th, 2009 at 3:08 pm
You better had rest your case because its weak.
Case dismissed.
Next………………..
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MARK OF THE BEAST Reply:
November 14th, 2009 at 4:50 pm
GREEN GENIUS WENT TO PUBLIC SCHOOLS AND VOTED FOR OBAMA. CASE CLOSED
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storky Reply:
November 14th, 2009 at 6:50 pm
As opposed to what, Tinkerbell? Those who were taught Creationism and think they understand science?
You’re right, AGW-deniers, like birthers, would be LAUGHED out of a courtroom, not to mention any responsible scientific forum.
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November 14th, 2009 at 3:02 pm
Get your guns and get ready to rumble! Your first enemy will be your neighbors. They will be desperate for your food and water when Martial Law starts and the power grid goes down. The elites will sit back for a while and let us kill each other at first before they send the foreign troops into the streets. Yes, they will use foreign UN Troops because they won’t have a problem killing Americans. They will run like girls!!!!! Tyranny always underestimates the people. Oh! This is going to be fun!
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storky Reply:
November 14th, 2009 at 6:55 pm
Seek psychiatric care.
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November 14th, 2009 at 3:20 pm
Global warming is not the peoples fault because WE didn’t make the products that are contributing to all the CO2 gases being emitted, which is not a big deal anyway.
But even if it were, we didn’t make the cars SO polluting, WE’RE not the ones keeping the electric cars and other alternative vehicles, fuel sources and other inventions from the public..yet they want to tax US for it??? Screw that!!
Let them tax THEMSELVES since they’re the ones creating all this crap in the first place!!
Of course now they want to spin it as though just breathing is the problem…riiight and all the plants, trees, grass, plankton and everything else on earth that creates oxygen just can’t handle all the people right….TOTAL MIND JOB!!!
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November 15th, 2009 at 12:47 am
Those who may read my writing here.. who are still sceptical about the Illuminati agenda for a One World Government & of a New World Order.. keep reading.
Only YOU have the power to STOP the wheel of illusion, lies & deceit from spinning on & on..
OPEN YOUR EYES!!!
~This is actually fucking happening~
I ask you not to let your mind get bogged down with ‘information overload’ so as you snap out a quick ’solution’ & now everything is fine with the world again. It’s not.
Also, it would be wise not to believe the ‘official version’ of things, as soon as you are made ‘aware’ of it. Most of what they sell to you as news is either propaganda to further the feudal lords’ agenda – of a [microchipped population 666] ..aswell as gaining yet MORE power over us (even at the individual level)
—> The other evening I was bored & decided to do a practical experiment with a couple of ‘bulb-like’ CCTV cameras here in the UK police state. To be blunt, I was taunting & showing signs of my disapproval towards them (LoL)
Ofcourse, I had a hoody over my head & a scarf over my face – I was definately not identified. Yet the next evening before I went to work, a mate I work with warned me that the police had arrived about half an hour before I got to my work place. Apparently asked what time I started work so that they could come back later. When they were asked “Is he in trouble?” one of the piggies said “Not yet..”
Me and a friend of mine who shall be named ['Cypher' - Resistance] have recently become known to the local pigs round where we live now, since our ‘little’ campaign of spreading T.A.I or Truth-Awareness-Information in local areas of my residence.
We are both getting harassed by the police for actually standing up for what we believe in.
£550 fine & 70 hours community service each for the destruction of a CCTV camera & graffiti in coloured permanent marker in some car parks.
Information that NEEDED to be said!
Thanks to our little stunts, more people have been made aware of an unknown entity that exists named only as ‘the Illuminati’ who seek 100% control over us all.
Don’t ask me if it was worth it – I just acted on instinct.
If I can do that now… just wait until Martial Law is declared!! ahahah
With The People, Together! We shall bravely stand up against tyranny.
WE ARE… The Resistance
~KAzuKi
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November 15th, 2009 at 1:28 am
In Georgian England the royals and the banking establishment forced a tax called the Window tax – This tax was put on the population as a way of taxing the amount of light you could have into a house! It was a scam designed to make life difficult and tax the middle class to pay for a lavish elite to waste there evil gains on torturous wars amongst other evil activity. If the NWO banking fraudster elites get this cheating fraudulent scam into there proposed laws, then all humans will effectively be paying a tax to breath the god given FREE air on this planet!!! If you want to be free as humans, you must wake up – This is the biggest threat ever to humanity. The Elites want to control you and tax you and poison you!!
If you dont believe this you should do some research into the recent history of British utilities and you will realise that the God given natural resources such as water, are now controlled by a Banking cartel and they used the so called privatisation scam to get control. They promised that this would create competition!! All lies and since privatisation the Elites have been able to tax the UK on the water it uses! They even tax the UK businesses on the amount of water that rains onto their properties!! If we do not stop the elites they will in my opinion wipe out the human race and I beleive that this is their objective, although they are totally evil and ruthless and for the time being they are preparing to enslave humans prior to total ellimnination!!!
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November 15th, 2009 at 6:27 am
All this hype about so-called global warming is a load of rubbish. It’s just another way to impose tax on people. If there was real global warming you would know about it, that’s for sure. The people who reside on the low lying lands near the sea would be migrating in thousands to higher ground and this is not happening. So, what’s all the fuss about?
Nature looks after itself and always has done. More melt of fresh water from the poles and glaciers means that there will be a greater volume of evaporation into the atmosphere. Therefore, some regions on the planet can expect more rainfall than is usual.
As for a slight increase in CO2 (ppm), the trees and plant live will love it. And what do they emit in return? Oxygen, which is necessary for life to exist.
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storky Reply:
November 15th, 2009 at 10:30 am
As for the oceans, however, coral and crustaceans hate it. Acidification of the oceans kills marine life and threatens the food source of millions.
Nice thinking.
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Politicians cost lives Reply:
November 16th, 2009 at 11:20 am
This is just more ridiculous propaganda.
Anyone aware of historical CO2 levels will know that if ocean acidification could occur then life would never have evolved out of the oceans in the first place.
A child could work that out.
Stop spreading lies for the genocidal NWO pedophile ring and get a job!
Don’t believe AGW is a fraud, Know it!
http://www.spinonthat.com/CO2.html
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November 15th, 2009 at 7:53 pm
So, assuming the premise is true; How does paying taxes to people who produce carbon footprints the size of small cities stop global warming?
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November 16th, 2009 at 11:11 am
Carbon Dioxide Levels.
The IPCC claim that current carbon-dioxide levels are rising by 2 ppmv per year.
Human emissions are approximately 8 billion tons, which is 4.1 ppmv. It is claimed that roughly half or 45% of human emissions remain in the atmosphere, while the other 55% is absorbed back into the biosphere. Can you see the obvious flaw in this claim? It implies that natural CO2 production or emission does not contribute to the increase or variation in overall CO2 levels at all and that we humans alone, are responsible for all the increase in overall global CO2 levels.
We are expected to believe that there is no variation in natural CO2 production and emission whatsoever. Even though we know for instance, that the oceans which cover 70% of the globe, absorb more CO2 when they are cooler and release more CO2 when they are warm, and that the strength of solar output varies with the sunspot cycle which has recently entered a quiet phase and that the Earth has a variable elliptical orbit around the sun, among the many other solar and climate variables.
We are all too familiar with the terms El-Nino and La-Nina and understand these to be oceanic temperature fluctuations which occur on such gigantic scales that we have no need to spend billions of dollars just to convince people they are happening because their effects are felt by us all. Not to mention all the other global temperature fluctuations that we all know have happened throughout history, entirely without any human influence whatsoever, such as glacial and inter glacial cycles.
Even with this given indisputable knowledge, are the IPCC and the rest of the AGW fraudsters expecting humanity to swallow their fairy story that this apparent 2 ppmv annual increase in CO2 is entirely the result of one single species of mammal in a world filled with millions upon millions of separate species of gas emitting mammals, organisms, and plants on both land and sea?
This has to be one of the most ridiculous, fraudulent and wantonly deceptive claims I have ever heard.
There cannot be a single scientist on the face of this Earth who genuinely believes such a fallacious claim. Therefore those in the science community who support such fallacy are at best, self serving intellectual prostitutes and at worst, co-conspirators in cahoots with the New World Order Nazi’s in their desperate and repeated attempts to impose a global dictatorship.
Two things are glaringly obvious to me at this time and it is with these two main points I would like to conclude:
1. A global border-less government (New World Order) requires a global border-less taxation system (carbon Tax/Life Tax). It has been suggested (Lord Christopher Monckton) and to anyone paying attention it will be all too obvious, that Copenhagen will be the venue at which Sovereign states will be expected to cede their National Sovereignty to a global governing body. It is also completely clear that this global government will be under the power and influence of the very same parasitic oligarchy, responsible for perpetrating the AGW fraud, which has lead to the Copenhagen summit in the first place. A nefarious group consisting of the largest gaggle of eugenics obsessed, population reductionist, intergenerational Nazi’s, this great and glorious world has ever known.
2. When this lofty, impossible dream of world domination collapses and believe me this is a given, if history tells us anything, the first sacrificial scapegoats will be those that have been instrumental in developing and scripting the sophistry responsible for herding the people of this world into the clutches of the financiers and planners of the previous centuries’ genocidal Nazi’s, namely the intellectual prostitutes of the science community. These scientists who have used sophistry in their pro AGW pseudo science papers, will likely be the first to feel the wrath of the free world. The politicians and elite, who are their paymasters, may be able buy some time but these treasonous traitors will be left high and dry. They will not have anywhere to run or hide this time. They are on record with their sophistry and they have been bubbled. The game is up.
The AGW fraud will be neutralized with one word……………… “CONVECTION”.
Hot air and the truth are subject to the same law of physics. They always rise.
Don’t believe AGW is a fraud, Know it!
http://www.spinonthat.com/CO2.html
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