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Greece-Style Riots Coming To U.S.
Troops and mercenaries will be used to detain Americans in prison camps, warns deadly accurate trends forecaster
Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet.com
Monday, December 15, 2008
Frighteningly accurate trends forecaster Gerald Celente says that America will see riots similar to those currently ongoing in Greece and that the cause will be a hyper-inflationary depression, leading to the inevitable use of troops and mercenaries to deal with the crisis as Americans are incarcerated in internment camps.
As we have highlighted before, Celente’s accuracy is stunning – he predicted the 1987 crash, the sub-prime mortgage crisis and the “panic of 2008,” and is routinely cited even by mainstream news networks as highly credible.
The cause of the riots would be a hyper-inflationary depression, Celente told interviewer Lew Rockwell, causing Americans to revolt in similar circumstances that we have witnessed recently in Iceland and Greece. The trouble would be sparked off by Obama declaring a “bank holiday” whereby people won’t be able to withdraw their money.
“What’s going on in Greece with these riots has nothing to do with a 15-year-old boy being killed, that was only the spark that ignited the pent up, really hatred and disdain, people have for the scandals and corrupt government and the same thing is going on in this country as well,” said Celente.
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Celente reiterated his prediction of a revolution and riots in America, and said that the first signs of it could even emerge before the end of the year.
Celente said that the troops now being brought back to America for “domestic security” would be used to suppress the riots.
“There’s talk of opening all these detention centers and hiring the goon squads, the Blackwaters to run them, so these are realities going on as we speak,” said Celente, adding that the Halliburton subsidiary KBR had been awarded a half a billion dollar contract to build “national emergency” internment camps in the name of detaining illegal immigrants but that they would be used to hold rioting Americans.
“We’re really in a period of ‘off with their heads’ and its going to be the people against the politicians,” said Celente.
Celente said that a breakup of the United States was possible and that the secessionist movement was strong.
“The government owns and runs the largest mortgage company, owns the largest insurance company, they’re going to be owning a piece of the oil industry, so it’s a fight against a totalitarian government…so there’s going to be rebellions and things will change for the better if we break up these criminal governments that are in place now,” said Celente.
The forecaster added that the government was killing people for a false reason in Iraq and robbing people blind with the bailouts at home.
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December 15th, 2008 at 5:43 am
Seven years too late if you ask me. The American people should have taken back the country days after the towers came down. America is no longer United, take it back!
December 15th, 2008 at 6:27 am
March on Capitol Hill asap. Stop this madness.
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February 27th, 2009 at 6:20 am
O.K. May 1st………….United TRUTH Movement marches on capitol hill!!!!!!!!!! This shit needs to be stopped abruptly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE PEOPLE WILL WAKE UP IF WE RING THE BELL LOUD ENOUGH
December 15th, 2008 at 6:30 am
Large violent riots are what the elite want so they can stomp down with an iron boot on the people. If the riots are violent enough against teh troops/mercenary scum, they might come to their senses and back off. Hopefully, enough troops will not wish to become coffin stuffers and will join us.
December 15th, 2008 at 6:36 am
#1, couldn’t agree with you more.
December 15th, 2008 at 6:37 am
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=STyaDkoQYzc
December 15th, 2008 at 6:37 am
Thank god they’ve been busy building all them concentration camps. It’s almost like they knew they’d need them soon? hmmm must be psychics.
December 15th, 2008 at 6:50 am
The people who would have to march on capitol hill would have to be the people who RUN this country and by run this country I mean the guy at the meat market, the cop, the fire fighter, the doctor, the mailman, the electrician, the principal, everyone who keeps this country going would have to stand up and say no more. It wont work if just bloggers like me say no more.
December 15th, 2008 at 6:54 am
Seven years too late for sure! Obviously the whole war in Iraq was a practise run of what’s gonna happen here. The CRIMINALS in Washington and Wall St. and Co. WANT this to happen, they need an excuse, they’re just itching for us to riot. And although we can see the trap, we need to do it anyway! Fore-warned is fore-armed and despite this apparent “dumbing down” of America, in reality we’re really too smart for THEM. They may have been planning this for awhile but we also knew it was coming from the first person to utter a warning about the NWO. To follow #1 : Unite America! Take it back!
December 15th, 2008 at 6:54 am
every yank with friends or family in the military, tell them to spread the word if worst comes to worst, to stand with the people against the government. The whole world hates your war criminal, corrupt government, and from what i hear so does most americans
. remind your peers in the military they are their to protect the citizens of the USA, not the government, armys protecting governments only leads down one road, that is the one hitler took, dont let bush or obama do the same
December 15th, 2008 at 6:59 am
#1 your right.
No longer America, I think we’ll fold when/If, Riots start, Revolution/civil war? what ever you want to call it?
Back of my mind is hoping that I am not alone cause Ill defend my property and neighbors, family, and who knows from there. Good Luck America
December 15th, 2008 at 7:01 am
But If Violence spreads and Gov’t backs off and troops start to realize there working for the wrong team??? Keep Going! And take your Gov’t back
December 15th, 2008 at 7:19 am
When they come for your neighbor shoot ‘em in the back,’cause they’re coming for you next.
Be sure to tell your neighbors to return the favor.
December 15th, 2008 at 7:19 am
Who will survive the next few years? It appears that we’re overshadowed by a global depression initiated by a planned financial collapse on Wall Street, and it spread globally. Foolish investors are weeping as the big bear stands prominently atop of a dead bull. Of course we know from glimpsing the past annuls of history that an unprecedented chaotic period is at hand, and will envelope not only the United States of America, but all other nations as well. Job losses attributed to NAFTA and GATT, has proved beyond any shadow of doubt, instrumental to the demise of the American economy and thereby creating an atmosphere of discontentment among the unemployed. The burden of the welfare state coupled with the necessities of the underemployed and the unemployed, will in it’s entirety be cast upon all the greedy churches which value the dollar above that of the soul, and will reject the poor in their hour of need. They have been suckered into the “Faith Based Initiative” which makes them an extension of the government. The good fundamental churches of our land will suffer extreme hardship that’s attributed to depleted contributions, of a desperate society striving for a meager existence.
The ambushing of grocery trucks headed for the market will enhance food shortages caused by drought and farm foreclosures, and carbon emission laws, the stores will be looted and shelves emptied. Bank and store robberies will be escalated, houses will be ransacked, and murder will be the norm. Mayhem will inevitably arise from empty stomachs as a doggy-dog situation demands survival of the fittest mentality. Racial tensions that are now being promulgated by the media will at that time reach a boiling point, and will spill over into the highways and byways of our land. The turbulent sixties would have appeared to be the eye of the storm in comparison to the volatile uproar that’s certain to come as in the “Mad Max” movie. Pandemonium will prevail over so much of America, that the basic structure of local law enforcement will not be able to subdue the situation. A national emergency will be decreed, and martial law will be declared and enacted at first in major cities, and then nationally as soldier troops patrol the streets. As civil unrest floods into suburbia, and the affluent of society nestled in their lavish homes start to feel the heat from the fire of indifference, desperate cries will be made to summon help from anyone, anywhere.
What an appropriate time for the satanic New World Order (NWO) establishment to exercise its domineering power to restore “Order out of chaos”, The sojourned ignorance of foolish men will respectively accommodate not only the National Guard, FEMA, etc., but also a United Nations presence, to quench the violence of a lit powder keg. Riding upon the heels of this anarchy will be implemented a gun confiscation program as outlined in the 1961 State Department Document 7277, to further subdue a nation in tyranny. But, this blatant violation of the second amendment will not be served on a silver platter, as to no opposition from true patriots. Patriot and militia organizations will form pockets of resistance from coast to coast, in their attempt to fight for the same constitutional freedoms that their forefathers so validly died for. This civil war will surpass all others in recorded history as to the number of dead, and both the blood of the oppressors and that of the martyrs will flow fro the streets of the cities to the rural countryside. The helicopters now training under the guise of urban terrorism, equipped with infrared detection and firepower, will be utilized in relaying strategic assault information to ground combat forces, in a joint effort to eliminate all resistance.
The deterioration of the global economy and breadbasket will be a major catapult for a world raging in war. United Nations troops will be dispatched globally to offset riots, and more will eventually be summoned to the United States to replace a massive desertion of its armed forces personnel. Christians at this time will finally read the handwriting on the wall, and will unite their efforts in one accord, against the satanic NWO’s campaign for global dominance. They will prove their salt, as they deal a severe wound to this continental head of the satanic NWO, but, it’s wound will be healed as the fire of democracy is quenched, (Revelation 13:3). Dissenters from every walk of life and those listed on the red/blue list will respectively be rounded up, and taken to one of the many new federal detention camps. It’s quite possible that Rails to Trails throughout this land will become human highways.
Meanwhile, a beastly economic system similar to the G-7/8/20, will have assumed the role to lead not only world economics as they now do, but also an Interpol force, adherent only to the views of the global village/UN. The Jerusalem issue will be negotiated into a Palestinian stronghold for east Jerusalem, in a mutual exchange for a new Jewish temple built on the Temple Mount with a wall dividing the Temple. At some point in time, the Antichrist will confirm this convent for seven years, only to break it three and one half years later, when literally all hell breaks loose in Israel. Nevertheless, the satanic New World Oder will centralized its economic and military power base. Continental currencies such as the euro, and a proposed “amero” for North America, and all global currencies will be replaced when a world currency is issued, consequently nullifying all existing treasuries.
American sheeples will soon have the wool pulled over their eyes by deceitful prominent Protestant leaders to the extent that they will command total obedience to a wicked government. They will brainwash gullible Christians using Romans 13:1-7 as their biblical reference. Although a careful examination of those verses talk about obeying good rulers, not evil ones, (verse 3 says, “For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil”). Throughout the bible, godly people have ignored evil laws and proclamations given by evil rulers (see Ex 1:17, Dan 3:18, Acts 4:19, etc.). I certainly hope that multitudes, which no man can number, will refuse the global order given to take the mark, name, or number of the beast in Revelation chapter 13.
Mostly all religions will deliver their flocks to the authority of the false prophet (2 Thes. 2:9, Rev. 19:20). The love of the only true God will wax cold as all these New Age, humanistic, pagan elements combine their abominable practices with the Muslims, Hindus, etc. to form a one world religion.
An embodiment of wickedness known as the antichrist will become the political voice of representing the functional capacity of the economic/military machine, (see Revelation 13:1-10). He will accommodate the leader of the world church by forming the last beastly system for societal dominance, (see Revelation 13:11-12). The antichrist will break the convent he confirmed with Israel at midpoint of the 7 year tribulation, (see Daniel 9:27), and will then commence genocidal atrocities against the Jewish race, (Jacob’s trouble). Ten leaders in subjection to the antichrist will destroy Babylon (possibly Brussels) (see Revelation 17:12-13), and in conjunction with him shall dominate the global economy and military force. Thirty days after the invasion of Jerusalem, and the consequential cessation of the daily sacrifices and oblations, the abomination of desolation will be set up in the temple, (see Daniel 12:11). The religious leader will then command total allegiance and worship to the antichrist and his system and will demand all the inhabitants of the Earth to receive the mark of his name (666) in their right hand or forehead (microchip implant, etc.) (see Revelation 13:16-17), which will be required to conduct any financial transactions. Everyone who refuses to accept the Devils mark in compliance with his system, will be executed by decapitation, (see Revelation 20:4) Don’t take the mark !
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December 15th, 2008 at 7:33 am
Take the riot surpressors out, one at a time…taking their equipment off of them…detaining them…and using there equipment against them…we paid for the equipment they are using against us. 100,000 protesters can take out 10,000 heavily armed guards…one at a time…make sure to detain them so that they can not join the ranks again…have the old people and children care for them once they are detained.
December 15th, 2008 at 7:48 am
I look forward to seeing a guillotine in Times Square.
The French did the same job with typically French panache.
Better than lamp posts and twice as fast.
They are robbers and traitors, the scum that has risen to the top.
How much more can the western peoples take before they are forced to the breadline and the status of peasants, both of which are the intent of the elite.
December 15th, 2008 at 7:50 am
Has anyone here heard of SAFE: Shoot All Federal Employees? Interesting concept.
December 15th, 2008 at 7:55 am
Jesus told us to love our enemies, not kill them.
December 15th, 2008 at 8:24 am
I encourage everyone to buy at least one gun and the ammunition for it. If you dont feel comfortable with a large caliber gun then at least get a handgun such as a 38 caliber. Even if things dot go as bad as Mr. Celente is warning, you will at least have self protection in case someone tries to break into your home. Lets face it, the police will either be busy dealing with crime and collapse or they will be at home protecting their families if the crap really hits the fan. Also, if you can, buy or make a few solar panels and a get a battery for storage incase there is a mass electrical failure or power cut-off. A few panels will be able to power lights and appliances.
December 15th, 2008 at 8:27 am
jacob you are a fuckin idiot worthy of an ass rape by blackwater. i will cheer them on.
December 15th, 2008 at 8:34 am
jacob you will be cannon fodder for a good ass raping, maybe you will love that.
December 15th, 2008 at 8:37 am
Those that still hold hope will be the the first to go. Do some research on what happened to the Russian people starting in 1929 and who was truly behind it,who sponsored it, and you will get a understanding of what is to happen and the true murderers behind it. You haven’t heard of this true genocide because of who controls the media and money are the same!
December 15th, 2008 at 8:41 am
you know i would hope everybody would just not be dumbasses in this case..but too many people with nothing to lose as far as family and moral obligation are going to fuck things up for every other american in this country, didnt Ghandi get the criminals out without so much as even the touch of his own crotch?
December 15th, 2008 at 8:50 am
One question. We see lots of footage of the Greece riots. If this were going on here, the cops (and military) would be shooting to kill, and we KNOW this. But we don’t hear of any of that happening there. Why?
And why is this happening in OTHER countries and not here? Well, I think we KNOW what will happen if we do.
My theory is that Bush is actively TRYING to get riots started here in the US by any means possible. We are shown videos of OTHERS rioting and not being killed or hurt badly (but I bet some ARE). I think it is all being orchestrated in such a way that if one thing does not set it off something else might, and we are being only told half truths about other countries response to riots there so that we are not so afraid to try it ourselves. But soon as we do, all hell will break out because we are NOT a free country, and this will give George the incentive to declare martial law and STAY IN OFFICE. Look out. He only has a little time left.
December 15th, 2008 at 8:55 am
@ #27: Bush is going. Obama was chosen for a reason: a black president to incite hatred amidst all those heavily armed rednecks. This provides the establishment with a ready-made reason to crack down on gun ownership and expand the “war on terror” to the white blue-eyed masses.
December 15th, 2008 at 8:57 am
No doubt about it its gonna get damned scary in the states soon. Looks like all them kooks up in the hills with their M16.s and battle dress are not looking so stupid after all now are they? Remember when you used to laugh at these survival nuts?….soon they will have the last laugh and IT WILL BE LOUD.
December 15th, 2008 at 8:57 am
@Jacob Hensel at 7:55 am
Blessed are the meek, For they shall inherit the earth. Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, For they shall be filled. Blessed are the merciful, For they shall obtain mercy. Blessed are the pure in heart, For they shall see God. Blessed are the peacemakers, For they shall be called sons of God. Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness’ sake, For theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Blessed are you when they revile and persecute you, and say all kinds of evil against you falsely for My sake. Rejoice and be exceedingly glad, for great is your reward in heaven, for so they persecuted the prophets who were before you.
December 15th, 2008 at 9:03 am
Billy #23 is right and they’re doing it again.
December 15th, 2008 at 9:07 am
I hope it doesn’t come to violence, but these vicious, insane NWO/globalists are hell-bent on their world domination!!!
(btw, you know those pesky return envelops that come inside your junk mail, especially from corporations? Don’t discard them, send them back with truth flyers, pamphlets, info cards, stickers, deception dollars, etc.!!!)
December 15th, 2008 at 9:09 am
Yeah-Great!! Play their game. That is exactly what they want and headlines like this do not help.
December 15th, 2008 at 9:12 am
Canned goods and Shotguns
December 15th, 2008 at 9:17 am
If need be, BRING IT THE FUCK ON,BABY!!!LET’S ROCK!!!
December 15th, 2008 at 9:18 am
The elites use astrology and that is what Uranus in Aries square to Pluto in Capricorn is all about. Not just in the USA but worldwide, things get very nasty in 2010. Brzezinski said in one of his books “There are revolutionaries just waiting to emerge around 2010. “
December 15th, 2008 at 9:31 am
The sheeple will be slaughtered by the NWO order police as planned. Didn’t Kissinger
wonce sheeple are useless eaters unless they are an Elite. Could not imagine a place with
a bunch of kissingers nobody would be able to do anything but talk and print paper money.
Overheard at an Elite meeting “how do you drive? ” or “what is a Screwdriver?”
December 15th, 2008 at 9:33 am
wait till they (the Elites) start machine gunning Grand Ma.
December 15th, 2008 at 9:34 am
The sad part is that they will send large teams after you guys first. EVERY SINGLE group, community org. or club has a mole in it. I don’t care if it’s a group with you and a friend, one of you is a fedmole. There has been created, a tactical measure, a plan implemented to take down all top activists and troublemakers including their soldiers/captains. They know that doing so quickly, will shut down the first initial stages of a revolution. The more dynamic they are in their assault, the quicker fear will spread to anyone who even thinks about being a hero. Communications will be shut down completely. Don’t forget that throughout history, most revolutions have failed and have become a one-sided blood bath. Sure there are some state militias that are well equipped to defend their state, but that is not nearly enough to spark any change. Americans should equip themselves with the means to survive a revolution, not to start one. Sure, no castle is impenetrable but well defended homes on a street is 100x more effective that a street full of armed homeless people. I know that Patriotism is an American way of life, and it is the real American who realizes that defending Liberty is the job and responsibility of EVERY American, but going out on public forums just to rant about your revolutionary plans is just INSANE! Remember, there is only a very SMALL group of individuals who wish to enslave us, the rest of ‘em are just confused or dumbed down. Spreading the message through non-violent means is and should be the means used. I will not shoot anyone unless I am enlisted in a State Militia or have to do so in order to defend my family & property and neighbors property. I would hope that the rest of you talented survivors would do the same. Recruiting for a state militia would be ideal, but until I see a table setup in the town square, I’m focusing on spreading the word about our liberties and ensuring that my family survives.
December 15th, 2008 at 9:38 am
hey wonce the NWO use up their air in their bunkers they might die or they may overeat
and blow up like a PIG and waddle like a beast from Hell. This place will become
The New USSAR with super Rich Communists and Kulags. Then the leaders will become
thugs and Gentiles will have their Christmas Trees eaten by the Grinch.
December 15th, 2008 at 9:44 am
fight fire w/ fire… literally. they have the upper hand with technology and bullet proof vests, but they still have a weakness, any guesses? FIRE!!! make some molotovs catch one person on fire and that will temporarily take out that person, people around him, and there will be others trying to put him out. Saw it in a video of Ireland back in the 70’s. The cops/military came in and the rioters were throwing stones, molotovs, and blowing buildings up. Also if it comes down to it, 4th generation army-guerilla warfare is the way to go. The military uses 3rd generation armies, and 3rd generation can not defeat 4th generation.
Google: battle of the bogside
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3rd and 4th generation armies
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hQe6dBJSq4
December 15th, 2008 at 9:55 am
If we do respond back in violence that gives the NWO every reason to turn into martial law. Work smarter people!! Working smarter out beats working harder.
December 15th, 2008 at 9:57 am
#17
With all due respect to Jesus, Jesus needs to mind his business.
December 15th, 2008 at 9:59 am
fighting and anarchy is stupid. Peaceful resolution is better. One can totally blame the
economic problems on the Banksters though. Had Glass Seagal not been repealed and Bernacke and othe
Fed Members being doing their jobs instead of playing with themselves we would not have
all this chaos. This is all a repeat of the 1987 fraud crap from Wall Street so we all know
where and how El Fraudo works and thinks and the Taxpayers get the bill and they get the
Money. It really is criminal.
December 15th, 2008 at 10:01 am
See it and believe it: http://www.Patriotscave.blogspot.com
December 15th, 2008 at 10:02 am
Just look at what was accomplisfed in Thailand…the protesters won, now the government is going to have re elections! I hope for global riots!
December 15th, 2008 at 10:03 am
The Sheeple will not win a fight and only more sheeple will get killed. Then everything will
really suck. Peaceful Resolution is much better or LAWSUITS for FRAUD.
December 15th, 2008 at 10:04 am
We must all go through a right of passage. It must be physical, it must be painful,and it must leave a mark.
December 15th, 2008 at 10:10 am
Folks. Don’t fall for this. Violence is what they want.
There is lots you can do to bring rogue government and tyranny to its knees.
Here is a peaceful plan.
Use strikes, boycotts and non-cooperation. This is where the true power lies.
Why damage your community infrastructure, risk yourself bodily and piss off the other 50% of Americans who will cheer on the military and police as they drag you off, beat you, torture you and lock you up.
Turn up for work at the power plant and work to rule, engage in go slows, refuse duties on OSHA grounds or other pretexts. This way, you still get paid and the systems grinds to a halt. If they sack you or stand you down they run the risk of law suits. Recruit pro bono civil rights lawyers to work with you.
Imagine the chaos the slow fueling or unloading of aircraft would cause to the nations air system? You’ll get noticed real quick. Marching and street protests will be ignored by the controlled media. You can’t hide airport lines and airline chaos.
Unionize your workforce immediately if you’ve not already done sot. Prepare a union civil disobedience action plan. Stay united in the work force. They cannot pick you off so easily.
Form separate community and work force cells under the guise of sporting clubs and community service groups. Develop a command and control network between these cells with various pathways between the cells in the event one of the command and control links is broken or needs to be cut off.
Do not congregate where agents provocateurs will instigate violence. This means no public disobedience. If you must, take camera crews and designated witnesses wearing vests identifying their role.
Don’t shop at Walmart for a week or at least organize no shop days there. Boycott McDonalds. Don’t buy big brand Pharma by purchasing no name brands. Don’t drink Coke. Boycott named fuel companies. Produce name and shame lists.
Do the above and these damaged corporates will do your bidding and pressure government on your behalf.
They will be your unpaid advocates. It’s called leveraging your power. You remain peaceful and safe whilst inflicting maximum damage whilst harnessing corporate america. It’s the the art of Judo. You use your opponents force back on them.
Folks. Don’t be stupid. Guns are to protect yourself and your family. They are not to fight wars on your home soil. There cannot be winners from such stupidity.
Rest assured when this depression gets nice an personal for Joe six pack, he will join you and your power will grow.
December 15th, 2008 at 10:10 am
Another thing which is showing up is even the Elites are Blowing up eachother Financially
like that Madorff or whatever fund 50 Billion Dollars “disappeared” So some young people
that are Mad could join the FBI and through all the bums and el fraudos in jail instead of
having a “civil war”. That would be stupid.
December 15th, 2008 at 10:12 am
I have one serious and honest question, what would God have us do in these times? Are we to go down apathetically or go down knowing that we at least fought and died for a cause (which isn’t for freedom of the United States but rather a freedom for the human race)?
December 15th, 2008 at 10:14 am
Anacharists are as Useless as the Elites. They both do “nothing’ but cause problems.
December 15th, 2008 at 10:19 am
Some of you advocate non-violent revolution. That only works when there is a sympathetic government and people, be it foreign or domestic. India was successful because other governments shamed Britan. Increasingly, world governments commit more and more atrocities against their own people. There will be no one feeling sorry for us. When and if the time comes, the only response that will be the correct response is to rise up like a great tsunami and crush the rebelious government. If you all remember, the first revolution was “US and Them” (Americans and Britan). There was support from the French, it was not a common revolution. A purely domestic revolution requires many more people, many more resources, because the external support is not there and people are confussed about their alligences. We will either prevail together or be enslaved together. It is up to us, not your neighbor, not the guys in the next state over…but, each end every one of us. Will you be a freeman or a slave?
December 15th, 2008 at 10:26 am
Was it the French Rothschild Bank funding the Americans and The British Rothschild Branch
funding the British. Either way they win?
December 15th, 2008 at 10:27 am
SECRETS OF WRITING A POST OTHERS WILL READ
Folks. A quick lesson in getting you post read.
1. Use a catchy heading in Capitals – eg. “LET’S DO IT LIKE A GREEK”, “BEND OVER – I’M HERE AND I’M GREEK”
2. Ensure your fist sentence set out your message.
3. Do not use capitals in the body of your text.
4. Use punctuation.
5. Use paragraphs.
6, Keep sentences short.
7. Use point form or numbers to make points quickly.
8. Inject humor or whit. “from the ballot box to the cartridge box..etc”
AND – don’t call for violence. People have families.
A. They don’t need their anxiety levels elevated.
B. They don’t know you so they will reject your call for violence.
C. Sane people will reject your message.
Finally. Keep it short and to the point.
December 15th, 2008 at 10:30 am
Do unto others as they would do unto you.
For the religious amongst you: remember that the ten commandments say that you must not ‘murder’! You can kill if you are being attacked.
December 15th, 2008 at 10:30 am
Plus there are a lot of regular Middle Class people in the Government feeling the “pain’
plus their of alot of people who played by the rules feeling Pain. The Elites or the
“enemy” must be quantified. general Statements like Government is not really correct.
The economic Problems are the Federal Reserve and some not all Politicians that
were elected by sheeple that are now bitching. So the sheeple need to be Educated.
December 15th, 2008 at 10:33 am
We all know the Federal Reserve is a Major Problem and it designed to protect certain
rich people with NO talent except paper money manipulation.
December 15th, 2008 at 10:35 am
@GSor
Let’s cut all the plesantries for once, eh? Let’s call things what they are. Damn right ugly, that’s what they are. People who have families, as I do, and who ARE sane, as I am, would do a great disservice to their children and their descendants if they would lie down and deliver them into the hands of slavery. If you are a coward than lie on the floor with the rest of the dogs. Let your shame be your reward when your children are begging for food and shelter!
December 15th, 2008 at 10:43 am
The RICH are the problem and always have been. There is NO excuse for GREED on a planet of finite resourses. GREED is EGO food alone and food will soon be scarce. Will you let your children starve for another TAX CUT for the RICH!!!
December 15th, 2008 at 10:47 am
It’s very simple, if things get as bad as they can get, what is the correct response?
If your neighbor is being arrested for dissent, (under the guise of enemy combatant/ homegrown terrorism, et al) What is the correct response? Today your neighbor, tomorrow you, what is the correct response?
It is not going to be a declaration of war on the American people. If these things happen it will be one on one, we will be taken one by one. It is a proven method and was very effective in Nazi Germany. We must protect ourselves by protecting our neighbors.
@GSor is right on one account, there should be no call to violence. There should be however an awareness of your neighborhoods. We are our brother’s keeper, and I pray that my brother is my keeper.
December 15th, 2008 at 10:48 am
Riots will get you nothing, I`m already laughing at the nonsense of it. Indeed it is what they want, as long as they can militarily contain it at least, which I`d give a high probability unless the army joins a rebellion in high numbers. I think the army is more likely to join the opposition if there is less rather then more rioting.
What does God want from you ? How about following the rules / principles of a Torah economy, does that make sense ? http://www.jhwh.be Yes, that does make sense.
Anarchists are as useless as the elites they pretend to fight: true. Anarchists are the enemy behind our lines, have been for a long time. We simply ought to band together in solidarity everyone who is decent, and create minority organizations that are professional and an example of decency, a haven of rest, procedural correctness and the best norms of public debate & honesty. Under no circumstances involved with terrorism.
I say: we got to play it cool, know that dictatorship is probably coming down, and that to win we first need the armed forces & police at least half on our side. That will be helped a lot by above mentioned strategy, and it will be destroyed by brainless pointless easily defeated rioting. The rioting only encourages the enemy, and brings in line the troops/police who are in doubt: “see what useless barbarians the population is ? we ought to shoot them where they stand … hmmm yeah, I think you are right, why did they turn this city into a catastrophy, I better take orders from my superiors or we are all dead from these barbarians …”
Use violence if it can really help, like if a majority is already behind a good plan and you are only faced with minority criminal pockets. That is a law enforcement type of violence.
In fact it may be an idea to select some (well behaved?) stores, and protect them from brainless “destroy everything” riots. I say that is the side of decency, and has promise for the future. I dare you find me one soldier who wouldn`t say that protecting property in that way would be honerable and helpfull. In a short while, the soldiers would be taking their orders from us, and not the criminal elites anymore.
December 15th, 2008 at 10:49 am
It is not rogue government, it is rogue RICH such as Madoff. Now will you ask them to PLEASE quit or will you STOP them!!!
December 15th, 2008 at 10:52 am
Draft a formal declaration of war… then we won’t be Anarchists, kind of like 1776.
December 15th, 2008 at 10:55 am
We have already seen over this weekend the precursor to riots or organized peaceful rebellion against the Fed’s and the NWO with the vandalism of the Georgia Guidestones. All that is left now is the catalyst- which will most likely be caused by a cop after the bank holidays and not the bank holiday itself. A pissed off cop is going to be strutting his stuff and venting ont he people after the bank holiday is declared, and he’s going to kill the wrong person. Maybe it’s a child, a fiancee, mother of such and such children- but the cop is going to kill them and push a patriot over the edge. That patriot himself will be the catalyst for the violence- god help the city that patriot lives in, for it will be brutal.
December 15th, 2008 at 11:05 am
Oh and for those that say play it cool, when that patriot is pushed over the edge he won’t give a damn about playing it cool or strategy- blood and rage will be the only thing on his mind. He, or she will be the most dangerous force of all, someone with nothing left to lose! So instead of living in this fantasy world where this is all solved peacefully and where we can control everyone inside and outside the movement and order them to not be violent and not revolt, how about we get back to reality on the planet called earth and come up with strategies and ways to gain are freedom when violence comes? A way to still succeed and strive in the violent times when people won’t give a dman about strategy or peaceful solutions? Alex said himself that the founding fathers tried that peaceful solution delusion and look where that got them, violence. We do not control the people of this country, let alone people within our own movement, this delusion about keeping things peaceful has to stop and solutions for the movement and ways to educate people during violent times so that they attack the real enemies is needed.
December 15th, 2008 at 11:07 am
Jos boersema …NONE of us are preaching Anarchy,so please take your bible thumping elsewhere.None of us want NO government,at least from what I have seen,we just want to eliminate the rogue elements inside the government.
I don’t like the sit around and wait for “God”(whoever yours may be)approach,our founding fathers would despise that idea.Most people won’t look at us like barbarians when they too are out of food.The religious solution really has outstayed its welcome.
Be a true American,not a Christian.Grab your gun and go protect your fellow citizens when the time comes!!You say that is what they want,riots?I doubt it.I think they much prefer your idea.Sit around and wait for them to take total control..THEN do something?I think not.
December 15th, 2008 at 11:13 am
@ GSOR
>>>>>>>>>>>1. Use a catchy heading in Capitals – eg. “LET’S DO IT LIKE A GREEK”, “BEND OVER – I’M HERE AND I’M GREEK”
GO FUCK YOURSELF
December 15th, 2008 at 11:22 am
Greek style riots? The populace of this nation is armed to the teeth.
December 15th, 2008 at 11:34 am
I hate it when people post drivel such as this: “What does God want from you ? How about following the rules / principles of a Torah economy, does that make sense?”
For one thing the Torah was NEVER for a multicultural society and it certainly isn’t jewish either.
The riots in Greece isn’t about a 15 year old getting shot. The incident only triggered the events we are seeing. Riots are the natural reaction to governments that are corrupt, oppressive, and brutal. The sinking economy in Europe is only exasperating the riots and spreading it as well.
Here’s a brain twister. Since the US economy is shipwrecked with a growing number of unemployed, mortgage defaults, and families living on the streets, why hasn’t our government started to round up the 22 million illegals in this country? What a tremendous gesture that would be. It could head off the coming riots in America. Instead, you can bet your ass that the government will wait until these illegals start rioting themselves.
December 15th, 2008 at 11:37 am
When life-as-we-know-it does run amok, vigilantism will rise up. Anarchy is the natural result of the breakdown of established laws due to overwhelming injustices perpetrated by its governing/ruling class.
Soft, easy, and convenient, times will soon be over. Do what you think is right when the time comes. That is all anyone can ask.
We need to remember that calm wisdom defeats the most powerful enemy. Reason wins. Emotional outbursts don’t.
Don’t let yourself become part of a mob mentality.
If fighting back is what you need to do then do it from a sense of honor and dignity, never rage or fear.
Stay sovereign.
December 15th, 2008 at 11:41 am
Say what you like….everytime people riot…you hear about it around the world…but permitted protests wont get a spot in the classifieds
December 15th, 2008 at 11:41 am
boersema….I sure hope you don’t live in Colorado or you are going to be one of the first son of a bitches that dies…which is fine by me cause that is one less person that me and my family will have to help!!
December 15th, 2008 at 11:49 am
Yea right, the AMERICANS are gonna protest. That’s as likely as mutton staging an organized rebellion against the practice of eating sheep. You guys are zombies. No offense to the Prisonplanet guys here who I love so much.
I know you have guns, but come on guys. Few will have the balls to actuaally use them, because they know, that once they shoot at a cop or a soldier patrolling the streets. THEIR ASS IS GONE!! Gunships will fly in, battalions will be organized, tanks will roll in, and there will be no chance in hell your gonna win it.
December 15th, 2008 at 11:57 am
The answer is a criminal investigation for the bush administration, and the federal reserve to be opened, of course they will not want to open one, but it is about getting the word out getting enough of america to understand that the cancer is right in our backyard, there are criminals in our midst and we need to demand accountability!!!! the simple logic is like this, if they know that creating xx more dollars from paper into the economy(the bailouts) equals financial ruin, than it is quite clear that they are doing something criminal, an as far as the bush criminal investigation I dont think I even need to make that argument, but I will in a video, because some need that extra evidence. GET THE WORD OUT, BRING THE CRIMINALS TO JUSTICE!!!! monopoly money baby ooooh yeah!
December 15th, 2008 at 12:02 pm
@67
Riots means merely destroying property, something quite different from a real revolution. Is greece seeing revolution ? Probably not. A coupe ? Probably not, what does a coupe even mean. A change of puppets, but the system remains the same.
If you want to do some shooting, killing and looting and think that will make a difference: by all means go ahead. Then we got some fewer people to worry about next, clears the field for the people who want revolution and build up a new country, rather then do some property destruction that “we the people” will later have to rebuild anyway.
You should have decided to learn economics, and make up your mind about what you wanted next. By the way I am not christian, and I am referring to the great work of Moshe and not fake idol jesus who barely did anything at all. If you knew your economics you would know what I meant.
Once you are done rioting and noticed it didn`t work, you are welcome to go to my site and get on with a more mature strategy.
December 15th, 2008 at 12:11 pm
place your trust in local government… more or less they will agree with you, if not, convince them, bring them information. When the foreign corporation at DC becomes anarchic, it is the responsibility of local government to reject totalittarian government and respect the constitution…. they could even attempt to dismantle the FEMA camps. This is the strength of our union.
December 15th, 2008 at 12:11 pm
How did the only revolution in American history happen?By worshiping false gods and letting them take us over?!Quit being so willfully ignorant..They count on YOU!
December 15th, 2008 at 12:15 pm
Ed–The Torah is not a “society” at all. It is a guidebook on how to live one’s life as purely as possible in connection with G-d. Have you ever even read it? It is ABSOLUTELY to guidebook of the Jewish people. How about you visit a Temple on the Sabbath and listen to a service and go to a Torah study, and find out about what you are so against? Stay afterwards for a few minutes and have a nosh! Your mind has been bent by the NWO.
December 15th, 2008 at 12:21 pm
“Greece-style Riots coming to the US” – Is this a new video game like GTA, because that’s the only way people will ever be rioting in the US.
Of course, it could be as big as the riots over stolen elections, or all those riots over the war, or being ripped off for more than $one trillion…
By the time people in the US are able to think about rioting, they’ll have to wait until morning, when the proper authorities let them out of their little tv-equipped cells, but then they’ll just talk about “entertainment tonight”, or “american idol”.
As if.
December 15th, 2008 at 12:33 pm
No…….there will be no Greek style riots in the U.S. We still have a second amendment, any riots here will be DEADLY serious. And there will be NO constitutional convention that does away with the second amendment. That would trigger DEADLY riots.
December 15th, 2008 at 12:45 pm
Americans are so fucking shitass lazy and stupid and fat, they can’t even figure out how to fucking tie their own shoes without government help.
But don’t you whiney little fucks worry. Soon the draft boards will be opening up and you can take it to the streets in Iran and Pakistan.
Lazy fucks.
December 15th, 2008 at 12:48 pm
GSor – U”se strikes, boycotts and non-cooperation. This is where the true power lies.”
“Don’t shop at Walmart for a week or at least organize no shop days there. Boycott McDonalds. Don’t buy big brand Pharma by purchasing no name brands. Don’t drink Coke. Boycott named fuel companies. Produce name and shame lists.”
Spot on – this is exactly what we need to do.
December 15th, 2008 at 12:55 pm
Anybody see the Constitution Free Zone Map?
Must be a reason for that. “They” may start their killing fields in these spots first.
Do something “they” wouldn’t suspect. Never under estimate the element of surprise.
While people are rioting and “they” are focused on those cities…Well….plan accordingly.
Death to the New World Order!
December 15th, 2008 at 1:01 pm
people will riot violently in the states…. even if it has to be STAGED.
[ rent a crowd/dupes/and or provocateurs..]
i mean , what IS the point of having troops stationed domestically to quell violence and civil unrest if there is no civil unrest PLANNED?
I think that the entire dynamic was explained very succinctly by the spin doctor in the movie Wag The Dog:
Conrad ‘Connie’ Brean: [on serving ones country and war.]
” Well, I have, too. Would you do it again…? Isn’t that why you’re here? I guess so. And if you go to war again, who is it going to be against?
Your “ability to fight a Two-ocean War” against who? Sweden and Togo? Who you sitting here to Go To War Against? That time has passed. It’s passed. It’s over.
The war of the future is nuclear terrorism. It is and it will be against a small group of dissidents who, unbeknownst, perhaps, to their own governments, have blah blah blah.
And to go to that war, you’ve got to be prepared. You have to be alert, and the public has to be alert. Cause that is the war of the future, and if you’re not gearing up, to fight that war, eventually the axe will fall. And you’re gonna be out in the street.
And you can call this a “drill,” or you can call it “job security,” or you can call it anything you like. But I got one for you: you said, “Go to war to protect YOUR Way of Life,”
well, Chuck, this is YOUR way of life. Isn’t it? And if there ain’t no war, then you, my friend, can go home and prematurely take up golf. Because there ain’t no war but ours. “
December 15th, 2008 at 1:05 pm
I don’t ordinarily want to agree with terms like “lazy fucks” but I gotta tell ya, I do here. We didn’t give a shit when our elections were stolen, or we went to war on lies, or that they let the people in New Orleans drown to death, we didn’t care when the wire tapped us, or burned us alive on 9/11. We are lazy fucks and personally, I think the military is trying to incite violence so we can be incarcerated for no fucking reason. What then?
December 15th, 2008 at 1:08 pm
Half a million people have lost their jobs – that is the official story that 6% people are without jobs. Perhaps it is 12% one million people. People in the US do not riot, they become drug addicts and sleep in filthy alleys. More and more drugs will be supplied to the people as increasing number of people will lose their jobs. Whosoever invented ‘no one is indispensible’ meant that no one has a right to have to keep a job. The more drug addicts and many will die of drug overdose. There won’t be rioting in the streets, because everyone will be too drugged to think straight or understand why he or she has to riot.
When students rioted against the Vietnam war, the US armed forces gunned them down. About gunning down. When New Orleans was flooded as a result of Hurricane Katrina, starving people raided supermarkets, instead of supplying them food and other relief the government decided to kill them. Instead of managing a disaster, the only answer is shoot first, human life means nothing at all. In other parts of the world any flood hit area, food supplies are sent and shelter is provided but not so in the USA. So if there really are riots, which is highly unlikely, rioters will be massacred. The status quo will remain the rich will get richer and the poor will be keep on suffering.
Privatised jails will have new prisoners and will charge the government a great deal of money to imprison everyone who dare stand up against the government.
December 15th, 2008 at 1:13 pm
This post is about the spreading riots in Greece. Not about the Torah (first five Books of the Old Covenant). Jews are not Israelites either. Nor is Christianity based on the filthy jewish Talmud. To claim otherwise is having your head up your ass looking for some sort of light. The Torah was written ONLY for the sons of Jacob, not for any other people. That excludes mamzirs, Hottentots and their close relatives the jews. Now, back to the real topic at hand, the Greek riots.
December 15th, 2008 at 1:13 pm
During WWII, if resistance fighters managed to shoot down a German soldier or collaborator, the Nazis just randomly arrested some 20-50 persons and put them against the wall to be shot. Do not expect reason or mercy from these kinds of fanatical regimes. They won’t use water cannons or batons to hit you over the head.
Besides, if you managed to organize and remove the criminals by violent means, then these would only be replaced by new warlords who obtained power during the revolt. The whole of human history has seen continuous wars and violence. It has never brought a paradise or Utopian state. Making people aware about the wrongs in society and refusing to help maintain the despised system are imho much more effective.
What would a dictator do when no one is willing to fight for him???
December 15th, 2008 at 1:21 pm
a lot of tough talk here.
but i doubt all the gun owners will raise a finger before it is totally too late.
and for the God haters i would love to see you praying to the altar of your own self righteousness as they are taking your life and you know it is the end…
December 15th, 2008 at 1:23 pm
Cheney’s friends at Halliburton have got all kinds of camps ready, all over America.
Lots of room for you blind little sheeps.
December 15th, 2008 at 1:25 pm
Very pertinent offering on Rense today.
http://www.rense.com/general84/oneperson.htm
December 15th, 2008 at 1:38 pm
If you going to use violence on the street like Greece, you just fall right into the hand of the elite’e plan. There will be an agent provacatuer incite violence in the name of fighting freedom. I pray to God that the plan of the wicked is stopped.
December 15th, 2008 at 1:46 pm
Things are coming to a head. It reminds me of the Geraldo Rivera show where the blacks and the KKK were on the show. Anger and tension was brewing and finally somebody threw the chair and all hell broke loose. Even the host was bloodied up.
Eventually somebody is going to “throw the chair” and all hell is going to break loose. It’s just a matter of time and ulitmately it will be when the dollar crashes completely and hyper-inflation sets in.
“Throw the chair” day is just around the corner. Brace yourselfs.
December 15th, 2008 at 1:48 pm
Where does this come from..”breakup of the United States was possible, the secessionist movement was strong” since he is using past tense is he talking about 1859 or the present. Where do these nuts come up with this? The only thing about this article that has any logic or reason is the last half of the last sentence. The bailouts are robbery
December 15th, 2008 at 2:08 pm
All of you talk a big game. Complain. Fret. Fearmonger. Remind yourself and everyone else how evil this country is. Blah Blah Blah… If this is soooooooooooo bad then why don’t you all do something to improve the situation… You talk about sheeple. Aren’t you all just sheep in another pin? While you are talking about the prison this gov’t is putting around you, you don’t realize the one your building around yourself.
December 15th, 2008 at 2:14 pm
To me it looks like a quite revolution has already started. The bombing of a Wells Fargo Bank and the killing of two thugs in blue is a nice start in Oregon is not a bad start.
December 15th, 2008 at 2:28 pm
people need to understand and get over the fact that the democrats
are as guilty as the republicans, and both must be kicked out of power if
this country has even a slight chance of survival
get your heads out of the sand
and admit what you see going on before your eyes
December 15th, 2008 at 2:33 pm
I STRONGLY CONCUR WITH YOU GERALD. I HAVE BEEN UNUSUALLY BUSY PREPARING FOR THIS APOCOLYPSE.
December 15th, 2008 at 2:35 pm
SPLENDID, I AM PREPARING MY MICROCHIP IMPLANTS FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO CHOOSE TO BE ABLE TO PURCHASE FOOD AND GASOLINE.
December 15th, 2008 at 2:48 pm
Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution states that Congress shall have the power to coin (create) money and regulate the value thereof.
Today however, the Fed, which is a privately owned company, controls and profits by printing money through the Treasury, and regulating its value.
The Fed began with approximately 300 people or banks that became owners (stockholders purchasing stock at $100 per share – the stock is not publicly traded) in the Federal Reserve Banking System. They make up an international banking cartel of wealth beyond comparison (Reference 1, 14).
The Fed banking system collects billions of dollars (Reference 8, 17) in interest annually and distributes the profits to its shareholders. The Congress illegally gave the Fed the right to print money (through the Treasury) at no interest to the Fed.
The Fed creates money from nothing, and loans it back to us through banks, and charges interest on our currency. The Fed also buys Government debt with money printed on a printing press and charges U.S. taxpayers interest. Many Congressmen and Presidents say this is fraud (Reference 1,2,3,5,17). DOWN WITH THE FED AND POLITICIANS.
December 15th, 2008 at 2:51 pm
Interment camps and troops and mercenaries coming here?
That folks is why we (thankfully still) have the 2nd amendment.
December 15th, 2008 at 3:09 pm
We need a 3-5 million person march on the White House. Any one want to get it started?
December 15th, 2008 at 3:19 pm
now i know a little about what is going on, what should i do now
December 15th, 2008 at 3:23 pm
the human race is doomed to failure. Nobody looks at the big picture.
people just want to hold on to things that keep us seperate and we wonder why
we have so many problems. But hell, what do I know.
December 15th, 2008 at 3:31 pm
Kevin….instead of asking….why not be the one who gets it started….thats the problem here, nobody wants to start, they all wait for someone else….
December 15th, 2008 at 3:32 pm
Looks like we can finally use those dozens of internment camps lying vacant in the US. If this forecast comes true, we are only one step closer to a New World Order.
December 15th, 2008 at 3:35 pm
Never Give Them The War They’ve Been Gaming For
Since the Reagan Era, active duty military personel have signed pledges agreeing to turn their weapons on American citizens, once they’ve been properly renamed; traitors, terrorists ect. Direct conflict favors them for they have superior weapons, numbers and complete control over the media, both “right” and “left”, not to mention all 501-3(c) religious groups.
The answer is not to rely on 4th generation warfare alone, as you will quickly be tarred by both Fox News and the Bill Maher types along with all the rest of the Mockingbird Squawk. Why paint a bulls-eye on your back for them? Why not let some appear to go along?
Consider “Shadow Warfare” and “Mayfly Ops” . A Shadow Warrior would keep his job in Civil Service, such as at the Pentagon or in the National Guard. More can be acomplished from within than from without. From a strategic “slipping of a digit” here, a telegraphing of a raid there, to the misplacement of critical parts and supplies at the most in-opportune time could do more damage than an angry mob with a firebomb could ever hope to achieve. A Mayfly Op, for when direct action is called for, is in simple terms, a group of people who come together, unknown and unnamed, to do an action only to fade back into the shadows.
Remember, they need order, we don’t. Chaos is always cheaper and you can make it in your kitchen. Remember to fight for a cause and not a group, you are harder to catch when you have no-one to report to. Don’t forget, that all the media shilled “domestic terror groups” have all turned out be formed and lead by the informants. Can you say CoIntelPro? So, when someone you don’t know wants you join a violent group, be cautious, and remember them for the bon-fire.
Not everyone on their side or on the side of apathy will remain so unto death. Spread doubt. “If they can’t hold Bagdad, how will they ever hold Baltimore? Or Tupelo, Mississippi, for that matter.” IEDs, robots with guns, digital mayhem all favor freedom. But most of all, have patience. Victory will not come overnight nor can it come in part. It must be total and without reprieve. Let them die in their sin. There will be NO FORGIVENESS. May they rue the day this war began.
The most powerful advantage of Shadow War: How will they ever know when it ends?
Tell No-one You’re At War!
December 15th, 2008 at 3:35 pm
Good! You’re either with us or your with the elite…Bring ‘em on. We’ll smoke ‘em out!
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December 15th, 2008 at 3:41 pm
Paul, please stop referring to alll the response to the killing of Alexis Grigoropoulos as “riots”. The knee-jerk radlibs and the provocoteurs constitute only 1 out of 100 individuals who have taken part in the rallies and demonstrations, most of which are non-violent and serious.
Celente is right, though, that the 15-year-old student’s killing was only the “spark” in Greece. It was probably an unfortunate accident, and a similar accident may bring the seething discontent here in the U.S. to the surface.
It is critically important that serious and knowledgeable people learn how to organize an EFFECTIVE response to police/military excesses and how to intervene with rational political guidance when masses of the citizenry are compelled into motion. In Greece, this has meant a general strike, informational rallies, and co-ordinated mass demonstrations of a peaceful, but spirited, nature focussed on the real economic abuses and the governmental corruption. There are lessons to be learned from the various ways that Greek labor and political organizations respond to the crisis. See my posts on the Forum at “Havoc in cities across Greece”.
December 15th, 2008 at 3:45 pm
To #18 & #20. Dying at the hands of the NWO/satan is NOTHING compared to what comes after: facing God Almighty without Jesus. THEN your problems start, for ETERNITY. See what rich (#13) says, last para. These are prophecies that WILL come to pass, meaning that the Bible – Jesus Christ – is true, and means when are YOU going to accept Christ as your Savior, or else you will have no excuse.
Jesus is more concerned about your life AFTER death than before it. satan wants you to fight and kill each other. Don’t fall for it. Despite all the persecutions of Christians for nearly 2000 years, Christianity STILL exists, and rulers (and empires) have come and gone.
P.S. I am not a bush (nor Obama) supporter.
December 15th, 2008 at 4:01 pm
It’s not all that hard to predict when they are doing everything in their power to get us to throw the first punch…up to and including spending countless hours showing us other countries rioting. They are poking at a dead pig here. The only way to force this country to it’s feet is to cancel the fuckin’ playoffs. It seems as though the apathy here is beginning to piss them off too.
December 15th, 2008 at 4:03 pm
1st you have to be suicidal…
Then you get HIGH on drugs…
Then you go up to the BANKSTER paid police and
give them a fruit basket
The basket is full of HIGH EXPLOSIVES
One dead & Deft police department
December 15th, 2008 at 4:21 pm
DO NOT RIOT!
It will only give the government thugs a reason to lock you up.
You don’t need to riot.
Just stop using their money.
If you’re fed up with being treated like a subhuman herd animal, stop acting like one. Stop running out to vote in elections like a brainwashed primate, stop listening to the grinning idiots on TV, stop using their money and stop supporting their system.
If we stop using their filthy money, the Federal Reserve System will die and their politicians will go with them.
Don’t fight the system:
Replace it
http://socialviability.com/
December 15th, 2008 at 4:22 pm
The Greek riots a taste of things to come?
LMFAO!
One person is killed in Athens and the whole damn country riots fiercly for weeks.
The U.S. Government kills 3,000 of its own citizens and is trying to kill/enslave millions more and, 7 years later, the TRUTHERS are still lingering on the internet, smoking their weed, playing their XBox 360, pacified and afraid to act.
Greeks. Truthers. What a sad comparison.
December 15th, 2008 at 4:32 pm
@ ralph
religons come and go too dude. they just have a longer life span than empires and rulers.
The only way a religion can excists is if society believes in it, period!! What I really find interesting is that you say that “you have to except jesus into your heart or else.” Now tell me why does every other religon say the same thing? Why is yours correct, because it
says so in the book? Why is blind faith better than reason with no proof that your way is the better way?
Sorry, but it sounds like a system of people trying to control other people with fear
on a topic they cannot understand. you say the prophecies will come true, and haven’t yet?
so that is truth to you? that makes absolutly no sense. Plus if god gave us free will than why can’t we make our own future? If the world is ran off of god’s will and plan. than you really
have no choice in anything and that is not free will. It also makes no sense and is a huge
contridiction. So really don’t get defensive, I just have alot of questions, If I could get solid answers that would be cool.
December 15th, 2008 at 4:34 pm
there are still 300000000 of us.this would provide an amzing oppurtunity to take back our constitution.
but once we do we have to get seroius.no longer can the constitution be negotiated.any offical,politician,or policeman who interferes with or tries to limit our bill of rights freedoms in ANY WAY is a traitor and an enemy ot the us citizens and from here on out should be treated as such.
there is nopthing more important than the constitution not money not economy not anything.
but in order to impose this we have to stand together meaning have an attitude that the bill of rights is for everybody,your friends and enemies alike,and if you see a policeman interfering with ouyr enemies rights you rush to his aid.
if enough of us get behind this we can make it happen.see you can nevr stop a politician from writing an unconstitutional law,but you can stop the pigs from enforcing one.
December 15th, 2008 at 4:35 pm
@ socail v.
I like your ideas a lot! its really the only solution, stop supporting the system they use against you. Although we do need get rid of the monetary system in a whole. we have destroy the foundation that corrupts.
December 15th, 2008 at 5:03 pm
Cairo,
I am more than willing to give you solid answers to any question you have.
To answer just a few of the ones you had:
1) There is no free will (Romans 9,10, 8:28,29 Eph 1 I have many more) it is all done for the Glory of the King of kings.
2) The world is not run off of God’s will and plan it is the result of 1000’s of years of man’s own desires. Ever since the garden of Eden it has been about men and the evil desires he has had taking God out of the picture.
3) Most importantly: the Book has proven istelf over and over. I have heard many times that the bible is only filled with self fulfillling prophecies but I also gave the example of the city of Tyre, Ezekiel prophecied that the city would be destroyed and never be rebuilt. It was, in fact, destroyed and I believe even Alexnder the Great tried along with many others to rebuild the city and it remains non-existent.
My question to all the truthers (of which I am proud to be a part of) is, if God does not exist than why do the ‘elite’ believe so much in the ‘other side’? They believe in Molech and Baal these are the exact same gods that the Israelites were fighting and wiping out 6000 years ago. How then is this possible? The fact that there are two sides here. One side who is trying to kill the populace, poison us take our money and much more and these persons believe in Molech. Molech is again, basically the opposite of Jesus. Because it was the people who believe in God/Jesus who were throughout history fighting against those who bowed the knee to Baal and Molech.
You see, the bible has proven itself over 6000 years with hundreds and thousand of prophecies, not one of which that has been proven false. Unlike those who (on this site even) believe they are part of the remenant…theirs is a false prophet who actually claimed himself if his prophecies did not come true he woulf declare that he was not a prophet…this did not happen. His prophecies did not come true and yet he just made more and stopped talking about the prophecies he missed. I learned this from one of his own who said he believed in this idiot and then the prophecy he said did not come true but yet he did not step down.
The Bible has yet to fail in a prophetic manner. It is what states that Jesus is the only way.
I look forward to more of your quesions!
December 15th, 2008 at 5:18 pm
Top TEN favorite riot songs?
Im just saying…
Might want this in your IPOD, as you smash a police car…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIxTJMi2FBY
December 15th, 2008 at 5:46 pm
I will die on my feet. What’s the matter with you? Do you want to live forever?
December 15th, 2008 at 5:59 pm
# 13 Rich. Thank you for heeding His Spirit and warnng the world of what is to come. May the Good Lord bless you and keep you. I have been to your website that you provided. You are a blessing.
December 15th, 2008 at 6:10 pm
Your either with the people and there fight to restore the republic and sound money or you are with the terrorist! Our government!
December 15th, 2008 at 6:15 pm
WHAT DOES KBR MEAN STAND FOR
December 15th, 2008 at 6:29 pm
WHAT DOES K STAND FOR AND WHAT DOES B STAND FOR AND R I DONT KNOW I JUST FOUND OUT WHAT IS GOING ON SOMEONE LET ME KNOW CUZ IM CONFUSSED ABOUT EVERYTHING I JUST FOUND OUT YESTERDAY???????? WHAT IS CONFUSSED
December 15th, 2008 at 6:49 pm
It takes one to know one.
December 15th, 2008 at 6:57 pm
Cairo, God did give you a free will, but it’s a restricted free will, and essentially and most
importantly means you have the freedom to accept Christ as your Savior, or reject Him. Note He doesn’t FORCE you to accept Him; many have not accepted Him, unfortunately.
Other peoples’ wills also come into it, like criminals who want to steal, murder and destroy, and that’s why we have the problems we do: everybody wants to do their own thing, often resulting in someone else’s loss. Result? Wars and crime etc.
Consider the satanists, those are the ones people should get angry with – or rather satan – for those are doing the evil deeds that their master wants, but only for a time. I’m sure you’ve come across heavy metal groups. Who do they hate the most? Jesus Christ, because THEY know He’s real, and they hate Him, because Jesus has power over their souls, that is the power to have them thrown into hell.
Your choice is simple: accept Christ as your Savior. However, no one is going to force you to do so. In fact, it can’t be done by force, it has to be of your own free will.
You only have 2 choices: accept Christ, or reject Him. The latter choice is the default, and satan will have won, unless you change. If you choose Jesus, you will be eternally grateful. There is no better advice I can give anyone than that.
December 15th, 2008 at 7:07 pm
Kellog, Brown and Root. Dick Cheney’s old company. Do a google on it and start reading while you still have the internet.
December 15th, 2008 at 7:09 pm
@ bible act1
first off thanks for your time I do apperiate it! so thank you. I’ll try not
to be offensive.
Well the first two lines you have up there totally contridict eachother. you say there is no
free will ,that we do it for the glory of god. Then you say everything has been ran by mans
evil desire not gods will. so what you are saying is we chase our evil desires for the glory of god? that makes absolutly no sense whats so ever. Free will does excist and we can make
choices and desicions in our daily lives and we can either destroy ourselves by being ignorant and buying into the idea that we are destined to. Or we can look at the big picture
and understand the roots to our problems.
For the rest of your page. Every religion says that they have the proof, they all do
and its fact. They all have propheices that they believe have came true and will come true.
they are all very simular. You still did not answer my question, what makes yours the right one? the fact of the matter is there is no proof that makes one religon more believible
than the other. There all the same and achieve the same goal in the end, controlling
masses of people with fear.
December 15th, 2008 at 7:09 pm
Ralph,
Here’s another analogy,
satans biggest trick has been to convince man that he doesn’t exist…
INFERNO
December 15th, 2008 at 7:28 pm
Cairo,
Not offensive at all.
First, I don’t know how I contradicted myself. I will try again for your benifit. We have no free will as far as heaven, it has all been pre-destined before the foundations of the earth. This in itself gives God Glory. If you serve a God (not you but just an example) who is up in heaven saying Please, please except me as your Savior…then you do not serve a very powerful God. You see we have free will as far as chices to make everyday but this does not mean our free will has anything to do with eternity. God has made that choice. Romans 9 said “He (God) loved Jacob and hated Esau”. Then it goes on to talk about vessels of wrath prepared beforehand for destruction and vessels of mercy. It may seem contradictory but all the good we can muster is “As filthy rags” to an Holy God. So our ‘good works’ do not ammount to free will. everyone can make the choice to get up in the morning or not get up…this is not what I call free will. The choice of who will inherit heaven, this is free will and it has been perdestined before the foundations of the world according to Scripture.
To your second point. You state that every religion has prophecies and such…my wife is a converted Mormon and they have ‘prophecies’. Please give me one of those that have come true. Now, mormons will say that Joseph Smith said the US constitution will fall but this is like saying that all throughout history every kingdom has eventually fallen. So J Smioth is a prophet because he stated something that was true of every other nation on the face of the earth? Please find me a clear cut prophecy like the Jews will be scattered accross the entire globe and then one day they will be brought back to their own land by the Hand of God (happened in 1948). this not only came true but has never happened to any other group or peoples in the history of our world. Find me one prophecy this specific from the Buddist, Jehova’s Witnesses, from the Arabs…anyone. Give me one and we can go from there.
December 15th, 2008 at 8:01 pm
@ Bible Act I
John 8:44 ( Jesus arguing with Jews)
December 15th, 2008 at 8:07 pm
Cairo 131 Bible Act I says….
YOU WROTE: “Please find me a clear cut prophecy like the Jews will be scattered accross the entire globe and then one day they will be brought back to their own land by the Hand of God (happened in 1948)” You are in error because you read and do not understand. Like a Pharisee that teach for doctrine the commandments of men. CONFESS and REPENT!
Pro 26:5 Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit.
Pro 26:9 [As] a thorn goeth up into the hand of a drunkard, so [is] a parable in the mouth of fools.
Rom 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
Rev 3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
The JEW is no race. Neither are they Israel. For the Son of Man is come, “Only for the lost sheep of Chidren of Israel. The Jew is an imposter of the Synagogue of Satan. And if there is no free will what need is there for a Savior? Yet you are right we must choose whom we shall serve. If you serve Baal, serve Baal..As for me and my house (famiily) we serve Yahuwah
December 15th, 2008 at 8:18 pm
Malachi
These were the Pharasies (religious leaders of the day) not ‘Jews’. Yes, they were Jesw but not what Jesus was getting at. He was chastising them for them for trying to be religious instead of Him, the only Way. “He is the Way, the Truth and the Life, No man cometh to the Father but by Me (Jesus).” There is no way to heaven but by the blood of Jesus.
BTW. This is what is different from all other religions and the truth of the Bible. Religions are good works, doing things to get to heaven. The Truth of the Bible is we do nothing it is all what Jesus has done…I can do nothing of myself to get to heaven. This is why I will praise Him for all eternety, because I did nothing, He chose me before time began.
Another few for those who think we have free will. 2 Tim 1:9 “Who has saved us and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works but according to His own purpose and grace which was given to us in Christ Jesus before time began”
Heb 12:2 …”The author and finisher of our faith:
Acts “He has given to each of us a measure of faith”
Eph 2:8 …”Through faith, that not of ourselves it is the gift of God”
December 15th, 2008 at 8:19 pm
Like I said they all say the same thing about there belief system you do. The fact of the matter is religion is just a perspective on things humans can’t understand. for your own good
and the future of this planet wake up and understand that the only way to true salvation of this planet is with in you, not silly contridicting stories and gods. These religions were created to keep us blind to the truth. that the power is in your soul, within you. you believe
you are something you are not my friend and I hope this conversation can end with that.
If you are interested in finding out about different religous prophecies than I suggest going
on to your google bar and doing the research.
peace and love
December 15th, 2008 at 8:19 pm
Reinhold
What is your point?
December 15th, 2008 at 8:21 pm
I read more and more and I can can definatly back up[ what I say “its
all perspective!” man ohh man
December 15th, 2008 at 8:35 pm
@bable act I and ralph
god is dead
I wrote that on a sheet of paper yesterday SO IT IS WRITTEN
December 15th, 2008 at 8:39 pm
“THERE’S A MOMENT WHEN THE OPERATION OF THE MACHINE BECOMES SO ODIOUS, MAKES YOU SO SICK AT HEART, THAT YOU CAN’T TAKE PART, YOU CAN’T EVEN PASSIVELY TAKE PART, AND YOU’VE GOT TO PUT YOUR BODIES UPON THE GEARS AND UPON THE WHEELS, UPON THE LEVERS, UPON ALL OF THE APPARATUS AND YOU’VE GOT TO MAKE IT STOP! AND YOU’VE GOT TO INDICATE TO THE PEOPLE THAT RUN IT, TO THE PEOPLE THAT OWN IT, THAT UNLESS YOU’RE FREE, THE MACHINE WILL BE PREVENTED FROM WORKING!!”
#1: AMERICAN IS NO LONGER UNITED!!! WE MUST UNITE AND TAKE BACK OUR NATION!
December 15th, 2008 at 8:44 pm
Ralph/Cairo
I have gone to church most of my life. I am 60 years old. What does it mean to accept Christ? More importantly what does it mean to pick up your cross and follow Christ? What does it mean the Truth will set you Free? What is the TRUTH? This is what I have sought. Jesus acted most strongly when it came to the MONEY CHANGERS. For the love of money is the root of all kinds of evil. What is the opposite? Hate money. Read 1 Samuel 8 4-22 “Give us a King. God warned against the slavery that government would impose. Remember this: We won our FREEDOM, The American Revolution before we had a government. If we had as a nation TRUSTED in the creator and not formed a government we would still be FREE today. This is what Jesus came to TEACH, the PERFECT government under GOD. With out money, but people doing for one another out of LOVE. Jesus did NOT pick up a weapon against the enemy and neither will I. The only weapon we can use is the full armor of CHRIST. Arm yourself with the TRUTH.
Render unto Ceasar what belongs to Ceasar, and unto God what belongs to God. This is the FREE choice, to desire the things of this earth, (Money) or the treasures of Heaven. There is no compromise. You cannot serve two masters, (money or God) Try viewing GOD in this light. I pray this is rewarding for you. The slaves came out of Egpyt and immediately went back to worshiping gold. Trusting in Christ means believing what he taught.
December 15th, 2008 at 8:47 pm
A MERE RIOT WILL DO NOTHING!!! AMERICA NEEDS A MODERN REVOLUTION!!!
December 15th, 2008 at 8:57 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dq72lrDRXpM
Trying to reach TOMORROW
Another Day…
December 15th, 2008 at 8:57 pm
Religious nuts are boobs. There is no god; no invisible, almighty, magical sky daddy is controlling anything. When those squads come knocking on your door, no imaginary winged people are going to save you, there is only the hell fantasy you envision of endless suffering and torment, and NOT at the hands of another invisible magical fantasy being. Just men. Get a grip, and rely on YOURSELF. YOU’RE here, god isn’t. Fool.
December 15th, 2008 at 8:59 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dq72lrDRXpM
Im not sure if they done or not
December 15th, 2008 at 9:13 pm
Alpa Chino is the voice of reason. Nevertheless, having the means to defend yourself and your family against thugs of any type or with any dark and nefarious purpose is recommendable. The only nations overtaken by thugs and elitists are the nations who did not believe in getting and maintaining the means by which to thwart their enemies.
December 15th, 2008 at 9:40 pm
orthodox and unorthodox, both must be employed
Sun Tzu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....s&NR=1
December 15th, 2008 at 10:34 pm
All of your points about “religion” are fundamentally flawed. God hates religion. Christianity is about a relationship with our Almighty Living God through Christ Jesus… period.
December 15th, 2008 at 10:53 pm
order out of chaos….
December 15th, 2008 at 11:19 pm
Rioting only empowers them. Organize in small groups and train. If you havent been preparing in the last couple of years you have to now double time. Even a three man triad can be effective. You must convince local politicos to not let mercs gain a foothold in your community. If they are quislings, remove them from office. Prepare a defense for your immediet neighborhood, and muster a force to implement the plan. They cant deal with a continent spanning uprising.
December 15th, 2008 at 11:27 pm
Whatever you guys do. Dont let them take your guns. Youll need those to fight back.
Deej – Australia.
December 15th, 2008 at 11:47 pm
Christ if not a GOD, but a social fighter and deserters does not have a right to worship a man od Truth.
December 15th, 2008 at 11:48 pm
Christ if not a GOD, but a social fighter and deserters does not have a right to worship a man of Truth.
December 16th, 2008 at 12:59 am
Reinhold. Since you don’t respond I must assume you have run out of material. I, on the other hand, have not.
You state basically that the Jews are not God’s chosen people, right? You think they are imposters of sorts and this is why you get the verse from Rev. and take it grossly out of context. If you read Rev. 12:13 you will see that the Bible is, in this passage, talking about, “The woman who brought forth the Man child”. This Man child is no more than the Son of God, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. If you do a little reserch into the geneology of Christ you will see that He came from the seed of Abraham, through the liniage of David, Hezekiah… then to Joseph and Mary, ALL JEWS. If you think these are of the synagogue of Satan you will have quite an awakening one day. So, now that we have this worked out let’s move on in Revalation 12. The Beast (empowered by Satan himself) is “Making war with the remnant of her seed” (this seed being the Son of God). You see the Anti-christ will be trying to kill both Christians (who by the way will not have escaped in any fairytale rapture…we are all going through this brothers and sisters) AND JEWS. Now the verse you took so far out of context may, in fact, be speaking of persons like yoursef. Do you, being a Gentile, believe you are somehow one of God’s chosen people? The only way we are in any way part of His chosen is because we have been grafted into the Olive Tree (Romans 11). We are chosen before the foundation of the world and then grafted into the Olive tree, this however does not make us Jews.
Read Zechariah 12 & 13 and see how it turns out for the Jewish people. You will, I’m sure, be surprised!
I also think it so incredible that those who say the Bible is self fulfilling prophecies are in fact part of that fulfilment. It states in the last days that “They will kill Christians and think they are doing the Lord’s work” and the anti-Christ will hate the Jews and try, as Hitler and many more, to exterminate the Jews from the face of the earth.
I have been on this site for years and have to say I see fulfilment of Scripture even in the truth of the truthers. While we have much truth in our minds we also have much error. I have never seen such an anit-semetic tone and a lot of it is actually very anti-christian. Huh, just like it is prophecies in the scripture.
Again, to those who state that the rulers of the world are using religion to keep us under control, why do they believe in it so much? Why do they do mock sacrifices at the Grove? BTW read the Old Test and look up the word grove and see how they made their sons and daughters “Pass through the fire of Molec’ (child sacrifice). Those who did this back in the OT hated the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob as they do today. They believe in it with all their hearts but they are using the opposite of their religion to control us? Wow how pathetic a concept. To those who believe this I am still after many months of asking the same question asking the same one again. How come they believe in it so much if it just something they are using to ‘control’ us?
If their is a dullard atheist out there who can answer this, by all means get that brain of yours smokin.
December 16th, 2008 at 1:34 am
Banks get biggest blackmail payout in history or they tell the truth about the 9-11 money trail.
December 16th, 2008 at 1:54 am
Bible Act I
Most modern Jews (90%) are not related to the Hebrew Jews of the bible but are in fact Slavs (from South Russia, Gerogia and Ukraine) who converted in the 11th Century.
Moses, who’s symbol was the rams horns, founded his Egyptian based patriarchal religion about 2,000 BC, which coincidentally was the beginning of the age of Aries – rams horn?
Jesus, who’s symbol was the fish, founded his ministry about 2,000 years ago based on love and forgiveness, coincidentally at the beginning of the age of Pisces – a fish, Get it yet?
The next age will be Aquarius, the water carrier…keep watching the skies.
ALL religion is a creation of man. You must understand this, God did not create religion.
December 16th, 2008 at 1:55 am
That woman in the picture forgot she left the baby in the car.
December 16th, 2008 at 2:03 am
Look in your Bible and read about those that call themselves Jews but are not and are building a synagogue to Satan. These are the same people who will erect the ‘abomination’ in Jerusalem.
Many orthodox Jews who know their scripture also know that modern Israel is a blasphemy to the Hebrew religion as only God himself can re-establish Israel, not the U.S. controlled U.N. at the behest of some rich banking families.
Christians that fall in behind modern Israeli theocracy are those that are being deceived by a great lie, which even the very elect will fall for.
December 16th, 2008 at 2:36 am
Revelation 2; vs 8-10: And unto the angel of the church in Smyrna write; these things saith the first and the last, which was dead and is alive. I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan. Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.
December 16th, 2008 at 3:08 am
what’s with all the jew and bible talk on the comments. i thought this was about riots
December 16th, 2008 at 3:33 am
religious Halfwits!!
December 16th, 2008 at 4:11 am
@ 70
Sorry, missed your drooling before. I really don`t like the religious angle too much myself, but I have tried science on you and it didn`t work. As it happens the Torah economy gets the principles right: non-profit finance, everyone a bit of land, trade fairly and demand your income. Why do you need non-profit finance ? That is a scientific argument, and it seems it being logic it is too difficult for the people here and anywhere, so why even bother. Why everyone land ? If you understood economics, you would know. The Torah is law, Constitution. I say: it only has “sacrifices” and a temple because without that, the people wouldn`t be sacrificing animals, but their children to Moloch. You try to get by with what you can. I can`t get you to do science becuase you don`t care, so I give the Torah a chance instead. Someone said before “what would God have us do” and I answer that person. If you prefer science: go understand economics. But I am reasonably sure you don`t want to, because that would be a first, even on this forum.
For profit finance is most profitable with exploitive business dictatorships. Trade must be about effor trading and not power trading, therefor ownership of passive wealth makers must be distributed, such as farm soil. How to do these things in a modern society is not that easy but possible.
And to the lazy swine that said I encourage doing nothing: I am trying to get you to understand economics and have a revolution for many month already, from way before this finance crisis. But nobody cared to do anything. And now you want to go grab your guns when the enemy is done making his traps and camps for you ? You risk marching right in their camps with your puny hunting rifles against their high end stuff, and if you win you don`t even know what kind of society you want either ! You are lost either way, although I still hope you win. If it came to a winnable civil war, then really try to win it. But you need army and police support for that too.
I think people like you think “freedom or death” and that`s not bad, but the lights aren`t yet completely out once dictatorship starts. The very descending of dictatorship without good reason is actually a great reason for people to get very angry. Massive riots are however a reason and a) actually might be a good reason if bad enough and b) might be spun to be such a reason.
I say: wait a little longer until it is apparent the whole dictatorship deal is getting the vast majority angry. Talk to police & military to get them on the good side and if there isn`t chaos you can say “look, it is all nice and orderly, we don`t need good people to be put in these work camps.” From then you are in a better position to start revolution.
If only you had done your homework and moved earlier, it could have gone much better. Now it will be a problem one way or the other.
December 16th, 2008 at 4:23 am
@108
Contradictory statements. Order is not the enemy, only excessive order it the enemy.
December 16th, 2008 at 4:31 am
Ah nothing like religion, one of the original forms of brainwashing and population control.
Keep on praying, I’m sure it’ll get you through the upcoming collapse!
(Meanwhile I’ll be busy ransacking your garage for supplies while you’re hoping for help from on high.)
December 16th, 2008 at 4:40 am
@ #129, Cairo: “Free will”??? That’s Arminianism, a Babylonian, man-centric doctrine. It’s not a doctrine of any Bible I have. As Christ told His disciples, “You have not chosen me, but I have chosen you”. The word “elect” is used more than any other in the New Testament to describe believers. Don’t forget, the Lord told Moses, “I will harden Pharaoh’s heart and he will not let you go.”
December 16th, 2008 at 4:50 am
@ #164: I’m sure there’ll be a fair bit of derisory LOLing when you come face to face with God: “But you don’t exist!!!”
December 16th, 2008 at 5:00 am
The day I start seeing other people’s imaginary friends is the day I decided to finally experiment with LSD.
You can’t prove your god exists, nor can any other religion prove their god exists, so as far as I’m concerned the Flying Spaghetti Monster fully approves of my actions.
December 16th, 2008 at 5:58 am
I must agree there is no god and the bible was written by rednecks who lived in tents and in caves 2500 years ago and didn’t know about things like schools, bar-b-que, cartoons, or toilet paper. There are a lot of comments here about guns too, and ‘revolution.’ History has shown that revolutions or upheavals in societies most often occur under conditions created by endless, aimless war on the one hand and a declining, war-ravaged economy on the other, both of these conditions brought about by a criminal and/or inept government, all of this present now in the US, up until recently a predominantly middle-class country, albeit far rightwing. The time to use your gun, however is NOT when the cop arrives at your front door. One of the commentors was correct, this will bring out tanks and choppers and faceless masked men with tear gas and shields to surround your house. The 1776 Minutemen took to the woods and fields, adopting hit-and-run tactics, bombings, sniping and ambushes. Francis Marion hid in the swamps, attacking isolated, weakly-fortified British positions while he built his strength. In Iraq, until recently, the tactic was to simply walk up to a foreign invader on a sidewalk, slide your pistol muzzle under the lip of his helmet, and fire, not to wait until the foreigner arrived on your doorstep. Isolated madmen waving pistols will quickly end up dead, maimed, or in a FEMA camp. Another commentator is also very right about government moles. Throwing in with total strangers who talk a good game isn’t the smartest idea, many of them will likely be CIA agents provocateurs. Hillary Clinton, for example, ratted out her fellow anti-war Yale students to the CIA. Certainly, massive riots are coming. Save the shotgun for the moment when people (not cops) storm your front door. If you take it out on the street (let’s say for a trip to the place where the supermarket was before it closed) I guarantee it will be taken from you or you will die firing it at whatever group wants it.
December 16th, 2008 at 6:00 am
If some of the most illiterate people on earth with the most illiterate interpretation of their national religion can be accused of pulling off 9/11 and then fending off the occupation of their homelands, just imagine the type of IEDs those of a highly-industrialized nation can build.
December 16th, 2008 at 6:52 am
Boersema you are sadly mistaken. Watch the news now and see how everybody is running out and buying guns and ammo and supplies. Me and my family saw this over a year ago pal. And yes I would gladly die to fight and protect my family and my freedom. Sorry you are a spineless government loving fool.
December 16th, 2008 at 7:13 am
I thought this item was about riots in Greece and the possibility of it coming to the US.
Why the fuck all this BS about jews and christians?
Go to church/synagoge and bore people to death with that crap overthere.
December 16th, 2008 at 7:16 am
Anyone who will ask me for food and shelter and than starts thanking his god when I give it to him, I will shoot personally.
Retarded fools
December 16th, 2008 at 7:51 am
Colorado Patriot: I never said I am against buying guns & ammo,
I said I am in favor of it (go check my site if you like).
You saw this coming 1 year ago, everyone could have seen this
coming 1 century ago. This is how the system works, the system
you call “capitalism” which you then warp into meaning “trade
economy, the opposite of which is marxist plan economy.” Because
of this superficial understanding, you can’t fix your system, and
therefore you could have seen this coming 1 century ago.
Furthermore, if you read my site you would see that it is about
revolution, and where need be the forced overthrow of Government.
I even wrote a book about that, neither anonymous either. Show
me your site and book you wrote about overthrow of government and
the removal of the ruling classes from power and ownership of banks,
land and companies, then we will see who has most spine.
By the way I think you should hide guns. But the focus must first
be on increasing numbers for revolution, especially inside the police
and army. If you have a great strategy and end-design for your country
that people can believe in, it may never have to become a shooting
war. Only a few shots to capture and escort Bush & Co to jail.
One major strategic disadvantage: people don’t appear smart enough
to understand economics. So I guess: good luck in the camps…
If there is one person out to depose all governments in the world
and replace them: it is me. But as such it doesn’t even mean anything,
most people don’t understand that. Sure we’ll do that, but it is
not the essential problem.
December 16th, 2008 at 9:30 am
Why all the talk of shooting cops? Don’t you folks realize you will only be hurting folks like yourself just trying to make a living. Just as in wars you only get to kill the privates, the damn generals are safe behind the lines. The ruling elite will be completely safe “behind the lines”. The riots will however be a great excuse to round up everyone.
Why the hatred of the Jews? Just because some of the ruling elite are Jews? There are far more poverty stricken Jews in the world than rich ones.
Don’t want to believe in a higher power, then what is left to believe in, yourself? If so then to who do you turn when your own body fails you? Yeshua (or Jesus if you prefer) Is the son of God and created this earth. Don’t like christanity? I don’t blame you. Here is some truth http://www.fossilizedcustoms.com/
Really want to change the world? Let someone in while driving. Give someone else the parking space ( walk a block if necessary, you will be healthier). Help a neighbor. Do a good deed.
December 16th, 2008 at 10:09 am
It will only take a few of the GOOD Men & Woman in our Police & Military to put it ALL on the line (I know MANY).
FOLK’S must wake up to the FACT that there all more GOOD than bad in thier ranks and so to the BAD SEED’S in our Ranks REMEMBER this!!
Alot of good Men & Women have paid with their lives to keep this land free from the like’s of what we now face and remember that the Man or Woman standing next to you could very well hold true to the Oath that they have taken and so go ahead and commit acts of unconstitutional aggression against the citizens and you just might get a little surprise from the REAL MEN & WOMEN that serve our land and so to the one’s of honor, I SALUTE you and to the ones that dishonor their Oath, I pity you for when you hold your child, think about the world you are giving to that souls’ future and what you may soon be dying for, like I probably will, (at least my death will be with honor)!
(WILL YOURS)
Sighed,
A VET who cares
The only way to gain Respect is to give it(keep your powder dry & STAND TALL)
December 16th, 2008 at 10:48 am
Ahh, the cretins have awaken.
Again those who refuse to look at Truth.
IF THERE IS NO GOD THEN WHY DO THOSE WHOM YOU FIGHT AGAINST BELIEVE IT SO MUCH????????????
DingleBerry.
You’ve seen Zeitgeist…good for you now try tying a few words together and answer my question.
December 16th, 2008 at 11:27 am
BTW
A little truth for your Zeitgeist garbage. Jesus’ ’sign’ was not the fish. Jesus had no sign. He needs no sign. He also said “You ask for a sign but shall receive no sign because you are a wicked and perverse generation.”
Sounds like Zeitgeist followers to me.
December 16th, 2008 at 11:39 am
I allso need to inform you Folk’s that alot of the Police & Military can’t make waves becase if they did They would most likly be removed and a BAD SEED put in thier place.
It’s a waiting game just like most of you but when the hammer falls it won’t be on our heads but on the CRIMINALS that THINK they are the bosses.
Yes NWO MAKE our day and give the orders to go against our land and our Citizens we dare you FOOL’S(C-130 ROLLIN DOWN THE STRIP/AIR BORN DADDY GOIN TO TAKE A LITTLE TRIP—>WITH THE GEAR & BY OUR OATH FOR YOU NWO)!!!
Yes the we remember our perl harbor and we know who you are now so{your move}
December 16th, 2008 at 11:43 am
Line in the sand
There are a lot of good men in the military, I do believe this but why then did New O happen? Where were all the good ones when it came to beating up old ladies and taking guns from American hands?
December 16th, 2008 at 11:59 am
Well the ones that did that(like the old lady) were the bad seeds.
understand the the REAL MEN of metal that are in the ranks of Special forces are more awake than ever. Out of 20 Men inrank maybe 5 are punks and with the bail out and every thing that is now in the open & sights like this and the info gained has new credibillity.
I can’t say it won’t be a hard road with alot of interm missunderstandings but that we will most likly find out soon enuf
December 16th, 2008 at 12:08 pm
I must add one more thing.
More and more military and Police are waking up by the day so take heart
December 16th, 2008 at 12:55 pm
Come on you brainless wonder Zeitgeist morons.
Put two or three of your heads together and answer my question.
Why, if religion is there to control us, do the ‘elite’ believe in it so? Are they controling themselves with it?
Idiots!
December 16th, 2008 at 1:36 pm
Line in The Sand>>>>>>>> are you serious?? Do you know that for a fact?? Come on man! Give me some real hope!! ARE you serious??
December 16th, 2008 at 1:38 pm
Bible Act I>>>> the elite DON’T follow the Bible. Even satan believes in God, that doesn’t mean he obeys Him.
December 16th, 2008 at 1:59 pm
i can vouch for what Line in the sand is saying. i have personally handed burned copies of alex’s movies to policemen. i have a brother that is a policeman that has assured me that him and the people he works with understand what is going on and are not going to fall for it when obama drops the hammer on the american population. they are not all zombies as i had feared. no matter what though this thing is going to be bloody as hell for us.
December 16th, 2008 at 2:59 pm
No Steinster,
The ‘elite’ believe in their religion which is everything that is against the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. If religion ‘controls’ us then why do the ‘elite’ believe in it so much?????
Come on I know there are a few of you with enough brain cells between a dozen or os of you that you can answer this if you had an answer!
December 16th, 2008 at 3:06 pm
In the Old Test. they sacrificed their sons to the god of Molec, they would make them “Pass through the fire” of Molec, these are the ones who hated the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Now they do mock sacrifices of children to the god of Molec…these are the ones who hate the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. So are they ‘controling’ themselves with religion too???
Dullards activate!
Comon email each other and come up with a plausible answer!
IT CAN’T BE DONE.
December 16th, 2008 at 3:25 pm
The Bible was not written for control but for guidence. If the elite had written it for control why would they say things like: “do not take the mark of the beast,for those that do will not enter into heaven”? in other words, why tell you to not accept their no. one control device the “chip”?? If you never have read the King James translation of the Bible, please do before accepting some twink”s 20 minute CD version debunking a book that has survived more than 2000 years of nit pickings from the pea-nut gallery.
December 16th, 2008 at 3:33 pm
whats the best way to take down the biggest Country in the earth…. from the inside would be the smoothest obama??? muslim God hater
December 16th, 2008 at 6:00 pm
And what was that about being peaceful and civil when dealing with government thugs??? These horrible creatures know nothing about peace and civility, and they will not be too peaceful to any “peaceful” protestors!
Now! Do you still want to grovel, on your knees, for a ‘fair hearing’ or ‘due process’ in ‘our’ courts? Do you still feel civil-disobedience is the ‘ONLY’ way to go? These criminals obviously won’t!
“Stand up and fight like a bear, or die like a beaten dog!”
-#$@%^&@#* !
December 17th, 2008 at 8:11 am
Riots in the streets don’t solve anything, give protesters a bad name and help the government by giving it an excuse to increase repression and advance things in the direction of a police state.
That’s why many times it’s the government itself who is behind them.
http://babelfish.yahoo.com/tra.....=Translate
And that’s why films like “V for Vendetta” (or “H for Hegelian Propaganda”) are produced by the same corporation who’s CEO and such attend Bilderberg meetings.
To talk about Revolution, now that’s another thing.
December 17th, 2008 at 10:06 am
Greece is suffering from the results ofpolitics being introduced to young students years ago under the previous PASOK government. How on earth do you raise a decent human being when you seek to make him or her a politician before you make them a citizen?
December 17th, 2008 at 1:15 pm
The doomsdayer always seem to want to incite fear…..it gives them a cheap feeling of power….
So what people of decision making lelel have been saying this and will confirm it…..right now there is a lot of rumorizing about troops being deployed in the US but no one can confirm that its reality
The seccesionist movement is miniscule, so the fact that its being exaggerated for the purpose of this article discredits the integrity of the rest of the article
December 17th, 2008 at 1:18 pm
I believe this is totally possible. People are fed up with all the bailouts for rich people. Even Madoff is allowed to stay in his $7 million luxury apartment under house arrest. What is up with that? What a joke!
December 17th, 2008 at 5:25 pm
Peter
I agree with you peter. right on. How on earth do you raise a decent human being when you seek to make him or her a politician before you make them a citizen?
December 18th, 2008 at 6:33 pm
Speak the truth. Revolution NOW. People are going to die, that’s okay, people die. Someone needs to start building the guillotines. Let’s flip this shit upside down and create our own world, after, of course we burn theirs down to the ground and cut their head’s off so none of the little vampires can do it all again.
December 20th, 2008 at 10:32 am
Stop paying your taxes, stop paying your notes, your mortgages
These criminals have destroyed the greatest country in the world
stop paying them to do it
December 21st, 2008 at 8:30 am
Celente could be reading my comment of a while ago. I thought the riot would follow Mr. Obama not being elected due to a birth certificate problem but the economy will do fine!
Maybe both!!
December 22nd, 2008 at 10:53 pm
#191,
And that’s why films like “V for Vendetta” (or “H for Hegelian Propaganda”) are produced by the same corporation who’s CEO and such attend Bilderberg meetings.
Good point, divide and create differences so these same people are distracted and don’t look toward the real problems (i.e. the Bilderberg friends group)
There are no republicans or democrats, no right or left, no communists or democratically elected officials, there are simply have’s and have not’s.
Welcome to the grand illusion.
January 6th, 2009 at 10:26 am
Grinch, the Jew, stole Your future
February 18th, 2009 at 8:40 pm
Today started out with sleet on my car when I looked out the window. Then it snowed, nice big fluffy snowflakes too. The rest of the day it drizzled rain. The Dow settled at 7,555.63 and the S & P ended at 788.42. Gold is near a thousand an ounce and oil is below $35 a barrel. Are you going to be out in the streets rioting? When? Are the banks going to close their doors and all investments lost that aren’t hidden in gold or under the mattress?
Fear overrides our thinking. Think of rafting toward Niagra Falls. The current would take one over the edge to a certain death. Why focus on the descent? The future is not certain except in the minds of men. Health works the same way. The body will follow the mind.
Imagine your new next door neighbors as a young couple who have been waiting to purchase a home of their own and now they can. Interest rates are super low and there are first time buyer programs out there plus the very low price that they paid. How about the new business just down the street that opened and everybody’s eating there now. We are Americans.
We have always persevered. That’s our nature. We are not going to let somebody tell us that we are going down the tubes, killing each other in the streets. We are smarter than that. I know that we are and we’re in this together. I will have no other choice but to bet my life on it. I know that someone else feels the same way. I’d like to hear it.
March 3rd, 2009 at 1:12 pm
Already preparing. Joined the military at 19. Come the rebellion I’m going to massacre a shitload of police officers and Blackwater troopers. The rebellions already in full swing and thanks to laxs security we are in the process of covertly restoring retired military hardware from tank graveyards.
And if you were wondering…yes that was us who set the Texas Governors mansion on fire. It will be the White House next.