Rescue Me star makes revelation during book signing but disagrees with 9/11 truth advocates

Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet.com
Wednesday, December 3, 2008
The hit TV series Rescue Me, a drama about New York City firefighters, is set to feature a 9/11 conspiracy plot in the first ten episodes of the new series, according to the show’s main star Denis Leary.
Leary revealed the details during a book signing in Los Angeles, where he also offered his forthright personal opinion on the collapse of WTC Building 7, a 47-story skyscraper that collapsed into its own footprint on the late afternoon of 9/11 despite not being hit by a plane.
“When asked by a hesitant fan as to whether or not the actor thought there should be a reinvestigation into the events leading up to and surrounding the 9/11 tragedy, Leary’s eyes lit up as he revealed that conspiracy and reinvestigation into 9/11 are, in fact, major plot lines in the first 10 episodes of Rescue Me season 5, set to premiere in April 2009 for a 22-episode run on FX,” reports L.A. Weekly.
But Leary deflected questions about the collapse of Building 7, stating, “You guys don’t want to get into that with me,” adding that he “knew several of the guys who had been there working to hold that building up.”
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Perhaps Leary also knows some of the people who are on tape on 9/11 saying that the building is “about to blow up” too? Perhaps Leary can help explain how a massive skyscraper which had been structurally reinforced can implode within 7 seconds after suffering limited fires across no more than ten floors and in doing so completely defy the laws of physics?
Perhaps Leary’s friends can tell us why the Windsor Building in Madrid burned like a raging inferno for 24 hours yet retained its structural integrity?
The L.A. Weekly failed to report what happened at the end of the conversation. After the question about Building 7, security thugs stepped in, blocked the camera and proceeded to kick the protagonists out of the bookstore. There was no hostility or impoliteness on the part of the 9/11 truthers, but apparently Leary’s security thinks it necessary to physically eject anyone who expresses an opinion different to his.
Watch the clip below.
The real hero in all of this is obviously Daniel Sunjata, who co-stars in Rescue Me. Sunjata has been a vocal advocate for the 9/11 truth movement in questioning 9/11 and he likely had a massive influence on the decision of the script writers to dramatize the issue.
The prevalence of 9/11 truth in a plethora of different mediums is exactly what is required to spread the truth and wake up people who would not necessarily come into contact with this information through the usual channels.
We applaud the staff of Rescue Me for having the fortitude to tackle this vital issue.

Rescue Me star Daniel Sunjata.
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December 3rd, 2008 at 5:31 am
Dennis isn’t a comedian, all his material was stolen from Bill Hicks and re-written to seem like his own work. Dennis is a bitch who doesn’t know ANYONE who tried to “holding building 7 up”. He’s a shit talker.
God bless Daniel Sunjata.
December 3rd, 2008 at 5:37 am
I’ll believe it when I see it. I’m not denying their good intentions but we’ve seen the criminal faction of the government intervene through instruments like operation Mockingbird and the like. If it does see the light of day it will most likely be so watered down or twisted that it will be unrecognizable. Let’s face it. 911 is among other things a massive trauma based mind control initiative. This can be seen by the fact the we are not PERMITTED TO DISCUSS IT apart from parroting the 911 mantra of da terry wrists did it…why does da terry wrists hates us?? Any other dialog is forbidden. Not being free to discuss it publicly without sticking to the lyrics is anathema. Case in point, Leary’s reaction and the security guards cue to act.
December 3rd, 2008 at 5:41 am
Also, if I were there, I would say something like “yes Dennis I do want to get into it with you.” “If you have more convincing evidence than I can present please enlighten me”.
December 3rd, 2008 at 6:02 am
why does anyone care what an MSM troll thinks, do the people think it adds credence to valid questions about an event? denis leary is exactly what people that who want to know the truth should stay away from. does it soothe people to have a celebrity on their side? leary knowingly or unknowingly are the problem with finding the truth, they live in a fantasy world along with the mass of fools that watch the crap they make. seek truth not some camera grabbing toss that is most probably vacant of any real opinion. i question why this crap is on prison planet.
December 3rd, 2008 at 6:17 am
A testimony message posted to George Washington’s Blog
“I am an Air Force veteran. I was serving at Langley AFB, Virginia on Sept. 11. (not to be confused with CIA headquarters at Langley, VA). The “Alert Squadron” of 4 F-16 Falcons also stationed at Langley AFB was scrambled AFTER the “plane” crashed into the Pentagon. Because of my position as a ground equipment mechanic, I had access to the flightline operations that day. My friends were Crew Cheifs and Weapons Loaders, among other professions on the flightline that day. One of my [unusual] duties that day was to drive a Loader (personal friend) along with a rack of live missiles (AIM-9’s and AIM-120’s) across the active runway to the Alert Squadron and drop them off. I was towing equipment to the flightline, so when it was time to go back and pick up the Loader (and our missile trailer) I was unable to do so, but another member of my Flight (a good friend, and later roommate) did go. According to my roommate (and I later confirmed with the Loader) the Loader was completely silent most of the trip back to our side of the base, after they crossed the active, he spoke. “They shot one down.” JJ replied “WHAT?” Loader:”One of those 16’s came back with one less missile than it left with” That was all. As they pulled back in to the squadron area, The loader was whisked away by his commanders for debriefing. I didn’t see him for a few days, but when I did, he said he couldn’t talk about it, but he confirmed that what my roommate had told me was true.
The US Air Force shot down Flight 93. I haven’t told this to many people. I told my parents and other family members shortly after I left the military. They didn’t believe it. I figured no one else would either. I kept my mouth shut. Everyone was dedicated to the president and the country (not really) And anything that went against the Official, media delivered story was viewed as unpatriotic. I knew that I loved this country, so I kept my mouth shut. I just can’t do that anymore. I know that I don’t have any documents to prove it, and I have no way of knowing where the others involved are now days, so I can’t prove anything. All I have is my word. and with God as my witness that is the truth.”
December 3rd, 2008 at 6:50 am
Typical Paul Joseph Watson and truther propaganda, ignorance of physics and science, and misinterpreting quotations without even interviewing the speaker.
Fail
December 3rd, 2008 at 7:01 am
Sir,
I appreciate your courage in telling the real facts about real events. It’s very hard for people to accept what you have shared. Know this, you are not alone in your attempts to bring the bastards down. I get up everyday and do my job. Anymore, I know I did my best each day. I’m not responsible to make them believe anything. I am responsible to God and country to keep showing up. Sounds simple? Sometimes, but then there are those other times that make me wonder. Thanks, John
December 3rd, 2008 at 7:04 am
Mr. Sunjata was standing next to me on the night when alex was arrested at fox news in NYC, [9-9-07]…he was shocked when h.rivera threw us the ‘finger’ and called us ‘f*ckers’
Maybe Mr. Sunjanta had something to do with the new plots for ‘rescue me’
December 3rd, 2008 at 7:09 am
Dennis Leary is a COCK!!! Why is anyone bothered what he thinks he is a shit actor and a shit comedian, he knows fuck all and his whole act was a complete copy of Bill Hicks. Fuck him he knows fuck all!!!
December 3rd, 2008 at 7:16 am
Trtry!!!
Typical Paul Joseph Watson?????
Do you have an opinion or something to add, some enlightening information on the subject. Its a bit to easy to criticise the report without making a point yourself!!
December 3rd, 2008 at 7:18 am
yeah, well, it’s Hollywood. I wouldn’t expect it to be a real hard-hitting dose of truth.
December 3rd, 2008 at 7:21 am
Nice try trtry but too many people have woken up to the facts to ever be dissuaded from them with such a pathetic retort. The fact is that it is you folks who are in denial of the physics & science as it is utterly unscientific to assert that limited carbon fires can collapse an entire over-engineered steel framed building & free fall neatly into its own foundation.
December 3rd, 2008 at 7:25 am
That rescue star is in this series for the fucking money.
He does not give a dam one way or the other as long as he get payed for being the STAR.
As for the (holding it up line, how many nen would it take to hold up a 47 story building.
C’mon shiiiitttt!!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 3rd, 2008 at 7:27 am
trtry #6 “truther propaganda, ignorance of physics and science”…
What are you saying #6, that truthers are ignorant of physics? That the twin towers fell via the pancake collpase theory? If so, I’ll go toe-to-toe with you anytime on the science of 911.
Please enlighten us with YOUR theory.
December 3rd, 2008 at 7:30 am
After watching this a couple of times it’s soooooo obvious this guy was caught bluffing a very bad hand and if the truth were to be known, he probably didn’t have a clue to what she was asking him about Building #7… You could see in his face the “Back-flash” and his temperature rise about 20 degrees as he clamored for something to say back…. Which usually comes from where the sun doesn’t shine….
What I find more telling is how “Private Security” feel they have the “RIGHT” to grab at ones camera and then man handle people from the premises that didn’t pose any kind of real THREAT to anyone…. This is what is disturbing, that we are seeing more and more of as each day passes here in Amerikka.. If we had done what Security had done, that is considered an “Assault & Battery”.. For there wasn’t a REAL PHYISICAL THREAT posed by anyone.
December 3rd, 2008 at 7:33 am
Everything Alex has been saying would happen, is coming down all at once. Its grim baby. I think I’m going to start coming to terms with the possibility that this is the end. I mean really the end. Man. If anyone wants to come and visit me at my patriots cave blog you are welcome. Its not all expose NWO yada yada all the time, I have fun stuff too like free stuff, spiritual books you can get for free. contests. remote viewing experiments. Deep space scanner. world-wide prayer chain in case you need help. Its not all serious you dig, because this stuff gets depressing and we need to have fun a little too. Come to the cave and see us. all are welcome. all religions too. here is the link: http://patriotscave.blogspot.com/
December 3rd, 2008 at 7:55 am
“Working to hold that building up”???
How exactly do you do that, Denis ‘I play a firefighter on tv’ Leary? Maybe he thinks steel building collapsing due to fire are a pretty normal occurrence. Maybe in the world of television…
And BTW there was no firefighting in WTC 7.
December 3rd, 2008 at 8:02 am
Well Tim gave the goon the sign to throw them out by standing up. He could handle the heat.
December 3rd, 2008 at 8:19 am
yo, #5… spread the word
December 3rd, 2008 at 8:38 am
The truth of 9/11 has just got to come out and soon, otherwise our whole society is just bullshit. Obama is picking up the ‘war on terror’ ball and he and his new ’security team’ are running with it. I’m so sick of this crap. As most people posting on here know, the evidence is completely OVERWHELMING that 9/11 was an inside job. The crime is still only 7 years old and it MUST be properly investigated as it never was. Then the criminals in the White House, FBI, CIA, CISIS and many other areas who enabled or covered up the attacks of that day can be prosecuted and punished as they should be. A new independant investigation into 9/11 would make the best tip of the spear for a new era of truth in government and the media. Bring it on!
December 3rd, 2008 at 8:39 am
Finally the rest of america will see what really happened.
INVESTIGATE 911
December 3rd, 2008 at 8:41 am
IS ANY ONE ELSE HAVING TROUBLE WITH INFOWARS AND ONLY INFOWARS?
December 3rd, 2008 at 8:42 am
The problem with 911 truth being “mainstreamed” into a TV series is that it thus becomes another part of the massive, on-going indoctrination program. Commercialization equals co-optation; co-optation reduces the real issue to fantasy and deletes the truth: see the building fall, watch a Walmart commercial, see the people die, watch a McDonalds commercial. “Truth: The Movie.” Brought to you in HD by Microsoft. Ugh.
So, I’m not sure this is a victory for truth, but it will be a victory for the sponsors.
Another important issue: how does the series turn out? If, in the end, the series obfuscates, rather than educates, the Million Mushy Minds will accept its conclusions as the truth – “I saw it on TV – that makes it real!”
“Reality TV” is the ultimate oxymoron.
December 3rd, 2008 at 8:56 am
I think it is time these discussions – on the discrepancies that seem to have created a wee bit – but not much noise – go to TV where they can be handled like any sitcom – with humour and fun – one must remember NO ONE of consequence was killed on 911. It is our job to huddle together and continue the fite agaisnt terror and if….just if we are strong enough we can defeat the foe as we have with our war on drugs!! Move on for sure
December 3rd, 2008 at 9:10 am
There should be an investigation into 9/11. But presuming that it WAS an inside job, as most commenters here apparently do, does more harm than good to the cause of an independent investigation. The more the conspiracy is put forth as the real truth, the more people balk at it. Try to re-frame this issue, please. There must be an argument that will resonate better than “911 Was an Inside Job.” The problem is that the more you try to force people to confront their cognitive dissonance, the harder they dig in their heels in a bunker mentality against it.
The truth is, there is ample evidence that something was very wrong, many pieces don’t fit the conventional narrative, and we should look into the questions. But, being open to the truth means that each side should be open to having their theories disproven, too. That means that it may not have been an inside job at all; it may have just been a series of horrible coincidences that happened to occur at the same time. But, we’ll never know if people keep presuming one narrative or its opposite in stubborn delineations of their particular camp following, will we?
December 3rd, 2008 at 9:26 am
Forget Rescue Me, a book about Mossad and 9/11 has already been written, (excellent sample chapter on this link):
http://blog.myspace.com/index......=441442669
December 3rd, 2008 at 9:30 am
I am convinced that the majority of Americans are lazy sloth’s that only care about them selves and the boob tube!
It is too bad, however we will get what is coming to us soon!
I have tried to talk to many people who I thought were my friends and had a thinking mind. But I have found out to my dismay that most are hopeless and deserve what is coming!
Don’t come to my house when the poo hits the fan!
December 3rd, 2008 at 9:32 am
I doubt the series is going to implicate the perps. It’s probably going to re affirm the BS story that we were fed.
December 3rd, 2008 at 9:35 am
As Omar K. said, “One thing is certain…this life flies…One thing is certain…the rest is lies!”
Be careful for whom you sacrifice yourself. Do not count on a grateful-Nation.
joeedwardmack.com
December 3rd, 2008 at 9:38 am
maybe what you guys are saying is people saying that 7 is about to “blow up”, could they have meant fall down? is it that big a difference?
December 3rd, 2008 at 9:42 am
AS FOR THIS, I’M PRETTY SURE THIS T.V. SHOW WILL TURN OUT TO BE ONE, A PRETTY BAD SHOW, AND TWO, HYPNOTIC BRAINWASHING PROPAGANDA, IF THEY ACTUALLY DO BUILD UP TO SOME MASSIVE CLIFFHANGER AND SHOCK AMERICA, GREAT, BUT THIS IS TV, GUYS PLEASE DON’T WATCH THIS SHOW, PLEASE DON’T WATCH T.V. AT ALL. IT IS LITERALLY BRAINWASHING YOU. IT ONLY TAKES 30 SECONDS! HAS ANYTHING ON T.V. HELPED THIS MATERIAL, THIS INFOWAR WE DEAL WITH HERE, OR HAS IT BEEN THE PRIMARY REASON IT’S SO STUPIDLY HARD TO CONVINCE ANYONE OF THE TRUTH. IF YOU WATCH T.V YOU HAVE LET THEM CHANGE YOUR BRAIN. YOU HAVE LET THEM CHANGE IT INTO SOMETHING SOMEBODY WANTED, SOMEBODY PAID FOR. IT’S FREE!!! YOU CAN DENY IT BECAUSE IT’S HAPPENED TO YOU. THERE SHOULDN’T BE A WAKE-UP AT ALL, THE FACT THAT THERE IS PROVES T.V. HAS REAL POWER. THERE ARE TOO MANY STUDIES TO LINK, YOU ARE NOT IMMUNE, IT IS A PHYSICAL REACTION. PLEASE DON’T WATCH IT, IF THAT’S A HARD CHOICE ASK YOURSELF WHY, PLEASE LOOK UP T.V BRAINWASHING, T.V. HYPNOTIZE. FOR PEOPLE THAT LIKE TO READ THE REAL STUFF, REAL STUDIES, START WITH T.V. ALPHA WAVES. AS ALEX SAYS, YOU CAN’T MAKE IT UP. IF YOU ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO FIND OUT ABOUT THIS SHOW THEN CHECK IT OUT ONLINE. I CAN PRETTY MUCH GUARANTEE YOUR DISGUST AFTER IT’S ALL SAID AND DONE. IT’S ALSO GOING TO CEMENT IN PEOPLES MIND A CONVICTION ABOUT WHATEVER AGENDA THE SHOW IS PUSHING. LOOK, SOME ARE MORE RESISTANT, BUT IF YOU WANT TO BE IMMUNE, TURN IT OFF. INFO WARRIORS LOOK UP T.V. AND BRAINWAVES, WHEN IT STARTED, HOW DANGEROUS THIS FREE DIGITAL THING IS. PLEASE STOP WATCHING IT. IF YOU DIE TODAY AND GET AN EXTRA YEAR, WOULD T.V., THIS SHOW BE ON YOUR TO-DO LIST.IF YOU CARE, STOP WATCHING AND IF YOU HAVE FRIENDS AND LOVED ONES WHO WATCH THIS SHOW AND ASK OR MENTION IT HIT EM HARD WITH TRUTH. 30 SECONDS PEOPLE. THE PEOPLE CALLED MINDLESS SHEEP WATCHING FOX NEWS ARE OPINIONATED TOO. YOU WATCH IT AND THINK YOUR SEEING THROUGH SOMETHING. STOP WATCHING.
December 3rd, 2008 at 9:43 am
For those of you looking for good material to send to doubters, this is a good site to send them.
http://firefightersfor911truth.org/
Pick a category to the right, to much evidence to ignore.
Latr
December 3rd, 2008 at 9:53 am
Tom opinion 32, I have worked on buildings smaller then #7, say 5 and 6 story office buildings, The amount of steel that goes into the shorter version is amazing, I beams that are 18-24 inches thick and a foot wide, bolted together with 1 inch bolts and welded, all of this put together like a honey comb. There is no way in hell those buildings could have fallen as quickly as they did, from a piddly little fire and a couple of floors. No disrespect intended.
Latr
December 3rd, 2008 at 10:18 am
If the subject was presented as fiction people would probably have an easier time believing it. The event has lead our country to it’s current demise and the crimes cannot be forgiven and shoved under the rug. We have to keep pushing no matter how long it takes to get justice. Until these criminals are punished we won’t in reality have a country.
Can anyone believe that the people we have in Congress are really so stupid that they have no inkling that 9/11 was an inside job. If they are that stupid it’s no wonder the country is in such dire straits.
December 3rd, 2008 at 10:48 am
#19, Pete, makes a great point. It is on the record that there was no firefighting in building 7. So what is Leary talking about when he mentions he personally knows people who were trying to keep that building up?
December 3rd, 2008 at 11:14 am
‘A series of horrible coincidences that happened to occur at the same time’ really mountainaires?
Ok lets examine just some of the coincidences-
Before 9/11 NORAD had 100 percent interception rate
The morning of 9/11 if failed on 75% of the targets.
The Bush and the Bin Laden Families are major shareholders of the Carlyle Group (Major Weapons manufactures).
Marvin Bush, the current president’s youngest brother, became the head of the entire WTC complex security team a year before 9/11. Also calls off bomb sniffing dogs a week prior to 9/11 as well as cutting the power to the entire complex for “renovations” the weekend before 9/11 thus cutting off the energy to all the security cameras that might have picked up n e suspicious activity that might have happened.
PNAC (Project for the New American Century, a neocon document) clearly states, “to promote American global leadership. … A ‘ catalyzing event — like a new Pearl Harbor’—was seen as necessary.
The P.A.T.R.I.O.T. Act which is actually an acronym “Providing Appropriate Tools Required to Intercept and Obstruct Terrorism.” Was written a year b 4 9/11 happened
Troops where also deployed and ready to invade Afghanistan before the “evil doers” ever attacked us.
Several of the hijackers are still alive, FBI refuses to update its list of the supposed suicides. FBI also fails to update its most wanted person list with n e charges of Bin Laden being the master mind behind 9/11 due to lack of sufficient evidence linking him to the event. (Don’t believe me go to their website fbi.gov)
Larry Silverstien becomes the leaseholder of the WTC complex and buys specific insurance for “Terrorist attacks” AND the rights to rebuild the asbestos filled buildings in case of n e thing ever happening to them. Also when interviewed by PBS he mentions a fire chief saying to him that day that they couldn’t contain the fires on building 7 even though there where only small fires on a less than a dozen floors. So they decide to “pull it” (pull it being a term used by demolition experts to bring down buildings). Then we watched the building collapse. Witnesses even claimed to hear explosives, a countdown and numerous policemen/firemen saying ‘that building is going to come down’, not to mention the BBC and CNN reporting future news, building 7’s collapse way before it actually happened. (Keep in mind the building wasn’t hit by an airplane, and every other WTC building that stood right next or in front of the towers, although experiencing way more structural damage than building 7, remained intact.)
Molten metal was underneath WTC 1, 2 and 7 for several weeks after the attacks even though Jet fuel instantly burns on impact, thus not allowing it to heat steel to the melting point. (Only thermite or thermate posses these capabilities.)
The list goes on and on, isn’t it ironic? But, you may be right mountainaires. We shouldn’t say inside job. That might shift the blame from the real culprits. Lets continue saying ‘horrible coincidences’ and stick our heads in the sand until the truth comes out.
December 3rd, 2008 at 11:33 am
It’s just a question of where this fits in in the guide on deception.-
1. Hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil. Regardless of what you know, don’t discuss it — especially if you are a public figure, news anchor, etc. If it’s not reported, it didn’t happen, and you never have to deal with the issues.
2. Become incredulous and indignant. Avoid discussing key issues and instead focus on side issues which can be used show the topic as being critical of some otherwise sacrosanct group or theme. This is also known as the “How dare you!” gambit.
3. Create rumor mongers. Avoid discussing issues by describing all charges, regardless of venue or evidence, as mere rumors and wild accusations. Other derogatory terms mutually exclusive of truth may work as well. This method works especially well with a silent press, because the only way the public can learn of the facts are through such “arguable rumors”. If you can associate the material with the Internet, use this fact to certify it a “wild rumor” which can have no basis in fact.
4. Use a straw man. Find or create a seeming element of your opponent’s argument which you can easily knock down to make yourself look good and the opponent to look bad. Either make up an issue you may safely imply exists based on your interpretation of the opponent/opponent arguments/situation, or select the weakest aspect of the weakest charges. Amplify their significance and destroy them in a way which appears to debunk all the charges, real and fabricated alike, while actually avoiding discussion of the real issues.
5. Sidetrack opponents with name calling and ridicule. This is also known as the primary attack the messenger ploy, though other methods qualify as variants of that approach. Associate opponents with unpopular titles such as “kooks”, “right-wing”, “liberal”, “left-wing”, “terrorists”, “conspiracy buffs”, “radicals”, “militia”, “racists”, “religious fanatics”, “sexual deviates”, and so forth. This makes others shrink from support out of fear of gaining the same label, and you avoid dealing with issues.
6. Hit and Run. In any public forum, make a brief attack of your opponent or the opponent position and then scamper off before an answer can be fielded, or simply ignore any answer. This works extremely well in Internet and letters-to-the-editor environments where a steady stream of new identities can be called upon without having to explain criticism reasoning — simply make an accusation or other attack, never discussing issues, and never answering any subsequent response, for that would dignify the opponent’s viewpoint.
7. Question motives. Twist or amplify any fact which could so taken to imply that the opponent operates out of a hidden personal agenda or other bias. This avoids discussing issues and forces the accuser on the defensive.
8. Invoke authority. Claim for yourself or associate yourself with authority and present your argument with enough “jargon” and “minutiae” to illustrate you are “one who knows”, and simply say it isn’t so without discussing issues or demonstrating concretely why or citing sources.
9. Play Dumb. No matter what evidence or logical argument is offered, avoid discussing issues with denial they have any credibility, make any sense, provide any proof, contain or make a point, have logic, or support a conclusion. Mix well for maximum effect.
10. Associate opponent charges with old news. A derivative of the straw man usually, in any large-scale matter of high visibility, someone will make charges early on which can be or were already easily dealt with. Where it can be foreseen, have your own side raise a straw man issue and have it dealt with early on as part of the initial contingency plans. Subsequent charges, regardless of validity or new ground uncovered, can usually them be associated with the original charge and dismissed as simply being a rehash without need to address current issues — so much the better where the opponent is or was involved with the original source.
11. Establish and rely upon fall-back positions. Using a minor matter or element of the facts, take the “high road” and “confess” with candor that some innocent mistake, in hindsight, was made — but that opponents have seized on the opportunity to blow it all out of proportion and imply greater criminalities which, “just isn’t so.” Others can reinforce this on your behalf, later. Done properly, this can garner sympathy and respect for “coming clean” and “owning up” to your mistakes without addressing more serious issues.
12. Enigmas have no solution. Drawing upon the overall umbrella of events surrounding the crime and the multitude of players and events, paint the entire affair as too complex to solve. This causes those otherwise following the matter to begin to loose interest more quickly without having to address the actual issues.
13. Alice in Wonderland Logic. Avoid discussion of the issues by reasoning backwards with an apparent deductive logic in a way that forbears any actual material fact.
14. Demand complete solutions. Avoid the issues by requiring opponents to solve the crime at hand completely, a ploy which works best for items qualifying for rule 10.
15. Fit the facts to alternate conclusions. This requires creative thinking unless the crime was planned with contingency conclusions in place.
16. Vanishing evidence and witnesses. If it does not exist, it is not fact, and you won’t have to address the issue.
17. Change the subject. Usually in connection with one of the other ploys listed here, find a way to side-track the discussion with abrasive or controversial comments in hopes of turning attention to a new, more manageable topic. This works especially well with companions who can “argue” with you over the new topic and polarize the discussion arena in order to avoid discussing more key issues.
18. Emotionalize, Antagonize, and Goad Opponents. If you can’t do anything else, chide and taunt your opponents and draw them into emotional responses which will tend to make them look foolish and overly motivated, and generally render their material somewhat less coherent. Not only will you avoid discussing the issues in the first instance, but even if their emotional response addresses the issue, you can further avoid the issues by then focusing on how “sensitive they are to criticism”.
19. Ignore proof presented, demand impossible proofs. This is perhaps a variant of the “play dumb” rule. Regardless of what material may be presented by an opponent in public forums, claim the material irrelevant and demand proof that is impossible for the opponent to come by (it may exist, but not be at his disposal, or it may be something which is known to be safely destroyed or withheld, such as a murder weapon). In order to completely avoid discussing issues may require you to categorically deny and be critical of media or books as valid sources, deny that witnesses are acceptable, or even deny that statements made by government or other authorities have any meaning or relevance.
20. False evidence. Whenever possible, introduce new facts or clues designed and manufactured to conflict with opponent presentations as useful tools to neutralize sensitive issues or impede resolution. This works best when the crime was designed with contingencies for the purpose, and the facts cannot be easily separated from the fabrications.
21. Call a Grand Jury, Special Prosecutor, or other empowered investigative body. Subvert the (process) to your benefit and effectively neutralize all sensitive issues without open discussion. Once convened, the evidence and testimony are required to be secret when properly handled. For instance, if you own the prosecuting attorney, it can insure a Grand Jury hears no useful evidence and that the evidence is sealed and unavailable to subsequent investigators. Once a favorable verdict (usually, this technique is applied to find the guilty innocent, but it can also be used to obtain charges when seeking to frame a victim) is achieved, the matter can be considered officially closed.
22. Manufacture a new truth. Create your own expert(s), group(s), author(s), leader(s) or influence existing ones willing to forge new ground via scientific, investigative, or social research or testimony which concludes favorably. In this way, if you must actually address issues, you can do so authoritatively.
23. Create bigger distractions. If the above does not seem to be working to distract from sensitive issues, or to prevent unwanted media coverage of unstoppable events such as trials, create bigger news stories (or treat them as such) to distract the multitudes.
24. Silence critics. If the above methods do not prevail, consider removing opponents from circulation by some definitive solution so that the need to address issues is removed entirely. This can be by their death, arrest and detention, blackmail or destruction of their character by release of blackmail information, or merely by proper intimidation with blackmail or other threats.
25. Vanish. If you are a key holder of secrets or otherwise overly illuminated and you think the heat is getting too hot, to avoid the issues, vacate the kitchen
December 3rd, 2008 at 11:39 am
Without knowing anything about this film I’d say number 2 and number 11 in the guide for starters
December 3rd, 2008 at 11:59 am
“You guys don’t want to get into that with me,…” Actually we do want to get into that with you.
As you know Building 7 was never hit by a plane but somehow managed to collapse which makes no sense. There are a lot of witnesses who tell all kinds of stories. They can’t all be making this stuff up.
I was puzzled for a long time as to exactly how they could break thick I-beam steel but the below helped explain that:
http://911blogger.com/node/12620
Thermite is not an explosive so it’s safe. It burns at up to 16,000 degrees so it’s effective. Safe and effective, and they got what they wanted. They pulled the building.
December 3rd, 2008 at 12:03 pm
Blond guys “don’t believe in it”, eh? (well not all “blonds” are mainstream, fortunately).
In a fascist regime when you ask the wrong questions you are escorted by security out of the house. It’s not like the world of books should be the place where we ask uncomfortable questions, is it…
December 3rd, 2008 at 12:05 pm
And! the overdone, stinking, “self-asured” egotistic tone of this male-bimbo is just nauseating…
yuck!
December 3rd, 2008 at 12:12 pm
Who they gonna get to Play John O’Neill and Thomas Pichard. That is a very important
part of the PLOT.
December 3rd, 2008 at 12:18 pm
That is Thomas J. Pickard quit FBI week before 9/11 and John O’Neill who was onto
the Terrorists and who died a week after getting hired at Ground Zero at the Twins after
getting jerked around by his “fellow” American FBI Superiors and Extreme Know it
Alls.
December 3rd, 2008 at 12:19 pm
It’s sad to see this denial of the laws of physics and common sense so deeply rooted in our society. I wish I could say that the fist episodes of the new seasons of Rescue Me being about a 911 conspiracy and plot will be good, but I feel one of the strogest and typical resistances to 911 truth is that people think that it is unreal becuase “stuff like that only happens in movies” and in this case now, TV shows. The television is the main tool in the brain washing of our society and untill CNN, MSNBC, FOX, etc, etc start telling the truth and the “news” starts doing it’s job, the majority, left and right, will refuse to believe it. Being that the media and “news” is now, more or less, owned by the military industrail complex and corporate elite, it’s not likely they will stand up and do the right thing. I pray and I hope I am wrong, but I am losing hope. In fact in trying to tell people of the facts of 911 on my own, I have met stronger more violent (vocally) opposistion from many who claim to be progressive liberals, the righties just seem to call you nuts and walk away as the lefty’s fight it harder becuase deep down they might just believe it and are cowards. I don’t know. It wieghs heavey on my heart. I hope, wish and want to believe that these episodes will help open minds and not lead to more scepticism of the facts of 911. Thanks.
December 3rd, 2008 at 12:41 pm
How exactly did people he knew attempt to “hold that building up”?! How would you “hold up” a 47 story skyscraper? How do you do that when you aren’t even allowed in there? Is he close personal friends with Magneto of the X-Men comics? Ridiculous.
December 3rd, 2008 at 12:53 pm
It’s simple, we are being fed lies. That is what Hitler did to his people. That is how they get away with murder. By Lying to us. Keep standing up for the TRUTH, and it shall prevail!
December 3rd, 2008 at 12:54 pm
Now if Clinton were an honourable man, and if all things were right in the land of the free home of the brave, Clinton’s words “How dare you!” would finally be appropriate if levelled at the inventors, producers,(even bad) actors, of this farse and added confusion maker!
Obviously anything to corrupt taint and cloud the real, truth!
A Nasty Distraction;Shameless!
December 3rd, 2008 at 12:54 pm
I have one minor qualm with this article. Regarding this sentence:
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“Sunjata has been a vocal advocate for the 9/11 truth movement in questioning 9/11 and he likely had a massive influence on the decision of the script writers to dramatize the issue.”
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Was this statement just written from a gut feeling or is there an article that should be linked that backs up this idea? Sure, he is a 9/11 questioner but wheres the leap from that to the idea that he alone is influencing the writers?
In fact thats a little condescending and assumes 9/11 truth is losing the info battle. Maybe one of the writers already question 9/11 and influenced the other writers. Maybe the writers are all truthers! Probably not, but lets not kick the 9/11 movement down every time its trying to stand up by making assumptions.
December 3rd, 2008 at 1:20 pm
#51 dc_: There is a video of “Rescue Me” star Daniel Sunjata speaking at the 2008 Now Or Never Event in NYC, in which he says that “the reason 9/11 ‘conspiracy theories’ is ending up in the show is because I just won’t shut up about it on set”.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGFTSDLxbqY
December 3rd, 2008 at 2:05 pm
I wouldn’t give up on Leary just yet, I know a poker face when I see one. As you may all already suspect there would be no chance for a show to even air on national television if it were proven to fully support true to life truther’s. If Leary speaks the truth when he says he knows fire fighters that were there on that building and that they were indeed his friends, there is a chance he might have something up his sleeve. On the other hand the whole thing could just be another pot of disinformation as usuall and they were all paid large sums of money and promised mega yachts in Dubai of something.
Lee Waddell
December 3rd, 2008 at 2:06 pm
To Seal:
No indeed he is not, Clinton was “made” when he allowed billions in drugs through the Mena Arkansas airport to help out our beloved CIA. He was responsible for starving 500K women and children in Iraq to death with his embargo. He is one sick puppy! And BTW, it would appear that the perpetrators of 9/11 tried to do it in 1993, but it didn’t work too well. I’m sure they used MUCH more explosives in 2001 to get it to work.
December 3rd, 2008 at 2:07 pm
another little tidbit that would be a good lead up. The USS The Sullivans then The USS
Cole lets see the sailors on the Cole had orders not to shoot. Yet what 9 months
before same Port of Yemen the USS The Sullivans was almost blown up. And those
9/11 puts they still don’t know who made them. Are you kidding? What kind of
dumb asses do we have running things and we have to pay their stupid salaries.
December 3rd, 2008 at 2:07 pm
sorry for the typo,( or something ) like maybe a G5.
December 3rd, 2008 at 2:09 pm
Oh and when will somebody make a movie on the Holomodor. I find it very offensive
that Orthodox Christians being starved to death by Bolshevics and no Movie. Why
not? Something seems very fishy like a cover-up.
December 3rd, 2008 at 2:19 pm
Wow. I wouldn’t be surprised if FX pulls it.. still has about 6 or 7 months to go… Hopefully, they’ll show the entire season and they’re will be more people who’s eyes will open.
December 3rd, 2008 at 2:35 pm
Follow the rules, please.
Fawn, grovel, flatter and pander. But don’t ever ask a serious question that has any sinister implications concerning the overlords. Security is on hand.
Criminals run your society and all you have to do to dissolve their power is to stop using their money. The money is the control mechanism that keeps all of us economically enslaved. When we stop using the currency that they supply to us, the Federal Reserve will dissolve and the politicians they employ will be out of a job.
Don’t fight the system:
Replace it
http://socialviability.com/
December 3rd, 2008 at 2:39 pm
I have no idea how DC can make the “leap” from reading Watson’s comment about Sunjata’s POSSIBLE influence on Rescue Me writers to finding it “condescending”.
Watson was obvious that he was penning his opinion and used the word “likely”. That would qualify as a “gut feeling” as in, it’s likely that my wife fixed dinner since she was in the kitchen before the meal appeared on the table.
Why are so many truthers so touchy?
With that said (and asked) I have to admit that I’ve bit the bait will will be watching. I’ve seen two previous episodes and am not a fan. But their PR move has succeeded in reeling me in for at least a couple of episodes.
December 3rd, 2008 at 2:50 pm
to bad our Leaders are not as brave as our Soldiers.
December 3rd, 2008 at 3:23 pm
We don’t have leaders. They’re all sell outs and they use the soldiers as fodder to further theire careers in criminality and mass murder.
December 3rd, 2008 at 4:03 pm
The more they try and cover up the more obvious the cover up is.
911 is still being broadcasted.
As the saying goes, all news is good news.
911 was completely over the top, even for a HOLLYWOOD movie.
The show had to go on and thats why it was ALLOWED to happen.
The only HOLLYWOOD movie were we will have to keep waiting for the end.
You know. THE BIG TWIST!!!!!!
December 3rd, 2008 at 4:15 pm
Whitehouse still stands in pristine condition.
IT WAS ONE SIMPLE TARGET AND VERY HIGH PROFILE.
It would have had as much or more impact with far less risk.
THINK ON. The elite may think they are smart, but not smart enough to control their EGOS.
December 3rd, 2008 at 4:47 pm
#33 : Not entirely correct. Family Guy, American Dad, The Simpsons and especially South Park have consistently lampooned the offical version of 911.
December 3rd, 2008 at 5:12 pm
The ‘potential problem’ with this sort of thing, is that the TRUTH is fed to the masses via ‘fiction’…so, the masses become programmed to see all of this as fiction…this has happened forever w/in the entertainment and MSM industries…
December 3rd, 2008 at 5:26 pm
And to put Icing on all the Stupidity of the people in the U.S. now, we have elected
a Kenyan who most likely is even an elegal Immigrant by status, Yet we are letting
him move into the White house and run the Country! GOOD NIGHT AMERICA!
Good Morning Sodom and Gomorah and Infanticide like never before!
AMERICA JUDGEMENT IS AT THE DOOR!
December 3rd, 2008 at 7:19 pm
Denis Leary is a jew so I doubt that he is going to expose 911 as a jew job. Until this is done, nothing else matters. See johnalanmartinsonDOTcom or see my blog.
December 3rd, 2008 at 8:18 pm
He’s Irish Catholic!, not that his ethnicity/religion should say anything about his beliefs about 9/11. Is Sujata Indian? Are all Indians 9/11 Truthers?
December 3rd, 2008 at 10:06 pm
Yes it is obvious he is making money off it, why would he care? Denis Leary is a lying piece of shit and he can come and take me up on that. You will remember me you lying sack of shit. Doped up , drugged out, rode hard wetback drunk.
December 3rd, 2008 at 10:21 pm
@ social viability
you are probably the first person on here that I’ve heard that understands that the system is the problem. I believe capitalism is the root to all our problems. its a system that benifits no one including the elitist, they just don’t know it yet.
December 3rd, 2008 at 10:43 pm
NO , we know the real killers wear 5k suits and have pussy jobs on high end platforms, but as viable citizen like folk we are , we try to act liberal about the situation and have little if any funding or corporate backing to further our salient actions. People will sell their own mother out for a buck if it pays the bills and maybe a few vacation homes etc etc etc.
December 3rd, 2008 at 11:00 pm
reading comments on here I can understand why sceptics say ‘you don’t respect the families’!
no-one can prove that his claim to know someone inside building 7 are false, but so many people have made some pretty disgusting comments on here about it.
We’re the public face for the movement and need to act accordingly. S
ome people want the public to accept 9/11 truth but never present it in a way that is acceptable to the public.
December 3rd, 2008 at 11:11 pm
Either your awake or a idiot yuppy slime (sell your stuff on Craigs list) buy food and hide it and guns keep them handy! learn to shoot, they are coming and stop getting involved in this he said ! they think ! maybe they will fix it no no no untill you have your home work done get your fn food and ammo or your dead after your self contained you get others to do the same walk them through it
no fn soldier is going to be raping my girls this makes me crazy pissed
December 3rd, 2008 at 11:11 pm
Denis Leary is an idiot. Steve McQueen was the King of Cool. Leary is the nincompoop of stupid and rude. He’s a twilight zone personality disorder.
December 4th, 2008 at 1:45 am
Tower 7 if you could talk what would you say?
Would you mention Silverstein and his insurance policy?
It seems strange that you came down just like the Twin Towers
Yet no plane crashed into you, help me please understand…
(click my name to hear the song “Tower 7″)
December 4th, 2008 at 2:44 am
I no longer subscribe to mainstream TV, so I won’t be watching this. Whoever posted on #10 is an idiot and should be locked up with the other pedophiles.
December 4th, 2008 at 3:09 am
Was flight 93 meant to hit building W7?
December 4th, 2008 at 3:28 am
73 jtc Says: We’re the public face for the movement and need to act accordingly. S
ome people want the public to accept 9/11 truth but never present it in a way that is acceptable to the public.
JTC. Thats why we need an independent investigation to reveal this murderous crime instigated from wiithin the so called American Government.
I cannot think of a more acceptable way than that. It has to be exsposed from whithin the system. Their is the problem.
December 4th, 2008 at 5:52 am
SOMEONE HACKED MY CODE NAME “C”..i did not write post #10…i did write post # 8.
( if you look at my past post i do not write stuff of such evil nature; someone who is so evil to attack a person[me] that they don’t even know? This is evil; i am innocent and i did not write post # 10)
December 4th, 2008 at 6:07 am
I did write 3 letters to the administation yesteday; after i saw the evil post that was ‘highjacked’ useing my code name “C”…those of you who have read my posts; know that my comments never have profanity in them! [i asked the admin. to remove the post]
(maybe if the members on this board would stop using so much profanity; then the evil hackers will go to another board and do their evil highjacking)
I am a 51 year old father of two young adults and i am married; i have been fighting for the truth for over 30 years…and maybe thats why the evil put a bullseye on me.
[ if they can do this to me...who is next?]…i am the real”C”..and GOD BLESS..my friends!
December 4th, 2008 at 6:24 am
83 “C” Says:
December 4th, 2008 at 6:07 am
Looks like admin are going to have to stop the ability to name copy. That is not difficult to do.
My sympathy C.
If we want this blog to continue some serious thought is needed to clean this blog up.
Comments may take some time to appear when server is under heavy loads.
This message may need to be modified for a terms of use, banning and deleting such vulger thoughts that only have a place in the dark corners of some prison wings and mental institutions. Good day to you C.
December 4th, 2008 at 6:48 am
Denzil #84…thank you so much my friend; you are a real truther. and you agree that some of the post do get vulgar; and we do not need this type of comments/ even on the PP forum the language gets very profane!
Thanks again denzil and God Bless! [from the real "C"]
December 4th, 2008 at 7:16 am
I am not into banning a bit of colourful language.
Hell I get a little heated too at times, but banning/deleting post that have no place in advancing and enriching this blog is fine by me.
People who disagree with truthers is fine by me.
I love running rings around the deluded untill they get dizzy and dose off again. LOL
Some may even be dizzied into WAKE UP MODE!!!
December 4th, 2008 at 7:53 am
Wow , you can use any name you want
December 4th, 2008 at 8:06 am
# 87 IS NOT THE REAL “C” (wow you can use any name you want) NO YOU CAN NOT!
NOW CUT OUT THE EVIL NONSENSE AND STOP USING my “C” code!
PLEASE ADMIN. CAN YOU TRACE THIS HACKER WHO WILL NOT STOP THIS EVIL GAME OF NAME STEELING…thanks from the REAL”C”!
December 4th, 2008 at 8:19 am
TIME FOR LOGIN PASSWORDS.
This blog can be cleaned up.
December 4th, 2008 at 8:35 am
Denzil you are correct once agian. God Blees you my friend!
READ THIS: [fake 'c']; “Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He [you fake 'c'] was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him [you fake'c']. When he [you fake'c'] speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar [you fake 'c'] and the father of it.” (John 8:44)
NOW THE NAME YOU WANT[fake'c'] is from your father the devil..so ask your father for a new name…and i’ll bet your new name is HOT! NOW CUT OUT THE NAME STEELING!
December 4th, 2008 at 8:37 am
“C” TEST
DENZIL TESTING.
If this works it will need to be resolved,
Otherwise whats the point.
December 4th, 2008 at 8:40 am
I will not post again untill this problem is resolved.
PERIOD.
December 4th, 2008 at 8:44 am
Not posting untill this is resolved.
Otherwise what is the point.
December 4th, 2008 at 9:26 am
POST # 91 IS NOT FROM ME [ the real"C"]!
PLEASE ADMIN. WOULD YOU FIND OUT WHO IS DOING THIS!
(i will not post just as denzil…please alex and crew can you track this person)
[i believe this evil person is a plant/cia/gov./black ops. etc...because only hese ones think as evil as what they write]
PLEASE MR. JONES AND ADMIN. PUT A STOP TO THIS!!!!!
December 4th, 2008 at 9:54 am
I’m stating here for the record, that i had a nervous breakdown.
All “C”-related emails are coming from one and the same person, which is me.
I think i will take some break from Alex Jones, it just drives me too insane ;
December 4th, 2008 at 3:18 pm
TO NUMBER 94:
Yo C!
For a more somber but lucid look into what is going on, listen to some Alan Watt. cuttingthroughthematrix.com
It’s easy to get frazzled by the data, but never stop looking for the truth. It will fuck you up, but you can’t ever un-know something.
December 4th, 2008 at 4:33 pm
#39
excellent point of view,thats my favorite way to start talking about 911 with people who are interested about that day,not knowing the facts just the garbage seen on the BOOB tube and paper trash at the stand (anywhere)
talk about all the coincidences that happend that day and all the 1ST time in history stuff..(aviation,steel structure towers/buildings going down,no wreckage/debris or bodies ,black boxes etc,etc..)
you can literally go on for hours about it alone…lol
thats would make for a great documentry alone,from perhaps Icke/Jones/Tsarion or whoever?
December 4th, 2008 at 8:05 pm
No doubt the coming episode will be a cheap BS debunk hitpiece of 911 truth. Why don’t you “Rescue Me” from the bullshit Dennis? Tell your advertisers I won’t tune in.
December 5th, 2008 at 2:28 pm
Denis Leary, what about Wag the Dog (1997)! Did you just do it for the money. Or did your believe in the premise for the movie. Help us out a little. Take a stand! Remember “I’m An Asshole”!
December 5th, 2008 at 3:25 pm
Who edits this? Leary himself? He can try to dish it out in his routines but he can’t take it.
December 5th, 2008 at 5:40 pm
HEY DENIS…TELL US HOW THOUSANDS OF TONS OF HIGH-GRADE STEEL WAS TURNED TO DUST?????….tell us how buildings 30 years older than those 3 didnt fall…..straight down into their own hole…IMPLOSION…INSIDE JOB…..DENIS wont say anything cuz he’s afraid to lose more millions he makes from being a real lousy actor in a bad tv show….YOU KNOW THE TRUTH DENIS
December 5th, 2008 at 6:37 pm
Well I’ve said it once and I’ll say it again … Mr. Leary can come on over and debate ME about it anytime … That is if he isn’t a pussie ….
http://intwain.wordpress.com/2008/11/12/next/
And he’s not a bad of an actor … He said that with a straight face didn’t he??
December 6th, 2008 at 10:14 am
I wish I could hold up a building,- but I think I would atleast have to be ’superman’ to do that!
December 6th, 2008 at 8:33 pm
“AAACTING!! … yeah … that’s the ticket!!”
December 7th, 2008 at 8:39 pm
Don’t edit me, damn it!
I know about Denis. He still wants an ankle bracelet with hearts for Christmas and he runs around in a pink thong when he’s home alone. He can’t spell and he can’t cipher. Naught times naught is naught is all he knows. Dumb as a post and queer as Ellen Degeneres. She’d dominate him.
December 9th, 2008 at 6:58 am
Notice all the immediate pile-on of filthy and denigrating entries, all attacking Leary for his view. I think they doth protest too much… obviously part of the well financed disinformation campaign to drown out the truth and anyone who speaks up. Well financed with our money. We’ve seen it with other prominent people say what they think… hit with a barrage of filth and negativity. It slows down progress but won’t stop it.
This is a group within the Bush-Cheney circle. I’m betting on the 911 perps to do the walk within the next 8 years!!! Check out http://www.whodiditorg.
December 9th, 2008 at 7:01 am
Notice all the immediate pile-on of filthy and denigrating entries, all attacking Leary for his view. I think they doth protest too much… obviously part of the well financed disinformation campaign to drown out the truth and anyone who speaks up. Well financed with our money. We’ve seen it with other prominent people say what they think… hit with a barrage of filth and negativity. It slows down progress but won’t stop it.
This is a group within the Bush-Cheney circle. I’m betting on the 911 perps to do the walk within the next 8 years!!! Check out
December 9th, 2008 at 7:13 am
Catholic bishop mentions 911 Mysteries! and evidence details!
“This is perhaps the most amazing 9/11 video that I have yet seen and I have seen many amazing 9/11 videos. Please spread this video as far and wide as you can before it is “taken down” in some way. This is a Catholic Bishop talking 9/11 Truth to his flock like he was David Ray Griffin. Please review this and pass it on. Thank you Bishop Williamson.”
December 9th, 2008 at 10:22 am
Yeah, just what it needs, Hollywood taking advantage of another event to use it in their plotline to get the ratings of a suspect show. First we had Bush by Stone, now we got Nixon by Howard, all these fucking Hollywood types can go back to your mansions and let the little people take care of what really matters to America. We don’t need your help. AND fuck you Springsteen, we will get our homes back without you too.
January 22nd, 2009 at 6:36 pm
All you 9/11 Conspiracy Theory supporters make me sick. It’s been 8 years now. You don’t think something from the gov’t would have come out by now to support your cause? You guys are the scum of the earth. Sad that the US is inhabited by people like you.