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Holdren Forced To Respond To Controversy Over Totalitarian Population Control Proposals
Science and technology advisor’s response to controversy full of spin, half-truths and outright lies
Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet.com
Wednesday, July 15, 2009
Obama’s top science and technology advisor John P. Holdren has been forced to issue a statement in which he denies advocating the totalitarian population control proposals outlined in his own academic textbook. However, Holdren’s response is a tissue of half-truths, spin and outright lies.
The controversy began this past weekend when fresh attention was given to passages from the 1977 book Ecoscience, which Holdren Co-authored with close colleagues Paul Ehrlich and Anne Ehrlich, leading to accusations that Holdren supported the numerous eugenicist policies outlined in the book.
“This material is from a three-decade-old, three-author college textbook. Dr. Holdren addressed this issue during his confirmation when he said he does not believe that determining optimal population is a proper role of government. Dr. Holdren is not and never has been an advocate for policies of forced sterilization,” reads a statement provided by Holdren’s staff.
A statement from Holdren’s co-authors the Ehrlichs was also released by the White House which read, “Anybody who actually wants to know what we and/or Professor Holdren believe and recommend about these matters would presumably read some of the dozens of publications that we and he separately have produced in more recent times, rather than going back a third of a century to find some formulations in an encyclopedic textbook where description can be misrepresented as endorsement.”
During his confirmation hearing, when asked whether he thought “determining optimal population is a proper role of the government,” Holdren answered, “No, Senator, I do not.”
Is it likely that Holdren’s true feelings towards overpopulation can be extracted from a five word response at a confirmation hearing, or from his own encyclopedic length textbook?
On the one hand we have to weigh the credibility of a one sentence comment at the public sideshow of a confirmation hearing, a spectacle that has become synonymous with the art of lying, deception, and hiding skeletons in the closet, as can be witnessed right now with the Judge Sonia Sotomayor hearings.
On the other hand we have a 1000-plus page book which is littered with proposals centered around forced abortion, numerous different methods of forced sterilization and numerous other proposals describing invasive government control of pregnancy and the life cycle.
Which is likelier to be a true representation of Holdren’s real position on the subject?
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Holdren’s claim that he “never has been an advocate for policies of forced sterilization,” alongside the Ehrlich’s claim that “formulations” in the Ecoscience textbook have been misrepresented as endorsements, is provably an outright lie.
Phrases such as “it has been concluded” are used in the book alongside proposals for forced abortion, such as the passage on page 837 which reads, “Indeed, it has been concluded that compulsory population-control laws, even including laws requiring compulsory abortion, could be sustained under the existing Constitution if the population crisis became sufficiently severe to endanger the society.”
Holdren and the Ehrlich’s do not identify who “it has been concluded” by, leaving the reader in no doubt that “it has been concluded” by the writers themselves that forced abortion should be introduced. This is called “hiding behind the passive voice.” It provides the writers plausible deniability, but only the idiotically naive would deny that it represents anything other than an endorsement of forced abortion and sterilization.
Furthermore, the whole tone of the Ecoscience book is directed against those who would disagree with coercive population control measures. These people are even referred to in a derisory tone as “pro-natalists,” a word invented purely for the purposes of the book. The book does not merely present a neutral stance on “formulations” as is claimed – the endorsement of these proposals is implicit in the fact that opponents of them are scorned throughout the book.
Ecoscience is clearly an endorsement of totalitarian population reduction measures. Anyone who has read the quotes contained in the book in their full context can see that this is manifestly the case. Holdren and the Ehrlichs are presumably counting on the fact that the book is now out of print and that no one will actually read it, because if they did then the entire context of what the book endorses becomes crystal clear.
Furthermore, some of the nightmarish proposals about adding sterilants to the water supply and food that are outlined in Ecoscience are already taking place, with global sperm counts dropping worldwide, partly as a result of the discovery of antiandrogens in rivers and lakes, which are also used in pesticides, and have been found to release “endocrine disruptors” that induce demasculinization in both fish and rats, according to several scientific studies.
It is also somewhat amusing to see that the Ehrlichs are trying to distance themselves from positions they held 30 years ago and attempting to get people to focus only on what they are saying now. I’m sure this has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that Paul Ehrlich’s alarmist predictions about overpopulation which were made in the 1960’s and 70’s have proven to be spectacularly wrong, wrong and wrong again in every instance.
It would be very embarrassing indeed for more people to learn about how Ehrlich predicted that England would not exist by the year 2000, that 4 billion people would starve to death during the 1980’s, and that the average American life span would be 45 years of age by the start of the 21st century, especially that Ehrlich now spews his doomsday threats under the banner of global warming alarmism.
Holdren’s attempt to use the fact that the book is over 30 years old to distance himself from its content is also a deceptive move, because before this controversy arose, Holdren was perfectly happy to conduct a major interview with the Associated Press with the book proudly displayed on his bookshelf in the background. If Holdren has changed his mind about the proposals in the book, or never agreed with those presented by his fellow authors in the first place, then why does he prominently display a copy during this interview? Watch the clip below.
In the video, Holdren talks about “geoengineering,” effectively terraforming the planet by injecting untested aerosols into the upper atmosphere in an apparent attempt to offset “global warming,” with unknown side effects.
This brings to mind another example where Holdren has flip-flopped and apparently changed his mind in an attempt to defuse controversy.
In April, Holdren told the media that talks were already underway within the Obama administration to explore the possibility of geoengineering the planet. However, following a largely negative reaction, Holdren then backpedaled and told the New York Times that administration level talks had not taken place. Days later, Holdren told an Massachusetts Institute of Technology audience that , “Large-scale geoengineering projects designed to cool the Earth could conceivably be done.”
We reprint below quotes from Ecoscience and leave the reader to make their own mind up about whether the book was merely presenting “formulations,” as the Ehrlichs claim, or whether they were de facto endorsements, keeping in mind the fact that opponents of such measures are regularly undermined throughout the whole book.
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Page 786: Single mothers should have their babies taken away by the government; or they could be forced to have abortions
“One way to carry out this disapproval might be to insist that all illegitimate babies be put up for adoption—especially those born to minors, who generally are not capable of caring properly for a child alone. If a single mother really wished to keep her baby, she might be obliged to go through adoption proceedings and demonstrate her ability to support and care for it. Adoption proceedings probably should remain more difficult for single people than for married couples, in recognition of the relative difficulty of raising children alone. It would even be possible to require pregnant single women to marry or have abortions, perhaps as an alternative to placement for adoption, depending on the society.”
Page 787-8: Mass sterilization of humans though drugs in the water supply is OK as long as it doesn’t harm livestock
“Adding a sterilant to drinking water or staple foods is a suggestion that seems to horrify people more than most proposals for involuntary fertility control. Indeed, this would pose some very difficult political, legal, and social questions, to say nothing of the technical problems. No such sterilant exists today, nor does one appear to be under development. To be acceptable, such a substance would have to meet some rather stiff requirements: it must be uniformly effective, despite widely varying doses received by individuals, and despite varying degrees of fertility and sensitivity among individuals; it must be free of dangerous or unpleasant side effects; and it must have no effect on members of the opposite sex, children, old people, pets, or livestock.”
Page 786-7: The government could control women’s reproduction by either sterilizing them or implanting mandatory long-term birth control
Involuntary fertility control
“A program of sterilizing women after their second or third child, despite the relatively greater difficulty of the operation than vasectomy, might be easier to implement than trying to sterilize men.
The development of a long-term sterilizing capsule that could be implanted under the skin and removed when pregnancy is desired opens additional possibilities for coercive fertility control. The capsule could be implanted at puberty and might be removable, with official permission, for a limited number of births.”
Page 838: The kind of people who cause “social deterioration” can be compelled to not have children
“If some individuals contribute to general social deterioration by overproducing children, and if the need is compelling, they can be required by law to exercise reproductive responsibility—just as they can be required to exercise responsibility in their resource-consumption patterns—providing they are not denied equal protection.“
Page 838: Nothing is wrong or illegal about the government dictating family size
“In today’s world, however, the number of children in a family is a matter of profound public concern. The law regulates other highly personal matters. For example, no one may lawfully have more than one spouse at a time. Why should the law not be able to prevent a person from having more than two children?”
Page 942-3: A “Planetary Regime” should control the global economy and dictate by force the number of children allowed to be born
Toward a Planetary Regime
“Perhaps those agencies, combined with UNEP and the United Nations population agencies, might eventually be developed into a Planetary Regime—sort of an international superagency for population, resources, and environment. Such a comprehensive Planetary Regime could control the development, administration, conservation, and distribution of all natural resources, renewable or nonrenewable, at least insofar as international implications exist. Thus the Regime could have the power to control pollution not only in the atmosphere and oceans, but also in such freshwater bodies as rivers and lakes that cross international boundaries or that discharge into the oceans. The Regime might also be a logical central agency for regulating all international trade, perhaps including assistance from DCs to LDCs, and including all food on the international market.”
“The Planetary Regime might be given responsibility for determining the optimum population for the world and for each region and for arbitrating various countries’ shares within their regional limits. Control of population size might remain the responsibility of each government, but the Regime would have some power to enforce the agreed limits.”
Page 917: We will need to surrender national sovereignty to an armed international police force
“If this could be accomplished, security might be provided by an armed international organization, a global analogue of a police force. Many people have recognized this as a goal, but the way to reach it remains obscure in a world where factionalism seems, if anything, to be increasing. The first step necessarily involves partial surrender of sovereignty to an international organization.”
Page 749: Pro-family and pro-birth attitudes are caused by ethnic chauvinism
“Another related issue that seems to encourage a pronatalist attitude in many people is the question of the differential reproduction of social or ethnic groups. Many people seem to be possessed by fear that their group may be outbred by other groups. White Americans and South Africans are worried there will be too many blacks, and vice versa. The Jews in Israel are disturbed by the high birth rates of Israeli Arabs, Protestants are worried about Catholics, and lbos about Hausas. Obviously, if everyone tries to outbreed everyone else, the result will be catastrophe for all. This is another case of the “tragedy of the commons,” wherein the “commons” is the planet Earth. Fortunately, it appears that, at least in the DCs, virtually all groups are exercising reproductive restraint.”
Page 944: As of 1977, we are facing a global overpopulation catastrophe that must be resolved at all costs by the year 2000
“Humanity cannot afford to muddle through the rest of the twentieth century; the risks are too great, and the stakes are too high. This may be the last opportunity to choose our own and our descendants’ destiny. Failing to choose or making the wrong choices may lead to catastrophe. But it must never be forgotten that the right choices could lead to a much better world.”
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July 15th, 2009 at 6:55 am
Does anyone doubt that if the internet didn’t exist,this story would never have happened? The apology would have been unneccesary because most people would never have even known of his textbook. This is an example of the transparancy that the internet is forcing upon a reluctant government and it is through actions such as this that the battle will mostly be won. As long as articles like this, and exposures like this continue, we, the people, have a fighting chance. In fact, one could say we are starting to win now.
Gary S Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 8:06 am
Undoubtedly so. If the net didn’t exist or if they have complete censorship control over the internet, then this would never have seen the light of day. The mainstream media are no longer journalists, they’re whores. Between all of the special interest groups who literally own and control the media, you have the government’s ham handed ways through the FCC and White House press corps who can change the subject if something does leak out.
TRUTHCHECKER Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 9:37 am
HEY!!! That guy who said HAARP hit China? Look at this ShakeMap I just found:
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqc...../2008ryan/
It’s shaped like a rectangle, the exact shape of the HAARP configuration!
Have you ever seen a 7.9 earthquake shaped in a perfect rectangle to match a layout of Billion Watt Microwave transmitters?
I really hope the Chinese don’t join the NWO! Do they really have assassins ready to take on the hydra?
Sui Juris Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 9:45 am
Anyone else put 2 & 2 together here?
Maybe if we controlled our borders we wouldn’t have this overpopulation issue to the extent that we do?
So since Washington can’t enforce immigration codes already on the books for 100 years, we need to pass more codes to stop LAWFUL American citizens from having their own family that just might take care of them some day….
This literally makes me sick. I don’t care if an 11 yr old gets pregnant, IT IS UP TO HER and her family on what to do.
PERIOD.
Bastet777 Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 11:00 am
Sui Juris,
Your correct of course but will only be called a racist for your views here by the flaming bleeding heart, aconine liberals. ALL ILLEGALS SHOULD BE STERILIZED SINCE THEY ARE NOT BEING DEPORTED. IF THEY DON”T LIKE IT THEY CAN GO BACK TO WHENCE THEY CAME>
fguhhn Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 11:43 am
There is no overpopulation problem in the U.S. In all actuality if it was not for illegal immigration in a few decades there would not be enough people of working age for the labor force. The U.S. has a negative birth rate.
revenge of the nerds Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 4:29 pm
Well no, not exactly. These crazy mofo’s want to cull the entire planet, so it has nothing to do with open borders.
The funny thing is, whenever these nerdy twats interfere with nature, it always seems to go catastrophically wrong. They’re fuckin’ clueless!
Astro Chimp Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 8:34 am
Yes sir you are right. peace
AlteredState Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 10:33 am
Stop H.R. 2159 call your congressman/woman before it too late. This is URGENT!!!!
CivilianResistance Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 4:55 pm
ALL ILLEGALS SHOULD BE STERILIZED
Bastet,
No one needs to be sterilized. That would just be condoning what this article is trying voice against. It is not the governments duty to decide who gets to live, die, or have children. However, I do agree we DO need immigration reform. Too many illegals are allowed to operate and do business in the US and not enough enforcement is being supported. Immigration is okay as long as it is regulated. Perhaps create new requisites of citizenship. Such as you cannot be a criminal in your previous state. You can only retain your citizenship in the US if you LEARN english AND pass a test confirming that. Abolish the bullshit rule if your an illegal but their children were born in the US, then that makes everyone a citizen. NO. That is a MASSIVE loophole that needs to be closed up. If your illegal and your kid was born in the US, guess what? Your ALL still illegal! Such rules should be introduced and enforced. Lastly, only so many immigrants should be allowed in the US a year. Once that cap has been reached. Guess what? NO more immigration for that year. But what does my opinion matter? By saying these things makes me a racist and therefore my motives are impure. Its not like my ideas would free up more jobs for the economy and free up welfare money, and overall reduce the congestion in the overall US population.
A Patriot Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 8:52 am
Absolutely Agreed!
Unfortunately – I think – this is why the Internet is Enemy #1 to people like Senator Rockefeller!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ct9xzXUQLuY
We must remain EVER VIGILANT!
used to be proud brit Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 8:59 am
EXCELLENT !!!!!
He is running scared now !
keep up the pressure on this piece of scum !!!
WELL DONE AND THANX TO ALEX AND HIS TEAM FOR ENLIGHTENING ALL OF US TO THESE FACTS
GOOD WORK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ray Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 9:17 am
And this is exactly why they want to shut it down or control it.
revenge of the nerds Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 4:35 pm
I’m not sure it can be done. It must surely be possible these days to set up an independent wireless network. Not that I am an expert, but my neighbour, who knows about this stuff, is of the opinion that it’s possible.
used to be proud brit Reply:
July 16th, 2009 at 2:03 am
Of coarse they can shut down the internet, what if war was started ?
Would you want anyone to be able to contact the enemy through your country’s infrastructure ?
Its like not believing your pc insn`t monitored lol
Every time you go on the internet you go to your main server in my case virgin media they assign an ip
Dont think for 1 min that there not monitoring it , It`s not a guy sitting watching it its software monitoring.
They have got your ip connected to all list what you have looked,wrote,pic`s,sent ,received, your friends your family,your porn ,illegal music downloads
ALL WAITING FOR YOU TO BE FINED FOR!!!! LOL
IM OK I DON’T DO NOTHING ILLEGAL NOR DO MY KIDS BECAUSE I WATCH THEM !!
And even if you think your clever and steal the internet or have a wireless dongle
it will triangulate your position of the property your in .
So if say you have been doing it from the same position for 6 months TRY GETTING out of it.
This is the same for your
cell phone
sat nav
TRUST ME I KNOW !!!!!!!!!!
revenge of the nerds Reply:
July 16th, 2009 at 9:27 am
Actually mate, although I agree that ‘they’ are doing their best to monitor everyone’s movements, there are ways to restrict such an incursion on one’s privacy. For example I don’t use a P.C. but a fairly old Mac, I don’t have a telephone or GSM or GPS. My ISP is an ethical ‘internet only’ company, famous for upholding the privacy of it’s clients, not some huge corporation like Virgin. I have nothing to hide either, but I’d kill to protect my privacy.
My neighbour runs his own IT company, supplying and servicing computers and systems, he knows his stuff. When I told him of Jay Rockefeller’s bill, he told me it would be possible to circumvent it by means of independent networks, I believe him.
used to be proud brit Reply:
July 17th, 2009 at 3:32 am
Believe me m8 we would` nt have this technology if they could not totally monitor it.
The idea that it can be done anon is actually the way the powers that be are using it to collect data on YOU and everyone else .
You can use proxy`s but they still lead a path back to you , at a stroke of a keyboard .
Being anon on a computer is imposable unless say “stolen pc standing outside someone else`s house robbing the internet” .
Being anon on the web is an illusion created so you break the law ,thus incurring fines.
SO SAY IN 10 YEARS TIME YOU GET A LETTER WITH ALL THE COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENTS AND WHAT EVER ELSE YOU MAY HAVE DONE ?
LETS FACE IT I`AM NO BIG BUSINESS MAN BUT I CAN SEE THIS AS A GOOD MONEY SPINNER FOR WHOEVER HAS ALL THE DATA !
JUST SAY YOU OWNED THAT COMPANY
WOULD`NT YOU WANT THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ON THE WEB TO THINK THERE ANON
TO MAXIMISE YOUR LIST ?
As i said before im no big buisnes leaded ,
So IF I CAN THINK OF THIS DONT YOU THINK ITS BEEN DONE ALREADY ?
100% yes
Expat in Poland Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 10:03 am
Indeed!
shocked and awed Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 10:08 am
Hear! Hear! Well said.
CAIRO Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 10:29 am
Jim lunsford
I agree with ya jimbo and I don’t.
I really honestly believe when people really start taking a huge step back,
leaving there bias point of views (what ever that may be to them) behind,
and start looking into why things are the way they are then we will start winning
this battle. It comes down to our state of minds and we just are not there yet.
This goes much deeper than the government. I agree that the internet really is a savior
when come to gettin the info out there. Give what I said some thought!
take er easy bro!
Jim Lunsford Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 11:34 am
Understand Cairo, transparency in our government is key, and the internet is also helping us to become more transparent to ourselves as well by overloading us with information. If you stay on the internet long enough, your ideas will evolve, and you yourself will grow to a great extent. But, the transparency in the government is key to our avoiding a costly war within our own borders. There is, on every site, so much hatred that it is difficult to see how we have progressed. The hatred in many cases comes from the frustrations which are a part of our own internal development. Frustration is often the stage we remain stuck in until we learn how to process all we’ve learned, and then Viola! A paradign shift in ourselves amazes us. At the moment, I remain hopeful. I also remain hopeful that all the bills we are trying to stop actually pass. Why? Because the anger and frustration that would result might force our society into making a choice. A choice we might be able to make without war.
revenge of the nerds Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 5:04 pm
I agree Jim, the first stage is, in my opinion, a combo of revulsion and incredulity, getting past that seems to be the hardest for most people and a lot of them turn back and stick their head in the sand. Second stage, I think, is frustration; you keep reading this stuff, and taking it all in, but feel so helpless. Once you break through that it becomes an obsession, a crusade. This third stage is where we all need to be.
I can only imagine how it must have felt for guys like Alex, Alan Watt, Henk Ruyssenaars, David Icke, Ezra Pound, Eustace Mullins etc, to have been aware of this thing for so much longer. It must have been such an incredibly lonely place that we owe them big time for their courage and stamina in continuing the crusade. The way to pay them back, of course, is to get the message out to as many of the unwitting as possible, as soon as possible.
TRUTHCHECKER Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 10:58 am
http://wakenews.net/FLYER_BAXTER.pdf PASS THIS ON TO EVERYONE!!!
maria jones Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 12:28 pm
http://www.thegrandawakening.com It is time to wake people up in mass. Use this exceptional tool to do it. This woke my brother up who is the most stubborn of people!
Madman Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 2:48 pm
You are right Jim, and thus the reason the Government wants complete control over the internet, to many of their secrets are coming to light.
Government Good! I:P Reply:
July 16th, 2009 at 10:27 am
Who will decide who lives or dies?
Me feels a Congressional Smearing cummin on! Woot woot!!
July 15th, 2009 at 7:03 am
I actually care very much about how our country is being taken over by scumbag eugenicists and globalist bankers. But it has driven me to the point of madness. Now I am convinced that I am a little orange HOMEGAIN gorilla who lives in a little ad box on Alex Jones’ Prison Planet and INFOWARS dot com. My name is Max.
ANON Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 7:16 am
hey max,
i know the person who got you in that little ad box, therefore i am your father.
and concerning Holdren…. he’s a piece of new world order eugenecist scum.
July 15th, 2009 at 7:04 am
ooooooogh ooooooooooooogh ooooooooooogh oooooooooogh (ape noises)
arwijn Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 8:58 am
Clean up your body, get a water filter;
Berkey water fluoride filters or an
Ecoloblue system.
Get the Mercury and led out of your nervous system. It’s been scientifically proven that the body cannot get these substances out of the nervous system by itself. So you have to use a substance to get it out.
I personally used a food supplement called: DMSA (you can buy it on the internet). And it works, o hell yes it works! Do this and your intelligence, concentration and awareness will go up significantly and noticeably! You only have to take it for one period, and you are free of these deadly heavy metals (which everyone has who ever had vaccines).
Stop eating sugars and sugar replacements!
Beside Aspartame, other sugars are also toxic. There are only 3 types of sugars that are safe: Guava syrup, Honey and Maple syrup.
Normal sugar makes you fat. Not because of the glucose it contains but because of the toxic ACID that is released when you digest it! This acid is then transformed into fat to prevent intoxication. The 3 safe sugars do not make you fat, because there is no poison in it!
Never eat Light products of any kind! Beside aspartame things like Light butter is deprived from healthy fats that carry natural vitamins.
ONLY poison makes you fat! Glucose and fats DO NOT make you fat (unless you engorge yourself with them)!
Please take this advice to heart. I swear on my life that everything i said here is true and scientifically proven.
———-
If you clean up yourself with these principles, everything will become easyer. You will become younger, you will become smarter, and you will become more mentally stable.
You will be able to cope better with the frightening reality of this New World Order age, and find the strength to fight it more effectively.
July 15th, 2009 at 7:07 am
College textbook????? The name of the course must have been : Eugenics 101 , Legacy of our god hitler “.
July 15th, 2009 at 7:11 am
When he gets the Shiny Black Boots and the Crisp White Lab Coat watch out it will be the return of DR. Mengele. Obviously he considers himself really worth saving.
July 15th, 2009 at 7:12 am
Internet national threat to there agenda. Now anybody remenbers who said that?
July 15th, 2009 at 7:14 am
Would not some of his views be considered Plagarism of the Third Reich.
July 15th, 2009 at 7:18 am
Wouldn’t these things be classed as hate crime?
Are these words not offensive to some groups in our society.
If this was an ordinary person outside power, the media would be going all after him.
July 15th, 2009 at 7:19 am
Thats not nice to take my comments out like that. Is that any way to treat an orange HOMEGAIN gorilla?
July 15th, 2009 at 7:20 am
Thank you.
July 15th, 2009 at 7:22 am
This dickhead wants to put stuff in the air to fight global warming. Ok what is it, because what go up must come down. Is it really to fight globle warming or is it eugenics in our face? For all I know it could be asbestos. Cancer anyone.
July 15th, 2009 at 7:42 am
Perhaps they are the Resurrection of the Third Reich.
LawyerLynn Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 10:46 am
Your thought was analyzed by a physicist on a video that I watched a couple of weeks ago. The physicist made an excellent & highly supported argument that this is exactly what has happened.
The good news is that I found the video through a link in the comments section of an article on this site. The bad news is that I can’t find the site. I had my hard drive reconfigured, and lost all my bookmarks. This was one I didn’t want to lose.
Especially because it really made perfect sense, and had credible support. The site was something like:
http://www.freethemixtalk.com … or something like that. I KNOW “talk.com” or “talk.net” or talk.[something] was the site. And it had alot of other great vids.
Anyone know this site? Please respond to: lynn@lawyerlynn.com if you do, thanks!
July 15th, 2009 at 7:54 am
Quotation from the article:
“full of spin, half-truths and outright lies”
Spin, half-truths, lies. The Prison Planet and truther mantra (coupled with stupidity, naiveté and sheepism). It’s nice to see Paul Joseph Watson write about something he knows about.
Sui Juris Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 9:59 am
Are you saying that these quotes ARE NOT in his book?
Stab your eyes out and cut off your ears, you do not need them. You let other peoples eyes and ears see and hear for you. Therefore THEY THINK FOR YOU TOO.
shocked and awed Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 10:17 am
Why exactly are you here? If all you obviously believe is gov/corp bullsh## then you should be out looking for an obliging cow so you can stick your head up it’s ass. You’ll feel right at home and you’ll even be doing your bit to stop global warming.
July 15th, 2009 at 8:00 am
I WILL KEEP THIS REAL SIMPLE FIVE WORDS A LIEN SAG OS SHIT…………
July 15th, 2009 at 8:05 am
Cooling the planet? One of the arguments for a warmer planet (and against Global Warming) is that less people die from extreme heat as opposed to extreme cold. A new Global Ice Age. How many people would that kill off?
July 15th, 2009 at 8:17 am
The program of FORCED EUGENICS is now wide out in the open and cannot be denied by the ruling elite as to what they are in the process of doing. ANY of you that cannot see this is deep in a state of DENIAL and will not come to the conclusion of TRUTH until it’s too late.
July 15th, 2009 at 8:19 am
Merely a “formulation”? That’s hilarious! What reasonable person would merely “suggest” the “possibility” of forcibly implanting kids with sterilization capsules!? To think that this is even an option (i.e. a “formulation”) is as insane as an endorsement.
Nobody who is against this kind of thing would write it in a book. No way.
July 15th, 2009 at 8:25 am
He was probably high on peyote when he wrote it
July 15th, 2009 at 8:49 am
I think what Sotomayor said some few years back is much much worse and dangerous
July 15th, 2009 at 8:50 am
It is critical that all parents read their children’s textbooks if they are sent to any school. And parents should also choose a college wisely – not just one that has some name recognition or prestige surrounding it.
July 15th, 2009 at 8:53 am
I think, before I stir up my fellow South Florida geezers, I will attempt to acquire and read a copy of the book. While I don’t believe everything I see or hear online, even a “half-truth”, in this case, tends to make one understand the age-old description of un-easiness. i.e. “nervous as a whore in church”
July 15th, 2009 at 8:56 am
Dec 15 2006
Microwave Sickness / Deadly Electronic Weapons / Canada
Hello
When I worked in the diesel generator business,
I worked with a lot of communications companies all across Canada.
Bell Canada was a big one I did a lot of work with.
They have “standby diesel generators” at their central offices and all their repeater stations.
A lot of “national security” concerns within these systems.
People within these systems have more than enough resources to make you “sick” if you ……”step on the wrong toes.”
Lots of surlpus “microwave generators.” and “radio equipment.”
All with “no forensic evidence.”
It just takes one “idiot” to put something together who does not like you.
There may be a union / non union theme to my problems.
I worked at a non union company, Harper Detroit Diesel.
I had no idea about “radio waves as weapons” until 2005,
……8 years after I initially got sick
I started my research project in January 2004 on the internet with the keywords “constructive dismissal”
in relation to my own problems at Harper Detroit Diesel.
I am not sure about ……”microwave mind control”,
seems to be a lot of articles on the internet about this topic.
It does look like more and more people world wide are looking at
……”radio waves as weapons”.
I think maybe thats because there is now so much “radio equipment”around the world with the advancements in “communications.”
The problems with all these types of systems is the technology falls into the wrong hands.
Some real horror stories from people worldwide about this topic on the internet.
What an eye opener !
Gerry Duffett
Toronto / Ontario / Canada
duffett52@yahoo.com,
gerryduffett@fastmail.ca,
http://gerryduffett.proboards5.....rd=general
July 15th, 2009 at 9:02 am
If this whole Holdren thing isn´t the ultimate smoking gun the noisy negativist and deniers need to wake the f**k up, I don´t know what is!?
This is just beyond insane. Its spelled out in black and whit through the whole damn book. EUGENICS as policy! And now the guy is in the white house!!!
July 15th, 2009 at 9:06 am
Who actually finances Alex Jones???? He’s just another paid gate keeper.
July 15th, 2009 at 9:07 am
i want to express my gratitude to alex jones and prison planet for putting this information out there. me and my friends are paying it forward to friends and family and others. j lunsford there….the positivity’s good but remember it isnt over till she sings, you know? there should be a thousand of comments up here. theres a ways to go yet.
July 15th, 2009 at 9:13 am
Ahh big political man write bad tings den say he don’t mean dem. I believe scrawny ass wipe politico? NOT!!!
July 15th, 2009 at 9:14 am
I hate to say it but I agree with him on few things. We are becoming over populated, I don’t think anyone can argue that fact. There are definitely too many young girls getting pregnant when the should rather be focused on their education.
I would never go so far to say that people must be sterilized but do agree that there should be a limit on how many kids a couple can have, 2 being fair. Lets all be honest here, how many people have looked at a couple with 5, 6 or 8 kids, and wondered “how the hell were they allowed to breed”. I know a lot of you will think I’m a crack pot for saying that, and maybe you are right, but maybe not.
On the whole superior genes thing I don’t see why scientists, at some point in the future, won’t be able to give anyone an injection or some such that fixes all their problems. Preventing any kind of sickness and perhaps increasing intelligence (Hell they probably have such at the moment).
arwijn Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 9:26 am
No you moron.
The west is dying! It has been statistically proven that if a nation’s birthrate goes below 2,3 children per couple the country will auto decrease in population.
The USA and Europe are well below a rate of 2!
There is no god damned overpopulation you idiot!
We need more people to get kids or human civilization will die!
That is what the Eugenicists want…
evelia Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 10:54 am
Arwijin,
No. Only the white race is dying.
meanjean Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 4:47 pm
Excellent, arwijn. Please read Philip Jones work series “To Kill a Tree” in 5 parts which can be found on http://www.rense.com He explains all of this very well.
toni Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 9:38 am
overpopulation is a myth based on a lie. you’ve been fed lies by the media/ and or professors and rather than research the truth for yourself, you’d rather believe in untruths.
Sui Juris Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 10:15 am
They have created the over population problem, not us.
How can a lady with 12 kids compete with MILLIONS of illegal aliens?
I would suggest some mushrooms to squeegee your 3rd eye open….
evelia Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 10:53 am
Tie all Illegal aliens tubes or clip their privates if their male. They breed like cockaroachs. And there are too many damn people on the planet!
Blue Pill Society Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 11:18 am
Overpopulation is a myth, it has been released in a few different studies that only 3% of the inhabitable world is inhabited and the waste generated in north america is enough to feed the planet 2 times over.
If i’m not mistaken, the globe can sustain population near a half a trillion if not more with using certain technologies.
Sui Juris Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 1:41 pm
Overpopulation of the WORLD might be a myth. But overpopulation of America is a cold hard fact my friend.
fguhhn Reply:
July 16th, 2009 at 6:29 am
LOL, the racist trolls are out again i see.
meanjean Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 4:48 pm
Blue: where do you get your figures from? May we check your resources?
July 15th, 2009 at 9:21 am
Notice that neither Paul Watson nor Alex Jones have EVER mentioned the fact that John Holgren is Jewish.
They’re trying to hide this important fact, for obvious reasons.
arwijn Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 9:33 am
OMG That is SOOOO important!
Ýou stupid racist!
I wouldn’t care if he was a Pigmee! It’s what he is saying that matter.
Put belly idiot.
evelia Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 10:50 am
Rex Einstein JOnes,
Fricken’ knew he was! He looks Jewish. And BTW, I am not an anti-semite, but I do hate the state of Israel and Zionists.
Blue Pill Society Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 11:19 am
oh noooooo!!!! not another joo, gimme a break Rex. Even if he is, who cares, nazy jew, white black, pigme, you got assholes of all stripes
July 15th, 2009 at 9:34 am
Probably has stock in this. Pretty colors coming soon.
http://www.crimescene.com/stor.....5Qodyk3HAA
July 15th, 2009 at 9:36 am
The FEMA Blue is rather drab I was thinking Rothschild RED would be more fun. But it
is MADE in America.
July 15th, 2009 at 9:37 am
Remember Dr. Stranglove. “we have a flu/vaccine bomb gap”
July 15th, 2009 at 9:38 am
But Captain no one game me the secret Handshake I can’t stop mutating.
July 15th, 2009 at 9:43 am
keepee on the lookeee on the “future” markets the Investor Class always knows more
than the Intelligance crowd. 9/11 puts
July 15th, 2009 at 9:44 am
Read this: …rather than going back a third of a century to find some formulations in an encyclopedic textbook where description can be misrepresented as endorsement.”
What is their to misunderstand? They are criminals being exposed and now they try to wigle themselves out of it.. pathetic
July 15th, 2009 at 9:47 am
Model Replica of the WTC.
If anyone wants to see a built to scale model replica of the WTC and resulting 9/11 damage, go here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAk1V5lQFZI
(There is a reason the US Government refuses to build a physical model themselves)
After viewing this, I dont see how any intelligent person could doubt that only with Demolitions could those buildings be destroyed. Share it with your friends and family who are too stupid to see the truth.
Enjoy
July 15th, 2009 at 9:54 am
You can view the entire book online at: http://www.questia.com/PM.qst?a=o&d=98156598
July 15th, 2009 at 9:59 am
http://www.rense.com/general45.....caused.htm
July 15th, 2009 at 10:02 am
who cares if he’s jewish? he’s a eugenecist piece of shit! what would someones religion have to do with that? you just mad because you can’t flip it around and call watson and jones anti-semites?
July 15th, 2009 at 10:15 am
When it comes to parasites, it’s all about perspective. You may call a lifetime of growing and feeding off another organism lazy, but we call it opportunistic. In fact, these life-sucking go-getters have managed to carve out some of the most ingenious survival strategies in the world
1. Cymothoa exigua: Biting your tongue, so you don’t have to
As a youngster, this nasty little parasitic crustacean begins a life of terror by fighting its way through the gills of its fish host of choice, the snapper
Once there, it attaches itself to the fish’s tongue and begins feeding on the rich blood pumping through the artery underneath . As the parasite grows, it drinks more blood and eventually causes the tongue to atrophy and disintegrate.
But does the Cymothoa mouth-squatter leave its fishy friend tongueless? Of course not. It does what any crafty parasite would do and replaces the old tongue with its own body.
The fish is actually able to use the parasite just like a normal tongue, only it has to share all the food with its new friend. Yes, the whole foster-tongue thing seems like a pretty nice gesture on the part of ol’ Cymothoa –until you remember there was nothing wrong with the fish’s old tongue in the first place.
Mosq Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 7:58 pm
psycho
July 15th, 2009 at 10:16 am
I wish that a hit squad would assassinate all of these globalist bankers including the Federal Reserve and eugenist scumbags as well as their crony politician and big business friends. Maybe then we could start over.
July 15th, 2009 at 10:28 am
“pronatalist” I can almost see him sneer when he says the word, Makes me wonder what his mother was like. Cold drunken bitch or prescient enough to realize what a piece of garbage she gave birth to but didn’t have the balls to smother.
July 15th, 2009 at 10:29 am
I bet the movie “It’s Alive” was based on him.
July 15th, 2009 at 10:36 am
Even if it were a rumor that the Globalists wanted to kill you, would you not take certain precautions to protect yourself? Then you have these people that are speaking about it with greater frequency and boldness you still would not hesitate to take the shots?
What is wrong with mankind that they have become so careless that they no longer hold any value in their own lives and continue to eat the poison foods, drink the poison waters, and don’t really care about the chemicals that are sprayed in the skies?
What has become of true mankind and his ability to think for himself? No sense of self preservation! No concept of REALITY! No ability to rationalize ANYTHING!
Where is mankind headed?
warren buffett Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 8:29 pm
We’re coming to your house, what’s for dinner?
LukeLuke Reply:
July 17th, 2009 at 3:25 pm
Hey Mr Buffet, got any jobs you want doing?
July 15th, 2009 at 10:39 am
What happened to the documents that were on this page? I tried to open one and it didn’t open. When I tried again they were gone. Sounds suspicious….
July 15th, 2009 at 10:47 am
“Another related issue that seems to encourage a pronatalist attitude in many people is the question of the differential reproduction of social or ethnic groups. Many people seem to be possessed by fear that their group may be outbred by other groups. White Americans and South Africans are worried there will be too many blacks, and vice versa. The Jews in Israel are disturbed by the high birth rates of Israeli Arabs, Protestants are worried about Catholics, and lbos about Hausas. Obviously, if everyone tries to outbreed everyone else, the result will be catastrophe for all. This is another case of the “tragedy of the commons,” wherein the “commons” is the planet Earth. Fortunately, it appears that, at least in the DCs, virtually all groups are exercising reproductive restraint>”
Uhh, don’t think all groups are showing restraint. Just look at the Mexican and Central American reproductive practises, esp . in the US! Usually 3+ and averge of 5 children each. (paid for by your taxes dollars Americans.)
They are obviously living in an ivory tower if they think this.
July 15th, 2009 at 11:06 am
I think Stormbergers prediction will play out.
July 15th, 2009 at 11:13 am
Tim….McVeigh. The legend lives on….
July 15th, 2009 at 11:40 am
“description can be misrepresented as endorsement.”
———————–
There ya go – prisonplanet’s method of operation. And you lot are the suckers, sucking at Alex’s pay-as-you-go teet.
There’s a war on – for your dollars.
July 15th, 2009 at 11:49 am
From the ‘WorldAffairsCouncil’ channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/WorldAffairsCouncil
John Holdren at the World Affairs Council 9-13-2008
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVgqePxKmPE
http://wacsf.vportal.net/
July 15th, 2009 at 11:59 am
To defend freedom we must prepare!
http://www.warnthepeople.org/be-prepared.html
July 15th, 2009 at 12:01 pm
Does every picture of John Holdren look like an old druggie from the 60’s? That frustrated look on his mug is due to not being laid since Nixon was in office. The hateful mother probably would like to terminate most of us, yes you can see it all in his face. It sort of looks like an asshole with dentures.
shocked and awed Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 3:34 pm
He does have a vertical smile doesn’t he.
meanjean Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 4:59 pm
You’re looking at the wrong end. That’s his asshole.
Awakened Lone Wolf Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 8:47 pm
Meanjean using profanity? say its not so
shocked and awed Reply:
July 16th, 2009 at 9:04 am
How can you be so sure?
meanjean Reply:
July 16th, 2009 at 11:18 am
Sorry Wolf, I have to call a spade a spade. Depopulation is a sore point with me.
Shocked: How can you not be?:)
July 15th, 2009 at 12:04 pm
This prick in the picture is a worthless excuse for humanity. I really hate these bastards like this who think they can just take control of everyones lives and do as they please. This SOB, the NWO,UN,& the rest of these pieces of SHIT need to be taken out of the picture.PEOPLE,ARENT YOU SICK AND TIRED OF ALL THIS BULLSHIT YET? WAKE THE HELL UP AND HELP THE REST OF HUMANITY WITH WHATEVER MEANS IT TAKES! Screw these bastards, if they dont understand protests & the like, then lets get are goddamned guns together march on Washington and let the NWO loving trash know that we arent fucking around no more! THIS IS OUR WORLD TO LIVE IN AND MAKE DECISIONS! ITS NOT FOR ANY CERTAIN PERSON OR GROUP TO CONTROL WHAT WAS GIVEN TO US BY GOD!!!!!!!
IAM SICK AND TIRED OF ALL THESE MONEY HUNGRY,POWER WORSHIPERS,WHO LIVE THERE FANCY FUCKIN LIVES OFF THE REST OF US WHO TRY TO BE HONEST AND LIVE NORMAL LIVES!!!!!
I REALLY HOPE THE GODDAMNED CIA, FBI,NWO,UN,BUGS BUNNY, & THE REST OF THESE COWARDS READ THIS!!!!!!!
BECAUSE , I REALLY DONT GIVE A GODDAMNED RATS ASS WHAT THE PIECES OF SHIT THINK!
COMMUNIST BASTARDS!
July 15th, 2009 at 12:06 pm
paul watson: “Holdren and the Ehrlich’s do not identify who “it has been concluded” by, leaving the reader in no doubt that “it has been concluded” by the writers themselves that forced abortion should be introduced.”
ABSOLUTELY *NOT* A PLAUSIBLE CONCLUSION – THE ACTUAL TEXT, AS QUOTED BY PAUL WATSON SUGGESTS IT WOULD BE CONSTITUTIONAL – *NOT* DESIRABLE.
The quote actually says:
“Indeed, it has been concluded that compulsory population-control laws, even including laws requiring compulsory abortion, could be sustained under the existing Constitution if the population crisis became sufficiently severe to endanger the society.”
That can be rewritten as
“Indeed, it has been concluded that “XYZ”, could be sustained under the existing Constitution if “ABC” conditions prevail.
You can only conclude that’s an endorsement of XYZ by twisting the basics of english comprehension.
jason Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
The problem with your assertions “Aunty” is that the Co-Author of this “Text-Book” also wrote the “Population Bomb.”
Taking that into account with Holdren’s other statements (outside the textbook, and with “Population Bomb”) it pretty much seals the fact that Holdren does indeed believe and want the things he speaks of.
Has he softened his approach so that it will be accepted? Sure. It is now CO2 that will kill us all instead of “NO FOOD” as THEY BOTH insisted outside the textbook in the 1970’s. However, the conclusion is the same.
Forced population control.
Uncle Sam Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 9:02 am
rubbish. he *did* believe in a population timebomb, perhaps. But that doesn’t mean he necessarily subscribes to all policies about controlling population.
there’s nothing to say his policies are already underway, as prisonplanet suggested. it’s just simple lies, from spinmeister Paul “spin” Watson.
July 15th, 2009 at 12:16 pm
Alex,
thank god that you exist! If it wasnt for your information alot of folks wouldnt even have a clue as to whats really carrying on. It just makes me so dammned mad that our own government would be in bed with the Federal reserve & NWO .Doing all this shit to people after some of there own ancestors fought & died to have a free country for them and there families. Its just sickning to think all this bullshit is going on behind our backs. I mean shit, they dont give a damned what we say, or what we ask for. They just implement shit in the background without even considering what the public thinks! Its just not right!!!! One day all these jokers are going to be on there knees praying to god for mercy. I just hope i get to be the heavenly fly on the wall who gets to watch all these bastards cry & beg for forgiveness before they are cast into HELL !!!!!!!
Aunty Semite Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 12:47 pm
Calm down? Prisonplanet is just misrepresenting Holdren’s views. Read what Holdren said…….not what prisonplanet claim he said?
LukeLuke Reply:
July 17th, 2009 at 3:30 pm
We have, he is an early to mid 20th century Eugenist. Straight from the old school. Nothing new. Just the same crap trying to seperate the poor from a different race to the rich which is a direct result of exploitative Capitalism. Eugenics is a falsehood.
Uncle Sam Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 9:00 am
population control is not eugenics. moron.
July 15th, 2009 at 1:29 pm
Everybody knows there are not enough people in the world especially tax payers,productive slaves and business men. You all, quit yakking about like hairdressers on valium and grab your misuss and get very buzy.Go on,get in there and start breeding. There are not enough people at all, forget what old decrepit bearded old leeches are spewing, the world needs more babes. Pronto. If you want to be really patriotic breed, breed and breed some more. Given that most of the youth are turning funny and are now allergic to ladies like all Bruno types.There are very few around with the healthy jisms and stamina to save the USA. Every one able, healthy and loves the nation must get busy. The more educated the better,don’t let the unwashed outbreed the washed. But whatever, just get in there selector.People are needed and can only be bred at least for now. Get in there and get the flag flying. God will save america that way. No kidding!
July 15th, 2009 at 1:41 pm
BY ALL MEANS STERILIZE THE FUCK OUT OF THIS COUNTRY!
Then idiots like jewboy Maury Povich and jewboy Jerry Springer wouldn’t have society destructing shows that have to prove if Terrell is the father of all six of Shaniqua’s kids! “Terrell you ARE the father!”. God i’m sick of that shit. The simple fact of the matter is that niggers are a fesces on this earth and would steal from their own mother’s. They have no souls and willfully destroy neighborhoods by standing on the corners to sell drugs! You can be as politically correct as you want to, i am just stating what most of you want to say but won’t for fear of losing credibility in future posts. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out that nobody likes blacks. You know you cringe when you’re around them, stop denying it. You know when they’re next to you at a 7/11 convenience store you’re ready to crap yourself. You know you’re ready to cry when niggers move in 3 houses down because you’re property value just dropped $15,000 the day they moved in. Not-to-mention the fact that if they have teenage boys, your car is more likely than not, going to get broken in to.
Obiously this Holdren creature has had a few monkeys move into his neighborhood or been mugged by a spook before because he knows that forced sterilization is a viable option to keep the nigger population down. Whenever i see 3 or more spooks together i just say to myself, “there goes trouble. I feel sorry for whosever house is about to get broken into”.
My neighbor had his home broken in to 3 years ago and it was two monkeys that had moved in the neighorhood 5 months earlier. Apparently they were scoping out the neighborhood looking for vulnerable targets. What makes me nervous is that 4 of them knocked on my door just a week before my neighbors break-in and i told the spooks to beat it when i stepped onto my porch strapped with my shoulder holster and Ruger P89 9mm with a mach II slide. They couldn’t even tell me why they were there knocking on my fuckin door.
I believe in forced sterilization. Right now, i think it’s very necessary to keep the spooks from having kids for more government money. Sterilize them all!
Chunfla Burlbe Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 1:55 pm
Simmer down, grab your missus , get in there and get busy. I hope you are not one of the bruno types. If indeed, it’s all good, the good lord loves you too, if not, what are you waiting for flashing your 9mm on unwashed breeder.Get back in there and shoot some real bullets into the target. Go in there, and stop acting scared.Do it for the USA,do it for your mister,give it some thing worthwhile. Get Busy. Dammit! The unwashed have already outbred you. Dammit!
meanjean Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 5:01 pm
Well done! You crack me up. I’ll be laughing all day.
THIRDPARTY Reply:
July 17th, 2009 at 6:11 am
YOUR A SHILL,YOU ARE A RACIST PIG,THE MEDIA WANT’S THE BLACK PEOPLE TO LOOK LIKE JACKASSES,JUST AS THE MEDIA MAKES THE TEA BAGGERS LOOK RACIST,OR WHITE PEOPLE IN THE SOUTH THAT LIVE IN TRAILERS.YOU HAVE TO BE AWARE OF ALL THE GOVERNMENT RUN PARADIGM’S.SUCH AS RACE,POLITICS,FINANCIAL CLASSES.YOU SOUND LIKE A RETARD.
LukeLuke Reply:
July 17th, 2009 at 3:33 pm
You have missed something, Holdrens Eugenics is for you.
Uncle Sam Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 8:59 am
it’s not eugenics. population control is about numbers, not quality.
Nazis were eugenicists, china today (with its population control) is not.
July 15th, 2009 at 1:57 pm
It’s more than prominently displayed in that interview. The cameraman has clearly been instructed to not take the focus away from the book, and Holdren is clearly leaning forward in an uncomfortable manner just to ensure both the book and his face are in the shot.
July 15th, 2009 at 2:14 pm
I agree with Politically Correct. In the words of Stanely Krubic’s “Full Metal Jacket”……
All jungle bunnies must die……and…Thank God for the sicle cell…signed Killer
revenge of the nerds Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 5:51 pm
how much they paying you joe? you don’t fool us dickhead
July 15th, 2009 at 8:15 pm
Doesn’t it seem funny that a government that once paid the lowest common denominator of society, the brown people, to reproduce exponentially by giving them more money for each child they had now finds it necessary to kill the spawn off?
America has always suffered at the hands of a government of idiots that couldn’t see further than the ends of their noses. Now they have to pay they price for the very programs they institutionalized for decades. This is the reason the oldest and smartest civilizations of the planet will be around when America is no more. The wait is almost over.
July 15th, 2009 at 8:33 pm
Wake up folks! They are coming for us. Are you going to live on your knees? I’m going to die on my feet fighting this scum. Come and get me, you thugs surveilling this list. I have a surprise for you. I am not cattle or sheep. You are absolute scum and deserve what you get. WE WILL PREVAIL OVER YOU. YOU ARE SCARED AND WE KNOW IT. YOU ARE DONE! YOU ARE MESSING WITH THE WRONG FOLKS! We are the silent majority and will wipe you off the earth.
July 15th, 2009 at 8:46 pm
“A revolution occurs when great numbers of people realize that the system benefits the Powers That Be, not the citizenry, despite the PTB’s constant assurances that this is the very best system on Earth.”
Charles Hugh Smith
Does our country have enough able bodied/ able to think indivuals left in it to change anything? Every year we get fatter, dumber, more delusional, less commited to family etc. We are rotting from the inside, not sure if we are salvageable.
You want the truth? You can handle the truth? you should read –
http://www.oftwominds.com/survival-plus1.html
July 15th, 2009 at 9:05 pm
well, there sure is a lot of racist shit smeared on these comments…. by agent provacateurs trying to misrepresent the people that view this site. they wear bunny hats and black masks and kick out windows in the street during the demonstrations, then pretend to be hillbillys and such and post racist rants alongside the intelligent commentaries here to make it all appear less credible to the public. what wasted fuckin life are you. no one can stop whats coming…the earth swallowing you up and shitting you out in china with your bunny ears sticking out of your ass.
Paul Lesterfield Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 10:15 pm
Here’s a little racist thought to ponder Mosq. The US was driven by white men until the 60’s. The country was the land of milk and honey, rich, ingenious, productive, innovative. Then came the “enlightenment”: woman’s lib, integration, affirmative action, etc. Now, you have the results of those mistakes, a country in decay, financial ruin, moral depravity, etc.
Some imbeciles are saying it’s the white man that did it, he has been running the country, blah, blah, blah. Educated people know what really did America in, it was the diversity, the political correctness, etc.
If people can’t deal with these facts, fuck them. It’s time to face the truth. Americans need not wonder what happened to their country, this is what happened to their country.
Swede1 Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 10:47 pm
The goal of the jeusits is to intermix races,dilute them down until they no longer hold a general consesus about anything. Mix blacks with whites, catholics with protestants or whatever mix you want! Pretty soon, noone will agree on fundamental values and the race baiters(jesuits) can take over this country! It is easy to conquer when the masses cannot agree and take a stand against a despotic government! i also agree with those here who do not propose sterilization for illegals and this simply opens the floodgates for the government to begin proposing anything they want in regards to this issue as well as to whoever they want! To the poster who spoke of the illegals balancing out the work-force, your right! this is why I belieeve they are opening the borders or turning thei rbacks on the concerns of the american people! the government is “creating” another baby boom! they are alos possibly trying to do away with the protestant as all this abortion money is not for roman catholics! Tell me, do you think mexicans will be walking into abortion clinics?? The goal of the jesuit is to rid of the protestant! the protestant has freedom, a gun, a bible in their hands. A roman does not. jesuits are romans! fill america with roman catholics, abort the protestant and rome rises and the jesuits take over. It has been going on for centuries and america better wake up! They are trying to remove our very amendments that were granted to us to free us from the KING and that is your gun and your bible! Your calvinistic protestant belief of liberty from rome. The very two things that separate you from government rule and tyranny!
Swede1 Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 10:51 pm
uh oh…oops, not meant to be against roman catholics as the churches members have no idea of the final plans. Catholics are good people. It is their government within the church over in rome that wants to dictate world dominion. They always have and they will continue to try! Old tigers never die!
meanjean Reply:
July 16th, 2009 at 11:25 am
Swede1 – According to Philip Jones http://www.rense.com the purpose of the this, is the Illuminati are trying to destroy Christianity so that their Luciferian 13 bloodlines can take everyone away from God. For without faith, no one can resist evil. And the evil that is being addressed here and elsewhere is slowly tightening its grip on us all unless we wake up. Read Phillip’s articles on this.
it was white people Reply:
July 16th, 2009 at 3:48 am
look at the what the white people that did mass genocide to the Indians and shut up with that crap
meanjean Reply:
July 16th, 2009 at 11:26 am
What damn color are you???
Mosq Reply:
July 16th, 2009 at 7:38 pm
you know i respect your opinion and maybe it was a land of milk and honey to your people, but it wasnt like that for mine for a long time before the 60’s. and the 60’s destabilization of ‘white’ society was caused by the money powers and MIC… that was the time they kicked into overdrive, they shot the kennedys, they wanted vietnam, and thats the reason you all flipped and your shit fell apart…whites pointing fingers at red or brown people or women is just one more deflection of the real issue, like democrats and republicans blaming each other for you on tv. news is the same. everybody is pitted against each other while those 150 or so families are busy behind the scenes stealing everything you own and poisoning your water and food…you have more in common with the people ‘over there’ than you know. youre all going to have to learn to survive off the grid….soon. or they wont stop till they rip your motherfuckin spirits out
Uncle Sam Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 8:58 am
oh yeah – the racists, jew-haters and homicidal pricks inhabiting prisonplanet are all agents provocateurs? yeah, right……..sure.
WTF makes you say that? why not accept that Alex Jones actually ENCOURAGES exactly that sort of belief? Why not just accept he attracts such people – becase of what he says?
July 16th, 2009 at 4:01 am
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July 16th, 2009 at 12:35 pm
wheres the book, ECOSCIENCE?
Put it on yopur freaking pages you idiots!!!
Can’t find it on infowars and prison planet when they said it would be there!!!
July 16th, 2009 at 5:36 pm
It’s pretty amazing what you can do online ..It was not that long ago that you were wondering who just called your when you were not
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at home. Now you can only see who’s the unknown caller .. and also spy on who’s talking to your lover
It’s crazy … You can even find the address by a simple phone number.. Wonder what’s gonna come next ?
July 17th, 2009 at 3:35 am
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July 17th, 2009 at 3:54 am
what is the consensis on putting two in this guys head?
July 17th, 2009 at 6:00 am
I AGREE WITH HIM,BUT THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT HE’S FIRST,CONGRESS AFTER HIM,THEN THE SEN,THEN THE BIG BANKERS,THEN FED RESERVE,THEN THE ALL THE LOBBYIST.HEY I CREATED THE PERFECT AMERICA,IN ONLY 2 MIN.
July 17th, 2009 at 12:44 pm
Obama’s science czar does not support coercive population control, spokesman says
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Science Czar John HoldrenWashington D.C., Jul 15, 2009 / 06:08 am (CNA).- The office of President Obama’s “science czar” John Holdren has responded to concerns Holdren co-authored a book which allegedly contained comments supporting coercive population control measures. A spokesman for the department said that Holdren disavowed such policies at his confirmation hearing.
Holdren is currently Director of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy, Assistant to the President for Science and Technology, and Co-Chair of the President’s Council of Advisors on Science and Technology.
In 1977, he co-authored the 1,000 page book “Ecoscience” with Paul and Anne Ehrlich. The book included several descriptions of possible population control measures, including the addition of “sterilants” to the water supply to prevent human conception.
One section, titled “Population Law,” cited the radical group Zero Population Growth and said “it has been concluded that compulsory population-control laws, even including laws requiring compulsory abortion, could be sustained under the existing Constitution if the population crisis became sufficiently severe to endanger the society.”
“Few today consider the situation in the United States serious enough to justify compulsion, however.”
Another section discussed a “planetary regime” that might be given responsibility for “determining the optimum population for the world and for each region and for arbitrating various countries’ shares within their regional limits.”
In Tuesday e-mails to CNA, Rick Weiss, the Office of Science and Technology Policy’s Director of Strategic Communications, said the material at issue was from “a three-decade-old, three-author textbook used in colleges to teach energy policy.”
He could “easily dismiss” fears that Dr. Holdren favors government control over population growth.
“He made that quite clear in his confirmation hearing,” Weiss said.
He then quoted a section of the confirmation transcript in which Sen. David Vitter (R-LA) asked Holdren whether he thinks “determining optimal population is a proper role of government.”
“No, Senator, I do not,” was Holdren’s reply, according to Weiss and a transcript of the proceedings.
In other remarks at the confirmation hearing, not cited by Weiss, Holdren told Sen. Vitter he no longer thinks it is “productive” to focus on the “optimum population” for the United States. “I don’t think any of us know what the right answer is.”
According to Weiss, Holdren “made clear that he did not believe in coercive means of population control” and is not an advocate for measures expressed in the book “and they are certainly not endorsed by this administration in any way.”
Weiss also provided CNA with a statement from the book’s other two authors, Paul and Anne Ehrlich.
The Ehrlichs said they had been “shocked” at what they called the “serious misrepresentation” of their and Holdren’s views.
“We were not then, never have been, and are not now ‘advocates’ of the Draconian measures for population limitation described — but not recommended — in the book’s 60-plus small-type pages cataloging the full spectrum of population policies that, at the time, had either been tried in some country or analyzed by some commentator.”
Describing “Ecoscience” as a “textbook,” they said its descriptions can be “misrepresented as endorsement.”
Paul Ehrlich was the author of the 1968 bestselling book The Population Bomb, which predicted that massive famines in the 1970s would kill “hundreds of millions,” including Americans.
Coercive population control measures, including forced sterilizations and abortions, have been used in China’s one-child policy. In Peru in the 1990s, the U.S. Agency for International Development and the United Nations Population Fund provided support for what became an involuntary sterilization program which victimized an estimated 300,000 women.
July 17th, 2009 at 12:47 pm
If you are falling for Alex Jones lies — you are a fool.
You can write a textbook about what can done about a problem – and not endorse it or want it done.
IF you can not understand that …. God Bless You poor dear.
The Ehrlichs said they had been “shocked” at what they called the “serious misrepresentation” of their and Holdren’s views.
“We were not then, never have been, and are not now ‘advocates’ of the Draconian measures for population limitation described — but not recommended — in the book’s 60-plus small-type pages cataloging the full spectrum of population policies that, at the time, had either been tried in some country or analyzed by some commentator.”
Describing “Ecoscience” as a “textbook,” they said its descriptions can be “misrepresented as endorsement.”
Uncle Sam Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 8:56 am
Absolutely.
Paul Watson is a disgrace to journalism. he can’t report a single thing accurately. He’s a spin-merchant………..twisting everything to follow Alex’s preconceived agenda. No matter the facts – they can twist anything to say what they want. And what the heck, huh – it makes money, right? So it’s all good…….
July 17th, 2009 at 11:22 pm
That guy I think I saw him on the sex offender registry
July 18th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
RJP3, your just another word twisting freak like the rest of the obama administration and modern “elite” wanna be’s in the federal government. This isn’t even a problem to be figured out by “experts” but more fear mongering bullshit excuses for taking more liberty away from the people. We’re on to your kind, and I hope to see you on the other side when the shit hits the fan. We’ll see how well your word twisting political screwballs do then. When men intend to take the place of God and natural laws, they are soon doomed to hell. If you don’t love liberty and the constitution, then you have no foundation to stand. You are no better than any tyrant who has ever victimized people, and are in fact, against the very principals on which this nation was founded. Do you call yourself American? DO you even know what the constitution says ? Do you even realize how many of your constitutional rights have been lost due to the federal expansion of power, driven by the international banking cartel and corporate “elite” ? This administration has already proven themselves just more of the same political fraud that Americans have chosen to endure since 1913 and the bloodless coup of the Federal Reserve central banking system. This generation is different. We’re tired of of your fraud against the american citizen, and were not taking it anymore. You losers are on notice !! And let me ask you, where does anyone if office get off appointing someone they call a “Czar” ? in this country ? What are you, wanna be communists ?
July 19th, 2009 at 9:30 am
BTW
Just in case anybody thinks that nobody is taking eugenics seriously I would like to point out that there is a complete ‘EUGENICS FACTORY’ and ‘EUGENICS CLINIC’ modelled in GTA IV. I’m not sure if it made it into the actual game as I haven’t seen it in the Bronx district yet. But for those with the PC version you can use SparkIV to browse the data files to pc>data>maps>east>bronx_e.img and open the file bxe_acware01.wdr and the eugenics clinic textures are located in the file called bxe_lod_03.wtd
Note the 6 large, black chimney stacks on the factory!
infobomb Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 12:37 pm
p.s. I took some screenshots and uploaded them to my site at http://www.tranquilitylane.com
July 19th, 2009 at 9:37 pm
I’m not so sure that what P Watson is doing is any different than any other newspaper in this country. I think PP wants stories written in human form rather than robot form like AP journalists, etc.
I think the “spin” you speak of is just his way of pointing out the obvious in the article which generally is him pointing out obvious governmental lies and frauds intertwined with some sarcasm, clearly.
This site os for clear thinking, oopen-minded adults and to be honest with you, i like the way the stories are presented. If you don’t like them, then just go ahead and FIND ANOTHER WEBSITE TO HANG OUT AT DUMBASS!
July 20th, 2009 at 5:34 am
THANK GOD, the eugenists didn’t get here until it was much too late to do any harm to
the successful beginning of The New Breed!
July 21st, 2009 at 4:31 pm
Alex, if you get a hold of a copy, I’ll scan the whole thing for internet viewing
July 22nd, 2009 at 4:27 pm
Posting a few paragraphs isn’t putting a discussion “in context”.
Posting an entire chapter IS putting it in context.
Where he says “depending on the society” clearly he’s implying potential world-wide responses to overpopulation. …. and in perfect example, CHINA has limited its families to 1 child each, or they have to pay huge taxes (fines/fees/whatever).
The argument made in the book that having multiple spouses is illegal and constitutional suggests that the government really could limit family size and not violate the constitution (at least as far as the corrupt bastards on the SCOTUS are concerned). It really doesn’t make sense that you can ‘only’ have one wife (although personally I wonder how anyone could stand more than one). Yet those laws stand.
Many people other than those authors have suggested involuntary sterilization in the context of sexual offenders. In the context shown in this article the authors clearly state that people abhor sterilization through contamination of their water. “Adding a sterilant to drinking water or staple foods is a suggestion that seems to horrify people more than most proposals for involuntary fertility control. Indeed, this would pose some very difficult political, legal, and social questions, to say nothing of the technical problems.” That hardly sounds like an endorsement by the authors.
July 24th, 2009 at 1:40 pm
I’d frankly rather be ruled by Muslims than people like this. I’d feel more safe.
July 29th, 2009 at 5:44 am
Very nice site!