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Iran Attack, Election Suspension, Martial Law in the Cards?
Kurt Nimmo
Infowars
July 27, 2008
It didn’t make the news, at least not the corporate news. According to Bob Feuer, Bush will attack Iran, declare martial law, and suspend the election. Congress critter John Olver apparently made this claim at a town hall meeting at the Jones Library in Amherst, Massachusetts, last July. Feuer, a lawyer and political activist challenging Olver in the 1st Congressional District of Massachusetts, was at the town hall meeting with others to present Olver with resolutions to impeach Bush for war crimes when Olver made the comments. On July 5, 2007, the After Downing Street website posted Feuer’s retelling of the incident:
At about 10 am, the congressman came into the room with his aid, and Susie Patlove welcomed the congressman, laid out our agenda, and the congressman approved. We commenced with individual introductions and brief reports on the outcomes in each of our towns. Cong. Olver asked us to spare him a review of what he already knew and believed about the crimes of the Bush administration, and of the overwhelming majority of his district in favor of impeachment. When he aggrandized himself on his voting record, I took exception to 24 April 2007. When he asked what I was referring to, I challenged him to co-sponsor H. Res. 333; and he emphatically refused.
Nonetheless, we informed him of the good that would come out of an impeachment, and gave intelligent and caring answers to all of the objections he might harbor. We had present a young U.S. soldier, a veteran of both the Iraq and Afghanistan occupations, who directly asked the congressman what could we do to move him towards co-signing H. Res. 333. The congressman did not answer that direct question.
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He is deeply concerned whether we will actually have an election in Nov. ‘08, as he believes this administration will likely strike Iran from the air, declare a national emergency, and cancel the ‘08 elections. He sees ending the war as his primary goal, and he believes the brilliant Nancy Pelosi [sic] has a strategy more potent than impeachment. He thinks impeachment is a futile waste of legislative energy, will be harmful of democratic ‘08 victories, and further tighten the “gridlock” he has complained of for the past few decades.
Olver would later deny he said this and would insist he was misquoted.
Not a word appeared in the corporate media, even though Olver has been a Democratic member of the United States House of Representatives since 1991. But then, of course, the corporate media is in bed with the neocons and wholly complicit in their plans to reduce Muslim and Arab countries to smoldering cinders. Last time around, neocon operative Judith Miller was allowed to publish all sorts of lies about Iraq in the “liberal” New York Times. Silence this time around should be expected.
Feuer’s claim is especially pertinent now as Dennis Kucinich attempts to get Bush impeached and rumblings about an attack against Iran pick up speed. The election is but a mere four months away and if Olver is correct — Bush will attack Iran, suspend the election, and declare martial law — this will have to go down in the next couple months or so. Bush and the neocons have installed their repressive legislation and directives — PDD51, the Military Commissions Act, and the John Warner Defense Authorization Act, all designed to silence the opposition and “enforce acquiescence at home,” as the Episcopal priest and activist Frank Morales notes.
Only time will tell if this scenario will actually occur. If it does, we can expect the corporate media to remain silent on the rendition of activists to those brand spanking new Halliburton concentration camps, as fascists always sweep up and do away with the opposition.
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July 27th, 2008 at 9:31 am
“There’s a lot more of us than they’ll ever be of you
The police and military all are poor people, too
The father of our country was a general who led a rebellion.
If you don’t think it could happen, then you’d better think again
The Brits could not believe when it was happening to them
But it happened and the world went on
And they’re remembered as villains.
Rebellion, rebellion, rebellion.” — Cornbread Mafia
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uw5dP5gy2Vs
July 27th, 2008 at 9:39 am
Sounds about right. Just several of many possibilities in the very near future. Things look bleak. Tough times ahead, and tough actions are required here. Stock up now! Only the best prepared can survive what’s coming. And even the strongest of us (mentally and physically) may not survive. Just do what you can to prepare. Weapons, ammo, camping supplies, food, water, supplements, first aid. Don’t be afraid to rack up the credit cards either. Make your dwelling more defensible and have at least two contingencies for evacuation (places to go, relatives, friends). Communicate with each other and let everyone know if there are strange things going on with the police, military, or at hospitals or prisons nearby. Be prepared to hike during the night and hide during the day to get to safety. Get together with like minded individuals and come up with a plan. If we organize now, we will have a chance. Watch movies like Dune, Heat, Full Metal Jacket, and shows like Survivorman. Chance favors the prepared mind AND body.
Good luck.
July 27th, 2008 at 9:39 am
@ Jaxbak
Wishing and praying for a revolution isn’t going to usher it in. What CAN be done is beginning the revolution and praying that we win!
Praying for something to happen isn’t going to make it happen. We just need to begin.
July 27th, 2008 at 9:41 am
@ Chuck
Agreed. And be vigilant with individuals that you interact with. “They” are great at infiltration.
July 27th, 2008 at 9:48 am
JAXBAK,
You are correct! Even people that call me RANTINGRICH and the town crazy man, they even know something bad is in the works.. But no I.m crazy! Once THIS thing happens, is Katy bar the door, Gloves off, fight on! SOme of the people we grab their MUSKET and do something about it but also you had better make sure the kings stays down or he will scortch the nation! We have heard that if their is an UPRISING Cheny assured us they will turn the problem cities into dust, and I have no doubt he will. I just hope we amerikcan FOOLS won’t believe a word that IRAN blew up Virginia or North Corolina pick your state when the excrement hits the air circulating device!
If I could for this fall Figure out that city BUSH will be in and be there, it’s the only safe place. Except huuummm I wouldn’t doubt if THE POWERS THAT be, will SNUFF ol GWB, Hes the perfect patsy, retard fool. Funny how nothing bad happened to the WHITE house on 911 though, I know Bush was in Florida… hum his brothers state… How odd?
July 27th, 2008 at 9:52 am
JAXBAK…. your wish will come true….
your hopes will come true….
mr jaxbak… you will see a revolution.. the people will have enough and we will riot… wait for people to suffer a bit more…
when you have suffering,,, you will get your revolution….
just wait for it… it always happens… history will repeat itself and the goverments will fall,,, as they always do…
how was america founded… on revolution….
you must wait for suffering to take place on a big scale and the people will bring change… they can’t win against the people…
we will defeat them in the end… but the cost to human life will be high…. but we will win….
your ancestors were in a revolution… you to will see one…
we humans fight when the going gets tough… then we fight and we fight and we win….
just waiting now for the majority to wake up… they are sleeping and being mislead,,, but they are there, there and on our side…
the majority don’t like the goverment,,, but they are coping as best they can….
when the time is ripe,,, the majority shall awaken and they will see with there own eyes, the horror that will come….
then they will awaken and fight with there whole human spirit,,, they will fight for there life and more importantly there childrens lives….
just wait my friend,,, i am waiting for suffering,,, when that starts,,, you will see mr nikoli fighting…. when my family and i start suffering,,, then i will fight,,, we are just waiting for the middle class to suffer,,, it is coming…
July 27th, 2008 at 9:52 am
Hey, the US government might as well declare Martial Law on the same day they attack Iran. They’re just planning ahead. They must have heard that the People’s Revolution also begins that very same day. But using Martial Law as a way to prevent the People’s Revolution will be like using gasoline to try to extinguish a fire.
July 27th, 2008 at 9:56 am
lorenzo:
You and the Cornball Mafia better not count on the police or military to help us when the Revolution comes. As long as they remain in uniform and at their posts they will be in our gunsights, and if they desert to join our ranks we will require each one of them to execute ten of their former comrades before we even begin to trust them.
July 27th, 2008 at 10:00 am
1. This type of thing certifies that portions of Hitler’s
DNA somehow found their way into ole Prez. Hopalong’s body.
2. May we all survive.
July 27th, 2008 at 10:10 am
In a Revolution or a Civil War the fascists and the military would love for us to be stupid enough to meet them in the open somewhere at High Noon for a good old-fashioned face-to-face Redcoats versus Bluecoats duel, which puts the whole firepower, training, ammo, and aircraft advantage on their side.
I have a MUCH better idea. Never meet them in the open, and never in force, unless you’ve set up the perfect ambush and you’re certain that you can massacre them all without any losses to your own people. When dealing with a ’superior force’, ambush, snipers, and assassination are the best way to utilize your marksmen.
Kill EVERYONE who works for the government or in management for a big corporation. ALL collaborators must die; killing a lot of these people will disrupt the fascists’ ‘business as usual’ and frighten people away from cooperating with the government. All persons of wealth are the enemy; get rid of them.
You can get away clean with an ambush of a motorized column with a small organized team. Drop a roadblock in their path — telephone pole, tree, stalled vehicles, whatever suits the situation. When a few of the targets exit their vehicles, have several snipers hit them simultaneously from different directions. This will confuse them regarding where the shots came from. Another trick is to have someone set off a string of firecrackers in a location near the convoy, which is the signal for your spipers to fire and it further confuses the enemy.
By severely wounding an enemy, you make him a burden to his fellows, which can be more advantageous than killing him. The police and military wear body armor, so aim for the face, the groin, the butt, or the knees. Everybody gets one shot; a second shot might reveal your position and it takes too much time. Escape by bicycle or motorbike; you can easily hide such vehicles and go places where four wheels can’t go.
After you’ve escaped and they’re busy treating their wounded, an IED explosion or two would be the icing on the cake. If you lack the supplies or the technical expertise to rig a timer to your IED, you can simply conceal a 30 pound canister of propane (papier mache can be made to look like anything) at the site, and employ a sniper to put a hole in it from a distance.
The fascists, who control the government, industry, and the
corporations, cannot be defeated unless you employ a ’scorched-earth’ strategy. The entire infrastructure — the electical grid, the telecommunications network, and the transportation system must all be destroyed. You do not need explosives to do this; your tools include chainsaws, boltcutters, wirecutters, propane canisters, gasoline, tins of pesticide, rolls of copper wire, 100 foot power cords, and stolen vehicles.
Police Stations, Post Offices, gas stations, oil depots, schools, churches, businesses, industry, and even agriculture must all be shut down by any means available. Warn hospital administrators that they either remain totally neutral and allow no arrests on or near their premises or they will get shut down too. If a hospital cooperates, leave their boiler room and generator alone; they’re going to need them for a long, long time. If they betray you, shoot all the administrators and clerical staff. Tell the new adminstrators that you have plenty of bullets left for them.
When the military dudes start going AWOL en masse to go home to protect their starving, embattled families and defend them from the roving mob and from bandits, you will know your plan is working. Trust no one in uniform, and require deserters who come to join you to kill some of their old comrades, and if they refuse, execute them immediately.
This is where I would normally post a ‘happy face’, but this blog doesn’t offer that option.
July 27th, 2008 at 10:10 am
nikoli!
If the peseants grab their muskets and head for DC, to get the KING out of the white house, all the Administration has to do is put up a LARGE SCREEN TV just outside DC, and turn on American IDOL and 90 percent of the rioters will drop their weapons and pull up a chair. Revolution over… at least till the commercial
July 27th, 2008 at 10:16 am
Rich: the Revolution will not be televised, and neither will American Idol, because one of the first things the Revolutionaries will need to do is disable the communications network.
July 27th, 2008 at 10:23 am
RICH… you funny person…. commercials…. lol…
hope the commercials last along time….
*Gregory Fegel…….
you have good idea’s about this revolution…
i would do the same… we think alike…
good comment..
July 27th, 2008 at 10:32 am
Good stuff Gregory.
July 27th, 2008 at 10:33 am
Rich…I think you’re talking about the people who don’t have a clue what’s going on.
It’s a good joke, however. I must admit. And if we could get together and laugh these maniacal criminals out of power, I’m with you all the way.
The huge screen TV scenario would work on the brainwashed fools that you encounter at the grocery store and just getting out of church (headed over to Applebees for lunch and shallow conversations on topics such as the neighbor’s dog, who is “fornicatin” with my cousin’s wife, and the latest headlines(misrepresentations) on Faux Noise). Those who are ready to revolt, will not, however, lay down their weapons to watch anything, much less ridiculous, distraction causing, mind numbing reality television shows that feature ego maniacs such as Simon or drug and drink induced incomprehensible altered states females such as Paula.
After all, who wants to be alive on this shit hole slave planet run by corporate fascists? Be free or die. And not free to visit McDonalds or free to shop at Wal-Mart or free to chose one shitty job over another.
July 27th, 2008 at 10:36 am
@gregory Fegal – I understand your train of thought on police and such. I also used to feel that way. But now I’ve been preparing for the revolution with, of all people, Cops. Yes cops. Can you believe that cops are real people too? A lot of the police and sherriffs in my area are preparing for a UN invasion. They understand how our rights have been trampled. They too will be led to the FEMA camps. You can bet ur ass that they don’t want to be herded into death camps. So they prepare for battle. Yes their job will be to squash any rebelliion on their local level. But that’s where it gets interesting. They will be our moles on the inside and let us know if there is a mass scrambling of police units. See the NWO is counting on them to police us. But when the police stop taking orders and start ammassing an army against them, the NWO will send in a UN “peace” team. This is where we will band together, including citizens and police.
July 27th, 2008 at 10:47 am
FOLKS I am with you 100 percent! I do like to make a few tung in cheek jokes though! Lets not lose that guys. I can assure you I will be one in arms as well. Also I know cops around here that will come to our side, I also know cops with no common sence that will follow any and all orders not matter how ridiculous! I know cops that would drop a hammer on their mother if ordered to!
This fall guys there’s going to be a lot of people get killed! This fall is going to make MAD MAX, The Day After, pick your end of the world movie, look like a Doctor Susie book!
Hell I don’t really want to believe the stuff ALEX SAYS but it all coming true in spades!
Let all keep our powder dry, but lets lighten up while we have that luxury!
Rich
July 27th, 2008 at 11:12 am
Woe is me is me; the trials and tribulations are coming and are here. The scenario is right on brother. Bush and Obama and McCain are all on the same team. With Obama making the world circuit tour behind Brother Bush who just turned Catholic at the Vatican, the world is being set up for the Ezekie 38 war that starts the 7 year tribulation. King Williams is being given a crash course on how to behave for his 10 Kings when he steps into the AntiChrist EU World Government position. All the pieces are coming together and all we can do is be in the Word and Trust the Lord Jesus, riding this whole mass confusion out created by Satan who know his time is short. Very short.
July 27th, 2008 at 11:16 am
We will be in full scale nuclear war before a revolution can occur!
July 27th, 2008 at 11:16 am
Gregory, did you put this post on every discussion board on Prison Planet? I advise people to read his posts before commenting on them. He’s calling for killing anyone who works for the government, then he goes into a detailed plan about how to pull it off. We don’t need this kind of stuff on these boards. It’s not helpful and we don’t want it linked to Alex or any of us. It’s exactly the kind of thing they’re going to use against us when they start shutting down these sites. (If Gregory isn’t one of “them” he probably has feds at his door as we speak.)
July 27th, 2008 at 11:32 am
Gregory, are you familiar with KARMA? I believe it stands for Kill All Regime Memebers and Associate.
July 27th, 2008 at 11:33 am
Correction: …and Associates.
July 27th, 2008 at 11:34 am
Oh we need to just love, love, love. As Bono would say “Fuck the Revolution” oooooohhh i’m a ninnying little Heraldo the perfect “little twit”. lol..No serious… I today declare that i am going to go to Walmart and buy a box of ammo as a tribute the future… I encourage all my fellow patriots to go out and do the same. See if the ammo surge is reported by the media.
July 27th, 2008 at 11:40 am
This is off subject but we need to do our best to get Bob Barr in the presidential debates. I’m a Chuck Baldwin fan but realistically they absolutely will not allow him to participate. But Barr is a very good speaker so I think he would do well.
July 27th, 2008 at 11:40 am
Wow fegel, who scares me more? Bush, or you?
July 27th, 2008 at 11:47 am
Someone said it, so it must be true.
Alex and his minion sheep have been crying martial law, death camps and such hyperbole for 5 years (at minimum). But I’m sure this time it will happen.
July 27th, 2008 at 12:14 pm
By the content of all these posts I can see the possibility of things getting VERY nasty. I want to know if anybody out there has given any serious thought to what sort of society is going to be built on the ruins. Maybe part of the reason so few people are eager for a revolution is because they don’t know what will follow. If all we have to offer is patriotic fervor and religious platitudes then I think we should all be ready for a very long period of barbarism. All progress is likely to be lost (especially if we must annihilate all infrastructure) and America will be reduced to a wasteland of warring tribes tribes and factions no better than the worst parts of Afghanistan.
Keep in mind that some of the ideas that you now hold most sacred may turn out to be what got us in this mess in the first place. If you are not capable of the necessary self-criticism and sacrifice that a successful revolution demands, you should probably just stay in your armchair.
July 27th, 2008 at 12:28 pm
Settle down there James. There will not be a revolution. Heck, most of the truthers are too afraid to stop paying their taxes. They are afraid of jail time, yet they’re going to revolt!!?? They would rather keep funding (via taxes) an organization that they think is trying to kill and/or enslave them, after having killed 3,000 of its citizens, than deal with jail time. Truthers conduct a synthetic revolution; synthetic because they know the government won’t fight back against some stooges posting idiocy on a message board. When it comes to an issue on which they know the government WILL fight back (i.e. taxes) they cower to their masters and comply by paying taxes. They won’t revolt because, despite the hyperbole Alex Jones spews, the government has not come to their house to rape their children or imprison them. They hear Alex say it, but they don’t see it in practice. That, and their overall cowardness (keep paying taxes), will keep them at their keyboard fighting the revolution from the comfort of their computer chair and in the convenience of off-work hours.
July 27th, 2008 at 12:41 pm
Ihkhlh, if that is your real name: The camps were funded by a $360 million dollar appropriation to Halliburton last year. On of them is located at Ft. A.P. Hill in Virginia on Camp Cookie Rd. The internment camps where the Japanese-Americans were held, which had been a tourist attraction, are now again Federal Camps, offlimits to the public. I don’t know whether you are with the government or just a moron, but the evidence is there for anyone with half a brain to see.
July 27th, 2008 at 12:43 pm
ihkhlh! I know that you weren’t accusing ME specifically of anything, but I thought it might be reassuring to you to know that I do not pay taxes and have not done so for some years now. I agree with you. If people are not willing to take as simple and effective an action as not funding criminality they are complicit and, furthermore, if they speak of revolutuion they are FULL OF CRAP.
Sorry, folks.
July 27th, 2008 at 12:45 pm
REVOLUTION is the Solution!!!
July 27th, 2008 at 12:51 pm
Hey y’all. I’ve got a great suggestion on how people can avoid paying taxes and facing prosecution all at once. Simply drop out of the workforce. I think they call it a GENERAL STRIKE.
July 27th, 2008 at 12:54 pm
Gus! A general strike is a great idea. Besides exempting you from taxation it also provides a means of paralysing the infrustructure without physically destroying it. If only we could get people on board.
July 27th, 2008 at 12:56 pm
Impeach W NOW or U will suffer the never ending WARS and Marshall Law applied to U. Save the USA!
July 27th, 2008 at 12:56 pm
James Taylor…and EVERYONE ELSE HERE: Everyone thinks of these things. And most of us know what we don’t want. Understanding human nature is simple. Good people don’t want power. Only egomaniacs want and seek power and wealth. These are monikers of success in a faulty system, not a moral and just one.
There is also no real capitalism or democracy (even limited representative republic or whatever else they call this insane asylum) in this country. It’s a system of non-free, manipulated markets and controlled circumstances, false religions, brainwashing techniques (that obviously work on most people), and fixed laws that enable power to do as it pleases. If living in a culture means bowing down to power that is unjust, then death is better. If living in a culture means giving all your rights away so you can be safe, then death is better. If living as a slave, working for criminals who would kill us all of in an instant to make another few million dollars, is life, then I choose death.
And the “rule of law” these idiots run around talking about. What do you think that means? The rule of law is not for our so called leaders. The rule of law is for us and to us. The prisons are for us, not for them. It’s not our law or our rule. It’s their law and their rule. There is no justice for THEM. There is no Karma. There is no God they answer to. They only bring disillusionment, misrepresentation, and perpetuation of a world manifested by them and their marionettes in order to control us as a resource (to be manipulated and destroyed upon a whim).
A collapsing house of cards is already NO BETTER than a wasteland of warring tribes. I will fight for no one, but myself. If and when I decide to declare war, it will be of my own volition. All life ends in death and all death is certain. I would rather choose my own than sit in an armchair and wait for THEM to come round me up, release a virus, or bomb my home (which, unfortunately, could happen any time after next week).
There is no choice. There has never been a choice. The choice is an illusion. Taking no action isn’t a choice, it’s a demand from THEM. They want you to sit there and take it and take it some more. And when you’re sick of it, they’re going to push you and push you and laugh at you for doing nothing. And dare you to take any action. And even if we CAN organize, they will simply slither underground or to a remote island somewhere. Unaccessible, out of site, and safe and sound in their lairs. They’ve been preparing for this for years and we have not. They have the resources and we only have ourselves, our wits, and each other.
So let’s review…Unimaginable odds to overcome. Even if we do succeed, we will have to rebuild, so we’ll break our backs then also. The chance of death is immense. The chance we will make it through this is extremely slim. The chance that we will be injured or in severe physical pain is certain (from all kinds of stimulus from bugs to being shot at to being captured, imprisoned, and tortured, starving, dying of dehydration, sick from bad water or food, hiding constantly, tying to stay cool or warm, lack of creature comforts, lack of trust of those around us to NOT sell out, and on and on and on. And on the flip side to those trials and tribulations will be what? To sit here and let them kill us all off anyway? Hahahahaha! See, there is no choice.
The only other thing you can do is go multi-dimensional as a soul filled being and shoot off to another parallel universe just in the nick of time. But, alas, even if you or I could do that, or even if I figured it out and could teach it, we might be walking into a world that is even more insane than this one. Ponder that one for a few minutes. So fight and probably die, or sit and do nothing and probably die. It’s all up to you. All roads lead to death.
July 27th, 2008 at 1:03 pm
NEVER AGAIN!!
NO MORE WARS FOR ISRAEL!!!
NEVER AGAIN!!!!
July 27th, 2008 at 1:04 pm
You’re stupid Bill. Or intentionally obtuse…I’m willing to give you the benefit.
July 27th, 2008 at 1:06 pm
Gus, et. al.;
When are you guys going to quit talking about such things as a general strike and revolution on a message board and actually put it into practice? They killed 3,000 of their own citizens and are trying to kill and/or enslave you (just ask Bill). If havn’t struck or revolted after that, you never…ever…will.
July 27th, 2008 at 1:09 pm
I bet 95% of the Americans on this message board and in the “truth” and “the governement is evil and trying to enslave/kill me” movements obiendiently pay their taxes.
July 27th, 2008 at 1:11 pm
As I stated in a seperate comment on this site, it appears that the friday before inauguration, January 16, is a significantly strategic date for attacking Iran. Key Congressional activities likely planned for the 3rd of January will have time to materialize, and much of the public response will be minimized or marginalized in the ensuing confusion of accountablility so close to inauguration. I am still researching this and the possible ramifications concerning the expected transfer of power, or intended opposition to it. It seems rather imprudent to assume the attack would occur before they know the true voting heart of America, and therefore, logic favors a post-election attack. Of course, logic rarely factors into many of the decisions made by these globalist’s and wack-a-mole’s, but some times it is necessary to call them out anyway…it may even change their plans a bit.
July 27th, 2008 at 1:14 pm
well any help on this subjects would be great as I’ve been doing some background checks on Alex Jones and i know his radio satiation is owned by Genesis Communications Network and the owner of Genesis to my very very big surprise in the one and only Adnan Khashoggi ! as fare as I’m concerned Adnan had Pre knowledge of the attacks on 9-11-01 as for what this all means I’m not very sure but i don’t like the fact that Alex and Adnan are maybe working together??
below there’s a link to a little info on Adnan. I’m researching this matter further and maybe even as soon as i get all the facts straight on this i’ll make a call to the Alex Jones radio station to have a little talk with Alex on why he supports the fact the 9-11-01 was a inside job and he’s boss was has had Pre knowledge of the attacks on 9-11-01 Well…….. Lets just say something doesn’t add up here!
http://www.questionsquestions......i-911.html
AdnanAdnan”>Khashoggiinfo
July 27th, 2008 at 1:15 pm
Chuck! Wow! Your fingers must be tired! A lot of energy wasted on a cop-out. So, in a nutshell, your saying that individuals should remain in isolation fighting for their own survival while awaiting inevitable death. That’s a perfect wage-slave mentality.
Here’s the choice you say we don’t have. Organize with others, build the revolution, and stand up united for liberty and LIFE.
July 27th, 2008 at 1:23 pm
Ihkhlh, isn’t your shift at Northcom over yet? I see you stirring dissension and I don’t see you countering my argument with facts. What about the contract with Halliburton for the FEMA camps? Huh? Can you deny that happened, moron?
July 27th, 2008 at 1:27 pm
Ihkhlh! As for that strike idea, I’ve already walked out on my exploitative employer. Now it’s your turn. And don’t be afraid of unemployment, the plummeting economy will soon put you there passively if you don’t choose it actively.
July 27th, 2008 at 1:37 pm
Quit being stupid, Bill. Is your shift at Burger King over? Duh-huh.
July 27th, 2008 at 1:42 pm
Aaron Carl Perkins, what a load! GCN is owned by Ted Anderson and your post is a really amateurish and unconvincing example of disinformation. Either you don’t know what the hell you’re talking about or you are deliberately trying to deceive others. Either way, no one’s dumb enough to fall for that.
July 27th, 2008 at 1:46 pm
Bill;
Start thinking outside the “Alex Jones and some website told me, so it must be true” box please.
July 27th, 2008 at 1:54 pm
James Taylor:
First, you telling me I wasted energy on a cop out is a joke. How did I waste my time and why is it a cop out? Because you say it is? That’s like telling someone they’ve wasted their time planting a garden. Your comment makes less than little sense.
Second, you’ve already talked about organizing. And I’m not telling you to stop. It’s not for me. I’ve protested before. It doesn’t do anything. I will not follow you to the bathroom, much less to a revolution. And if you can actually organize ten people to do anything at a certain time, good for you. I don’t think I could. In general, it’s my decision, not yours. You do as you please with your life.
Third, your comment, “furthermore, if they speak of revolutuion they are FULL OF CRAP,” (revolution misspelled), is contradictory since you are talking about revolution and organizing and resisting. You are already taking actions that could be construed as revolutionary because you’re trying to live outside their grid by not paying taxes. Which is pretty hard to do since you cannot ever work at a corporation because they take taxes out of your paycheck every period. So that means you work under the table. You can actually hurt the infrastructure faster by obtaining a good credit score and then maxing out all your credit cards and never paying them. Hahahaha!
Fourth, your comment, “A general strike is a great idea. Besides exempting you from taxation it also provides a means of paralysing the infrustructure without physically destroying it. If only we could get people on board.” (infrastructure and paralyzing spelled incorrectly), So how many people would you have to organize to pull this off? Where as this may not be mission impossible, it is certainly mission difficult. Especially since 90% of the general public walking around don’t even see a world run by the Illuminati/NWO fuckers, much less why they would want to stop purchasing gas from those nice oil people at Exxon or stop purchasing toxic items made in China at Wal-Mart. So good luck with all that.
In fact, James, you have reinforced my beliefs that I am better off without you. So good luck with your organizing the resistance movement. I wish you luck. And believe it, or not, I have your back in more ways than you could know or understand. It is not my intent to argue with you or point out flaws in your thinking. I only ask you do your best in toppling these insane morons from the capstone of their pyramid. Anyway you want is cool with me.
And that goes for everyone else out there. Whatever action you can take is better than taking no action. It’s all up to you. Each and everyone of you. Even if it’s just smelling the roses more, or getting yourself in better shape, or purchasing survival supplies, or loving the one you’re with a little better. Just do your best. That’s all we have at the end of the day.
July 27th, 2008 at 1:55 pm
Better stock up on ammunition I suppose.
July 27th, 2008 at 2:01 pm
Check it out! The American revolution was a bourgeois revolution, and chances are if you are visiting this site that aint you. You shouldn’t be surprised at the abuses Americans are suffering today because the PEOPLES’ revolution has yet to occur. Anything resembling freedom in this country is a mere consession wrestled from the ruling class with protest. Remember, the Bill of Rights almost didn’t make it into the Constitution.
Down with representative government! Up with real particaptory democracy! Power to the people!
July 27th, 2008 at 2:03 pm
Quotation by Bill (the genius):
“What about the contract with Halliburton for the FEMA camps?”
At least tell me that you’ve stepped away from your keyboard and gotten out of your computer chair to confirm your suspitions, Bill. Show a credible source for this “contract.” Tell that you’ve at least talked to the involved parties or have other credible evidence that they plan to use them to enslave and kill Americans, et. al. Please tell me youve at least stepped out of your apartment to confirm your ridiculous statements instead of relying on an Alex Jones webcast or some website.
July 27th, 2008 at 2:08 pm
If the overlap between the interests served by the Republicans and those served by the Democrats weren’t so large, I’d be more afraid of a Republican coup. And while the people who profited most from the invasion of Iraq are unlikely to get an invasion of Iran from Obama, a president Obama is unlikely to do anything to spoil the goods times being enjoyed by the majority of America’s wealthiest and most powerful–i.e., the ones whose backing would really be needed to successfully pull off a coup.
July 27th, 2008 at 2:14 pm
Chuck! What a blowhard you are! A cop out is a cop out no matter how many words (even without typos) you use to defend it. By the way, I got out my dictionary and discovered you are right, I can’t believe I didn’t know how to spell revolution. Although I’m curious to see how you think infrastructure is spelled.
July 27th, 2008 at 2:25 pm
lhkhlh:
Your blog to BILL was unwarranted, We works at Wendy’s, and buddy when he says, ” do you want to biggie size that?” he ain’t talking about your order!
July 27th, 2008 at 2:35 pm
James…Not very thorough, are you? You spelled it with a “u.”
I copied and pasted your direct comments.
And the only cop out I will commit is when I take the cop out.
July 27th, 2008 at 2:35 pm
oAaron Carl Perkins wrote:
”owned by Genesis Communications Network and the owner of Genesis to my very very big surprise in the one and only Adnan Khashoggi !”
Well, if you do your ivestigation properly, you will find that there is actually at least two GCN’s out there. I belive one of them is a transport company.
Rune, Norway
July 27th, 2008 at 2:48 pm
Chuck! Who’s not thorough? My point is that you’re not criticizing my intelligence or my ability to spell, because if you go to my previous posts from earlier today (before my interactions with you) you will see that I spelled all of the words you mentioned correctly. You must think VERY highly of your keyboarding abilities. Perhaps that’s your only skill? But petty people are always quik to copp out as weeall.
July 27th, 2008 at 2:50 pm
Ihklhlh, maybe you should stop insulting people and start organizing a tax revolt. I’d be willing to not pay my taxes this year and send a letter to the government telling them why. It could be very powerful if we got millions of people to do the same thing, sending the same letter instead of their tax forms. It would throw a wrench into the system and hopefully get someone’s attention. (The letter could outline all the government run false flag operations we’ve been paying for with our tax money over the last fifty years–and how we won’t be accessories to crime anymore by paying for this stuff.)
July 27th, 2008 at 3:08 pm
Dave;
If you’re employed by an American corporation or an independent employer, you WILL pay your taxes…you have no choice. Your employer deducts your taxes before you even get paid. The exception is those who are self-employed or who make enough money to owe taxes at the end of the fiscal year. But that is rare amongst truthers, members of this message board, etc. For the record, I don’t believe what you likely believe. I happily pay my taxes because I don’t believe the government is trying to kill and/or enslave me. If I did believe that…I mean really, really believe it, not just relying on The Alex Jones show and the internet…I would absolutely and definitively not support them financially. As it is, I realize the benefits I get from paying taxes (military, FAA, FDA, student loans, etc.) and happily pay my taxes for such benefits.
July 27th, 2008 at 3:21 pm
erere! You HAPPILY pay your taxes?! And this because you don’t believe our government is trying to kill you. Would you deny that our government is actively involved in killing OTHER people (a high percentage of them children) throuhout th world? Do you happily fund the murder of those innocent people? You may be more of slave than you know.
July 27th, 2008 at 3:42 pm
Where did chuck go? I want to apologize. I did misspell “infrustructure” that ONE time. And, even tough I didn’t check, I’m certain there were no grammatical errors to be found in anything that chuck wrote. He most certainly knows how to spell infrastructure.
It is VERY important that we all make sure double check our spelling on all these posts.
Chuck dates police officers?
July 27th, 2008 at 3:46 pm
Ihkhlh, if you don’t believe me, moron, turn around and ask the First Sergeant standing behind you, private.
Erere, I read the article which was from a major newspaper. Why don’t you look it up on the Infowars site, or is that too much trouble for you?
July 27th, 2008 at 3:58 pm
Bill, quit being stupid.
July 27th, 2008 at 4:07 pm
To all you who say there has to be a revolution, you have to understand that it cannot happen until the masses are on their knees, i.e., hungry and homeless, because all would be revolutionaries have families to feed and bills to pay. Staging a revolution in the still relatively normal circumstances of today, while everyone is locked into the system, just ain’t gonna happen.
July 27th, 2008 at 4:08 pm
ERERE:
Speaking of taxes! If you own or think you own property, you have to pay the government to live there ie property taxes. SO you dont own it do you? You rent it from UNCLE SAM! Who’s living a pipe dream ERERE! And if you retire and are on a fixed income and they raise those taxes so high you cant afford to pay them they will kick you off that land and if you resisit they will kill you, then give it to the highest bidder/renter!
And if anyone thinks the gov. doesn’t have enough tax money you are a fool! If you add up all your TAXES, HIDDEN TAXES, FEES charges, ect I would imagine your average person here making 40-50 K is giving over half their salary to the gov in some form or fashion! Hell we use to have tea parties this sort of stuff!
I could go on and on about TAXES but it is apparent decades for Government Propaganda (PUBLIC SCHOOLS) has done more to make most of us stupid fools than the gov could of ever hoped for!
July 27th, 2008 at 4:13 pm
What the F is the matter with you people? The Infowars article is about Iran, election and Martial Law. NOT about nitpicking, ninnying and other WAY offtopic shit.
July 27th, 2008 at 4:15 pm
I am afraid sporidium is correct. Could you imagine what would happen if there was a revolution and 50 million amerikans didnt get there WELFARE checks???/ Could you imagine if millions didnt get their social security checks. What would miilions do without their daily DOSE/FIX of sothing GOVERNMENT propaganda piped into their living room every day
July 27th, 2008 at 4:16 pm
James Taylor:
So far today all you’ve provided are multiple reasons why no one will follow you.
If you want to know something about someone, why don’t you ask questions?
Yes, as far as you know (and let’s face it, that’s not very far) typing is my only skill.
So next, prove that you aren’t the idiot you seem to be.
July 27th, 2008 at 4:16 pm
hat the F is the matter with you people? The Infowars article is about Iran, election and Martial Law. NOT about nitpicking, ninnying and other WAY offtopic shit.
July 27th, 2008 at 4:22 pm
From the New York Times through the following link:
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02.....ref=slogin
“Halliburton Subsidiary Gets Contract to Add Temporary Immigration Detention Centers”
Quote from this article:
“KBR would build the centers for the Homeland Security Department for an unexpected influx of immigrants, to house people in the event of a natural disaster or for new programs that require additional detention space, company executives said. KBR, which announced the contract last month, had a similar contract with immigration agencies from 2000 to last year.”
“New programs?” Hmmm, what might these be?
July 27th, 2008 at 4:37 pm
Well there is good news about martial law; since we will not be able to purchase much from the slave labor of Red China, we will be more ably by from our own AMERICAN SLAVE LABOR. Man, think of all the money we will save!!! Zeig heil, comrade!
July 27th, 2008 at 4:45 pm
chuck! If you want a true confirmation of what an idiot I am and why no one (at least not in this ignorant and apathetic country) will ever follow me you need to read what I just posted under the “Do Not Name Names, Do Not Accuse, Do Not Say ‘Impeach’, Do Not Applaud” story. Then get back to me.
July 27th, 2008 at 4:46 pm
Erere, I guess I was stupid to expect you to look something up. So, Google “Halliburton million contract FEMA detention camp” and you will find all you ever wanted to know about them. Easy enough?
July 27th, 2008 at 4:52 pm
I just wanted to clarify something. There are many of you out there that keep saying something along the lines of our country having been hijacked by socialists/communists, or that we have become a socialist/communist country.
Because of your indoctrination and your quasi-religious blind faith in free market capitalism you cannot bring yourselves to admit that the capitalist system has failed spectacularly just as it was predicted it would. This is the capitalist nation par excellence and you need to own up to that if you truly want to find some solutions to all these problems.
Come on people, you cannot deny that this country was BUILT on slavery and pillage for profit. Show a time in this country’s history when this wasn’t true. Then as now, all the talk of freedom and liberty (at least that coming from the mouths of the profiteers) is hollow. It’s sad but it’s true, accept it. That doesn’t mean that the only alternative is soviet style totalitarianism.
For instance, some form of libertarianism has yet to be really tried. Once we finally appreciate what capitalism is we will no longer be able to support it on moral grounds and it will then make as much sense to say it is compatible with liberty and freedom as murder or theft are compatible with those ideals.
Ask not what you can do for you country, ask what your country can do for you.
July 27th, 2008 at 5:05 pm
There is nothing substantive here, tho we all suspect Bush of planning this. Websites do nothing to help their credibility by demagoging sensation. Please back up with some verifiable tapes, papers, other witnesses etc.
July 27th, 2008 at 5:05 pm
Rich and Bill, quit being stupid. (Intentional?)
Rich, when you buy a house, you don’t own the land, you own the house. You must pay for the property your house sits on. Jesus man.
July 27th, 2008 at 5:07 pm
Bill;
It’s on the internet, so it must be true.
Too funny.
July 27th, 2008 at 5:10 pm
Again Bill the obtuse;
Please show me your empirical evidence that led you to claim that they are planning to use those centers to enact a marshall law plan that would indiscrimately…and without cause…kill or imprison Americans or humans in general.
kthanxbye
July 27th, 2008 at 5:17 pm
Quotation by sporidium:
“To all you who say there has to be a revolution, you have to understand that it cannot happen until the masses are on their knees, i.e., hungry and homeless,”
Most of America’s poor have apartments, automobiles, cell phones, televisions and cable T.V. You want to see actual poverty? Go to one of thousands of tribal villiages in Africa. You poor dumb son-of-a-bitch. Not necessarily you, but all who think that our poor (with there plasma t.v.s and cell phone plans) suffer greatly. I’d like to grab their stupid asses and have them live in on of those African villiages for a year.
July 27th, 2008 at 5:18 pm
Chuck:
Yes, “We, the people” were the rich white land owners (many owned slaves and were Freemasons).
Yes, true democracy is a joke. The two party system is pathetic. Yes, “free market economics” or capitalism is bull shit. It’s really about control and manipulation more so than supply and demand.
And the big yes, all religions I’ve seen on this planet are false. They are merely tools used by the powerful to manipulate the weak, the poor, and to keep the masses ignorant and under control.
You don’t see any of the people who start wars being killed or injured in them? No, they usually make more money off the wars and many of the true marionettes play both sides of the wars. This has been happening for centuries.
“War and Peace,” by Tolstoy is a fantastic book about the European nobility, war, Freemasonry, the Illuminati, human nature, the idiocy of Napoleon I, and the men who followed him, how generals on both sides of conflicts spend at least as much time backstabbing each other as they do fighting the enemy, and how the Catholic church is a ridiculous contradiction (nothing close to what their “savior” wanted). This is not new information.
And finally, James, I have to totally agree with you here. This country has been run (in various times and in various forms) by criminals for much of its existence. And especially since Woodrow Wilson ushered in the Federal Reserve Banking system.
They control both candidates in THIS election as well. So if it’s canceled, who gives a shit? Obama is a member of the CFR. McCain is a member of the CFR. So billionaires for Obama or McCain.
But, I still will not follow you. Hahahaha!
July 27th, 2008 at 5:20 pm
James, if it were totalitarianism or facism, you’d spend the greater part of the rest of your life in jail merely for making your last post. Let me know when the stormtroopers come to kill your children and put you in a dungeon, then I’ll believe your spurious crap. Until then, use a little perspective.
July 27th, 2008 at 5:29 pm
Chuck! We started of badly, you and I. I’ve been reading some of your other posts and I have to admit you are one of the brighter people here. I was totally shocked by your response to my last post, I judged you to soon.
And although I don’t fully undertsand where you are coming from (is it resignation or apathy?) you should know that I don’t expect you to follow me or anybody else. Exactly what we don’t need in this world is more followers. Don’t give up on organization though, consider its hoplesness a challenge. Keep at it for kicks, that’s what I do.
I need to read some Tolstoy.
July 27th, 2008 at 5:38 pm
erere! Don’t you see? Everything is in place. What do you think all the preperation has been for? Why, for instance, the militarization of the police? We are a single incident away from the situation you describe, and that incident will be manufactured from within if it doesn’t come from outside.
The only reason we’ve done so well here in the belly of the beast for so long is because the rulers were prudent enough to keep their enemies out of their back yard. Now that the all markets and resources of the world have finally been depleted the vampires have no choice but to start sucking domestic blood.
No choice. Prepare for it.
July 27th, 2008 at 6:40 pm
It is my personal belief that when the government stops listening to We The People, We The People no longer have duty nor obligation to obey its laws, pay its debts or fight in its wars. Pass it on.
July 27th, 2008 at 8:31 pm
You people don’t get it…. Everybody connected to the political scene is a cockroach!
July 27th, 2008 at 8:41 pm
Oh dear… beginning to catch up with it now eh? And there were some of us predicting this long before (check your emails Alex from way back), no-one listened, same as the warnings given out about the UK Civil Contingencies Act and the Legitslatory Reform Bill too (we stopped that one dead)
But have you really considered the FULL implication of what Bush can do?
He declares an emergency, he has the power to dismiss both houses for the maximum six months, he has carte blanche over everything and can rewrite law by decree, he can issue decree abolishing the constituition, once he has issued the emergency declaration, he can literally decree the six month limit on house dismissal could be extended or even made permanent…
Here is a President who can create a situation that allows him to sign away your governance, your protection, your rights in ONE FELL SWOOP and still you do nothing, vainly clinging onto some saviour who may be riding over the hill hollywood style but in reality isn’t there.
This is a President whose great grandfather helped install Hitler into power, this is a President whose grandfather traded with the Nazi’s and whose family fortunes was made on the backs of the victims in Auchswitz and Belsen, this is a President whose family tried to install a Nazi dictatorship in the US in 1933, this is a President who comes from a family with more blood on its hands than any other in living memory, a product of fascist yearning, a man that has created a beginning of a fascist state in America and still you do nothing?
This is a President that will annihilate millions of people in Iran in an act of racist revenge, because they dared say no to the US, has already killed possibly a million or more to date in his administration, this is the President that will allow your veterans to die on the street whilst he dines on the very best, your loved ones to be denied medical aid whilst he is seen by the best the medical world can offer, President Bush will be A-OK and couldn’t give a rats ass if you lived, died, starved, as long as HE is ok.
We hear of the great Americans who seized freedom from Britain, who created a nation of justice, law and freedoms, a nation of birthright and peace and you all stood there and watched this happen, you got the government you deserved in your complacency, you will reap the reward your nation sowed as surely as the death and destruction it sowed around the planet for its own ends.
Don’t come cribbing to others when they herd you into those FEMA cattle cars, don’t come cribbing when the government flushed with its new power decides its far too expensive to keep people locked up and like the same regime Bush’s ancestors put into power, it will be seen as more expedient to just line you all up against a wall as a bullet costs less, far less than a prolonged incarcaration would…
Time is running out America, no-one is going to save you except yourselves.
July 27th, 2008 at 8:55 pm
Ancientone:
A agree, but I also add: the USA has been fascist since the Indian Wars, the failed Reconstruction, and the Spanish American War, which was, like the present war in Iraq, started with a false flag attack by the US government — on the battleship Maine on Havana Harbor.
In discussing fascism and corruption within the US government, the Bush Administration is both historically and numerically just the tip of the proverbial iceberg.
July 27th, 2008 at 8:58 pm
Gregory Fegel:
If you work for an employer, you have paid taxes the past 2 years. They take them out even before you get paid. Maybe you’re self-employed, but that is so rare that is unlikely you do. Otherwise, you have no choice on paying taxes. Your employer is compelled to withhold your taxes.
July 27th, 2008 at 9:08 pm
2553245: Unless you’re Walmart: “Loophole Let Wal-Mart Evade $2.3B in Taxes” Michelle Chen, The New Standard, 4/18/07
http://newstandardnews.net/con.....tmide/true
July 27th, 2008 at 9:12 pm
Obama is not the person people think he is. That Republican kook is also a front man for the Ziofascists. Obama is learning how to suck up to the AIPAC people and do their bidding. McCain is an old hand at it.
Even today, so-called progressives among us taint the truth with their belief that 9/11 was simply a hijacking. Of course there were bombs in the building. How else could it burn for a month?
The persistent falsehoods inherent in the Official Explanation are obvious evidence that the government directly participated in and coordinated the attacks. The government has pushed the first story and no other, no matter how disproved they are.
No point waiting around for the big fight that’s coming. Neither candidate will be willing to address 9/11 conspirators in our midst, among us, who will continue on in the highest levels of government.
Time to take it to the streets.
July 27th, 2008 at 9:48 pm
The 10 big media boards’ members also sit on corporate boards. Just another reason why it’s called Corporate Media nowadays.
New York Times: Caryle Group, Eli Lilly, Ford, Johnson and Johnson, Hallmark,
Lehman Brothers, Staples, Pepsi
Washington Post: Lockheed Martin, Coca-Cola, Dun & Bradstreet, Gillette,
G.E. Investments, J.P. Morgan, Moody’s
Knight-Ridder: Adobe Systems, Echelon, H&R Block, Kimberly-Clark, Starwood Hotels
The Tribune (Chicago & LA Times): 3M, Allstate, Caterpillar, Conoco Phillips, Kraft,
McDonalds, Pepsi, Quaker Oats, Shering Plough, Wells Fargo
News Corp (Fox): British Airways, Rothschild Investments
GE (NBC): Anheuser-Busch, Avon, Bechtel, Chevron/Texaco, Coca-Cola, Dell, GM,
Home Depot, Kellogg, J.P. Morgan, Microsoft, Motorola, Procter & Gamble,
Disney (ABC): Boeing, Northwest Airlines, Clorox, Estee Lauder, FedEx, Gillette,
Halliburton, Kmart, McKesson, Staples, Yahoo,
Viacom (CBS): American Express, Consolidated Edison, Oracle, Lafarge North America
Gannett: AP, Lockheed-Martin, Continental Airlines, Goldman Sachs, Prudential, Target,
Pepsi,
AOL-Time Warner (CNN): Citigroup, Estee Lauder, Colgate-Palmolive, Hilton
July 27th, 2008 at 9:55 pm
Dont expect anything to happen with the House resolution 333, since they numbered with an occult number 333 to show that the illuminati has its hands on this.
333 is just a veiled 666 for them, and if you study numerology you will see that those bastards often number their deeds with occult numerology such as 9/11 for 9 and 11. They also like using 22,33,27, 666 and many more.
July 27th, 2008 at 10:59 pm
Everybody has the ability to submit a revised W-4 to their employer, and claim up to 10 exemptions, which will effectively stop most of the taxes from being withheld. I filed my taxes a couple of weeks ago, but only because my daughter couldn’t get financial aid to go to college unless I gave them a copy. It’s good that I’ll be getting back more than I paid in…oh, that’s because the Additional Child Tax Credit is a refundable credit. Good thing, too, since I have to buy rations for all 5 of them. Hey, did everyone hear about the secret meeting that some members of Congress held back on March 13th? Old news to you maybe, but I just learned of it today. That’s what pushed me off the fence.
July 28th, 2008 at 12:27 am
You know what the scary thing is? I told my friends this would happen back in 2002 and they said the American public and Congress would never approve this. And the American empire will get too big for it’s brtiches, piss off the wrong country and the nuclear holocaust shall come.
“And the first seal was open and the first living creature said “Come.” And behold, I saw a white horse, it’s rider held a bow in his hands. To him was given a crown and he rode out as a conqueror bent on conquest.
The second seal was opened and the second living creature said, “Come.” And I saw another horse, a fiery red one. Its rider was given power to take peace from the earth and cause men to slay one another. To him was given a large sword.
The thrid seal was opened and the third living creature said “Come.” And, lo! A black horse. Its rider held a pair of scales in his hands and a voice from the alter said, “A measure of wheat for a day’s wages and three measure of barley for a day’s wages and see thou does not harm the oil or the wine.”
And the fourth seal was open and the fourth living creature said “Come.” And I saw a pale horse, its rider’s name was Death and Hades followed behind him. And to these fourth power was given over one-fourth of the earth to kill by the sword, famine, pestulance, and all the wild beasts of the earth.”
Four seals down, three to go, n’est-ce pas?
July 28th, 2008 at 12:36 am
I don’t see fascism; I see communism. And no, they’re not the same thing.
July 28th, 2008 at 1:42 am
Any “ism”, that removes individual liberty as spelled out in our Constitution, amounts to slavery. Whatever name you give it. Will
July 28th, 2008 at 1:52 am
Revolution? What revolution? People can’t go without their daily dose of the Simpsons let alone stock up for some revolution. They are more entranced with Porn Tube than stocking up on emergency rations.
Make your dwelling invincible? My lord. People… this isn’t mad max.
People are beyond sheepified.. If there was going to be a revolution don’t you think it would have happened by now??? Do you really think a war with Iran is going to change that? With all the sh*t that has transpired over the course of the past 8 years?
People still need their insatiable appetite for Dancing With The Stars. God forbid they miss out on Gary Coleman dancing with that hot chick from “Good Luck Chuck”.
July 28th, 2008 at 2:32 am
(((((( There were no planes on 911 ))))))
It is impossible in the real world for a plane to behave in such manner as per the official account. So long as you continue to deny that one simple concept you will forever be lost in needless pursuit of an answer that will never come.
If one seeks only that evidence which fits the official explanation, then that is what you will find. That’s not science, it’s not objective thinking, it’s not even good common sense. Contrary to NIST & the US Government, there is overwhelming evidence that the planes were the result of SFX TV fakery. Many try to suppress this obvious fact, but to exclude other theories out of hand w/o examination is to be foolish and only results in a misinformed, biased opinion.
Esoteric knowledge and symbolism aside, there were no planes entering the WTC Towers on 911. Perhaps all the related films produced before and since were made to condition the public into acceptance of the official “planes” fantasy.
Believing the government’s fairytale of planes colliding with the Towers is the main problem w/ fully understanding 911. The media was broadcasting fake, manipulated images of planes. Superimposing a plane on 911 was done w/ Wescam technology; it provided a single “live” feed from which all the TV networks broadcast. Other videos & images started to appear in the days, weeks & months following 911. All of them have anomalies & impossibilities which can only be explained by excluding planes.
Real planes would have been a potential liability for the perps on 911. It was easier to control the outcome of the event with much less risk by using the media to broadcast fake imagery. Real jets might miss their targets, get shot down, suffer pilot or computer errors, destroy or prematurely detonate any explosives, passengers could have overtaken the hijackers, and/or the plane might not inflict enough perceived damage to make a collapse believable.
A single fact which cannot be refuted is that a hollow aluminum plane (especially fragile wings) cannot slice through steel beams and concrete without any damage to the plane. News footage showing an airliner gliding into a Tower without any resistance is a cartoon. Aluminum planes are not built for impact and crumple immediately upon contact with solid objects; even a small bird can rip through a jet’s wing.
Furthermore, a large speeding jet’s vortex trails behind it creating a highly active atmosphere which follows in its path. Had a real plane impacted a WTC Tower, real film footage would have recorded the airliner’s vortex interacting with and violently dissipating the smoke from the alleged crash and the adjacent North Tower. No vortex literally means no planes on 911 (TV fakery).
During the South Tower “impact”, fake TV footage shows a WTC Tower sealing itself around the plane during the alleged penetration. Still another too incredible to believe anomaly is the width of the plane’s purported gash didn’t match the width of a Boeing 757’s wing span. Another widely publicized video shot by Scott Myers shows the forward fuselage of the “jet” exiting the South Tower, though other shots later reveal no exit hole.
To consider the media footage showing a plane slicing thru steel and concrete as reality is ludicrous. There were no planes; only spoofed images, manipulated witnesses and falsified evidence. America please wake up; the media was a complicit partner that was in on the crime from the beginning. In fact, the TV psyop 911 couldn’t have been pulled off without the mass media’s assistance.
Actually “no planes on 911″ is the only explanation that makes any sense. There are far to many disturbing questions left unanswered which only TV fakery can address.
Besides all the other impossibilities I mentioned, why are there several “hijackers” still alive; some are even suing the US government to recover their reputation and stolen identity.
Why have so many of the purported plane “victims” not been listed in the Social Security Death Index? …their families not claimed their death benefits.
Why are there missing passenger lists and zero so-called Middle Eastern hijacker names on the flight manifest?
Why in the entire history of aviation has a plane never disappeared from a crash – yet on 911, four of them did in a single day? All plane parts are numbered; not one plane part from 911 has been identified by its number.
How could supposedly inexperienced “pilots” who couldn’t even fly a Cessna…
* threaten and subdue everyone on board
* break into the locked cockpits w/ their hands
* kill all the pilots and copilots
…then navigate a large Boeing jetliner above the clouds all over several states without airport tower assistance, with nav systems & radios turned off, and fly with pinpoint accuracy into a building that they couldn’t even see?
Not to mention that a Boeing 757 can’t fly at 500+ MPH at sea level – the air is too thick. Call Boeing; even they admit that – and they have been recorded in phone conversations recently.
Exposing “no planes on 911″ is probably the most important story to people beyond chemtrails, depleted uranium poisoning and nanotech genocide.
Americans are TV hypnotized, drugged up, dumbed down and so utterly dependent that in general they are incapable of critical thought and are disinterested in discovering how the media is adversely affecting their lives.
No planes on 911 and deception by the media is the Holy Grail of 911. It marks the beginning of an Orwellian double-speak mind-set which is now accepted as normal by the populace.
No-planes on 911 is highly important as it exposes the real perps behind this mass murder and offers justice to the thousands of people killed that day.
Without the covert deception by the media in collusion with the enemy in control of America’s military intelligence, 911 could not have happened.
The media was directly involved in 911 and together with a criminal government has helped diminish Americans’ freedoms and launch unending wars against innocent nations.
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July 28th, 2008 at 3:26 am
Thank you, MuleShoe.
The real truth of 9/11 is that the complicity and premeditated participation of the media, the US military, the US government, the US intelligence agencies, the airline industry, the Military/Industrial Complex, and the Israelis runs so deep and involves so many hundreds of people in the perpetration, fakery, and coverup of 9/11 that it is obvious that the grip of fascism on the USA obviously cannot be remedied without a violent, French-style Revolution, including mass executions on the Washington Mall and aristocrats drug from their limos and mansions by the angry mobs to face the People’s Justice.
The cowardly and apathetic American people, unable to face this fact, wallow in their complacency and give an open or a silent nod to US aggression, Imperialism, and genocide abroad. A pox on them and their future.
July 28th, 2008 at 3:31 am
Mabus:
given the unlikelihood of Revolution by the pampered and brainwashed American people, the world’s best hope is for the complete economic collapse of the USA.
July 28th, 2008 at 3:48 am
erere, you dumb fuck, keep funding the war.
Do a little research yourself and quit asking everyone else to do it.
You have to be a disinfo or mole, because you can’t possibly be that stupid.
Why do you think they have so many new prisons built in the States considering they have more prison/inmates then anywhere else in the world.
Keep drinking the government Kool-aid you chump.
July 28th, 2008 at 3:56 am
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July 28th, 2008 at 5:39 am
Jereome said: “those bastards often number their deeds with occult numerology such as 9/11 for 9 and 11.”
I’m convinced that the 9/11 date has been deliberately chosen because of it’s intrinsic connection with the 9-1-1 distress call number. This is a very clever way to reinforce the association with fear, danger, emergency and distress. It’s a psychological trick to subliminally instill fear in the population so that they will give up their freedom for the false sense of security.
July 28th, 2008 at 5:56 am
This is not going to happen, this is a load of hogwash and if it does occur then and only then will I take this website and it’s truth movement seriously. IMHO. this is not even journalism I consider it tabloid ie. weekly world new’s junk.
July 28th, 2008 at 6:24 am
I think one of the reasons God is fed up with this country is due to the 5000 abortions that happen every day. This martial law camp stuff is a punishment for mans sins.
July 28th, 2008 at 6:37 am
Gregory, any form of violent “resistance” will absolutely fail, but only after hotheads on both sides pointlessly escalate things to terrible levels. Violence is the tool used with great success by those controlling the armed services and constabularies. You don’t put out fire with fire – you put fire out with water.
Satyagrhaha, of Truth Power, is immensely more effective, but much harder. It offers no indulgence of the baser instincts, it requires self-overcoming first, and it takes time.
From Wiki:
Satya is the Sanskrit word for “truth”; agraha means “firmness”. The two words combined may be rendered as “the firmness of truth.” The term was popularized during the Indian Independence Movement, and is used in many Indian languages including Hindi. It can also mean “truth force.”
Gandhi described it as follows:
“Its root meaning is holding onto truth, hence truth-force. I have also called it love-force or soul-force. In the application of satyagraha, I discovered in the earliest stages that pursuit of truth did not admit of violence being inflicted on one’s opponent but that he must be weaned from error by patience and sympathy. For what appears to be truth to the one may appear to be error to the other. And patience means self-suffering. So the doctrine came to mean vindication of truth, not by infliction of suffering on the opponent, but on oneself.[1]“
July 28th, 2008 at 6:57 am
thats the America we have all gotten to know and loathe.
July 28th, 2008 at 7:05 am
Publius:
Even Gandhi admitted that Satyagraha would not work against the Nazis.
Nor will Satyagraha work against the US government. Peaceful resistance and peaceful demonstrations do not work against a government which values force above nonviolence and regards peaceful protesters with contempt. The Viet Nam War was not ended by peaceful protests, but by the struggle of the brave, long-suffering, and resilient Viet Namese people, who lost 3 million of their countrymen driving the US aggresssors out of their country.
In 1970 I watched 30 nonviolent protesters get beaten down and sent to the hospital in Portland, Oregon, and from my perspective it was a useless, pointless exercise for the antiwar movement. You’ve probably never heard of those thirty people with cuncussions and other injuries, or the pregnant woman who was knocked down and then repeatedly kicked on the ground by police officers, have you? Of course you haven’t. It was a silly martyr’s game of “let’s place our heads in a position to have them cracked open by the cops,” — and almost no one remembers it.
The fascists in the US government and the ruling elite will not peaceably allow us to arrest, try and execute them for their perpetration of 9/11 and for more than a century of aggressive, unnecessary war. They will fight back. There is NO WAY we can defeat them or achieve any real or lasting change without meeting their violence with our own.
If you want to pretend to be Jesus or Gandhi, go ahead. But count me out of your childish and unproductive games.
July 28th, 2008 at 7:07 am
erere
July 27,2008 Dave;
I don’t believe what you likely believe. I happily pay my taxes because I don’t believe the government is trying to kill and/or enslave me. If I did believe that…I mean really, really believe it,
If you don’t believe what we do then why are you even here? Why get involved with people that have opposite beliefs that you do? I really don’t understand. If I have other thoughts than that of a website I visit, I don’t post or even lurk there. I think that you don’t belong here and have ulterior motives.
July 28th, 2008 at 7:09 am
Jerry Dixon:
Judaism and Christianity are the CHIEF CAUSE of US Imperialism,
militarism, and fascism. If and when it comes down to a fight,
synagogues, churches, and their assets will be PRIORITY TARGETS of the Freedom Fighters. Zionist Jews and Christians will not be welcome in the post-Revolutionary America, and Christian zealots will not be tolerated. This must happen, or our Revolutionary struggle for freedom and justice will have been a waste of time.
After the Revolution, there will be no place in the new America for Zionists. Period. Travel to and from Israel must be banned; anyone with an Israeli stamp in their passport must be expelled from the US or not allowed to enter in the first place. Plus all the synagogues must be closed and their assets confiscated. If the American Jews don’t like it, tell them where they can go. Agitation by Jews or Christians for their ‘rights’ should be punished with immediate deportation with no right of return, as well as confiscation of all their property of every kind.
July 28th, 2008 at 7:16 am
Hologram5:
I’ve noticed that several of the right-wing posters on this forum use monikers that are meaningless repetitions of letters or numbers, such as ‘erere’. They probably all work together at a Zionist call center in New Jersey.
July 28th, 2008 at 8:54 am
I’ve been noticing that neo-Nazis have come to dominate this board, with their usual paranoia against Jews and Latinos. Does Alex Jones or the 9/11 movement really want to be associated with Naziism? Isn’t that why we fought WWII, to get rid of the Nazis and their desire to obliterate freedom?
July 28th, 2008 at 8:54 am
People there is a good chance of this happening. They don’t pass bill’s like the one passed that gives the president the right to hault our elections for the fun of it. They have every intention of making this a reality. And if you read the bill it doesn’t even have to effect U.S. soil. It could be what ever they say is bad enough to qualify. Our rights are being trampled every day.Our system needs change. We as americans need to stand up to the families that have been running our goverment for decades. They are no longer civil servents and now it seems are family servents. We need a real leader. A real model for our goverment. We need to raise our children to be different. To learn and care about our history. And produce true leaders
July 28th, 2008 at 9:14 am
Didi Pontiac:
The Zionists are the new Nazis who want to ‘obliterate freedom’. The JudeoChristian Zionist ideology that controls the USA is the direct cause of US aggression, Imperialism, and fascism.
July 28th, 2008 at 10:15 am
Gregory Fegel:
A collapse is highly unlikely due to the nature of the bogus system in place. If it were to collapse it would have by now. We’re beyond collapse conditions already. It’s being artificially held together for some time now. We’re on this ride for some time to come and if Iran attacks happen it’ll just be icing on the cake with economic manipulation levers at full tilt.
Our only hope: The youngest generations of Americans. It will take a generation or two to undo the social programming that has been done. There is great emphasis right now on them. So much so that if you compare recent generations previous… well.. There just is no comparison. Just watch MTV for 5 minutes…
July 28th, 2008 at 10:18 am
Try googling Valero, the new oil business — who’s one of the top dogs in taking over all the oil companies and refineries in America.
Halliburton executives are on this BOD’s and a recent press released revealed the following …
http://www.bizjournals.com/san.....aily2.html
Valero Energy Corp. won a $46 million U.S. Department of Defense contract to supply fuel to the Israeli government.
The contract is being managed by the Defense Energy Support Center at Fort Belvoir, Va., which handles all bulk fuel purchases for the Defense Department.
Valero Marketing & Supply Co., a subsidiary of Valero Energy (NYSE: VLO), will supply the fuel by Aug. 13, 2008. The Defense Department did not disclose the amount of fuel that will be shipped to Israel.
San Antonio-based Valero is an oil refining and marketing company. The oil company owns and operates 16 refineries throughout the United States, Canada and the Caribbean with a combined throughput capacity of 3 million barrels of oil per day.
And I continue …
http://www.bizjournals.com/san.....ily22.html
Valero Energy Corp. has agreed to participate as a prospective shipper on the 500,000 barrel per day expansion of the Keystone crude oil pipeline system.
The pipeline, once completed, will allow crude oil to be transported from Western Canada to the U.S. Gulf Coast at Port Arthur, Texas.
Earlier Wednesday, TransCanada Corp. and its partner ConocoPhillips unveiled plans to increase the design of the Keystone pipeline to 1.1 million barrels per day by 2012. Once the project is completed, Valero anticipates being one of the largest recipients of heavy sour crude oil from this expansion project.
Anyone smell NAU ?
I’m sure if someone fleshed this all the way out, we’d have a nation boycott against Valero or should I say, Operation Zapata … You decide.
July 28th, 2008 at 10:24 am
Hey people, In many stories on Prison Planet, we have seen off duty police acting as supporters and causing trouble, in a effort to discredit the anti-globalism movement. Could we expect no less here?
I’d say most of the “neo-nazis” comments are made by undercover agents, in order to prevent growth of the support of Alex Jones and the like.
July 28th, 2008 at 11:33 am
Hey…!!!!
When this does not happen (cause it wont)…whats the next thing ya’ll are gonna fabricate?
When this does not happen, will any of ya’ll have the balls to come on here and say “I was wrong”?
Just curious…
July 28th, 2008 at 1:02 pm
Dear readers,
Hello!
I am absolutely amazed that among 7 billion
population on this prison planet, nobody can deduce
the truth of Islamic regime in Iran.
Look here, in a nutshell, the world had and has only
one unique “government” that plays all the cards.you
can call it Illuminati or whatever. when they
decided to end the military-industrial wars between
eastern and western blocks in the mid 70’s,they
planned to create a TERRORIST HUB in the region to
continue with the role of the soviet union in
another guise.
What really happened is that they created an eastern
enemy in the beginning (Russian revolution) to
reach these two goals:
1- Creation of Ordo ab chao, that is ,to force all
the eastern countries and all the western countries
gather in 2 united blocks, the west and the east.
The role of soviet union was to confront Europe and
USA and strenghten the huge military-industrial
complex to create the world’s first superpower
capabilities in the USA.After the soviet union role
was fulfilled in the end of 70’s , there came the
time to unite the now united east with united west
under one umbrella and there were no need for more
super power capabilities because it now existed in a
huge complex.
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Now the final stage shall take place and that is
when the superpower capabilities were completed,
then it is necessary to strenghten the NATIONAL
SECURITY sector , that is , to create the final
scene in terms of seizing all levers of power and
declaring a martial law and global dictatorship by
criminalization of each and every citizen.In this
stage you see at least 16 USA national security
agencies working together.
Now what you need to create this status as you did
in case of soviet union? a HUB in the middle east to
terrorize and demoralize the world and specially the
USA citizens.THAT IS the role of the islamic
republic in Iran.
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Remember 2 years before Iranian revolution , Muammar
Qadhafi with CIA financing, produced the movie ”
Mohammad Rasoul ollah” starring Anthony Quinn that
showed Islamic movements come forward and conquer.
befroe the Iranian revolution, Muammar Qadhafi aided
by CIA money,bought Cassius Kelley the Boxer to
change his faith to Islam and become Mohammad Ali.
Then 1 year before the revolution, there was a big
promotional theatre about the world boxing champion
ship and all the middle east watched as the “Moslem”
boxer knocked down the “American” one.And of course
do not forget that in the coming years, the Rocky
serial movies all were preparing the world for the
same theater and this time the “American” knocked
down the “Russian Bear” and predicted the soviet
down fall in the 80’s.
Please just think! The Iranian IMAM Khomeini is
promoted widely by the British BBC, settles in a
nice Paris suburb to meet all the press and give
false promises to every body, and then flies to Iran
in a French plane , gets on an American Chevrolet
Blazer and heads to cemetery!!!
Don’t you see what has happened? Iranian regime (
simultaneously with Saddam Hossein and Taliban in
Iraq and Afghanistan) was the substitute for the
soviet dissolution but this time not to strenghten
the military power but to create too much terror to
make grounds for USA police state and EU
dictatorship which will be declared very soon
indeed.
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To affirm my opinion , just think that this IMAM (
meaning a religious leader) from the start had
nothing to do with the religion and instead of
talking about the religious matters was always
shouting against the USA and Israel and so on and
spending the country’s oil money for terrorist
activities in the region.He was just a puppet of the
Illuminati and shadow government in the USA.
Don’t you see that Iranian regime has been in great
crisis and tribulation everyday since its advent 30
years ago?
Don’t you see that USA threats are going on for 30
years and NOTHING HAPPENS AT ALL?
Please come to your senses and do not forget that
all political matters going on in the world are
controlled by one and only one center.(You can call
it Anti-Christ,Illuminati,Dajjal or whatever.)
Thank you and goodbye.
July 28th, 2008 at 1:05 pm
Well ,If it doesn’t happen, i’ll say whew! that was a close one.
We aren’t alone on the website. There is always the posibility that false information could be given, to make Alex to make him look bad, or the people who run the world change plans depending upon what is being reported. The purpose of prisonplanet.com, infowars.com etc. is NOT to predict “next thursday at 7:15 am go into your bunker and prepare for Armeggedon”. I feel it is to inform everyone about the chipping away of our freedoms, and to educate the public “Police officers included” so they can vote for people who wish to make a change or run for office themselves.
July 28th, 2008 at 6:24 pm
Unfortunately, America becomes a breeding ground for neo-Nazi racist losers and you can read their silly posts here.
If these losers start the so-called revolution, I will pray that they fail.
July 30th, 2008 at 3:20 pm
It’s a NeoCon bluff, to declare martial law if impeached.
Call that bluff, and raise them a SWAT raid on the White House, by DCPD, FBI, National Guard and/or US Army and Marines.
Imagine the White House looking like the Davidian Church in Waco/Crawford Texas? Bushes’ British royal family already burned down the White House in the War of 1812.
So what if they call martial law? That will just wake up more sheeple, and force cops and soldiers to decide which side they’re on. Bring it on.
August 2nd, 2008 at 7:24 pm
I see one problem that some people responding to this is they have trouble differentiating between Jews, Isrealis, and Zionists. That’s like saying if someone was born in Isreal, they should be denied to enter the US. That smacks of the fascism that is ripping the world apart at the seams. I do not support the Zionists by any means, but there are many Jews that are not Zionists and many Isrealis that are not Jewish. As for deporting them if they want to stand up for their rights to religion, what if they were BORN in the US…can’t deport someone from their country of origin.