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Iran Missile Test Bluff: Old Rockets, Bogus Video
Drudge Report
Saturday, July 12, 2008
Many of Iran’s claims related to missile tests during “Great Prophet III” war games — appear to be smoke and mirrors!
The missiles tested DID NOT not have 2,000-kilometer range, the NEW YORK TIMES is planning to report on Saturday.
Iran DID NOT launch a Shahab-3 missile, able to reach Israel.
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It was an older missile that was out of production, newsroom sources tell DRUDGE.
And a video showing what appeared to be many missiles being fired — is actually one missile, filmed from different angles!
NYT’s Bill Broad is planning to quote military insiders.
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July 12th, 2008 at 3:25 am
I think that Ahmadinejad did it again! He already showed he can use the media as a weapon. Remember the humiliation the empire had to suffer when he treated the 15 young pirates captured in iranian waters as human beings and finally, and as an act of superiority, gave them freedom (and lots of shame)? This guy is not as stupid as the empire want us to believe. The message he sent by so evidently “doctoring” the pictures was: “I’m not dangerous, It’ll be hard for you to convince somebody else to join your crusade” but at the same time he showed power on the eyes of his own citizens… Remember, the weaker Iran appears on the eyes of the western brainwashed public, the harder is going to get for the empire to sell them a campaign against Iran. That’s the sense of showing 2 pictures and very clearly “doctored” from the same scene. I really do not believe he’s going to allow anybody to just stand there and take a picture from his real missiles taking off, do you?
July 12th, 2008 at 7:31 am
Personally, I believe they released this doctored footage on purpose. When the Western media discover it to be a fake and laugh, it is harder to see them as a real enemy. Iran has learned from the best liars and propagandists- our own government.
July 12th, 2008 at 11:29 am
Alejandro
Leave it to the likes of Faux news and the Wall Street Journal to fabricate consensus for pre-emptive war. They did it to us once and we re-elected the scum responsible. Many still defend their actions and their pre war reasoning. I still find faux watchers who still think Saddam was involved in 9/11 and that AQ was all but running Iraq before the invasion.
As stupid and gullible as the American public has proven itself to be, I would not put anything past them. They’ve already toppled 2 democracies to promote democracy and have installed a dozen dictators to promote freedom. As hard as it is for me to say this, but I have to accept the facts. America must be destroyed before we destroy the world.
July 12th, 2008 at 11:49 am
Iran does not want War..Ahmadinejad’s heated comments about Israel were taken slightly out of context. He despises the Zionist Regime but not Jews in general. If it weren’t for the plight of the Semitic Palestinian people over the past 60 years this situation would never have occurred in the first place.A large population of Jews live peacefully in Iran with full religious freedom. Ahmadinejad even met with Rabbis who oppose Zionism. This is hardly what you would expect from a true Anti-Semite. This information is of course of little mention in mainstream media.
July 12th, 2008 at 11:41 pm
I thought Alex Jones & Co were about exposing corruption. However, I see that the people who post comments are a bunch of religious nuts. You christians are the reason the evil people running things have run amuck! You have the explaining to do, not people like me. Lest we forget, dubya was given 2 terms by people like you. Religion is the ultimate mind control that you speak with such disdain. Just look at the most religious parts of the world. The people of those countries always adore and embrace brutal and cruel leaders. Don’t you see the similarities? You believe in all these other conspiracies but you won’t question the chief conspiracy? Religion, at it’s heart, is totalitarian. If there is and end of the world around the corner, you have brought it upon yourselves.
July 13th, 2008 at 1:56 am
Found an interesting website the other day – worth checking out what the real orthodox jews think of zionism, the holocaust and the SOCIALIST state of israel among other things:
http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com
Another interesting article I came across with:
http://www.reuters.com/article.....0120080314
This one’s about jews in Iran who have nothing to complain about -and this is mainstream news…
July 13th, 2008 at 3:32 am
I agree with Jay from Michigan. I am from Europe but I follow closely the growing movement about conspiracy for 9/11.
Well, the question I have, is , are there some serious movements towards bringing the responsible person of 9/11 to Justice??
July 13th, 2008 at 6:30 am
Mike: “are there some serious movements towards bringing the responsible person of 9/11 to Justice?”
Depends on what you mean by “serious”, I guess.
Well, I’m from Europe too – and to me it seems as though it’s now up to the American people – a nation wide grassroots movement is required – call it a revolution or whatever – but the establishment isn’t going to do anything about it – yet the worst thing about it all is that the time is running out very soon.
July 13th, 2008 at 11:38 am
manbearpig and mike – Yes there is a growing movement here in the states. Unfortunately, the majority of the people here only continue to find fault with each other rather than the real perps who created this atmosphere in the first place. We are stupid and gullible and completely live up to our reputation world wide. Yes, ALL the otrocities in this world can be blamed on the US and their interests. But half of that is our own fault for allowing it to happen. When people are preoccupied with sports, anti-smoking, pretending to be like Howard Stern, and having a different color president, do you really expect anything more than from them? We have been re-programmed to such a point that nothing can leave your mouth here in the states that doesn’t get quickly scrutinized with a harsh reminder that you need to get back in line and shut up. I love this country. Unfortunately the people here are making it a miserable place to live.
July 13th, 2008 at 12:33 pm
Jeff – Americans aren’t any more stupid than the Europeans – yes, we may be more educated on average, yet we’re more conditioned too.
I gave up watching TV about a year ago and it’s sad to see how people with TVs just live in another reality – no matter whether they’re more or less educated – it’s a media bubble they live in. And mind you that I’m now talking about Finland – the country with “the best school system in the world”. Well, you know how it goes – garbage in – garbage out – and you have a specialized serf with a degree at your service…
July 13th, 2008 at 2:27 pm
manbearpig – I suppose the ’sickness’ is an international one at that. But the US and it’s people are supposed to be flagship for opposing tyranical leadership and fighting for our own freedom…not someone else’s. Somewhere along the line we were lulled into behaving like little wimpy pricks who do nothing but pick each other apart. We don’t talk anymore. Our lips move but we say nothing. We mouth meaningless words and phrases. We have been split into fragmented groups who oppose each other at every level. Our reputation has fallen to the level of third world powerlessness over it’s own government. Our constitution is being dismantled right before our very eyes. If you bring that up in conversation, you get called names….partly because this is how we now communicate with one another but mostly out of ignorance. I’m with you on the subject of TV. Almost 3 years for me. It is most definitely like taking the red pill…a rude awakening to the world as it really is.
July 13th, 2008 at 3:36 pm
Jeff – a bit off original topic – but I just finished watching a LaRouchePAC documentary named “1932″ on their website. A connecting-dots-type-of a history lesson about how the US has always been fighting the British oligarcs and their NWO/neo-imperialism. Worth checking out, if you haven’t already.
July 13th, 2008 at 6:51 pm
manbearpig – Interesting doc. And although it validates the theory of British intergenerational planning, it cheerleads for an American form of facism which was hatched by FDR’s New Deal. The FDR era further gutted the founding principles and at an accelerated rate. The depression made that possible which is admitted to be orchestrated for that reason alone. No discussion of the New Deal particulars and FDR’s gold confescation executive order. Gold at every level was confescated and turned over to the Federal Reserve (private instution) in return for paper money with no intrinsic value. For that matter, no discussion whatsoever of the air of anti-war in the US at the time and how the only way to draw us into WW2 was to stage a 911 style event. Ironic, isn’t it? And anyone that memorializes him as the one person responsible for turning the country around, either doesn’t know history or supports a socialistic/communistic form of gov’t. My distrust lies with the publishers of that website.
July 14th, 2008 at 3:22 am
Jeff – although the new deal had socialist and even fascist elements in it, I must say I don’t see it quite the way you do. I’m more with LaRouche on this issue, though I do admit there are holes in the theories of LaRouche as well.
Now, I’ve also learned a lot from Ron Paul in the last 9 months or so – just as I’ve learned a lot from LaRouche – and I feel the “truth” is there in between the two somewhere.
See, as much as I like Ron Paul and his ideas too, his solutions are not totally risk-free either – as he is just as idealistic about certain things as is LaRouche. Then again, that comes with the job of a politician, I guess.
Frankly speaking – I find all theories out there imperfect – including A. Jones’ – but as you probably know, we all have to make our own conclusions from what we know and from what we believe to be true.
Yes, the 1929 crash was orcestrated – just like the current one is – and the plan was to turn US into a fascist dictatorship. But did FDR know that, let alone understand the relations between the two issues? I don’t know and perhaps I just need to dig in the issue more.
Yes, the new deal may have prolonged the depression as well and it may have given the fascist a chance to further their agendas too, but as you know, the plan “A” (the coup d’etat) was prevented by a general – I think it was – and FDR. Now, if FDR was playing into the hands of the fascists, he would not have prevented it, would he?
And yes, Pearl Harbour was orchestrated too – to certain degree – however, did FDR see it that way, let alone understand that this was the case at that specific moment?
I don’t know – I only know that politicians – even the president of USA – isn’t always told everything. He is constantly beeing “adviced” by a group of people he trusts – more or less – and well, sometimes – if not always there are people that in reality work for someone else than the president or the US.
And here is where the LaRouche people have done a great job – they’ve exposed so many “British agents” that it’s no wonder that the elite doesn’t like him and that there’s so much disinfo about LaRouche in circulation.
So, I don’t think FDR trully understood that he may have been used by others – and especially on the “plan B” (Hoover taking over after FDR’s death). FDR was just too naive as he believed that after the war US could go back to – more or less – normal.
But it was Hoover who then prevented that from happening – and even about Hoover I’m not sure that he understood how he was being used by others – let alone knew who these people ultimately were that were pulling his strings.
Anyway – I think most politicians just don’t know what the f**k their doing – for their too busy to worry about their image, career, re-election etc. rather than worrying about important issues – and this is why they’re easy game for lobbyists and big money especially.
Anyhow – despite the fact that the 1929 crash was created on purpose – and despite even the fact that WWI and WWII were both orchestrated too – and all by the same people – they still happened and something had to be done, right?
Wilson was – as LaRouche says – a british agent – but FDR – most likely wasn’t. FDR may have been a naive idealist – with a semi-socialist mindset – but I don’t think he worked to further the British agenda. He simply thought he had everything under control – which is another “illness” politicians often suffer from, especially when they’re in high places like that.
So, I believe he simply felt that something had to be done – A) rebuild America with the New Deal – and because the capitalist fascists weren’t obviously going to do that – quite the contary – and B) prevent Hitler from taking over the whole planet – ’cause that would have meant the fascist would have won in the end, wouldn’t it?
So, the point is – in my opinion – that this Anglo-Dutch oligarchy needs to be destroyed before anything else comes even remotely possible. And while the New Deal ultimately prevented the fascists from taking completely over once – it might do the same this time as well.
I realize there are risks with such an arrangement – just like in the 1930’s & 40’s – but as LaRouche points out – the New Deal was exactly the opposite to what the Wall-Street/London fascists wanted then – and it’s something they don’t want today either.
To completely strip down goverment(s) – and as Ron Paul basically suggests – and which is taking place all over Europe already – at a point when the whole world is coming down – “at the speed of free fall” – would cause unprecedented global chaos – and that’s exactly what these oligarchs want, isn’t it?
It would be the ultimate “catalyzing event” which would justify a global marshall law under UN & Nato – and which then would result in the new world order they’ve been after for soooooo long.
But ok – enough’s enough – at least for now…
July 14th, 2008 at 5:07 pm
manbearpig – Well…it looks like it’s just you and me in here. And I’d just like to make something clear before I ramble on. I’m by no means an expert on American history. I’ve taken however the few bits and pieces of info I have and draw my conclusions accordingly.
I tend to look for the things in which are hidden in plain view. The makers of that doc seemed to conveniently omit facts about FDR that would reveal his unpopularity at the time with the American people. The documentary did point out how the American people, paralyzed by poverty and battered beyond belief were sitting ducks for a Britished backed coup of Wall Street. So using that logic, couldn’t FDR (driven by a similar faction) begin his tear down of the founding principles? Yes…it was ‘other than British’. But to whom did it benefit in the long run.
If you only glance over the Nazi take over of Austria and other countries of the like, weren’t those people desperate for just ANY change as long as they could be put back to work. Hitler Did just that and within weeks unemployment numbers decreased and prosperity returned. We know that the Nazi’s were funded by not only the British, but the Americans as well.
If what you are saying is correct about FDR’s advisors, then isn’t it possible that FDR just happened to walk into that one? Let’s face it, he didn’t come up with all that stuff on his own. He may have meant well, much like Ron Paul means well. But he could have just been puppeteered into this New Deal thing which pretty much was the middle of the end of the US as we knew it.
I’m attempting to point out a couple of things here. First, I was riding along in stride with the flow of that doc. It seemed to be building up to a point and indeed it did. But what I was waiting for was some real unbiased facts about what I’ve already read about FDR and they completely left them out. Gold confescation was a precedent that was set during this era and it is actually still in place today. It was incorporated to increase the value of gold and it actually decreased the value of the dollar. The point is that FDR, or whoever, recalled the entire nations’ gold supply and turned it over to the Federal Reserve. The Federal Reserve is a British based banking system…from what I’ve read. There was some incredible and unbelievable facts about the New Deal that weren’t even touched upon…like destroying food on an already starving country to control the affect of supply and demand on inflation. Without getting into too much detail, these facts can be easily researched. All I’m saying here that the entire report appeared to be unbiased up to the point where they discussed FDR. I thought that was kind of peculiar.
The second point that I find interesting about the FDR era is how it paralelled that of the Nazi’s. There are even reports where FDR would confide in Hitler on his economic strategies. I’m simply trying to point out the pattern here. This pattern is one of historic knowlege and is repeated over and over in communistic dictatorships. It’s problem, reaction, solution that A. Jones often talks about. It just so happens that FDR walked into the solution. With that sort of logic Hitler was a hero for a short time. Heck, he was a hero for the entire time according to those who were loyal to him. And the loyal ones weren’t limited to his henchmen. They were the many who were put back to work as well.
I’m just a little leary of anyone who leaves out so many facts. Yes, the A. Jones’s and others like him leave things out to make their points. but not at the level the this doc does. That whole FDR bit could have been lopped off that doc and it would have still made a complete sentence.
And the pattern continues. The influx of immigrants to the US is at a most alarming rate. They are illegals and our leaders don’t seem to give two shits of that fact. Only this time it looks like they are going to get it right.
July 15th, 2008 at 3:39 am
Jeff – I’m no expert either – but then again being an expert in todays world doesn’t necessarily mean much, does it?
Still it’s interesting to see that with fairly different backgrounds more and more people are coming to the – more or less – same conclusion – that there is a big-time conspiracy going on – and in most cases the fingers point the same direction.
Unfortunely – it seems – that nobody has a perfect picture of it -yet I’d be suspicious too if someone did – and naturally it’s extremely frustrating when you just can’t be sure on certain matters.
You could be absolutely right on FDR – as I wrote, LaRouche has holes in his theories just like everybody else. But history is a funny thing – everybody sees even the facts differently – besides you can never be absolutely sure whether the facts presented are true or not.
But I think comparing FDR and Hitler is a bit absurd – FDR didn’t stage a reichtags fire to become a dictator + FDR at least tried to rebuild the country – Hitler on the other hand rebuild his country with debt money and with debt money only – only to destroy it again and along with rest of Europe.
And about the confiscated gold – well, I do understand it was wrong in many ways – but frankly speaking – I don’t quite get it. Why is it that gold is of such importance – is it really so that a financial system can’t exist without it – or is it perhaps, because the system based on gold is also a creation of the same oligarchs that created the fiat system?
I mean the fact is that the biggest owners of gold today are the Vatican, the international banks and the royalties of Europe – so going back to the gold standard would mean no significant change in terms of who runs the show, would it?
What we need – I think – is a new grass-root type monetary system of somesort that everybody understands – so that no one gets to misuse it and at least not in a big scale – and which is the case today – and a system which gives equal opportunities to all. Sounds pretty abstract, but then again agreements of that nature always are.
July 15th, 2008 at 3:01 pm
Manbearpig – Funny, I get the same reaction over here when I make comparisons between the Nazi pattern that our country has been chronically following since 1913. I just happen to think that it is part of a master plan and that the funding of Hitler was one of those experimental trashing of a different country…or rather Europe. The slow erosion process in my view had to be undertaken since we have always admittedly been a major economic power, let alone a military power. I don’t think that any ONE president had such decisive power to turn the country upside down and shake it. But I do think that there were a few presidents, that without them, the master plan would have been stalled. You seemed to be saying that FDR was responsible for stalling the agenda. Where I’m am saying that he accelerated it. Interesting discussion nonetheless.
I guess if I were to try to sway you over to my side, I would ask that you took a good look at the New Deal. My only knowlege of the New Deal came from Wikepedia. I obviously wasn’t there at the time, so I have no first hand knowlege. But from what I read in what appeared to be primarily factual, I drew my conclusions.
Now if FDR didn’t stage a Reichstag-like event, he certainly can be a key figure in the admitted staging of the attack on Pearl Harbor. A war was much needed for his plan to work. Everybody is aware of that. But what most people aren’t aware of is the anti-war sentiment in this country on Dec 6th, 1941. There was a powerful resistance to becoming involved in the war at the time and the only way to gain that public support, as in the US pre-involvement in WW1, was to stage an event that ‘hit home’ with the American people. Where I strongly disagree with you on this is not on the outcome, but the striking similarity of the intent of both Hitler and FDR. The Reichstag was used to attack Poland, Pearl Harbor was used to attack Japan. So even though there are distinct differences in the outcome, the motive of deception was there for both. I just cannot put my trust in any leader that would go to those lengths to ‘rebuild’ a country.
Just look at what we have today as a result of the New Deal. We have pretty much authorized a gov’t to be by the gov’t, for the gov’t, and of the gov’t. It is extremely important to remember that this unequivically was in direct conflict of our founding principles. And a desperate people were coerced in allowing this to happen. I still stand on my assessment of the FDR era, that if it weren’t for this transition of removing the gov’t from the hands of the people, we would NOT be in this mess today. It has done nothing but create a dependence on gov’t and an unprecedented trust that the gov’t will make everything ok. This trust and dependence has redfined ‘patriotism’ and it rings in our ears here on a daily basis. Patriotism is now defined as a measure of support for your gov’t, not what you are willing to do to protect the US constitution from all enemies foreign and domestic. Say that in a group of people over here and they will look at you like you just passed gas.
July 16th, 2008 at 2:28 pm
Jeff – I obviously need to do some research on the matter and in fact, I already looked up for some websites dealing with the issue – and eventhough Hustler, J. Edgar Hoover and W. Churchill among other quoted sources won’t quite convince me right away, it sure deserves some further studying. I smell a rat in there alright, but I’m not sure who’s rat it is.
It’s been interesting discussing the issue with you – I already thought having a civilized debate here wasn’t even possible…
July 16th, 2008 at 3:11 pm
manbearpig – We may have exhausted this subject but there is an interesting read out there by G. Edward Griffin. He’s very well known for his book, The Creature From Jeckyll Island which discusses the Federal Reserve’s role in all this. But if you do a search on an essay called The Grand Deception written by him, it’s an incredibly interesting read. It’s also a ‘connect the dots’ account of how the British got this ball rolling. But it goes into alot more detail about many of the points I’m trying to make. Not necessarily The New Deal, but enough info to disect it. I stumbled upon that essay in March of 2002 and everything began to fall into place (for me anyway) after that.
There are two parts as the first part got updated. In fact, here are a couple of links:
http://www.vlrc.org/articles/116.html 1st edition
http://centre.telemanage.ca/li.....5B006DE7A7 2nd edition
July 17th, 2008 at 1:29 am
Thanks Jeff. Yes, I’m already familiar with Griffin’s work on the FED especially – seen the documentaries etc. – but I’ll need to do some additional research on the New Deal + FDR as well and simply beacuse it seems like an important, sort of dividing issue in general. Because of its’ nature, a political misuse of it and a spin one way or the other is likely to happen – if it’s not happening already. But we’ll see about that – so, later!