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Iran Warned Not To Allow War Pretext
Egypt and Saudi Arabia caution against presenting U.S. and Israel pretext for military strike on a silver platter
Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet
Monday, August 18, 2008
Following a meeting this weekend between Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak and Saudi King Abdullah, Iran was told not to allow the U.S. and Israel to create a pretext for a military attack, a warning interpreted by Tehran that an impending attack is on the horizon.
“Iran should not present on a silver platter the justifications and the pretexts for those who want to drag the region down a dangerous slope,” Egypt’s presidential spokesman Suleiman Awwad said on Saturday.
“Middle East sources report that the Iranian satellite carrier space launch Sunday, Aug. 17, was prompted by a joint caution to Tehran from Saudi King Abdullah and Egyptian president Hosni Mubarak,” reports Debka File.
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“This warning was interpreted by the London Arabic daily Al Quds as a warning to Tehran that an attack is impending by the US, some European nations and Israel.”
The warning follows last week’s decision on behalf of Kuwait to activate its highest priority Emergency War Plan in response to the largest U.S. naval deployment since 1991 as three more U.S. warships steamed towards the Persian Gulf in what observers described as an “unprecedented” build-up.
Finding and even staging a suitable pretext for a military attack on Iran has been a preoccupation amongst top Neo-Cons for months if not years.
Last month, New Yorker writer Seymour Hersh sensationally revealed that during a meeting held in the Vice President’s office concerning the creation of a justification to attack Iran, Dick Cheney proposed dressing up Navy Seals as Iranians, putting them on fake Iranian PT speedboats and starting a shoot up.
The plan was purportedly rejected but Hersh noted that the incident in the Straight of Hormuz, in which tiny Iranian speedboats on patrol inside Iranian waters were said to have threatened three U.S. warships with suicide attacks (a ridiculous claim completely fabricated by the U.S. and lapped up by the western media) taught the Bush administration that “if you get the right incident, the American public will support” it.
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August 18th, 2008 at 4:10 am
One can hardly imagine anyone taking the advise of Mubarak or Abdullah, both of whom seem to have made a career demonstrating the ‘benefits’ of abject obeisance to the US/Israel hegemon.
August 18th, 2008 at 4:57 am
BREAKING NEWS - “SEOUL (Reuters) - South Korean and U.S. forces began annual military drills on Monday, as a North Korean military spokesman denounced the exercises as a prelude to war and said they spoiled the prospects for nuclear disarmament talks.”
“About 56,000 South Korean troops and 10,000 U.S. troops will join the exercises that test communication, computer and command systems, South Korean and U.S. military officials said.”
This either means that US will cause unstability in N. Korea in an attempt to use this area to encircle Russia from deep east or maybe but I highly doubt that US has lost it’s interest on Iran due to Russia imminent retaliation if that happens.
August 18th, 2008 at 5:26 am
The war is not “right” but necessary. Were broke, and not only is war best way to redistribute wealth, but implements of war are also our main export.
I am pro American lifestyle and support the war only because it keeps me living in the style Im accustomed to.
If my family was starving I would do whatever I had to do to support them. If my family was an entire country, I might have to resort to more drastic measures.
Yes Im a scumbag so go ahead and call a spade a spade.
But Im an honest scumbag.
(no this is not intended as a joke)
August 18th, 2008 at 5:38 am
Average Joe,
Please go to Iraq immediately, we need you to go into combat and show the fierce fighting skills that you so obviously possess. The lifestyle that you are accustomed to will be effortlessly maintained as you kill innocents, plunder and pillage their homes and on occasion shoot at actual bad guys (from a safe distance of course).
Average Joe (is your last name Lieberman?) you are a hero and I am so proud of you for proclaiming that you are an Honest Scumbag!
The not a joke disclaimer wasn’t necessary we could tell you were a scumbag.
August 18th, 2008 at 5:46 am
Hey Average Joe?
How long do you really think you can continue to live like this?
Eventaully someone actually will attack the States! How long before this kind of mentality sets the standard? Maybe you can take the cheeseburger out of your mouth and park the SUV if it means that others who love their families as much as you do don’t have to suffer. Lets pray we never have to watch our children die! But your thinking is an absolute crime! It says that you are not willing to change your fast food mentatlity you’d rather keep on with the ignorance and satisfy yourself with the deaths of other innocent people. The worst part is your faith in their actions! Because if you look up they are spraying you with chemicals too which means that you are in the cross hairs! See it has to stop! It is becoming insaine! You are being targeted as well.
August 18th, 2008 at 6:10 am
Average Joe wrote:
”I am pro American lifestyle and support the war only because it keeps me living in the style Im accustomed to.”
You are not pro American at all, because:
Liberty leads the way to peace.
Peace leads the way to Liberty.
War leads the way to slavery.
Slavery leads the way to war.
Do you see the connection here?
It’s impossible to live your ”American way of life” if you’re going to war. Your government wil rob you of all of your money, and also your sons and daughters.
August 18th, 2008 at 6:12 am
Joe….
Did you aggree with over 1,000,000 people dying so you can have an Ipod and your little sister can get a cancer vaccine that will end up causing more damage then it would prevent?
August 18th, 2008 at 6:18 am
NEWS FLASH…
Prostitutes across America are actually Navy SEALS spreading STDs to unsuspecting perverts!
US and it’s allies attack Iran as retaliation!
August 18th, 2008 at 7:23 am
No war this year. http://www.nolanchart.com/article3995.html
August 18th, 2008 at 7:28 am
Average Americans will do whatever they are told by the media, no matter who own the media or indeed, no matter what they are told.
I saw a news report where some seemingly intelligent people were expressing their desire to see McCain as president because he is ’strong’ and ‘experienced’. Absolute brainwashed bullshit from the intelligent Americans. God knows what the rest are thinking.
August 18th, 2008 at 7:38 am
Question
I would be very interested to find out how many citizens of USA are in fact neocons like Bush and Cheney?I would say that barely 5% or maby less.Then how is possible that 5%neocons are pulling the strings for the entire USA?This means that USA is no longer democracy or free country,just neocon dictatorship
Bush equals Mugabe
August 18th, 2008 at 7:44 am
AVEREGE JOE,ANNA,AUSSIE,whatever.Please people,do not even pay attention to their comments design to stir the pot.
What you must do,is sign this petition.This is probably your last chance to impeach bush&co.Go to http:/Kucinich.us/petition
KEEP REPETING THIS INFORMATION
August 18th, 2008 at 7:45 am
Well Average Joe, you claim to be an honest scumbag. Allow me to be honest too and tell you that the future world will be a much better place when the likes of you are finally thrown into hell and the meek have inherited the earth. I’m just being honest.
August 18th, 2008 at 8:12 am
No war this year, according to Bilderberg.
August 18th, 2008 at 8:16 am
Iran Threatened After Gates Bilderberg Visit
‘Following Defense Secretary Robert Gates and Condoleezza Rice’s visit with the Bilderberg Group this past weekend in Chantilly, during which they urged European globalists to support an attack on Iran, the EU and the US today threatened Iran with further sanctions.
Despite the fact that most Europeans at the Bilderberg conference expressed their opposition to a military strike, war drums are beating louder today after the combined US and EU threat, in addition to revelations that Israel has set up a special unit within its air force to manage an air strike on Iran.’
August 18th, 2008 at 8:22 am
If anyone thinks that Bush wouldn’t do exactly the same things that Mugabe has done, they just haven’t been paying attention. The only things that have stopped him are the three hundred million guns we have, and the fact that the military probably wouldn’t support him. But his heart is every bit as evil as Mugabe’s.
August 18th, 2008 at 9:14 am
Leave it to that racist and aparthied state of Hate, Israel, to either pull off a false-flag, which will conveniently be blamed upon Iran, with lots of help from the lapdog American press or for that psychotic, mass-murderer, GW Bush, to start the hostilities because he’s hearing the same voices in his head that told him to “smite” Saddam.
Once Iran has been “Shocked and Awed” into oblivion, look for the Zionist owned MSM to put Saudi Arabia in its sights with some lame-ass phrase like, “Remember 9/11!”
Remember that 14 9/11 hijackers came from the “Kingdom.”
And with that, we’ll be off and running, fighting another war for Empire and Israel.
August 18th, 2008 at 9:44 am
Mubarak and Abdullah are both zionists. Mubarak willingly provides the other half of the military functions required to turn Gaza into the world’s biggest concentration camp on behalf of the violent jewish extremists of Israel. Abdullah hosts the most important US military bases in the Middle East- bases that WOULD be used for US genocide against Iran even in a situation where you were told that only Israeli forces were attacking. Abdullah also directly finances all the most powerful zionist groups in the USA.
Now we all should know that the depraved cult of zionism is just the oil that lubricates the machinery of the NWO, a mechanism of elites that is well above concepts of ‘race’ or ‘organised religion’. However, most of these ‘elites’ have effectively turned their own allegiances into a cult, a natural psychological consequence of the power pyramid. Only the true ‘leaders’ of the NWO ‘cult’ have a free and guiding vision, which means that we will find victory impossible (at this stage) unless we are able to reveal and confront these true enemies of Human free will.
In the short term, identifying people like Mubarak and Abdullah as self-serving scum is all too easy, but if they were somehow removed, their replacements would be of identical behaviour, because they are simply ‘pegs’ fashioned to fit into existing ‘holes’. To make a difference, we would have to change the shape of the ‘holes’. The absolute evil of american military force would need to be fully neutralised to achieve this. You yanks are locked into the NWO because no matter how ‘enlightened’ you think yourselves, you love your butchers in uniform.
When forces in Britain designed and created the USA, injecting a massive dose of ‘Sparta’ philosophy was a key part of the plan. What are the first two words of NWO? An ORDER arising from the clean slate design of the NEW WORLD. And yet 99.999% of americans are unaware of the trillions of dollars (in today’s money) that the UK pumped into the USA (via various agencies) during and after its official creation.
August 18th, 2008 at 9:58 am
to Average Joe: you are SO right, actually. USA is a military industrial economy. Without wars USA is toast. You are right, these wars keep USA’s economy afloat. I honestly don’t understand how those other peaceniks don’t “get it”. They are SO deluded. Bush is fighting to preserve USA’s imperialistic superiority and the lifestyle of all these peacenics who are posting here. What they want is the end of USA’s supremacy. Dont they understand that would also mean an end to that sweet sweet middle class lifestyle they are acustomed to? Talk about stupidity.
August 18th, 2008 at 10:10 am
Who would believe anything the Bildebergers say?Funny how for the first time in their history,they release a newsletter(LIES).
http://Kucinich.us/petition
August 18th, 2008 at 10:26 am
@ petkov I agree 100%
WE NEED TO STAY ON TOP!!! Fuck anubody that feel’s or think’s otherwise!
August 18th, 2008 at 10:35 am
Totally disagree with petkov. Bush is not simply fighting to preserve imperialistic superiority, they are in full hubris mode trying to expand it. And if you act like an empire you’ll end up like one. Lose freedoms and take a look at that national debt. Its not sustainable in the long run. Never has been never will. And it looks like it this might lead to another cold war. Who will win on this? Not the average joe and certainly not the poor.
August 18th, 2008 at 10:45 am
A good strategy, but the U.S. and Israel will easily find a way around that. Our boys will give us a good start, 300 megatons worth. Let’s see, oh yes; Texas City, Kansas City, Omaha, Dallas, St. Louis, Charleston, Atlanta, Chicago, Phoenix, San Diego, Little Rock. Yeah, they may even have a few megs left over, but don’t worry, it won’t go to waste.
Kansas City, Kansas City here I come….
August 18th, 2008 at 10:46 am
petkov and deep red…draw a warm bath….plug in toaster…hold on to toaster….take a bath.
August 18th, 2008 at 10:50 am
Besides. Not only could this “war on terrorism” lead to a cold war it can have direct blowbacks just as Operation Ajax 1953 –> Iranian revolution 1979.
August 18th, 2008 at 11:01 am
One final comment unless replied to, re: “Were broke”
War is one of the reasons USA is going broke. China didn’t have to occupy Iran, they simply sent the businessmen but no military. They’re doing the same thing in Africa. They do not ask for any favors and make no demands, they only want business. This is why they are more welcomed than USA.
August 18th, 2008 at 11:14 am
ohh good grief egypt, warning iran not to give isreal and US an excuse for military strike? thats a laugh, because its already been decided that its going to happen, by the world elite, i mean come on, egypt is part of this to thier just as corrupt as any other government that takes money from the world elite.
August 18th, 2008 at 11:34 am
Petkov,
one day or another the USA will go down. And you can be sure that most of EU countries won’t follow the fascist path that the USA are on.
You are finish! The power is now in the Middle East, Russia and China. The Saoudis (who probably screwed you on 911) are going to let you down and deal with Russia, Iran and China.
Guess where EU countries are going to head on if they want to keep the supply in oil and naturel gaz and in order not to be bombed?
My dear, you just got Canada left on your side, but they have no army. I am Canadian myself and I am sure that soon or later USA is going to screw US. But fortunately for me, I moved in Sweden where this country is not a member of NATO!
The show must go on and I quite enjoy looking at the USA going down down down.
Good for you!
August 18th, 2008 at 11:38 am
Agreed 1984. It seems to me that we are following the same path as that of the old Soviet Union. Massive military spending without a powerful enough economy to back it up, on top of 2 different wars and threatening even more. Endless war is what has brought down and destroyed many ‘great’ empires and appears to be repeating itself in the American empire.
August 18th, 2008 at 12:54 pm
those who live by the sword will die by the sword mr deepred and petnov.
you can live in cuckoo land all you want,the owner of this earth is god almighty not mr bush and his bunch of jewish zionists planning endless wars and conflagration. when his decision comes upon you not even your atom bombs or technological superiority will save you!!
wait and see, and i hope this happens in your lifetime.
August 18th, 2008 at 1:15 pm
m.arshad
Which God do you speak of? Shiva, Ra?, Zeus? Allah? etc.
Religions are all human inventions. And do not even claim to understand or to know what a possible deity might want. How arrogant to claim to know any God..
August 18th, 2008 at 3:17 pm
“Kirk to transporter room, BEAM ME UP SCOTTY! No sign of intelligent life here!”
JSS
August 18th, 2008 at 3:20 pm
Tom, All the groups you mentioned worship idols and demons, see Psalm 95 v 5.
You also left off the 50,000 real Catholics who don’t worship idols and demons.
Chow
August 18th, 2008 at 3:22 pm
Boy oh boy….they’re really into the whole PROBLEM-REACTION-SOLUTION plot aren’t they???
August 18th, 2008 at 3:54 pm
*Sigh* if only their warning meant anything. Iran could scrap its entire nuclear program tomorrow (not just the “weapons program”, but the whole damn thing) and parade Ahmadinejad in front of the world, begging on his hands and knees “Please United States, please don’t attack Iran! We’ll be your best friend!”. It wouldn’t make one bit of difference. The US would still find some excuse to attack. “Oh, umm…al-Qaeda’s there…yeah that works. GET ‘EM!” Or even something more laughable like “Oh well the people there have no freedom and pine for democracy! We must go in and give it to them at all costs like the beneficent guardians of peace and harmony that we are!…GET ‘EM AGAIN!”
They will find ANY stupid little excuse to justify an attack. Just watch the news; any little thing Iran does gets on the news nowadays, just waiting to be picked apart by our “elected” leaders looking for some incendiary occurrence.
I’d like everyone reading this to immagine they’re watching a magician performing his act. He pulls a rabit out of his hat “magically”, and all the children in the audience are awestruck. “Wow! Where did the bunny come from mommy?” But to anyone old enough not to be fooled so easily, it becomes obvious that the rabbit was probably in his hat the whole time. Next he makes a woman “float” in midair. This a good portion of the crowd gasps in astonishment; “Wow! There’s no way that can be a trick”. But you, you saw that show on TV with the masked magician (lol) so you know she’s just hanging from wires.
The point of that comical little diversion is this: Once you know how a trick is done, it ceases to be a trick, and you can no longer be fooled. In a “pay no attention to the man behind the curtain” moment of revelation, you understand that there is nothing special going on, and that someone is trying to hoodwink you.
Ladies and gentlemen, please do not allow the magicians running the world to pull the wool over your eyes. We are not five year olds (except for the five year olds out there). We know where the bunny is coming from and we know where the real threat in this world is coming from. Don’t let yourself be tricked! Get on the internet, read books, talk to people, and for the love of god educate yourselves and those you associate with and care about. This is one instance where you want to ruin the magicians’ tricks for eveyone!!!
August 18th, 2008 at 4:33 pm
What a bunch of sub-intellects cowering, hovering over their keyboard, spewing hate bravely, anonymously on a message board. Of course, in reality, they are pussies who would NEVER, EVER say the false shit they say anonymously on a message board to anyone in person. Look at the cowards. They believe the American government, in association with corporate America, killed 3,000 of its own citizens and is trying to kill and/or enslave them now…yet still most of them work for corporate America and give a significant portion of their income, via taxes, to the U.S. Government so the government can use it to try and kill and/or enslave them.
How fucking stupid is that!? Yet they still (and always will) cower and comply with their corporate masters and keep providing for the U.S. Government via taxes because they are too stupid and cowardly to do anything more than type anonymously on keyboards in the convenience of off-work hours and…in a small number of cases…disgrace the 9/11 victims by showing up on 9/11 wearing stupid black t-shirts and mindlessly chanting fraudulent phrases taught to them by their sheepherder, Alex Jones.
Society is getting fed up with truthers, Alex Jones sheep, and their ilk. Soon society will rid the world of this cancer.
August 18th, 2008 at 5:25 pm
Another facist fegal presentation, sponsered by our friends in the CIA.
” and keep providing for the U.S. Government via taxes because they are too stupid and cowardly to do anything more ”
If you knew a god damn thing about taxes then you would retract that statement because most of our taxes go to the Private Banking cartels ie: Federal Reserve, NOT our government. In any case the massive induction of Agent Provacatuers into this and other forums gives our arguement credence and proofs we are hurting the NWO.
Note to all any posts by anyone with a FEGAL following the name is an agent provacetuer and should be ignored. There are quite a few others most likely the same people under the guise of different forum/user names. They are trolls and refuse to debate, instead they persist on creating arguements that cannot be rationally debated and end up making us fight amongst each other. Every time you see a post such as this fegal troll it just means we are hurting the NWO or whatever name you’ve given the Globalist Agenda so be proud that you are exposing lies, having rational debates and be even more proud that the trolls are so worried about us that they are trying to create infights.
lata
-J
August 18th, 2008 at 5:48 pm
Hey Comrade,
Your arrogant name calling sends the message that you are
ignorant to issues surrounding your existence. In case you
haven’t looked around, your United States of America that
you ‘bravely’ protect has changed in a way that can never
be brought back to its core - which is the protection of the
United States Constitution.
So here we are, 7 years later, Afghanistan (failing war), Iraq (another failing war), and now Iran and Russia are on the plate.
Last time I checked, which was five years ago, we had the best
military on the planet. But yours truly, Mr. Bush has weakened our military to the point of breaking. And not to mention, he
has sent National Guards to duty. So who is here to protect us
now?
Our very own M16 armed police officers. As well as foreign troops too. Its not hard to find this evidence. Do your history research my friend - George Washington wanted to abolish a standing army due to its ongoing threat of domestic tyranny. How about having an open discussion rather than wasting your breath calling everyone around you a brainless idiot.
Peace.
August 18th, 2008 at 6:05 pm
George Washington and Adams both wanted to abolish a standing army in times of peace. Adams actually temporarily abolished the army during his presidency with much opposition from Alexander Hamilton. Alexander Hamilton was a British lobbyist/agent that tried to keep the army active and argued for a British Central Banking system. These elite Europeans have been trying to militarize the U.S. since 1776, however they were unsuccessful in their attempts until they gained complete control over our monetary system and most politicians.
August 18th, 2008 at 7:52 pm
The neocons are at the lies 24/7. It is 18 Aug duriang the evening, I just heard McCain on national teevee say Russia is “Capturing women and children and taking them to a “prison camp”. Then as an added statement McCain said “And they are killing them too”. McCain has got to be some sort of joke, the lies just roll out of his mouth and he doesn’t even flinch. If he becomes president it will be worse than Bush…
August 18th, 2008 at 9:09 pm
Another promising string, definetly worth a serious discussion again became a joke after (the same as allways) ppl ranting randomly without even properly reading text take over again.
Shame……
An attack on Iran has been in the books for a while. All that is stopping them is a pretext atm. Give them time and they will find one. Just think they have something special planned as a pretext or a fall-guy. Isreal might do a first strike……..??
The piecs of the chessboard are moving and its a crucial move, with Russia in the mix in the region there is no telling where it will come from, or what would happen after…
August 18th, 2008 at 9:33 pm
Revolt426;
If all of U.S. taxpayers money goes to pay off a debt, who pays our military members their salary? Hmmmmm?
You’re a fucking dumbass Alex Jones sheep, dude. Believing because he said it and he had a website to link to.
People are fucking sad.
August 18th, 2008 at 9:35 pm
Look at all the losers giving away excuses why they are too cowardly to “take back their country” starting with logging off the computer, stop working for corporate America and stop giving the U.S. Government part of your meager salary. Hey, you’re the idiots who said the U.S. Government is evil and is trying to kill us AND you’re the idiots giving them money.
Think about that retards.
August 18th, 2008 at 9:37 pm
Yeah, Revolt426, you’re having a really big impact…7 years later and still nothing has happened.
What a fucking dumbass you are.
Note…Revolt426 is a dumbass.
August 18th, 2008 at 9:44 pm
I must have hit the truth. They are getting angry and calling “NWO provacateur” instead of addressing the issue of their cowardice. They cry the strawman “NWO provacateur” instead of explaining WHY THEY WORK FOR CORPORATE AMERICA, GIVE THE U.S. GOVERNMENT THEIR MONEY AND DO NOTHING BUT POST MESSAGES ABOUT IT ON SOME OBSCURE, LAME MESSAGE FORUM.
August 18th, 2008 at 9:54 pm
Yeah, tiny Georgia decided to attack mammoth Russia. You Alex Jones apes are falling for the same propaganda that you rail against (i.e. The Reichstag fire). Empirical proof that you believe what Alex Jones says merely because he says it. Not one of you losers has ever left your fucking keyboard to investigate whom attacked whom, yet you KNOW Georgia attacked Russia first. And you work for corporate America and give part of your income to the U.S. Government…two agencies you think are evil and murderous.
Yeah, you idiots make a lot of sense.
August 18th, 2008 at 10:04 pm
Avg Joe,
I don’t know where you got the idea that war is good for your standard of living. Maybe if you work for a defense contractor, you may personally benefit, but in terms of the nation as a whole war is a destroyer of wealth. At best, a war economy tends to concentrate wealth in the hands of a few elites at the top and let’s face it, that ain’t you.
August 18th, 2008 at 10:37 pm
For once, Moshe, I hope your fearmongering is accurate-though it might send your percentages off-let’s let the gated community-and all the mousketeers in israelyland realize it what it takes to market air combat with the big boys. Let Christ rain terror down on their stinky hill!; 70 A.D. all over again.
August 18th, 2008 at 10:38 pm
wow, revolt 426…someone sans head up’s ass.
August 19th, 2008 at 5:03 am
There will be no attack on Iran since the attack on S.Ossetia was at the behest of Israel as the Georgian Ministers for Defense and Reintegration are both Hebrew speaking `former` Israelis. The PM of Georgia is also a jew as he asked a rabbi based in Israel to bless `us`.
A likely scenario is that the three of them got into a huddle and together in secure video conference with Israel’s Defense Minister decided that the attack would be on the eve of the Olympic Games because China, being a perfect host to the world, would be unable to respond to Iran’s needs while it was being attacked by USrael.
With China definitely accounted for in this way the only uncertainty was Russia’s effectiveness in responding in the defense of S.Ossetia as Russia would also need to be tied up in the Caucasus beating back the Georgians and for just as long as China is otherwise preoccupied.
Unfortunately for USrael, Russia was swift, effective and measured in response, and shows itself to be in even a better position to respond with aid to Iran than before August 7 in the event of an attack by USrael.
Consider whether Georgia seriously thought an attack on S.Ossetia would result in the expulsion of the people there and the annexation of that land into Georgia without a military response from Russia very firmly repelling the Georgians ?
They knew that they could not militarily take S.Ossetia, so why attack it ? This was a probing action at the expense of the Georgian and S.Ossetian people designed to bog down Russia militarily while Iran’s nuclear facilities were being destroyed.
President Saakashvili, otherwise a bright man, had not thought this through, and not being a jew was left out of the huddle but informed of the outcome of discussions with Israel and, with him being President, was to be the public face of Georgia explaining away what plainly was a war crime.
August 19th, 2008 at 7:25 am
MichaelM,
I’ve been wondering whether or not we would actually attack Iran. You say we will not, but I don’t really understand your reasoning. You went on to explain how Georgia was most likely attacked, but didn’t really give a reason for that attack; and I don’t understand the connection between attacking S. Ossetia and/or attacking Iran. Could you explain further please?
You also sort of said that S. Ossetia was a decoy while Iran’s nuclear facilities were being destroyed. I don’t even own a TV anymore (news is propaganda I don’t want to hear), so I haven’t heard of this. Who is destroying Iran’s nuclear facilities?
August 19th, 2008 at 8:26 am
America took out the peaceful shaw and installed this Iranian goverment in order to have an incremental strategy at a new controlled dialectic. Now the world views Iran in two very different ways. The most important element is that they have convinced you and everyone else there is a threat. The only real threat is our inability to see the scare mechanisims which allow all goverments to control its citizens. With citizens afraid change will happen in favor of the machavellian rulers. Systematic and smart. As for oil and gas Iran has plenty and its always been easy target for maojr corporations. But those corporations must do other biddings in order to get those control units. Everyones is in on it. Give me one war and I will explain its start and who created it and why. This is not rocket sceince its simple think tanks meet deception and it unfolds on TV and in newspapers everyday. We get less control goverments gets more. We have less -Goverment have more. The very word government means the governing of ment! Wake up we are sheep and everyone is being lied too. That why politics makes zero sense.
August 19th, 2008 at 9:14 am
We could very soon be seeing an attack on Iran. I’ve live close to a Naval base near the straight of Gibraltar and there’s been quite a bit of naval traffic as well as B-2’s seen flying overhead.
I hope that i am wrong in supposing an impending attack.
August 19th, 2008 at 1:23 pm
“Interesting comments.” a paper money fight..
between MAD bankers.. google “money as debt” for more info
August 19th, 2008 at 7:10 pm
Jean W, i’ll say the same differently and maybe better; the attack by USrael on Iran’s nuclear facilities has not gone ahead these last 3 yrs only because Russia’s and China’s reaction was an unknown during the crucial bombardment period.
The reason for the attack by Georgia on S.Ossetia on the very eve of the Olympics, August 7, was that China could do nothing for Iran for several weeks, being perfect hosts to the world, if Iran was attacked by USrael. So, China was taken care of.
The remaining unknown was Russia’s response - just how effective it would be, that was the key to whether the attack on Iran by USrael would go ahead within a week of the attack on S.Ossetia.
Had the Russians still been fighting the Georgians the attack on Iran would have happened a week ago because they would be too busy to help Iran.
Georgia is Israel’s cat’s paw as they have three jews, i had explained that, in crucial positions who, in collusion with the Israeli Minister of Defense, decided when to attack S.Ossetia to determine just how militarily competent the Russians were.
To everyones’ surprise, except the Russians, the fighting phase was over in 24 hrs and if Iran was then attacked by USrael - or Israel, Russia would be in a better position by far than before to move aid to Iran through Georgia (which couldn’t now stop it) through Armenia (friendly to Russia) onto Iran.
Looking at the map helps me, also essential cues can be gleaned from Israeli english language online news services - then draw the threads together.
August 19th, 2008 at 9:29 pm
“Hey, …
Average Joe!
C’mere boy. … SIT!
HERE!
Next to Comrade Fugly!
NOW!
Good boys.”
I justify writing such an un-pithy volume in order to non-timidly wipe you both out, … not from the hope that U will benefit, for I dare not harbour such optimism from the feckless personal evidence you volunteered. I write to lift life, & this is not the only place I will publish this letter; I am installing it in a number of Internet locations, in order to enhance the impact exponentially, … that a more worthy fellow-reader (either of this comment board, or a number of other fine resources which I haunt) superior to you might tap the awesome power of being an individual woman or man. And also, I write to agitate tirelessly for the day when innocent, loving, productive men & women understand what we are, … & grasp solidly onto that Weapon-of-Mass-Power (WMP) each possesses just by simply releasing their, final, loud, irrevocable “NO! NO MORE!” to all forms of human-degrading, pathological, liberal collectivism. In this, I’ll never cease to turn a cannibal tapeworms’ energies back against themselves.
Bored already?
Then move along, … you might be missing Beijing Idol. To use the immortal words of the super-titan of grassroots business values from Tampa (via Atlanta,) ‘The Coach,’ Art Williams, … “Don’t let the door slam your backside on the way out! … R-i-i-i-g-h-h-t?”
Your words represent so much about the core malignancy that we face, that you couldn’t have played more into the prosperity R3volution’s winning hand even if you’d tried. It’s so ideal to take this golden opportunity to set you up as a stellar textbook example of how millions have learned to be losers at life. A part of me hopes that you caused your ripple among us here deliberately, as a backhanded agitation against sick masters whom U hate as much as death itself; in order to create sufficient anger amongst the righteous that good people might finally take the risks involved to win the power. However, in so hoping, I risk being “ever the closet-optimist.” At any rate, I’ll contribute to the win by creating another truly enlightening blog; based verbatim on your poignant identification of personal evil, in context among the words of others. And then another after that. I encourage any & all to do likewise.
See, for millions of us, this prosperity R3volution represents the first & only time ~ ~ that we’ve ever been really serious about anything! Likely for the first time since before each of us started school, through our whole sorry Platonic, existential, individual, scientifically contrived, mystically taught, universal lives of Fabian/Marxist/Leninist commie sacrifice, adult individuals everywhere are now awakening from a very deep sleep to a deeply internal, spiritual “Eureka”; a re-birth of “Life Indeed.” That cosmically powerful WMP which I am forever deadly serious about is the irrevocably released word “NO!”
Many millions of humans are no longer worthwhile candidates for being led like sheep, & your masters are simply self-disintegrating, failing in their personal battles to invert the core of their morbid, subhuman, zombie essence. It’s now common to find them stumbling all over each other in a panic, while they’re being laughed out of existence for fun & profit!
Joe & Fegel, U, & your masters too, are welcome to commit yourselves to good, for though we are legion & anonymously viral against everything your words represent, we are welcoming & not malevolent. However, in the wall of open-ended justice ahead, which no one can avoid, will be one singular door through which U may enter to hobnob with humans from now on. That is the door of consciousness. Many are irrevocably condemned. … Are you?
Indeed, Joe & Fegel, you are both certainly fine specimens to pounce upon within this popular medium. Thanks! And know now that we will forthwith commence to ruthlessly pound you, & to subvert your entire tapeworm ilk ~ out of all known & unknown existence at every turn.
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I.) Joe, U certainly aren’t average. Neither though are U alone amongst homidic, attention-starved losers (note Fegel), hanging out on Internet comment boards. I’ll explain thoroughly in a moment.
II.) Honesty with others FIRST, & ALWAYS, requires self-honesty.
III.) Fegel; I laugh loudest at you. … Talk about cowards drooling over keyboards.
U are one sick puppy. Hee-he. Who pays you for this crap? Tell them we’re gonna’ break his bank before this is over.
“Alex, look at this ugly Russian hairless one over here with rabies! Ah, ha!”
Though I’ll allow that Joe may be writing us truths by revealing his “thoughts,” he certainly cannot be confused with being “honest.” For “honesty” requires self-introspection, moral purpose, & growth in order to fulfill the natural purpose of being definable as “human”; … that of having the natural rights & potentiality inherently derived from being conscious ~ … vastly advanced beyond all other species on Earth.
Joe, ugly Fegel, … as belied by your speed-boating through our midst, U are no doubt starting to recognize that the humans are accelerating, toward lightning speed, as they move into positions of self-directed self-leadership. As exponentially more & more humans leave U in the dust, it becomes very obvious that U are mentally unwinding at the looming prospect of your assured loneliness, & simultaneously U are also elevating whatever standard U imagined to be your authoritative norm for “average”. Your confusion & consternation at the increasing disparity of your collective-dependent existence will now begin to become excruciating as U totally unravel. For U are only humanoid, … far below average ~ amongst the lowest common denominator. U think that the people who will survive this ‘ WW5 individual vs. the collective ‘ armageddon are just like you, but you both are a few posts short of a full fence, & you should volunteer to be chipped forthwith, while Dr. Paul holds the key as your safeguard against finally ending up a morbid zombie as your conditions worsen, … & before U accelerate the already well-underway cannibalization of your own offspring.
U have not discovered consciousness, the human survival tool. U are the very textbook form of lowly being that the elites & illuminists are acting through to dominate & eliminate the innocent, guileless, superior humans. You lay amongst a den of humanoids that can be easily impressed to “Screw the neighbors!,” … the neighbours being that number amongst those whom your own kids might yet someday get to be similarly counted, … & screwed.
Consciousness: the between-the-ears-resident equipment that humans can deliberately self-cultivate to profitably differentiate them from all other beasts on the Earth. This tool I write about, :con-scious-ness: is the base element of human existence required for enjoying something called “abiding happiness,” which no other Earthly beast can experience. Unfortunately for you (& likely any individuals under 18 yrs. old within your circles of influence) this appears to be impossible in the face of your deliberate, advertised, premeditated ready willingness to shun all that is good. You may have learned somewhere that U are “average,” or someone’s “comrade” … but that is only as a mere average beast. It appears from your own incriminations that you believe yourselves to be irredeemable, & bereft of a civilized course of premeditated direction with which to survive.
U, like a mere beast, mystically default to whatever means are easiest & quickest. Happiness is not your life’s imperative, for you are un-evolved & base. I am reminded by the both of you of an old hyena (with a face like McGain?) that’s lost its teeth (symbolically in contrast to that of a human’s survival tool.) In my mind’s eye, it is going around furtively sneaking lice-ridden, half digested droppings & feces wherever he finds it to gorge upon with its abscessed gums.
Just because U interact with humans, your knees lock your torso in an upright position, & U can read & write a lil’ bit does not make U human. Having consciousness changes everything, but that’s enough about that, because U simply don’t understand. Simply, U both have one hell of a lot of growing to do if you hope to share this world with the conscious humans. While super-improbable, this may yet still be possible. In order to remain optimistic about those humanoids whom make the expansive effort to speedboat past, I always suppose this. However, to avoid suffering from the failure-to-judge syndrome, I am not encouraged about either of U.
Your ilk of un-evolved, power-refusing beings are exactly the ones whom assist those who would drag us into the anti-civilized dog-posture in which we now find ourselves. U bizarrely admit to proudly operating as talentless, incapable, pimple-ugly whores under your masters, & so U are volunteering for imprisonment with them. Consider your own safety ahead of time if it is not already to late to make your life a positive force, lest later U commit acts of desperation that require your neutralization or elimination. Indeed, U should have both been fixed while U were still a minor under the control of your parents. It was very irresponsible of them to allow their botarded sons loose into the Earth to propagate at large. Folklore dictates that evil visits families for seven generations out from its original perpetrator. I hope for your grandkid’s sakes that your sicknesses started some 5 generations before U, or else they too face your same hyena-existence, largely unable to discover & utilize their potentiality. Help them; are your children presently as bald-faced defiant of hope, … like you too? Do they have any unbeaten, righteous fight left in them still?
Finally, though U spout off your festering gobutets with whatever may go through your pea-brains, conscious, self-esteemed humans call that practice “diarrhea of the mouth,” ~ certainly not honesty. (I’m reminded of Butsher’s, MugGain’s, Clitlery’s, Chicanery’s, Brezinski’s, & Obomination’s wretched breaths. … Egads!)
For explanation, self-honesty is first required in order to be honest with others, & this produces:
a.) growth,
b.) capacity for taking on more power responsibly, &
c.) moral acts.
Your self-heralded behaviours preclude such honesty, & makes your personal growths impossible, as:
-it chains U in feckless lifestyles within your collectives, upon which U are dependent for subsistence droppings;
-it forces U into no-choice, sacrificial, hopeless lives as a vacuous losers, as well causing the life sacrifice of victims unlucky enough to find themselves around U, inexorably causing everyone with which you repeatedly contact to share your loser lifestyle, to one degree or another. The damage to them may range from minimal, if they are capable of some degree of consciousness, down to the final death of their very persons ~ if they are on your same hyena-zombie ilk’s rabies-list. As we have established, there is awesome power in an honest man or woman’s “NO!”
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Joe, … Fugly one, …ask yourselves, “Why did I visit prisonplanet.com?”
Your motives can be discerned from the contexts U offered:
~ Conscious Prisonplanet.com fans appear attractive to you, & so U hang out where they congregate. They are unlike U, as their egos are not unsubstantiated, & your curious nature as a humanoid beast is drawn to them. Unfortunately, your sociopathic diseases reek, & so U remain isolated & alone ~ only even moreso ~ with each ripple U create, exactly as Pavlov trained U to do, & just where U are most useful to him. An extended, contrived, & thorough reaming has been your most significant, complete life’s experience. How to live happily, with competence at dealing with life successfully, is a methodology that escapes U.
Perhaps there is hope? U certainly have our permission to beg our solutions, … that is, if U could sensitize your delivery so that it aligns with the ancient calling of the downtrodden consciousness screaming from deep within U. U are not however welcome, consternated & pitiable, abjectly dependent on others to keep & provide for U. Go deep for a moment, Joe. Is integrity to the moral qualities of goodness & childhood-undying attitude still a live yearning in U at all? Can U even get a glimmer of a life wherein U envision saying “NO!” to anything less? “ Fugel, … hee-he. … My Dog you’re f’n ugly!”
~ Prisonplanet.com causes U pain, through your suicidal habit of mentally contrasting its fans against yourself. Though U might not take a lethal dose just quite yet, U experience a negative, self-sacrificial feeling from humans being better than your normal empty, humanoid, death-oriented self. This cancels the awful, lonely numbness, as caused by your own habitual, unchecked subhuman loser defaults.
~ Envy:
U gain a disordered, pathological satisfaction from the taking of the values belonging to other’s ~ whom U closet-view as your betters for a whole barrage of likely reasons, (those U spot as superior, more evolved, smarter, competent, confident, than yourself.) In this comment board, U have decided to use the awesome power of your Internet keyboard, albeit reduced to the explicit purpose of merely creating ripples of misery & destruction, of both the values U envy, & of their rightful owners. Via your rudimentary humanoid reflex mechanisms of bad-thought jealousy over net-value producers on the comment boards, U attempt to incense pathological consequences as a wave through the community of the humans, which in turn allows U to experience a twisted, vague humanoid comfort, albeit this default behaviour represents an utterly helpless, hypnotized ‘anti-effort’ at self-direction.
They Your masters cheat, & lie, wanting U to believe they live the same as they want U to, … so they can extract every value out of your whole life’s workaday earned values before U wake up. Since your discordian masters forced your enrollment in government schools, U have been institutionalized toward losing your survival tool. Listen to David Icke for a few hours before U come back in here to this comment board. U know how to use Youtube, don’t you? The intended ignorance he speaks of exists globally; so ignore his accent & learn. If U Joe, or Fugel (H-a-a-a) want to believe what he says regarding aliens, well I would not be too surprised, given your lack of objective faculties.
Joe, U claim to have learned well how to usurp a bogus livelihood out of creating & controlling misery in the lives of others; & we all know the slogan about loving miserable company. No one here is average, Joe. Pick a different room. I don’t want to hear from U unless U grow. Visit http://www.freedomforce.org & spare me the grief. Humans ostracize misery. “Fugel, go in the woods & die, fer’ dog’s sake! How’d U get so Fugly, anyway?”
~ Lazyness;
Rather than choosing to personally create values daily which lifts the lives of others, U have found it is far easier to volunteer as a stagnant usurper of your willing victims & innocent betters, even if only by snatching away at their advanced, intangible ideas & energies. Again, … that is the wrong response to consciousness. You’re fired!
~ Of course, it is highly likely that U are paid ad-hominem, slanderous shills, though then even being worse off than volunteer losers. Like Pavlov’s dog, your subhuman, hyena-natures may lap up the reward offered by your criminal-minded masters, as U believe it to be the most attractive incentive U are capable of nabbing. If that is the case, your masters are quickly learning, by tracking the feedback your kind receive here, that they lose hundreds & even thousands of willing victims each & every time they run a speedboat past. Laying bombs within the midst of those joining the prosperity R3volution is now a sure-fire, off-target, kamikaze act.
They will soon understand that when they act thus through the non-sentient humanoids they have squished out of the likes of U both, that many worthy others instantly make good decisions to do self-honest things. … For instance, on Nov. 4 coming to a history-making block near U, … demanding/writing in the awesome name of the sublime Dr. Ron Paul, enmasse, … by the millions! Then, as a further safeguard, these worthy self-leaders demand & take their rightful position in ever growing numbers, boldly, personally taking that day off to supervise the counting of all votes alongside their friends & neighbours, as they begin accepting power to be utilized only toward incredible free competition prosperity, allowing whatever justice the re-released Constitution leads ~ … after the last runoff.
In earnest hope of giving peace a chance, still while it lays on its deathbed convulsing,
my sympathies to your circles of contact. Thanks for all backfiring incendiaries.
August 19th, 2008 at 9:49 pm
Dea G is the sort who trashes threads by doing the equivalent of picking up a phone book and scanning into Comments a page at random !
The shills like him do this whenever they see something their Israeli paymasters get alarmed about, and so by smearing Comments pages with the visual equivalent of pigeon droppings they make anything else there unappetising.
It’s psywarfare, which when it appears, shows the absence of a moderator.
August 19th, 2008 at 10:06 pm
avg. michelm,
Sorry U are so desperate that U must incriminate yourself in public for all to see. Now everyone knows that U have a phone book to study.
Thanks for all backfiring incendiaries.
PS, Get away from Fugly, don’t U know showdogs don’t tailgate?
August 20th, 2008 at 1:10 pm
Hersh never says that Cheney proposed the idea himself. Why would you misreport that when the source video is linked on this page?
August 22nd, 2008 at 6:47 pm
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August 23rd, 2008 at 4:12 am
How did we ever get to this point? How can this all be remedied?
Simple. A handful of people need to be _______ and all of this nonsense will stop. Honest. Who are these old men who wish death and destruction upon humanity?
1. George Herbert Walker Bush, Nazi from start to finish
2. Bill Clinton, total sell out
3. Michael Chertoff Chief of Homeland Security, A bald Hitler
4. Dick Cheney, ‘nough said
5. Tony Blair, yuck
6. Von Kolvanback/The black pope(he is the top Jesuit),double yuck
I’d also love to see Jeb, Barbara, The Savings & Loan Bush, Marvin Bush(in charge of security at WTC til 9/10 ______ed. David Rockefeller, Rudy Gulianni, Henry Kissinger, Brezenski and a smattering of others _____ from this planet. The British Royal Family. The CPS pedophiles. Let’s clean house. All the Ollie Norths and framers of COG and Global 2000 and End Game dooms day blue prints, Halliburton, CFR, Club of Rome, all families who own or are affiliated with The Federal Reserve. So The Rothchilds, the sick b%@^$#ds trafficking in child kidnapping and satanic rituals. The IMF individuals, economic hit men, mafioso. Think Tanks such as America for a new Century…going…going…gone. I’m getting carried away now. I know there is an order to this universe and those who have foisted this horror upon mankind and helpless creatures from time immortal will be held accountable for their crimes against nature, humanity and helpless creatures.