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Is Posse Comitatus Dead?
Amy Goodman
Alternet
Thursday, October 9, 2008
Amy Goodman: In a barely noticed development last week, the Army stationed an active unit inside the United States. The Infantry Division’s 1st Brigade Team is back from Iraq, now training for domestic operations under the control of U.S. Army North, the Army service component of Northern Command. The unit will serve as an on-call federal response for large-scale emergencies and disasters. It’s being called the Consequence Management Response Force, CCMRF, or “sea-smurf” for short.
It’s the first time an active unit has been given a dedicated assignment to USNORTHCOM, which was itself formed in October 2002 to “provide command and control of Department of Defense homeland defense efforts.”
An initial news report in the Army Times newspaper last month noted, in addition to emergency response, the force “may be called upon to help with civil unrest and crowd control.” The Army Times has since appended a clarification, and a September 30th press release from the Northern Command states: “This response force will not be called upon to help with law enforcement, civil disturbance or crowd control.”
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When Democracy Now! spoke to Air Force Lieutenant Colonel Jamie Goodpaster, a public affairs officer for NORTHCOM, she said the force would have weapons stored in containers on site, as well as access to tanks, but the decision to use weapons would be made at a far higher level, perhaps by Secretary of Defense, SECDEF.
I’m joined now by two guests. Army Colonel Michael Boatner is future operations division chief of USNORTHCOM. He joins me on the phone from Colorado Springs. We’re also joined from Madison, Wisconsin by journalist and editor of The Progressive magazine, Matthew Rothschild.
We welcome you both to Democracy Now! Why don’t we begin with Colonel Michael Boatner? Can you explain the significance, the first time, October 1st, deployment of the troops just back from Iraq?
Col. Michael Boatner: Yes, Amy. I’d be happy to. And again, there has been some concern and some misimpressions that I would like to correct. The primary purpose of this force is to provide help to people in need in the aftermath of a WMD-like event in the
homeland. It’s something that figures very prominently in the national planning scenarios under the National Response Framework, and that’s how DoD provides support in the homeland to civil authority. This capability is tailored technical life-saving support and then further logistic support for that very specific scenario. So, we designed it for that purpose.
And really, the new development is that it’s been assigned to NORTHCOM, because there’s an increasingly important requirement to ensure that they have done that technical training, that they can work together as a joint service team. These capabilities come from all of our services and from a variety of installations, and that’s not an ideal command and control environment. So we’ve been given control of these forces so that we can train them, ensure they’re responsive and direct them to participate in our exercises, so that were they called to support civil authority, those governors or local state jurisdictions that might need our help, that they would be responsive and capable in the event and also would be able to survive based on the skills that they have learned, trained and focused on.
They ultimately have weapons, heavy weapons and combat vehicles and another service capability at their home station at Fort Stewart, Georgia, but they wouldn’t bring that stuff with them. In fact, they’re prohibited from bringing it. They would bring their individual weapons, which is the standard policy for deployments in the homeland. Those would be centralized and containerized, and they could only be issued to the soldiers with the Secretary of Defense permission.
So I think, you know, that kind of wraps up our position on this. We’re proud to be able to provide this capability. It’s all about saving lives, relieving suffering, mitigating great property damage to infrastructure and things like that, and frankly, restoring public confidence in the aftermath of an event like this.
AG: So the use of the weapons would only be decided by SECDEF, the Secretary of Defense. But what about the governors? The SECDEF would have — Secretary of Defense would have — would be able to preempt the governors in a decision whether these soldiers would use their weapons on U.S. soil?
MB: No, this basically only boils down to self-defense. Any military force has the inherent right to self-defense. And if the situation was inherently dangerous, then potentially the Secretary of Defense would allow them to carry their weapons, but it would only be for self- and unit-defense. This force has got no role in a civil disturbance or civil unrest, any of those kinds of things.
AG: Matt Rothschild, you’ve been writing about this in The Progressive magazine. What is your concern?
Matthew Rothschild: Well, I’m very concerned on a number of fronts about this, Amy. One, that NORTHCOM, the Northern Command, that came into being in October of 2002, when that came in, people like me were concerned that the Pentagon was going to use its forces here in the United States, and now it looks like, in fact, it is, even though on its website it says it doesn’t have units of its own. Now it’s getting a unit of its own.
And Colonel Boatner talked about this unit, what it’s trained for. Well, let’s look at what it’s trained for. This is the 3rd Infantry, 1st Brigade Combat unit that has spent three of the last five years in Iraq in counterinsurgency. It’s a war-fighting unit, was one of the first units to Baghdad. It was involved in the battle of Fallujah. And, you know, that’s what they’ve been trained to do. And now they’re bringing that training here?
On top of that, one of the commanders of this unit was boasting in the Army Times about this new package of non-lethal weapons that has been designed, and this unit itself is going be able to use, according to that original article. And in fact, the commander was saying he had even tasered himself and was boasting about tasering himself. So, why is a Pentagon unit that’s going to be possibly patrolling the streets of the United States involved in using tasers?
AG: Colonel Boatner?
MB: Well, I’d like to address that. That involved a service mission and a service set of equipment that was issued for overseas deployment. Those soldiers do not have that on their equipment list for deploying in the homeland. And again, they have been involved in situations overseas. And having talked to commanders who have returned, those situations are largely nonviolent, non-kinetic. And when they do escalate, the soldiers have a lot of experience with seeing the indicators and understanding it. So, I would say that our soldiers are trustworthy. They can deploy in the homeland, and American citizens can be confident that there will be no abuses.
AG: Matt Rothschild?
MR: Well, you know, that doesn’t really satisfy me, and I don’t think it should satisfy your listeners and your audience, Amy, because, you know, our people in the field in Iraq, some of them have not behaved up to the highest standards, and a lot of police forces in the United States who have been using these tasers have used them inappropriately.
The whole question here about what the Pentagon is doing patrolling in the United States gets to the real heart of the matter, which is, do we have a democracy here? I mean, there is a law on the books called the Posse Comitatus Act and the Insurrection Act that says that the president of the United States, as commander-in-chief, cannot put the military on our streets. And this is a violation of that, it seems to me.
President Bush tried to get around this act a couple years ago in the Defense Authorization Act that he signed that got rid of some of those restrictions, and then last year, in the new Defense Authorization Act, thanks to the work of Senator Patrick Leahy and Kit Bond of Missouri, that was stripped away. And so, the President isn’t supposed to be using the military in this fashion, and though the President, true to form, appended a signing statement to that saying he’s not going to be governed by that. So, here we have a situation where the President of United States has been aggrandizing his power, and this gives him a whole brigade unit to use against U.S. citizens here at home.
AG: Colonel Michael Boatner, what about the Posse Comitatus Act, and where does that fit in when U.S. troops are deployed on U.S. soil?
MR: It absolutely governs in every instance. We are not allowed to help enforce the law. We don’t do that. Every time we get a request — and again, this kind of a deployment is defense support to civil authority under the National Response Framework and the Stafford Act. And we do it all the time, in response to hurricanes, floods, fires and things like that. But again, you know, if we review the requirement that comes to us from civil authority and it has any complexion of law enforcement whatsoever, it gets rejected and pushed back, because it’s not lawful.
AG: Matthew Rothschild, does this satisfy you?
MR: No, it doesn’t. One of the reasons it doesn’t is not by what Boatner was saying right there, but what President Bush has been doing. And if we looked at National Security Presidential Directive 51, that he signed on May 9th of 2007, Amy, this gives the President enormous powers to declare a catastrophic emergency and to bypass our regular system of laws, essentially, to impose a form of martial law.
And if you look at that National Security Presidential Directive, what it says, that in any incident where there is extraordinary disruption of a whole range of things, including our economy, the President can declare a catastrophic emergency. Well, we’re having these huge disturbances in our economy. President Bush could today pick up that National Security Directive 51 and say, “We’re in a catastrophic emergency. I’m going to declare martial law, and I’m going to use this combat brigade to enforce it.”
AG: Colonel Michael Boatner?
MB: The only exception that I know of is the Insurrection Act. It’s something that is very unlikely to be invoked. In my 30-year career, it’s only been used once, in the LA riots, and it was a widespread situation of lawlessness and violence. And the governor of the state requested that the President provide support. And that’s a completely different situation. The forces available to do that are in every service in every part of the country, and it’s completely unrelated to the — this consequence management force that we’re talking about.
AG: You mentioned governors, and I was just looking at a piece by Jeff Stein — he is the national security editor of Congressional Quarterly — talking about homeland security. And he said, “Safely tucked into the $526 billion defense bill, it easily crossed the goal line on the last day of September.
“The language doesn’t just brush aside a liberal Democrat slated to take over the Judiciary Committee” — this was a piece written last year — it “runs over the backs of the governors, 22 of whom are Republicans.
“The governors had waved red flags about the measure on Aug. 1, 2007, sending letters of protest from their Washington office to the Republican chairs and ranking Democrats on the House and Senate Armed Services committees.
“No response. So they petitioned the party heads on the Hill.”
The letter, signed by every member of the National Governors Association, said, “This provision was drafted without consultation or input from governors and represents an unprecedented shift in authority from governors … to the federal government.”
Colonel Michael Boatner?
MB: That’s in the political arena. That has nothing to do with my responsibilities or what I’m — was asked to talk about here with regard to supporting civil authority in the homeland.
AG: Matthew Rothschild?
MR: Well, this gets to what Senator Patrick Leahy of Vermont was so concerned about, that with NORTHCOM and with perhaps this unit — and I want to call Senator Leahy’s office today and ask him about this — you have the usurpation of the governor’s role, of the National Guard’s role, and it’s given straight to the Pentagon in some of these instances. And that’s very alarming. And that was alarming to almost every governor, if not every governor, in the country, when Bush tried to do that and around about the Posse Comitatus Act. So, I think these are real concerns.
AG: Matt Rothschild, the Democratic and Republican conventions were quite amazing displays of force at every level, from the local police on to the state troopers to, well, in the Republican convention, right onto troops just back from Iraq in their Army fatigues. Did this surprise you?
MR: It did. It surprised me also that NORTHCOM itself was involved in intelligence sharing with local police officers in St. Paul. I mean, what in the world is NORTHCOM doing looking at what some of the protesters are involved in? And you had infiltration up there, too. But what we have going on in this country is we have infiltration and spying that goes on, not only at the — well, all the way from the campus police, practically, Amy, up to the Pentagon and the National Security Agency. We’re becoming a police state here.
AG: Colonel Michael Boatner, a tall order here, could you respond?
MB: Well, that’s incorrect. We did not participate in any intelligence collection. We were up there in support of the U.S. Secret Service. We provided some explosive ordnance disposal support of the event. But I’d like to go back and say that, again, in terms of –
AG: Could you explain what their — explain again what was their role there?
MB: They were just doing routine screens and scans of the area in advance of this kind of a vulnerable event. It’s pretty standard support to a national special security event.
AG: And are you saying there was absolutely no intelligence sharing?
MB: That’s correct. That is correct. … We’re very constrained–
MR: But even that, Amy, now the Pentagon is doing sweeps of areas before, you know, a political convention? That used to be law enforcement’s job. That used to be domestic civil law enforcement job. It’s now being taken over by the Pentagon. That should concern us.
AG: Why is that, Colonel Michael Boatner? Why is the Pentagon doing it, not local law enforcement?
MB: That’s because of the scale and the availability of support. DoD is the only force that has the kind of capability. I mean, we’re talking about dozens and dozens of dog detection teams. And so, for anything on this large a scale, the Secret Service comes to DoD with a standard Economy Act request for assistance.
AG: Boatner, in the Republican Convention, these troops, just back from Fallujah — what about issues of, for example, PTSD, post-traumatic stress disorder?
MB: Well, my sense is that that’s something that the services handled very well. There’s a long track record of great support in the homeland. If those soldiers were National Guard soldiers, I have no visibility of that. But for the active-duty forces, citizens can be confident that if they’re employed in the homeland, that they’ll be reliable, accountable, and take care of their families and fellow citizens in good form.
AG: Last word, Matthew Rothschild?
MR: Well, this granting of the Pentagon a special unit to be involved in U.S. patrol is something that should alarm all of us. And it’s very important to the Army.
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October 9th, 2008 at 11:37 am
“They want a fascist planet with the superwealthy ruling it all
Since we’re too independent, America must be led to fall
When our credit’s been exhausted to subdue the Middle East,
They’ll install our debtor nation in the body of The Beast
Traitor…Dare call it treason”
–The Cornbread Mafia
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uw5dP5gy2Vs
October 9th, 2008 at 11:57 am
The will to survive is stronger than the will to conquer! Posse Comitatus is dead only when we run out of ammo, quit defending ourselves, and they pry our weapons from our cold dead fingers. Praise the Lord and pass the fucking ammunition!
October 9th, 2008 at 11:58 am
What a strange picture. A black man in uniform holding an M-16 which could potentially be pointed at what appear to be very poor black people in a ghetto environment.
What would really get some attention is a group of fresh faced armed troops (white) holding rocket launchers aimed at people going in and out the main entrance of say Nordstrom’s. Perhaps the next generation of Mall Cops. It would be outrageous.
October 9th, 2008 at 12:03 pm
Welcome home 1st Brigade, resist unconstitutional orders and maintain your humanity.
DTTNWO, LLTR
October 9th, 2008 at 12:08 pm
Homey doesn’t feel so secure in the photo!!! That’s what I think!!! You fuckin’ fire on me…Fuck It…It’s ON!!! Homey sees IT too!!! Y’all fuckin’ need to take heed of just that!!! “I AM ‘THERMAL EXPANSION’!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Fuck It…It’s ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! “On Bended FUCKIN’ knee…”All will ‘HAIL’ Thermal Expansion!!!”
October 9th, 2008 at 12:17 pm
Pretty disgusting. Greg Palast exposes Michigans “forclosure king” who is putting a 100 families a day on to the street. And he rents office space to McSame..Then there is the purging of the voter rolls… If this doesnt piss you off you must already be dead..
At DemocracyNow Dot Org
October 9th, 2008 at 12:24 pm
kind of ironic that a Rothschild is offering counterpoint in this interview. Actually not ironic at all, quite a classic way to limit the issues discussed.
October 9th, 2008 at 12:27 pm
George Bush is technically ‘King of Babylon’ as we speak. Several prophecies concerning the antiChrist fit him. Is he the man of sin? I have no idea, but the more I study the scriptures, the more he fulfills the prophecies. Isaiah 14 says that he turns the world’s cities into a desert (ruins), he ruins his own country, he is a drinker and arrogant (Habukkuk), he kills his own people, and he has prisoners that he refuses to release. End times Babylon is a nation which is represented by an eagle with wings, she believes that she is a queen and will never see sorrow, and she is an instrument of God’s judgment to judge the earth. However, once the Lord has used her as an instrument of wrath, she and her antiChrist king will be judged personally by him in the end. Are we headed in that direction? Time will tell.
October 9th, 2008 at 12:38 pm
#10 William: And where do you live so you can claim the rest are condemned..Mars?
October 9th, 2008 at 12:49 pm
Posse Comitatus is just about dead. sorry but they are now making the rules, and our constitution does not matter.
The elites are holding to the plans that are in place, and these plans are proceding right on schedule.
this shocks some, but in reality this has been in effect for a very, very, long time.
Military troops will increase on our streets, one more good false flag, and martial law will be in effect, and all those who talk a good game will sit in their homes and shake.
Too many talk, well if they fire on me that’s it. I have met many who talk, yell and all the rest, it is the quiet ones you must worry about.
Now the smart ones will start to train, start to organize and become a discillined force. They will set up an underground, and they will go a long and fight within the belly of the beast.
Sure move some troops into the mountains, but an urban war is tougher to fight so stayin the cities and suburbs carry on the fight from there. It is much easier to fortify an area that is bult up then start from scratch.
so now is the time to really organize.
October 9th, 2008 at 12:54 pm
sorry William, but well we are all in this together and yes Americans are dumb, tey do not see what is really going on. They do not see the system for what it is, they hve grown fat and lazy, and only a few are really ready to fight. But America is a huge part of the plan and they have tied all finances into the global network, and if we fall financially so with the other counrties, and that is what they want.
This is one step into the One World government, and everybody suffers.
Sorry mate, but no country is better then any other and all the people of the world are getting screwed, and they are not enjoying it.
But you do see the system, and you got the right brand of Zionist Jew, which is so important. These are the biggerest movers and shakers in the world of NWo, and they are doing their part well.
October 9th, 2008 at 12:54 pm
Sheriff in Ill. County won’t evict in foreclosures
Oct 8, 2:19 PM (ET)
CHICAGO (AP) – Residents of foreclosed properties in Chicago and other parts of Cook County don’t have to worry about deputies forcing them out. Sheriff Tom Dart says that starting Thursday his office won’t take part in evictions.
Dart says he’s concerned that many of the people being evicted are renters who were unaware that their landlords have been failing to pay their mortgages. He says his deputies have no way of knowing whether they’re removing someone who has defaulted on a loan or someone who has been faithfully paying rent.
Dart says he thinks he’s the first sheriff in a major metropolitan area to stop such evictions during the ongoing foreclosure crisis.
Dart says the number of mortgage foreclosures in Cook County has skyrocketed and will probably keep rising.
http://apnews.myway.com/articl.....FL900.html
This kind of Brave action by Law Enforcement officials is what will defeat the plans of the NWO “New World Order” Banker Enslavement of Americans. This is the best example of all it will take to stop the ongoing bank failure madness and scare tactics used by DC. When the Law Enforcement community all finally see through the NWO plans for America, then their plans will fail. Americans are finally stopping and realizing that it is them who control America, and not the fraud banksters and the NWO agenda. The US Military will soon be reacting in the very same way as this Illinois Sheriff has. All it takes is for law enforcement officials to act with common sense and compassion to stop people from being thrown out on to the streets. This Illinois Sheriff will be remembered in history as one of the first to stand up to the NWO bankster frauds coming out of DC and wall street.
October 9th, 2008 at 12:59 pm
What do you think people will say when Martial Law is declared?
October 9th, 2008 at 12:59 pm
When I told a guy I work with (was in the Army for 21 years) about the 3rd id 1st bct being stationed here to help federal authorities enforce law, he looked at me and said, “Well that’s gotta tell ya something, ” he said. “They’re planning for MARTIAL LAW.”
21 year Army vet and it took him less than a second to realize that if Bush was staging troops in Georgia, it was for 1 easily understood thing.
It is a total joke to think that the FBI and fully, and federally, funded city cops complete with SWAT teams and SWAT vehichles and weapons, are unable to provide the Secret Service with adequate bomb detecting abilities. I cannot believe that this IDIOT expects that kind of sh-t to fly.
And what about the issuance of weapons? They have a inherent right to self defense, but only the SECDEF decides if they get weapons? How does that work? The SECDEF decides unless the troops decide? The troops get weapons if they are worried about being attacked but the SECDEF can grant access to weapons? Wanna clarify that for me, so that it doesn’t sound like a bunch of BS double-think?
And what about the “NON-LETHAL” weapons? Does SECDEF and only SECDEF get the say in that? Tasers, goo guns, microwave weapons, vomit cannons, taser drones, and all the other crap that is meant to TORTURE people without killing them most of the time. And wasn’t it the DoD jerk-off’s in the Air Force who were saying that we needed to use these “non-lethal” weapons against US citizens to avoid critisisms abroad for using it on Iraqi’s or Afgani’s? And what are the circumstances that will allow whoever to deploy these weapons?
And another thing. Just because you have done it before, does NOT mean you can do it again. This is BLATANTLY ILLEGAL, and unless the CONSTITUTION was amended in secret and noone knows about it, it does NOT matter what Act Congress passes, or what has happened in the past regarding floods, and huricanes, or whatever, has absolutely NOTHING to do with the fact that using the MILITARY, OUR military, the US f-ck-n ARMY, to enforce laws in the United States is WRONG!!! ILLEGAL!!! An act of war against the American people!!!
We have done NOTHING to deserve this. We have had nothing ever happen in this country that the military was absoluetly needed for law enforcement. We do NOT deserve to be on the wrong side of a m-16/203 grenade launcher just because a few “looters” might try to steal something from your evacuated home. And in the event of a WMD catastophie, who gives a f-ck about what “looters” steal. And what will the military do in that type of event that the cops can’t? If a suitcase bomb goes off and pops a nuke in some major city, what’s a tank and an automatic weapon gonna do? Scare survivors?
MARTIAL LAW, ENFORCED and FORCED CONTAINMENT, PRISON CAMPS, that’s the plan, and it’s so OBVIOUS, you’d have to be on anti-depressants to miss the signs.
October 9th, 2008 at 12:59 pm
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October 9th, 2008 at 1:05 pm
if its for peaceful purposes wouldn’t it be more logical to not be armed to the teeth. that guy in the picture looks a little worried about something. the elites once again telling us whats good for us. like it or not. someone posted a comment “me love you long time” as a warning of what could happen to women here and what the vietnamese women had to resort to to survive. women can you imagine these guys roaming the streets with guns in control of your every movement and that of your children? reminds me of the un peacekeepers sex for food scandal that was swept under the rug.
October 9th, 2008 at 1:08 pm
I just lost $5k !!!!!!!!!!!! You FUCKERS WILL “GET” yours!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I FUCKIN’ PROMISE THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! “Fuck Bended knee….I’ll Thermally Expand your asses!!! “All ‘HAIL’ Thermal Expansion!!!!”
October 9th, 2008 at 1:19 pm
Will they shut down the web first? Or go ahead and carry out a false flag event?
October 9th, 2008 at 1:29 pm
Martial law is coming. Get Food, Water, ammo , firearms .Hid them.Tell no one. Before its too late.
October 9th, 2008 at 1:33 pm
I believe martial law will coming very very soon. Ive been calling around to several gold and silver distributors in the US and they are completely out of gold and silver. Worse even they cannot even get any gold or silver even if they wanted to. They said that the entire country is completely out of gold and silver *the distributors that is*. So investors are buying up gold and silver and its possible that the dollar could be crashing sooner than most people think. Usually right before a currency collapse people around that country buy out all the silver and gold. Get ready guys
October 9th, 2008 at 1:36 pm
When George W. Bush says that the constitution is just God D…mned piece of paper you can rest assure that he places no loyalty or value in what it says. the reason for his behaviour and disdain for the constitution is that it prohibits him from doing what he really wants to, so he has found other ways to circumvent it. Will it be any wonder that if this country actually goes into martial law or police state…………..that it will happen on his watch? at the very least he has set into motion for it to happen under him or the next president. the table has already been set.
October 9th, 2008 at 1:38 pm
I know people are saying that this is illegal and posse comitatus and everything.. and i agree it is corrupt as hell. However, I am more worried about why. Army North. Why not east west south. Why North. What does the gov’t or military know. All I am saying is that living in Indiana, I don’t feel safe.. Especially since we had a N.Carolina marine unit practices urban warfare in Indy over the summer. Now it’s starting to look more and more obvious that they weren’t preparing for Iraq.. since that war is all but over.. and really it’s not a war.. it’s an illegal occupation and blah blah blah. What i’m getting at is the ‘October surprise’ that we have all heard about may be coming soon. In what form? I have no clue. But, I don’t feel safe here and I can’t even get people in my family to admit that i’ve been right this whole time. About the economy and everything. People can bash Infowars and 9/11 truth and Alex Jones. But, just look at what is happening. THIS IS REAL!! We have all been waiting to see what would happen. It’s happening. The dollar will hit zero! Just you wait and see. God help us. Although i’m not religous.
October 9th, 2008 at 1:41 pm
No, most likely the true American Patriot spirit will rise and only those who VIOLATE Posse Comitatus will be dead. God Bless the Republic, Death to the New World Order!
October 9th, 2008 at 1:51 pm
Yes, it is dead… Sorry to say but our idle hands have been the devil’s work… Martial law will work for until some other country goes to the U.N. and requests to re-structure the U.S. as we have done to so many other countries…. OR- until som militia gains enough force to stand against the powers that may be….
October 9th, 2008 at 1:56 pm
Why do all US soldiers now have a gold trimmed American flag that is BACKWARDS on their uniforms these days? When did that start? When they changed the oath from “defend and uphold the Constitution” to “defend the government of the United States”?
October 9th, 2008 at 1:57 pm
why the hell do they need tanks for crowd control?????
October 9th, 2008 at 2:01 pm
Of course it is dead. They are all over New Orleans writing speeding tickets and arresting people. The future of this country is bleak.
October 9th, 2008 at 2:02 pm
I feel the “October Surprise” we’ve all heard about is that Bush will call for a state of emergency because of the financial crisis we are in and suspend the elections. Sounds feasible….especially right now.
October 9th, 2008 at 2:19 pm
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October 9th, 2008 at 2:20 pm
Notice how Boatner could not stop saying ‘homeland’. I do believe there was another country that hyped its military and citizenry to state ‘fatherland’, any takers on what country that was??! Hmmmm?
ps. i know that Germany was propped up by financiers then laid to waste, but the propaganda installed by german leaders to mind-f**k the military and populace has to be viewed with awe. Well, until one analyzes the US citizenry. If someone of authority told a Faux Infotainment viewers that as of tomorrow rain would consist of cows milk and the sky would provide the cereal, one would see bowls sitting outside the next morning. Sad but True!
October 9th, 2008 at 2:21 pm
Colonel Boatner, this is NOT the “homeland;” this is the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. Please don’t confuse the two. “Homeland “is a made-up NAZI sounding term NOT TO BE CONFUSED with OUR BELOVED UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
If you are going to serve our country, for starters, please don’t be disrespectful by using the neo-con engineered term “homeland”. I find it nauseating. (That said, guess I’ll go back and finish the article.) It’s sad the way the military is being brain washed.
October 9th, 2008 at 2:47 pm
A message to all Americans:
START TALKING TO YOUR NEIGHBOURS! Armies of 1 are not enough. I am sure that the more their plans start to reveal themselves, the more people will awaken. The more you keep showing people what’s happening the more they will realize what you’re revealing is true.
START TALKING TO YOUR NEIGHBOURS! Don’t be shy to say to your neighbours ‘listen, when it hits the fan, I am next door, I will help.’ They may think you’re crazy but when they eventually awaken, and they surely will when troops are kicking down doors around them, they will come back to you and say, ‘o.k. you were right. What do we do?’
START TALKING TO YOUR NEIGHBOURS! You can be the REAL patriot, as your neighbours will rally behind you because they will know that you have more information then they, and they will look to you for guidance. You may be young, but you have the knowledge.
I say this to Americans (as opposed to other populaces) because America is the FIRST battleground. It has started on your turf. And as sure as it will spill into other countries (like the EU member states) you can stop it from spilling over. If you can stop the initial incursion, you can win the war for the rest us poor souls.
That being said, we here in other countries must also be diligent to get the word out and start looking to our neighbours to pre-empt this.
Your time is nigh…
October 9th, 2008 at 3:04 pm
The whole “Motherland” thing,..I don’t buy it.
Sounds a bit too Nazi-ish no??
Go after the shit-dicks that caused this economic crisis,..not the people they just robbed for $800,000,000 at gun point.
October 9th, 2008 at 3:19 pm
Urgent notice: The coup on America has already happened
Make this video go viral…….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XgkeTanCGI
October 9th, 2008 at 3:50 pm
My Posse, is on Broadway!
boom chic, boom boom boom chic.
My Posses on BROADWAY !
October 9th, 2008 at 4:01 pm
Time is running short for America.
I feel bad for those that are still in the cities. When SHTF the families with small children are going to have to lay low until after the first wave has passed. Make sure you have at least a four week supply of food and WATER! Make preparations now for your retreat to a rural area where you can rely on help. Buy maps and make multiple copies for your retreat. Motor vehicle travel will likely be restricted, so you will be humping it! If you don’t have a 2nd amendment insurance policy – BUY ONE NOW! Get a good lightweight backpack with a metal frame and a pair of durable, comfortable boots for everyone in your family. Don’t skimp on survival gear – Buy the best you can afford.
As for myself, I’m bugging out this weekend for my mountain retreat with four of my fellow patriots. It is pretty much already stocked, but still need to cut much more wood before it gets too cold.
Things will likely get ugly, but we will prevail!
Get ready fellow countrymen and God bless you all!
October 9th, 2008 at 4:09 pm
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October 9th, 2008 at 4:51 pm
Dear Patriots
Naomi sees the “writing on the wall” regarding the fascist takeover of this country. The bailout bill has a provision giving $100 billion to George Bush to use as he wishes. This bail-out Bill was pushed through Congress with threats of martial law if it was not passed. It was pushed through Congress just like the Patriot Act was pushed through Congress. Fear was the driving force. Fear is used by dictators to take control.
A military brigade from Iraq is being deployed on United States soil now to keep the peace. The Posse Comitatus Act, which forbade the deployment of military troops in this country to enforce the law, was thrown out by the Patriot Act. In 2006, when the Congress was taken back by the Democrats, the Democrats actually did something and reinstated this act. George Bush instead of vetoing it just signed another of his many ” Signing Statements” Which Said That He Would Not Be Bound by This Reinstatement of the Posse Comitatus Act.
Prisons have been built across the country over the last several years by a subsidiary of Halliburton. Journalists were arrested at the Republican national convention. The Electronic Voting Machines Are in Place to Hack Another Election. The mainstream media is completely owned by five multi-national companies. The monetary policy of this country is controlled by international private central bankers which includes the Federal Reserve Bank and the Bank of England.
George Bush must be arrested for treason before it is too late.
Watch Naomi Wolf talk about the fascist take-over being in its “end game” stage.
Sincerely,
Joe,Webmaster, http://www.911insidejob.net
E-Mail:911insidejob@bushstole04.com
October 9th, 2008 at 4:58 pm
Here’s an enlightening quote from that wicked bastard Thomas Malthus:
“All children who are born, beyond what would be required to keep up the population to a desired level, must necessarily perish, unless room be made for them by the death of grown persons…. Therefore … we should facilitate, instead of foolishly and vainly endeavoring to impede, the operations of nature in producing this mortality; and if we dread the too frequent visitation of the horrid form of famine, we should sedulously encourage the other forms of destruction, which we compel nature to use. “Instead of recommending cleanliness to the poor, we should encourage contrary habits. In our towns we should make the streets narrower, crowd more people into the houses, and court the return of the plague. In the country, we should build our villages near stagnant pools, and particularly encourage settlement in all marshy and unwholesome situations. But above all we should reprobate specific remedies for ravaging diseases; and restrain those benevolent, but much mistaken men, who have thought they are doing a service to mankind by protecting schemes for the total extirpation of particular disorders.” –Malthus, ibid.
October 9th, 2008 at 5:59 pm
these guys are shagging you lot right up the anus while you lot are still debating it.they have done what they have to do and you still have no idea what the fuck is going on. we know the media is theirs ,we know the election is rigged we know the war in iraq is fake, we know the fed is corrupt -but do it now or shut the fuck up. all of you look at our site bnp.org thats how to stick up for your country!!! lets rock
October 9th, 2008 at 6:05 pm
listen up people we need troops on our streets to stop enemies cells that might try to organize like al quada. just think if the state of georgia had troops on the streets our peach producing state would not have gotten invaded by russia. the troops would have stopped them. So stop hating on our soldiers who are willing to die to protect you from al quada and russia. iM PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN WHERE AT LEAST I KNOW IM FREE AND I WONT FORGET THE MEN WHO DIED SO I COULD EAT KENTUCKY fried CHICKEN. I FORGET THE LYRICS
October 9th, 2008 at 6:08 pm
sorry about that its bnp .co.uk just see what our country is going through as well -half of fucking africa is here with their knives ,drugs, people trafficking ,all of their multicultural goings on. it is hell on earth in europe as well it is all part of their plan of divide and rule no surrender to anybody
October 9th, 2008 at 6:11 pm
This is bizarre , the USA came into being because of civil unrest , now they are making it illegal for you to be upset if the Government wants to sodomize the general public , guess Hilter doesn’t like any competition !!!!
October 9th, 2008 at 6:48 pm
I can answer that question, Yes, it has been dead for a bit now.
October 9th, 2008 at 6:52 pm
Who’s running this Blog anyway? The CI friggen A?
October 9th, 2008 at 6:53 pm
#44…Your a F***ING IDIOT!…and should be charged with TREASON for betraying the Constitution! …and there is a difference between Bush and Hitler, Hitler could actually read and write(Bush can’t even complete a sentence)…FYI you’ll be marched to the D.C.’s to my friend…
October 9th, 2008 at 6:58 pm
Oh and #41 Joe, Webmaster 911insidejob.net, that is some scary(and true) stuff Naomi informs us about!
October 9th, 2008 at 7:05 pm
It smells like the latest round of problem-reaction-solution. Problem=orchestrate a financial meltdown culminating in the final death throes of the dollar to be accompanied by another false flag terror attack( perceived to be credible because of our ‘vulnerability’) just to expedite everything along. Reaction=mass panic with a military contingency in place to ‘restore order’ (euphemism for martial law. How coincidental that they’re ALREADY in place) Solution= A newly elected President Obama arrives on the scene as a ’soothing influence’ to ‘calm our fears’ and ease us into accepting the installation of the North American Union because ‘it has become evident for this necessity in an increasingly dangerous world to further consolidate our family of nations so as to further strengthen our international resolve against this terrorist threat.’ Or words to that effect. I can hear it now. This will set the stage for plans for a third world war as they continue to fulfill the contrived books of prophecy.
October 9th, 2008 at 7:05 pm
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=X4rD6muiCd4
October 9th, 2008 at 7:12 pm
I am tired of these neo cons trying to stop our truth seeking. We should go to their websites like 911myths.com and wtc7lies.googlepages.com and see their lies and tell others about them. WE ARE FREEDOM FIGHTERS LETS GO TO THEIR WEBSITES AND EXPOSE THE TRUTH.
October 9th, 2008 at 7:49 pm
Veteran for hire….
http://www.myspace.com/928s4love
October 9th, 2008 at 7:55 pm
how many times does Lieutenant Colonel Jamie Goodpaster, refer to the republic as “the Homeland”?
October 9th, 2008 at 10:00 pm
Welcome to Germany, the year is 1938.. Except this time it is not Germany and it is not 1938.
History is repeating itself folks, I hope everybody understands that.
October 9th, 2008 at 10:28 pm
I do not think that Obama will be the one trying to unite the North American Alliance, but McCain-Palin. Instead of having Alaska drop out of the USA she will have Canada and the U.S. join into one. Perhaps even with Mexico. I do not see this happening under an Obama, Biden administration. They are not neocons.
October 9th, 2008 at 10:32 pm
You know if they removed Posse comitatus, they did it for a reason. They plan to use the troops against the folks at some point. They do not take such drastic measures without a plan.
October 10th, 2008 at 2:12 am
PTSD???
according to the media, the military has been doing a terrible job with returning troops. I don’t buy into what the media says, but what are citizens supposed to think?
October 10th, 2008 at 3:27 am
Only Congress can repeal Possie Comitatus.Bush orders military against the american people
makes him a felon subject to arrest by anyone receiving such an order.
October 10th, 2008 at 3:58 am
#61 is correct. Bush’s little tin-horn dictator attitude is going to get him in a lot of shit sooner or later. The only place he CAN hide is in one of those underground bunkers because if Americans find out where he is, they don’t have enough security for his sorry ass.
October 10th, 2008 at 6:50 am
We’re asking all the good cops world wide to uphold Posse Comitatus regardless of king George’s dictatorship!!!
LETS WORK TOGETHER….
If you don’t know what it is? Find Out!!!!!!!
Checkout the Policelink Posse Comitatus in the stats and data…
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=yYQ6R3aT0Js
October 10th, 2008 at 6:52 am
Alex and LaRouche step up to the plate…
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=dfCbzHQjheU
October 10th, 2008 at 8:01 am
Sit tight infowarriors. They are just trying to provoke some domestic terrorists into action. Looks like they will have to use the “western looking” terrorists in their back pocket instead.
October 10th, 2008 at 10:53 am
Matthew Rothschild?
October 10th, 2008 at 12:44 pm
Does anyone find it ironic that our founding fathers rebelled and overthrew the tyranny of King George during the Revolutionalry War and now there is a “New King George”? Does he intend to declare martial law so that he can remain in power?