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Israel Sends Ground Troops into Gaza
Kurt Nimmo
Prison Planet.com
Saturday, January 3, 2009
On Saturday, Israel graduated from its murderous bombing raids on Gaza to sending soldiers into the locked-down territory. “For the first time since the start of Operation Cast Lead, IDF ground troops entered the Gaza Strip on Saturday evening, exchanging fire with Hamas gunmen,” reports the Jerusalem Post. “The IDF said that a large amount of troops from the Armored Corps, Engineering Corps and Infantry Corps entered the territory with the purpose of destroying Hamas infrastructure… The IDF warned that terrorists using civilians as human shields would bear full responsibility for their fate.”
Earlier in the day, Israel dropped leaflets over the sprawling open-air prison where 1.4 million Palestinians live, most on less than two dollars a day. “Leaflets signed by the commander of the Israeli military were dropped over northern Gaza on Saturday morning, warning residents to ‘leave the area immediately’ to ensure their safety,” reports CNN.
CNN did not note that this is at best a sadistic joke because the “residents,” or gulag inmates, have nowhere to go to escape the onslaught as the whole of Gaza is a free-fire zone. In essence, the leaflet is a flaccid attempt to make an excuse for the slaughter that will soon take place. Israel will claim it had warned the “residents” of Gaza, so they cannot be held responsible for the mass murder that is about to take place.
Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak admitted as much when he declared the bombardment of Gaza is “war to the bitter end.”
“Due to the terrorist actions undertaken by terrorist elements from the region of your residences against the state of Israel, the Israel Defense Forces are compelled to respond immediately in the region of your residences. For your safety, you are ordered to leave the area immediately,” the leaflets say.
In fact, the state of Israel, run by fanatical nationalists, considers all Palestinian Arabs as little more than terrorists. In 1969, Golda Meir, the prime minister of Israel, declared there “is no such thing as a Palestinian people.” Instead of a people, the state of Israel considers the Palestinians a motley assemblage of terrorists who are to be slaughtered, not negotiated with.
On December 30, four leading Israeli rabbis sanctioned the high-tech murder of the civilian population of Gaza. “The ruling seems to give a free hand to Israeli commanders to attack Gaza’s civilian population and persuade those troops who have reservations to kill civilians due to humanitarian considerations,” reported Press TV. “The rabbis argued that the army should announce that it would bomb any civilian community from which a rocket is fired to force the local residents into confronting those who fire rockets or mortars at Israeli targets.”
In other words, the Palestinians are not allowed to defend themselves against saturation bombing and invasion.
As usual, the excuse provided for this barbarism is that Hamas fired first with their puny rockets.
“Conscientious Israelis acknowledge that the Hamas rockets rationale is fraudulent,” Dennis Rahkonen wrote on January 1. “Israeli apologists have presented absurd propaganda about those devices…. At any point during the past six decades, Israel could have had peace, simply by assenting to the great moral imperative of our time, namely the Palestinians’ right to their own, unitary, sovereign homeland.”
Conscientious Israelis, however, seem to be in short supply. According to a Haaretz-Dialog poll released on January 1, “52 percent of respondents favor continuing the air campaign. Nineteen percent say the Israeli army should send in troops on the ground.” Only 19 percent of Israelis say the government should negotiate an immediate cease-fire, reports VOA News. Moreover, the indiscriminate bombing campaign has provided Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert with a popularity boost. More than half of Israelis are satisfied with Barak’s performance compared to just 34 percent six months ago.
Meanwhile, in the United States, those who naively believed the election of Obama would change the situation are discouraged. Obama’s selection of “Hillary Clinton as Secretary of State and Rahm Emanuel as chief of staff, have raised doubts that much will change,” reports Reuters. “The Arab world was largely enthusiastic about Obama’s election victory in November, in the belief that a fresh face in the White House must be better than outgoing President George W. Bush, who invaded Iraq and gave strong support to Israel.” Paul Salem, director of the Carnegie Institute’s Middle East Center in Beirut, noted that Obama “will not put large amounts of pressure on the Israelis” and “will not force Israel (into concessions).”
In fact, support for Israel’s genocidal actions against the Palestinians is part of the ongoing globalist “divide and conquer” strategy designed to sow discord among Muslims and bring Islam into disrepute, as Peter Meyer notes. Hamas is part of this “clash of civilizations” campaign, a fact unrealized by most Palestinians.
Hamas was founded in 1987 by the Palestinian branch of the Muslim Brotherhood.”The Islamic Resistance Movement is one of the wings of Moslem Brotherhood in Palestine. Moslem Brotherhood Movement is a universal organization which constitutes the largest Islamic movement in modern times,” states the Hamas Charter (see How Britain Helps Hamas And The Muslim Brotherhood).
At its core the Muslim Brotherhood consists of “secretive bankers and financiers who stand behind the curtain, the members of the old Arab, Turkish, or Persian families whose genealogy places them in the oligarchical elite, with smooth business and intelligence associations to the European black nobility and, especially, to the British oligarchy,” writes Robert Dreyfuss. “By allying with the Muslim Brotherhood, the Anglo-Americans are not merely buying into a terrorists-for-hire racket; they are partners in a powerful and worldwide financial empire that extends from numbered Swiss bank accounts to offshore havens in Dubai, Kuwait and Hong Kong.”
Hamas’ ludicrously ineffective and crude rocket attacks on Israel are designed to villainize the Israeli intelligence spawned terrorist group. As exit polls conducted by the Palestinian Center for Policy and Public Opinion during the election revealed, Fatah received 42 percent of the vote and Hamas 35 percent. “Palestinian pollsters were at a loss to explain the discrepancy between the exit polls and the result,” the Associated Press reported at the time. “The concern is that the victory by Hamas means there will be an all-out Palestinian war with Israel since Hamas will not only control its own forces but will also yield authority over the 50,000 police that belong to the Palestinian Authority. Hamas does not recognize the State of Israel and is sworn to its destruction,” writes J. Adams (see previous link).
Israel’s attack on the Gaza Strip is but another chapter in the global elite’s “clash of civilizations” agenda, the ultimate result being the establishment of a world government under the dictatorial control of the banking elite. Israel, of course, has its own agenda, but it is merely a subset of a larger globalist plan. It was, after all, Baron Edmond de Rothschild who nurtured Zionism in the 1880s. Between 1884 and 1934, Rothschild donated about $6 million, an enormous sum at the time, to the project that ultimately resulted in the creation of the state of Israel.
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January 3rd, 2009 at 1:06 pm
There is no hope for our whole race we are animals, sick twisted mutant fuckers!
Fuck GOD!!!!!!!!!!
January 3rd, 2009 at 1:07 pm
all jews must die
January 3rd, 2009 at 1:15 pm
the Israel-Hamas incidents unfolding would be something compared to Mexico saying that they want texas back from the USA. We refuse and so then mexico would hire MS-13 to carry out there military strategies. Hamas is a gang.
Im not defending Israel, i am just defending Israel’s actions.
January 3rd, 2009 at 1:20 pm
same thing
January 3rd, 2009 at 1:34 pm
NO! All Zionists must die. But this situation cannot be fought on the ground over in the M.E. People world wide must take matters into their own hands now and trickle down the solution at the head. Zionist collaborators, enablers and supporters outside of Israehell need to find themselves 6 feet under ASAP.
January 3rd, 2009 at 1:36 pm
You are a bunch of morons Israel is attaking palestine because they want the gas deposits and oil underneath palestinian sea in mediterraneo. 60 % correspond to palestine but israel want it all. Egipt does not anything because they are part of the gas contract signed by themselves and British Gaz.
January 3rd, 2009 at 1:42 pm
#1 and #2 are doing nothing but bringing shame to the legitimate awakening that Alex and others are doing. If you must comment, please be respectful and contribute intelligent thoughts.
January 3rd, 2009 at 1:46 pm
im sick of seeing lil babys and kids crying and most ppl ignoring it.
whats wrong with all this ppl ?
kill 50 ppl only to say later there was maybe a hamas and its ok to kill all the ppl
humans are no animals animals will never do things like that
mass killing for fun (like the dancing isreal soldiers that happy to shoot some humans)
i see so many times documentations here in germany about the Jews in the WW2 and they telling us so many times how poor it is to kill children and woman and they do the same now
im no anti-semite or something else but when i see the poor children injured/dead im very angry about all humans that ignoring it or happy about it
in 1 week 50 babys, children dead u guys can very proud of u … NOT !!
January 3rd, 2009 at 1:51 pm
I’m watching ehud barak speak right now. He’s got that “soft look” that Alex talks about. Complete evil embodied….
January 3rd, 2009 at 1:56 pm
it’s about time they went in to take out the rocket launchers and them who are firing them !
clean up the militants and finally have some peace !
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January 3rd, 2009 at 1:57 pm
Go Israel!!! Safety to all the IDF!!! F’ Hamas! F’ Radical Islamic Extremists!!! May they all rot in their own hatred. May the United States wake up and destroy all the Radical Islamic Extremists already on U.S. Soil–before they have a chance to spew their hate and violence on us. Hamas is the largest terrorist organization on U.S. soil. They have cells in over 40 US. states. We need to be viligant to stop them from radicalizing our youth, and stop their dream and longterm goal of replacing Constitutional Law as the law of our land, with Sharia Law—the anti-gay, anti-women, anti-freedom of religion goals for the United States. May the Palestinian people choose a moderate muslim government. May the Arab Countries in the Middle East stop their call for jihad, and work for a moderate, peaceful middle east, where they finally recognize and accept Israel’s right to exist.
watch: The Third Jihad www. the thirdjihad.com
go to: http://www.americancongressfortruth.com
January 3rd, 2009 at 1:59 pm
alex jones has that soft look, too.
January 3rd, 2009 at 2:01 pm
we should have let hitler wipe you out then sorted out the islam then we could have had peace.now we have another war around the corner only this time most of the world will die and the few who will survive will eradicate the jews and the muslims and then their will be peace and a chance for man kind
January 3rd, 2009 at 2:03 pm
jews, have fun killing women and children. Your next.
January 3rd, 2009 at 2:09 pm
right, like Hamas is going to take over america! What a friggin joke! Looks like the shills and koolaid drinkers are up and moving! Good morning guys, I’m looking forward to you spewing zionest/neocon(Nazi) propaganda! I don’t think you understand how absurd you sound advocating the murder of unarmed women and children.
January 3rd, 2009 at 2:15 pm
This website has been infiltrated with Godless satanic Nazis, and new age globalist sympathizers. Its really something to see all these despotic hate mongers and disinformationists
drag the truth movement through the mud. Lets us know how close we are getting doesn’t it.
January 3rd, 2009 at 2:16 pm
In 20 years or so we will all look back an the 2 terms of George W. Bush and see what a great President he was. His war on terror has made us a stronger country and has tremendously weakened the muslim terrorist organizations. I wish he could have been re-elected again.
January 3rd, 2009 at 2:20 pm
I’ve tried several times to post my comment on Huffington Post but apparently it is being moderated by Zionists. My comment was that whenever any of Israel’s politicians leave Israel and travel to another country they should immediately be arrested and placed on trial for crimes against humanity. Once Israel realizes that the rest of the world won’t tolerate their brutality and isolate them, then perhaps they will change their tactics. After all, Israel is just killing Palestinians so the politicians will get votes. I’m hoping that Hamas will kill as many IDF as possible, just like Hezbullah did in Lebanon. Let’s give Hamas tanks, planes, gunboats, etc. and then see how well the chickenshit IDF will do.
January 3rd, 2009 at 2:22 pm
Good point #13! Let’s spread our own hatred on them before they can get to us! They’re hatred will never ruin this shitty country that’s already been ruined by enough hatred to kill off a whole planet! Yay I love wallowing in my own stupidity!
January 3rd, 2009 at 2:25 pm
maui charlie—how can u be so ignorant.? oh! i know! you are sitting in Maui, living the aloha life, sipping on your coconut juice, while the rest of us are actually watching what is going on in our cities and towns. we are watching huge number of pro-Hamas protests on US soil, where they are burning American flags. I feel sorry for our country, to have idiots like you here, who take advantage of our freedoms, and contribute NOTHING but vitriol for your own country. you are the one sipping kool aid, by not being vigilant to protect our own country. Trust me, Brittain did not see it coming that they were letting too many Muslims migrate into their country…and now it is too late. They have been taken over—now they have a terrorism problem inside their country. Parliament is officially held hostage. If they support the US and Israel, they will get bombs in their shopping centers, suicide bombers in their markets, by some extremist radical Islamic group. They are F’d. I am just trying to wake up a few patiots here in the US and bring them to the understanding of what is actually going on right now in this country.
January 3rd, 2009 at 2:28 pm
There have been very little civilian casualities in Gaza. The majority of people who have been killed are Hamas terrorists.
January 3rd, 2009 at 2:29 pm
Ya, the western powers are quick to invade on condition that the group to receive the ground invasion cannot put a cessna up into the air. They can really practice their bravery on those conditions.
They aren’t israelis they are schoolyard bullies.
The Royal Families did the same thing to the natives here in north america. Atrocities until the whole culture gave up. I guess it’s happened before.
January 3rd, 2009 at 2:30 pm
the truth only is dragged through the mud when it’s wrapped in a gillie suit setting up for the that perfect sniper shot to take out the zionest comand entity! LOL
January 3rd, 2009 at 2:35 pm
@anonymous
once again your talking shit i live in the UK and their is no truth to what you say most of the migrants are polish and east european. over run with muslims BOLLOCKS!!
January 3rd, 2009 at 2:38 pm
when the last jew and the last muslim has been ERADICATED on this planet then man kind will live in peace
January 3rd, 2009 at 2:38 pm
Islam is the enemy of the west and has been for 1400 years. Wake up. Because of our decadence they have been able to invade our countries. Soon they will attack us more. How stupid to blame 9/11 on Bush. How about all of the other terrorist attacks, are they all Bush?
At least Israel has some guts. Most of you are a bunch of pussies who hate their own country and love the enemy more, but they do not feel the same, and when they have the upper hand they will cut you down. Fools.
January 3rd, 2009 at 2:41 pm
hey # 20, on the idea of arresting israels “War criminals”.You know what Russa’s Gazprom just did tho the Ukraine. That is what will happen to the 1st country to step up to the plate and start arresting israeli bad boys. Just think about the tangled fishing line mega-chinese puzzle that would create. You would have to put out arrest warrants for so many people and not just israelis. The hooked up bankers would strangle relevant economies.
The cops use the same tactics here when groups start to go after their tasers, they put out word in a subtle manner that more people are going to die of gunshot wounds.
The law of the jungle applies in this case and every case really, they are strong and the strong make the laws. The law won’t interfere with them.
January 3rd, 2009 at 2:44 pm
#22, I’ll have you know that I’m here to get away from tow-the-line neocon sympathizers like you.
We don’t floridate our water here and tend to think in healthy, renewable parameters.
You should also know that the Hawaiian people are victims of the same empirialism and domination being faced by the palastinians today.
Queen Liliokalani was forced at gunpoint to surrender her nations sovernty to Dole and his plantation cronies (us backed by the way, the guns were those of US marines).
There is a fight here now to regain hawaiian sovernty.
You’re on the titanic, I’m In A lifeboat, by concious choice….
January 3rd, 2009 at 2:53 pm
Palestine people are very brave people while Nazi Israel is most hated place on this planet.
Gaza people are dying for ALL muslims!!!! I am sad to see regimes / Egypt, Saudi, Jordan /in bed with Zionists – Zionists will newer stop, they want to control whole Middle East untrll they can rename it to UNITED ARAB OCCUPAID TERRITORIES. Irecomend ewerybody to read “Protocols of Elders of Zion”, Zionism is Satanic ideology and if Muslims worlwide dont unite, Zionist pigs will one day make from Mekka their “toilet” and I mean it, they dont respect lives of people of other nations, its most sadistic fashist ideology occupaing not only Palestine, Golans, Sheeba F, but MAINLY !!!!! US Gowernment with number of their lobby groups like “evil” AIPAC and US and world media. Its pity that US population is actually slaves to NeoZionist masters. Palestine people are dying for their land in Israels made GAZA prison, US people should learn their tactics – soon Fashism in US will come to open to suprise to many US people. … I am angry writing this, but should not be for US full support, this MASSACRE and HOLOCAUST would not happend. LOng live to people like Ron Paul, Norman Finkelstein and to only chanel PRESS TV covering 24 hourss a day tragedy of Palestine.
January 3rd, 2009 at 2:54 pm
Oh and I guess they would probably want the Gaza strip occupied and under their control before any offensive against Iran right. Just to be on the safe side.
January 3rd, 2009 at 2:54 pm
The good news is that the US will collapse in the next few years. It will sort of suck for the millions of Americans that will die, but they should have cared more about their so called democracy anyways.
January 3rd, 2009 at 2:55 pm
You should also know that my ggg-grandfather marched under the original Gadsden Flag. We arrived in S.C. In 1684.
Don’t for one second question my patriotism. I support holeheartedly the great documents that initiated this country. And I rebuke any who would alter it’s origional spirit one iota!
January 3rd, 2009 at 2:57 pm
Seriously, when one looks at history and the evils that these Edomite Israelie turds have brought on, the control of all wars, the control of banking – how can one not hate them with a righteous hatred? They get all that they have coming to them.
January 3rd, 2009 at 3:08 pm
Sorry spell checking seems to take a back seat when slapping a zionest. I think I left out a couple of g’s as well.
January 3rd, 2009 at 3:16 pm
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January 3rd, 2009 at 3:20 pm
Israel is the best and most loyal friend of the USA. Long live Israel and long live the GOP!!!! USA ROCKS!!!!
January 3rd, 2009 at 3:23 pm
Isreal is the best friend of lobbyist, bankers and hollywood. Which are you killall
January 3rd, 2009 at 3:26 pm
A loyal friend does not blackmail you into giving them millions in foreign aid every year so they can turn around and buy U.S. made weapons for so-called self-defense when its really extermination.The Israeli government is no better than the nazis.
January 3rd, 2009 at 3:27 pm
I love America!! I love George Bush!!
January 3rd, 2009 at 3:28 pm
he is just a prick ,kill all have you finished wanking over the star of david
January 3rd, 2009 at 3:31 pm
I hate this fucking america…biggest enemy of the peace in the world…killers of innocent people all around the world. shame on so called civilised western society for supporing the ONLY TERRORIST STATE ‘ISRAEL’. get a life u fuking sickos…stop killing innocent people.
January 3rd, 2009 at 3:33 pm
I’ll say a prayer for you john, you need some help. Why are you such an angry person? Were you abused as a child? Do you abuse children as an adult? Let me help you john, I think you might just need a hug.
January 3rd, 2009 at 3:40 pm
so you can stab me in the back judas
January 3rd, 2009 at 3:44 pm
You did not answer the questions john, tell me about the abuse.
January 3rd, 2009 at 3:48 pm
Any one who loves George Bush is sick and the enemy of humanity. I think nobody should waste their time with such retards.
January 3rd, 2009 at 3:50 pm
are you try tell every one what you must have gone thru
January 3rd, 2009 at 3:53 pm
You all understand that everytime George Bush ran for president he won!! I just wish he could have run again, because the war on terror is not over. I hope and pray that God will give obama the inner strength to continue on with the foundation laid by President Bush.Long live the USA!! Long live Israel!!
January 3rd, 2009 at 3:58 pm
what is happening there is what we’ll have in the near future , welcome to the US of hell
January 3rd, 2009 at 4:00 pm
You need severe help if you are against Israel any way shape or form. Violence isn’t cool, when Muslims want Israel wiped off the face of the Earth, I bet you Nazi Sympathizers agree
your some sick puppies
January 3rd, 2009 at 4:04 pm
Ignore the ignorant and move on. Going straight through all these issues is not doing anything. Get creative and start going around the people who get in your way. Screaming these things does not help but instead stops us from bringing this Country back to the status of when the world looked up to it. When we bicker we loose site of the the true goal. All sides of argument need to be seen and addressed so we can ( as a country ) come to a conclusion that suites us all. Instead of attacking people who have a different Opinion. Find out WHY they have that opinion and discuss it. America has been brought away from the true nature of what it is about. If the founding fathers argued like this the Constitution would never have been written. I do believe argument did happen. At least we have the forum to do it in without the threat of being hung! ( Well!!!!! ) So please take advantage of it!
I do admit that while I was asleep I voted for Bush both times. It was a blind and ignorant Vote. That will never happen again and I am sorry to all of you who tried to get the message out about this person for not listening!
There is nothing but Love. What degree of it are you going to show!
January 3rd, 2009 at 4:07 pm
All of you Israel and Jewish haters, why don’t you make a pact. You should all boycott and never use any medicine, medical procedure, doctor, hospital, or any invention that came from Israel or a Jew. Lets see how your lives would be……. Think about it? How many of you would be crippled today with Polio?
January 3rd, 2009 at 4:09 pm
Get real. Don’t you realize the irony of accusing others of wanting to wipe israel off the map while they are literally wiping Palestine off the map as we speak? Even the fox news watching fools are not going to believe the jews who cried wolf any more.
January 3rd, 2009 at 4:20 pm
Israel is a civilized nation trying to carry on a civilized existence. I suppose you will argue that all of the arab/muslim world is just doing the same? I guess you will say the USA deserved 9-11? I guess you will say Israel deserves suicide bombings, rockets launched at them, bus bombings.etc…. Yes, your argument makes perfect sense.
January 3rd, 2009 at 4:24 pm
people get ready to see more of this for the next six months, the jews blasting countries all over the place untill Sweden get the spotlight in june heading the european union. Theres no hope untill june, rockenfelder and rothschilds are gonna take advantege of this situacion as Kissinger said to get closer to the NWO goals. The now headers of the EU is Check Republic wich is headed by no other than Mr Shartzenberg( is that sound familiar to you ?) a jew on the Rhotschilds books. So pray and hope for the world to resist this jewish attack on our beloved world.
January 3rd, 2009 at 4:33 pm
9/11 was done with the full knowledge of the american govt., in part by The isreali’s (Syret maktal). Isreali pilots flew those planes. Don’t get confused, get educated. Isreal was created through the manipulation of Rockefeller interest’s by Ben-Gurion and other slimey, zionist-racist bastards. Not that Rockefeller’s (David) any good either, they managed to manipulte him by threatening to make public his full support and complicity of the NAZI’s. The leaders of this world are capitalistic-racist’s. That’s it. Weather Jewish/Isreali or american/german.
The NAZI’s were created to destroy jewish communism, then shit got out of hand; the NAZI’s had to close shop and go underground, selling cocaine and guns in south america. The zionist’s control everything.
It’s time to take our world back. Stop being ignorant and be educated, save yourself and your familly, nothing else matters.
January 3rd, 2009 at 4:39 pm
# 31 petr vojta———– Mecca and Medina are beyond their reach. They can combine all their forces of the earth and other aliens forces to capture these two holy sites with all their timid weapons system known or unknown to man, yet Mecca and Medina is beyond their reach.
These cowards can only fight unarmed civilians. Yet they face defeat with rocks and shoes.
January 3rd, 2009 at 4:40 pm
Ha ha ha…….. you all make me laugh……….. Thank God for George Bush and than God for the Israeli Army!! Move forward fine soldiers!!!
January 3rd, 2009 at 4:50 pm
I saw Dick Cheney hiding in the bushes in gaza shooting rockets! I saw his wife at the hobby shop buying all of the Estes rockets! Alex wants me on his show Monday , so I can tell all 8 of his audience what I saw!
January 3rd, 2009 at 4:57 pm
John Kent, mate….no dis respect but Britain is over run with Muzzies.. Bradford and Leeds is like one big nan bread mate.
January 3rd, 2009 at 4:57 pm
dick chaney is in an undisclosed location blowing donkeys!
January 3rd, 2009 at 4:58 pm
#54
LOL!!!!! Israel is protecting itself. Would you? They too have Political Problems, Should Israel just say in a soft voice to ask for the Rockets, suicide bombers, Etc. to seize. Just to appease to the world? It is a tragedy to hear that Americans side with Arab, Muslim world and would let Israel go down in flames. No difference in your mind 54 than a German citizen in 1944 living next to a Extermination camp doing nothing about it. Because you should admit it, you hate Jews. Just admit it.
January 3rd, 2009 at 5:00 pm
This article is CNN rubbish. The Jewish State is bursting into Gaza to do some ethnic cleaning, and to install a puppet government of its choosing, and just using the toy rocket throwing from the people they are keeping captives, as an excuse. Why in the world is prisonplanet allowing CNN as authority on Israel’s motives? Hmmmm!
January 3rd, 2009 at 5:01 pm
PRAY NOT FOR JOHN KENT. HIS SOUL IS MINE. A LAKE OF FIRE AWAITS THOSE WHO WOULD OPPRES THE CHOSEN PEOPLE OF ISRAEL. DIVERSITY TRAINING WILL NOT HELP KENT FOR HE HAS PAST THE POINT OF REDEMPTION
January 3rd, 2009 at 5:01 pm
#60 Me…..pssssst, I heard that 8 Israeli soldiers were in the bushes pulling a train on your mother. The soldiers told me that they appreciate your mother’s services keeping the troops happy.
January 3rd, 2009 at 5:02 pm
THE JEWS OF ISRAEL HAVE DECLARED EVERY NON-JEW MALE OVER THE AGE OF EIGHT PRESENT IN GAZA TO BE A MILITARY TARGET TO BE EXTERMINATED ON SIGHT UNDER ANY PRETEXT WHATSOEVER.
The deal is the same as Blair and Bush’s holocaust in Fallujah. The jewish controlled mass media has stated that no non-jew male over the age of eight may be described as a ‘civilian’ victim of jewish genocide. In other words, the BBC, CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC, AP, AFP, Reuters, Fox networks etc all state that any jewish-Israeli military strike on Gaza that murders at least one ‘military-age male (over 8 years old) is legally justified, no matter how many other people are murdered alongside.
This ring a bell? Remember a little thing called the ‘Srebrenica massacre’. This event involved one of the closest allies of Israel, Serbia, acting under jewish-Israeli instructions (just as with the attempted Georgian genocide of Ossetia. The Serbs, following this guidance, took all the ‘military aged males’ from the town of Srebrenica, and murdered every last one for the crime of being ‘muslim’. The Israeli military advisors controlling Serbian operations had promised that this event would carry no backlash, but they were merely using the Serbs as ‘pathfinders’. In other words, ‘grooming’ the world for when jewish forces would openly do the same to ‘muslim’ males under their control.
Of course, prior to the racist psychopaths from the jewish state of Israel arming the Serbs, and directing their genocide of the muslims of Bosnia (the famous bread queue massacres were carried out using fragmentation mortars specifically sold to the Serbs by Israel for that very purpose), the same racist psychopaths had provided their brothers in depravity in the Apartheid state of South Africa with nuclear weapons. When ‘black’ people were finally allowed to take pretend power in their own nation, the first act of the West was to remove the nuclear weapons from South Africa.
Anyway, the jewish-Israeli holocaust in Gaza just foreshadows the global holocausts that will eliminate most, if not all, Human life across our planet. The USA will suffer the same fate as nazi Germany, as nuclear and biological warfare show the futility of the most sophisticated states supporting the most depraved of human activities. At some point, even the jews will start to cry, as the pyrrhic nature of their ‘victory’ becomes apparent. By then, it will be too late, because the real demons will have their WORLD WAR, every holocaust weapon will be unleashed, and Mankind will be finished.
January 3rd, 2009 at 5:05 pm
#66 , Bush was going to help him , but he was busy making the 737 run off the runway in Denver. He is also planning one more Hurricane before he leaves office!
January 3rd, 2009 at 5:07 pm
In response to “kill all terrorists” – shall l come round your house, board it up, and not you out or anyone in with food, medicine or utilities. Then when you start throwing stones thru the letter box and banging on the door, l’ll look at this as an act of terror on your neighbour, and kick down your door and kill your family who have nothing to do with your “protest” but then “hey” who cares cos your little life means nothing as long as your rich and powerful neighbour is happy. MURDERER !!!!!
January 3rd, 2009 at 5:15 pm
Israel wants piece….. A piece of palastinian over here, a piece of palastinian over there. They are murdering scum.
January 3rd, 2009 at 5:30 pm
I am not pro jew far from it but I am enjoying watching HAMAS take a good pounding,flatten the whole place as far as I care it’s a terrorist run dump anyway.
January 3rd, 2009 at 5:34 pm
hey jerk, why do you think it’s a terrorist dump? Couldn’t have anything to do with stealing their land, jamming them in a concentration camp and then starving them.
I would become a terrorist if that was done to me or mine!
January 3rd, 2009 at 5:34 pm
i think bush asked israel to attack just to get peoples minds off of 911, the economy, iraq and afghan wars.
a little distraction for an outgoing president. then while the world watches israel, the buggers leave with the trillions of dollars printed supposedly for the bankers, and sneak out the back door.
January 3rd, 2009 at 5:40 pm
Hey Sijoco……Ain’t gonna happen…… Israel and USA rule……. You don’t!!! HAHAHAHA You are a gnat!!!!
January 3rd, 2009 at 5:46 pm
I still say that, as long as ONE Israeli and ONE Palestinian is alive, there will be war, fighting and the only way either people will stop, is if the other is completely, and totally annihilated. This is genocide, Hitler style on the Palestinian people, but HEY… American turned our backs on Hitler, so now it’s time to turn our back on Israel, and let them have their fun. I give this whole mess, until Obama actually gets ready to take office, things will cool down about a week or two before his inauguration, and then after all that, a finally death blow will be given to Palestine…and Israel will claim the lands as their own.
Reminds me of an old Poem,
When the Nazis came for the communists,
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.
When they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.
When they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.
When they came for the Jews,
I remained silent;
I was not a Jew.
When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out.
Turning a blind eye, and our back, will not make the problems go away…
January 3rd, 2009 at 5:46 pm
The US is a terrorist dump full of fat lazy uneducated morons. The sooner they are plunged into chaos by their own successive governments and they put troops in the street to kill the idiot US civilians causing the unrest the better. Can’t fucking wait.
January 3rd, 2009 at 5:47 pm
Fuck GOD!!
I mean it! All we here is BULL SHIT like God given land, in god we trust, Ala Akbar (God is great) and people killing and maiming people all of the time in the name of the lord! I very slim section (Many come here) of people truly know what the real story is, the rest are running around in some greed filled fantasy land! If you go by majority the US is full of brainwashed apathetic fools! Otherwise we would not put up with this for one more minute!
The Gaza Strip is overpopulated with something like 10,000 people per square mile, most people only want to live, be happy, and be a productive life. Until ass holes bring there god into it, then it is a free for all and we are watching children and all sorts of people getting blown up! We have been doing this TOO LONG!!! WHY MUST WE KILL!! Both sides are wrong! And I blame there leader GOD!!
We need to forget religion! Start to be a companionate race of caring people!
#9 Mr. Gandy Shame on all of us! Any body that uses religion for justification to do these atrocities is the root of the problem!
January 3rd, 2009 at 5:49 pm
kill all terrorists: Some of the worlds most powerful people happen to call themselves ‘Jewish’ so they can hide behind a faith that shelters them from criticism because of the powerful word anti-semitism has become in the minds of people.
These people are not really jewish and they don’t give a shit about any type of religion except for their new world religion which they want to impose on everyone. The majority of people in Israel don’t support what their government is doing in their name. Israeli newspapers are publishing articles highly critical of what the government is doing. 300 American Jews protested against Israeli military action in San Francisco according to a New America Media report.
The fact is these people want us to take sides and fight against each other but in fact the opposite is happening and people are waking up to the reality of their malicious tactics and are coming together to fight against them. If the Israeli Army wasn’t so drugged up and brainwashed they would refuse to fight. The mainstream media in the US & UK is so pro zionist that they attempt to justify the military actions when the reality is hundreds of human beings are dying.. for what? If there is anyone who knows what terror really feels like it’s the Palestinians…
January 3rd, 2009 at 5:52 pm
The world is becoming confused. Just the right conditions needed to bring about world war three. Peple will willingly destroy themselves for false causes and only one group will benefit. This group do not have allegience to any one nation. Especially the US and it’s citizenry of stupid lazy cretinous shit for brained sheep loving retarded cock sucking bags of shit that they are. The sooner that melting pot of subhuman rat vermin infested stench of disgracefulness is cut from the belly of the world the sooner the rest of us can get down to fighting off the new world order. Goodbye Americans and good fucking riddance you fools.
January 3rd, 2009 at 5:52 pm
Hey “Kill all terrorists” – shouldn’t you be on the under 5’s forum with comments like that. You have nothing intelligent to add to this discussion hence your feeble insults. Which just about sums up anyone who is pro-Israel in this argument. KILLING CHILDREN IS WRONG – hope this helps you come to terms in your obviously messed up interpretation of the world we live in
47% of those in Gaza are under 14, hey lets carpet bomb them, yeah, that’ll stop Hamas. If a country is proud of killing kids then you must be one sick individual to support it !!!!
January 3rd, 2009 at 5:57 pm
het BRAINLESS…. your name suits you. not all americans are fat, you stupid bastard. and we’re mot all lazy. and i’ve got news for you. YOUR gov is doing the same thing to you. that’s right. your fat lazy ass is lookin at troops on your streets too. you wouldn’t want me to see you on the streets anywhere. im an american girl, and i would kick the shit outta your sorry ass.
January 3rd, 2009 at 5:58 pm
Hey Sijoko…….. I voted for Bush…twice!!! Hey Sijoco Bush won twice!! Hey Sijoco, Bush is winning the war on Terror!!!
January 3rd, 2009 at 6:00 pm
God’s chosen people…
About as ridiculous about as the 72 virgins thing
January 3rd, 2009 at 6:07 pm
I repeat this is not about bombs trowed to israel or against hamas or any terrorist group. This is a coup to take control of the gas and oil deposits found outside Gaza , in the mediterranean sea. Remember , remember when this freaks scream at us to Drill Drill Drill, well thats what they meaned. Palestine signed an agreement with British Gaz and Israel is taken over they dont want to share it. Egypt is in that deal thats why they go either way as the arabs , they watched from afar. Thats why zipi jewpzy was reunited with the president of Egypt before hand, they were signing contracts .
January 3rd, 2009 at 6:10 pm
I am fucking sick of trying to get idiot Americans to see things clearly. Fuck them I am done with this I am going into the military to get some training. I know who I will be fighting for.
January 3rd, 2009 at 6:13 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwBCt2KxgkA
The 4th World War will be fought with stones…(You’re more interesting…when your Lying)
January 3rd, 2009 at 6:25 pm
Hey Bushwack….. Did I miss the 3rd world war? And, I could be wrong here, but I thought you guys were planning on using shoes for the 4th world war….
January 3rd, 2009 at 6:35 pm
This is ridiculous. I see a lot of people referring to Youtube video clips on such a matter. I will let you know that Youtube is completely biased toward Israeli government on this issue.
Case and point, do a Youtube search for keyword “Gaza”, and you will get this pieces of propaganda video on the top of the search page, every single time.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=HMjSoUEysQ4
It’s titled “Israel’s actions in Gaza is an act of self-defence”. Ohh… how shameless!
Now, go into this video and check the comments, and you will see the Zionist propaganda machine working at its best. All the anti-Israeli voices are either marked down or marked as spam.
Even though this video has been uploaded for more than a week, and it’s completely a lie, it continues to be on the top of the search results.
Check it for yourself!
January 3rd, 2009 at 6:38 pm
# 29 It’s the only way to break the Zionist stranglehold on the world and break the NWO.
KillAllTheTerrorists – you are a psychopath.
# 43 Cheekyboy – don’t blame all Americans. There are a few of us left that know the Zionism is evil. The problem is that too many Americans have been brainwashed by the Jewish controlled press and oppressed by the Jewish controlled banking system. If you try to contact your elected representative to complain about Israel you have to deal with a Jewish Congressional Aid. Everytime someone tries to run for elected office, if they don’t swear allegence to Israel AIPAC will fund the opponent. Everyone knows that here in America if you criticize Israel you’re called an Anti-Semite. Well then, I must be an Anti-Semite – in the same way that I must be a terrorist because the criminal Bush said that you’re either with him or against him. I’m so against him that I’m sure that makes me a terrorist. So what Americans need to do is stop being afraid of being called an Anti-Semite or a terrorist. The government of my country has been taken over by evil Zionists without a shot being fired. And the bankster Zionists are stealing $ 1 Trillion of my tax dollars and there isn’t a damn thing that I can do about it.
January 3rd, 2009 at 6:40 pm
Hamas warns: ‘Price Will Be High’
http://www.cherada.com/articul.....ll-be-high
January 3rd, 2009 at 6:44 pm
PEAadvocate, you are such a hate filled person, like a living cancer. I can’t imagine a person like you paye enough in taxes to cover one MRE. I’d tell you to grow up and get informed but you have been born without the mental capacity to do either, so go on being angry and uninformed. But keep paying those taxes.
January 3rd, 2009 at 7:05 pm
funny that kill all terrorists is really the terrorist and i agree with him . He should kill himself.
January 3rd, 2009 at 7:08 pm
Peadvocate it’s more like 8.5 trillion and counting.
Very well put though, I second that. We need to take our country back!
January 3rd, 2009 at 7:15 pm
Nice comment anti…….. is that really how you feel? And that will make the world a better and safer place? Obviously a better world is not your concern, you hate America, you hate Israel, you live your life full of hatred….. I’ll support the GOP, Bush, and Israel… and at the end of the day, so will you.
January 3rd, 2009 at 7:26 pm
galloway’s saturday’s show was canceled by talksport after him being involved in a big anti israel invasion protest not being covered by most MSM. the jack booted uk police cunts consistently charged into the crowd causing injuries. what a coincidence they cancel his show on the eve of the zionist hate machine invading palestine. the weak kneed uk government and talksport radio are one in the same
January 3rd, 2009 at 7:42 pm
I have been not logging in to you tube the last few days. I have been reading alot more, and soaking up more info. You tube has been taken over by the ADL, and the pro zionist agents, who just repeat the same talking point propaganda direct from the Idf over, and over, as if it will become true.
Also, a lot of people have been saying that we give Israel 3 billion per year in tax dollars, this is false. Lee Hamilton told reporters way back in 91 that we give them over 4.3 billion per year. So by now, its prob. 6 billion. Plus we give them 100s of millions in military”surplus”.
If anybody wants a link, the info I mentioned can be found in the 1st chapter of this book.
http://books.google.com/books?.....0#PPA30,M1
January 3rd, 2009 at 8:01 pm
Kill all terrorists: Kill yourself and your terrorist family…if you support terrorists you are also a terrorist. If you support Israel, the gop and bush you are a murderer and you should be locked up with your entire terrorist family. Yeah, kill a terrorist…keep paying your blood money to your blood thirsty government, they can’t get enough of it…money or blood, and speaking about mental capacity…you haven’t two iq points to rub together to start a small fire. Too stupid you realize your government is using you like the stupid tools you are. Pick up a history book and try reading…that is if you can.
January 3rd, 2009 at 8:05 pm
Pity the poor white man. There is no race on Earth so out of touch with reality, so unable to see his own folly. There are so among you so demented as to not only believe that there are aliens, but that you are aliens. This is an expression of your complete detachment from and caring for this planet.
“America” is not now, nor was it ever, yours.
You conquered the lands of beautiful, relatively peaceful people, destroyed their forests, all but used up, then polluted their natural resources perhaps beyond redemption – and don’t have the sense to understand that it’s payback time.
You “patriots” didn’t “wake up to the NWO” until it began to interefere with their partying schedule.
You never so much as nod as the Indigenous people in all your bellyaching about the NWO.
And you have the unmitigated gall to criticize Israel.
D2
January 3rd, 2009 at 8:10 pm
Is TERROR related to DRUGS? For some reason my country has gone to war with both of these (places,people)? and I’ve never seen where they are or what they look like?
January 3rd, 2009 at 8:17 pm
Silly talking monkeys we are.
January 3rd, 2009 at 8:18 pm
MAR, thanks, but I’ll pass on your loving advice…… instead I’ll give more to the GOP, maybe I’ll make a donation in your honor, we can all be sure it will be the first time in your life that anything associated with you went for a good cause. Rock on USA!!! Rock on George Bush!! Rock on Israel!! Rock on GOP!!
January 3rd, 2009 at 8:28 pm
the funny thing about this character “kill all terrorists” as the story goes, it was people like he who crucified the great carpenter/prophet jesus christ.
January 3rd, 2009 at 8:32 pm
I’m most likley the biggest Judeo/Christian supporter on this site……. Go Israel, Go USA!!!! Keep up the fight!!!
January 3rd, 2009 at 8:35 pm
HOW MANY TIMES DOES HISTORY HAVE TO REPEAT ITSELF BEFOR PEOPLE CATCH ON?????????
January 3rd, 2009 at 8:39 pm
Thanks to the USA, Israel, and George Bush, history will not be repeating itself. It is only uninformed unimpowered hate mongers like many on this site who want bad history to repeat. Go USA!!! Go Israel!!! We will WIN!!!!!
January 3rd, 2009 at 8:40 pm
If you believe in war and murder then you are not a christian!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Jesus is ashamed, I assure you. Or at least full of regret:(
January 3rd, 2009 at 8:41 pm
“MAR, thanks, but I’ll pass on your loving advice…… instead I’ll give more to the GOP, maybe I’ll make a donation in your honor, we can all be sure it will be the first time in your life that anything associated with you went for a good cause. Rock on USA!!! Rock on George Bush!! Rock on Israel!! Rock on GOP!!”
Yeah, tell it to Larry Craig… in a bathroom stall.
January 3rd, 2009 at 9:01 pm
I actually feel sorry for ‘kill all terrorists’. To begin with the guy visits this site and with all the good info here (mostly from mainstream sources mind you) and he is still on the side of Bush and the GOP? He actually believes in the false left right paradigm. To support a guy like Bush you obviously haven’t read the Constitution because Bush has pissed all over that “goddamned piece of paper”. To love a country like Israel clearly shows how insane this guy is. He is either a dual citizen Israeli, and I speculate he is because Bush was a major supporter of the neoconservatives, the mostly Jewish/Trotskyites (leftists/communists) who got us into this phony war in Iraq. Or he is just bonkers or an attention freak.
The guy is all that is wrong with this country. He supports the unwarranted violence of a country who is run by evil elitists/Jew mafia, and the Jew mafia out of IsraHELL. Israel helped create Hamas and use them as a pretext to steal more land and resources from Palestine. And now they are committing a Holocaust.
So I truly do feel sorry for you ‘kill all terrorists’ you are a product of sick nation.
January 3rd, 2009 at 9:06 pm
“kill all terrorists” is taking the piss out of you guys, wake up
January 3rd, 2009 at 9:07 pm
Rockclimber, you are wrongo!!! I just love the USA and Israel, the 2 best countries in the entire world!!! OF course I am no different that 80% of the people in the USA and Israel who also support Israels right to defend herself and who supported the USA’s right to defend herself. Unfortunatelly people like you have undermined the USA and support for the USA to defend herself is waning. I just hope the USA keeps up the fight on terror. Long live the USA!!!
January 3rd, 2009 at 9:07 pm
Israel finally called Irans bluff. All the rhetoric of how the Israeli army would be smited if they entered Gaza. Let’s now see what you have Mr. big mouth Ahmadenajad.
January 3rd, 2009 at 9:15 pm
“kill all terrorists” is fucking with you people,don’t you see that?Anyway,it doesn’t matter either way..It doesn’t matter what is said on this site or mainstream news,don’t believe a word you hear anywhere..Make your own judgments,not based on love for god or the US gov. or for peace or anything,just think of what agrees with your own common sense,then YOU will know truth..And you will be suprised where your finger points.
January 3rd, 2009 at 9:16 pm
Well, get this… I read on a Hamas website, that Iran and other Arab nations, are speaking of sending support. So, wouldn’t this be a unique scenario. Please just hear me out… as this is a theory, and nothing more.
Somethings just doesn’t add up in all of this…
Say we have these missiles, that don’t really do more than piff off the Israelis… but, we have like 2 million people in a very condensed area, all willing to die. So, we create a *diversion* of massive proportions, and israel invades us… now, all our buddies that hate Israel know that they will send everything they have to kill us all. That leaves them very unprotected in their homeland, and none of our *friends* really like them either, and one’s been working on building some nukes… so, we let Israel move it’s pawns into our land for a few days… while our friends go in behind them, and hurt them in the heart of their land.
Frightening scenario for all involved… yet, if you think of it… could be very doable.
Also, if you can create enough propellant to send a missile off the ground, you can surely hook up some explosives in the nose of it, and fill it with shrapnel to kill people… this is like 5th grade science…so perhaps these quassar rockets they are sending, are really just don’t mess with us, kind of weapons.
I mean, it wouldn’t take me about 20 minutes, a sheet of copper, a door bell button, a few batteries, a detonator, and some semtex or RDX… and poof, it’s a working weapon.
I just don’t see how a people who are supposedly well funded, and intelligent enough to pull off world trade center bombings and such, can’t piece together a real working weapon, instead of dud rockets…
Things just don’t add up… unless this is a diversion for a much larger operation, with their friends basically lying in wait until the whole Arab world is so mad at the Zionist as they call them, that they all march on Israel.
Again, this is all me, talking out of my butt…
January 3rd, 2009 at 9:37 pm
“They say the darkest hour / is right before the dawn” indeed…
So how do you all think this conflict is going to end up in Iran?
January 3rd, 2009 at 9:49 pm
Shalom to all who love Yahweh and His Son Yahshua! Their Word (The Bible) says to pray for the peace of Jerusalem. The Vatican is out to destroy Israel (through Hamas, Iran, Russia, U.S. Government ~ you name it!)
Today on the news, I saw Jewish soldiers praying before entering battle. The re-birth of Israel was a miracle no matter what antiSemetic sites like this publish. Bible prophecy states that Israel will survive the coming battle of Ezekiel 38 & 39. This and the destruction of Damascus, Isaiah 17:1, can come very quickly if this fighting escalates.
Those who are “sealed” with the Names of the Father and Son will survive. (Revelation 14:1)
Yahshua will return on some Day of Atonement and it could be 2009! HalleluYah!
Please be ready!
January 3rd, 2009 at 9:56 pm
So let me get this straight, by the people that back collective punishment and mass murder of a dense city. By your logic sense Mexico is not controlling the drug cartels and thugs blowing up cars, buses and slaughtering US citizens in Mexico and on the border in the states in the Southwest of the US? Has the US stepped up and bombed Mexico a poor nation who’s Rich hord all of the money of the nation. Mexico has more billionaires than the US does b/c they hord the money, but SHOULD THE US BOMB THEM BACK THE STONE AGE B/C THEY CANNOT CONTROL THEIR CITIZENS…….??????????????????????????????????
YOU SAME LIBERALS WANT OPEN BORDERS AND WON’T TO PROTECT MURDERS AND GANG CARTELS WHILE THEY KILL AMERICANS EVERYDAY ON THE BORDER, BUT THEN YOU DO THE OPPOSITE WITH ISRAEL………..
ITS A SHAME THAT CHRISTIANS HAVE FALLEN INTO A TRAP AND HAVE BEEN BRAINWASHED INTO ZIONISM. THESE PEOPLE CURSE JESUS AND SPIT AT HIM AND BEAT CHRISTIANS IN THEIR NATION. YOU TALK ABOUT WWJD, I DOUBT MASS SLAUGHTER WAS ON THE LIST.
AND TO THAT FOOL THAT SAID THAT 80% OF PEOPLE IN THE US SUPPORT ISRAEL, YEAH THAT IS MAYBE TO HAVE THEIR OWN NATION, I DOUBT THAT IS THE KILL PEOPLE THAT HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH HAMAS. ISRAEL IS MAD THE PALESTINE HAD ELECTIONS AND HAMAS WON, AND THEY CANNOT DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
THE TRUTH IS NO ROCKETS HAVE BEEN FIRED BEFORE LAST WEEK FOR 6 MONTHS BUT THE MEDIA WON’T SAY THAT AND IN THE PAST 5 YEARS ONLY 12 ISRAELIS HAVE BEEN KILLED COMPARED TO HOW MANY PEOPLE IN GAZA AND LEBANON? OH THATS RIGHT YOU PEOPLE DON’T CARE B/C YOU ARE RACIST RETARDS THAT THINK THAT FOR SOME REASON ISRAELI BLOOD IS BETTER THAT THAT OF THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE…
ALL I CAN SAY IS KARMA IS A BITC* AND ALL PEOPLE THAT DO OTHERS WRONG GET WHAT IS COMING DO THEM, ITS JUST A MATTER OF TIME?
ITS FUNNY THE WORLD SPEAKS OUT AGAINST THIS , BUT B/C THE US VETOS ACTION IN THE UN THAT’S IT…..YOU TELL ME WHERE THE JUSTICE IS. EVERY TIME THE WORLD SPEAKS OUT AGAINST ISRAEL THE US VETOS!!!!!! GREAT CHRISTIAN NATION THE US IS…..LOL WHAT A JOKE!!!!!
January 3rd, 2009 at 10:03 pm
kill all terrorists , How much are they paying you?
January 3rd, 2009 at 10:05 pm
I guess I have to support the jews on this one. If I lived near those crazy bastards in Palestine, I would have killed every one of them long ago. One day, this will all boil over in a big way. I would much rather the jews come out on top than all those muslims. If your family lived in Isreal, Im sure you would want your govt. to do something about all those “dud rockets” that are being fired at you. And if your relative is one of the people killed by a “dud rocket” you probably wouldn’t take it so lightly..
January 3rd, 2009 at 10:06 pm
The only “terrorists” I see in this picture are Israel and the USA. I thought Bush was a “right to lifer” ( I guess that only goes for unborn babies) and everyone except Israel and some of his Saudi buddies can die in the Middle East. Unfortunately it seems that Obama might have been neutered and will now give his “unflailing support” for Israel.
January 3rd, 2009 at 10:09 pm
Headline: Israel Sends Ground Troops into Gaza!
Yesss…. and it’s done with U.$. made weapons… compliments of U.$. tax dollars! AIPAC, the Israeli lobby in $ewertown (Washington D.C.), must be stopped! Amerikans must take back their government and their country from their masters, the ethno-racist demon Zionists in the theoCRAZY of Israel.
When it comes to Israel, the tail has been wagging the dog for a long time! We say enough! NO MORE BLIND $UPPORT FOR ISRAEL’S APARTHEID POLICIES… AND ITS POGROMS AGAINST THE PALESTINIANS IN GAZA (and elsewhere). Arafat was right. Zionism is racism! It is the tribe-all-eeego arrogance of demon people!
Be sure and spell my name correctly for the files! Amerika be damned! And shame on ewe Jeeezass folks who support the Zionist devils.
January 3rd, 2009 at 10:23 pm
Fact. Obama was neutered the day he signed up to run for President.
January 3rd, 2009 at 10:52 pm
Ok, that’s it. I’m no longer filing or paying income tax. Beginning this year, I will no longer have any money withheld from my check, and I will pay no more taxes to the federal government.
January 3rd, 2009 at 11:22 pm
If you don’t like America, leave. Move to palestine you liberal turds. These Hamas terroists need to die, and israel is taking them out..
January 3rd, 2009 at 11:23 pm
When did it all start? First there was the Jewish faith–the “Chosen People.” Exclusive, and racist. Who first called whom monkeys and pigs? Which exclusionary religion started the hate? Be fair–Islam will accept converts–Jews only do so grudgingly. Some Jews will not even let “goy” sup with them at the same table. Think it out.
I met a Muslim from Kuwait a couple weels ago. We supped at the same table. He boldly procaimed his faith, and we others at the table were raised as Christians but there was no animosity. Only good will among us. Think on it.
January 3rd, 2009 at 11:49 pm
Israel and the JEWSA, the evil alliance….God bless America??? God help her more like.
The USA is finished – it’s no longer an option for even the most desperate refugee.
Go Palestine GO – finish off these hubristic scum – the whole world is behind you.
Ken in Dublin, Ireland
January 4th, 2009 at 12:52 am
Israeli Zionism = German Nazism = American KKK
All 3 are racist political ideologies that seek to create a pure race state.
No true American should ever support the racist state of Israel.
Israel is a crime against humanity.
Go Hamas. You gain strength every day around the world.
January 4th, 2009 at 1:48 am
This nation is finished. We have been taken open in all levels of Government by dual citizen Israelis. My God our Homeland Security Secretary is a dual citizen Israeli. Our government has been infiltrated from top to bottom. Just about every Federal Reserve head is Jewish. Obama got his orders long time ago. He is keeping his dual citizen Zionist close, very close. When you think about it, Jeremiah Wright was right after all. Americans Zionist chickens have come home to roast. No matter how bad the blood bath will be in GAZA America will stand on the side of evil. They won’t even allow anything to get through the security council. These heartless America will be judged by God. When the financial crisis comes, when all of the wrath of God comes, don’t blame it on anyone but yourselves. Especially the cowards hiding behind this fake patriotism crap but have not served a day in the military. We are all complicit, because our tax dollars are going to fully fund this evil campaign of death.
Footnote:
I remember how fights broke out at gas stations post Hurricane Ike in Texas. That was just for 2 weeks without electricity, and gas. What would you do if you didn’t have food, couldn’t get around your own city because of walls surrounding the entire city like a maze, house demolitions, and life in a complete apartheid ghetto system of racist hate, not for two weeks but for decades? What would the average American do? How about if the oppressors were living in your homes on your land and had to nerve to say that they are defending their country.
God help us all.
January 4th, 2009 at 3:16 am
“Biggun” the reality is you’ve probably never ventured further than your diddling cousin lived. now go back to your trailer and do what you inbreds do best, mate with you sister
January 4th, 2009 at 3:44 am
EMERGENCY DEMONSTRATION – LONDON
SUNDAY 4 JANUARY 2.00 PM
ISRAELI EMBASSY, KENSINGTON HIGH STREET
Following Israel’s ground invasion, an emergency demonstration has been called for Sunday, 4th January at 2.00 pm. (Nearest tube High Street Kensington).
DAILY PROTESTS AT THE ISRAELI EMBASSY
There will be daily protests at the Israeli Embassy from Monday 5 January to Friday 9 January, at 5.30 pm – 7.30 pm.
NATIONAL DEMONSTRATION: SATURDAY 10 JANUARY
The national demonstration on Saturday 10 January is planned to march to the Israeli Embassy. Stop the War is asking all its local groups outside of London to book coaches or arrange other transport to help make this the biggest demonstration yet seen in this country in the cause of Palestinian freedom.
January 4th, 2009 at 3:59 am
YO ISRAEL, YOU LOT ARE A BUNCH OF PRIX, WHAT THE FUX WRONG WITH YA MAN ?
YOU FCUKIN IDIOTS !!!!!
ENGAGE THE INFORMATION WAR THAT WE’RE IN FOLKS. IT’S TIME 2 UNITE & FIGHT.
DON’T LET THESE NEO-SCUM BLOOD-SUCKING BASTARDS WIN !!!!!
POWER 2 THE PEOPLE, BY THE PEOPLE, 4 THE PEOPLE
VIVA LA REVOLUTION ………………………….. MR ALEX JONES 4 “REAL” PRESIDENT !!
January 4th, 2009 at 3:59 am
i think most of you are sick in the head realy sick
@kill all terr if me and you were on the battle field who would shit them self first.
you are noyhing but a coward who likes to blow off steam and as you live in the USA i shall pray to any god for you to die may be by a gang member or just a nutter with a gun.
AND IF THERE IS A WAY THAT I CAN FIND YOU MYSELF AND DO THE JOB I WILL SO CAN ANY ONE HELP ME TO FIND THIS PRICK
January 4th, 2009 at 4:07 am
no sleep till/ Iran.
http://www.latimes.com/news/op.....9516.story
WWWIII
January 4th, 2009 at 4:19 am
john, settle down, “kill all terrorist” is a punk kid playing x-box, residing in butt fuck america that has never seen an airplane or been on one, so you’re wasting your time. don’t let him fire you up. my experience tells me, when an idiot like “kill all terrorist” makes comments it’s from their comfy couches of ignorance never leaving their acid induced disney ride whilst never taking acid.
January 4th, 2009 at 4:27 am
John
I know how to find him I can pinpoint his exact whereabouts if he lives in the U.S
January 4th, 2009 at 4:30 am
the other thing i wanted to say was istayed up late watching the news and as i live in England i get a lot of different news channels including fox cnn cbs sky and french german russia and al jazzia and all the US is one sided isreal is defending it self and getting experts or so they are called saying the same thing in the UK it 50/50 rest of europe is 25/75 against
isreal and al jazzia is just reporting on the distruction thats going on.
it shows that the mass media in the states is one sided and the american people are not being shown the full picture
January 4th, 2009 at 4:31 am
please i will get the next flight
January 4th, 2009 at 4:51 am
Ken Says:
January 4th, 2009 at 12:52 am
“Israeli Zionism = German Nazism = American KKK
All 3 are racist political ideologies that seek to create a pure race state.”
*** “No true American should ever support the racist state….Go Hamas.” ***
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Not just racist, but supremacist ideologies as well.
However, it seems you have conveniently failed to include Islam in your equation. I made use of the ellipses in your final statements to highlight ignorance… or perhaps hypocrisy.
For your edification on Islam:
Tabari IX:69 “Arabs are the most noble people in lineage, the most prominent, and the best in deeds. We were the first to respond to the call of the Prophet. We are Allah’s helpers and the viziers of His Messenger.
Tabari II:21 “Ham [Africans] begat all those who are black and curly-haired, while Japheth [Turks] begat all those who are full-faced with small eyes, and Shem [Arabs] begat everyone who is handsome of face with beautiful hair.
Ishaq:243 “I heard the Apostle say: ‘Whoever wants to see Satan should look at Nabtal!’ He was a black man with long flowing hair, inflamed eyes, and dark ruddy cheeks…. Allah sent down concerning him: ‘To those who annoy the Prophet there is a painful doom.” [9:61] “Gabriel came to Muhammad and said, ‘If a black man comes to you his heart is more gross than a donkey’s.’”
Deception as a core belief:
Bukhari:V7B67N427 “The Prophet said, ‘If I take an oath and later find something else better than that, then I do what is better and expiate my oath.’”
Qur’an 9:3 “Allah and His Messenger dissolve obligations.”
Qur’an 66:1 “Allah has already sanctioned for you the dissolution of your vows.”
Bukhari:V4B52N268 “Allah’s Apostle said, ‘War is deceit.’”
Qur’an 4:142 “Surely the hypocrites strive to deceive Allah. He shall retaliate by deceiving them.” [Allah is admittedly "the deceiver" for you religionists out there]
Behold, Allah, the best of schemers; best of plotters; best of deceivers:
Qur’an 8:30 “Remember how the unbelievers plotted against you (Muhammad). They plotted, and Allah too had arranged a plot; but Allah is the best of schemers.”
Ishaq:323 “I am the best of plotters. I deceived them with My guile so that I delivered you from them.”
Peace, the Islam way:
Qur’an 47:33 “Believers, obey Allah, and obey the Messenger. Do not falter; become faint-hearted, or weak-kneed, crying for peace.”
Bukhari:V9B84N59 “Allah’s Apostle said, ‘I have been ordered to fight the people till they say: “None has the right to be worshipped but Allah.” Whoever says this will save his property and his life from me.’”
Tabari VIII:104 “Peace to whoever follows the right guidance [Islam]! To proceed; Submit yourself [to Islam], and you shall be safe.’”
Qur’an 97:5 “There is peace until the dawning of the day!”
Why treaties can never be trusted between Muslims and non-Muslims:
Qur’an 9:3 “Allah is not bound by any contract or treaty with non-Muslims, nor is His Apostle.” “And an announcement from Allah and His Messenger to the people on the day of the Pilgrimage is that Allah and His Messenger dissolve treaty obligations with the Pagans.”
Qur’an 9:7 “How can there be a covenant between Allah and His Messenger and the disbelievers with whom you made a treaty near the sacred Mosque?”
January 4th, 2009 at 5:05 am
One more point:
The KKK and Zionism are more concerned about their “turf”.
Nazism and Islam are both expansionist ideologies.
January 4th, 2009 at 6:10 am
Wait and see, this just the next fase in the endgame,
From this they will try and kickoff WW3,
Hold on to your hats peeps
January 4th, 2009 at 8:57 am
I say let them have it out. Thats the problem now days. Turn Israel loose. They will clean up the entire middle east. Everybody needs to step back and let the Jews kick the hell out of the Muslims. ONE BIG CAN OF WHOOP ASS. From the med to the Indian border.
January 4th, 2009 at 9:43 am
fuck the jews and fuck the muslims and fuck the usa
January 4th, 2009 at 11:40 am
prison planet is starting to sound like fucking al jazeera. Do they really think that islamic governments and paramilitary organizations are fucking freedom loving libertarians? Unbelievable, I think Alex Jones although right about a few things has allowed himself to be turned into a demagogue by the interests surrounding him too bad.
January 4th, 2009 at 11:55 am
MUSLIMS ASKED FOR WHAT IS HAPPENING TO THEM,THEY TEACH HATE THE JEW IN SCHOOLS THE SAME THING HITTLER DID,THIS WILL NEVER END UNTIL THE JEWS WHIPE OUT MOST OF THE ARAB COUNTRYS WITH THE WEPONS THEY HAVE.THIS MIGHT BE THE PLAN OF THE NEW WORLD ORDER TO ELIMINATE POPULATION AND THE MUSLIMS ARE PLAYING INTO IT BESAUSE OF THE HATE THEY PREACH AGAINST THE JEW
January 4th, 2009 at 11:57 am
soon they will have to wear the star of david on their sleeve again and this time none may hide as we can tell by dna who they are. this time the lies they told about being gassed will not be lies but fact and we will dance in the streets singing when the jew is no more
January 4th, 2009 at 12:05 pm
John Kent… You are an angry elf…… luckily you are so small and insignificant your hateful thoughts and writing end up being more humor than anything else….. Keep it up tiny fellow… and remember, USA and Israel RULE!!! you are the LOSER!!!
January 4th, 2009 at 12:16 pm
why dont you tell me your telephone no. i will call so you can tell me were you live then we can settle this in your front yard, as i am an elf i might bring you a present
January 4th, 2009 at 12:26 pm
USA USA USA USA USA!!!!!!!
January 4th, 2009 at 12:45 pm
thats very good. now little boy but did mummy and daddy tell you the road and town you live in can you tell me that
January 4th, 2009 at 12:55 pm
John Kent, in your “world”, who are the “good guys”? I know you have a bit of distaste for the USA, Israel, and muslims…….
January 4th, 2009 at 1:05 pm
good guy’s is their such a thing i do not think so
January 4th, 2009 at 1:10 pm
Come here to chat about the Gaza crisis with others from Prison Planet and infowars while watching the live stream from press.tv………
http://www.globalcordon.com/
No registration… Just set-up yesterday when the ground war started…..
January 4th, 2009 at 2:58 pm
Gaza war chat with live news
Thanks for a great link. I’m fed up with the BBC, CNN and so on lies. I put it up on my TV and have already invited some neighbors and friends. Pass this web page http://www.globalcordon.com/on to as many as possible!
January 4th, 2009 at 3:31 pm
I agree with “kill all terrorists”
All zionists that are the true creators of terror should be exterminated!
January 4th, 2009 at 3:43 pm
Ericsson, you and simple minds like yourself have been trying to do that for thousands of years, unfortunatelly for you, you are too simple to have any real success. That is why Irael is the only real power and one of the few civilized nations in the middle east. Simple minds like yours make is so easy for Israel and the USA to be the true dominant powers of the world!! Israel and the USA will rule and simple minds like you will do nothing more than complain……. Ericsson, you are simply a loser in life…. sad but true….
January 4th, 2009 at 3:55 pm
Wow, what an outburst from someone I just agreed with.
Bye the way, you are a true comedian. Keep it up!
January 4th, 2009 at 4:01 pm
General Patton, US Army:
“… where, although room existed, the Jews were crowded together to an appalling extent, and in practically every room there was a pile of garbage in one corner which was also used as a latrine. The Jews were only forced to desist from their nastiness and clean up the mess by the threat of the butt ends of rifles. Of course, I know the expression ‘lost tribes of Israel’ applied to the tribes which disappeared — not to the tribe of Judah from which the current sons of bitches are descended. However, it is my personal opinion that this too is a lost tribe — lost to all decency.”
January 4th, 2009 at 5:05 pm
“Go Israel!!! Safety to all the IDF!!! F’ Hamas!”
Anomymous, you are an idiot. How easy to be the mucho macho tough guys when you are the third post powerful military in the world facing a largely defenceless population. Do you ever listen to the Alex Jones show?
January 4th, 2009 at 5:09 pm
Anonymous
Your kidding right? You actually believe the reality you are forwarding?You believe it is rational to destroy a city, kill innocent children, men and women because of the stupidity of a radical few. You think it is Ok to use weapons coated in depleted uranium in city centers. I’m just glad you are not a police officer. My anger and out rage is directed at those in this world
who forward this insanity. I wonder how you would feel if some country with the support and financial backing of a supper power. Took control of your homeland restricted your life to the point of utter hopelessness and called any one who resisted a terrorist. You should go live in Gaza for a while and see the other side of the coin. Not what the Zionist print in your media. You have an embarrassingly shallow point of view. But hey not to worry the reality of Philistine’s way of life is coming your way soon compliments of your local one worlders.
January 4th, 2009 at 6:33 pm
http://fun.mivzakon.co.il/flas...../2673.html
this is a short history of the conflict in the Middle East.
well worth viewing
January 4th, 2009 at 7:42 pm
Something everyone should watch and learn from:
http://www.terrorismawareness......-happened/
January 4th, 2009 at 10:19 pm
OK Fed_up, I watched yours, now you watch this one-unless you’re afraid.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....playnext=1
You are sidestepping the issue. This is not about “terrorism”. Whether or not Palestine was a country is a non-issue. The REAL ISSUE is that there are people being slaughtered. PEOPLE!!! Including children. This isn’t a movie or video game. There is nothing you can say or argue to justify this kind of aggression. Anyone who tries is nothing short of a sociopath with no real experience of the world and violence outside of what they know from their television in the living room.
January 4th, 2009 at 10:35 pm
Further: this whole Jew vs Muslim rhetoric has gone beyond the point of ridiculous. There are many Christian Palestinians, along with Jewish and Christian Iranians. The religious mix of people in that region of the world historically got along just fine and in most cases still do. Fundamentally, these people are just like anyone else that you or I know. “JUST LIKE”. I spent eight years in the US Army, some of it in the middle east. I speak from experience-REAL knowledge. What do you speak from? This whole mess is a matter of nationalist aggression and apartheid. If you can’t see that at this point in the game, it’s because you don’t want to. What are you so afraid of?
January 5th, 2009 at 12:40 am
John Kent #143 of the U.C.K of F. was unfortunately blessed with a small brain because
he didn’t get any mothers milk when he needed it most as a baby, and was bombarded
with toxic vaccines and floride that is evident of his irreversible brain damage. It is
unfortunate that Idiots like this are in the world. It is people like this John Kent person
that makes the world the sad way that is. This John Kent is living proof of the
atrocities caused by the New World Order.
People; please don’t let this happen to your children.
January 5th, 2009 at 2:51 am
Do you people realize that Gaza is 5 by 25 miles. Thats only 125 sqare miles. There are 1.5 MILLION people living in Gaza with no way out or to do ANYTHING. So when Israel decides to put them on a diet for a few months by shutting the humitarian aid…what should they do. They live there but Israel runs the borders, airspace, and sea. Gaza is the highest populated area on EARTH. Besides, Israel is only 60 years old. Palestinians have lived there for 2000+ years, and the real Jews are Palestinian Jews. Remember that “Jew” is a religion, not a race. There are Iranian Jews, German Jews, Italian Jews, and Palestinian Jews. Just like there are German, Italian, Russian AND Palestinan CHRISTIANS. All those people in Gaza have been slowly herded into Gaza over the past 60 years. All those Jews there now came from all over the world in 1948. The Palestinian Muslim, Christians, AND Jews are the originals! Even the old Bibles refer to “Palestine” because it has nothing to do with religion. The Palestinians are just the people of that country. There are of all religions. There are TONS of Palestinians Christians.
January 5th, 2009 at 2:59 am
Hey Mr. 161, Your video state there was never a Palestine. What the hell is wrong with you. Pick up a any bible from Jesus’ time up to 1900 (before you guys started this campaign IN THE BIBLE to remove the word Palestine) and see what the Holy Land is named. It was Palestine and the residents were: Palestinian Jews, Palestinian Christians, and later joined by the Palestinian Muslims. Now, many Palestinians are Christians which most people don’t remember. Palestine is not a “religious” state just the name of a country. A jewish state is like trying to say a Christian state. What you guys are so good at is confusing people into thinking “Jew” is a race…..it’s a religion. There are even Iranian Jews…do you hate them too because they are Iranian?
January 5th, 2009 at 3:01 am
By the way, in Iran, the Jews and Christians are the only people allowed to sell liquor. The Muslims there are banned from liquor.
January 5th, 2009 at 3:03 am
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January 5th, 2009 at 4:42 am
jay Says:
“this whole Jew vs Muslim rhetoric has gone beyond the point of ridiculous. There are many Christian Palestinians, along with Jewish and Christian Iranians. The religious mix of people in that region of the world historically got along just fine and in most cases still do. ”
Complete BS. They only got along “just fine” as long as the jizyah was being paid and non-Muslims didn’t practice their religion in public, once Islam violently ceased power. All is well as long as non-muslims remain good dhimmis.
Yes, there are many Christian “palestinians”. And I really feel for them in a big way. They have never once engaged in terrorism or homicide/suicide bombings, that I am aware of. The one’s I have known are such loving people. It is so unfortunate they are driven from their homes and bombed out of their shops by the Muslims…and… because of their Muslim counterparts, they must suffer in the crossfire between Hamas, Hezbollah, and Israel.
READ: Christian Bookstore Bombed By Palestinian Islamic Terrorists
One political source in the city told WND at the time of the attack, “the identity of the attackers is well known to Hamas. We don’t expect the Hamas-controlled police, the Hamas city council or the Hamas Interior Ministry to do anything about this attack.”
The source called the arson a “warning to YMCA’s and Christian groups in the Palestinian areas that they are not safe.”
One Christian leader, an aide to Jerusalem’s Latin Patriarch Michel Sabah who asked his name be withheld out of fear of Muslim retaliation, called the threats against Qalqiliya’s YMCA part of a general trend of Christian persecution in Palestinian areas.
“It’s been happening all over the West Bank and Gaza,” said the aide.”
LINK: search the title, as the filter here won;t alow me to post the link
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READ: Christians Fleeing Palestinian Controlled Areas
Quote:
“The Christians of Bethlehem saw the destruction of the mainstay of their livelihood — Christian pilgrimage and other tourism. Furthermore, much of the violence has been perpetrated by the radical Muslim organizations, Hamas and Islamic Jihad. Imposing Muslim codes [Fed_up says - that means Shari'ah law] in the Bethlehem area and violence against its Christian residents have considerably expanded, including occasional attacks on women. ”
LINK: again, search the title
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WATCH: Muslim Palestinians persecuting Christian Palestinians
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UX5a9lSG0Rk
jay Says:
“Fundamentally, these people are just like anyone else that you or I know. “JUST LIKE”. I spent eight years in the US Army, some of it in the middle east. I speak from experience-REAL knowledge. ”
So, let me get this straight — because you spent “some” time in the ME, sheltered in the cocoon of the army, that makes you a scholar on the subject? That’s like saying, because you visited a college campus, therefore you are as knowledgeable as a graduate. Quite laughable.
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jay Says:
“What do you speak from? ”
I spent an equal amount of time as your entire time in the army, studying Islam and this whole “palestinian” issue, and have debated with dozens of Muslims, have known and befriended a few Christian “palestinians” in the US, who have told me their family stories and how they were driven from their homes by…. not Israelis, but MUSLIMS.
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jay Says:
“This whole mess is a matter of nationalist aggression and apartheid. If you can’t see that at this point in the game, it’s because you don’t want to. What are you so afraid of?”
I am afraid of nothing in your context. You know what, go ask any Christian “palestinian”, who doesn’t live under the duress of Muslims, what they really think about the situation. Yes, they would like their own homeland, and to live in peace, without having to pay “protection money” to the Islamic supremacists, and with the ability to freely express their religion in public as they desire, and free from the crossfire between Hamas and Israel.
And you know, if you’re integrity and self-honesty are worth their salt, you’d understand that Israel would be quite happy to grant them that.
January 5th, 2009 at 10:38 am
Fed_up Says:
“So, let me get this straight — because you spent “some” time in the ME, sheltered in the cocoon of the army, that makes you a scholar on the subject? That’s like saying, because you visited a college campus, therefore you are as knowledgeable as a graduate. Quite laughable.”
I make this statement to point out the fact that I have met many people from that part of the world and in my experience, most (not all) are not separated by their religious differences. It appears however, that you like to stereotype muslims, and that my friend is nothing short of radical prejudice. -
“…by the Muslims…and… because of their Muslim counterparts…”
A broad stroke indeed, assuming that ALL Christian Palestinians are innocent and suffer at the hands of ALL Muslin Palestinians. If that is not what you meant, you should choose your words more carefully, like the educated man that you seem to present yourself as.
If I were to say that all Christians were bad based on the crusades of the catholic church or that all catholics were baby rapers, that would likewise be just an ignorant of a statement as the generalizations that people make towards Muslims.
If I were also to tell you that college students can’t read or write, you could correct me based on the fact that you visited a college campus. There would be nothing laughable about that.
So, aside from your gossip and hearsay, what is your “experience”? Where did you study? Under whom?
Fed-up Says:
“I spent an equal amount of time as your entire time in the army, studying Islam and this whole “palestinian” issue, and have debated with dozens of Muslims, have known and befriended a few Christian “palestinians” in the US, who have told me their family stories and how they were driven from their homes by…. not Israelis, but MUSLIMS.”
If you paid for your studies, you should get your money back. The volatility in that region of the world is a “relatively” recent phenomenon (slightly more than a half century). People from all over the world used to take vacations in that part of the world. Although political Islam dates back to the 1920’s, radical/militant Islam is a byproduct of Western expansionism and foreign policy.
The Western-installed Nasser government of Egypt captured and tortured Sayyid Qutb and his followers in the 1960’s. This moment was the catalyst for (and the beginning of) the violence that would follow to this day. America’s first experience with militant Islam did not even occur until 1979 with the overthrow of the Shah by Iranian people and the ensuing hostage crisis. Hmm, why did that happen? Why-did-that-happen? If you truly studied, you would have learned this history. Don’t take my word for it, check for yourself. Or once again, are you afraid?
Look, I’m not siding with radical Islam. Murder is murder no matter who does it, and that includes the Israeli government. It doesn’t take a genius to understand that violence only leads to more violence and this whole thing can only escalate if that is path that people choose. No matter what side a person is on, their death creates two additional enemies until someone wises up. Do the math. If you think that this has no affect on you or the ones you love, you are sadly mistaken. The consequences of this are far reaching.
Fed_up Says:
“And you know, if you’re integrity and self-honesty are worth their salt, you’d understand that Israel would be quite happy to grant them that.”
In your own famous words: Complete BS!
But hey, don’t take my word for it. How about straight from the horse mouth:
- According to the Israeli press, Yuval Diskin, the current head of the Israeli security service Shin Bet, “told the Israeli cabinet [on 23 December] that Hamas is interested in continuing the truce, but wants to improve its terms.” Diskin explained that Hamas was requesting two things: an end to the blockade, and an Israeli ceasefire on the West Bank. The cabinet – high with election fever and eager to appear tough – rejected these terms.
-The core of the situation has been starkly laid out by Ephraim Halevy, the former head of Mossad. He says that while Hamas militants – like much of the Israeli right-wing – dream of driving their opponents away, “they have recognised this ideological goal is not attainable and will not be in the foreseeable future.” Instead, “they are ready and willing to see the establishment of a Palestinian state in the temporary borders of 1967.” They are aware that this means they “will have to adopt a path that could lead them far from their original goals” – and towards a long-term peace based on compromise.
The rejectionists on both sides – from Mahmoud Ahmadinejad of Iran to Bibi Netanyahu of Israel – would then be marginalised. It is the only path that could yet end in peace but it is the Israeli government that refuses to choose it. Halevy explains: “Israel, for reasons of its own, did not want to turn the ceasefire into the start of a diplomatic process with Palestine.”——————-
I would like to point out that ALL of our (mine included) relative positions and historical knowledge on this are academic to the reality on the ground. It only serves to overshadow what is happening to REAL PEOPLE right now at this very moment. You are not the only person who happens to know families from Palestine or Israel. For every one you know who says one thing, I can find one who says the opposite. There are plenty of Christian Palestinians and Jewish Israelis who disagree with what the government of Israel is doing.
I ask again, aside from your gossip and hearsay, what is your “experience”? Perhaps you should buy a plane ticket and go see the violence for yourself first hand, because that is the real issue here.
Who did what first to whom is not an excuse to kill hundreds – soon to be thousands of innocent people (Christian, Muslim, Jew-there are Also Jewish Palestinians) who’s only crime is to be caught between two governments with their heads up their asses.
January 5th, 2009 at 3:46 pm
jay Says:
“It appears however, that you like to stereotype muslims, and that my friend is nothing short of radical prejudice. ”
Islam is not a race. But I kind of expected you to play the “race card”.
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jay Says:
“A broad stroke indeed, assuming that ALL Christian Palestinians are innocent and suffer at the hands of ALL Muslin Palestinians. If that is not what you meant, you should choose your words more carefully, like the educated man that you seem to present yourself as.”
I did choose my words carefully…. it is you who not-so-slyly inserted the “all”.
But the fact remains, Hamas was elected by the majority of Muslim Palestinians.
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jay Says:
“If you paid for your studies, you should get your money back. The volatility in that region of the world is a “relatively” recent phenomenon (slightly more than a half century). People from all over the world used to take vacations in that part of the world. Although political Islam dates back to the 1920’s, radical/militant Islam is a byproduct of Western expansionism and foreign policy.”
You are sorely uninformed and obviously have zero knowledge of Islam or Islamic history. Militant Islam and terrorism date back to the false prophet Mohammad, and has never ceased since. Volatility in the ME has only experienced times of lull when non-Muslims have been put in their place through terror, and they paid the jizyah protection money, and observed the shariah controls forced upon them.
I am not saying all Muslims are inherently evil. But Islam IS.
It is the remaining humanity many Muslims that allow them to disregard the hate, racism, and supremacism espoused by the Quran, and are good people DESPITE Islam.
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jay Says:
“America’s first experience with militant Islam did not even occur until 1979 with the overthrow of the Shah by Iranian people and the ensuing hostage crisis. Hmm, why did that happen? Why-did-that-happen? If you truly studied, you would have learned this history. Don’t take my word for it, check for yourself. Or once again, are you afraid?”
Apparently you are afraid of reality and history. Americas first experience with militant Islam dates back to the Barbary Pirates – this is even highlighted in a nationalist song “…from the hall of Montezuma to the shores of Tripoli…”
** From AMERICAN SPHINX The Character of Thomas Jefferson by Joseph J. Ellis **
“Several muslim countries along the North African coast had established the tradition of plundering the ships of European and American merchants in the western Mediterranean and eastern Atlantic, capturing the crews and then demanding ransom from the respective governments for their release. In a joint message to their superiors in Congress, Adams and Jefferson described the audacity of these terrorist attacks, pirates leaping onto defenseless ships with daggers clenched in their teeth. They had asked the ambassador from Tripoli, Adams and Jefferson explained, on what grounds these outrageous acts of unbridled savagery could be justified: “The Ambassador answered us that it was founded on the laws of the prophet, that it was written in their koran, that all nations who should not have acknowledged their [islams] authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as prisoners….”
This event occured between 1784-1789 while Jefferson was ambassador to France and Adams (2nd president) was ambassador to England.
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John Quincy Adams:
“In the seventh century of the Christian era, a wandering Arab of the lineage of Hagar (mohammed), the Egyptian, combining the powers of transcendent genius, with the preternatural energy of a fanatic, and the fraudulent spirit of an impostor, proclaimed himself as a messenger from Heaven, and spread desolation and delusion over an extensive portion of the earth. Adopting from the sublime conception of the Mosaic law, the doctrine of one omnipotent god; he connected indissolubly with it, the audacious falsehood, that he was himself his prophet and apostle. Adopting from the new Revelation of Jesus, the faith and hope of immortal life, and of future retribution, he humbled it to the dust by adapting all the rewards and sanctions of his religion to the gratification of the sexual passion. He poisoned the sources of human felicity at the fountain, by degrading the condition of the female sex, and the allowance of polygamy; and he declared undistinguishing and exterminating war, as a part of his religion, against all the rest of mankind. THE ESSENCE OF HIS DOCTRINE WAS VIOLENCE AND LUST: TO EXALT THE BRUTAL OVER THE SPIRITUAL PART OF HUMAN NATURE (Adam’s capital letters)…Between these two religions, thus contrasted in their characters, a war of twelve hundred years has already raged. The war is yet flagrant…While the merciless and dissolute dogmas of the false prophet shall furnish motives to human action, there can never be peace upon the earth, and good will towards men”
John Quincy Adams
Sixth President of The United States of America
1830
*** Note Adam’s own caps ****
I hope no one tries to convince me that Mr. Adams was watching too much western biased television!
January 5th, 2009 at 6:41 pm
Fed-up,
Please excuse my less-than diplomatic responses in my previous posts, as I am also fed-up in my own way. I am impressed by your ability to find the historical information that you reference in your posts; I don’t mean that in a sarcastic way. I really do try to see both of the issues, and your history perspective is very enlightening to me. You have proven to be very resourceful in this exchange. I would like to point out however, that I have a number of writings here that would be easy for me to quote in a way that is not very flattering to the Christian religion.
Islam has their infidels and Christianity has their heretics. I will again mention the crusades along with the treatment of the Incas at Machu Picchu, all atrocities committed in the name of Christianity. We can throw child molestation in the mix too. The list can go on and on. This happens when religions are interpreted for ones own ends (both Christian and Muslim). Would it be fair for me to say “I don’t feel that Christians are inherently evil. But Christianity is”? I don’t think so. At least not by my reasoning. These things happen when men of great fault achieve great social power. This brings us back to where I Keep trying to bring it back to.
All of this history is academic. Neither you or I were there, nor did we experience any of it. What we do know is the capacity of men to commit horrid acts no matter what their race, religion, nationality, etc. I feel that it is extremely dangerous to overlook such a simple truth because then we start to put people in boxes- literally. Just look around. Remember the person who shot the Indian man after 911 because the man was wearing a turban? Is that indicative of all Americans? Many people around the world are starting to think so, and it’s wrong. Ignorance comes in many forms and is the ultimate root of evil.
I guess the position that I’m trying to take here is my belief that good people are good people no matter what their chosen religion; not the other way around. My understanding of history or perceived lack thereof is of no real importance here. Out of the 1.5 million people living in the ~ 25mi x 5mi Gaza strip, I think it would be safe to assume that there are a lot of good people who are caught in the middle. As pointed out in my previous post, the Israeli government has no intentions of coming to terms. The ball is in there court. I feel that there is a great injustice being carried out against them.
So without getting into a history debate, let me ask you: What is your position and assessment on the predicament of the civilian population of the people of Gaza? Is there a humanitarian crisis? Do they deserve it because they’re less than human? Where do you stand?
By the way, have you read “The Peoples History of the United States” by Howard Zinn? Very interesting perspective.
January 5th, 2009 at 6:45 pm
By the way, I wrote “radical” prejudice. Not “racial”. No race card here…
January 7th, 2009 at 2:07 pm
JOHN KENT JOHN KENT JOHN KENT JOHN KENT
YOU ARE NOTHING BUT A RACIST/NAZI
DO YOU HAVE ANY EDUCATION?
YOU SOUND LIKE AN IDIOT, SORRY, YOU DONT SOUND LIKE AN IDIOT. YOU ARE AN IDIOT.
ARE YOU ON WELFARE?
JUST REMEMBER YOUR GOD IS A JEW YOU DUMB FUCK NAZI!! HAHA
January 7th, 2009 at 2:08 pm
EVERYONE ON HERE PLEASE TELL ME WHERE THERE IS A DEMOCRACY IN ANY OF THE MUSLIM COUNTRIES? ARE JEWS KILLING JEWS? OR ARE MUSLIMS KILLING MUSLIMS???
ASHKENAZ DONT KILL SEPHARDIC JEWS DO THEY?? SHIITES KILLING SUNNIS ALL OVER THE MUSLIM COMMUNITIES INCLUDING SUICIDE BOMBINGS RIGHT?? RIGHT! BLOWING THEMSELVES UP TO KILL THEIR OWN KIND!! IN PAKISTAN AND IRAQ TO THEY THE LEAST. HOW DE FUCK DO YOU COMPARE THE HOLOCAUST WHERE OVER 6MILLION JEWS WERE KILLED TO THE MIDDLE EAST CONFLICT YOU DUMB FUCK. GET YOU FACTS STRAIGHT. JEWS ARE HATED IN THIS WORLD BECAUSE THEY HAVE POWERFUL POSITIONS AND ARE VERY EDUCATED AND INTELLIGENT AND ITS JEALOUSY WHAT MAKES JEWS BE HATED!! JEWS STICK TOGETHER AND THAT IS WHY THEY ARE SO SUCCESSFUL IN THIS WORLD.GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT ALL OF YOU DUMB FUCKS. DO YOU SEE MODERATE MUSLIMS OR CHRISTIAN ARABS PROTEST?? NO, BECAUSE THEY KNOW WHATS GOING ON. MOST PEOPLE IN THE MUSLIM COMMUNITIES OR AROUND THE WORLD ARE RADICALS AND FANATICS, NO MODERATE MUSLIMS OR CHRISTIAN ARABS. FOR YOUR INFO, HAMAS HAS A ANNUAL BUDGET OF 70 MILLION DOLLARS, WHERE DO YOU THINK THEY SPENT IT ON? INFRASTRUCTURE AND ECONOMY, FUCK NO, BUYING WEAPONS, YOU DUMB FUCKS TO CAUSE MAYHEM. HAMAS WANTS ISRAEL TO KILL CIVILIANS SO HAMAS LOOKS LIKE THE VICTIMS, THEY DONT GIVE AFUCK ABOUT THEIR PEOIPLE, THEYRE FIGHTING A CAUSE WHICH IS TO DESTROY ISRAEL. HOW CAN SOMEONE MAKE PEACE WITH SOMEONE WHO DOESNT EVEN RECOGNIZE THE EXISTENCE OF A STATE. ISRAEL IS THE ONLY JEWISH STATE IN THE WORLD! HOW MANY MUSLIMS STATES ARE THERE?? PLENTY. AGAIN, JEWS DONT KILL JEWS!!! MUSLIMS KILL EACH OTHER ALL OVER THE WORLD. WHY DONT YOU GO LIVE IN 1 OF THE MUSLIM COUNTRIES AND SEE IF YOU LIKE IT!! NO FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION, NO FREEDOM OF NOTHING, BEING TOLD WHAT YOU CAN WEAR AND WHAT YOU CAN SAY AND WHAT YOU CAN DO. AND THEN GO CHECK OUT ISRAEL AND SEE THE DIFFERENCE. ISRAEL IS SURROUNDED BY HOSTILE NATIONS. ISRAEL HAS HAD PEACE WITH EGYPT AND JORDAN FOR MANY MANY YEARS, WHY DO YOU THINK THAT IS?? BECAUSE THEY ARE MODERATE GOVERNMENTS THAT WANT PEACE! EVEN EGYPT CRITIZIED HAMAS FOR STARTING THIS BULLSHIT AND NOW THEYRE BEING LOOKED AT AS TRADERS BECAUSE THEY WENT AGAINST THE RADICAL FUNDAMENTAL FUCKS. HAMAS AND HEZBOLLAH DO NOT WANT PEACE, I SAY IT AGAIN, THEY DO NOT WANT PEACE! HEZBOLLAH IS FIGHTING WITH THEIR OWN ELECTED GOVERNMENT WHICH IS MODERATE AND WANTS PEACE, SAME WITH FATAH AND ABU MAZEN, HAMAS AND FATAH FIGHTING AND KILLING. WHERE ARE HIGH LEVEL POLITICIANS GETTING ASSASINATED ON A REGULAR BASIS?? MUSLIM COUNTRIES BECAUSE THEY DO NOT HAVE RADICAL VIEWS. BY WHO?? HAMAS AND HEZBOLLAH AFFILIATES. LOOK AT HISTORY, MUSLIMS FIGHTING AND KILLING MUSLIMS. HAMAS AND HEZBOLLAH ARE THE PROBLEMS. AND REGULAR CITIZENS DONT SPEAK UP BECAUSE THEY FEAR RETALIATION. GET YOU FACTS STRAIGHT.
GO ON YOU TUBE AND CHECK BRITTE GABRIEL A LEBANESE CITIZEN AND SEE WHAT SHE SAYS ABOUT HEZBOLLAH AND HAMAS, SHE NOW RESIDES IN THE US AND HAS RECEIVED PLENTY OF DEATH THREATS BECAUSE OF HER VIEWS, WHY IS SHE GETTING DEATH THREATS? DOESNT EVERYONE HAVE A RIGHT TO THEIR OPINION?? I ENCOURAGE ALL OF YOU TO CHECK IT OUT “BRIGITTE GABRIEL”. SHE HAS ALOT OF INTERVIEWS, SHE IS NOT THE ONLY 1 YOU CAN FIND, PEOPLE ARE AFRAID TO SPEAK UP BECAUSE OF RATALIATION!!