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Israeli chiefs say Gaza onslaught will go on
Press TV
Friday, Jan 9, 2008
The Israeli security cabinet says the Gaza offensive will continue despite a UN Security Council resolution calling for an urgent ceasefire.
“The ministers were briefed on talks (Israeli envoy) Amos Gilad held in Egypt as well as on the UN Security Council resolution,” a senior government official told AFP after the cabinet meeting Friday.
“The ministers reiterated Israel’s full right to defend its citizens to which end the IDF (Israeli Defense Forces) will continue its operations in order to reach the goals of the offensive — to bringing a change to the security situation in the south of the country,” he said.
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The Israeli attacks in the densely-populated Gaza Strip has so far claimed the lives of at least 783 Palestinians and injured thousands of others.
The Israeli official said the army is instructed to prevent “weapons smuggling into the Gaza Strip” by expanding its operation in southern parts of the impoverished sliver.
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January 9th, 2009 at 12:11 pm
Of course the slaugher of innocent kids and women in Gaza will go on because we’re taling about Zionist Nazis here who think they can then go and divide Jerusalem – on their terms like the Book of Revelations says.
Christ is coming, but not the way they think.
January 9th, 2009 at 12:24 pm
we need an international tribunal to bring the Israeli government and IDF to trial for war crimes and to ensure there are reparations for the Palestinian people who are being slaughtered in their own country, one third kids. It might sound a pipe dream but that is the way forward.
January 9th, 2009 at 12:50 pm
Kucinich: Bush Administration Ignores Humanitarian Crisis
Israeli Military Prevents Emergency Ambulance Care for Four Days
WASHINGTON, D.C. (January 8, 2009) — Congressman Dennis Kucinich (D-OH) today made the following statement on the House floor calling attention to a report in the Washington Post that the International Committee of the Red Cross has accused the Israeli military of preventing ambulances from reaching at least 15 emaciated people for four days:
“What is going on in America? We have trillions for a war machine and banks while our government stands by and sniffs at the slaughter of innocents in Gaza, where Israel is blocking aid for wounded Palestinians. Here’s today’s Washington Post it says: The International Committee of the Red Cross said Thursday that it found at least 15 bodies and several children, emaciated but alive – - in a row of shattered houses in the Gaza strip and accused the Israeli military of preventing ambulances from reaching the site for four days. …12 corpses lying on mattresses in one home, along with four young children lying next to their dead mothers.” That’s a quote
“Today U.S. tax dollars, U.S. jets and U.S. helicopters provided to Israel are enabling the slaughter in Gaza. The Administration enables Israel to press forward with the attack against defenseless civilians; blocks efforts promoting a cease-fire at the UN; and refuses to make Israel comply with conditions that arms shipments not be used for aggression. Israel is going to receive $30 billion in a ten-year period for military assistance, without having to abide by any humanitarian principles, international laws or standards of basic human decency. Wake up America.”
January 9th, 2009 at 1:00 pm
I dont get it.
Alex and his creations; sites, films etc, has said many times that the UN is a fraud, yet he uses it as a truthfull source…
Im not saying the war should’nt be stopped, but things are blown out of proportion on this site.
Both Israel AND Hamas, the democraticly elected gov. of the palestinians rejected the UNs proposal.
January 9th, 2009 at 1:05 pm
It is hard to understand why the other mideast nations are not able to force “Israel” to stop attacking a defenseless Gaza, and work out a solution to getting the Palestinian people productive. With all the $Billions pumped into the nideast by the USA alone, there should be a string of McDonalds and Wal-Mart style businesses as far as the eye can see instead of mud brick slums.
January 9th, 2009 at 1:06 pm
Norwegion:
Please go to this site and see the pictures if you think things are being blown out of proportion
http://angryarab.blogspot.com/.....tures.html
January 9th, 2009 at 1:20 pm
okay, so blown out of proporitons was a wrong term. Im not english-speaking, so im not too used to expressing myself in the queens english.
What I mean to say is that both israel and hamas rejected the UN proposal. Neither parts are willing to have peace. What the civilians want is irrelevant. I dont mean that to be rude or crude or whatever, but its fact when “nations” go to war. The gov is god.
I am sympathising with the civilians being slaughtered, but what i dont get is how alex and his crew makes documentaries and articles about how bad the UN is, for then to use UN against Isreal in a manipulative matter. Like this article says Isreal wants teh slaughter to continue, when infact hamas wants it to continue aswell by not accepting the fraudulent UNs efforts to create peace.
Im making a point beside the gaza conflict.
Im losing faith in this NWO stuff….
January 9th, 2009 at 1:27 pm
Nprwegian, and I know many Norwegians being an Anglo Saxon, the Un is a sophisticated NWO tool and the aim is to escale the conflict so when Zionist burn kids and the Un condemns it, it escalates the conflicht, right?
But you’re not a Norwegian or what part do you come from? Oslo? Bergen? I know the country well. Tell me what part you come from? Tel Aviv, Jerusalem? Are you a Norwegian IDF dis agent? Of course, you lie to the Goyims because we Goyims know our fellow Goyims the Norwegians understand very well and what we all understand – that the murder of kids in their own land by the Zionists is a war crime.
January 9th, 2009 at 1:30 pm
Antifraud,
The Zionist crime machine in Washington lobbies for the money for Palestine and pockets it for themselves and laughs all the way to the bank at the naivete of the Goyim tax payer who doesn’t act for an account. There needs to be an investigation of where that meant went. It didn’t reach the Palestinians. The criminals have to be stopped in their crime spree.
January 9th, 2009 at 1:35 pm
Kareema, Norwegian is a Zionist dis agent.
The Norwegians are a scandinavian people with a very fine sense of justice and a very great sensitivity to the worth of every single person in a community (from which their famed democragy and social justice comes!). One kid killed is a kid too much for a Norwegian. A Norwegian doesn’t need to have someone justify the death of one kid as “blown up” ´let alone hundreds. Norwegian here is another Zionist dis agent operated by the Israelis.
I KNOW NORWEGIANS AND THIS NORWEGIAN IS NOT TYPICAL!
January 9th, 2009 at 1:42 pm
Palestinians have to learn the fine art of whining and the selling of one’s self like the Jew. The Jew is a professional whiner and has been practicing the art of whiner victim for some time now, they wrote the book on it. About an hour or so ago I saw a commercial on TV whining about the Israeli victim of Gaza missiles being fired on her..The Palestinians should learn the art of infiltrating the media especially the US media..Learn from the Jew for he is a pro.
January 9th, 2009 at 1:43 pm
I live in Norway, Akershus, Bærum, just outside of Oslo. I dont know what a IDF dis agent is, so i might be one. I just want to know why the UN sudenly seems so noble, when its claimed to be the seed of the NWO interfereing the internal affairs of USA, but when it interfears with the internal affairs of israel and palestine its suddenly working towards a better world with peace for both…
that i dont get.
January 9th, 2009 at 1:46 pm
Norewgian
Alex Jones is not showing duplicity of his own but that of the UN. What I can infer from Alex Jones is that the UN is shedding crocodile tears for the Palestinians who have been killed by a war orchestrated by the West.
The UN is just a front for the NWO. It wants it’s two enemies (Israel and the Arab Nations) to fight one another. It’s divide & conquer strategy is still being used today so please do not think Alex Jones is hypocritical in his ways. I have nver met the man but his work hits home far greater than the UNs!
God only knows who is truly just in this world but it seems Alex Jones is one who is just so I have legitimised faith in his work.
January 9th, 2009 at 1:49 pm
I agree with David Icke, Israel was put in the middle east as a way to bring forth a constant source of wars and blood by the Illuminati as a means to carry out their agenda
January 9th, 2009 at 2:01 pm
Hatredfornon
that doesnt make sense in the context that UN is suddenly portrayed on this site. Theres an ad on top of prisonplanet saying UN claims that 110 persons were herded into a house and shelled leaving 30 dead.
It doesnt make sense to use an uncredible source as a source just because it supports our own views…
January 9th, 2009 at 2:04 pm
Okay, Norwegian, let me explain.
The NWO works by putting one group against the other and so creating conflict. It’s the divide and rule tactic of the Romans.
If you want E, you have to eliminate A,B,C and D first. How do you do. Does E take on ABC and D alone? No way. Too risky.
You put A against B and so destroy A
then
you but B against C and destroy B
You put C against D and destroy C
You put D against E and destroy D
You have E victorious and without lifting a finger. Google Zbigniew Brzezinski.
This is also the process called the Hegelian dialectic.
You put a thesis against an antitheisis and you get a synthesis.
In the world change happens naturally but if you can control the change by manipulating both sides of the argument you can control the outcome.
First, you have to infiltrate your agents into A, B, C and D and do it very secrety so A, B, C and D don’t realise. This is done by freemasons, CIA or Mossad agents or the Vatican agents. The higher grade freemasons are invited to the Bilderberg conferences. That’s why every year you see apparently random names plucked from countries for attendance at the Bilderbergs and from both left and right political parties. Every European government is controlled by the bilderberg freemasons, That’s why there are so many morons in government doing nonsensical things leading to decline and the people can’t get rid of them because the left is as useless as the right.
How does this principle apply to the current situation and the UN?
You want world control, right?
You need to destroy America, Europe, China and Russia and the Arabs.
You need to pit them against each other so they destroy each other.
You need to infiltrate your agents into these countries to steer policies or set up bodies that create that conflict.
Now, we’re moving to the end pahsee.
So, first you put Israel against Gazans by infiltrating Fatah and Hamas so the Gazans have no real alternative. Hamas fires piddle rockets that cause no death so you have an excuse to polverise them.Israel’s goverment is freemasons. Egypt’s government which keeps the Gazans locked in is freemason.
So, if Israeli exterminates Gaza and the West Bank by taking on first Hamas and then Hezbollah, you’ve got rid of the Palestinians, but you want the world, remember so you have to move up the pyramid putting religion against religion, race against rce, A against B, B againt C, letting them do the work for you or you’ll exhaust your military and financial means and be defeated.
Wtih the UN condemnation of Israeli war crimes, you’ve got to put the world against Israel, and created more friction.
The Un condemns Israel atrocities. The world gets in a huff and….
Hamas or Islamic terrorists infiltrated by your agents detonate a nuclear bomb in America.
You declare martial law to control America and blame Iran for givinh the group the nuclear bomb.
You nuke Iran and the Middle East goes up in flames.
So you have American and the Middle East in your hands.
But you want the world right?
So you have to put Israel against the next target.
This time you sacrifice Israel. You nuke Israel and blame Russia.
You nuke Russia in defence and China condemns you.
You nuke China.
That’s the theory. So when the Knights of Malta or the Vatican say something, you know it’s true, but it’s leading to the outcome the NWO wants.
January 9th, 2009 at 2:07 pm
edisonoside
I agree Israel sheds false tears. Notice the convenient release of Defiance in cinemas and the repeat showings of Holocaust survival dramas here in the UK.
This always occurs when Israel tries to justify its offensive (Gulf War etc)
Shame as innocent Jewish people were killed during Hitler’s time and I’m sure these innocent people would be turning in their graves if they saw Israel’s imitation of Hitler’s ideology. I feel for those good Jewish people in this world who are stereotyped against due to the insidious Zionists plot to continuously persecute the Palestinians is seen throughout the world on our TV screens and in newspapers.
Shame on Israel.’s Zionist’s. They and their cronies are tasting their own hell in this world and believe me if they do not repent God will surely throw them in Hell in the Hereafter until their souls have been purified and they enter the Gardens of Paradise to meet their Lord.
January 9th, 2009 at 2:16 pm
Bad Monkey
I always believed that the NWO has this strategy of divide & conquer and I dread to think what it will be like if the NWO succeeded. I don’t know if the nations will act as you have mentioned but it won’t be far off from what you have said if the NWO really does get it’s way.
January 9th, 2009 at 2:21 pm
Norwegian
I’m sure if Bush said that all world leaders are evil , the good in this world will quote him and agree with him. Doesnt mean the world is like Bush but will say “yes they are but you are too Bush!”
Hope this helps.
January 9th, 2009 at 2:43 pm
Yeah were are the Rabbis? this is a rampage and the rabbis are doing piss all to stop it.
January 9th, 2009 at 3:36 pm
I call on Christians, and Arabs to support the Jews in Israel who are standing up against the slaughter in Gaza by protesting. They are the real Jew, the children of God, who obey God’s commands and will enjoy God’s love and protection always. The Zionist Rothschild freemason Mossad Satanists are throwing God’s children into goal for obeying God’s law and protesting and the Rabbi’s are silent. at this outrage They want to see God’s children offered as a burnt sacrifice to the New World Order? God will protect his chosen people always if they prove themselves faithful to his commands, but the Rabbis who betrayed their people…?
January 9th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
You all quit your damn whining about Israel and its actions in regards to Hamas. Have you ever heard of the pecking order? Well this is exactly where Hamas is and they need to toe the line because Israel has bigger guns than they do. It’s rule or be ruled you fools and has been this way since the dawn of man on earth! Stop the poor me drama syndrome and accept the rule mentioned above! We all are ruled by someone or something!
January 9th, 2009 at 4:25 pm
We’ll be discussing the Israeli invasion of Gaza from perspectives on both sides of the divide Monday and Tuesday January 12 and 13 at 5 PM New York time on News Talk Online on Paltalk.com with Israel’s Consul General in New York Asaf Shariv and Hussein Ibish, executive director of the Foundation for Arab-American Leadership and senior fellow at the American Task Force on Palestine.
Please go to http://www.garybaumgarten.com and click on the Join The Chat Room button to speak with Shariv on Monday and Ibish on Tuesday.
Thanks,
Gary
January 9th, 2009 at 4:30 pm
The only fucking reason that Isreal is even a PART of the U.N. is to have some form of control over it. They get the U.S. to veto everything, (due to the blackmailing possibilities they have with all the pro-NAZI and NAZI sympathetic’s within the government, banking and intelligence agency’s) they’ve chosen to not follow other U.N. mandates without reprecussion and we stand by watching as they kill our fellow human’s. I hope they get blown up and vaporized; when it does happen and my government tries to conspript me to fight some lie of a zionist war I will fight them.
That’s that.
Viva la revolucion!!!
January 9th, 2009 at 4:35 pm
What nation would stand by and do nothing, while ungodly, hate filled, hell bound Muslim goat scum fire rockets at them day and night, killing innocent people. They started it and Israel will finish it. If I were the IDF leader I would soak the whole Gaza in pigs blood, that would dampen the hamas will to fight. They wont stop until the Jews are dead no matter what they say. Please do not invest in the muslim or media lies about Israel.
January 9th, 2009 at 4:50 pm
CW Hale Says:
January 9th, 2009 at 4:24 pm
Accepting the back and forth religious debate, there seems to be a general theme running through the pro-Israeli posts.
Apparently, and without exception, Hamas is either attacking behind innocent men, women and children, from schools, hospitals and homes or hiding behind innocent men, women and…etc.
Let’s analyze this strategy closely:
An undermanned, ill-equipped, poorly supplied, lacking advanced communication and control systems resistance force, not to mention zero mechanization of tanks, APCs and auxiliary armoured support and no aircraft or naval forces, is suppose to gather in a nice clear open field and fight a conventional battle against an enemy that has all those capabilities,
…hmmmmm…I wonder who would win that fight?
When one opponent is confronted with another opponent which vastly outnumbers them in all areas of military necessity, that opponent has no choice but to fight however and wherever it can to maximize surprise and minimize losses. I have no doubt that the IDF would love for Hamas to meet them on the “field of honor”, a lopsided victory of such dimensions that wouldn’t have been seen since the British Army fought the Zulus!
Like I said in an earlier post, Hamas and Hezbollah and others are like mice fighting an elephant. The mice must use every assest at their disposal to evade, trick and confound the elephant. The elephant wants the mice to be quiet and sit still so they can wipe them out with one good stomp of their foot. Such is the war in which Hamas finds themselves, a war that they are determined to win anyway they can.
In addition, it appears that Israeli determination to kill as many civilians “as necessary” to accomplish the death of at least one “bad guy” is a fine military policy provided you don’t give a damn about those civilians. Of course we are constantly told that Israel “deeply regrets” such civilian deaths but has “no choice” if it hopes to destroy Hamas.
Here’s a thought…
Q: Why doesn’t the vaunted IDF send in there “elite” commando units to capture and/or kill those Hamas fighters?
A: Because those “brave”, “courageous” and “good” Hebrew boys and girls might piss themselves if they had to fight on equal terms with the Hamas –
(Do you remember in 2006 when that Israeli soldier was interviewed, whining, “What am I doing here, I’m a nice Hebrew boy.” – they quickly pulled the plug on that pathetic scene!).
Instead, they do what all cowardly armies do. Bomb the hell out of them and take advantage of the dead and dying civilian population knowing full well that Hamas has already left the area. Such is the military stratgey of the “heroic” Israeli Defence Force! Please spare us your frustration at having to deal with guerilla warfare and, as painful as it may be to admit, try to recall Jewish terrorism during the British Mandate of Palestine when the “Stern Gang” and others engaged in identical methods – your hands are not clean Israel!
January 9th, 2009 at 4:51 pm
CW Hale Says:
January 9th, 2009 at 4:24 pm
Accepting the back and forth religious debate, there seems to be a general theme running through the pro-Israeli posts.
Apparently, and without exception, Hamas is either attacking behind innocent men, women and children, from schools, hospitals and homes or hiding behind innocent men, women and…etc.
Let’s analyze this strategy closely:
An undermanned, ill-equipped, poorly supplied, lacking advanced communication and control systems resistance force, not to mention zero mechanization of tanks, APCs and auxiliary armoured support and no aircraft or naval forces, is suppose to gather in a nice clear open field and fight a conventional battle against an enemy that has all those capabilities,
…hmmmmm…I wonder who would win that fight?
When one opponent is confronted with another opponent which vastly outnumbers them in all areas of military necessity, that opponent has no choice but to fight however and wherever it can to maximize surprise and minimize losses. I have no doubt that the IDF would love for Hamas to meet them on the “field of honor”, a lopsided victory of such dimensions that wouldn’t have been seen since the British Army fought the Zulus!
Like I said in an earlier post, Hamas and Hezbollah and others are like mice fighting an elephant. The mice must use every assest at their disposal to evade, trick and confound the elephant. The elephant wants the mice to be quiet and sit still so they can wipe them out with one good stomp of their foot. Such is the war in which Hamas finds themselves, a war that they are determined to win anyway they can.
In addition, it appears that Israeli determination to kill as many civilians “as necessary” to accomplish the death of at least one “bad guy” is a fine military policy provided you don’t give a damn about those civilians. Of course we are constantly told that Israel “deeply regrets” such civilian deaths but has “no choice” if it hopes to destroy Hamas.
Here’s a thought…
Q: Why doesn’t the vaunted IDF send in there “elite” commando units to capture and/or kill those Hamas fighters?
A: Because those “brave”, “courageous” and “good” Hebrew boys and girls might piss themselves if they had to fight on equal terms with the Hamas –
(Do you remember in 2006 when that Israeli soldier was interviewed, whining, “What am I doing here, I’m a nice Hebrew boy.” – they quickly pulled the plug on that pathetic scene!).
Instead, they do what all cowardly armies do. Bomb the hell out of them and take advantage of the dead and dying civilian population knowing full well that Hamas has already left the area. Such is the military stratgey of the “heroic” Israeli Defence Force! Please spare us your frustration at having to deal with guerilla warfare and, as painful as it may be to admit, try to recall Jewish terrorism during the British Mandate of Palestine when the “Stern Gang” and others engaged in identical methods – your hands are not clean Israel!
January 9th, 2009 at 4:59 pm
CW Hale Says:
January 9th, 2009 at 7:42 am
All Biblical, Talmudic and other such religious references aside, the UN Office for the Co-ordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA), has an unblemished and unbiased reputation for objective reporting of such brutality. They have done so in other countries and with other people so any argument that attempts to portray this organization as “anti-Israeli” is false and those making such arguments know it to be false.
As for the numbers involved. Just because a “target” has 110 people residing within it and is hit be shell fire does not mean all 110 would necessarily be killed. Human nature being what it is, once a place you are staying comes under attack the human thing to do is flee that place! Those that were able to, or could not flee.
As for the people who submit comments that make a feeble effort to “justify” such blatant atrocities by reminding us “this is war!” would, I think, take a very different position if the situation was reversed. Afterall, Israelis have consistently described such attacks against them as “terroristic”.
What makes this incident particularly odious is the deceptive ploy by the Israeli Army to first “evacuate” these Palestinians to this building and then ordering this same building to be shelled. I do not recall a single incident when any attack by any group opposed to Israel at any time have stooped to such a evil and dirty trick.
Clearly, Israeli terrorism has gone above and beyond any Palestinian terrorism in its’ planning, methods and outcome.
Briefly, those who believe this attack is part of a wider plan to destabilize the entire region and expand military action across the globe including an attack against Iran may be somewhat correct, although I doubt some of the more outlandish claims of tactical nuclear strikes are feasible, particular any directed towards Israel which the Israelis would not permit under any circumstances and for any reason.
In addition, Hamas, Hezbollah and other such groups are undoubtedly inflitrated with Mossad and possibly CIA agents. The extend of their influence, however, is minimal and these groups fill their ranks with young men and women from the surrounding communities who are dedicated to the mission of a free Palestine and would not tolerate any “false flag” use of their organization.
January 9th, 2009 at 5:00 pm
CW Hale Says:
January 9th, 2009 at 11:08 am
I make every effort to respect the religious beliefs of everyone I meet, or from those, even though I don’t know any of you personally, who submit such posts on this site. However, much of what is being said here is blurring the issue.
Quite frankly, Israel, at anytime during the last few decades with their overwhelming superiority in military, financial and political power could have easily removed any and all so-called “terrorist” groups both in Israel and the within the territories. It has chosen a much more sinister and long-term plan of removal and gradual extermination of the Palestinian people. There are several reasons for this “delightful” policy:
1) sustaining U.S. military, financial, economic and political aid
2) sustaining pro-Israeli lobby groups and organizations
3) sustaining entertainment and media-based propaganda
4) sustaining military expenditures
5) sustaining illegal settlement policies
6) sustaining military research and development programs
7) sustaining aggressive and militaristic foreign policy objectives (ie. Iraq, Syria, Lebanon and Iran)
There are undoubtedly other “reasons” for prolonging this “war on terror” that are beneficial to the Israelis. A quick resolution to the problem of Palestinian rights to a homeland would have made all those reasons listed above unecessary.
For those who view this action and many more besides as some sort of “glorious” page in the history of Israel, the basic fact is these policies are designed to maintain and expand existing Israeli plans and objectives. In short, the existence of Israel is little more than a marketing tool to further the interests of a small group of sadistic, hate-filled individuals who thrive on death and destruction.
This “promised land” is offensive to all people of common decency and respect for human rights.
January 9th, 2009 at 5:02 pm
CW Hale Says:
January 9th, 2009 at 11:49 am
Reply:
To “Rev” :
Your first post can be easily dismissed as rubbish. If, as you claim, Israelis can be bombed any minute and have their famalies “blow to bits” they sure go about their daily buisness seemingly unperturbed by this gripping fear of death.
Israelis can be seen:
shopping in fashionable boutiques…
sipping coffee at sidewalk cafes…
suntanning on beautiful beaches…
drinking and laughing at bars and restaurants…
going on delightful vacations to the Dead Sea…
playing with their children at parks and outdoor areas…
walking hand-in-hand on clean, bomb-free sidewalks and pathways…
…and other such activities that point to a people and a nation constantly in fear of being “blown to bits”.
Now, see if you can imagine such daily routines being enjoyed in Gaza or the West Bank?
And no, I’ve never been to Israel or Palestine but I have eyes to see and ears to hear.
As for your second, more lengthy post…
The money that flowed into Gaza in 2005 did go to extensive infrastructure projects but these take years to complete and it has only been 3 since the creation of the Palestinian Authority. Of course they used much of the money to build their defenses. What did you expect them to do? Build parks and schools and hospitals and not a military force to protect that infrastructure?
As for Israel’s “remarkable restraint” from 2005-2008 when, according to the math, Hamas launched roughly 6 rockets per day, Israel responded with regular air strikes. Don’t try and convince people Israel did nothing during that 3-year period.
Media coverage of this conflict has been one-sided for many years. The increase in footage and stories of Palestinian suffering is a long time in coming, a very long time. They have a lot of catching up to do.
Finally, Israel is under increased scrutiny because of what it has decided to do not because there is some contrived conspiracy against it. As a supporter of Israel naturally you will focus on the percieved bias against Israel and for Palestine. However, a simple comparison of living standards, financial wealth, military power and political connections between Israel and Palestine should, at the very least, give one pause to think just how uneven this conflict was, is and no doubt will continue to be.
January 9th, 2009 at 5:05 pm
CW Hale Says:
January 7th, 2009 at 8:12 am
Before turning to the issue in this article I would first like to respond to the post submitted by “anonymous” in regards to the article about the Norweigian doctor. That article has been moved into the archival section and thus will unlikely be read or reread.
The argument that the Palestinians are not really Palestinians is an old one and thoroughly discredited. There was not an Israel or Israeli until 1947 but I’m sure that fact does not deter some from arguing Israel’s exitence or the existence of Israelis. Anonymous spent a considerable amount of time quoting 19th century visitors to Palestine who observed large areas underpopulated and underdeveloped. Those that did live there did so in makeshift housing and were no more than “squatters” and “vagabonds”.
First, no one should be surprised that 100-150 years ago the Palestinian region was underpopulated and underdeveloped and that this fact continued up to the mid 20th century. It was only when the well-heeled Jews of America and Europe arrived bringing with them their financial, economic and political connections did the region begin to progress and develop. Such resources if given to the existing Palestinian population prior to the arrival of the Jews would have seen such progress and development much earlier. See the beauty of Beriut developed by the Lebanese people in the post-WW2 era and subsequently and systematially destroyed by Israel (religious conflicts between Muslim and Christian factions orchestrated by Israeli intelligence as a cover story for the violence in Lebanon), purely because it showcased Arab economic, political and financial success.
Second, and more to the point. The argument that the word “palestinian” itself is somehow false or means something derogatory is merely a way in which Israelis can downplay and dismiss Palestinian claims to the land. When all other arguments fail due to the overwhelming evidence presented, the fallback position of the Israelis has always been:
“Okay, okay…but there is no such person as a Palestinian! The word is made up!”
What people call themselves, how they live and what their history is, is not as important as where they lived, when they lived there and who they are. Whatever they call themselves today the people of Gaza and the West Bank are the sons, grandsons, daughters and grandaughters of the original settlers of a land that was taken from them by force and illegally settled by others, plain and simple.
As for the issue at hand, the deliberate targeting of civilian areas of Gaza by Israel is, in fact, a stated policy of the Israeli government. During the Israel-Lebanon conflict in 2006 officials of both the Israeli government and military were quoted justify attacks against civilians:
Prime Minister Ehud olmert:
“Civilians remaining in southern Lebanon after recieving warning leaflets should be considered terrorits.”
I would ask the the “honorable” prime minister where precisely are the civilians to go? If there homes are soon to be destroyed where should they live? How will they survive? How will they raise their famalies?
Army Chief of staff Halutz ordered that 10 multi-story buildings should be destroyed for every rocket fired at Haifa. Later, when trying to backtrack from this order, the IDF Spokesperson’s Office said the Chief had been “misquoted”. When that lie didn’t work the same office said he had been “mistaken” in his comments. Good grief! A two-year could see through that sloppy smokescreen!
In the artermath of this conflict the UN found 100,000 unexploded cluster bombs in southern Lebanon making daily life extremely hazardous to the civilians in that region for years to come. An IDF spokesperson (not named of course), attempted to justify the use of cluster and phosphorous bombs because the laws regulating the use of such weapons did not “totally prohibited” their use. How nice of a distinction is that! Did it ever occur to this “spokesperson’ that using such weapons was, morally and ethically speaking, brutal and unnecessary?
Whenever some spokesperson for Israel starts shedding crocodile tears for civilian deaths just remember where the source is coming from. Israel’s top leadership is comprised of people whose hearts are filled with hate and indifference to any death not Israeli. Don’t look to the “good” people of Israel to stop their government from practicing such violent policies. International pressure from the “fascist” UN as well as the United States having the courage to shake off this Jewish “monkey” from their backs are ways in which Israel can be brought to justice to answer for its’ crimes.
January 9th, 2009 at 5:19 pm
Killing innocents ???…those stinky fucks are anything but innocent.
All they have to do is stop launching rockets into Israel, but will they?…No!, because they are religious fanatical idiots.All of you morons on here whining over these scum are a joke!…what would you do if Mexico was continuously launching rockets into your town??…I’ll bet your sorry asses would be singing a different tune then!
January 9th, 2009 at 5:34 pm
GO BLOGO GO HEEL YEAH!!!
January 9th, 2009 at 5:48 pm
I mean- HELL YEAH!!!!
January 9th, 2009 at 6:19 pm
Reply:
To “bjv122″ :
Let’s see, Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, B’Tselem and the Palestinian Center for Human Rights and the Environment all accuse Israel of terrorism – I suppose they are all anti-semetic too, right?
The last refuge for the scoundrel has always been “you just don’t like me!”.
You can spout dates and events all night and it won’t change the fact that Israeli brutality has been, is and will continue to be just as unjustified as any brutality from anyone else. There is, however, one big difference, Israel has categorically refused to adhere to any reasonable and equitable peace plan.
If you had been forced off your land moved to a place you did not like or want to be and then graciously allowed to stay there if you just kept your mouth shut and did what you were told – how would you feel? In addition, the Arab coalition against Israel was the result of Israel’s refusal to abide by the UN Partition Plan of 1947 and UN Resolution 194 which gave the Palestinians “Right of Return” – google those issues if your unaware of these facts. To add insult to injury UN Resoltuion 181 called for two states, one Jewish, one Arab – not one big Jewish state and one small fragmented Arab state!
Your use of the word “terrorism” is like a broken record. You are more than willing to use such words when they fit your worn-out arguments but when the same words are used to describe Israeli actions you recoil in horror like a frightened child.
I’m glad you have other things to do, so do I. I wouldn’t want you to waste a single second more on someone who is “too dumb”. Of course, my university degrees in Arts and Sciences and the Humanities plus my name on the Dean’s Honor Roll and academic scholarship might account for some measure of intelligence, how about your educational background?
Please don’t feel you have to reply, your time being so valuable…
January 9th, 2009 at 7:04 pm
Blogo and Deerslayer. Just go back to sleep, ok? Go drink a Bud and watch Fox news. Fucking brainwashed, brain-dead fools. These “scum” are people. Pointing out the constant justification and lies of the occupying forces of “Israel” is not whining. If Mexico were firing rockets over the border at my town, I sing a tune like “They’re finally standing up and taking their fucking country back”. Please, don’t breed. EVER! I will help you pay for your sterilizations if you want.
January 9th, 2009 at 7:17 pm
The Gazans have been under siege for almost two weeks now without water or food and under bombardment with banned weapons. Half of them are kids under 18. How long until they die like flies?
If this siege is lifted and there are only 15,ooo Gazans alive from the 1,5 million, what then?
This is a real possibility. Israel does not allow the Journalists in. Young children without food or water camping in rubble with sewage in the streets and getting cholera can die very quickly.
The Red Cross has already reported seeing emaciated children sitting by their dead mothers.
How many more?
If this siege is lifted in one week, and all this left are a a few thousand emaciated adults, stumbling around, stricken with cholera, out of 1.5 million people who belong to that land, what then?
Israel is finished.
Every hour counts. Every hour that those people don’t get help, more will die.
If 1.5 million Gazans, mostly children, are wiped off the face of the earth in a prison created by the Israelis in their home land, Israel is finished.
If even half die, Israel is finished.
We will be counting the survivors of Gaza, Israel!
We will be counting each child who comes out alive from the wreckage!
We will be counting, Israel, each adult that comes out alive.
January 9th, 2009 at 7:37 pm
No one will come out from Gaza. Gaza is a tomb, a mass grave.
January 9th, 2009 at 8:00 pm
Have you been reading the posts on this board? Israelis seem to be Satanic Kabbalists who call for all those who are not Israelis to be killed. I haven’t seen a single Jew post on this board denouncing the murder in Gaza. Not a single one. Or did I miss something? But there have been dozens and dozens calling for the Palestinians to be finished off.
January 9th, 2009 at 8:02 pm
The world will be counting, Israel, how many of the 1.5 million come out of that siege alive when it is finally lifted if any, and in what state they’re in.
January 9th, 2009 at 8:19 pm
The Kids in Gaza are dying in droves right now behind the media black out and the New York Times has not a single report about Gaza on its online edition right now. I checked.
January 9th, 2009 at 8:57 pm
Hey extratesticle, at least you admit those people are scum ” ” …you go to mexico and I’ll cling to my God and guns and have a few Buds, you keep the change,(obama) you liberal turd
January 9th, 2009 at 9:06 pm
the u.n, created Israel now they wont adhere to u.n. resolutions what do you do when you teen kids wont listen
January 9th, 2009 at 9:07 pm
can the u.n. dissolve israel?
January 9th, 2009 at 9:53 pm
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITI.....index.html
Very important news article in my opinion, 137 mile journey by train to innauguration for obama. Secret service “have difficulties defending” that much territory. Can anybody say millitary guard. Looks a little something like Ceasar riding into town on his chariot with military in the city. Gonna be a good month. Sit back for the show sheeple.
January 9th, 2009 at 10:01 pm
Israel is a tool of the NWO/globalists to foment WWIII!!! (I wonder if some or all of these rockets aren’t being false-flagged by Mossad, just like 9/11 was!!!)
Apartheid Israel has been committing genocide against Palestinians since it was invented in 1947!!!
Zionists were most complicit in the 9/11 false-flag: http://www.911missinglinks.com
January 9th, 2009 at 10:31 pm
Thank you, CW Hale for the intelligent posts.
January 9th, 2009 at 11:10 pm
good monkey understands how the NWO works, its all stradegy with hate being the
weapon of choice. A lot of people on here are always pointing the finger at oneside
or the other… and thats irrelavent. This is a war of the mind. Over and over again
you see people repeating this cycle. killing eachother over all these reasons that
really in the end make no sense. The problem is that we are not consciencly aware
of the systems that puts this behavior into motion. Most people would say that its
the Elite playing everyone against eachother and its true to a degree. Buts its much
deeper than that. We have to understand what the root to all of this is. We have to think
outside the box for a different world, thats what change is. We cannot fight and
make a better world if our minds aren’t were they need to be. look at things for what they are.
January 9th, 2009 at 11:17 pm
and to you religous folks.
nobody is coming to save you.
if you want be saved then you have to
empower yourself and work along
side everyone else to make a better world.
its called responsibility. its a very simple concept
and you need to wake up to that.
January 9th, 2009 at 11:56 pm
If Isreal REAL, or are they just a bunch of thiefs, like Madoff. Were did the money go?
Why is he not in jail? becuase he is a JEW. Was the money sent to Isreal to kill KIDS, MOTHERS, FATHERS and SONS of NONE JEWS to take thire land and make a wall. How did
it happen? Well we’ll see. I’ll bet the Madoff jewise frends will get most of thire money back
and if your a GEN you lose.
January 10th, 2009 at 12:10 am
Neither Israel nor Hamas want peace. They want to kill each other. I say the rest of the world stays OUT of it, let these two ancient enemies have at each other like theyve been itching to do.
If we aided either side, we would just be seen as a badguy. Both sides are wrong. The world will be more peaceful when the governments and armies of Israel and Hamas are utterly destroyed. We should have let Israel and its neighbors fight it out a long time ago, instead of constantly playing “World Referee” and taking sides in a war we dont belong in.
My sympathy only lies with the civilians caught up on either side who had nothing at all to do with this.
January 10th, 2009 at 12:29 am
To Blogo
Mexico is not sending rockets to the US, but they are sending plenty of Drugs. Amercans like drugs they also like guns. Just like Iran-Contra. The war on drugs is lost just like the war agensts freedom figthers. The more you kill the to opprese, the more they will fight Back.
Do what US did with the indiands, let them set up Cosinos in Gasa, Tax them and every bodies happy.
January 10th, 2009 at 12:37 am
if gaza shoots small fire crackers that never kill anyone onto illegal armed to the teeth settlements that are built on u.n recognized Palestinian land then its not a attack on Israel.
it is just firing pissy little rockets onto its own land that just so happens to have ILLEGAL ARMED TO THE TEETH NON SEMITIC ASKANAZI (russian and german converts that have not one semitic gene in their entire bodies) impostors illegal homes.
sooooooooooo….. tell the send in the u.s and make all these impostor jews get back behind the u.n recognized lines.
then build a wall around them and see how they like it!
January 10th, 2009 at 2:05 am
Now Sacha Baron Cohen is going to entertain us with a black Jesus Christ depicted wearing a loincloth and a crown of thorns. How funny!
I say we entertain everyone too with an Ape from a zoo wearing a Rabbi’s garb. Sacha is bound to find that hilarious! How funny that will be!
January 10th, 2009 at 2:20 am
Better still, we can have a figure of hairy Sacha Baron Cohen dressed up in pink tights with a banana up his butt and the sign “sodom-loving leaders, gomorrah-loving people, I’m a Zionist butt boy” on display – and he’ll split his sides with laughter and so will the ADL:
January 10th, 2009 at 3:08 am
Israel is the whore of babylon blogspot……..I WILL BE DANCING IN THE STREETS WHEN IRAN, SYRIA, PAKISTAN, POSSIBLY RUSSIA, LEBANAON, BOMB THE SHIT OUT OF JERUSALEM, TEL AVIV, AND THE WHITE HOUSE, AND CONGRESS, ALSO THE “CITY OF LONDON” 10 THOUSAND DEAD ZIONIST IN A SPLIT SECOND! THERE IS HOPE
January 10th, 2009 at 3:16 am
news just in!!!!!!!
terrorists just dropped a race specific bomb on Israel!
it was designed to kill anyone with Semitic d.n.a!
reportedly all the Palestinians are dead and Israel had zero casualties!
January 10th, 2009 at 3:19 pm
John 8:44:
“You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, and has nothing to do with the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks out of his own character, for he is a liar and the father of lies.”
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