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    cryptogon.com
    Friday, April 17, 2009

    I didn’t even notice that at first, but because of the nature of the story, I took a closer look at the picture that went along with it. And… Boo!

    I threw the lines on there to make it stand out a bit more. See the story for the original.

    Jesus Missing From Obama’s Georgetown Speech; Nice Pyramid Symbolism, Though obamapyramid

    Obviously a coincidence.

    The full text of the speech is here, in case anyone is interested.

    Via: NBC Washington:

    Amidst all of the American flags and presidential seals, there was something missing when President Barack Obama gave an economic speech at Georgetown University this week — Jesus.

    The White House asked Georgetown to cover a monogram symbolizing Jesus’ name in Gaston Hall, which Obama used for his speech, according to CNSNews.com.

    The gold “IHS” monogram inscribed on a pediment in the hall was covered over by a piece of black-painted plywood, and remained covered over the next day, CNSNews.com reported.

    More: Pics of the Boarded up Pediment

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    104 Responses to “Jesus Missing From Obama’s Georgetown Speech; Nice Pyramid Symbolism, Though”

    1. Stephen Roberts Says:

      Errrrr so what, by putting those white lines in you make it stand out more and make it look more conspicuous……

      Do you honestly think they would have a picture of Allah instead.

      This is a non story,

      suppose the people who bladked it out are Illuminati???

      Ekudram Reply:

      I dont think you get it. This is a bigger picture then most would think. Its an attack on true Christians and the Christ Church. He doesnt want any true symbols of Christ. I dont think hes a muslim, far from it. I believe hes Esoteric (cant spell)

      jahtom Reply:

      Yes well anyway, Georgetown, is a Jesuit University, and the IHS, does not mean Iesus Homino salvatore, but is related to the Egyptian trinity Isis – Horus – Seth… and the pyramid that is behind Obama is nothing more than a Freemason symbol.. Well America is going to get the “Change” they asked for…

      Obama is just another puppet… but this site wont tell you who’s puppet he is… So keep on looking, cause you wont find it here.. The Jesuit and the black pope are in control of everything…

      Check this out
      http://commendatori.wordpress.com/vatican-jesuits/

      and if you want to know what the Denver Airport Murals are all about check this out…

      http://commendatori.wordpress.com/dia-murals/

      Matt Reply:

      IHS stands for In Hoc Signo or In This Sign, meaning the cross.

      Scott Reply:

      I believe you are right Stephen this does seem to be a none issue. But I would like you to consider the possibility that there is more here. Why not just hang a curtain up to frame in the President. Why go to the trouble of making something that covers the symbol but leaves the triangle so obvious. I’m sure we are over reading this but if you dismiss it entirely then you have no business here in the first place.

    2. Freedom Lost Says:

      No! They are your masters who do not believe in “one nation, under God, indivisible with Liberty and justice for all” so enjoy your newly created hell on earth with unending wars to finance the lifestyle they are used to and enslave your childrens children through limiteless taxation…..you lucky dog you!

      Scott Reply:

      You know I remember saying the pledge of allegiance in school. It’s to bad more Americans didn’t fight to keep it there at the time.

    3. john adams Says:

      our country is a deception. Where do we go? What should we do?

      templi beholder Reply:

      Library. Mountaintop.

    4. freedom man Says:

      John Adams you should protest and protest. What is wrong with you people. Protesting only wastes your time. Elect people to positions that can make a difference and hold them to the task. Anybody running on a dem or republican hard line do not get your vote. Vote is the answer that is if our current system of counting is credible. Protesting is not bad it just does not get a lot done. Hold your elected officials to task and if they stray from their task of holding your best interests and the nations best interest in mind recall and elect people who will. It is all in the vote and by God turn off the main stream media from your idiot box you can not garner any truth from these corporate whores.

      Rev Kenny Reply:

      WRONG. The problem is the ELITE. The banksters who run the PRIVATE Federal Reserve, the ones who really pull the strings. The last time we the people had a decent President, lie the ones you speak of, freedom man, his head was blown off in Dallas, TX. We must TAKE OUR COUNTRY BACK, it’s been hijacked. Elections don’t solve jack shit.

      templi beholder Reply:

      Agree REv but they know how to deal with violent revolutionaries -that is their specialty.
      Try to take rebellion to a-whole-natha-le-v-a-l.

      bvd Reply:

      elections always end up blaming the people cause we had something to do with it. what a scam.

      Bluebottle Reply:

      If elections resolved anything the assholes would ban them.

    5. 1mick13245 Says:

      Illuminati are saying, who is in control and who
      will install the capstone of the pyramid, and
      implant for them the New World Order…..

      the Puppet…. Barack Obama

    6. Roo Says:

      COMEON !!!!! you poor screwed up right wing paranoid wankers – your mother walks in the door with three pointed earings and you open up on her with the good ol’ assult weapon – she would obviously be ‘illuminati’. Get a fucking grip. (OK jones you can delete this one too when you’re ready)

      templi beholder Reply:

      Suspend disbelief, it is fun if not profitable.

    7. Texas Says:

      If the flipping Whore House didn’t like the IHS, then they should have picked ANOTHER PLACE to give the f**king speach.

      When Jesus gets back He’s gonna put that piece of plywood where the sun doesn’t shine.

      Bluebottle Reply:

      The cocksucker is copying Browns speech ( sic ) at St Paul’s Cathedral. They are completely controlled.

      Bluebottle Reply:

      What they are really implying is : we are the Messiahs, not the guy you worship in here. Subliminal eh!

    8. templi beholder Says:

      Ya I think the spirit of the pyramid is more important to his crew than any Jesus.

    9. tarp1 Says:

      Religion is an evil lie created to control and use the weak minded. Wise up people!
      I dont have the answers to the universe and neither do you!

      el nino Reply:

      stfu and leave people alone if you don´t like religion.
      organized religion is tool of control.
      not TRUE religion.

      1984 Reply:

      And if you all say that then what remains?

      Most of you are only christian because that is the religion which you were taught.

      All religion is obedience, because Big Brother in the sky demands it. Can even punish you for thoughtcrimes.

      no more wool over the eyes. Reply:

      You are absolutely true. We all have been conditioned with religious beliefs since birth.
      It is difficult to come to the truth that the illuminati created religions to further their agenda.
      Please read David Icke’s book The Biggest Secret. It will enlighten you. We have been such easy prey, for them, don’t make it any neasier for them.

    10. Gumby's Love Child Says:

      There is a lot of trolling going on in here, and I aint’ talking about game fishing either.

    11. Joe Mama Says:

      Hey Roo, are u a US citizeN? If you are, you need to understand that the 200 or so yrs of freedom that we have had are because of the hand full of people that are able to see what is going on, and if you look at good old mother England or Aussie land, you don’t have freedom anymore, hmmm, call me extreme, but if that is what it takes to retain my freedom then lock and load baby and take up a defensive fighting position, cause I am in it for the long haul.

      Get my Drift their MATE.

      ChankaLanka Reply:

      Unloading some rounds will have you playing right into the hands of the NWO who need a violent insurrection to prove all their DHS and MIAC reports to be “true”.

      You wanna prove the NWO right? You wanna give them the perfect pretext to enslave you in a FEMA camp? By all means go ahead.

      You’re either an operative, or a poor misguided soul who’s being played.

      templi beholder Reply:

      agree real change comes through peaceful action and i don’t mean sucky crappy flowers in the gun barrel. Something has gotta change here. This planet sucks , it is a @#$% skipping record ….revolutions all over the place and it keeps getting worse.

      JANINE Reply:

      IT STARTS WITH PEACE DEMONSTRATIONS, BUT IT ALWAYS ENDS WITH WAR TO GAIN FREEDOM. CHECK YOUR HISTORY BOOKS PEOPLE. IT HAS REPEATED THIS FORMAT FOR CENTURIES.

      THE RICH GET CONTROL, AND TAKE OVER A NATION AND PEOPLE. THEY CROWN THEMSELVES KINGS, AND START OPPRESSING THE PEOPLE TO MAINTAIN FULL CONTROL, AND TAKE ALL THEIR MONEY AND LANDS. THE PEOPLE PROTEST PEACEFULLY, THE KING SEND THEIR MILITARY INN TO QUELL THE PROTESTERS, MANY ARE KILLED IN THIS PROCESS. NEXT STEP – WAR IS STARTED.

      SOME OF YOU REALLY NEED TO GO BACK AND READ HISTORY BOOKS AGAIN.

      IT IS ALWAYS THE SAME, THAT WILL NEVER CHANGE. WHY DO YOU THINK OBAMA AND CRONIES HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT MARTIAL LAW SO MUCH. WHY DO YOU THINK THEY ARE RIGHT NOW TRAINING OUR OWN MILITARY TO QUELL THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. WHY THEY HAVE BORDER PATROL CHECKPOINTS 100 MILES INSIDE THE U.S. BORDERS. THEY ARE NOT HARRASSING THE IMMIGRANTS. THEY JUST GIVE THEM A PAPER COURT SUMMONS, AND LET THE GO. ALL THE REPORTS OUT THERE SHOW THEY ARE HARRASSING THE U.S. PEOPLE WITH FORCED SEARCHES. VIOLATING THEIR U.S. CONSTITUTIONS 4TH AMENDMENT RIGHTS.

      THEY KNOW THEY ARE GOING TO COLLAPSE OUR ECONOMY, AND BANKING SYSTEM SOON. AMERO COINS AND BILLS ALREADY MINTED AND PRINTED BACK IN 2007. LOOK UP INFO ON ARGENTINA OR ICELAND AND DO SOME READING. ELITE BANKERS LOANED THEM BILLIONS AND THEN REFUSED TO TAKE IT BACK IN ORDER TO CONTROL THEIR BANKING SYSTEM, JUST LIKE IN AMERICA NOW. THEY CALLED FOR A BANK HOLIDAY, THEN NEVER REOPENED THE BANKS. THEY STOLE ALL THE PEOPLE’S MONEY, AND CLOSED THE BANKS, AND LEFT THE COUNTRY WITH ALL THE LOOT. NOW 50% OF THE PEOPLE THAT WERE MIDDLE CLASS ARE NOW A LOWER POOR CLASS CITIZEN. THAT WAS 9 YEARS AGO AND THEY HAVE NEVER RECOVERED. THEY HAVE ALREADY DONE THE SAME THING IN SOME OTHER COUNTRIES ALSO. THEY WANT TO COLLAPSE OUR ECONOMY AND BANKS, THAT IS THE REASON FOR THE OUTRAGEOUS SPENDING BILLS. THEY KNOW WE WILL PROTEST. THEY ARE GETTING A JUMP ON US. THE OTHER COUNTRIES WERE THE TEST GROUND FOR DOING THE SAME THINK IN THE GOOD OLD U.S.A. GET EDUCATED AND READ PEOPLE. DON’T BE STUPID BLIND FOLLOWING SHEEP!

    12. phishybongwaters Says:

      You know you guys should learn your history. the US was not founded as a christian state. It was founded as a free state(country) that would allow anyone and everyone to practice which and whatever religion they chose to believe.

      Mountain out of a molehill indeed.

      Believe whatever you want, I prefer the flying spaghetti monster myself. But stop this destroying the christian united states crap, as it was never intended to be.

      Any country run by religion ends up destroyed, evil, or both. Read a history book and prove me wrong.

      ChankaLanka Reply:

      Whether you like the organized version of religions or not, the books like the new testament and many other religious texts, actually provide a really evolved set of morals that we still have trouble using today (Thou shall not kill, Do unto others as you would have them do unto you…)

      It is part of the NWOs agenda to destroy this moral fabric in humanity, or else they will not be willing to “love” and accept their enslavement, and the NWOs atrocities.

      Part of destroying that moral fabric is to erode the religious and spirtual morality in so many people today. This is why you’ll see heavy support for atheism and darwinism, all throughout big science, the mainstream media, and the public school system.

      I follow none of the known religions, but at least I can see the threats.

      dan from ohio Reply:

      sorry to disagree with you but Christianiity was practiced in the government buildings,taught in public schools and defended in the US courts.Try http://www.wallbuilders.com for the true Christian heritage of the US.Only after God was kicked out of the public square did this nation start to unravel….

      JANINE Reply:

      SO TRUE DAN

    13. Truth Says:

      I don’t think most understand this agenda of the NWO….Symbology/Architect is their language…You poor saps above haven’t got the slightest clue as to who these “elites” worship….You thnk the bankers are in control and at the top of the pyramid? I can assure you its is not humanity that is at the top of the Illuminist pyramid…It is the eye of horus or aka Lucifer.

      I think the Illuminati have done and EXCELLENT job with religion…Freemasonry as well, which was infiltrated by these Illuminist. They ruin the true church of God with indoctrination and their dogma beliefs, which are inherited into organized religion….

      USA was founded upon Illuminst beliefs, not Christian…..It was founded upon the Ancient mysteries.

      The “elites” or what I call them the Illuminist main agenda is to have us bow to their God aka horus, or commonly known as Satan, rather than the true God…Jesus.

      That is the point of this article. I pity Alex having to labeled a truthers as these “sheeps” are clearly unaware of the true agenda….Alex I know its controversial but an article needs to be done about the Ancient mysteries, and teachings of the occult that these “elites” practice. There is a lot of distortion between the sun God, and the son of god…Thanks peter joseph your illuminati tactic is workings out great! But you couldn’t even hold a decent debate with alex on the NWO and politics…How is that the mass follow this douche?

      Good article guys, most wont see the relevance, but then again the majority are ignorant, and are prone to the Illuminist “enlightenment” program aka NEW AGE RELIGION. This enlightenment is a deception just like the “kingdom of light”…..Lucifer is also known as the bearer of light….the true kingdom is the kingdom of God aka Jesus government…

      Now do people understand why they want to discredit Jesus? the bible and organized religion is two different things, and most don’t want to look into the bible for answers…People are just too damn lazy, and rather watch a youtube vid. or no offense Alex listen to you, rather than do their own research…

      I have to agree with some of the “disinfo” agents here there are definitely a herd of sheeps within the “truth” movement…..

      LOL Reply:

      Horus is not Lucifer you nutcase… He’s the child of the Egyptian trinity… As a practicing Egyptian Occultist I find your lack of knowledge on the pantheon disturbing… Jesus trained in Egypt, more than likely in one of the temples of Egypt dedicated to Horus… Get your facts straight next time before you make a fool of yourself. Ok thanks bye.

      Bluebottle Reply:

      You tell him LOL… he’s a troll.

      truth Reply:

      ok too much Zeitgeist I believe….
      Horus is the son of Isis mother goddess, but he is also the incarnate son of Osiris”god of the underworld, or the dead”. Osiris aka Nimrod after dying came to Isis in a spirit form an she conceived the child Horus. Lucifer(Osiris,Father), Mother(Goddess), and the son (all seeing eye, horus) this is the unholy trinity….

      Osiris the great Architect of the Universe, the Sun God of the ancients, and the ONE whom all MASONS bow to and worship. Osiris is the blazing star….

      I referred to Horus as lucifer because the son and the father are one and the same…He is the incarnate son of Nimrod, which means hes actually Nimrod reincarnated as Horus…SO horus is not only the son, but the father….

      BTW it is you who is making a fool of yourself, and this Egyptian trinity you speak of is actually the UNHOLY trinity get your facts straight.

      JANINE Reply:

      War god

      Horus was also said to be a war god and a hunter’s god; since he was associated with the falcon. Thus he became a symbol of majesty and power as well as the model of the pharaohs.[6] The pharaohs were said to be Horus in human form.

      Furthermore Nemty (also a war god meaning “He who travels”) was later identified as Horus.

      JANINE Reply:

      LUCIFER WAS SOMETIMES REFERRED TO AS THE EGYPTIAN GOD ANUBIS, OR BENU, OR THE MORNING STAR, AND NOT EVER HORUS.

      The Morning Star was the god, at times referred to as a bird, Benu to the Egyptians. He was the dying-and-reborn bird Phoenix, called the “Soul of Ram” who died on the World Tree in order to renew himself so to “shine on the world.” It is said his spirit dwelled in the phallic obelisk, called Benu or the Benhen Stone, representing the god’s sexual union with the Mother. Egyptian lore has several other versions of Lucifer previous to his incarceration into the Christian Devil.

      templi beholder Reply:

      Egyptians were tacky man. Fashion apocalypso.

      JANINE Reply:

      Horus is a god of the Ancient Egyptian religion, most commonly known by the Greek version Horus, of the Egyptian Heru/Har. Horus was an ancient and important deity. He was also the son of Isis and Osiris. Some details of the character are changed or intermixed with other characters throughout the different dynasties and Egyptian cults and religions. For example, when Heru (Horus) fuses with Ra the Sun God, he becomes Ra-Horakhty.[1]

      The Eye of Horus became an important Egyptian symbol of power. Horus had a man’s body and a falcon’s head. Horus fought with Seth for the throne of Egypt. In this battle one of his eyes was injured and later it was healed by Hathor. This healing of the eye became a symbol of renewal. Horus united Egypt and bestowed divinity upon the pharaohs who were viewed as incarnations of Horus in life.

      meanjean Reply:

      You are very interesting, Truth. Pls go to Rense.com and read some articles by Philip Jones. He is listed by author on the left hand side. You may contact me later at jbush@lycos.com. I would really like to know what you think of his work. Thanks

      Lyndon Reply:

      That was an interesting perspective. I am not sure how much I agree with it, but it was definitely a interesting angle. However, I don’t think you should diss Alex Jones for not seeing the NWO in the same light that you do. He gets information out very well, without bogging us down with “religious” points of view.

    14. G.O. Says:

      Haven’t any of you ever heard of separation of church and state. I’m sure if he gave a speech under the symbol of a non-Christian religion you’d be freaking out.

      ChankaLanka Reply:

      Why give the speech in a church at all?

      shocked and awed Reply:

      It didn’t stop him from holding a Seder supper in the whitehouse. Bet he didn’t ask anyone to cover their star of David.

      will hale Reply:

      i think he watched the doco zeitgeist and realises ALL religion is a crock of shit !
      its used by the elite to control you and to separate you.
      sigh Obama is an insider,on one hand he tells the turkish parliment to face up to its history and when pressured to go after the crimes of bush and cheney he tells us he sees nothing positive in pinning blame on things that happend in the past.
      he is a hypocrite,last year i loved this guy…now well i see him worse than bush why? because he passed himself off as a man of integrity and good when its clear he has been lying thru his teeth.
      he has been installed to calm the masses while rome burns.
      rendition is still allowed
      torture transferred overseas so america can say we dont torture
      wars still being fought
      patriot act re-affirmed under obama
      every single appointment is a retread from the bush or clinton eras
      change we can believe in ??
      i dont think we can stop what has been planned for all of us most will passively walk to their fate while drinking flouridated water and watching paris on t.v
      eyoeyo your as fanatical as the muslims in your religion is the right one.
      dont you see the elite love to see this it stops you looking at the men who pull the strings

      truth Reply:

      there never was a SEPARATION BETWEEN CHURCH AND STATE… And now they want to “unite” its a farce. Just look at the Vatican…. Look at how the Freemasons incorporated their symbology and dogma into america, and other nations….

      Like I said there never was a separation between church and state..do people believe everything the MSM tells them? Yeah probably just like how they are selling the UFO/aliens theology and people sap that up….

      LOL your the troll and so are you follower Bluebottle.

      dan from ohio Reply:

      for the first 150 years of American history the true meaning of the seperation of Church and State meant no DENOMINATION [of Christianity] was to be established over another Denomination.Also Government was to stay out of religion,not religion to stay out of government.The Courts have redefined the word Religion but the original meaning was Denomination.No Demonination was to be established over another Christian demonination.Try http://www.wallbuilders.com to read the true Christian heritage of the US and also to read the true original meaning to the term Seperation of Church and State.

    15. EYOEYO Says:

      I absolutely love people who think it is all about the bankers, I would have to agree with some of what Mr? Truth had to say. This life is all about spirituality, not religion but the True Spiritual manifestation of the One who is True. Truth is what this life is about and knowing the Truth is the only thing that matters. When Osama excuse me Obama had the pyramid put over IHS he was showing his masters that he is committed to the destruction of TRUTH. If you think solely about the NWO this acronym was a conspiracy just 5-6 yrs ago, now it is completely mainstream. This is the real deal what the sorry saps don’t understand is when the bright shining star comes to power he is bringing his legions of demons, he will have no need for the people that put forth the ground work for the NWO, people like Obama and the occult worshippers will be cast aside. You know the devil promises treasures, but the TRUTH is that he is the great deceiver, the great advesary…I will exalt the most High, I will set my throne above the stars of heaven. Anybody remember who boastfully made that damning claim. Face the facts folks there is but one way to eternity and that is through the LORD JESUS CHRIST, if Berry the Ferry Soetoro wishes to belive the false religion of Islam so be it. But to say that USA was founded upon Illumanist roots, absolutely false. This is the most free land in all the world. And even with this problematic administration the majority of GOD’s TRUTH seekers the real Christians not those that belong to a demoninational religion, but the TRUE spiritual believers will be protected by GOD because…MY WILL BE DONE ON EARTH AS IT IS IN HEAVEN…HE IS I AM…PRAISE be to the HOLY LAMB

      truth Reply:

      Amen for sure.
      But I still believe our foundations of America was not based on Christian roots, unless you believe in organized religion which is all corrupt through the Illuminist, and then through the Masons…They proclaim its roots are of Christian background, but even “Christianity” is from the pagan/egyptian roots…Hence the reason we put a star on a tree…Its nature we are worshippping oh and Santa…haha more like Satan.

      No where in bible does it say when Jesus was conceived, the 23,24, and 25 was the rising of the winter solace sun, they worship the sun god….

      dan from ohio Reply:

      actually the Bible does give hints to the date Jesus was CONCIEVED.And it falls on Dec. 25th.Christmas means The Anoitted is Sent.Try studying Leviticus 23 and the jewish Holy Days and apply them them to the life of Christ.Jesus was born on the Feast of Tabernacles which fell on the gentile calender as oct 15th.now counting backwards a normal pregnancy of 40 weeks you end up on Dec.25th.Also at the time of Jesus,s death at 33 and a half years of age count backwards and again you end up on feast of Tabernacles.It was important to the Jews of when a child was concieved rather than the date of birth.Also by applying the Jewish Holy Days to Revelations we find that The Feast of Trumpets,The Feast of Atonement,and the Feast of Tabernacles are all shown to be fullfilled in Revealtions.Study the Holy days to understand….

      templi beholder Reply:

      The holy lamb eh? O.K. The holy lambmmmmnnnaaa……….

    16. ezmone707 Says:

      Amen and Amen

    17. LOL Says:

      The Qabalah says you guys have no CLUE what your talking about when it comes to the Holy Trinity/Pyramid… Its articles like these that make the movement we’re in look bad.

      truth Reply:

      so are you a new ager? you like magic don’t you?

      I’m sorry my friend you are following the ancient teachings that these criminal Illuminist/elites practice…No wonder your clueless, deceived might I add.

      templi beholder Reply:

      God forbid people get together and talk and discuss what is on their @#$% minds.

      Sorry man.

      dan from ohio Reply:

      lets see doesn,t The Zohar teach the Triune nature of God?What about the Jewish Targums?Who is The Word/THE MEMRA according to these teachings?God I believe…..

    18. Sean Says:

      The point to take from this is not that Obama is a Jew, a Muslim, or a Christian, or that he is a closet atheist, or a closet Satanist, it is that Christianity is being suppressed in favor of our state religion. Our state religion is Toleration. It is essentially Lockean Toleration. If one studies Locke it quickly becomes apparent that he hated “Popery” and wished there to be a “tolerant” state in which there was no official religion.
      He threw out so much more than Catholicism or Anglicanism when he threw out the bathwater. In the process of that experiment, there was set up a new powerful religion to sweep the nations. Man, by his very nature, is religious. He holds beliefs about the world around him (faith), he has a code of acceptable behavior based on those beliefs (morality), he holds certain texts/documents to be authoritative in expressing the beliefs (scripture/canon), and has certain rituals to “officially” express his worship of what he believes to be omnipotent (worship).
      Our founders established (perhaps, unwittingly) a state religion under the 1st Amendment when it chose non-establishment of religion and non-prohibition of the exercise of religion. Our country doesn’t require us to believe the state religion in all matters, but in order to participate in certain offices and activities, be free of certain penalties, one must hold to the dogmas at least in outward word and behavior. For example, I am a librarian, and I work for a government institution. If I were to practice my religion by making a display on, say, the current traditional Catholic movement, I would be asked to take it down, or balance it out with other religions, even such things as witchcraft/wicca (thus promoting evil). If I did this enough, I would probably loose my job (= excommunication). Therefore I suffer a penalty for offending against the state religion for following the commandments of my religion to make disciples of all nations (Mt 28:19-20) and to not hide my light under a bushel but to let it shine for all to see (Mt 5:5). My religion is marginalized from the public sphere. This is my example, and I admit not very serious, but hate speech laws come to mind, or even things that are not legally mandated like covering a IHS plaque. Just imagine if they said NO. Ha!
      This type of stuff was hard to perceive in by-gone days because society held Christian ethics and customs in common, so there was little strife except for some notable circumstances. This would lead some to cite examples of Christianity among the founding fathers and the residual Christianity in our culture, and how we have *strayed* from the founding principles, but the outward resemblance to Christianity was just borrowings from Christianity into the new religion, just as pagan customs were borrowed into Christianity among former pagans. Now, though, our society has fallen far away from Christianity not only in belief, but also in morals and customs. So now we see more clearly the contrast between those who hold orthodox beliefs and the official religious system of our country as they collide dramatically, and the growing mass clamor for more suppression of the non-state religion. Our country descends into chaos as there are no stable foundations to rest upon. We are as drunk with the room spinning.
      Thus the “liberty” we have a right to must limit something else to be exercized. In order to have the right to abort your baby, you must limit the right of others: another’s right to live must be suppressed. That is because we have a [non-]standard of “tolerance” instead of a Christian standard of innocent life being inviolate. Do you see how no problem can truly be solved this way! It is like being out to see without a clue as to direction! This is a primary ill in our society and why we are so susceptible to domination by tyrants! (Read: The extreme of OVER regulation, OVER limitation.)
      The anarachists claim that we should have a completely free market, no law or standards at all to influence, but even in that assertion, ironically, orwellianly, they are trying to set standards and law and limits to freedom (as they define it). (Read: The extreme of UNDER regulation, UNDER limitation = toleration!)
      Complete unlimited freedom is only possible in the realm of theory, not in the real world. Complete neutrality in government is impossible except in theory books. In real practice humans must, by their nature, not be neutral, because neutrality will never affect everybody equally. So to enforce a dogma of “religious freedom” that affects equally both those who believe in a secularist worldview, and those moved by very different ethical and epistemological visions, e.g., traditional Christians, is impossible in reality. “Religious freedom,” as enforced by the liberal state in conformity with recent Supreme Court decisions, anathematizes orthodox religious believers. Liberalism, defined by its adherents as the indiscriminate practice of tolerance, is not in fact liberal.
      As one studies this more you realize “freedom of religion” is just as Orwellian a phrase a “Ministry of Love”. The “tolerant” state is intolerant. Morality is immoral. Good is sin. Jesus is Satan. True freedom is tyranny. The list goes on. When a country divorces itself from Christ and His Church, from its true and stable foundation, it is not long before it begins to have systemic problems. This seed was planted in our founding. This the founders did not see because they did not for see our time of extreme wickedness sanction of every level, and depravity practiced every day among the populace without a blink of an eye. We love sin, we hate God when He gets in out way, and do not see the true connection between abortion, tortured Iraqis, everythings railed against by Alex, and our country’s lust, avarice, greed, pride, perversion, etc.
      We are now on the operating table, almost at the flatline. Will we be revived to life, or descend into death and the bodies dissolution?
      Christ proved His divinity when he rose from the dead on Easter a little less than 2000 years ago. He walked among His disciples for 40 days. Eleven of them died in belief of that fact. Eyewitnesses wrote about it, and a Church was established by Him which endures to this day. No other religion can make and support this claim, even though there may be commendable things about the religion. He is worthy of public recognition. No longer ignore him and hid him under the bushel of “tolerance”.
      A just country would not offend against its true founder and source of authority. Understand why Christianity is being more openly attacked and marginalized. We should strive for an establishment of Christianity as our state religion. Jesus Christ as our true sovereign ruler. His Church as His representative body to teach and interpret His teachings. State tolerance of other beliefs should be in the form private worship and teaching. This limits their freedom to worship and teach in public because they have not been instituted by Jesus Christ. This is sacrificed for the greater right and greater good, to which an inferior right must always give place, of fostering souls in the religion and worship of their Creator and His Son. This should be inserted as a central plank in any proposal for reform of this country. If it isn’t, make my words now, this country will not survive, and any proposal will be at best temporary.
      We MUST make a choice before the soul of this country dies and tyranny comes in all its forms and we live under the fruition of our anti-Christ tolerance: the ultimate toleration of evil in our midst ruling us. God bless you all!

      Recommended Reading: The American Myth of Religious Freedom, by Kenneth R. Craycraft

      Bluebottle Reply:

      This is getting a bit like the ‘Life of Brian’ you know, blessed are the cheese makers and all that.

    19. tweakpiece Says:

      You know what’s really amusing in this era of doublethink? And mind you, I’m not an Obama lover, but had they not covered up the “IHS”, then from where the president was giving his speech it would’ve been over his head.

      Then everyone would’ve been claiming that he thinks he’s really good ol’ Jesus, since he didn’t block out the Roman symbol.

      You people really need to unplug and go get some fresh air…maybe smell a dandelion or two…try catching a sunset or something and stop giving in to the hype.

      Just BE for Chrissakes.

      templi beholder Reply:

      bee?

    20. DrMummy Says:

      Sean

      Are you serious?

      Really?

      You’re really advocating for a theocracy?

      Have you seen how those have turned out? You know, like Iran, Afghanistan, 15th century Europe?

      I sure as hell don’t want the same people messing up our world sticking their ugly mitts into my religion as well.

      The goodness, peace, and compassion of religion disappears when it’s centralized and turned into a bureaucracy.

      You’ve suffered from the Curse of Greyface and have missed the point of religion in the first place.

      (Hail Eris. Hail Discordia. No Hot Dog Buns.)

      Sean Reply:

      Hi DrMummy,
      Not a theocracy, a constitutional republic which officially recognizes God and His Church, and Christianity as the official religion (which guides its laws, morality, and customs). This does not mean priests filling offices or the Church running the government. It is the government and Church being friends instead of at odds as they are now (who cooperates when they are separated and has a wall between them?). There have been and are countries which have done this (Ireland, Malta, Europe of the past) which did not become tyrannical because of this. Tyranny does not discriminate. It can happen to any society no matter what religion. We Americans are facing this in spite of our glorious republic and our founding fathers. It makes it worse, however, when we work against the God who created us. Please note: The most tyrannical regime, which gets the cake every time when Alex and others talk, is England. It is England which paved the way to our world today. If Henry VIII didn’t set up his own church, established himself as head with unlimited powers (perverting the teaching of divine right of rulers), then we probably would not have had the massive religious wars in Europe and the real reforms going on at that time became derailed to become the “Enlightenment” and then into all these things which are decried everyday on this show. If you don’t believe, that’s fine, but tyranny doesn’t appear just out of nowhere. It is simply a reflection of the society. Many of us are tyrants in constant rebellion against good. I really wonder how many people want true reform in our society. I wonder how many just want the good times back when cares could be cast aside. God allowed us time to change our ways without undue coercion, like a loving father. Now the tough loves starts and we are being allowed to taste the fruits of our actions. Those fruits are very bitter.

      DrMummy Reply:

      What’s so special about Christianity? Every religion pretty much says the same thing.

      Every religion has jerks who hijack the message.

      Also, by endorsing a specific religion, you create official class divides.

      This group of people is more American than the other. It triggers a chilling effect. Name one group as superior, and the rights of the others slip away.

      Neutrality isn’t perfect, but it’s the least bad option because every group has the power to do as much good or as much bad as they will.

      Try as we might, we can’t erase the capacity for evil from people. Whatever we get our hands on, someone’ll eventually taint it. Be it Christianity or anything else.

      But that’s free will. It’s something God gave us.

      If God isn’t willing to take it from us, what makes you think that God would allow us mere humans to be able to do it?

      dan from ohio Reply:

      actually what makes Christianity special is that God Reaches out to US [his creation]and not US trying our best[by traditions and practices,etc] to reach out to Him.

      Sean Reply:

      “Also, by endorsing a specific religion, you create official class divides.”

      We will have class divides until the end of time. We are different and unequal by nature. Some are smarter than others or have talents. We have deformed people and people with disabilities. We have people who can’t feed themselves. We have laws and customs to curb injustice against certain other people, particularly the innocent and those who cannot defend themselves. So endorsing a certain religion does not create a class divide, it already exists, as I said in my last post because our nation must, by nature, endorse a certain accept religion. It is toleration. By its nature it encompasses very religion as long as it doesn’t “talk back” or make demands of it. Latest case is homosexual marriage. Out of tolerance, this is being incorporated into the official dogma structure of our official religion. All religions must conform to this in certain ways to enjoy certain benefits. Sadly, almost every group has conceded. This is how you’ll get one-world religion. Not by religions getting “extreme” but all of them watering down into the one-world tolerance religion which is intolerant when it comes to orthodoxy.

      “Neutrality isn’t perfect, but it’s the least bad option because every group has the power to do as much good or as much bad as they will.”

      Do what you will. Is that the motto of Satan? I maintain that neutrality of state religion is impossible, because when religions collide or ideas conflict, here must be a break from neutrality to rule. It is a hierarchy of rights. Example: Does a Christian have a right to teach that homosexual activity is immoral, as the state continues to sanction that same activity? There is a conflict here. Another conflict: Does a Jehovah’s Witness have a right to refuse blood transfusion if refusing it they would die and the procedure was not overburdonsome? What does a Christian doctor do? It’s not so black and white.

      My point it, the greater force to curb misuse of power and immorality is a SELF check and balance. Religion, and in particular, Christianity, is the greater force in human life to greater a culture of voluntary SELF check and balance. As you say, it won’t eliminate the capacity to do evil, but will be the greatest force toward good. Greater than the 1st Amendment, and greater than the mass of laws we have building up around us to compensate for our collective immorality as a nation. Tacitus noted in Rome that there was a great body of laws to compensate for the immorality of the people because they had strayed from their morality. It can be said, that with the acceptance of the Christian religion by European nations, that Europe entered into a great growth period from circa 500 to circa 1500. The age of faith, they call it. Even though we have had a lot of material progress since circa 1500, we have had an increase in immorality and tyranny (measured according to scale). I would love to hear other people’s ideas.

      dan from ohio Reply:

      hmmmm,lets see if we follow all the comandments and love one another and beat our swords into plow shares this would be a bad thing?

      DrMummy Reply:

      I never said Christianity isn’t good. It think it’s very, very good.

      However, it is corruptible.

      Also, what you described as the difference between christianity and other religions, is more like the difference between mysticism and religion.

      Religions are established traditions and practices. Mysticism is the act of hearing god’s word in the heartbeat of creation.

      Mystics wrote the words in bible as a way to explain what they felt when they felt God’s word. Religious Leaders usurp those writings and claim that they are an accurate interpretation of what God is saying to us.

      How could anyone possibly think that God is small enough to fit into one religion’s conception of him?

      Yes, God runs to us. However, people who are attached to their religions will run away from god when his light starts burning away that which has grown away from the true vine.

      Religion is pretty much the same as most everything else. Like everything else it comes from god. Therefore ,we like it because it reminds us of him. However, some people will run from God in order to keep their precious religion.

      CS Lewis said that the mightiest demons aren’t made from the weakest angels. Rather, the most sinister traps from hell are the things that can also be the greatest tools for good.

      Anything in creation is created. Religion is just as created as everything else here. When we forget that, we’re just worshiping golden calves.

      dan from ohio Reply:

      this is why I try to follow the words of jesus concerning the last days.He said”LET NO MAN DECIEVE YOU,for many shall come in my name and decieve many.

      nwo Reply:

      DAN FROM OHIO YOU ARE A DERANGED HUMAN BEING THAT IS EXACTLY WHY OUR FOUNDING FATHER CREATED A CONSTIUTION THAT SEPERATED CHURCH AND STATE
      BUT KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK AND SPEW YOURE AGENDA AND SHOW YOURE TRUE COLORS YOU MAKE ME SICK

    21. Nicolae Says:

      Ex-Italy Pres – 9-11 Was
      CIA/Mossad Operation
      By the Staff of American Free Press
      4-15-9

      Former Italian President Francesco Cossiga, who revealed the existence of Operation Gladio, has told Italy’s oldest and most widely read newspaper that the 9-11 terrorist attacks were run by the CIA and Mossad, and that this was common knowledge among global intelligence agencies. In what translates awkwardly into English, Cossiga told the newspaper Corriere della Sera:

      “All the (intelligence services) of America and Europeknow well that the disastrous attack has been planned and realized from the Mossad, with the aid of the Zionist world in order to put under accusation the Arabic countries and in order to induce the western powers to take part in Iraq and Afghanistan.”

      Cossiga was elected president of the Italian Senate in July 1983 before winning a landslide election to become president of the country in 1985, and he remained until 1992.

      Cossiga’s tendency to be outspoken upset the Italian political establishment, and he was forced to resign after revealing the existence of, and his part in setting up, Operation Gladio. This was a rogue intelligence network under NATO auspices that carried out bombings across Europe in the 1960s, 1970s and ’80s. Gladio’s specialty was to carry out what they termed “false flag” operations-terror attacks that were blamed on their domestic and geopolitical opposition.

      In March 2001, Gladio agent Vincenzo Vinciguerra stated, in sworn testimony, “You had to attack civilians, the people, women, children, innocent people, unknown people far removed from any political game. The reason was quite simple: to force the public to turn to the state to ask for greater security.”

      Cossiga first expressed his doubts about 9-11 in 2001, and is quoted by 9-11 researcher Webster Tarpley saying “The mastermind of the attack must have been a sophisticated mind, provided with ample means not only to recruit fanatic kamikazes, but also highly specialized personnel. I add one thing: it could not be accomplished without infiltrations in the radar and flight security personnel.”

      Coming from a widely respected former head of state, Cossiga’s assertion that the 9-11 attacks were an inside job and that this is common knowledge among global intelligence agencies is illuminating. It is one more eye-opening confirmation that has not been mentioned by America’s propaganda machine in print or on TV. Nevertheless, because of his experience and status in the world, Cossiga cannot be discounted as a crackpot.

      http://www.americanfreepress.n.....ed118.html

      Du Nord Reply:

      For the Canadians out there:

      Perhaps now Mr. Dion and the Federal Liberals will apologize to Lesley Hughes.

      Remember her? She is the professional journalist who was treated like toxic waste and dropped as a candidate during last fall’s Federal Election because of an article she wrote in 2002 or 2003 (I believe) which brought up the possibility of Israeli involvement.

      I hope Mr. Cossiga comes to Canada to speak. Thank you, Mr. Cossiga, for your courage. May God bless you and yours.

    22. truth Says:

      to everyone who doesn’t believe Christianity is from pagan roots here is a nice page, also shows the occult calendar and the significance of these dates, for they are practicing numerologists, and everything else which is divine….

      http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/n1796.cfm

      Sean Reply:

      Knowledgeable Christians know the pagan borrowings into their religion. The Easter Vigil just recently started with a bon-fire. I know it comes from pagan Ireland. St. Patrick borrowed it to convert the Irish. The monks from Ireland spread throughout Europe and influenced the other rites. Now it is universal in Western Christianity. Big deal. It is so far removed from its origins it isn’t even pagan anymore. It is so incorporated into Christianity it has been given a whole new meaning, namely, Christ rising from the darkness of death to the light of eternal life, and how we imitate His life. Red herring.

      nwo Reply:

      SEAN YOU MISS THE BIG POINT IT IS NOT BORROWING IT IS SIMPLE TRANSFORMATION OLD TO NEW IT RECYCLES ITSELF TO A MEANS TO CONTROL AND SUBDUE PEOPLE SO
      PEOPLE WILL NOT THINK FOR THEM SELVE.

      templi beholder Reply:

      Gross…. Divine? Nasty!

      Ekudram Reply:

      Sean is correct in the borrowings. It was done by the Roman church to convince Pagans to join. Those holidays have nothing todo with Christ or believing in his teachings. Note that the expounding of this issues is what the Illuminati want you todo. Its a way to divide the anti-NWO movement and make the non-Christians hold in distain the Christians that support the anti-NWO movement. NOTE: ALL Christains should be against the NWO. As for non-Christians, your reasons maybe different from the Christians point of view but the Goal is the same.. No NWO.

    23. truth Says:

      lol, and bluebottle, you might want to look at that as well…..we can debate all you want but in the end it is you who will look like a fool.

      DrMummy Reply:

      Get in on the Cosmic Giggle Factor, buddy.

      Remember the Law of Fives:
      Anything can be linked to the number 5.

      (I find that the more I think about the Law, the more it manifests around me)

      Zalty Lives
      Tropichrist Zuperstar
      Everything you want.
      Forever

      Z A L T Y
      A T
      L L
      T A
      Y T L A Z

      templi beholder Reply:

      I want to hop on the fool bandwagon too. I refuse to ride the other one- too depressing.

    24. 1984 Says:

      So? Its not like USA is a christian nation. Many christians for sure but that is not the same thing.

    25. Humanoid Says:

      What if your just reading to much into it. Theres nobody more crazy that a conspiracy theorist. Maybe they covered it because they didnt want a big issue made out of it from the aclu?

      truth Reply:

      Like bush has said we will not tolerate outrageous conspiracy claims so why would they have something to fear? This is clearly a way discredit Jesus…Anyone who is not blind can see this, that is if you know about the esoteric agenda, and the ancient mysteries. The apex behind him as well sort of says who hes working for…Oh and you can’t forget the apex being black, yes maybe coincidence, or maybe looking into it too much, but when you know the occult, and the Illuminati you will realize this makes perfect sense..

      To anyone who thinks this article is irrelevant, then go ahead and be “enlightened” by their dark lord, I guarantee you it will be a decision you will learn to regret. Prisonplanet, seriously needs to do more articles on the occult order and the Illuminati.

      DrMummy Reply:

      The “Illuminati” isn’t trying to discredit Jesus. What discredits Jesus is people misusing his credibility by attaching his name to their selfish agendas.

      What discredits Jesus is using his name to neglect their God-given sense.

      A lot of people use Jesus’ name as a cover for spiritual laziness, therefore symbols of Christianity seem to be symbols of complacency and ignorance.

      So, the decay of this age’s dominant faith isn’t some conspiracy involving the higher levels of government. It’s a result of ordinary people doing what ordinary people tend to do. That is, we try to get as much as we can, for as little as we can.

      It’s a part of the unwitting conspiracy of the stupid. Those who don’t want to work their minds, spirits, and bodies try to punish those who do, because it forces them to to do more to just get by.

      DrMummy Reply:

      PS

      I’m an occultist.

      boo.

      I’ll tell the Illuminati you said hi.

      truth Reply:

      also if they have nothing to hide, why do they just avoid it? wouldn’t it make more sense to announce these “outrageous” conspiracy theories as just conspiracies, rather than cover it up

      Ekudram Reply:

      1 man commanding 20 men from a cave is a pretty good conspiracy theory too. I say lets call thier theory what it is. Time to use thier own tactics against them.

    26. David Says:

      Christianity is clearly under attack, yesterday I saw race to witch mountain, in it the aliens were here because they had ruined their environment and atmosphere! Ring any bells?????? The symbolism in the movies at the moment is very intriguing but hardly as relevant as the issues covered by Alex every day. In the movie with Nick Cage, Knowing, I don’t recommend anyone under 18 seeing it. It clearly has NWO written all over it and has attacks on Christianity all through it. For example;

      1. The companies at the beginning and end are NWO signitures, first an eye and then a mountain (pyramid)
      2. The angels are blond blue eyed and demand we give up our children, we have to choose.
      3. The movie has sign language thouhgt the boy isn’t deaf.
      4. Only special people aka children are choosen.
      5. The world is destroyed by fire.
      6. The movie is trauma based mind control 101 with escalating violence.
      7. His father is a Paster yet is a self sacrificing idiot not willing to try to save his family because it is gods will. This is more rapture, lie down to evil rubbish inviltrating Chrisianity.
      8. The tree of life is on another planet, angels are aliens and the government knew but only informed people at just before the end.
      9 Lie down and die. Life is worthless.
      10. Christianity was wrong.

      The fact that there is anti-Christianity coming out of the white house should not be a shock to people. The white house hasn’t been Christian for almost 100 years. If anyone can find other Illuminati symbolism in Knowing I would be interested, as for Obama, I recommend buying Alex’s new movie for everyone you love, it funds the Truth movement and it gives them a good quality DVD. For everyone else I recommend buying a machine that burns more then one disc at once.

      PS – If nothing else, the discussion here has been interesting, thanks. Interesting comments Ekudram…

      Kind Regards

    27. chuckie_bald_loser Says:

      bunch of idiots

    28. David Says:

      chuckie_bald_loser – Though symbolism may not seem that significant, symbolism is a powerful way to control the public. Why is it chuckie_bald_loser that companies brand and have logo’s or trademarks? Symbolism is like a flag waving in the breeze, it stands out and is immediately impactfull. The NWO uses every means necessary to undermine values, family, faith and independent thought. I know it sounds absurd, how can there be a subliminal, deliberate series of messages programming the public? I suggest research and think for yourself. As for America’s president, everyone needs to watch AJ’s new movie.

      PS – I liked the article because it gets you wondering about many symbols used by the NWO.

      Kind Regards

      TRUTH Reply:

      Amen, at least some are aware of the symbolism, and deception played in organized Religion….But the truth is Jesus is the incarnate soul of God, just like Horus(tammuz) was the incarnate soul of Osiris(nimrod)….

      We see here the true battle waged, good against evil, and no there is no in between….although the majority are the inbetween. some will say there is no black vs. white its all illusion…well I think we have enough proof to say evil exists, and so will the good. just like moral and immoral there is not half moral and half immoral, choose.

    29. Bluebottle Says:

      The Messiah, or the Anti – Christ ?

    30. HaHaHayou fucks Says:

      your all so easily played all of you are so laughable and pathetic

      run along sheep

    31. Tasmanian Devil Says:

      Whoever writes his speeches is a fucking MASTER! The siver tongue belongs not to Barry but to another lurking in the shadows!

    32. 1984 Says:

      If he had the cross behind him, we would instead hear that he is the messiah.. there is no win in this really.

    33. lionswhelp Says:

      Hey Tarp1,

      From what have read in the Bible Jesuis Christ has the answers.
      We humans were given 6 thousand years to try and bring peace without God the Creator. The prince of this world Satan the devil is still its god for now. Time is running out for all this evil.
      Jesus said he is coming soon, Revation 22:7,12-13. He will execute all those evil jokers that think they are so smart,Psalm 110:5-6- The Lord is at your right hand; He shall execute kings in the day of his wrath. He shall judge among ther nations, He shall fill the places with dead bodies, He shall execute the heads of many countries.

      The Lionswhelp

      Everything that can be shaken will be shaken Reply:

      True enough lionswhelp. 6000 years are completed or 6 of God’s days. (for to the Lord a thousand years are as one day and a day is as a thousand years 2 Peter 3:8) We have just entered the seventh day of the Lord, a day in which he completed all his work and rested and blessed it and made it holy.

      From the time of Adam to Christ was 4000 yrs or 4 days and from Christ to now was 2000 yrs or 2 days. So we are in the seventh day from the beginning and the third day from Christ. Jesus rose from the grave EARLY on the third day.
      We should not be amazed at the rise of the nwo or their power, and do not fear them. But know this. Their satanic power is for a very short season and then their end will come. Get ready to watch history repeat and history be made.

      Exodus 19:11 And be ready against the THIRD DAY: for the THIRD DAY the Lord will come down in the sight of all the people upon mount Sinai.

      Exodus 19:16 And it came to pass on the THIRD DAY IN THE MORNING, that there were thunders and lightnings, and a thick cloud upon the mount, and the voice of the trumpet exceeding loud; so that all the people that was in the camp trembled.

      Hosea 6:2 After two days will he revive us: in the THIRD DAY HE WILL RAISE US UP, and we shall live in his sight.

      Read your bible people. It is crammed full of clues regarding the seventh (sabbath) day and the third day of the Lord.

    34. Jordan Madison Says:

      Obama: There can only be one, ‘One’.

      Some people have argued that Obama does not want to use religion to further a political ideology. However, Obama did evoke the Sermon on the Mount, at this Georgetown appearance, to further his economic agenda. Although Obama failed to mention Jesus Christ by name for the Sermon on the Mount.

      “There is a parable at the end of the Sermon on the Mount that tells a story of two men…‘the rain descended and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house…it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock,’” Obama said.

      “We cannot rebuild this economy on the same pile of sand,” he added. “We must build our house upon a rock.”

      The last statement is particularly ironic since building your house upon a ‘ROCK‘ means to build your house with Christ as the foundation. Obama decided to blot out the real foundation from the timeless parable.

      See the hi-res pictures:
      http://tinyurl.com/djtzgm

    35. Default Says:

      So the Antichrist covers up the name of Jesus.

      Is anybody surprised by this here?

    36. David Says:

      I feel it is important not to confuse religious feelings for political acumen. They will use anything to further their agenda, say anything, be anything. They are working towards a long term plan to kill many of us. Alex himself admits it’s much worse then even he can describe. Yes they use symbolism but we all have to remember their cynical feelings towards us all. They hate us and will in time reveal their true face, soon Obama is going to reveal himself to everyone, causing more rebellion. They are all finished as far as I am concerned, history has shown us time and again that corruption destroys itself. America is one of the last lights in the world, though it flickers ever dimmer, there is still hope.

      Obama is just part of a long line of evil men, look inside yourselves and know when the time comes many will rise with you.

      Kind Regards

    37. EYOEYO Says:

      From: Dan
      Subject: Jeff Rense fired
      Date: Friday, March 27, 2009
      Heard a rumor the Jeff Rense was fired from GCN because he posted an article that Alex Jones is a Zionist agent. I called GCN. Ted Andersen is not in today but the first person I talked to confirmed the rumor, and the second person said they couldn’t talk about it. This is extremely disheartening for all Americans who value the first amendment. If Ted Andersen does not, then itis our duty to expose him.
      Dan

      Hi Dan.
      I was not ‘fired’ because I was never paid by GCN. I was letting them have use of my program in exchange for commercial minutes each hour.

      This is all about Jones.who called me at home last Tuesday afternoon just past 1pm and threatened to “destroy” me (and my family) over the well-written story by Brother Nathanael Kapner researching and seeking to understand the reasons why Jones is, and has long been, pro-zionist and an unabashed apologist of zionist Israel and its genocide of Palestinians. and generally steers people away from AIPAC and the Rothschild City of London banking monolith which controls so much of the Western world. The story is available here: http://www.realjewn ews.com p=387.

      Note how the article cites direct quotes from Jones’ own PrisonPlanet message board.

      I also, as the world knows, always encourage and post legitimate rebuttals to stories.

      In fact, when I told Jones to stop threatening me on the phone, he maniacally (no exaggeration) roared in his guttural, Neanderthal voice: “I’m not ‘threatening’ you.I PROMISE you I will destroy you!!!”

      I have never in my life been terrorized like that and it is my personal opinion that such behavior is mentally deranged and unquestionably dangerous. My partner heard him bellowing and raging and screaming on the phone and she was shocked and stunned.as am I.

      The many stories and allegations about his abuse and threatening of others in this business would seem to be accurate, at least as far as I am concerned. I have filed a formal police report against him for interstate terrorism and threats.

      Within an hour or so of his phone call, Ted Anderson emailed me notification of 30 day cancellation of our broadcast agreement. Jones has bragged to me and others that he “owns Ted Anderson’s ass”.Ted is a lap dog and did as he was ordered. Jones efforts to censor the news are clear and unquestionable.

      Jones ordered that my live programs be blocked last Tuesday and GCN has been running encores the last four nights without so much as the common courtesy of advising me which program would be aired.

      In sum, it is tragically clear Jones has an agenda which does not include steadfast support of our Constitution, Freedom of Speech and Inquiry, and Freedom of the Press.

      As so many others have claimed over the years, he is too often an opportunistic, self-aggrandizing tyrant and hypocrite who seeks to promote himself over all other issues, while clearly serving the wishes of special interest groups. At this point in time, after doing my program for fifteen years, I find that I must regrettably agree with that assessment. William Cooper, indeed, raised some very serious issues about Jones just before he was shot to death.

      I expect to be back doing Live Programs by Monday night on at least two new networks.

      There will be a formal announcement on the site this weekend.

      Thank you, most kindly, for your concern.
      Jeff

      Editor’s Note: Sorry for wasting your time but couldn’t help myself on this one. Of course, we will continue discussing serious topics tomorrow.

      P.S. There is a difference between Christianity and Churchianity to MR. TRUTH….WAKE UP AMERIKA…THE VATICAN IS TAKING OVER

      TRUTH Reply:

      I never doubted Alex could be against us, this is how the Illuminati operates, but thats not to say you are making the above article up…I have to agree with what you say though about the rothschild, and how the Zionist literally run the political, and the entire USA….Just look at the dollar bill with the star of david having 13 stars in it….

      I know about the corruption of religion, but I am not saying christianity, or any religion for that matter is aware of the corruption within…Freemasonry has been infiltrated by the ILluminati and their Mysterious teachings, and this is primarily why we see corruption in the Religious sects, the Jews are the best and the worst in the same state…We cannot label ALL jews because of the few elites who run the banks and people of all nations(zionist..)

      Yes indeed the vatican is taking over…in fact already has.
      I do have a feeling AJ is a double agent, but nothing is for sure, unless what you say above is accurate and true, but either way I don’t follow alex how most of these sheeps do, I’ve always done my own research. Alex is just a reference to evaluate both sides of the picture…

      BTW MR WILLIAM COOPER was a god send, and he is truly on our side, he exposed the corruption from all angles, and talk in depth about the celestial world and the Illuminati.
      I like Texe Marrs though he understands just a little more….Although given W.Cooper the chance he would have known more also, he died right when this tyrannical takeover was occurring.
      Peace Jeff, I hope everything works out for you, and keep it safe.


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