Investigative reporter Seymour Hersh’s bombshell earlier this week that Vice President Dick Cheney controlled an “executive assassination ring” continues to reverberate throughout Washington, with Nixon aide John Dean going so far as to accuse the former VP of murder if the charges are true.
MSNBC’s Keith Olbermann visited the issue on his show Countdown Thursday night where he discussed the legal implications of Hersh’s allegations with Dean, who was White House legal counsel under President Richard Nixon.
“It’s potentially a war crime,” Dean said of the reported assassination ring. “It’s potentially just outright murder and it’s clearly in violation of the Ford Executive Order.”
Hersh told the students at the University of Minnesota on Tuesday that the assassination squad was “a special wing of our special operations community that is set up independently. In the Bush-Cheney Days, they reported directly to the Cheney, Cheney office. They do not report to the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff or to Mr. Gates, the secretary of defense. They report directly to him. Congress has no oversight of it. It’s an executive assassination ring, essentially.”
“If this is true you have to prosecute this. There is no way around this,” said Olbermann, noting the 1976 executive order of President Gerald Ford which explicitly outlawed the engagement of political employees in political assassination. Cheney was Ford’s chief of staff at the time the order was issued.
“By the time Cheney was back in the West Wing it appears that Cheney had forgotten his own boss’s executive order, or worse, he had decided to ignore it,” Olbermann said.
Dean told Olbermann that “the President’s the only one you can argue who may have the authority to engage in assassinations.
Newsweek editor Howard Fineman shared with Olbermann his own investigation into the veracity of Hersh’s claims. Fineman said his talks Thursday with sources in the intelligence community had revealed that while they are skeptical of the existence of any assassination ring, they had too much respect in Hersh’s reporting to dismiss the allegations outright and that they warranted further study.
However, not everyone is buying the claims made by Hersh. The Weekly Standard’s Bill Roggio writes, “Hersh has made a living of making fantastic claims that don’t quite live up to the hype. Chalk this one up as another Hersh fantasy.”
Claims by the CIA that the Hersh allegations were “utter nonsense,” are not surprising, said Fineman.
“If there is in fact such a thing… and the CIA was kept in the dark about it, the last thing they would want to do right now is to admit it,” Fineman said.
Fineman said he has been told by aides to Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-VT), chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee who has proposed forming an independent ‘Truth Commission’ to investigate abuses of the Bush administration, that not many members of the Senate have signed on to the proposal as of yet.
However, the new allegations by Hersh may be shocking enough to push more senators over to Leahy’s side, Fineman said.
“This could be that thing, depending on how much it pans out,” Fineman said. “One more really serious allegation…I think you’re going to see a lot of senators wanting to join Sen. Leahy’s side on this.”
This video is from MSNBC’s Countdown, broadcast Mar. 12, 2009.
March 14th, 2009 at 7:25 am
Tooth paste? I knew it!
Lupe Reply:
March 14th, 2009 at 11:33 pm
Dick Cheney will be selling “The Cheney Grill” on the W.B in 5 years. SHITS COMING!
Are many world leaders possessed? If I were an Evil spirit I would find the top powers of the world and jump into them myself, can you blame them?
We need a benevolent coup
Americans stop your Wang Chunging, lets all stand up then sit down on the lawns of all the governments of all the world, hundreds of millions of us with signs that say something like “the people want love” or “love” I think this all demonic possession, something very strange and inhuman has crept into our lives, it just does not make sense, like this post.
interesting times to come
chuggerbooger Reply:
March 14th, 2009 at 11:40 pm
I believe AARON RUSSO was given a cancer virus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....annel_page DEMONS DO EXIST
Josymol Reply:
March 15th, 2009 at 2:10 pm
Chinney must be brought to justice along with Bush. Also we all millions of gun owners must organize a nationwide movement to each of us writte a letter to Congress opposing to Gun Control Laws, Proposals and Bans ASAP and set a speciffic day to have them all millions of letters delivered all on the same day directly to Congress. We can change things with a nationwide action like this. We must act now before it is too late. We the people have thhe power to change things and take back our rights. Please Alex Jones, if you are reading this, please promote this on your radio show. Call the masses and ask everyone to writte tio congress and set a day. We must act before it is too late. I just send an email to the NRA asking the to to this. We must take action now and stop just talking about it.
Another thing…How long will my 9mm bullets will last in my magazine inside my gun that I always carry with me? I mean, will the bullets I carry inside the magazine of the gun I carry go bad after a certain period of time? I know that a box of bullets will last years if stored properly, but I wonder about the ones you alway carry inside your gun you carry all the time. Anybody here has good knoweledge about this.
If you notice when you store a case of bullets properly the bullets stay bright and shinny. But when you carry them inside your gun magazine on the gun you carry, them bullets turn darked colored. Those that affects the performance of the bullets? I don’t want to be carrying my gun with 6 months old bullets inside the magazine and find out they do not work correctly in a life or death situation…Any information….Thanks.
birthofcheese Reply:
March 16th, 2009 at 1:44 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....annel_page dire predictions 2009
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....annel_page DEMONS DO EXIST
March 14th, 2009 at 7:55 am
Cheney IS guilty of Murder…911 is one perfect example…The trigger he helped pull which led to many more murders and the murders still continue to this day..All the while America still sleeps and watches FOX Snooze…ZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzz…
March 14th, 2009 at 8:00 am
It’s about time you yanks get out of the box you live in and wake up to what is hapening around you. If any body living in any country has the ability to make change it is the US citizen. There are very few countries that give the general public as much power as the US constitution. It’s about time the people of America use it or all will be lost!
March 14th, 2009 at 8:04 am
I asked a stranger in a Tim Horton
he answered; < no I didn’t know that, don’t really care either.
March 14th, 2009 at 8:22 am
John Dean: Cheney is guilty of ‘murder’ if Hersh claims are true
Do ya think. It would be kind of like getting Al Capone for tax evasion. Come on, the whole war with Iraq and Afghanistan was a huge mass murder orgy. Whatever it takes to get some justice I guess.
March 14th, 2009 at 8:25 am
How about Obama? With all the strikes on Pakistan he ordered he’s directly responsible for murder himself as well.
March 14th, 2009 at 8:26 am
How about Obama? With all the strikes on Pakistan he has directly ordered himself he’s responsible for murder as well.
March 14th, 2009 at 8:32 am
How many hundreds of thousands of human deaths, non combatant men, women and children, does it take to call it murder. This headline is ridiculous. Of course he’s a murderer, a million times over.
March 14th, 2009 at 8:35 am
Cheney is guilty of mass murder! This is true whether or not Hersch might be correct. Cheney belongs in the category into which we’ve placed Mussolini
March 14th, 2009 at 8:48 am
If this is true it is lunacy, total and utter lunacy. Could that Hersh had some information of this crime but not all of it and leaked the ‘info’ to scare up some whistle blowers.
March 14th, 2009 at 9:21 am
Fallujah needs some street sweepers…
March 14th, 2009 at 9:34 am
Just 1 of many crimes from that criminal Chenney.I really beleive he is 1 of the most dangerous poeple in the world.
March 14th, 2009 at 9:37 am
Perhaps the powers-that-be are throwing Cheney to the wolves as a distraction. He was useful to them while he was in office, now they don’t need him. The public wants retribution for the past 8 years, the NWO knows this. They’ll give us a sacrafice to calm the masses and put us back to sleep. If it appears that Obama put Cheney behind bars, people will see him as the ultimate “savior of humanity”.
Misha Reply:
March 15th, 2009 at 10:02 pm
Too true blue, the scapegoat will, in part, cover the crimes STILL being committed and give many a smug, smiling sense of satisfaction that ’something’ is being ‘done’.
March 14th, 2009 at 9:42 am
Who do you think sent Congress and the news media the Anthrax and Involved in 9-11 and its coverup
March 14th, 2009 at 9:47 am
Come on people. This is a no brainier. Bush and Cheney have broke the law, killed millions world wide, and committed treason against the USA.
They NEED to be arrested, prosecuted, and hung in public as a warning to all politician’s.
March 14th, 2009 at 9:48 am
We all know that the crimes that accompany Cheney’s participation in the NWO run much deeper than this assassination ring. I wouldnt be surprised if the man were charged with eating babies in satanic rituals. We know the man is guilty of every sort of conceivable crime on the map. Its just a matter of when these crimes will be properly exposed and until then we can just be content with small stories like these that no one is going to do anything about except for philosophize over in the media.
March 14th, 2009 at 10:33 am
Dick Cheney….pure evil. Human garbage.
March 14th, 2009 at 10:41 am
LOL, Bush and Cheney are above the law and have always been. Expect this to end in a presidential pardon from Obama if it even thinks of going to trial.
March 14th, 2009 at 10:52 am
Lets not forget about the D.C. Madam..
March 14th, 2009 at 11:09 am
The spy shop that brought you the Bush administration’s warrantless wiretapping program wants to expand its power under President Barack Obama, the nation’s top intelligence chief told Congress in a little-noticed intelligence grab.
http://www.cherada.com/articul.....ersecurity
March 14th, 2009 at 11:10 am
Cheney joking about 5 percent approval rating on hunting trip:
Cheney: Come on guys…Whats a little murder among friends, Who Wants To Go HUNTING!
Former Cheney Buddy: I forgot my shotgun I have to get back right away…
Cheney:Hey if your gonna write jokes about me being a murderer, call me a Mass Murderer..(jr) does.
March 14th, 2009 at 11:12 am
SO THATS NEW, THE TRUTH ALWAYS COMES OUT !!
March 14th, 2009 at 11:23 am
Dick Cheney probably thinks he was an untouchable because of his position of power. Unfortunately for him, HE’S NOT. He’s an outlaw according to the US Constitution and a traitor to the American people. When the Revolution comes, which it will, these people are going to be arrested and there will be indictments.
It is the American citizen’s duty to defend the Republic against corrupt and illegitimate Governments. Any law passed by the Government which does not act accordingly with the Constitution and Bill of Rights is NULL AND VOID.
- Ricko
Misha Reply:
March 15th, 2009 at 10:06 pm
I’d venture to say that while everyone is busy pointing the finger at the obvious, the real criminals are the sick puppies who voted for them, that’s where the problem lies. So when the boys in the spotlight go down there will always be reinforcements to take their place.
March 14th, 2009 at 11:24 am
I wonder why the CIA keeps pleading ignorance of assasinations. They are stock-in-trade of REAL statecraft and have been for thousands of years. Also, this movement to hold Bushites accountable AFTER THE FACT is very suspicious. All is not as it seems and all that glitters is not gold. Watch your six!
brown stains Reply:
March 14th, 2009 at 8:04 pm
for real this sound like a dog and pony show to me he comes in sacrifices the old boss claims his thrown for world power it seems like the last book of the bible to
March 14th, 2009 at 11:26 am
Bhutto ?
March 14th, 2009 at 11:26 am
As if Cheney didn’t bring these assassins from home…I just assumed he uses the same guys that the banksters use.
March 14th, 2009 at 11:33 am
I had the honor of meeting Hersh several years ago when he came to the university that I was attending at the time. He spoke to a group of political science students, including me, and I was left with the impression that the man is very trustworthy. As for Cheney having assassins under his wings–I find that totally believable. Anyone with two brain cells that work knows that the CIA specializes in murdering people, and bringing down governments. Heck, we know they had a hand in 9/11! Cheney is pure evil.
March 14th, 2009 at 11:49 am
I think alot of people fed up with jr. wanted to carry on the American Tradition of giving the new prez (same as the old one) the benefit of the doubt the first few days he is in office. However, the agenda to corrupt things far beyond (jr) was apparent from the get go. What we are seeing is higher orders of Satanistas who are selling out everything this country stands for to enable a satantic world cult that is ruled by the few while canabalizing off the masses.
March 14th, 2009 at 11:50 am
Cheney, Bush Jr., Rumsfeld all should be tried for War Crimes, just waiting for someone to start the ball rolling & it appears John Dean has done just that.
Saddam is waiting for you guys!
March 14th, 2009 at 11:53 am
“Investigative reporter Seymour Hersh’s bombshell earlier this week that Vice President Dick Cheney controlled an “executive assassination ring…”
Of course, many of the 9/11 survivors were silenced because of Cheney’s endless need for blood.
March 14th, 2009 at 12:13 pm
test
Norman Reply:
March 14th, 2009 at 2:14 pm
is the posting down for the day?
March 14th, 2009 at 12:18 pm
well….we all knew he was a murdering bastard, but it does surprise me he sat so close to the fire.
March 14th, 2009 at 12:24 pm
Finally!!!!
March 14th, 2009 at 12:33 pm
And nobody will do shit about it because thewhole sold out freemason killers will fall apart.
March 14th, 2009 at 12:34 pm
Erid Holder will take your gun though and the “real” killers will live in masnsions and go
yachting.
March 14th, 2009 at 12:37 pm
If my ass had killed firemen and pilicmen they would beat the hell out of me then torture
and me then if I was lucky kill me. In America certain really rich and powerful people can do this shit and get rich off of it.
March 14th, 2009 at 12:38 pm
I would have water boarded her first after 9/11. Even though i don’t like torture. But 9/11
and those firemen dying I cried so much.
March 14th, 2009 at 12:45 pm
How in the hell did FBI AGENT ONE OF THE ABSOLUTE BEST AND BRIGHTEST AGENTS
end up at the TWINS acouple of days before it fell down. Oh hi here is a really good
job at the Twins after some higher ranking FBI agents gave him a hard time. Oh lets set him
up and kill him OK. Thank you for killing me my “loving’ work mates my friends.Yea
backstabbing murders. did not Jesus get this too. Did not one of hids fiends kill
him or get him killed?
March 14th, 2009 at 12:49 pm
Why woudk would Eric Holder arrest somebody that could bring his own ass down?
Simple Math……
March 14th, 2009 at 12:51 pm
Lets see did Hitler’s Judges and Noble Lawyes arrest Hitler for war crimes? NO
Duh
March 14th, 2009 at 12:55 pm
Hooray! A “Truth Commission”! Problem solved! Go back to sleep.
March 14th, 2009 at 12:57 pm
In the land of ’special judges” only the othe guy is a War Criminal never when you do the
sanme stuff. Case in Point hannity yellin Sadam he tortues but when American do it
its OK. Think about it.
March 14th, 2009 at 12:59 pm
If i slaiughter children I am not a WAR criminal but if you do it you are a War Criminal.
Fiqure that one out and get back to me.
March 14th, 2009 at 1:01 pm
Cheney joking about 5 percent approval rating during a past hunting trip:
Cheney: Come on guys…Whats a little murder among friends, Who Wants To Go HUNTING!
Former Cheney Buddy: I forgot my shotgun I have to get back right away…
Cheney:Hey if your gonna write jokes about me being a murderer, call me a Mass Murderer..(jr) does.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQ-XyQ1zEqA
March 14th, 2009 at 1:03 pm
Wow… What is gong on with these guys? Can somebody please explain how we just found this out?
March 14th, 2009 at 1:03 pm
never mind about FBI agent John P. O’neill I figuered it out A guieda got him fired to leave the FBI and al guieda got him a job at the TWINS beause he had been giving Al Gueida a
hard time and almost found out who the real CIA Al Guieda were. DUh
Misha Reply:
March 15th, 2009 at 10:10 pm
Is there some problem with the keys on your keyboard?
March 14th, 2009 at 1:10 pm
Come and get me NEVER Holder is one of the “club” members and we don’t rat on each other.
March 14th, 2009 at 1:10 pm
Vincent Bugliosi: The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder
March 14th, 2009 at 1:12 pm
i am the supreme King of Justice and cheney dod not do anything. Why he is a great and
Noble ex Vice President of the United States. he would never do one bad thing never.
March 14th, 2009 at 1:13 pm
yea whatever holder says is True. its a movie guys fill in the lines.
March 14th, 2009 at 1:18 pm
my ckient is such a good good man.
March 14th, 2009 at 1:24 pm
Cheney joking about 5 percent approval rating on his most recent hunting trip:
Cheney: Come on guys…Whats a little murder among friends, Who Wants To Go HUNTING!
Former Cheney Buddy: I forgot my shotgun I have to get back right away…
Cheney:Hey if your gonna write jokes about me being a murderer, call me a Mass Murderer..(jr) does.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQ-XyQ1zEqA
March 14th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
I’d go see if it was a public hanging.
March 14th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
You people won’t do crap about it cause Eric Holder is one of my “club” memebers.
March 14th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
That’s O.K.. Everything’s fine now ’cause O’s in da White House.
March 14th, 2009 at 1:46 pm
Cheney is a mass murderer, he even shot his own lawyer in the face with a shotgun
March 14th, 2009 at 2:28 pm
“If this is true you have to prosecute this. There is no way around this,” said Olbermann
Who is “you”, John Yoo? There doesn’t seem to be anyone left in Washington, DC at a leader/advisor level who isn’t a paid or blackmailed lackey with the few exceptions of Dennis Kucinich, Ron Paul, and maybe some others.
I am only wondering how much of this is propaganda to fool those who still care some hope that our federal government is not completely an organized criminal enterprise. These are not “bankers” controlling things, they are murderers, thieves, liars and con men. No one mentions who specifically should be prosecuting Cheney or the long list of associated scum.
The only decent people have left instead of fighting the inevitable smear campaigns, and threats to their families. Even Jesse Ventura decided to forget about it.
I agree with Webster Tarpley that the US President has either been a puppet, or assassinated and replaced with a puppet since 1895. Only he calls the puppet masters “bankers”, I call them organized criminals using banks as a cover.
March 14th, 2009 at 2:56 pm
Of course it is TRUE>> these bastards are all over the map arent they.
March 14th, 2009 at 3:08 pm
Duh, yeah.
March 14th, 2009 at 6:18 pm
Dunno why you are all so surprised. This is the same government that passed out smallpox laced blankets to my people; and lets not forget George Washington stomping on the heads of Iroquois babies to save the Army some bullets; and I could go on and on. What happened to us, is happening to you. PARTY LIKES ITS 1491!!!!
yep Reply:
March 16th, 2009 at 6:12 am
you are right…. karma is a bitch.
March 14th, 2009 at 6:19 pm
This story is no more than Modern day Nazism. Why not, Bush’s Family history dates back to Nazism years under Adolph Hitler! It’s One Big Cover Up after another people! What’s the people going to do, sit back and watch this crap happen and not even speak up about it? So it can happen again under Obama possibly? They Find Cheney involved into this, Then he should get what he deserves certainly! Same goes to Bush….Abusing there Executive Powers to drive and create a Dictatorship. This country belongs to all of us. we can’t allow Our Forefathers who died protecting and spent there years fighting for what this country is made o! That’s Letting them down! I sure as hell don’t want to allow that. I respected my father who Fought in WW II and he was Damn Proud of it. Also, a Brother-in-law who fought in Vietnam. Neither one of them spoke much less they had a View drinks to relax themselves over the things they seen and went through. Unfortunetley, my dad is gone and isn’t seeing anymore whats going on in this country. My Brother-in-law even contacting “Parkingsens Decease” knowing it was from Them spraying over in Nam, with ancient Orange”,never tried to sue the Government because he was too proud to ever think of it! But, to have a Vice President at the time, who abused his authority to knowingly Murder such people because he felt he was doing right, but yet without presidential knowledge, or so they say, then he should be Held for High Treason, Again! This country is in dire Need for PEOPLE to voice there opinions. Ringing Washington’s or even your State Representatives Phones off the hook, might get the message across we are NOT going to stand by and support such handlings in this country NO MORE! That Dick Cheney abused His Executive power, and should be held for war Crimes. IF Bush is found to been a part, then he, also, should stand trial also! We Owe Justice to be upheld, since our Veterans in times before, we need to stand up and support them by standing United on this matter. We need to be the voice for those who sacrificed there lives for this country, For the truth and Honor we so desparetley Need again in this country as a whole, that people such as Dick Cheney took and abused and rubbed those Veterans of wars past, and our military Men and women who fought in this Iraq war, today, and rubber there faced in His disrespect for life.
No justice Reply:
March 15th, 2009 at 1:49 am
Totally agree but that is why they are always bringing new people from foriegn countries
and set them up in big jibs. They have no sense of ancestor connection. Their for its easy to just be assholes. They really never have cared about the Vet really ever. JOHN Paul JONES the father of the American Navy died in like poverty in France. use and digard.
The top has no HONOR just worships money thats all. Money is the real GOD of America.
Honor and Duty is for other people not the ELITE.
March 14th, 2009 at 7:03 pm
The zillion Dollar questions are:
1) How was Saddam Hossain any more worst than Dick ?
2) If there is no materail difference, then why Dick should not face the same fate as Saddam?
March 14th, 2009 at 7:21 pm
im thinking satan is very hard at work all these criminal leaders and no punishment , i mean like made off . the guy is 80 he stole billions , where is it , no one else goes to jail or prision satan is hard at work i wonder whats between me and the center of the earth or in the center of the earth ?
Observer Reply:
March 15th, 2009 at 1:26 am
I agree, there is some sort of evil protecting this horrible psychopathic Cheney and all others like him.
March 14th, 2009 at 7:41 pm
hmmmmmmmmmm
March 14th, 2009 at 7:42 pm
how come i can post here and im baned from the forums
March 14th, 2009 at 7:44 pm
when i leave and come back poof my post dissapear
Observer Reply:
March 15th, 2009 at 1:27 am
They appear later. It just takes time. Or post with a new user name and a fake email.
March 14th, 2009 at 7:45 pm
is their a line or am i missing something about free speech
March 14th, 2009 at 7:51 pm
let me say one more important fact that will poof dissapear , we need accouantability with our criminal leaders they cant account for where the money goes we need to spy on them like they spy on us we know nothing about them our criminal leaders and their criminal friend bank accounts they now all about ours that aint gettin it . the awaening of the sleeping giant
March 14th, 2009 at 7:52 pm
ok im callin out the mother that keeps removing my post the line has been drawen
Observer Reply:
March 15th, 2009 at 1:28 am
This is what I did. I made up a fake user name (Observer) and then used a fake email address. It also takes time for the posts to show up again, I don’t know why.
March 14th, 2009 at 8:24 pm
Cheney was good in the beginning but just went a little too far.
March 15th, 2009 at 3:19 am
Keith Olberman is a moron.
andrew Reply:
March 15th, 2009 at 6:52 pm
dick!
March 15th, 2009 at 8:49 am
And if you think Obama is really pulling any strings think again. He’s a puppet who is having his strings pulled. In his first month in office he has already broken just about all of his promises to the people of America, bc he is just a puppet.
The country is really run by the Bilderberg Group and it’s select members who control all the money and markets.
If you conspiracist types want a real conspiracy, why don’t you look at Alex Jones: The Obama Deception.
March 15th, 2009 at 12:35 pm
Look at this video about a Jewish woman talking about sacrificing children on Oprah Winfry!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ah4oe5CSDQI
A brave woman and a tragic story!
March 15th, 2009 at 2:15 pm
Chinney must be brought to justice along with Bush. Chuck Norris should get his Texas Ranger Badge on and go kick some ass in the Whitehouse…lol. No, Seriously!
Also we all millions of gun owners must organize a nationwide movement to each of us writte a letter to Congress opposing to Gun Control Laws, Proposals and Bans ASAP and set a speciffic day to have them all millions of letters delivered all on the same day directly to Congress. We can change things with a nationwide action like this. We must act now before it is too late. We the people have thhe power to change things and take back our rights. Please Alex Jones, if you are reading this, please promote this on your radio show. Call the masses and ask everyone to writte tio congress and set a day. We must act before it is too late. I just send an email to the NRA asking the to to this. We must take action now and stop just talking about it.
Another thing…How long will my 9mm bullets will last in my magazine inside my gun that I always carry with me? I mean, will the bullets I carry inside the magazine of the gun I carry go bad after a certain period of time? I know that a box of bullets will last years if stored properly, but I wonder about the ones you alway carry inside your gun you carry all the time. Anybody here has good knoweledge about this.
If you notice when you store a case of bullets properly the bullets stay bright and shinny. But when you carry them inside your gun magazine on the gun you carry, them bullets turn darked colored. Those that affects the performance of the bullets? I don’t want to be carrying my gun with 6 months old bullets inside the magazine and find out they do not work correctly in a life or death situation…Any information….Thanks.
March 15th, 2009 at 9:32 pm
check out FEMA camp locations under camps at
http://www.libertywheel.com