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Kremlin sends nuclear cruiser to Caribbean for first manoeuvres on U.S. doorstep since Cold War
UK Daily Mail
Tuesday, Sept 9, 2008
Russia is planning to deploy an armed nuclear-powered warship on America’s doorstep for the first time since the Cold War.
In a move that evokes memories of the Cuban Missile Crisis in 1962, Moscow is dispatching a number of ships to the Caribbean for joint naval manoeuvres with Venezuela.
Russian officials denied the mission was linked to a stand-off in the Black Sea, where the U.S. has sent warships to deliver aid to the former Soviet nation of Georgia.
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Russia has criticised the U.S for the deployment of a command ship and two other naval vessels to Georgia’s southern border in a show of support for President Mikheil Saakashvili over the conflict with Russia.
Russian President Dmitry Medvedev asked on Saturday how Washington would feel ‘if we now dispatched humanitarian assistance to the Caribbean… using our navy’.
But the Kremlin says the Caribbean exercise has been planned for a year.
‘We are talking about a planned event not linked with current political circumstances and not in any way connected to events in Georgia,’ Russian Foreign Ministry spokesman Andrei Nesterenko told a news briefing yesterday.
The exercises ‘will in no way be directed against the interests of a third country’, he added.
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September 9th, 2008 at 4:30 am
Lets see how the “politicians” of the USA like a little of their own medicine at their front door
September 9th, 2008 at 5:21 am
I think there’s a little too much fluff in the phrase “War Games”..
September 9th, 2008 at 6:16 am
Mr Prime Minister Putin sir, nowis the time for first strike, just please don’t hit Texas… Thanks your friend Mike
September 9th, 2008 at 6:17 am
P.S. If you could just take D.C. out that would be great…..Thanks again sir.
September 9th, 2008 at 6:19 am
P.S.S. Sorry one more thing, and if you could take out a lil ranch near Waco that would be wonderful. As a Texan we really dont want a Bush to get stuck here…………Thanks again sir
September 9th, 2008 at 6:25 am
And please send an asshole-seeking missle to Dick Cheney’s house.
September 9th, 2008 at 6:37 am
everytime thers a war game going on somehow theres some sort of attack.
September 9th, 2008 at 7:49 am
To Michael Melton and others,
Putin is just as bad as homeboy assholes here, so
I wouldn’t be too happy about their presence in the vicinity
of the U.S., if I were you.
Dicks in the Bushes should be restrained by us, not by
Russians, never forget that.
September 9th, 2008 at 8:05 am
Yeah, when they finally nuke us the effort will be titled: “Operation Amerikan Freedom.”
September 9th, 2008 at 8:10 am
…btw
Peter the Great (the CGN (nuclear powered cruiser) that they’re sending) is a NASTY ship. “dangerous on paper” is a bit of an understatement. The Kirov class to which it belongs was what scared the US into modernizing the Iowa class battleships. It is the most powerful surface-to-surface combatant in the world short of an Iowa.
That said, I want to know if it has any escorts and how impressive they are. There’s no point being able to hit hard if you can’t survive it when you target pokes back. And the US has a HUGE tech advantage. It is dubious if any surface group the Russians could reasonably assemble could prevent it from being sunk by an American group…presuming the american group did not have an aircraft carrier.
If the American group had an aircraft carrier, the whole Russian flotilla would be dead ducks. Unless the Cubans are letting the Russians base some impressive ground based air support to prevent this, the voyage of Peter the Great is clearly a purely rhetorical move. I would say that they sent this ship to be sure that if the Americans do freak and do something crazy at least a ship or two nearby should die. And to remind the Americans while the Russian navy is not strong enough to beat the American navy in a straight, stand up fight it is tough enough to rob the US of the level of nigh-certainty that they almost pathologically crave in their major military operations.
US Military doctrine assumes they should win with light losses in any conventional warfare oriented situation. Given how the US armed forces have pledged to put the long arm of American might smashing down on ANYONE who messes with them, showing tangibly there are limits…and yet, even in the naval arena, where they US has not suffered any significant losses the last 30 years , they are being reminded they can’t count on everything going to plan either. (The Stark and the Cole being pretty light losses for a navy of the size of the US that puts in so many miles on intimidation patrols…)
Let’s hope the US General Staff takes the right conclusion from this and doesn’t go crazy and say “well, things can only get worse, time to start WW III”
September 9th, 2008 at 8:21 am
This is a war between the global elite criminals and sovereign countries who will not bow to them. Besides the elite’s warped, demented goal of world-wide depopulation of the human race, it is unfortunate the the rest of us get caught in the middle and, as almost always is the case, are the ones who stand to lose and suffer. May God be with us.
September 9th, 2008 at 8:57 am
“Dicks in the Bushes should be restrained by us, not by
Russians, never forget that”…….stopper
haha.
I am from the Republic of Trinidad & Tobago, this island starts the Caribbean chain going right through to Jamaica, and it is the bridge to South America….Our west coast is 7 miles from Venezuela’s east coast.. hmmmm..we have oil, lot’s and lot’s of it.
In the second world war both England and America had bases in Trindad.
America have big interests in Trini …as we have gas, oil, methanol,urea, fertilizer, steel, cement and much more.
I wish they would just leave our tiny independent countries out of this….damit.
September 9th, 2008 at 10:11 am
This sounds like a new cold war to me. GREAT! Just what we need. Thanks Bush!
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September 9th, 2008 at 10:47 am
Zechariah 14:13
And it shall come to pass in that day, that a great tumult from the Lord shall be among them; and they shall lay hold every one on the hand of his neighbor, and his hand shall rise up against the hand of his neighbor.
September 9th, 2008 at 11:19 am
all under Bush lets not forget
September 9th, 2008 at 11:44 am
Looks like we slipped into the twilight zone and went back in time to 1962, where we’ll be facing off with Russia again, like the “bay of pigs”
But this time things are different. As some of you known we don’t have the same exact mindset as we did back then, some things are similar, but in many ways we as a people are far worse off.
Civil rights and technology has dramatically improved, but the rejection of God and the complete mind numbing and brain washing from drugs and propoganda is increaded.
Here is a glimpse into 1962
http://www.gift-fundprogram.or.....4.htm#1962
September 9th, 2008 at 12:06 pm
cuba has been hit by how many hurricanes? 4? 5? is there anything left on that island someone should lend a little help. or maybe russia is doing what our gutless brainwashed asses should have done 100 fucking years ago – smash the nwo! just remember russia educated articulate americans hate these devil worshiping babys blood drinking bastards worse than you do.
September 9th, 2008 at 12:34 pm
El Rukin, yes, yes, yes
While you read this try to magine what’s happening in Georgia, Russia and the Ukrain right now with Cheny runing around
Daniel 11:28-33 Then shall he return into his land with great riches; and his heart shall be against the holy covenant; and he shall do exploits, and return to his own land.
:29 At the time appointed he shall return, and come toward the south; but it shall not be as the former, or as the latter.
:30 For the ships of Chittim shall come against him: therefore he shall be grieved, and return, and have indignation against the holy covenant: so shall he do; he shall even return, and have intelligence with them that forsake the holy covenant.
:31 And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.
Da 11:32 And such as do wickedly against the covenant shall he corrupt by flatteries: but the people that do know their God shall be strong, and do exploits.
:33 And they that understand among the people shall instruct many: yet they shall fall by the sword, and by flame, by captivity, and by spoil, many days.
September 9th, 2008 at 12:41 pm
it is not known what the future holds,but the future is certain.
the path has been trod before and it will be trod once again.
the trump is about to be sounded. all points to a comeing tribulation far greater than ww-2 or the great depression. the mistakes of greed are constant and the falling down of the innocent is assured under these circumstances.
rasputin
September 9th, 2008 at 1:40 pm
Only God knows the future, but we are allowed to understand many things, such as the laws of nature, physics, mathematics, etc. another words we know if people have nothing to eat or drink they will die. And we understand people STRUNG OUT ON HARD DRUGS need their fix.
The new world order people are like intense meh addicts that need their fix otherwise they go through withdrawl symptoms. They need their money, greed, power and murder fix just like a regular serial murderer needs to rape and kill people to satisfy their lusts, the regiem that runs the US government and other governments likewise need to satisfy their lust for power and murder, otherwise they go through withdrawl symptoms.
This is nothing new, as the Catholic church used to torure people who refused to bow down and worship the pope as a god of the earth, remember the crusades?
Some of the people in this land and others are like mad dogs that have tasted blood and killed people, they can’t quit until God changes them, as they are like rabbit dogs, foaming at the mouth.
Try to talk logic with them and it’s thrown out the window. Jesus said “Shake the dust off your feet” as there seems to be a time when trying to discuss logic, the laws of physics, truth and morality with some of these people are like banging your head against the wall. It’s like trying to explain to Johnnie Cocrain, (when he was alive) that OJ Simpson was guilty. Johnny would never give it up.
The supposed christians are getting worse and worse, although maybe there are some that are not visible that may be waking up, but the ones used as phot-props on TV shows and evangelical circusses are getting worse, chanting murder and blasphemy in the name of their God.
They say Jesus, and God and the bible, but their hearts are FAR FROM HIM, why do I say this with such confidence? “You will know them by their fruits” And just look at their fruits, they support lying and murder and deception, (that is not of God, that is not in accordance with Jesus command)
No wonder atheists hate the words I speak when I quote the scripture, no wonder they hate anything to do with the bible, as the very name conjurs up images of the KKK, the crusades, torture and every other abomination under the sun.
I must confess I come here in defense of the bible saying it is true and wonderful, but that wolves have twisted the true essence of the meaning of the words in order to confuse people, rob the sheep and justify murder and all their other crimes.
God is love and love is God, and to love thy neighbor as thyself is the fulfillment of all the laws and the prophets. All other scriptures support that scripture, but if anyone says other scriptures contradict that and justify hating and murdering then I can say in all honesty they are lying and have no true knowledge of what the bible is really saying, because in truth the command is that we love one another, and not murder, lie and kill one another
September 9th, 2008 at 5:11 pm
Brianyn, I’m sorry, but reading your analysis of American ‘naval superiority’ and then subsequent comment “even in the naval arena, where they US has not suffered any significant losses the last 30 years…” just mkes me laugh. I say this respectfully. Do not be offended.
If the US navy has such big biceps, triceps, quadracepts, and testicles, why are they always picking fights with ‘little girls’, i.e. countries with relatively no military might? They haven’t sustained losses in the last thirty years?? Who have they fought in the last thirty years that were worthy opponents? Iraqi air command? Iranian speedboats? Come on.
Come to think of it, which war has the US fought since WW2 and won? Vietnam? The U.S. got it’s ass kicked. Korea? The U.S. got it’s ass kicked? Iraq 1? (oh yeah, the US won that one – way to get those big, bad Iraqis) Afghanastan? Who knows, after 7 years they’re still there? Iraq 2? Ditto. Georgia? Who knows. They’re too chicken shit to admit being part of it.
Sorry, but your admiration of US military power fails to sway me. And, again, I say this not to offend you. I have lived long enough to know that you’re only as tough as the opponents you fight, not by how much money your throw at steroids.
September 9th, 2008 at 8:48 pm
People of this planet, get ready. I have this feeling that these assholes of the New World Order really wants to test Russia’s and provoke a nuclear WW3 before this year is out. I hope Russia is start enough not fall into the New World Order trap. God help us all.
September 10th, 2008 at 3:53 am
The U.S. Navy is documented to have lost many wargames against smaller and less-equipped navies. The great equalizer in every case was submarines. I was in the U.S. submarine service during the Cold War and my boat had no trouble scoring victories against large surface task forces, even with ASW destroyer screens! Foreign submarines are no joke and nothing to be toyed with, either. As far as I know, Venezuela doesn’t have any submarines but that may change. **These naval wargames may be Russia trying to sell some diesel-electric boats to Chavez.** I’d like to see Hugo Chavez support his neighbor, Brazil, by purchasing some of their Tikuna-class subs, which is an improved German Type-209 boat.