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		<title>By: bootroll</title>
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		<dc:creator>bootroll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 16:14:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I bet the EU bureaucrats were sitting in a grand room under huge, bright chandaliers when they signed up to this directive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bet the EU bureaucrats were sitting in a grand room under huge, bright chandaliers when they signed up to this directive.</p>
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		<title>By: pjskptc</title>
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		<dc:creator>pjskptc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 22:08:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Canada in science class 70s, the teachers had us pass around mercury and asbestos.  I told my mother this and she FREAKED.  We were just kids and didnt know any better but the teachers should have known better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Canada in science class 70s, the teachers had us pass around mercury and asbestos.  I told my mother this and she FREAKED.  We were just kids and didnt know any better but the teachers should have known better.</p>
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		<title>By: Planning4aCrash</title>
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		<dc:creator>Planning4aCrash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 21:21:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>blindboy, its the same with the double glazing. Freaks go out and buy plastic uPVC double glazing with massive embedded energy to save energy. Its total Orwellian doublethink.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>blindboy, its the same with the double glazing. Freaks go out and buy plastic uPVC double glazing with massive embedded energy to save energy. Its total Orwellian doublethink.</p>
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		<title>By: Planning4aCrash</title>
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		<dc:creator>Planning4aCrash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 21:20:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Britain, they used to put out murcury ON THE TABLE in science classes and let kids push balls of murcury round with their fingers, presumably to get us acclimatised to mercury poisoning? A bit of predictive programming and eugenics to throw? I got sent out of the class for refusing the breathe whilst it was there. My idiot classmates did nothing, but some told me years later that I did the right thing. No shit sherlock.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Britain, they used to put out murcury ON THE TABLE in science classes and let kids push balls of murcury round with their fingers, presumably to get us acclimatised to mercury poisoning? A bit of predictive programming and eugenics to throw? I got sent out of the class for refusing the breathe whilst it was there. My idiot classmates did nothing, but some told me years later that I did the right thing. No shit sherlock.</p>
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		<title>By: Planning4aCrash</title>
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		<dc:creator>Planning4aCrash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 21:08:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a great clip from Congress on the implications of government forcing us to use mercury filled CFL lightbulbs. Just goes to show the falacy of the central planning of lightbulbs! So there goes the joke, how many governments does it take to screw in a murcury filled lightbulb? Two, China to provide cover up the dirty industrial practices required to make it profitable and the Federal Government to create the propaganda to sell it to the public.

http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/343.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a great clip from Congress on the implications of government forcing us to use mercury filled CFL lightbulbs. Just goes to show the falacy of the central planning of lightbulbs! So there goes the joke, how many governments does it take to screw in a murcury filled lightbulb? Two, China to provide cover up the dirty industrial practices required to make it profitable and the Federal Government to create the propaganda to sell it to the public.</p>
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		<title>By: blindboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>blindboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 20:37:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The energy it takes to manufacture this hybrid light bulb far exceeds any &#039;savings&#039; realized over the relatively short life span of these less-than-fabulous devices. It&#039;s all bullshit. Just more bullshit from the Al Bore crowd. England bought into it before the West, but it will happen here eventually.

Crack one open, America (eco-bulb) and take a big whiff. That&#039;s the plan. Poison the planet. Hey! New website! Poison Planet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The energy it takes to manufacture this hybrid light bulb far exceeds any &#8217;savings&#8217; realized over the relatively short life span of these less-than-fabulous devices. It&#8217;s all bullshit. Just more bullshit from the Al Bore crowd. England bought into it before the West, but it will happen here eventually.</p>
<p>Crack one open, America (eco-bulb) and take a big whiff. That&#8217;s the plan. Poison the planet. Hey! New website! Poison Planet.</p>
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		<title>By: pissed in canada</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 19:04:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if the bulb shatters, whatever you do, don&#039;t breath in the gas, it&#039;s highly toxic.  As for the light bandwith or frequency modulation, i have not researched that enough, but if those are toxic that would also mean that tube fluorescents emit the same types of radiation. 

and 8-p is right about the LED coment, if they had any concern for our health, they would use DC electicity as it emits no magnetic field as alternating current does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if the bulb shatters, whatever you do, don&#8217;t breath in the gas, it&#8217;s highly toxic.  As for the light bandwith or frequency modulation, i have not researched that enough, but if those are toxic that would also mean that tube fluorescents emit the same types of radiation. </p>
<p>and 8-p is right about the LED coment, if they had any concern for our health, they would use DC electicity as it emits no magnetic field as alternating current does.</p>
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		<title>By: 8-P</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 18:11:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1 - energy saving bulbs shine incomplete light spectrum, as opposed to the Edisons type, which is more fire-like 2 - energy saving bulbs need 1 specific voltage amperage ac-dc electricity, so you cannot easily run them from car batteries etc. 3 - if they had really wanted to save power, they would join the LED business...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1 &#8211; energy saving bulbs shine incomplete light spectrum, as opposed to the Edisons type, which is more fire-like 2 &#8211; energy saving bulbs need 1 specific voltage amperage ac-dc electricity, so you cannot easily run them from car batteries etc. 3 &#8211; if they had really wanted to save power, they would join the LED business&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: neon</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 17:36:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ron in CT

Thanks for the heads up, here is some more info regarding disposal of these &#039;green&#039; alternatives.

My local newspaper published an editorial on how wonderful these CFL &#039;s are. To their credit, when i supplied them with the epa.gov cleanup procedure, they did publish it... so people, please let your local media know about the EPA.gov cleanup procedure.

The Energy Independence and Security Act of 2007 was signed into law in December, phasing out the use of traditional, incandescent light bulbs in favor of CFLs beginning in 2012 and culminating in a ban on incandescent bulbs in 2014.

http://www.epa.gov/mercury/spills/

&quot;Compact fluorescent lights (CFLs) are lighting more homes than ever before, and EPA is encouraging Americans to use and recycle them safely. Carefully recycling CFLs prevents the release of mercury into the environment and allows for the reuse of glass, metals and other materials that make up fluorescent lights.&quot;

 Before Clean-up: Air Out the Room

    * Have people and pets leave the room, and don&#039;t let anyone walk through the breakage area on their way out.
    * Open a window and leave the room for 15 minutes or more.
    * Shut off the central forced-air heating/air conditioning system, if you have one.

Clean-Up Steps for Hard Surfaces

    * Carefully scoop up glass pieces and powder using stiff paper or cardboard and place them in a glass jar with metal lid (such as a canning jar) or in a sealed plastic bag.
    * Use sticky tape, such as duct tape, to pick up any remaining small glass fragments and powder.
    * Wipe the area clean with damp paper towels or disposable wet wipes. Place towels in the glass jar or plastic bag.
    * Do not use a vacuum or broom to clean up the broken bulb on hard surfaces.

Clean-up Steps for Carpeting or Rug

    * Carefully pick up glass fragments and place them in a glass jar with metal lid (such as a canning jar) or in a sealed plastic bag.
    * Use sticky tape, such as duct tape, to pick up any remaining small glass fragments and powder.
    * If vacuuming is needed after all visible materials are removed, vacuum the area where the bulb was broken.
    * Remove the vacuum bag (or empty and wipe the canister), and put the bag or vacuum debris in a sealed plastic bag.

Clean-up Steps for Clothing, Bedding and Other Soft Materials

    * If clothing or bedding materials come in direct contact with broken glass or mercury-containing powder from inside the bulb that may stick to the fabric, the clothing or bedding should be thrown away. Do not wash such clothing or bedding because mercury fragments in the clothing may contaminate the machine and/or pollute sewage.
    * You can, however, wash clothing or other materials that have been exposed to the mercury vapor from a broken CFL, such as the clothing you are wearing when you cleaned up the broken CFL, as long as that clothing has not come into direct contact with the materials from the broken bulb.
    * If shoes come into direct contact with broken glass or mercury-containing powder from the bulb, wipe them off with damp paper towels or disposable wet wipes. Place the towels or wipes in a glass jar or plastic bag for disposal.

Disposal of Clean-up Materials

    * Immediately place all clean-up materials outdoors in a trash container or protected area for the next normal trash pickup.
    * Wash your hands after disposing of the jars or plastic bags containing clean-up materials.
    * Check with your local or state government about disposal requirements in your specific area. Some states do not allow such trash disposal. Instead, they require that broken and unbroken mercury-containing bulbs be taken to a local recycling center.

Future Cleaning of Carpeting or Rug: Air Out the Room During and After Vacuuming

    * The next several times you vacuum, shut off the central forced-air heating/air conditioning system and open a window before vacuuming.
    * Keep the central heating/air conditioning system shut off and the window open for at least 15 minutes after vacuuming is completed. &quot;

GREEN IS RED.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ron in CT</p>
<p>Thanks for the heads up, here is some more info regarding disposal of these &#8216;green&#8217; alternatives.</p>
<p>My local newspaper published an editorial on how wonderful these CFL &#8217;s are. To their credit, when i supplied them with the epa.gov cleanup procedure, they did publish it&#8230; so people, please let your local media know about the EPA.gov cleanup procedure.</p>
<p>The Energy Independence and Security Act of 2007 was signed into law in December, phasing out the use of traditional, incandescent light bulbs in favor of CFLs beginning in 2012 and culminating in a ban on incandescent bulbs in 2014.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.epa.gov/mercury/spills/" rel="nofollow">http://www.epa.gov/mercury/spills/</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Compact fluorescent lights (CFLs) are lighting more homes than ever before, and EPA is encouraging Americans to use and recycle them safely. Carefully recycling CFLs prevents the release of mercury into the environment and allows for the reuse of glass, metals and other materials that make up fluorescent lights.&#8221;</p>
<p> Before Clean-up: Air Out the Room</p>
<p>    * Have people and pets leave the room, and don&#8217;t let anyone walk through the breakage area on their way out.<br />
    * Open a window and leave the room for 15 minutes or more.<br />
    * Shut off the central forced-air heating/air conditioning system, if you have one.</p>
<p>Clean-Up Steps for Hard Surfaces</p>
<p>    * Carefully scoop up glass pieces and powder using stiff paper or cardboard and place them in a glass jar with metal lid (such as a canning jar) or in a sealed plastic bag.<br />
    * Use sticky tape, such as duct tape, to pick up any remaining small glass fragments and powder.<br />
    * Wipe the area clean with damp paper towels or disposable wet wipes. Place towels in the glass jar or plastic bag.<br />
    * Do not use a vacuum or broom to clean up the broken bulb on hard surfaces.</p>
<p>Clean-up Steps for Carpeting or Rug</p>
<p>    * Carefully pick up glass fragments and place them in a glass jar with metal lid (such as a canning jar) or in a sealed plastic bag.<br />
    * Use sticky tape, such as duct tape, to pick up any remaining small glass fragments and powder.<br />
    * If vacuuming is needed after all visible materials are removed, vacuum the area where the bulb was broken.<br />
    * Remove the vacuum bag (or empty and wipe the canister), and put the bag or vacuum debris in a sealed plastic bag.</p>
<p>Clean-up Steps for Clothing, Bedding and Other Soft Materials</p>
<p>    * If clothing or bedding materials come in direct contact with broken glass or mercury-containing powder from inside the bulb that may stick to the fabric, the clothing or bedding should be thrown away. Do not wash such clothing or bedding because mercury fragments in the clothing may contaminate the machine and/or pollute sewage.<br />
    * You can, however, wash clothing or other materials that have been exposed to the mercury vapor from a broken CFL, such as the clothing you are wearing when you cleaned up the broken CFL, as long as that clothing has not come into direct contact with the materials from the broken bulb.<br />
    * If shoes come into direct contact with broken glass or mercury-containing powder from the bulb, wipe them off with damp paper towels or disposable wet wipes. Place the towels or wipes in a glass jar or plastic bag for disposal.</p>
<p>Disposal of Clean-up Materials</p>
<p>    * Immediately place all clean-up materials outdoors in a trash container or protected area for the next normal trash pickup.<br />
    * Wash your hands after disposing of the jars or plastic bags containing clean-up materials.<br />
    * Check with your local or state government about disposal requirements in your specific area. Some states do not allow such trash disposal. Instead, they require that broken and unbroken mercury-containing bulbs be taken to a local recycling center.</p>
<p>Future Cleaning of Carpeting or Rug: Air Out the Room During and After Vacuuming</p>
<p>    * The next several times you vacuum, shut off the central forced-air heating/air conditioning system and open a window before vacuuming.<br />
    * Keep the central heating/air conditioning system shut off and the window open for at least 15 minutes after vacuuming is completed. &#8221;</p>
<p>GREEN IS RED.</p>
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		<title>By: robbo</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 16:55:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>open the base of one of these bulbs, inside you will find a circuit board , possibly for listening or more , a bulb does not need this much circuitry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>open the base of one of these bulbs, inside you will find a circuit board , possibly for listening or more , a bulb does not need this much circuitry.</p>
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