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Man Detained As Terror Suspect For Photographing Police Car
Chairman of park society wanted to document police misconduct, but was told he had breached Section 44 of the Terrorism Act
Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet.com
Thursday, April 16, 2009
Despite police claiming that an ambiguous section of the UK Counter Terrorism Act of 2008 would not outlaw taking photographs or film of police, a man was detained as a terror suspect this week simply for taking a photograph of a police car in order to document police misconduct.
62-year-old Malcolm Sleath, who is chairman of his local park society, saw a police car driving erratically down a North London park footpath, despite the fact that by law police are supposed to investigate on foot in such circumstances.
He began filming the police car to document the misconduct so that he could later present it to the chief sergeant.
Sleath was subsequently approached by the two officers in the car and was told he was being detained because he had breached Section 44 of the Terrorism Act.
“(The officer) was clearly embarrassed to be photographed where he shouldn’t have been and wanted to intimidate me,” said Sleath.
Section 44 previously only allowed police officers to stop and search somebody on “reasonable grounds” but that has now been changed and is no longer necessary, leading to an explosion in frivolous stop and search incidents. 44% of complaints made about stop and search allege assault by police officers.
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However, the nature of Sleath’s detainment raises questions about whether police were actually enforcing 58A of the 2000 Terrorism Act, a passage replicated in the 2008 Counter Terrorism Act.
As we have previously highlighted, this section contains ambiguous language which suggests that merely filming or photographing police officers is an act of terrorism. When journalist organizations expressed fears that this law could effectively outlaw a huge part of their profession, they were told by PC Alan Cousins of the Metropolitan Police Film Unit that the law would not impede them.
Cousins stated that taking photos of police officers “would not be caught by this offence,” but added that it could be in “exceptional circumstances”.
In London, filming anything is treated as a sign of potential terrorism. We were filming floral tributes left at the entrance to Stockwell tube station where Jean Charles De Menezes was brutally gunned down by police in July 2005. We were approached by a police officer and subsequently entered into the terror database – ostensibly for filming flowers without permission from the government.
Britain has around 4.2 million CCTV cameras – one for every fourteen people – and Big Brother has carte blanche to watch us 24/7 – but woe betide we actually turn the camera back on the authorities, because that makes us a potential terrorist.
Indeed, a recent London Metropolitan Police poster campaign directly implied that filming a CCTV camera was a probable act of terrorism and encouraged people to report anyone for doing so.
The video below shows UK police threatening a man with reprisals for filming them, claiming that it is an offence to record the police. The cops phone the police station and are told that there is no law that forbids the public from filming them. However, this was two years ago, before the recent amendment to the law was passed.
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April 16th, 2009 at 5:45 am
hah! brilliant! im gonna post this up on facebook!
April 16th, 2009 at 5:58 am
The Police are paranoid from guilt of corruption yes?
The picture of the “POLICE CAR” is interesting
with the masonic checkerboard graphics but a LEXUS?
In the USA that is very expensive.
Social Viability Reply:
April 16th, 2009 at 10:42 am
Paranoid from guilt of corruption?
I think that would describe the politicians as well as it would describe the police in this article.
The politicians and the central bankers that direct them are becoming more and more paranoid all the time. And I think you’ve hit the nail on the head: there’s a direct correlation between their corruption and paranoia.
Arm and train the citizens. Then we won’t even need the police. Police are a tool of the politicians – the true function of the police is to enforce behavior that the state approves of.
Don’t fight the system:
Replace it
http://socialviability.com/
April 16th, 2009 at 5:58 am
our government are fat rich greedy lazy worthless overpaid pigs
templi beholder Reply:
April 16th, 2009 at 7:07 am
agree, but that is demeaning to cute exploited pigs
jash Reply:
April 16th, 2009 at 9:15 am
pigs comes from The Animal Farm by George Orwell methinks. 4 legs good 2 legs bad, later subverted to BETTER!
April 16th, 2009 at 5:58 am
i am getting to them listen guys they want a why to f--- up the web and close it down they are absolutely up to something real bad. First the guns now the web they are really getting scarred of the people. they don’t want to hand remember that. they are real worried they are pissing on the pants its running down their legs they know we know and they are scarred
real scarred. i can feel it. f---ing Old Butch Dike Operation broken Dill Doe thats for you asshole head of homeland security joke woman.
Misha Reply:
April 16th, 2009 at 8:26 am
I take it English isn’t your 1st language, then.
mickey Reply:
April 16th, 2009 at 9:17 am
The reality of the situation is that the federal government of the united states and the british parliment have been in leagues with eachother for a very long time. These 2 nations have devised a sceme to completley control all aspects of human life on this planet, in essense the right to do as they please whenever they please to whoever they please. They are the bankers and the elite and have obtained freedom only for themselves. The idea of freedom in the united states is dead and they are labeling everyone who does not agree with them as “terriost”. They are very afraid of the outcome when all hell breaks loose in both nations america and britton. America will burn, she has too, and every major city in the uintied states will eventually be a nucular waste land. America under estimates the enemies she has made, as though she is the only nation of sovernty. She braggs on herself and her leaders think that technology and information will save them from a destructive fate. The comment made by the leader of homeland security that ex veterans are prone to right wing military groups is the absolute truth, as if this was a bad thing. They are loosing the information war and they know it!! There time is coming!! Soon and very Soon!! The End!!
April 16th, 2009 at 6:01 am
It is the duty of every citizen to photograph the police to fight against brutality and murder – as proven necessary by the recent murder at the G20 of an innocent newspaper saleman.
templi beholder Reply:
April 16th, 2009 at 7:13 am
it is fun too
April 16th, 2009 at 6:16 am
I keep hearing and readign you lot moan but what are you doing about ? nothing, qhat is it going to take before you take action? ID Card? microchipped, when your inside a camp (too late then) come on! the more we let them do what they want -the more they will do and they are happy for us just to moan, it has to stop somewhere, no point in moaning if you’re not going to do jack
BDowd Reply:
April 16th, 2009 at 9:42 am
You’re exactly right. I keep telling people the same thing. A little less talk and a lot more action. Everybody get off your ass and lets make things happen. I keep waiting for this 90 million firearms march to Washington to take these basterds at gunpoint. I can’t do it alone.
American Dummy Reply:
April 16th, 2009 at 10:17 am
We are opening the eyes of the world as this is a battle for the mind of humanity.Lose that and you will have lost the last battle.We are everywhere whispering in the ears of people maybe even your friends,neighbors and even enemies.
Mars,are you a government man,be careful cause this stuff will f--- up your mind and your controllers won’t like that.
BDowd Reply:
April 16th, 2009 at 1:19 pm
Yeah, ok that’s great. Lets open their eyes. That’s the first part. Now we all have to get off our asses to make this happen. Just telling people about it isn’t going to solve it. It’s good to be informed but now we must take action. If all we do is tell, tell, and tell then we are going to lose this last battle.
April 16th, 2009 at 6:19 am
It is time for Mad Dogs & Englishmen to make themselves known ~
templi beholder Reply:
April 16th, 2009 at 7:14 am
fe fi fo fum……
April 16th, 2009 at 6:39 am
Well done whoever filmed that video
April 16th, 2009 at 7:11 am
How does Paul Joseph Watson research these stories without ever leaving his computer chair?
Oh that’s right, Google and YouTube.
The internet is nothing more than the new television, brainwashing millions, including truthers, turning them into zombie sheep.
Jae Reply:
April 16th, 2009 at 8:19 am
The fact of the matter is, most of the articles posted on prison planet are warnings of what is to come, and most of the times, it is proven in real life after a few years or even months later – perfect example: this economy mess was a big issue on prison planet years ago.
“Real Life Is The Truth – Whoever Doubts That Is A Zombie”
rt45q Reply:
April 16th, 2009 at 8:42 am
You mean the econony is cycling again like it always does. Alex Jones and PrisonPlanet predicting a bad economic cycle is like predicting a bad thunderstorm. It happens eventually, it is unavoidable.
jash Reply:
April 16th, 2009 at 9:19 am
goodpoint. I’m thinking of jacking this glorified wiretap and my phone an going back to lettersand public phoneboxes, and generally being on time! A backlash against technology would be good. Information technology anyway.
April 16th, 2009 at 7:12 am
UK citizens who don’t like this happening please sign the petition I started back in February after PrisonPlanet predicted this would happen – by clicking on my name above or going to this URL.
http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/filmpolice/
April 16th, 2009 at 7:20 am
I wonder what the police report for that day will say. Their version I’m sure will be quite different that what is here.
Ordinary journalists will all now get arrested for stupid reasons, right?
So basically, if the police don’t like you for any reason they make up, they have the authority to arrest you. And what about all of these cameras? Who pays for them? It must cost a ton of money.
I’ll bet you those camera feed directly into main core:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Core
April 16th, 2009 at 7:21 am
I think that was absolutely ridiculous!
First off- why were those police officers speaking to that teenager with the bike?
Secondly- how weak and uneducated were those police officers?
and Thirdly- why was that person video-taping them? To me, it looks like you’re looking for a fight. It’s people like that which give these corrupt people their stupid ideas for laws.
mars Reply:
April 16th, 2009 at 7:31 am
“Thirdly- why was that person video-taping them?”
Here’s your answer:
62-year-old Malcolm Sleath, who is chairman of his local park society, saw a police car driving erratically down a North London park footpath, despite the fact that by law police are supposed to investigate on foot in such circumstances.
He began filming the police car to document the misconduct so that he could later present it to the chief sergeant.
Can’t you read or do you just read the headlines?
Trev Reply:
April 16th, 2009 at 8:03 am
A load of cobblers. A pointless video – if anything, the police were getting hassled by a Brummie with nothing better to do.
April 16th, 2009 at 7:50 am
I’m hoping the American truthers do riot/revolt. Then they will see how much the real American patriots are against them. It’s time to thin out the truther herd of stupidity. They will be shown the Second Amendment first hand. Of course, it’ll never happen. They’ll cling to their computer chairs and keyboards and be internet commandos their whole life, while working for corporate America, buying corporate America’s products and services and giving a portion of their meager income, via taxes, to the evil murderous U.S. Government.
art Reply:
April 16th, 2009 at 8:47 am
It takes one to know one.
5785 Reply:
April 16th, 2009 at 9:04 am
art is not not a faggot.
April 16th, 2009 at 7:52 am
The next step is to register cameras. Then to license photographers. Then define journalist and license them also. Remember I said this. You British brothers better draw the line.
April 16th, 2009 at 8:07 am
This is funny……. I went through a similar situation here in New York City A Few Years Ago. While walking down a busy 125th street in Harlem, NY, a cop singled me out, approached me and asked if he could search my gym bag. I informed him that the only way he would be able to search my gym bag, is if he would take me to the police station. He refused, and said, he was ordered to do random searches. I asked him what the article number was for this law, and he couldn’t answer. He then told me, I could decline the search, so I did and was on my way.
“Know Your Rights and Study The Law People”
April 16th, 2009 at 8:55 am
Alex
We need more than ever your help.
In the UK things are getting out of control.
Ian Tomlinson died after a brutal attack by the met police. Then a day later when people gathered at the place of his murder to protest the following happened
April 16th, 2009 at 9:00 am
look it up on you tube
i posted the video as part of the message but looks like videos are disabled from messages so just look it up on you tube or read the articles and view the footage on ‘the guardian ‘ website.
B. C. Reply:
April 16th, 2009 at 9:35 am
Got it. Thanks. It would seem to me that the intentional starving and dehydration of the protesters was bound to make tempers flare. Perhaps that is a test to see how long people can be contained before they turn violent? Problem is, it seems that the officers missed their lunches and got violent with the PEACEFUL ones first. Go figure.
B.
April 16th, 2009 at 9:05 am
Alex Jones caught on video shoving a dildo in has ass while Paul Joseph Watson gives him a blow job and Kurt Nimmo gives Paul Joseph Watson a blow job and Steve Watson gives Kurt Nimmo a blow job.
http://www.best-horror-movies.com/lovecracked.html
April 16th, 2009 at 9:13 am
Alex Jones addresses a group of truthers at a recent 9/11 event.
http://opposingdigits.com/images/sheepherder.jpg
April 16th, 2009 at 9:17 am
How could you not have the theme to the Partidge Family playing in your mind as you look at that police car in the photo above?
The story itself is just another example of the abuse of power that law enforcement has been practicing all over the world for years. Disgusting.
April 16th, 2009 at 9:22 am
New Labour Nazis (and I use the word ‘Nazi’ literally, not sarcastically) acting as New labour Nazis- where’s the story?
Tony “Hitler II” Blair introduced the “no filming the uniformed thugs” law for the same reason that the law has been used in every other totalitarian state in recent history. THE ISSUE OF CONVICTION IS A NON-ISSUE. The ability to detain, arrest, torture, intimidate, raid your home and permanently confiscate possessions (now including money and cars) on the back of such a charge ***IS*** the issue.
What obvious muslim in the UK would ever dare point a camera at these filthy, violent, uniformed New Labour Nazi goons, regardless of what crimes that goon was currently carrying out. EVERYONE KNOWS THAT EVEN IN A DECENT COUNTRY, THE POLICE ARE FILTHY PSYCHOPATHIC THUGS WHENEVER THEY THINK THEY ARE OPERATING IN A ‘DARK’ AND ‘HIDDEN’ PLACE. Blair has made every part of Britan, day and night, a safe haven for the worst criminality by the police imaginable.
So, the worst of the ‘bad apples’ become cocks of the walk, dishing out obscene levels of violence whenever they like. The become the pathfinders, shaping Blair’s new Gestapo in a hyper violent, hyper racist, hyper corrupt mould. Corruption breeds corruption. Violence breeds violence. All the really bad cop wants is power of arrest. Who cares if the bloody pulp that leaves the police station days later is convicted of anything?
Doing ANYTHING in the name of terrorism was already a serious offence in the UK, so the new law, in its precise form, was utterly redundant. If this is true, and it is, then even the dimmest of sheep can understand that the new law was all about giving Blair’s Gestapo the ability to brutally batter any that dared to point a camera at them. As if to highlight the fact, we had the sickening murder at the G20 protests by a masked Gestapo butcher, cheered on by his camera wielding colleagues of the FIT squad.
I should point out that, as amazing as it sounds, Blair hasn’t even properly got started on his new police-state laws, and has tens of thousands waiting to add to the thousand already activated through the New Labour Nazi controlled houses of parliament. However, Blair isn’t about making the UK a living hell for the sake of it, but a powerbase from which he can poison the planet in preparation for World War 3.
Birdig Reply:
April 16th, 2009 at 2:04 pm
Terrible information, vein. I will do what I can to spread the word.
April 16th, 2009 at 9:54 am
It’s about time these Damn Politicians and police better understand the People pay there damn wages all in all. People are seeing for one, and understanding they need to have a say in this world of Gov Take over any more. Europe or United States New world order is looking for a fight i believe they don’t want to see. The people may have felt the rath of your taxes But you haven’t even seen the wrath that people who have been down for so long finally take their last kick and start stomping back! Promise, when we get you down we won’t stop stomping your asses! This type of badgering by public officials is going to be stoppin g soon. People are waking up and there tired, and aggrevated beyond words. Treat people like you are, Globalists, then God and us believers will have our Wrath like this country never seen before. What my father and Grandfather sacrificed fighting for this country, and you Politicians want to take that way from us, You Best think how in Wars past how the AMERICAN always, seemed to fight back and won the battles because we have heart and you mess with the real Heart Of this Country, Then God Help each and every one of you! We have tradition and respect what our Fathers done for what we have today. You want to steal that away from us without a Fight, You best think many more times.. Twice, won’t be enough! 1/2 Of these Judges deserve to be shot at the wall for treasonist ways of giving in to corporate America because the judge is afraid to stand up against these Financial Molesters. They give in to them, because they won’t have a chance to make there seat in the Supreme Court dreams. Well, then Justice is no more than given to “The Highest Bidder” at a Public Auction! Time we make Public Servants, Lawyers, Judges, Policemen and women and Congressment state the Preable to the Constitution, as well of the 10 Commandments court systems have at there doors to the court houses in this country. Time you understand, Money can’t change us, But truth will! Truth to know your taking advantage of every American In this country as well as those in Europe. People are speaking up,Just wait till the military Men and women see and understand they have the RIGHT to disobey an order if it happens to go against our Constitutional Rights. Read People Learn and KNOW for yourself, your not going to fight there war if it means you put the Constitution of this country is at stake and threatened. this is OUR COUNTRY. Not just those in power. That day will come your going to have to prove your point. REGAIN your HONOR…and if needed tell them your not going to honor their orders, You HAVE THAT RIGHT Military Men and women. Read the constitution,and Learn what it says, and put them on the spot and question them and if need be disobey their Orders Due to goes AGAINST the American Constitution. Remember July 4th. What we celebrate every Year. But have we forgot what those fireworks were all about? Time to make a stand and stand for something today in this world, as well in this Country! Your Father gave it to you, respect it!
April 16th, 2009 at 9:59 am
Send your kids to law school folks..because laws are being used against us, not for us.
April 16th, 2009 at 10:10 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biud-3eghCo
Bottom line in all this mess is the Police have to go. By that I mean the abuse of power has reached such heights that they no longer serve a useful purpose. Traffic checkpoints in the middle of the day and proving that you will sit in line and process through the checkpoints is a further erosion of that the Bill of Rights intended.
For those who are on the Police force consider this: What you perform as “work” for your masters destroys society and is against the Constitution of the United States. I have personally witnessed police abuse and then realized that there is no accountability. Police are considered above the law when they shoot and murder unarmed people. That is the ultimate reason they want to cover thier evil up. What do the Police have to hide? EVERYTHING
April 16th, 2009 at 10:56 am
Take a look at the global plan. Deconstruction of the free world market, police states, military power exercised nationally. 500,000 caskets are waiting. My prediction is a small Nuke detonated in the mid-west would bring everyone to there knees begging the government to protect us as they declare martial law. Look at the blast radius statistics. for a 100 kiloton Bomb there would be approximately 550,00 to 1.5 million victims. Wake up America the NWO is pushing forward and unless we stop this now, global slavery is just a heartbeat away.
April 16th, 2009 at 11:15 am
the law was made for a reason – to enforce it
when they enable corrupt legislation don’t think that they wont use it, thats just stupid.
April 16th, 2009 at 12:25 pm
The Lexus police car is a nice touch. Here in the USSA, I, an ashamed government employee can’t purchase a light bulb in less than 10 years due to 70,000 layers of procurement regulations, but AIT gets billions without so much as a purchase request. Whew. The police in England don’t need the law anymore, their citizens are unarmed. Next step, do the same here in the USSA. Oh, by the way, for all of you emailers who like to “cuss” on line: would you please stick to expletives only? Thanks, Hal
April 16th, 2009 at 12:51 pm
If they weren’t cops…they’d be criminals.
April 16th, 2009 at 1:05 pm
You notice the Terrorism Act is quoted. That means they Operate inside a Democracy, whereas we the People are in a Republic, They (The Bankers) Are at WAR with the People and are taking over the Land, with Acts, which the people don’t need to to listen to at all.
An Act Has the Force of Law inside a Society, but it is NOT common Law. People need to learn to question the Police’s assumption that you are an employee of the Government. You the People are the Creditor of the Government. The creditors don’t take orders from the governemt they give them to the government.
http://www.winstonshroutsolutionsincommerce.com/
That guy is Numero-uno, for teaching on Commercial Redemption. That is the Law of international Commerce, and that trumps all other law, cos its all about the money.
Learn who you are, then realise the power you hold. Freedom is truely here, only for reading and absorbing new knowledge.
April 16th, 2009 at 1:08 pm
Be prepared cause you ain’t seen nothing yet.Food,guns,water,and resolve are necessary.
Nobody is gonna do anything until enough have lost hope in their government.And then all hell is gonna break loose.
April 16th, 2009 at 1:11 pm
Terrorists who take photos of police cars and police officers (our friendly guides) should be sent to prison immediately.
In Germany people are not allowed to take photos of our democratic police.
If you do you will have to pay a fine of 1000 pounds.
I think, that is correct.
We all must stand together and work together in our just fight against terrs.
April 16th, 2009 at 1:22 pm
Know Your (Lack Of) Rights:
(2000 & 2008 UK playbooks)
http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/ac.....80028_en_1
http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/ac.....00011_en_1
its now waaay too obvious that the standard Police rulebook goes out the window in favour of this s---e.
:0
April 16th, 2009 at 2:18 pm
I KNOW that the only way to eradicate the powers that be is to continue to speak and seek the truth. We have to KNOW that this must come to an end. I KNOW that something is going to happen that will expose all of the lies in such a way that they will no longer be able to cover up their deceptions. They will run with their tails tucked between their legs into the Darkness from where they came. There is no action for us to take. God will bless us with the right words to say to regain our power. God will use us to speak his Word. One day we will open our mouths and the Lord’s sword will shine through, smiting all that proliferate lies.
All we have to do is trust in God. You KNOW who the true God is, and it is not their God. They worship money, so let money save them when the Lord returns to empower His people.
April 16th, 2009 at 2:28 pm
“Alexandra
” said:-
“and Thirdly- why was that person video-taping them? To me, it looks like you’re looking for a fight. It’s people like that which give these corrupt people their stupid ideas for laws.”
I suppose T.H.E.Y. have millions of cctv’s filming us because they are looking for a fight?
T.H.E.Y. don’t need anyone giving them ideas for their stupid so-called “laws”. All T.H.E.Y. need is more people like you Alexandra, and less people like the man who filmed those cops. So T.H.E.Y. can keep getting away with it.
April 16th, 2009 at 2:30 pm
It just makes me think what it’s going to get like when England reaches absolute rock bottom. On the one hand you’ll have the civilian criminal element who have always relished the day when complete anarchy reigns, and on the other you’ll have a police force that is to be feared, loathed and altogether avoided for having the same mindset.
In the middle you’ve got the average Joe, with a wife and 4 kids to feed, no power, no gas, no food and nobody to help him but himself..no means of communication and nothing which to defend himself and his family from the savages.
It was the stuff of fiction, and if you think this state of affairs can’t happen then consider how close you are to being on the bread line. Consider just what a state this country this state really is in, with some analysts saying that Great Britain is to bear the very worst of the economic downturn. Many places in this country never even recovered from the last one, and these just happen to be largely council (aka state-controlled), areas with high unemployment. We’re close to anarchy alright, and the state knows it, only the state isn’t prepared to do anything but screw us even further.
If our elected leaders really cared about us they would have done something, I simply do not believe for one moment they didn’t see it coming.
Now I know most people are good. But we’re in dire straights and our media is being eaten away like a carcass succumbs to a pack of wolves. When we have no more freedoms and no means or method of climbing out this mess, we’ll realise just what we gave up..it will be hell on earth and it will be every man for himself. Even abroad our leaders are giving us a terrible name and they know it..starting economic wars, protecting the arms dealers..the trade routes..THEIR trade routes. We’re being screwed left, right and centre and I just want to let you guys over their know this: the English didn’t want this, we don’t condone what’s happening and if you look at our history you’ll see we do take a lot of pushing..but when we’re pushed too far well, all I’ll say is read those books. Maybe it’ll take something like that to bring about a positive change – I hope it won’t – I hope it can be resolved peacefully but with the world getting smaller every single day and our rights and freedoms being torn to shreds, the writing’s on the wall..
April 16th, 2009 at 3:12 pm
Hans the German, you make it sound like every filming the police is guilty by association, i.e. that anyone filming the police wishes to illicit some form of terrorism.
When you classify everyone as a criminal just for taking pictures or filming a police officer in a public place you are practically doing the terrorist’s job for them: you’re creating a society based on fear – not respect – and intimidation.
Is this the kin of society you want, where police officers can and do, stop you filming something and arrest you without “reasonable grounds”? It gives them to right to forfeit their obligation to within the law and it also gives them the right to stop anyone finding out.
Most people aren’t stupid. Most people realise that the police are human and are prone to make mistakes. Most people aren’t walking the streets of Great Britain, armed with video cameras waiting to pick up on anything and everything the police are doing, we simply don’t have the time or the interest. But you create this state of affairs and mark my words – people will. It shouldn’t have to be like that.
If you think it’s OK to forfeit your rights and your freedoms for the sake of the state then consider Germany’s history, especially during the 1930’s and the 40’s. And please also consider this – we’ve had terrorists in England before, including one’s from Ireland. Do you really think they’re going to walk around a street with a camera before they commit their disgusting, cowardly acts? They’ll simply find another way of doing them, and all these measures are doing is creating a state of paranoia, and that’s just what they seek. There’s already millions of CCTV camera’s in Great Britain, and unfortunately not enough of them point the other way. We value our freedoms much the same as our American friends across the pond values theirs, and we take great exception to arrogant people who think they can walk all over those freedoms and insult our intelligence by treating us like dirt. This is not the way to bring people together and make our streets safer, far from it.
April 16th, 2009 at 3:35 pm
‘Liberty’ is lost like a bald man loses his hair, strand by strand! Society has a terminal cancer, government have opted for ‘radiation therapy’…now watch the hair (Liberties) fall out!…in great clumps!
April 16th, 2009 at 3:55 pm
Very amusing the little bitch fights that break out on here. My dickbrain is bigger that your dickbrain! If you are not in the inner circle, and I don’t believe Alex is, your like a mushroom, kept in the dark and fed a bunch of s---. Instead of spending much time on here reading propaganda wannabe revolutionary garbage, your time might be better spent in your garden or at the firing range.
William Reply:
April 17th, 2009 at 12:33 am
Lone Wolf, I’m glad you find it amusing. Oh, and for your information, most of the facts you read here are based on what the authorities say, and do. Instead of shooting the messenger I suggest you use your greatest weapon – your brain – and focus on the actual message.
I’d also recommend studying the very recent changes to the Regulation of Investigatory Powers (RIPA) Act, and it’s impact that could have on our privacy.
It’s up to each and everyone of us to either take or leave the information here, on this site – nobody is forcing you to come here (especially if you consider it such a waste of your time), and many of us do go away and do further research of our own. It’s no joke for many of us I can assure you. Where do you get your information, your ideas and your feedback – the British media at large? If that is the case then I wish you the best of look discussing the issues raised here in a fair, open manner. Yes you’ll get the odd crank mouthing off, but that doesn’t mean to say all of us are cranks – don’t let yourself down by trying to demean us with silly insults.
April 16th, 2009 at 4:48 pm
I DO AGREE THE FIRING RANGE IS LOOKING MORE IMPORTANT EVERY DAY.BUT THERE IS A LOT OF TRUTH HERE,NEVER BUY INTO ONE WORD,CHECK FACTS.I DO THINK PEOPLE SHOULD BE BUYING AMMO,A HUGE TAX INCREASE IS SOON TO COME.PROTECT YOURSELF WITH KNOWLEDGE,THEN ACTION.
April 16th, 2009 at 5:24 pm
Has anyone ever seen the Movie, “Rules Of Engagement”? It’s about a Marine Colonel who while taking fire ,helping an Embassy politician and his family out of Yemen after Demonstrations and attacks on the Embassy was court Martial for opening fire on a crowd of people after, and only after, People in the crowd below as well as receiving fire from snipers. the ONLY tape that proved his innocence was destroyed by Secretary of State,because he didn’t want the political retractment from other country’s, so he left the Marian out to dry,to take the blame, when he ONLY was following Rules of engagement every Marine understands. This Tape was his Only PROOF his orders were Justifiable. To Not allow the Public to tape things in their own country, is ONLY covering up Truths what is happening . They want to hang all of us out to dry, by NOT allowing us to tape truth as its happening because the NEWS doesn’t report truth any longer. Infowars and Prison Planet does! Yet, there being made Public asses because the real truths are uncovering up what is really happening. Those who are after our right of speech, don’t want the real stroy’s told or maybe allow the people to judge for themselves. That’s a crime against all of Humanity. If you watch that Movie, Tell me you can’t feel the Marine accused, wasn’t HONORING what the Marine Code Stands for. There are those who want to others to take the Fall for there actions, Much like with 9/11 and there covering up the Truths, of what happened! There are many who have so much to loose, But we want Truth so those who Died because of 9/11 will finally have there Honor returned to them because the truth, and the Truth ONLY will set them Free! Can You all Hear those who died that day? Are you sure, Without a “Shadow of a Doubt” that this Government Under George Bush and Dick Cheney, were responsible for there Deaths? Those who did die, can’t speak for themselves. Only we can. These laws for us not to have means to show the truth, if it means it allows them to use Unnecessary force, and hide it because there was no lawful use of proof, then you can’t TRUST Those who are hiding Behind the law. That’s the important part of all of this. Time to make Justice an important part of our lives even if it means Making a President stand down or a word they don’t allow today, To Impeach them! Military men and women need to Know, and Know that law word for word, that if they stand down to an order they feel is UNCONSTITUTIONAL to American’s, It is their Duty, to do Just that! Time we make Police and Politicians to stand down in this country, because they are Not Upholding OUR Rights Under the Constitution of These United States. Free Speech helped the Push for New Reporters. It’s time they start reporting the news, And stand up for reporting the news as it happens,without fear of loosing there Jobs because there Corporation has “Interests” on who ever it is they maybe reporting on. Report the news as if you were That Marine who had to defend himself because he was only following the rules of engagement! Someone Left him out to dry, so another man or Department of the State didn’t look bad in the eyes of the world. Truth Will prevail Only if we Push for that Truth. I’d Rather stand for Truth, then be shot down to Hide the truth from coming out! It’s time we learn why “the Marine Code” is a Code we all could learn from here.
April 16th, 2009 at 6:00 pm
remember these same police who don’t want us to photograph them are adherents to the ‘nothing to hide, nothing to fear’ mantra, which is bulls---.
William Reply:
April 17th, 2009 at 12:44 am
You could equally argue that one has ‘nothing to fear’ by filming the police, since one has ‘nothing to hide’ by doing it..the same for filming a Federal Reserve building from within the confines of a War Memorial.
April 16th, 2009 at 9:35 pm
The U.S. is not immune to this kind of stuff. As the police are slowly given more power, they are simply convinced that it is just another tool to help them keep the country safe. Unfortunately, as in this case, it will always end in draconian oppression and outright tyranny. If you want to focus on what causes the problems in the U.S. and elsewhere, you should see http://www.subvertednation.net because it points directly to the core of the problem. No fancy foot work, just powerful expose of their plans, crimes, operations, and their true identity. You don’t want to miss your chance to figure out the WHO, do you?
April 17th, 2009 at 4:15 am
Section 44 of Her Majesties Terrorism Act say’s (albeit in different words).
I am a Pig. Licensed by Her Majesty The Queen to treat you like s---.
And there is F**k All you can do about.
http://www.sxolsout.110mb.com/twarn.html
opens best in Explorer
April 17th, 2009 at 5:36 am
Tony Blair cutting back door deals for a new President of the EU post! Sign PETITION here! http://www.thegrandawakening.com/index.html
April 21st, 2009 at 2:08 am
First off…love that accent…Those two looked like they were still wet behind the ears…perhaps still in school.
That is happening now in the U.S. I was driving down a street with my daughter in the car and the police had a utility truck pulled over (this was late at night) and the police were all dressed in SWAT gear. So I slowed down and then stopped (not obstructing traffic) and watched them doing their illegal thing. They had the truck driver out of the truck and were putting him in hand cuffs.
When I stopped to observe them, they got ALL BENT OUT OF SHAPE..waving me to leave, shining their spotlights on my car and license plate. After a few minutes, I left and went home which was about 3 blocks.
My daughter said she wanted to go back. This was approximately 5 minutes. We took the back way back over there and one of the streets are located such that we could have seen the truck if it was being towed. The truck was there still.
We got to our look out spot and that is like 2 blocks away which maybe takes a minute and the whole scene was GONE!! I know those police illegally drove the truck instead of calling the hook. I think the police know me and what I am about and they never seem to bother me but I definitely enjoy getting up close and personal with them.
They are all corrupt.