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  • Mayer: Top DOJ Lawyers Spoke ‘In Codes’ For Fear Of Being Wiretapped By White House ‘Lunatics’

    Think Progress
    Sunday, July 28, 2008

    Last night on PBS, Bill Moyers interviewed investigative journalist Jane Mayer and mentioned that in Mayer’s new book, she notes that FBI agents refused to participate in the CIA’s interrogation of terror suspects at Guantánamo Bay because they determined it to be “borderline torture.” Moyers then asked, “Who were some of the other conservative heroes, as you call them, in your book?”

    Mayer remembered one top Justice Department lawyer and “very conservative member of this administration” who said that after participating in White House meetings authorizing torture, he believed that “lunatics had taken over the country.”

    Mayer said two other top DOJ lawyers had to develop a system of speaking codes because they feared they were being wiretapped while others described an “atmosphere of intimidation,” mainly from Vice President Dick Cheney:

    MAYER: There was such an atmosphere of intimidation. … They felt so endangered in some ways that, at one point, two of the top lawyers from the Justice Department developed this system of talking in codes to each other because they thought they might be being wiretapped…by their own government. They felt like they might be kind of weirdly in physical danger. They were actually scared to stand up to Vice President Cheney.

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    Mayer later said that “there is a paper trail” documenting U.S. torture policies “that goes right to the top of our govenment” and that Congress “is beginning to” get to the truth and “piece it together.”

    Mayer added that the truth to the White House policies is “a humungous jigsaw puzzle” because “there are many, many secrets we still don’t know. There are legal memos that nobody’s ever seen.”

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    16 Responses to “Mayer: Top DOJ Lawyers Spoke ‘In Codes’ For Fear Of Being Wiretapped By White House ‘Lunatics’”

    1. Publius Says:

      Any historical figures come to mind when looking at Cheyney? I think Cheney is a modern-day Rasputin figure: perhaps sexually deviant, certainly exerting hegemony over weak-willed formal rulers, and maybe insane as well, or at least possessed of a bizarre certitude.

      But then again, that would make Bush the Tzar. On this one, I think I’ll join the Sheeple and and embrace rigorously self-imposed ignorance. Can’t handle THAT much truth…..

    2. MARIA Says:

      Well of course the FBI did not want part of that, at least THEY are still somewhat for America, where as the scumsucking CIA are ALL foreigners, thay don’t give a crap about the U.S. They are owned and operated by the NWO.

    3. Mandy Says:

      Document[ed] U.S. torture policies “that goes right to the top of our govenment”.

      Well THAT’s impeachable. Right?

    4. Steve Williams Says:

      Borderline? There isn’t anything borderline about it. It’s been blatant, sadistic torture. Evil sickos being evil sickos.

    5. robertsgt40 Says:

      FYI-The FBI only has jurisdiction inside the US. The CIA has no legal jurisdiction inside the US. The CIA regularly operates inside the US. The FBI regularly operates outside the US. What a coincidence.

    6. Sheryl Saurette Says:

      Cheney and his personal sexual preferences were described exhaustively a decade ago in the classic book “Tranceformation of America” by Kathy O’Brien & Mark Phillips. Do a Google search. Deviant? That’s putting it mildly. Some people commit torture as part of foreplay.

    7. Ear Bleeders Says:

      Since the CIA was heavily involved in the cocaine drops when Clinton was working Arkansas and basically re-defined kidnapping techniques, all of which can be learned if people read a few books by former CIA agents. America is now a Nazi state.

    8. WakeUp Says:

      Bravo, Publius. Outstanding analogy.

    9. Quantum Disruptor Says:

      America wants to make Iraq and Iran into it’s own image?
      That’s like an illegal drug running mafia Don electing himself president of the Food&Drug Board.
      America’s streets are death traps, neignborhood crime is ever on the increase, your prisons are running out of room. You are the rape, murder, drug abuse capital of the world and you think that just because you’re the lessor of two evils gives you the right?
      To hell with your freedom fries childish brains.

      Even your morals are on the downswing and church leaders preaching how to make more money and have replaced the bible with accounting books.

      America, to hell with you and your French Lady liberty lucifer and eternal flame of hell.

    10. HiFly Says:

      Americans who believe in the Constitution must now speak in code for fear those who swore to uphold the Constitution are actually criminals flaunting the fact they feel they can make any laws needed to cover thier tracks. Even when you cover up your tracks, someone somewhere is aware of the War Crimes the Bush Administration has openly declared to be legal and know it is shakey ground they stand on.

    11. 5-Pillar Scribe Says:

      The makers of our Constitution conferred, as against the Government, the right to be let alone–the most comprehensive of rights and the right most valued by civilized men. Louis D. Brandeis

      5pillar.wordpress.com

    12. Luath Says:

      First off, Publius, you are a coward. You know whats going on, or, think you do, and then you want to “join the sheeple and embrace self imposed ignorance because you can’t handle that much truth” We would be better off without your kind. During the uprising, you will be the first to rat someone out for a morsel of food, or snitch on your neighbor, because you just can’t handle it. You are a liability. Man up, and grow a pair!
      As to the subject matter, It wasn’t to long ago that we were the ones pointing the fingers at Russia and elsewhere for their “stupidity” in not seeing the warning signs, and now its our turn, and we have become blind. Because we “just can’t handle it” We deserve to become slaves, then.

    13. 5-Pillar Scribe Says:

      The makers of our Constitution conferred, as against the Government, the right to be let alone–the most comprehensive of rights and the right most valued by civilized men. – Louis D. Brandeis,

    14. PurplePassion4U Says:

      Is everyone crazy in America?Are you asleep?The Texas Mafia has taken over the peoples White House illegally & using it to to their bidding.Conflict of Interest.Treason.Corporate Oil men that want to be MACHO(neither of them put their asses on the line in NAM) so they use the military to implode the Twin Towers & 7 to protect their asses,to start a war with Iraq to get over there where the oil is & oh by the way, pick up a trophy for his dad,death of Sadam with 2 brothers on the side.Ignore all laws on torture,plus have secret meetings & are above the law.Unbelievable.And we wondered if Kennedy being a Catholic was Conflict Of Interest.This gang should be arrested under their own laws of Terrorists,cuffed,tried in International Tribunal of War Crimes stipped of all their assets & money & hung.The House needs to be cleaned out.Congress & Senate Corrupt.The Military was used as a distraction for the Corporates to go shopping for their business locations.Naughty Boys.A COUP is in order here. Don’t start without me.

    15. PurplePassion4U Says:

      The FBI turned their back,didn’t want to get involved with these wrong doers.WTF ! They are the FBI.They are to arrest these law breakers.See our government bought into the Trendy Downsizing to cut jobs in several departments to save money & when they got to the CIA & FBI these guys had to show that they should not be cut.That they were needed.So……9/11 was the Collateral Damage Timothy McVeigh told us about.That our gov.does all the time. DITTO! To bad the CIA & FBI got missed in all that Trendy Downsizing.Guess they showed us that they were needed.Had to rethink this & add more jobs,minus Tenet & O’Neil the one Tenet set up for a fall.What goes around…………..

    16. Brian Says:

      I’d leave a longer message, but I’m afraid that my code may not be cryptic enough.


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