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McCain warns Russians of “severe, long-term negative consequences”
Jonathan Martin
Politico
Monday, August 11, 2008
Hoping to further burnish his commander-in-chief credentials while his rival is on vacation and the president is abroad, John McCain appeared before cameras this morning to offer a lengthy primer on the crisis in the Caucasus, explain why it matters to America and outline steps that he thinks the U.S. and West should take to halt the violence.
McCain, speaking in Erie, Pennsylvania, before a bus trip of the state, also used the opportunity to send a warning shot to the Russians.
“Russian President Medvedev and Prime Minister Putin must understand the severe, long-term negative consequences that their government’s actions will have for Russia’s relationship with the U.S. and Europe,” McCain said.
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And, describing the Russian assaults that have gone beyond the disputed territory and into sovereign Georgia as “Moscow’s path of violent aggression,” the GOP nominee suggested that Putin’s aim may be to overthrow the pro-U.S. government in Georgia.
“This should be unacceptable to all the democratic countries of the world, and should draw us together in universal condemnation of Russian aggression,” McCain said.
The harder line toward the Kremlin comes as President Bush and, even more, Vice-President Cheney similarly ratchet up their criticism and as key neoconservative thinkers and McCain allies Robert Kagan and Bill Kristol take to the op-ed pages to urge action.
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August 11th, 2008 at 9:54 am
Well if anyone should be speaking of the “severe, long-term negative consequences”, it would be the people at the top of our government, no? Who to know better the negative consequences of foreign policy (Blow-back) then our hapless leaders?
If only we could learn these lessons as well.
August 11th, 2008 at 10:12 am
Hey John McCain – SHUT THE FUCK UP!
You gotdamn hypocrit!
August 11th, 2008 at 10:22 am
I don’t think that we can ask for more proof for neocon Schizophreny.
August 11th, 2008 at 10:34 am
Fuckin war mongers with their stiff-dick threats. McCain should shut the fuck up. The US government is in absolutely no position to pointing fingers at anyone. He’s not even in the pres. throne and already sword rattling. Fucking blood lust, military/industrial whores
August 11th, 2008 at 11:22 am
Down with U.S.A. , up with Russia.
August 11th, 2008 at 12:07 pm
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August 11th, 2008 at 12:18 pm
the bush administration.has once again participated in what will surely turn out.. as the biggest treachery theyve completed to date. not only has undisputed evidence surface that the cia supplied money, training and arms to the georgian military for years prior to the conflict..and now it surfaces that this was all done in HOPES of georgia losing the ground fight giving the go ahead for an inevitable step-in of u.s. or nato ( soon to be united states of euro-trash i might add)forces to once again defend and uphold slave-ocracy within the world. bottom line we wernt lied to this time weve simply been BETRAYED and who will do anything about it ! RUSSIA THATS WHO and weve seen the results of russias help, so i ask isnt allllll of this every responsible freedom loving americans fault? we didnt care enough and now its too late, the political backlash of these events will ripple throughout the world and we will feel it for years to come.
August 11th, 2008 at 12:45 pm
How and why NATO was formed…….
Introduction
The Cold War “containment” notion was born of the Domino Theory, which held that if one country fell under communist influence or control, its neighboring countries would soon follow. Containment was the cornerstone of the Truman Doctrine as defined by a Truman speech on March 12, 1947. The Truman Doctrine, the Marshall Plan, NATO and the United Nations then became the foundation of American foreign policy through the Reagan administration and beyond, for about 50 years.
http://www.u-s-history.com/pages/h1965.html
Winston Churchill on it………Winston Churchill criticizes John Foster Dulles domino theory, May 11, 1953
http://www.brainyhistory.com/e.....14547.html
August 11th, 2008 at 12:50 pm
you said it JD. if they stir the shit pot any harder they just might get some on themselves.
August 11th, 2008 at 1:31 pm
McInsane, you demented fossil, what should be unacceptable to all the democratic countries of the world, and should draw us together in universal condemnation is that man of sin, father of lies and torturing, murdering war criminal in the White house.
Invade Iraq based on proven lies = bringing democracy and freedom.
Rescue civilians against US supported Georgian aggression and genocide = path of violent aggression.
Colossal hypocrisy is a word that comes to mind.
August 11th, 2008 at 1:47 pm
I agree with the above posts: McCain should shut the hell up. The US and its corrupt government are the biggest threat to the world right now and it’s not even debatable. We’ve invaded two countries and are ready to invade a third.
It’s time that the American people start giving a shit before it’s too late. I know that will never happen as long as they watch Cnn and Fox and their bullshit propagandas.
Ron Paul has been the only politician that said that we should get our noses out of everyone’s asses and start minding our own bleepin’ business.
August 11th, 2008 at 2:04 pm
Never, ever, watch the “perception managers” at any of the main stream media (MSM). They all lie as they are told to lie. Better to not watch any local/national news organizations for your news coverage. International news is not trustworthy but is better than our own. Do your own research on the net but be careful what you believe.
August 11th, 2008 at 2:16 pm
Beagle : Just wanted to say Great Post . great comments .
August 11th, 2008 at 2:23 pm
Wish it was that easy beagle. There are plenty of people who don’t watch CNN Fox or any TV for that matter. I believe many people give a shit, but it’s already too late.
“It’s too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards,” Claire Wolfe.>>>> Or is it?
How do we fix it? Vote? For who? Protest? Why? So you can be ignored? Try to organize any armed group, with big brother listening to everything, and you’ll be branded a terrorits. End up in a third world jail with a black bag over your head and a cattle prod up your ass. It’s not just the politicians, government, police and military. It’s our neighbors who live fat off of working for the Ratheons, and BAEs and all the other military/industrial whores. See what happens when you walk up to a fat, greedy, gluttonous, yuppy asshole working for one of these companies and ask or tell them to pry their faces off the tit, loose everything they own so they can fight a new revolution? I would do it in a heartbeat if it meant anything, but it won’t. if there were thousands of people willing we might have a chance. No one want to loose the safety of their fake freedom or their blissfully numb minds. Try reading this
101 Things To Do ‘Til The Revolution by Claire Wolfe …
August 11th, 2008 at 2:34 pm
I don’t disagree with you though. You’re right on. I was a reporter for newspaper early in the pres race. They wouldn’t even cover Ron Paul, but every time Hillary or McCain farted they wanted us to go kiss their asses. I refused to cover either of them, had better things to write about, send someone else. I eventually, at a certain cost to my career, told them to go fuck themselves and their fake democracy coverage. Been out of work since. God Bless America?
August 11th, 2008 at 2:40 pm
This media takeover by our government, is a mean machine, especially since everyones brain is already trained by their remotes, they all have a 9/11 gag order even though most of them have their doubts too, sad how integrity goes to hell for tha luv of money!!!
August 11th, 2008 at 2:49 pm
JD…Hope you find work soon. As for Americans, I think most Americans are pretty ignorant about what’s really happening in this world. Most times, it’s because they feel they are just a small fish in this big pond and nothing they say/do can make a difference. So what do they do? They do nothing except maybe vote every few years. What I do is spread the message. I tell people. I email people. I don’t have a large forum so I spread the message in my own little world. Don’t listen to the news. They have their own agendas and it’s not providing YOU or ME the whole truth.
One other thing I’ve suggested to my friends, families, and co-workers- ASK QUESTIONS. Always ask questions. Never believe in what you see and hear in the news. Ask questions, gather answers from different outlets, disseminate the answers and draw your own conclusions.
August 11th, 2008 at 3:09 pm
Absolutely! I do pretty much the same thing. I’ve had many engaging conversations with groups of friends, family and others about the same things. Foremost the application of critical thinking when reading or watching news. A lot of people ask me if I have anything “good” to say or anything “positive” to talk about. I say to them “take a serious look around you, your state, your country, your government and you tell me.” I also agree there too many ignorant and apathetic people. I used to be one. Funny how being broke and jobless is an eye opener. When you’re living high on the hog, the eyes are closed for many people. If they could be galvanized perhaps there will be a day when a Ron Paul or a Jesse Ventura could be a vialbe candidate for Pres. I believe it is our only chance to work within the system to affect any real change
August 11th, 2008 at 3:10 pm
John McCain is in no position to warn anyone about jack! The hypocrisy of this administration and of this congress would be laughable if it were a time to be laughing. Unfortunately,…IT AIN’T! The whole world is under neo con/zionist/fascist assault.
August 11th, 2008 at 4:13 pm
Will someone from the CFR or CIA tell Insane McSame to shut the fuck up!!! We sure don’t need no alzheimers frontman opening his pie hole.
August 11th, 2008 at 4:25 pm
WHO GIVES A FUCK WHAT MCCAIN THINKS….??????????????
August 11th, 2008 at 4:25 pm
The first thing that came to mind in regards or what McCain said is “Hypocrite”. He is nothing less than a hypocrite. It’s was fine for the U.S to invade Iraq, unjustly I might add, but it’s wrong for another country to defend itself (I do not support the attacking and killing of civilians) against and unproved attack. We are living in an age were the aggressor is viewed as the good guy and the victim as the enemy.
August 11th, 2008 at 4:32 pm
Once again the U.S. government sticks is nose where it’s not wanted and starts a shit rain.
U.S. foreign policy is of course run by NWO and their corporat benefactors.This explains nearly every intervention in the past 120 years.
This will be another sin the corrupt government in D.C.(District of Crimminals) has commited. This has been planned for some time by the neonazicons. Why else would the U.S get involved in Georgia? Of course it had everything to do with Russia since they want nothing to do with the NWO. That’s why Georgia was taken into NATO.
Enter S. Ossetia. A chance for these people to obtain independence from Georgian rule and form their own nation. Georgia reacts with violence and oppression. Russia is now drawn into the fray and now the recipe is complete for what may become a third world war.
We will all loose in this one. No one will be safe and everyone will suffer.
refer to the book by Chalmers Johnson(ex CIA) entitled “The Sins of Our Fathers”. After listening to him on an independent news channel, he explained how nearly every foreign intervention either failed or ultimately backfired. Our history is filled with such examples.
” Those who ignore the lessons of history are doomed to repeat it”.
For too long our government and the people of America have ignored these lessons. We will reap what we sow.
Good night and good luck
August 11th, 2008 at 4:33 pm
WHAT AN EMBARASSMENT TO SEE THE MAKEUP WEARING BOY FUCKING LIEING COWARD POLITICIANS REPRESENTING THE WEST AGAINST THE RUSSIANS…..DOES POUTIN LOOK AFRAID OF A TRUCK???? LET ALONE THAT CRAZY ARMED RICKETY OLD MAN MCCAIN?????
OR ANYONE ELSE FOR THAT MATTER???????
SHUT THE FUCK UP …/
THEY DO NOT REPRESENT US…..
WHAT HAS THE U.S BECOME????????? HONESTLY? IM SICK
August 11th, 2008 at 5:06 pm
mcnazi telling the russians not to beat up a small helpless country is like tommy chong telling kids not to smoke pot
August 11th, 2008 at 5:20 pm
McSwine, O’Bnai Brith, what’s the fucking difference? Neither of these melonheads are even remotely qualified to lick Medvedev’s or Putin’s boots.
Russia is the future guys, get used to it.
August 11th, 2008 at 5:23 pm
Why wasn’t the US concerned with Russian brutality during WW2 when they were “socializing” and brutalizing Romania?
August 11th, 2008 at 5:48 pm
Uncle Joe
Roosevelt was convinced that he could handle “Uncle Joe” — a name given to Stalin by American wartime propaganda — and gain whatever concessions he …
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Joseph Stalin Quotes
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Photo from the Yalta Conference: Churchill, Roosevelt and Stalin
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August 11th, 2008 at 5:49 pm
Translation: Be prepared to feel more pain.
August 11th, 2008 at 6:29 pm
McNuts can say what he wants since we still have a first admendment but we can and should say to this warmongering thug and the thugs that support him SHUT THE F UP!!!!! Unless this thug McNuts and the thugs that support him are willing to go to Georgia and die for that little troublemaker president of Georgia, then they just need to shut the hell up.
Its amazing the hypocracy of these pyschopaths in DC. The DC establishment (repubs/dems)bashes China for spying on guests emails and phone calls during the olympics while they applaud our government for spying on U.S. citizens emails and phone calls. The DC establishment goes ballistic over Russia’s actions when they themselves have committed serious war crimes against Iraq, using disproportionate force against the Iraqis and serious war crimes commited against Serbia for exactly what Georgia is trying to do to South Ossetia. The hypocracy can go on and on and on. Bottom Line we need to seriuosly remove these traitors (repubs/dems) from office before they do us all in with there hubris and depravity. Sorry for the misspelling if any.
August 11th, 2008 at 9:59 pm
To the champ…And I wasn’t exrtremely happy where my lifes been lately anyway. I;ll show up for a good cause. This is one of em. Only problem is no one knows where to meet, And noone knows who to trust, and no one knows whos watching..therefore Until that can be figured out for a collective march,,,???
I’ll listen for suggestions…. I do keep talking to more people to try to awaken. small comunities ya know. I think that’s whats refered to as splinter cells..
I’d much rather have it not get to that point though. But maybe thats the dreamer in me.
You also know that Martial law has taken place in Arkansas?
It’s been creeping for awhile, it has. Burglary is the excuse.
Funny I don’t recall hearing about it in the regular news either. Like the Armada heading to Iran. And it’s all so fucky behind your back shit! And when their caught they just decry divine right not to be questioned in any way. Friggin disgusting.
August 11th, 2008 at 10:04 pm
Almost everyone here already knows Saakashvili’s connections to the US – having “studied” there etc. – well, here’s some more info one needs to know to understand what is happening as well as why it’s happening:
From http://www.larouchepac.com/new.....egime.html -
British and Soros Stooges in the Georgia Regime
Increase DecreaseAugust 11, 2008 (LPAC)–Ongoing research has thus far identificed the following British and Soros stooges in the current government of Georgia:
1) PRIME MINISTER: VLADIMER “LADO” GURGENIDZE
A British empire banker, citizen of the United Kingdom.
Born 1970, Tbilisi, Georgia. Beginning in 1997 he worked for the Anglo-Dutch giant bank ABN Amro, living in London 1998-2003. From 1997-1998 he directed the bank’s corporate finance operations in Russia and neighboring countries. Among the ABN AMRO conquests was its “twinning project” ensnaring the Bank of Georgia, which had been privatized in 1994-95. From 1998-2000 Grugenidze was ABN AMRO’s Director and Head of Mergers and Acquisitions in the Emerging European Markets.
After the 2003 Soros “Rose Revolution” he returned to Georgia and was chief executive (2004-2006) for the Bank of Georgia, in line with the joint UNDP-Soros structural/financial reorganization program for the country (”capacity-building”). Gurgenidze brought in a management team from ABN AMRO and other British-connected banks.
Gurgenidze was appointed Prime Minister and head of the government in November, 2007.
2) HEAD OF THE NATIONAL SECURITY COUNCIL: ALEXANDER LOMAIA
A longtime top executive of George Soros operations in Georgia, now overseeing the country’s military operations.
In 2003-2004, Lomaia was Executive Director of the Open Society Georgia Foundation (Soros Foundation). He “directed the foundation’s operational grant-making and administrative activities, and fulfillment of its annual overall budget of more than $2,500.000. Supervised the staff of up to 50 program, finance, and administrative employees.”
In 2003-2004, Lomaia was regional director for the former Soviet Union for the Open Society institute’s “Democracy Coalition Project”. He “facilitated NGO coalition-building in the newly independent countries of the former Soviet Union to promote an activist democratic reform agenda…. The project facilitated the creation of an international federation of the national coalitions which collectively pursued … democratic reforms on the international stage.”
3) CHAIRMAN, GEORGIA PARLIAMENT’S COMMITTEE FOR EUROINTEGRATION: DAVID DARCHIASHVILI
Former Executive Director, Open Society Georgia Foundation.
Darchiashvili has worked for the Soros-dominated NGO networks since 1992, primarily in the Caucasus Institute for Peace, Democracy and Development, a “partner institution” to the Soros Open Society Institute (among its achievements were publishing a Georgian translation of neoconservatve Francis Fukuyama’s ” “The End of the History and the Last Man”).
Darchiashvili was executive director of the Open Society Georgia Foundation in the period (approximately) 2006-2007, apparently succeeding now-prime minister Gurgenidze as head of Soros operations in Georgia. In his present position he coordinates the Parliamentary institutions in Georgia with the British/Soros plans for the European Union, in conjunction with such channels as the Soros “European Council on Foreign Relations.”
August 12th, 2008 at 2:05 am
McCain warns Russians of “severe, long-term negative consequences” and will those be that Russia will stop selling us oil?? Oh wait that would be negative for US. Wow they have oil, money, military and POWER and are now doing all of the Iranian oil drilling. What is McCain going to do to the Russians give them a heart attack from all of the laughing?
We don’t even have anyone who is remotely “DIPLOMATIC” in Washington. Rice and Bush got rid of Carter and at least he could be diplomatic. I watched a press conference with Bush and Putin and I could see that Putin was restraining himself. Bush clearly offended him and had this look about him that he would see Bush regret that day.
August 12th, 2008 at 6:43 am
McCain is a old fool, ignorant and hypocrite man. Who gives a shit about that old man that has his feet close to his tomb. His 72 years old who gives a crap about him. Throw him down tha toilet I say.